Why I hate university life

Mar 09 2004

I was going to spend some time writing about why I so greatly dislike university life, but now I’m home I find my thoughts aren’t coherent enough to collect and put into words. Headache doesn’t help, nor lack of sleep.

2,121 responses so far

  1. but i love university life. ah well.

  2. I hate university life too!!!!,

    people who have never attended university always say its the best years of your life and that you make your friends for life there RUBBISH!!

    im in my second yr, still havent got a friend to my name (long story)

    and all i keep hearing is how its about the education, which it is. but with no friends and no happiness, ur not willing to learn a lot are you?!

  3. Yeah It sucks. I am so sick of learning. and people are so cocky and fake. But we have to do it, or else we’ll go nowhere in life.

  4. I’m a second year Chemical Engineering student in Israel. I’m 25. I don’t know if I don’t like university because the boring uncreative way they teach, or because my state of mined. I went to study chemical engineering because I thought I’d like it. But I’m far far away from creating interesting stuff.

  5. my potato is mashed. mashed to a pulp.

    unmash my potato, say you’ll fry them again. ungrill this steak you made.

  6. wtf, adi?

  7. I hate university so so so much. I’m in my 4th year and I can barely drag my ass to class. It’s so hard to go and sit there listening to my idiot professors. They’re so fucking stupid – I should be teaching them! The assignments are ridiculous, too. The whole thing is a total waste of time, but if I don’t go, I’ll be the loser who dropped out.

  8. You wound not be a loser at all. Its about time people realised that just because you have a BSc or BA makes you not better a person. Many students should look more deeply into life and all it can hold without studying a degree. I realised in my second year it wasnt for me, I thought it better to be happy than drag my sorry student ass to another lecture of no interest. And i passed that first year with all marks over 70%. Soical order is the only thing keeping many at University. Many want to leave, but the pure expectation of elders and UK sociery suggests that a person who did not go to University is a person of lesser intelligence.

  9. I must say I find it interesting that a short 3-line post I wrote over 2 years ago is still being actively discussed upon.

  10. i feel the same way..maybe we hate it because we leave work to the last minute (like i do)..its frustrating..exactly the way i feel as someone said ‘i’ll be considered the loser who dropped out’ . i thought university was where everyone’s mind opened up – evidently it isn’t. at the same time i dont want to work in some low-end job for the rest of my life, and university does help to get a lesser low end job , haha. worse, my university is like a 1.5 hrs trip from my house. pure crap. its all about regurgitation and memorizing bullshit. but i guess thats the only way to learn, right? hah. who knows. i feel like im heading nowhere with this stupid degree shit. 5 hour science labs ? i mean, come on, its just getting ridiculous. i personally want to be a musician, but external pressures force otherwise. in fact i’d rather be a religious leader or something. who knows. lets see how i feel after exams..i used your site to vent, i hope you didn’t mind. best of luck to all.

  11. FUCK UNIVERSITY!

  12. OOPS. pressed enter too soon. uni life is a piece of shit. 90% of the peoplei wouldnt piss on if they were on fire. they do nothing to help you with anything. sink or swim. the lecturers are mostly uninspiring, boring, or contemptuous of anyone who isn’t a swot. good lecturers are a sparse few. Uni is ruining my social life, my happiness, my sex life (i.e. dont have one), my money, my health, my creative output, MY FUCKING SOUL. and for what? so i can have apiece of paper which makes me accepted in society as not a stupid person? FUCK OFF! FUCK THE SYSTEM!

  13. how do we fuck the system?

    i hate university…iv only been there bout two months. i had it branded into me since i was little that i had to go good in school to get into university to get sumwhere in society. there has to b a different way. wtf is it?

  14. There are plenty of different ways, but university is probably the safest.

    A lot of the world’s richest men are university dropouts, btw.

  15. Disgruntled Student

    I currently attend a respectable university, and am in the top 5% of my class, but I have no fucking life.

    University has stolen my soul and my freedom, and every moment of every day I am just numb, as the only thoughts that run through my head are how to ace that next test, be it through studying or giving my professor serious head.

    I came to university to learn, to meet new and interesting people, and to grow as a person. NONE of these expecations have been met. Absolutely fucking-lutely none.

    FUCK U UNIVERSITY!

  16. i hate university. writing 4 reports on 4 things that i don’t fucking care about is fucking ridiculous. i hate university so much! i worked my fucking butt off to get into there thinking it was the light at the end of the tunnel. no one mentioned it was actually hell. you bastards.

  17. university is a fucking joke. i got a B.Sc. a couple years back and it has done me zero fucking good. I’m certainly no smarter for it. The true reason university exists today is that it is a fantastic tool for class stratification and social CONTROL. And by the way – i hate to break it to you – the tendency for society to dictate to the individual doesn’t end after school. If you want to be free in this life there is only one hope – lots of $$$$. How to get it? hmmmmmm….

  18. Our essay is due in tomorrow and between the two of us we have one page of copied/pasted internet stuff.

    Last year we both did a year of Illustration which was hellish, and however hard we worked and pulled our fingers out we just could not deliver. We are both talented and creative individuals and failed that first year. It was difficult because we were faced with many outside problems – relationships and independent living.

    So this year, we thought the light at the end of the tunnel would be Fine Art. Not so! We are halfway through and cannot face another two and a half years of school-like institutionalism.

    We really feel like the losers who are about to drop out.

  19. Oh! People I can identify with! OH I love you guys! I hate university (damned engineering!) and its killing me! i dont know when the last time i went to a lecture was! I get out of bed at lunch, or later… all i look forward to is dinner! I can feel my brain rotting and feel myself getting stupider every second. But i think i wouldnt mind if i was doing a BA. That would be cool…Mycreativity is dying. I used to think i was different, special, had great things to offer the world… now i can see i am worth nothing, as all those things have been killed

  20. OMG. i felt my brain rotting too. Creativity, happiness, idealism, gone. Cynicism, depression, here to stay. Walk the walk and talk the talk or fail your classes! that’s the name of the game. I wrote a poem about it.

    enjoy.

    Retrospective
    I went to university
    And when I was done
    I spent the next 12 months
    Trying to unlearn
    Everything they taught me
    Because those ivory towers
    Are not the place to be
    For people who Hope to
    Change their world for the better
    At least not if you’re taking Arts
    Because what they teach you
    Is not how to find the commonalities
    That exist between peoples or ideas
    But how to seek out the Differences.
    It was never about our world, our problems,
    Or collective solutions.
    It was about what’s yours and what’s mine
    and drawing boundaries.
    And it really was not about asking questions,
    Because if you asked the wrong question,
    It could be fatal, academically speaking.
    It was about who could walk the walk and talk the talk.
    I took a class where someone actually compared
    Gandhi to Hitler, concluding both were madmen
    And he got a round of applause for it.
    That was where the learning officially ended
    And when I had to shut the book on so-called
    “Higher Education”

  21. Uni work does suck, but if it was easy it wouldn’t be worth getting a degree and everyone would do it!

    If you have no friends at uni then you are in the minority, ever thought it may be your fault that you have no friends and not uni? If anything uni helps with all the clubs, interests etc you can join so make an effort!

  22. "I must say I find it interesting that a short 3-line post I wrote over 2 years ago is still being actively discussed upon."

    It’s because we’re all typing in the same search terms at Google: "I hate university".

    I just chose my courses for the fall (4th year CS), and I felt compelled to do a Google search to find others in a similar state of mind. =)

  23. Amazing, this page is the third result for that search term. Small wonder, then.

    Good luck with your degree; I just managed to finish mine (at last).

  24. woo i can join this club, i hate uni , its sunny outsideandimstuckin myroom because iv made no friends for thefirst time in my life and i cant sitin the lounge because half of my flat mates have been the evilist bastards iv ever met, i hate it , really wantto go home or just disapear. this sucks, wasting everyday looking at sites like this because im so bored and on my own arggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh

  25. hey all
    its nice to know that uni is making other people crazy 2 and not just me. I am so stressed right now I cant handle it and it never stops as soon as one assignment is done you have to start another arrghh

    anyone i just needed to vent

    ta

  26. oz uni-s suck 2

    australian unis r shit too. but it sounds to me like u guys all have a grudge against ppl who made friends. the only reason most of the ppl i no stay is 4 the social scene.i no ppl straight out of school.ppl with kids and ppl who are looking for a career change late in life but we all seem 2 get along ok. maybe u should try and make friends with ppl instead of looking of ways to getaround ur probs instead of through them. no1 said the work was going 2 b easy. what did u all expect? probs the ppl u dontlike r the 1′s who could help u out and make ur uni life betta by being a friend. go out side ur rom n talk 2 some1 in the hall. human interaction helps every1

  27. YES FUCK OFF UNIVERSITY!!! it feels SOOO good to be validated by all your comments.i have been in the system far too long. i joined a BA in Accounting and Finance and gave up 3.5 years into it, deciding NO i do NOT want to a bean fucking counter. Only to ace the entrance exam and get into law school, which i thought at the time before i started was ‘this is it.. i’ve found what i want to do’. Now 2 years later i’m flat on my ass again and realising that studying is not my thing! Does that make me any less intelligent? you try getting into law school! less hardworking? Yes, but why work hard at something you have no interest and cannot find the relevance for in your life?? I should be getting out, getting exposure, meeting people, finding opportunity and earning money and gaining experience, not stuck going to endless lectures and motivating myself to study month in month out when i know success is measured by tons of other ways besides a freakin degree…

    Which is why i’m dropping out, taking my real estate agent’s representative certificate and embarking on working life. MY WAY. FUCK UNI!!!!

  28. I too, despise uni. I am in my fifth week nearly and have made no friends. I sit in my room most nights just watching TV. All the people here are thick, arrogant cunts and all they care about is pulling and getting pissed. This is not my scene. I am a kind, good looking friendly guy but I CANNOT hack uni. Its depressing the hell out of me, I dont get on with my flatmates and I want out. Now.

  29. I started my first year in uni and in 5 weeks i have fucking found this place is sum mental institution,… this shitt is a real bitch.I agree university is ripping my soul appart..i have got many friends but i still feel the way many of you do.. and u have literally taken the words out my mouth ,,, Dont push me cos im close to the edge!!!!

  30. Eat a FAT Dick UNIVERSiTY… Waste of money and more importantly LIFE…I dont know why i started uni, but i am thinking it is because its the safest route to take.. like i said …… DIE SLOW UNIVERSITY, not now waite till I finish

  31. I am more on the line of hating University because of the way ‘students’ live their lives. I love my course as it’s performing arts so a lot of interaction with like-minded, ambitious people. What i cannot stand is the way students go about behaving. In my first 6 weeks at Uni I’ve had my windows smashed, threatened by drunk fucks, a guy OD on a nice drug cocktail and my bedroom door kicked in. Now if this is the behaviour of the country’s future lawyers, doctors and teachers, our society is facing a pretty dismal future.
    What fucks me off the most though, is that because of these braindead fuckwits I may end up leaving my course, there is no justice left in this world.

  32. i have been at uni 2 months now, i have made friends with a few people who arnt on my actual course because everyone on my course is a fucking imature prick who hasnt got a clue. I took a year out before coming to univeristy and got a taste of what goes on in the real world. I am a musician and made the stupid decision to take a degree in music. You cant fucking teach improvisation and creativity in writing music. I played with pro musicians in London in my time out from education and learnt so much by hanging out with people twice my age who have made a career from playing music and dont have degrees but are perfectly happy, interesting people with a story to tell. Since being at this shithole of a university i feel like i have been robbed of my creativity and my inspiration to play music. People on my course are uninspiring kids who have no musical talents nor had any life experiences that show in there music. They dont love the music, they go out to shitty clubs which are the very thing that is destroying the music they are supposed to be studying. These kids are coming from rich familys, fresh out of school, hoping to tick all the boxes and get the marks to please there dickhead parents. I believe the world is going to shit. How can it possibly survive with the next generation of university educated pricks? The lectures teaching at my university are proof that having the very degree they are teaching me gets you knowhere – why arnt they out making lots of money? because they are in £15,000 worth of debt owed to mr blair and for what? so they can stand at the front of a lecture room and read from a book?

  33. Well I’m glad at least other people feel the way I do. The most annoying thing about univeristy to me is how god damn disorganised the teaching seems to be. My department is 3rd best in the UK and still it takes forever to get our marks back,I’m convinced they scan read the papers and make the grades up. Worst of all there seems to be no correlation between how hard you study & the grades you get. I accept that if you do no work you will fail. But working your ass off can be awarded from anything from A to D grade. It seems a complete lottery to me. I cant wait to leave university.

  34. We have all been conditioned from the age of 4 to believe that the firther we go in education the firther we go in life. its supposed to become more inspiring, more empowering as we climb the academic ladder….Unfortunately, as with many of you, I worked my ass off with that dream in mind and Im finally here, at University, doing a very respected course…and it sucks. I hate it here, its costing me a huge amount of money to waste three years of my life in a place full of self-perpetutating self-congratulating bullshit. Unfortunately, if I drop out everyone will think Im a loser, and wonder why I fell at the ‘final hurdle’. If my degree is worth fuck all at the end of all this, Im buying a gun and shooting alot of people. There is so much more to life than this, there has to be.

  35. OMG YESSS. I’m in my second year of a four year Social Work Course. I HATE IT. For the first time in my life I have almost no more friends since we’ve all grown up to be different people who don’t click anymore. I’m from Canada so it can get pretty fucking cold here and trekking to school in 7 in the morning when its the middle of winter and is dark as hell to go to a class full to learn a degree I hate to get a job which I think I may or may not like is the most depressing thing in the world. I’m in the darkest place in my life right now and sometimes wonder how I still come off so cheerful and friendly. But anymore time in Uni and I think it just might sink me. I’m of an ethnic background and ‘need’ to make friends and boyfriends from my same cultural background but its hard as hell too try to connect with them since I grew up away from these people and am not 100% fluent in my naive tongue (which I’m still learning). I don’t feel Uni is something I want to spend more time on but I would get hell if I didn’t go through with it. “its a great degree – your lucky to have gotten into it” they all say, but I’m so fucking unhappy and I’m someone who is easily pleased. I’m not connecting at all with the people in my program and my program and uni in general – its getting in the way of the many personal issues I want to sort out. I am so confused on what to do and If I leave, where do I go and what do I do? I spend stress filled nights thinking and overthinking, I’ve never been unhappy until now and I know that everyday of life shouldn’t be wasted on shit that feeds on your very soul. FUCKING HELL!

  36. im a few weeks into my second year now and I’m facing quite a predicament. My first year was an odd one, very troubling at times – bouts of loneliness and reflection and all that. was gunna drop out after the first term but decided to stick at it for the bit of paper at the end. Towards the end of the year everything was buzzing, i was so happy and confident, the sun was shining so brightly. went on to have the best summer. Had a bit of a funny one towards the end of summer as second year impended, and its been going on ever since. found out recently that 2 of my essays failed to make the grade so now i have to do the first year over again. I live in a house quite far away from the student centre if u know wot i mean and have found myself slipping into quite a reclusive state, becoming distanced from even the closest of my friends, who seem to be getting on with things niceley. I’m quite ashamed of my failing first year and now i’m questioning whether or not i should stay and do it just for the sake of a degree. wot is even worse is that my course is a drama degree – last year i witnessed so much bitching and backstabbing. this still goes on amongst the class of second year, but they have toned it down slightly. to have to go back a year and go through all of this again is not an appealing thought.There are lots of things that i would like to do should i decide to drop out and go back home but i fear it would be way more depressing since home life stifles me even in short bouts during the holidays. i understand that university is about planning for ur future, but at the moment i just feel like im becoming a bit of a recluse, paranoid that noone really wants me around that much. i know this is just paranoia and perhaps in a few years i’ll look back on it and laugh.I just hope i wont be laughing from a cave somewhere in the alps. Right now though, i feel terrible. i slept until 6 today, missing 2 appointments i had.feel like im turning into a parody of myself. im not looking for sympathy, i know i could have got out of bed if i had tried, with nothing to do im losing motivation to see anyone or do anything. during the summer i felt amazing, now i go through pretty bad mood swings, one moment feeling fine, the next, crappy.

  37. im so pissed off. Been at this uni (liverpool) for what 6 weeks and bored shitless out of my mind. I hate it here, people are narrow minded and dont seem to have any depth. Theres too much fakeness and i havent madeone decent friend.. I am a sociable person and make friends easily but its absolute bollocks. Best time of your life!I feel like my heads being twisted and churned into common crap and everyones so into themselves they cant see whats around them. Now all i want to do is sleep. Is this it, is this the palce im going to spend the next 3 years of my life and is this how im going to feel. Fucking crap throughout. You dont need uni to go far in life i know that but life here is shit without friends.

  38. I hate uni, im in my 1st year at liverpool, ive got no money, i hate my course and the people here think they are somebody…Iv got like 1 person who i can really speak to here.Im usually confident and dead friendly,and thought id make loads of friends, but no i havent..i think is it me that they just dont like? I feel so depressed and i just wanna drop out, but thn ive got ppl wuestioning me on why i did, and th family wouldnt be happy…can life seriously get any worse? Another tihng is that i work too, and quite alot of ppl at uni dont but theyre still managing to go out and piss money up against a wall..its so frustrating :’(

  39. lol u frm liverpool 2…its shite, whre you stayin if u eva kum here again

  40. FUCK UNIVERSITY

    “Worst of all there seems to be no correlation between how hard you study & the grades you get. I accept that if you do no work you will fail. But working your ass off can be awarded from anything from A to D grade. It seems a complete lottery to me. I cant wait to leave university.”

    sOOO fucking true. I’m full of bitterness because of university. I’m filled with bottled up anger and stress. I swear, I am going to just blow up one day and my university will feel my wrath.

    University is seriously ruining me. It’s sucking the JOY out of my life. University is just a stupid, overly -competitive fucking shithole.

    It’s turning me into an emo, and possibly a suicide bomber :@ All I daydream about is blowing up the fucking building

  41. I hate people in university. they are fake, competitive, cold hearted bastards who do nothing but suck up to profs. grad students are the most pathetic people on earth. stay in school till I’m 30 and the only interaction I get is with the Help paperclip in Microsoft Word? FUCK THAT. UNIVERSITY IS HELL.

    Choose LIFE.
    Choose a job.
    Choose a starter home.
    Choose dental insurance, leisure wear and matching luggage.
    Choose YOUR future.

  42. the problem with university is that it looks for PARTICULAR type of people – people who actually love the misery of doing boring research and endless studying. if THIS isn’t you, you are going to have a very hard time in university. university makes you feel dumb and worthless. university makes you feel like you are never good enough for its standards. don’t blame youself. grades are just numbers. they don’t mean SHIT. they don’t define WHO you are and WHAT you are capable of.

  43. Liverpool Artist

    I’m fucking miserable and so close to throwing in the towel on not just Uni but the subject of study I use to be so passionately interested in.

    It’s second year of my course and we still have no freedom to create work we originally signed up hoping to create. The assignments, grading all exist to make the tutor’s lazy arsed jobs easier and to kill our spirit. I know exactly who are the true failures each time I enter that place and see their grinning faces.

    I feel I’m stuck here to the end and my grades are suffering through the hatred of the situation. I can’t approach these brief with positive thoughts no longer and it’s too difficult now to explain to parents and family that I want to quit. I’ve wasted more of my own time trying to pursue an artist career and thrown away their money.

    I’ve never felt so hopeless and cheated in my life. I wish the place burns down and theres a glitch with the banks accounts so I’m refunded as some compensation.

  44. I am so thankful for this website.

    I work so hard at this. I try more than anyone I used to know at highschool. I was a straight A student.

    Now I feel worthless. I’m working my hardest and it feels like I’m going nowhere. Like I’m not appreciated and never good enough. Like I’m just a number, another paper to mark.

    I’m not angry towards university, just sad. Sad that I can’t paint and be who I know I am. I signed up for this though. It’s the only option I have. I don’t want to be a failure in my family’s eyes or my own so I continue.

    Like all of you I’m drained.
    No friends, no energy, no modivation.
    None of me is left.

  45. howtokillcrapunis?

    Found via google also :)

    I feel cheated more than anything. I’ve learnt absolutely nothing as a result of being at uni. The lecturers say “Uni is about teaching yourself”. So why the fuck go to uni then? We pay however many 1000′s of

  46. sickoflearning

    I’m up to my 12th week of the first semester and looking forward to an evening of deciphering yet another poorly written and unexplained homework in for tomorrow. University has killed all my interest in what i thought was my passion in life. It seems to be totally geared up to a different kind of person, a different kind of person to 90% of the attendees there. Lecturers are arrogant and claim to want to ‘help you in anyway possible’, this seems mostly pointless when their initial teaching methods do very little to explain the material and the best teaching i get is from the few students who can actually understand whats going on. I’m so tired during the day from the previous day at uni (i have a few solid days of work rather than spread across the week) and the lectures are so dull that i often drift off completely and fall asleep. I totally agree that the ‘teach yourself’ attitude is complete bullshit when i’m paying them 3k to do that job. It annoys me when i can see a lot of the exercise material referenced from the internet (I’m doing a computing course), if i wanted to do an open university course id buy Java for dummies and sit down for 6 months and do one. Credit to my subject, my actual COURSE module is brilliant, but my necessary core modules are absolutely uninspiring and on the most part, badly taught. If i had no parents with hopes resting on me i would fucking kick the bucket with university in an instant.

  47. Wow, finally people that can understand how I feel about university. I am in my 3rd year of 4, and don’t think I can stand it any longer. I hate my course, even though I thought it was what I wanted to do as a career, I hate being away from home and from my family and REAL friends, and I hate always being overdrawn! I am currently 6 days from the end of another term, but feel so weak and lonely that I don’t even know if I can make it that far. God knows how I’ve even made it to here.

    I too did a Google search for I hate university – and what a fantastic site, full of like-minded people who understand what a pile of shit university really is. I don’t wanna be ‘one of those losers that dropped out’ either – but it’s looking increasingly appealing.

    My heart goes out to all of you feeling the same way as me – well, the parts of it that haven’t died, anyway.

  48. Yup, I’m not enjoying life at all. In my first year, only have a few friends. Everyone is on crack here, my flat is shit, my flatmates deserve to be firebombed in the face, everyone is so fake and I’m away from my REAL friends. What also pisses me off is that all my old friends seem to be having a much better time than me! :@

    If this place burned to the ground (empty of people of course, except my flatmates), I’d laugh and dance

  49. “It’s turning me into an emo and possibly a suicide bomber” this one made me laugh until I was crying. To think 4 years ago I use to be an ordinary human and then like so many others I enrolled into B.A. Over the years I became more and more pale and sickly, depressed, neurotic, reclusive, lost all my freinds and now I’m on my third fucking lot of anti-depressants, apparently SSRI’s are not sufficent to counter the utter despair that uni induces. The thing is I use to love literature, I use to write poetry, now anything containing words has been eclipsed in semiotics, deconstruction, psychoanalysis, structuralism, hermeneutics, pragmatics.. etc, even when I walk passed a billboard I start fucking deconstructing it, I can’t help it like many a longterm prisoner I’ve became institutionalized. And now that I’m finished my degree I screwed. I developed a kind of stockholm syndrome, I neeeed to go back to uni despite the fact that the very buidings, the students, the course books bring vomit to my lips. I’ve became autistic now, I can only hold a conversation with people who read Kant and Husserl, the ‘real’ world without mediation through theory, and long ponderous philosophizing is too jarring for me. And now the only thing left for me to do is to go back and do a postgrad and become… a lecturer. I mean university has reduced me to this I have no other option, I’ve became to weak and anemiac to work I can only turn pages. It’s pure perversity that inspires me onwards of course, the only thing that academics hate more then their students is other academics, and one imagines there is a fair degree of self-loathing too. If you want to see how despicable academia truly is get the inside view from this lecturer: http://www.kevinboone.com/university.htm

    my favourite quote is: “After nine years in the business I feel I can say quite categorically that lectures are mostly a waste of time for most students” a sentiment I’m sure all honest students will agree with.

  50. I typed in to google ‘I hate University’ and got this cool site! I am in my 12th week of Uni, the last week before the Christmas holidays, so I made it through one term nearly, but have been diagnosed as clinically depresssed, on my second lot of antidepressants, cry every day, have lost all passion I had for my subject Psychology and feel like I have very few friends to my name. All these people saying ‘join clubs, talk to people’ have no idea what they are talking about, seriously, if you are going to offer thay sort if shitty common sense repetitive advice, keep it to yourself. Ive made such a big effort to keep on top of work and have a great social life and have appeared to fail both. I live about an hour or so away and spend a lot of time and money going home as much as possible so as not to stay here in this lonely, hostile place. Next year I am commuting, definately, I don’t care how hard it may be, it can’t be as bad as this. Yeah, the being away from my family is the hardest part for me, I am close to them, and the fact I could be happy with them but have chucked that to be here kills me. I also hate the way we are taught, the fucking money snatching way Uni is run and the sheer ignorance of some of the people here. I actually thought I might not be smart enough to come here, how wrong I was…I wonder how some of these kids got in with their ridiculous attitude and childish ways. Lecturers are rude and patronising, assignments teach me nothing and I have lost interest in a subject I once loved. Yet..How can I drop out? I will dissapoint everyone, I will be the ‘one who dropped out’, the ‘one without a degree’ and also I will get to spend less time with my boyfriend as we are long distance and If I am working I won’t get the holidays to spend with him. University is a shithole and the government are all pricks. I was practically forced in to this by my school and I want out.

  51. Going to uni has made me loose everything. My friends, life and my mind. Now 2 years in if I quit ill loose my family as well. I’ve just finished a work placement for my dream job who informed me that as my uni has decreased my learning by removing staff they ‘can’t afford’ my degree will mean nothing. I suppose I’m looking for a miracle. I agree about those idiots who give useless ideas of join clubs, you either came to uni with a group of friends or you fit into society like oh so many fish that swim with the tide. For those who are franticly paddling to keep a float….I hope we don’t drown.

  52. I have also lost my freinds, life and mind and will be in the same position as you family wise if I drop out. I hate that people expect things of me. Why the hell should they, yeah so I did well in school, that doesnt mean they can choose my future for me. If Love really existed Universities wouldn’t! ‘Higher education’ in my mind is full of low lifes and anyone looking forward to uni should think again. I also have a massive problem with the whole ‘Oxford/Cambridge’ thing..seriously..don’t get me started on those bastards.

  53. arrrghhhhhh im so pissed off with uni too! i also did the google search! i have shit loads to hand in 2morro , i can’t be arsed i am doing an arts course and we have to do tons of writing it really fucks me ofF, all i want to do is the art side of it NOT ALL THIS WRITING RESEARCH FUCKING BULLSHIT WASTE OF TIME BOLLOX. im seriously thinking about dropping out i can’t handle it anymore either im in fourth year now ! i already have a bloody degree but it’s still not enough for everyone to get off my fucking back.
    all i want to do is travel and use what i have learned but do it in my own way but i feel pressured from everyone to do this. i have also lost my sanity and on anti -depressents, and what annoys me even more is that this university shite is ment to fucking open our options in life when all it does is give you a massive fucking loan you have to pay back , they have got us exactly where they want us THE BASTARDS!
    stuck in the system forever. i think the clever ones don’t go to university and when they get their good job they are not £20,000 in debt.

  54. Yeah the clever ones seriously are the ones who don’t go. I know someone who never went, she’s earning 30,000 a year in an advertising company, shes 25, married with a baby girl and happy as ever. Someone else is on 45,000, never went to uni just did a years course at college in something to do with offices. I am going to come out of this, still not be able to be a proffessional psychologist unless I do a 4th year! be god knows how much in debt and be back living with my parents, as I see it, back to square one, just with a lousy certificate saying I have a degree. Is this stress and illness really worth it? But if I don’t stay, what do I do? Dissapoint my parents, see my boyfriend less? There is no way out.

  55. what annoys me more is that they have these B.A. courses – and they are no use unless you actually do the four years instead of leaving it at the 3- why the fuck don’t they just make the degree the four years, instead of pushing it and making you still feel useless unless you do the whole thing. it’s pointless. i just spoke to my friend and she has given me a boost of at least trying to get something in 2morro, because the shitty thing is that if i don’t i will have a crap christmas with my parents calling me a failure and crap and that in a way would be even worse than just staying up all night frying the little bit of my brain thats left and handing in a piece of crap just to keep every cunt quiet!

  56. I wanna go back to my room and find a message in dry-erase pen on the door!
    I wish I could just drop a class…
    Or get into a play…
    Or change my major…
    Or fuck my T.A.

  57. Hey guys, there is now a place for you all to come and be free:

    http://www.university-sucks.tk

    Post your experiences, read others, decide what you want to do.

    Personally, I love my course (sort of) but the Uni itself ABSOLUTELY SUCKS. It has no facilities whatsoever, NO social clubs or societies (the main thing I was looking forward to), this just totally isn’t the best time of my life. 3 months here, and I have like 1 friend. And I’m not some nutjob hunchback kid, I’m just joe average. Sort of. I am seriously considering dropping out and coming back with a vengeance next year at a bigger university, but I may have already missed my chance since its already December. FUCK. Plus I would have to pay more fees, as they just went up here in the UK, which is great! FUCKING NOT! Anyway…

    http://www.university-sucks.tk

    Tell your friends (If you have any)!

  58. Higher education is a rip off.

    I went to a large university from 18-21, left school to start working which I did until I was 26, and now have gone back to a different university to finish up my degree. I thought maybe my dissatisfaction with higher education was due to immaturity on my part the first time around and now as a more responsible adult I might find it a valuable experience to finish my degree.

    It’s not a valuable experience. It’s pointless, a waste of time and money, just like it was during my first stint in college.

    Fact is I learned so much more, and developed far more as a person while working at a job than I ever did sitting in a classroom or lecture hall or lab all day. Work allowed me to grow as a person, and pay my bills, and become self sufficient, develop confidence in myself. College is nothing but stuffing information into my brain over and over, giving professors what they want, while at the same time functioning as a huge barrier to earning a living and being self sufficient. It’s a form of enslavement, using knowledge as a weapon.

    I’m literally eating out of garbage cans because academic commitments rob me of my ability to give time and energy to a job. But I’m supposed to spend mental energy figuring out taylor series polynomials and analyzing radix sort algorithms and other academic subjects. That’s insane. None of these genius professors have ever bothered to confront this issue. They’ve got their nice cars and houses at the students expense, what the hell do they care.

    Lets look at the concept. You PAY to do hard work, study all the time, and have no life. For years! That’s fucking insane. Not only that, but a full time academic schedule prevents you from earning a living and being able to support yourself, basically forcing yourself into massive debt. Therein lies the true purpose of college, taking your money so that when you get out you are forced to become tied to a job for years just to break even.

    The last thing I want to do after getting screwed like this is contribute to society in any way, but I won’t have a choice.

  59. Hey all. I’m in my third and final year of a BA Marketing degree and I hate it so much!

    I’ve got the ability to do really well, I always have when it comes to education. So it’s not like I hate uni because I’m failing. I just don’t want to do another rubbish assignment on something I couldn’t care less about.

    Ever since I started school I’ve been told how far I’m gonna go in life and that I should apply to a good university, etc. But when it comes down to it, I just don’t care about getting a degree. People just don’t seem to understand that it’s one thing being able to do something but a completely different thing having the passion to WANT to do it.

    I’m so sick of going to classes, worrying about assignments and exams, getting into more debt, and not enjoying my life. Life is way too short to worry about this shit! The real stupid thing is that I want to work in a casino and from what I know you don’t need a BA to deal cards!

    I want a job or a career where I can go into work, do my thing, and then come home and not worry! There is so much more to life than reading, researching and stressing out.

    I’m so scared of what other people would think about me or say, and I worry about all the money my parents have spent on tuition. What makes things worse is that this isn’t the first uni course I’ve been on!

    When I first left college I went to uni to do American Studies. I hadn’t given uni a lot of thought and just went for something I thought might be good fun, but when it came down to it I just didn’t want to be there. I walked away then and was so much happier!

    Now it’s 3 years on and I’m freaking out again! I really need to make a decision but I just don’t know what the hell to do.

    Sorry for the long post but I needed to get this stuff off my chest.

  60. I think it should be free, then people can feel free to leave if they hate it. I am paying three grand a year to do something I hate. Its a rip off and they take as much money from you as they can while you are there too. My depression is still as bad as it was at uni even though I am home, it is ruining all aspects of my life, yet I still cant bring myself to drop out, as I feel I am doing the right thing. Why do I follow my head instead of my heart? I wish I had the courage to take control but I just don’t. I have realised how little many things mean to me at uni now, and that the only things that really matter are my family, boyfriend, and friends being healthy and happy. This christmas I am not bothered about presents, I just want time with the people I love, I dont know how I am going to drag my arse back to uni in january though.

  61. I’ve been attempting to finish university since 1998. Yes, I know this is a sad ridiculous state. I left university in 2000 and joined the military. While in the military I continued my education distance ed. Now a civilian again, I find university so restricting. I feel most days I’m being held back. When I do ask questions, I’m told you don’t need to know that. Well, good lord… I might not need to know it, but I like to. I pay over 8000 pounds a year to attend uni, and I find myself suffocating in boring assignments.
    I suppose having a degree gives you more possibilities, but sometimes the time can eat you up.

  62. I honestly fuckin hate uni..i took 1 year out and i was so free.im now in my final year i just gotta finish this year or else all that will be a waste and il never be able to live with myself because i know i will regret it. also being at a shit uni doesn’t help.huddersfield for god sake…its ruining me now in the holidays i probably put on half a stone due t stress. id think lets do sum uni work then id be like no il eat instead..ive lost all control..ive tried so hard buts its ruining me i cannot even bring myself to do my dissertation and its in for end of march..im fcuked basically. o well nothing any1 can do just gta face the music and dance..thanks for listening. keep strong!
    see ya
    x

  63. o forgot to mention im studyin BA MARKETING like you kiki.
    x

  64. My god. I thought it was just me. I am sick to my hind gills of University. EVERY TIME I GET SOMEWHERE, THE FUCKING GOALPOSTS ARE MOVED. Like many others here, it’s robbed me of a life. I’m 29 now, and I’ve be though my degree, top ups to augment it and try and get a better job. what should have done is go into full time work straight out of high school like the rest of my mates. They are all married , engaged or in serious relationships and are having babies. Not to mention they earn a hell of a lot more than me. Uni was a waste of time and I sacrificed so much that now, I realise that life has passed me by completely. My plan didn’t work. Don’t be a fool kids, if you don’t feel right within the first 2 months of uni – GET THE FUCK OUT. Don’t make my mistake and slavishly follow a set path which you were sold as “The Right Way”. Only you know what is truly right for Y-O-U!

    Sorry, I have gone on a bit, but there ARE other choices than uni. I have found that a degree isn’t really sign of intelligence; it’s how well you can regurgitate the same shit you listen to in mind numbing lectures, delivered as only a uncharismatic bore (i.e. the lecturer) can.

    God…if I could turn back the clock!

  65. Hey all. I’m glad that I found this site. Well I’M NOT IN UNI YET, but I’m in upper 6th form and ABSOLUTELY HATE the idea of going to university! I feel like the black sheep in my school because practically everyone is going and thay are all talking about it all the time!!!!!!!!!

    I personally can’t get excited about the prospect of going to University to study a course I’m not particularly interseted in ( French an German – my fucking parents are really pushing this one) and coming out with a shit load of debt.

    I really don’t know what I’m going to do because EVERYONE is telling me the only way to get a good job and a good life is to get a degree! I would probably like to join the police force but my parents are telling me to go to Uni first so I can get promoted quicker an end up with more £££££££££££!

    What the fuck has tis world come to?! What the hell should I do?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  66. Back to Uni on Tuesday, But why? Someone please tell me why I am still going back to this place I hate and am so unhappy. I have been on a constant emotional rollercoaster since I got my results in August and I am sick of it. Should I really have to try to be happy? Cant my feelings just happen rather than me having to control them all the time so i can get on with my life? I am miserable. Help…please…anyone who has any wise words or advise, I need them. x

  67. Hi thank god for you lot!I hate university so so so so much!I thought I was weird for not liking uni-everyone telling me its were you will meet all your life friends and have the best time EVER!Well i HATE IT!1st year psychology student, it is bull!Only a few friends, halls are shit, the course is unbearable. I worked my ass off to get to uni and on this course, now i wish i hadnt bothered. If i didnt have family willing me on id have droped out by now. Ive got exams next week and i just DO NOT CARE! i want out but the thing stopping me is i dont want to become an owner of a council flat working at asda!I WANT A GOOG JOB!how do we get the good job without uni-any ideas…………..PLEASE!I also found this site by typing i hate uni on google!

  68. Hi again i was just reading someones comment who is doing a psychology degree and EVERYTHING you say is true!I cant beleive ive finally found ppl with the same views about uni as me. I loved psychology before uni and thought i had found my subject and a career now i just hate the damn thing. ive just spent last half hour on NHS website looking at what i have to do to train as a paramedic-how did this happen!!!!I really want to drop out but I will be seen as a failure by my family, plus what the hell do you do instead of uni?!

  69. Exactly, the way things are now means it is hard to get a good, well paid job without a degree. I do know people who have done it however, it just seems that the people I care about are telling me ocnstantly how much better I will be if I have a degree in terms of money in the future. I hate the fact that I listen to other people instead of myself sometimes but I am so confused, messed up and depressed, I feel that I can’t make proper decisions on my own now anyway. If the only thing stopping you is your family’s wishes, I say take control, I have more complicated saituations however, meaning it is harder for me to just make the decision to quit. I think I need to see a professional

  70. yes..I am so down
    I’m so broken..can’t find my self..I even cried today..I never cried like this unless I’m so hurted..this stupid so called prof. kept ignoring me and never listen to my questions like I’m kinda no-one..
    why these so called prof. thought them selves a hot-shot or something? they are no-bodies..they are just standing in our way…
    this university killed my soul..my dreams..and let me down ,broken, no friends, no social life..no shit

    no one cares..no one listens to me..
    evrybody think that university girls are happy….well i’m not
    as you said everyone in uni are fake..yes, they never noticed me, but this year everyone suddenley knows my name..huh, that because they want something from me..well, do you want to suck my soul more? go ahead, coz there is nothing left in me to be sucked, thanx to university hell.
    I used to think I’m smart and special and that I have something to give..but not anymore…why is this? I want a life..a real one,real ppl,real friends..someone who listen..

  71. finally…people who can understand how i feel. everything that has been said here i agree with totally. im in first yr psychology at liverpool, livin in halls n i hate it! i feel so alone n every1 else seemed to get a group of friends in the first 2 weeks! iv tried tlkin to ppl but know1 seems to want to know. i have a few friends on my course but not at my halls, so wen im at my halls i jus end up stayin in my little shitty room all day feelin depressed lookin out the window seein groups of students walkin past talkin laughin … u know jus bein friends. b4 i got here i tought id be friends with every1 on my floor but it hasnt happend. some ppl here are so stuck up!! i hav loads of ace friends at home n i miss them so much. if i dropped out n went home they wudnt be ther anyway cuz they r all at uni n lovin it. i dont know how these are the best days of your life, cuz for me they are the WORST so far. im not into the lifestyle of goin out n gettin wasted n wantin to pull EVERYNIGHT ….so is that my fault? ? ! i dont know what i would do instead of this but i know that i would rather be happier than go through all this for a piece of paper with numbers on at the end. hell id probably be happier in a dead end job than this, at least i would be at home with nice people who like me. u know…the other day i said ”hi” to this girl on my floor n she said ”hi” back, so i said ”how was ur christmas?” n she looked at me like i was askin her if she could blow up baloons from her ass! i mean do ppl where she comes from (london) not tlk to each other? are they not nice neighbours? she is part of this really clicky group of girls on my floor, the kind of group i wud wana be in if they wernt so bitchy, except i hav no chance bein cuz they arent interested. i have no idea what is soooo wrong with me! anyways rant over, im off to carry on revising for an exam i hav tomorrow…the joy! x

  72. My life is ruined, I am so stressed, I have become indecisive, upset, depressed, over analytical of everything and generally I am now wasting my life being unhappy. Everything I do ends up in tears.

  73. GOD its good to hear people in the same boat as me. Ive been at uni now for 4 months nearly, in my first year and hate it. Is there anyone else who just hates the lifestyle some students lead?? to be honest i’ve got better things to spend £50 on than getting pissed. I’m up for a laugh but these people just aren’t like me, in fact i know no one who is like me… i’m thinkin of leavin. Anyone got anything to say? Is anyone like me?!

  74. LULU it sounds like you really don’t wanna go, if i was u i’d look at other options, it’s not worth endin up miserable like me and all the other hundreds of ppl on here… look for other things..do something u love. Its best to be happy cos if ur like me u will end up makin urself ill from hatin uni so much… dont worry.

  75. KELLY it sounds like ur going through exactly the same thing as i feel.. but what can we do? i mean, there must be ways of getting a good job without a degree, but if ur like me u’ll get ppl telling you a degree is all u need! well thats crap cos i heard that degrees were gettin easier and now u dont always need one. I don’t know about u but even with thoughts like that i still cant find the courage to just drop out. I really liked what i had before uni, my family, my fun group of friends and my boyfriend. Well they are all that keeps me goin, but its hard cos all my friends are now lovin it and i feel like the odd one out. Why don’t i love it like everyone else? I’m not the type that wants to drink til i don’t know what i’m doin but it seems thats all students round here wanna do. My boyfriends great cos he is similar to me but he’s at a different uni and he does like it a bit, unlike me. I don’t wanna let anyone down if i drop out but i dont know how much more misery and depressing days i can cope with. ITS SHIT ISNT IT?!

  76. NOME do you have an email addy or an instant messaging addy? We shoud talk, we will probably end up depressing ourselves more but hey…I could do with talking to someone who doesnt’t think I am crazy x x x

  77. hi KELLY, if you wanna email me my add is gardenome88 AT hotmail DOT com thats also my msn messenger address. Course i don’t think your crazy! I’m just glad there are people who feel the same, cos i really thought i was alone. x x

    Edit: I’ve taken the liberty of modifying the email address slightly to protect it somewhat from spam harvesting bots. -ketsugi

  78. oh shut up..look at us whining like old whinos..pffffffff

    Hell…

  79. Its my third year at hull uni UK and im back in the first year because i changed course, (stayed in the same department) and discovered that the modules for this year are the same as they were last year. :(
    Ive hated uni since i got here (i only went to uni so i wouldnt have to stay at home) and slowly but surely i have started to lose my mind. every day is the fucking same, with the same worries and same fears. i could leave but then as a few of you have said ‘ill be the guy who dropped out’

    in all fairness its my own fault, i guess i just havent got the guts to leave. i get no pressure from my parents about uni (of course they want me to do well) but i still feel like im dissapointing them with the endless wrong choices i seem to make.

    so far uni has given me – debt, intense boredom, depression, more debt, a general lack of interest in politics, people who i really dont want to know or talk to and levels of sarcasm i never knew were possible.

    rant over :)

  80. Gotta go back uni on monday and im dreadin it. Im at bangor I hate wales now stupid place. Back to sittin in my room all day I HATE IT! I dont get on properly with any1 on my floor and have only made about 4 friends who i know i could talk to…………i want my friends from home!Im so pleased to hear other ppl say they dont like the ‘student lifestyle’ i hate it. I like goin out some nights but not every night gettin hammered.People say these are the best days of your life well if thats true what the hell is life like after uni?cant be as bad as this it totally sucks. Ive got two xams next week as soon as im done on thurs im gettin in my car and drivin back home for ten days.Then ill have another moan that i dont wana go back.aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i hate uni!

  81. I want to transfer to a uni closer to home, In london so I can travel in every day and not have to stay there. I want to try and sort this out for next year. Do you think that would be possible anyone?

  82. I agree with all of you guys, I’m a first year student in a uni in the south-east which shall remain nameless…..I came back after Christmas last Saturday so I’m a week into my 2nd term.

    Yeah, uni is crap, I can’t believe I’m paying 3k a year for this, and everything else on top, I haven’t made any friends, everyone is so fake and just out for themselves – nasty, backstabbing. The course is uninspiring and I never learn anything from the lectures. I spend most of each day in bed.

  83. well i was so unhappy after just 4 days that ive come home again, to seriously re think the whole uni thing. Im just makin a list of other things i could possibly do, some possible some stupid! but i just had to get away to think things through. I hate it so much, if uni is about havin fun then why have i cried every day since ive been back? I used to be motivated, passionate about my subject, being at uni has takent hat all away, i had one lecture last week and i couldn’t even go to that cos i was so low. I haven’t slept properly for 6 nights now, and thats cos all this stress is on my mind. Its too mcuh to deal with. i need to be doing something fun and excitin to keep my brain alive! but this has been the worst first term of my life. Im not usually depressed, and my family and friends from home have said how its so not like me to be down and feeling so low, so at least they know what I’m goin through. Its not gonna be easy but we all have to sort it out and follow what we really want to do, regardless of family and friends, after all, its not them going through it. Look at me givin advice – ive gotta learn to take it myself! but i know how hard it is and i totally relate with everyone on here. x

  84. oh and KELLY, a friend of mine transferred from one uni to another after his third year and went staright into the 2nd year on a similar course. I was gonna do the same, so i could live at home, i just e-mailed the admissions departments at the uni askin if its possible, cos i dont wanna repeat the first year if ive already suffered it once! they haven’t replied yet, surprise surprise, but im waitin to hear from them. Thats if i even decide to carry on at uni, cos im so not sure at the mo. x

  85. sori meant he left after his first year and went in to his 2nd!

  86. going back today!!!

  87. nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  88. hey…this is to people who are considering living at home for uni….I’m doing it this year and seriously, I’m on the edge. If you hate uni, its uni life, whether you live there or not you are still part of it. I’ve made the deicison today to leave….I cannot put myself through this stress/despair/upset everyday simply to get a qualficition which means nothing in todays society. I really do wish everyone good luck.

  89. I wish uni had never been invented. Although, would a job be any better?

  90. Yeah, I am thinking I might be able to, although, I want some opinions…If I can’t transfer who thinks it would be ridiculous to travel almost 2 hours to uni and the same back so I can live at home? Bearing in mind I will most of the time only be going in 3 or 4 days a week and I am only at Uni for about 22 weeks in a whole year. Every other Monday I will leave home at 6.30am and be back by lunch time, Tuesdays I will leave home at lunch time and be home by 6pm, Wednesdays I will leave at 6.30am and be home by 2.30pm, Thursdays I will leave home at about 8.30am and probably stay the night with my friend on the weeks when I have to be in on a friday, although this is only about 5 more weeks this year, the rest of the time I get that day off. Who thinks this is a bad timetable for the rest of the term?? Like..9 weeks of it. I think its worth it so I dont have to live at uni but I want to know what other people think. I will also be travelling in next year if I cant get transferred, for the roughly 22 weeks in the year I am there. This is not counting all the cancelled lectures, or pointless ones lol. Oppinions needed please :)

  91. I think you might burn yourself out by doing all of that travelling Kelly, if i were you i would go for the transfer, and failing that just bite the bullet and stay at uni – it will be over sooner than you think, trust me i know because i was exactly the same as you and i tried to travel and it didn’t work. Good luck whatever you do :)

  92. It doesnt look like transferring will be much of an option and I cant stay at uni anymore, I am going to give up my flat and try and get some money back. Looks like I am going to have to give commuting a go. Hol, how long did you have to travel and why didnt it work? Part of me thinks I will be ok, getting some work or reading done, or listening to music when I have to go in, but I also keep having panic attacks.

  93. Kelly, I too have panic attacks…I know how you are feeling I promise. I find with travelling in my thoughts become magnified, its just me and my head…it makes everything so much worse for me. However, for you, this could be just what you need, some time alone to get things done etc….this whole website just makes me feel that I am not alone etc so thanku all for that. Am i a loser if i drop out? my biggest fear is what people think of me, but I have been told by so many professional advisors that in todays business a degree does not really benefit you (talking about my situation specificially here, I’m not commenting on others degrees) so feel that it is totally not worth it me staying and making myself so ill? I kinda need reassurance from people that just because I dont do the uni thing I’m not a loser….

  94. One of the things I have found is that since coming to uni I have become very reliant on certain habits of mine and my days now are based around my habits and addictions. I don’t mean drugs or alcohol or anything crazy, but just stuff like obsessive compulsive disorder when I am stressed. Like I keep thinking I have left the tap on or the fridge door open. I know that being so uptight and unhappy that I am having these thoughts can’t be healthy but what can one do?

  95. Well I am going to have to give it a go. LOU, just picture in your head yourself having left uni and in a job or something, forget what people think, just focus on your own thoughts. If that seems more attractive to you in terms of your happiness then drop out and don’t look back. However if your doubts about dropping out are about what you truly want, not what other people think then maybe you should stick it out. Please everyone let me know what you think of me commuting all that time to uni.

  96. Lou i think you are in the same boat as me, the reason i have stayed in uni for so long is because i fear what people would think of me if i left.

    i guess the other big fear a lot of uni leavers have is ‘where to go next?’ its not exactly easy to land a job straight away so there is a severe lack of money issue and then of course potential employers may see you as ‘non commital’ if you have dropped out of uni.

    but all that aside, you are not a loser, no one who leaves uni is. if you are not happy there then you have no reason to make the effort or time for it.
    you have to decide in your own mind what is best for you, its not about the other people and all their bullshit. if people cant understand your decision and support your actions then maybe you shouldnt be listening to them in the first place.

    the best advice i can give is to leave, experience life in the real world and see what you think. if you then decide after a few years that you should of got a degree then you can easilly get back into uni as a mature student.

    do what makes you happy :)

  97. Hey kelly, i live in bolton and tried commuting to liverpool for a year (around 1 and a half – 2 hours each way) because i hated living in halls and wanted to be with my family more. I was in my 2nd year when i started commuting and it was such a strain – my studies suffered so much and it made me hate uni more than when i was living in halls (which is really saying something!). So i decided to move back into accomodation in liverpool for my final year, and while it was hard and lonely most of the time, the thought of the end kept me going, and that third year really did fly by. When i finished my final exams and packed up my stuff to go home it was the most satisfying and gratifying thing i’ve ever done. It made the whole experience worthwhile and i really feel like a stronger person for it. I am genuinely happy now in a good job (albeit not remotely linked to my degree) and that time away at uni makes me appreciate how good life is now. Stick with it, and you will feel so proud of yourself at the end.Hol.x.

  98. Hi guys, i am one of the so-called “losers” who dropped out of uni – i left in my 2nd year in november and let me tell you it is the best thing i have ever done – i’ve just got myself a job as a trainee engineer with a large telecommunications company, and i have never been happier – i’m back with my real friends, back with my family and earning a decent wage too – beats being miserable and doing something which your heart isn’t in. So if you want to leave, just do it, and don’t look back, it’s not worth worrying about what other people will think – if you are that unhappy do something about it instead of wasting a large chunk of your precious youth.

  99. Hey Hol, I gave up my room at Uni today. I dont think commuting will work either but I guess I am going to have to do it now. What else can I do?

  100. Hi ppl im back at uni i drove back took 3hrs. got bk my window had bin smashed and the dude who came t repair it had not cleaned up. the rock was still on my floor aswell as huge bits of glass and tiny bits aswel. I spent the evening picking up glass off my bed! AS IF IT COULD OF GOT ANY WORSE! i am looking to change courses next year so hopefully that mite make it a little better and try and live with one of my friends. Hope u are all coping-i wudnt reccomnd driving to uni everyday if it takes two hours, u will get so run down with the extra stress it involves.

  101. I wouldnt be driving, it would be on 2 trains. Think that makes it better?

  102. Yeah, I hate it as well, my is course is decent and the people are nice but it just isn’t for me. I’m in my first first year studying physics and maths and have already gone past the deadline for getting the 3k refunded so will carry on until the summer and see how I feel then. I will probably stay on until the end of the 3 years because I don’t want to be a failure, plus I believe that it gets you a better job. I have a countdown timer on my desktop that counts down the days, hours etc. until the next holiday and sometimes just stare at that hoping that it will turn into zero. Also for this term (this is sad) I have put some sweets in my cupboard and a message for myself to be opened in the last week- pretty much saying “I told you it went quick and here’s the summer to enjoy” (don’t laugh). I have probably gone mad and not realised. I agree with you all about the idiots- the other day, about 50 people came into our small kitchen and wrecked it, not just that but ripped up all the slabs from outside and laid them on the floor in the kitchen, complete with soil, part of a zebra crossing post and a damn tree-strange stuff is lager.

  103. i hate uni! is it just me or are laot of poeple from liverpool uni?? I hate it here it bores the crap out of me and i think id probbaly be ready 2 join a cult! im a really sociable person i find it all plain here and conversations boring an pointless! im goin mad!

  104. does it get better?

  105. no it doesnt get better. It’s either carry on being miserable doing this or be miserable knowing you dropped out

  106. Hey guys, i really feel bad for you, knowing how bad i felt when i was in your situation. Kelly, i don’t want to keep telling you not to give up on uni because i know it’s not for a lot of people, and just look at what Edie said – he/she dropped out and has made a success of life within 3 months of quitting, and has regained the hapiness which uni took away. I don’t really know what my point is here, as you can probably tell, hehe, but i suppose you only know yourself what the best course of action is – whatever choice you make, it WILL be the right one. This is what i believe anyhow – if you are meant to finish uni – you will, and vice versa. So don’t beat yourself up any longer people :) Hol.XXX.

  107. Well I’ve finally made the decision to LEAVE UNI! I got a form last week and it kinda made me laugh that I spent all that time planning and preparing for uni but I can leave in a couple of weeks. I know its been a bit of a waste of time but I think I had to experience it to be able to say that it wasn’t for me. At least i can say i tried! So, even though i don’t really know what I’m gonna do, i’m going home and I’ll hopefully get a job and earn a bit, whilst getting some careers advice, and maybe volunteering for a bit to get experience and something else to put on my CV. Lifes too short to be unhappy, moaning and moping around this crap place, and even though I feel like a bit of a failure at the moment I’m just gonna try this and see what happena, I can’t feel worse than the way I do while Im at uni. And no matter what other people say, its you who has to make the decisions for yourselves…everyone is different and all ahve different experiences of uni. Just because you don’t like it its not the end of the world, you can always go later, or not at all! It really doesnt matter – there are so many options that don’t involve uni, its just finding them. I just hope everyone tries to do whats best for them, don’t let anyone get in your way. x

  108. what I want is to be happy…but how can I at University? And how can I if I quit?

  109. I dont know anything anymore…is it me thats the problem or is it not. I thought i got on with people. Evidently not. Talk about next year and people paying deposits this week is making me sick. I dont know what to do……i think i dno-tried to go out and meet nu ppl etc..but ppl are telling me not to do that and that making friends should be a natural process. Uni is also forced and unnatural. Suddenly 18 due to society some people leave home….and you then have to make friends and you ahve to do this and that. Its society shaping us into these egotostical idiots.

  110. I agree. It is forced and unnatural. I am living at home now but still feel awful, full of fear and uneasiness whenever I set foot in Uni. Will it get better next year if I switch Unis or get a car to make commuting easier?

  111. WTF is wrong with you people… i used to think the same way as you.. but get your fucking heads out of your fucking asses… do u know what university is about… it isnt about the shit u learn.. thats a small part of it.. its about being able to take whats thrown at you.. this is why there is respect for people who graduate.. there is respect for students.. because it is known… all over the world that is is a struggle… and ofcourse this is what sets you different from other people who cant take this shit and leave… you think people dont know the lectures are bullshit.. the shit u do is bullshit.. but look at it this way… if u can take that.. u can take anything in life.. and this is why employers will emply you.. because they know you will be able to take the stress… but what if u were one of the drop outs.. WHY THE FUCK WOULD EVEN I HIRE YOU… you might just drop out of the job.. because its too fucking hard for you and too bullshit… and dont look at the richest people in the world who have no education… theres also bums on the street with no education.. and theres alot more of them than there are rich people… Those are the lucky people who make it… what if youre not so lucky?

  112. Don’t talk to us like that…It’s not just stress and nor are we moaning about nothing. Why do you think we are sticking at it? to try and graduate of course…and having a degree does not mean you don’t have no education. You don’t belong on here so please leave, you have no idea about the sorts of emotions some of us are experiencing.

  113. Thank God that I found this site! I think that you have got to be pretty fed up to type into google (like i did) “i hate uni”!

    I find uni absolute shit – i have just 6 hours a week of the course that i actually enjoy and one of those hours is shite. I think that most people who have come to my uni are not here to learn but because they are too immature to go and get a job so they decide to come and dos on some shitty subject at uni. What’s more, those people are the most fake, boring and stupid people I have ever met – and then ur supposed to make friends with them, if not ur a weirdo!!?

    I have disliked it here almost since the moment I arrived but I have decided to ignore all those idiots who don’t shut up about their houses for next year (i dont knoz wot the ruish is it just proves how thick they r cos they r all get fleeced by the landlord for summer rent, signing fees and deposits which might only get paid back years ahead!)etc etc. I am gonna stick it out in this shithole until summer and then come June 1st i am gone!!! i am transferring (if i can find out how) to a uni where i have real friends who feel the same as i do about uni.

    If i cant transfer then that is me and uni life finished. i will get a job and work my way up, it simply is not worth bein g so unhappy for no reason at all.

    I would just like to say to ‘lakshyt’ that i think you are exactly the type of person who makes uni so crap.

  114. oh yeah i just anted to add this:

    Have u ever wondered why during the first few weeks at uni u think that u have already met half the people that u r introduced to? Well this just goes to show what a load of stupid sheep the majority of people at uni r – they all talk, dress, walk, act and think the same as each other – thats why they enjoy themselves and i dont – cos i aint prepared to clone myself into that shit!

    now if you’ll excuse me i gotta go bust my housemates ass – she is smoking in our non smoking flat and it is filling my room (what a nice person i sound!)!!

  115. i said i used to be like you.. and when i said that i meant it and i might still be. what you have to understand is to suck it up.. and take it.. because these HARD 4 years of your life, will hopefully ease off the rest of your life. so study, hate it, because your not the only ones who do… and hopefully in the future you will be in a much better position that you would have been if you take the easy way out now. life is not easy, and it might get harder and harder as you move along.. remmember this.
    even though you may not know this now, you will know later on that this life that you hate now, will honestly be one of the easiest years of your life. and in order to know this now, you need to look ahead, look ahead to what you need to do in the next years of your life, in the years after uni. tell me what you will be doing? working? getting married, then what.. having childeren.. raising them, educating them.. life will only get harder, and you might not be getting another break. me? i dont belong here? why do you think im here? writing what im writing, i am doing this for me too. i hope you understand what im trying to say.

  116. You seem to be missing the point though. Of course life is hard. I am not saying that I am stressed or that uni life is simply ‘hard’. I enjoy hard things, I like a challange, I look forward to the chaos of having children and hopefully having a job that I can get stuck in to. Uni life is not simply ‘hard’, it causes me upset and tears, dispair and depression, panick and anxiety attacks, I feel out of place and alone, I feel desperate and at times hysterical. I have been to a psychiatrist and am on anti-depressants. I hate university because of what it does to me and on top of that I hate a lot of ways it is run. University is more than a challange for me. These years will not be the easiest of my life…please don’t patronise me.
    Nick, I am hoping to transfer to so that I can live at home next year and just have a short commute. Either that or I will be buying a car and driving an hour to my current university on the days I have lectures and stuff. I think next year I will be happier and that once the summer comes I can try my best to put all these feelings behind me. I am never going to like university, but I hope it can become something that makes me just a bit frustrated rather than depressed.

  117. I know what both of you two mean and agree with both. I really do actually enjoy challenges and hard work – i had to work damn hard to get to uni. and i do realise that uni is hopefully going to open lore doors in the future, this is the only reason why i am here.

    However I know exactly how Kelly feels and hopefully we both take comfort in that. there r some real arseholes at uni who make life really uncomfortable (not hard). i guess tho u just have to go back to why we r at uni – we r here to learn and if u bear that in mind then it does get easier. i sometimes can stress myself out just thinking of all the work i have to do, all the money i owe and i too can get really stressed about not enjoying ,yself here and making more friends. I guess this however will all just take time. Like lakshyt says we just gotta give it time and not bother wot ne1 else thinks or what we should be doing. I think in time, when i start treating this place as a great learning institution, that when i will start to enjoy uni life. i hope u get wot i mean!

  118. It’s my fault for choosing to come here and choosing to put on a happy face every day and go to lectures. I hate it, but I do it with a smile because I’m too chicken to quit. God, talk about lily livered; I am THE epitome of a coward. Sigh!

  119. Ah, kindred spirits. Some of these entries really made me laugh…and I can completely relate because the whole uni thing is just so ridiculous. I’m a philosophy student in my final year and God, I hate it. It’s taking enormous willpower not to just run away from this place screaming and never come back. The only good thing is that I have a couple of good friends…everything else about uni life is so crap. The only part of my course that was remotely interesting was marxism…learning about why the capitalist society that got me here in the 1st place is so fucked up. I’m not doing any work & at this rate I’l prob fail but I just can’t wait to leave…uni is my prison & all i want to do is get out there and be myself, self-sufficient and growing in my own way. So glad there are others like me out there!

  120. I think uni is really going to be a thing of the past soon. So many people become successful without going and so many people have degrees it seems almost impossible to stand out anyway! I wished I’d thought about this before I started but I’m on my third year and not too far from finishing so I might aswell finish. I’ve also just realised I’ve wasted 3 years hanging out with people I actually hate!

  121. Yeah I agree, university blows but at least it’s better then working 9-5 at Mc’shits taking orders from some greesy teenager whose balls probably havent dropped yet.

  122. Bored…depressed…Spent whole of my Sunday in my room and just randomly typed in ‘I hate university’ in google and was surprised to find this with so many like-minded people.

    Uni is over-rated (I’m at Edinburgh Uni by the way)Uni is made out to be this amazing thing where you’re intellectual enriched and have a buzzing social life. But I’ve never been so lonely in my life. I have but a handful of friends at uni of only one which I can say is a genuine friend and even then I don’t get to see her much on account of us doing completely different courses and of her living in the catered halls. Instead I am stuck here in a self-catered flats with a bunch of randoms I so incompatible with and I swear we were stuck together because of similiar socio-economic and geographical backgrounds. Never mind our interests and personality… One of my flatmates is ‘Miss Popular’ who makes ‘friends’ with everyone. You know those types? Somewhat fake. Come across as nice but you swear they are saying things behind your back. People who base their friendships on quantity rather than quality. Then there is my other flatmate who has on several occasions played her music at anti-social times disrupting my sleep (8am on a Saturday and 3am on a night when only I was in – How nice of her). My other flatmate, a law student acts somewhat aloof around me. The other flatmate…well she’s just a bit well… dull.
    I get out with my ‘genuine’ friend at least once a week and we’re getting a flat together next year. But for now the only thing keeping me happy is my boyfriend who visits once a week/fortnightly.

    As for the academic side of things. I’m passing first year so far but I just can’t take it any more. I love history but sitting with my head in a book ALL the time is getting up my nose. Doesn’t help either that my once interesting outsiders course Social Anthropology has taken a great dive (we’re now looking at irrigation systems in Bali!!!).
    I should have done something more practical – ignored my guidance teacher and done primary teaching or something.

    Wish you didn’t need a bloody degree to get a good job nowadays. 3/4 years in something you could very well hate just so you can avoid working at Tescos… (my ever so exciting part-time job).

    *sigh* I need to be doing something more practical. Working with kids. Or travelling the world. Or something in the community.
    Maybe I should drop the middle-class lifestyle aspirations?
    I love reading but I’m sick of academic texts and sitting on my arse all the time…

    Ahhh… It’s fun to vent out pent up anger…

  123. hi just reading what u guys write is awesome finally i have found people with exactly the same thoughts and feelings about uni. I to have only one ‘friend’ at uni who im gettin a house with next year the rest well……..lets not go there. I spend nearly everyday locked up in my room hating that im there.At xmas i was soooo close to droppin out but i so want to get a degree and say look thats what ive acheived and i hated every second of it! im at bangor university studying psychology. A subject which i thought rocked at alevel but actually its aload of bull at degree level i have done one subject that i have enjoyed so far and so am really pissed off, it is all just maths. I to am way to scared to drop out i dont want to be seen as a failure nor do i want to go and work at a till 9-5. Every time i have no lecs im in my car and heading north back to my home. ive just had a week off going back 2moz and back home again.Its totally screwing with my head being at uni god knows what state i will be in three years from now.

  124. It makes me think life isn’t worth living. University is bad, my life is complicated. I can’t face the pain.

  125. i love you all for thinking exactly the same as me, i seriously thought i was the only person who hated uni. I hated the work, i hated the people, i hatedd the lifestyle. I preffered waitressing to that shit. Ive recently quit and gone to college and trust me its so much more relaxed and friendlier, no one is competing with each other and ive found its just generally a nicer atmosphere. And for all of you who think you’re life will be shit if you dont get a degree and a high profile career, trust me it wont be, life is about being happy and doing what motivates you, so follow your heart i say.

  126. I go to UQ in Australia and I hate every second of it, I hate just being there, I hate the people, I hate their godlike attitudes and I hate the fact that as hard as I have tried I just can’t seem to be happy there, I just can’t fit in, no matter what. I can’t make any friends at all. Ever since I have come to this lonely, hostile, anti-social black hole, I have been single, made very few friends (2) and the detrimental psychological effects of this all is making the most simple things in life a daily challenge. When I am not at university I am nervous about having to go back there. It really makes me uneasy just thinking about it. I am in my third year, but I just started studying something else so I am back at the beginning.

    Academically I am doing fine, I enjoy what I study, but at university I just can’t study, I can’t concentrate, I don’t enjoy what I do, and just being there, it sucks the joy out of daily life and turns it into a dull struggle that has to be overcome. When I go home my mind clears up, I am surrounded by a loving family and when I sit down and read that maths or biology book I actually enjoy it, I enjoy learning and I can’t wait to learn more. But when I am at uni, my mentality and attitude change, when I am at uni I am lonely, lethargic, pessimist, angry, full of hate and bitterness.

    I see big cliques of people, of superficial girls, or jocks, hippies and alternatives with identity issues, but I just get jealous and bitter. I don’t like the fact that other people can come here and make friends so easily but to me making friends is like some stupid game I am never going to win. I just don’t want to play a game I can’t win, and I just hate the fact that making friends seems like a game when in the past it just happened. I hate it because I have never been the kind of person that is jealous. This is just one negative change in me induced by the horrible atmosphere of UQ. I have been the type of person that believes in courtesy and politeness, because when you think about it, when two strangers are polite to each other it is so much easier than if they hate each other. Being polite used to come naturally to me, now it is hard to be polite on account that the person you are being polite to (especially if they are female) just might spit in your face (not literally) for being that way. Some people I know are only friends with me when it is convenient, otherwise they don’t want to have anything to do with me, I just hate the way I meet one of these ‘friends’ and they are all like “Hey there, great to see you again, haven’t seen you for a while, lets go and hang out for the next 6.66 minutes, but then I got to get going, see you later” and after that they will not call you, they will not want to see you again unless you just happen to bump into them by pure coincidence and not by a planned act of simple friendship. I really hate those types of fake friends, I just don’t know what to do with them, on one hand they are being nice to you, but on the other they don’t mean it. I have tried to keep in contact with them but they are always too busy for me. I just don’t know, I just wish university was different, I just wish not everybody had to be there, I just wish it was more peaceful, less crowded, less rushed, more civilized and just a better place to be, a place one looks forward to going to, a place where you can learn in peace.

    Everyone at UQ acts like they are the best, they think they are better than everyone else, they act like they go to MIT or Yale, but I seriously doubt that a UQ degree has much recognition outside of Australia. I just hate the way that I am this way; I have been a lot happier in the past, why does it have to be different now?

  127. Because university isn’t for everyone. it makes lots of people genuinely unhappy. University is not for me, I hate it, but I want a degree and now I have started I may as well try to get one so I can have a better future. If I could rewind to deciding whether or not to go to university I definitely wouldn’t though.

  128. I ended up on the third year of a BA top up course after doing an HND in digital art which I am now hating more and more each day with every passing project.

    Initially the HND was fun, I stayed local and didn’t go away to university in some far away place like every single one of my friends did, I just couldn’t handle the thought of doing that. Our school pushed us all into applying for the best degrees at the best universities, but I wasn’t going to stand for this, and neither should anyone else. If you don’t feel happy about doing something, don’t do it.

    For the entirety of my three years at uni I have been working part time in an off licence where I get to experience alot of the antics of local moronic students, as well as the area in which I live which appears to be populated by the usual idiots proudly parading around their university logo hoodie as if it makes them look educated and better than everyone else. In reality, these are just the people that get up to the same supposedly amusing drunken yob behaviour every year in the same manner. I’ve had enough with caterwauling karaoke at 4am from the students living next door – I’m a student too, and I had a big presentation to make that day. Or perhaps drunkenly pushing people holding road traffic signs into my car at club kicking out time is also amusing student behaviour – I can tell you *not*..

    Enough about that anyway, I was fortunate not to have to deal with living in some grotty university halls and put up with these kind of people as some of you have done, and I am so glad about this. Reading these comments has confirmed my suspicions about just how terrible life would be in such a situation, and how glad I am that I have never and WILL NEVER ever be a part of that, as I only have to put up with a few more months of this course from hell.

    So why is it a course from hell? So many reasons are pouring from my mind now, but I don’t think I can bring myself to type out too much more of this endless rant and bore you all to death. I’ll try to cut it short…

    Firstly, I have had about 7 different course tutors since the start of term due to the major lack of planning and timetable consideration. I feel that because of this I have been the victim of the pot luck grading system again with a very average and disappointing grade given to me by some random tutor who has yet to even understand my work. I came out of the HND with high hopes, I felt so proud of myself, I was achieving the best and even got given a title as student of the year. I’ve always been one for achievement and have pushed myself so far when it comes to the creative arts. I got the top grade in my final exam project on the HND, and produced something that I was extremely pleased with. Now I feel like the work that I produce and the way in which I work is being penalised due to my fine art background.

    People on this course make shit work, corporate grey sludge you wouldn’t notice from one piece of work to the other, and they get a big pat on the back. I can see easily that most of these people have no creative skill, eye, or talent, they just tick the boxes and make the most obvious thing possible and it’s lapped up. It kills me to see how people like this can get this kind of congratulatory bigging up when these tutors are telling us always to push the boundaries, think outside the box. The usual phrases.

    I just dream of the time when I can stop worrying about meaningless, shitty, projects (currently stressing over having to produce something for a creative competition which it is compulsory for us to enter and have had only 4 weeks to do, when other courses have had 8 weeks), and get on with my life.

    If I had known that this course was going to be such a complete soul destroyer, I would have been happy with just an HND. I left that feeling good about my work, like I stood out from the rest. Now I just feel like I am someone stood in the background producing crap work just to fill the spaces in the tutors time. I hate my uni and I hate my course.

    Not only that, I am currently working between 20 and 30 hours a week just to be able to pay the bills and rent etc, when the morons on my course seem to think that they can just exist on 20 quid a week and quit their jobs to be able to do more uni work. HOW?!!!! If I had to quit anything, it would be the course, not the job. At least it gives me something back that I can use.

    As one of my regular customers said to me, “There are earners, and there are learners.”

    I think that phrase sums it all up.

  129. Guys. Guys. Just get the stupid piece of paper/degree. Then you can do two things:

    1) Become a high school teacher and perpetuate the cycle so the next generation can know our university pains. lol

    2) Pursue your dreams. Live, love, get paid and get laid. And if you strike it rich and famous, take out that degree that was collecting dust and burn it in front of the entire world. Boo yah!

  130. well I had a slight stage at uni were i actually enjoyed the work-stuff on the brain lol. However it has all gone backwards and im hating it even more now. My head is in such a state. would i be happy if i did quit now?what job would i get?should i get a job and go college at night?if i quit ive failed and ive struggled to get this far so is it worth it?

    Ive just failed two final exams from semester 1 and told mum and dad yesters after weeks of lying that i hadnt got them (not like me to lie, but i did because to ashamed).now its D Day…..think about where you wana go and what u wana do they tell me.WHO KNOWS, IF I KNEW THAT I WUDNT HAVE A FUCKED UP HEAD!

    the one thing that i thought was going to be my thing (psychology)has turned out to be the thing that i hate the most now im left with nothing, nothing at all.

    To make this all a hell of a lot less worse i crashed and wrote my car off last week. so the one thing that was my release from the hell is literally crashed and burned. and at this present moment in time I HATE LIFE.

    which for a 19 year old is something not good to admit.

  131. It’s not good to admit but at the same time it’s not good to pretend that its not true which i think far more people are doing now. I just found out that I have a test in a couple of weeks, the week I was told I didn’t have anything to do because it was the last week before easter and was for people to make sure they had done all their coursework, which i have almost finished and always planned to give in before then. I was looking forward to staying for a week with my boyfriend who lives 3 hours away meaning I only get to see him at weekends. But no…they tell me now I have a test on the tuesday.
    I miss him so so so much, we met over a year ago on holiday and it has always been long distance but I am getting sick of it and things like this make me want to burst in to tears. On top of that, they aren’t leaving us long to revise. I really hate uni and sometimes I feel like I am only doing it so can see my boyrfriend more, i.e holidays which would be non existant if I worked. I do want a degree and I’d like to be a primary teacher if I get there in the end but it really is killing me, I don’t like the people, the place, the course, anything. I am living at home now and driving to Uni 1hour away, which isnt so bad really. I just wish I was doing something I liked. I wish I was happy..it’s been so long I don’t really remember what it feels like.

  132. What do you all think?

    Im currently thinking about what i should do-

    1-stay at bangor and keep goin with psychology-i hate the subject
    2-stay at bangor and change courses-ive not really made any good friends in bangor-not very happy being there
    3-change uni and keep doin psychology-will moving to a uni near home (get to live at home) make me enjoy the course more?
    4-change uni and start a new course
    5-ditch uni and get a job at asda-not really keen on this one!

    I have no idea what to do, all these options keep flying round in my head and i have no idea which is the correct ‘path’ please what do you all think?

  133. wow, its so good to know its not just me! i would moan on and on about uni but am so FUCKING tired, depressed and fed up coz i HATE it so much i really dont have the energy to say much more! am now going to go knock myself out on sleeping tablets to combat the fucking insomnia a life of sitting in lectures and studying leads to!

  134. If I were you I would change Uni and keep Psychology. The thing is, living at home would make you happier, it did me! but at the same time, trying to adjust to a new place as well as a new subject might be really hard. Unless you have a subject you think you’d love i’d stick with psyc, I am doing psyc too and I agree it is not what I thought it would be but I have found myself more interested in it since living at home.

  135. thanks thats helped!man glad ive found someone else who thinks this subject is lame! do u take tests everyweek on stats? and do presentations every week? THERES NO PSYCHOLOGY TO BE FOUND! we also have to do writing skills class, dont even get me started!

    which uni do u got to?

    anyone go to preston?

  136. I go to Kent, Yeah it mostly seems to be about maths with a bit of biology thrown in. I also have to do a ‘wild module’ which is policits. So..no real psychology at all! we don’t have tests but we have assignments pretty much every week.

  137. I was sold this wonderful, bountiful dream of University when I left college (or sixth form to stop anglo-american confusion), where I could sit and debate about the subject I was passionate about and get good, coherent answers and thrilling arguments. But No. Apparently University is only good and enjoyable if you can down a pint in 2 seconds, join a stupid society which revolves more about reputation and sexual prowess than whether youre actually any good at it, and it’s alright to doss off lectures and not say a word in seminars because theres always someone to pick it up, mainly the person who talks a lot because theyve actually read the book rather than go off to Vodka Island at Tiger fucking Tiger. Even the lecturers seem to have given up hope, only a small minority actually argue back at you and contest your views, the others just let you be because obviously your existance doesnt mean a thing. The amount of times Ive wanted to scream in seminars because I cant get my point across because some dappy idiot needs explaining on a simple literary term such as stanza. You learn that in GCSE for petes’ sake. I give up half the time. I really do. I’ve found about two or three other friends that share my dislike for the modern University status and we’ve been branded elitists. Which I actually accept, because I’d rather be an elitist who’ll get somewhere than a socialite who wont.
    Really. What happened to the old dream of University?
    gah, yours, T.

  138. hey guys. ive just read through from top to bottom, and im totally put of going to university lol. this is my situation…
    at the moment im a salesperson at (currrys) for all you people from the uk, and ive been doin it for the past 2 years. when i first started i used to love it, that buzz you get after uve done a big sale with all the extras on it (warranties e.t.c) and ur boss rubbing his hands with a big fat grin on his face but now i cant stand the job. its all about targets targets targets and too much pressure to achieve them. also all of my collueges are money grabbin twats who dont give a damn about the customers just as long as they squeeze them of every penny thay have to their name. so im thinkin of gettin out of this job and going to university and gettin a degree. ive heard its one of he best experienecs of ur life and ull meet loads of new people and so on. im 20 at the mo and i really dont wanna make the wrong choice and cock up my life completely. if i choose to go uni i know ill have to stick it out all the way or me dad would just dis-own me.just need a bit of advice of everyone here on what to do, im sooooooooooo stressed please help.

    oh and by the way edie i think ur veyy brave for what u did and following ur heart.

    (i actually found this website by typing “i love university” in google…it works try it lol.

  139. Hi romeo, i don’t think you should allow the stories of woe on this page to put you off going to uni – it isn’t bad for everyone, you will more than likely be one of the lucky people who has an easy time making friends there (you’re still young enough to fit in with the general uni age group), which in turn definitely makes the whole experience better! My only advice would be to think through your choice of degree very carefully – there’s nothing worse than getting halfway through your 2nd year and realising you picked the wrong subject(exactly what my best friend did!).
    I did the same as you’re thinking of doing – went to uni after 2 years of working for the NHS in a crappy position after my a-levels, so i completely understand why you want to do it at this stage of your life. Good luck whatever you choose to do!

  140. i actually want to die. i cant cope with this place anymore. im just not good enough.

  141. I don’t want to go next year, I want to get a job and work my way up in an office or something similar, I want my boyfriend who lives 3 hours away to do the same. He doesn’t want to. He wants to go to Cambridge and a different Uni if he doesnt get in there. I can’t cope with 3 more years of hardly seeing him and doing something I hate. But, if I get a job I won’t get any time in the holidays to see him cos I will be working. What do I do? Try and get through something that is making me unhappy so that when the years are over things might be better, or give up now? Please help. I can’t stop crying.

  142. hey guys! I studied computer engineering when i was in my early twenties. I was young and ignorant, and pretty well took this course for all the wrong reasons (very “practical” thinking…..i was good at math, and had the potential to get a lucrative job…) I’ve always fancied myself as being on the creative side, so this was not a great choice.

    Well folks, after a year i actually realized what i was getting into, and dropped the f*$# out! It was an extremely demanding course, which i quickly realized i had NO interest in whatsoever. The one redeaming thing about being there was that i actually lived with REAL friends, who were much more cut out for this kinda thing than me (but even with their aptitude, they were a bit down in the dumps!)

    Anyways don’t worry about what over people think of you (easier said than done i realize but…) Life is TOO f#*$ING short, and you really have to learn how to live on your own terms. You’re ADULTS (technically…i still don’t always feel like one…. :) ), and despite what your parents think, THEY’RE not the ones living your life! Yeah obviously uni is a lot of hard work…this is a seperate discussion to becoming a manic depressive individual, who was optitmistic that uni would be more than it actually is. It’s overwhelming doing something that feels completely pointless and understimulating for what…. 3 or 4 years!

    SO onto my life now. I’ve been in Vietnam teaching English for the past 2 years, and have ZERO regrets leaving uni. I’m learning a new language, have been to 5 new countries, and have experienced something that you can’t learn in school. I’ve honestly learned A LOT more here than i ever did in UNI (or high school for that matter.) I’d REALLY recommend giving the ESL teaching gig a try! You can really learn A LOT about yourself, as well as the world. Do a 1 month TEFL (or CELTA) course and pick a place! It’s not for everyone, but you may very well have the time of your life (you may not even wanna come back!)

    Just an option for those who have felt the empty void that CAN BE uni!

  143. oh and one more thing. Have any of you thought of studying online? You can go at your own pace AND can study from home (or anywhere obviously.) There are MANY accredited online uni’s (the idea isn’t so young anymore), and you’ll basically wind up with the same degree as you would from any decent uni (obviously there are certain subjects that can’t be done online.) Not a bad option. No bs social scence (not all cases but some), no lectures, no intimidation from peers or teachers, no waking up at 6:30am etc… and can study at a slooow pace if you’re working….or fast as hell if you have the ambition to tackle 8 courses at a time!) I’ve been doing an online English BA course (not always a practical major, but i’m interested in it (at least 60 per of it) and would eventually like to transfer into teacher’s college and become a “proper” teacher….this means little for most of you uni students i’m guessing…)

  144. Thank you Google!
    I’m so glad that I’m not the only one on Earth feeling the way I have been. I’ve just started uni, moved away from home to a new city, optimistic about making a ton of new friends and enjoying my course.
    It’s been 6 weeks and so far I haven’t made a single proper friend.
    It’s strange. It’s like people don’t WANT to make friends, they only speak to you if they’re made to in some icebreaker activity. I’m so lonely, and I feel like there’s nothing I can really do about it.
    I’m only doing my course in Economics for a year before trying to upgrade to Law but so far it’s really not interesting me, the assessment is stupid because it all has to be done online and the subject matter is boring.
    Every time I hear we have assessment I get a weird little panic attack, like, I can’t breathe properly for a few minutes. Some of my depressive tendencies (self-destructive behaviour that began in my mid-teens) have started to resurface after lying dormant for a year or two.
    So now I’m wondering, is it really worth it? I don’t see a future goal for my life after uni.

  145. Oh by the way, I’m at UQ, so if the other UQ person that was on here before ever returns, I have an idea of how you feel.

  146. This website helps so much

  147. I studied a physics degree for 4 years, I hated every minute of it. I hated studying so much I decided I was not going to be a physicist. Now what, if I get a physics job I will be depressed, if I get a job that doesnt need a degree I will be a clerk for the rest of my life, or option 3 go back to uni and study something that I dont hate yet but soon will.
    Coming to this forum has reminded me how much I hated going to uni,

  148. Migranes, headaches, weight loss, depression and anger and over 30,000 words worth of essays, projects and a dissertation to hand in, in 5 weeks! That’s my final year. Oh and my thesis supervisor has decided to prioritise their own work over helping me. They won’t read anything else I hand in, even though its 50% or my grade for this year and 25% or my total grade! And they may or may not answer any research or essay questions I have…and they know about the stress I’ve been under…I think it’s really cruel and unprofessional

  149. i hate uni A LOT

    I hate university. Every waking moment has to be devoted to studying to maintain a good average, and as a result everything else has to be sacrificed. I dislike all my classes and all the horrid professors teaching them. I’d take something else except I hate the other stuff even more, so I’m stuck studying something I hate the least. But, none the less, I still hate it. I can’t handle this place anymore. I feel I’m just not good enough. That Adam Sandler song is my theme. SOMEBODY KILL ME PLEASE. I’M ON MY KNEES. PRETTY PRETTY PLEASE. KILL MEEEEEEEE I want to DIE

  150. Im sooo glad i found this website, this post started in March of 2004 and its still going one. Makes me feel good that alot of people are in the same boot

    I about to complete my first year in computer science at York Uni and still have 3 miserable years to go . yeppie for me … …………. not !!!

    I hate university for many reasons, for one its not as social as many think. There basically two option 1) Study hard, ignore friends and social life or 2) be social and watch your money go to waste

    Second part. the material you learn is ambiguous. All the theories and nonsense that they force you to learn will never be applied to real life, You future boss will never ask you write a 20 page essay on the origin of life.

    Third, despite the high tuition price tag, the cost of food, books, paper copies and everything in between is expensive compare to the outside . They basically milk you for your money. They know every well that most student are already in debt so hey “why not charge them extra for the hell of it”

    4) University isn’t exactly paradise, its nothing like what you see in the movies, everyone walks about with a sad, chinned down face either because of the many pressure they’re faced with.

    5) the professor are not what we called “user friendly” approaching them for help will only help them remember your name just to fail you on the exam. They don’t want to be bothered during or after class. they’re the last one to enter the room and the first one to leave the room. Thank good for ratemyprof…com for giving us hope on finding that ONE professor who’s willing to help.

    Anyways thank you all for posting your comments, sharing my post with everyone brings me encouragement to continue my loong suffering journey.

  151. I’m so glad I’ve found this site. I’m at york st john university. I’ve been studying for 3 years and I have little over a month to go, my dissertation is due in in 7 days and I just can not seem to do it. I’ve been really, really ill for the past year and a half and it’s knocked me completely off my feet. I hate university so much, I get no help from my tutors even when I’m screaming at them for it. It’s completely ruined my life, destroyed my passion for a subject I used to love (art and textiles) and driven me up the wall. On top of it all I know I’ll be brutally murdered by my parents if I give up now, even though I reckon i’ll probably fail anyway.

  152. i havent posted on here in a while, but i still keep up with it. :)

    today i have finally decided to leave uni, and its the best feeling ever. :D im unsure what im going to do next but its got to be better than university.

    remember guys, we only have one life there is no point in spending it miserable. do what makes you happy.

    i wish all of you the best of luck in life :)

    Akilae

  153. Good luck to you Akilae, that’s a very brave decision you just made. I’m trying to get up the courage to do the same ASAP.

  154. Uni sux!
    The people are heartless, well at least the people in my subject. Agrhh!

    I had an exam at this place which was like a 20 min walk from the uni and I was in a rush and forgot my umbrella.

    So when i was walking towards this place it was ok. But after the exam I walked all the way back to uni without an umbrella. NOT even 1 person offered there one, just for the walk back. All i saw was people walking past me…

    So i was totally soaking wet, plus i have to travel like an 1hr and a bit back hope. Bus, train then walk. Uni sux!!

  155. Arg my uni have moved the exams a month early so i now have half the time to revise which is two weeks not enough, ruined my summer as i will prb have to retake even then they have a limit to which the marks can go to what a joke the lecturers are also if they dont like you they dont help you once again its not what you know but who you know. sucks ass, just texd my gf she coming over to cheer me up

  156. i wanna get wrecked but cant as im at cuntish university and have to do cuntish, wanky essays, that are crap and utterly useless.If this is the sort of information i need for later in life im not looking foward to getting old.
    Fuck it
    Fuck the whole thing!!!!!

  157. i am so very very unhappy in university. i know this year was tough for me for a lot of reasons other then school and so my grades slipped. i was even seeing a councellor. i thought i was doing better but i just found out i failed THREE of my classes. omg. i knew i wasn’t doing well but I didn’t realize it was that bad. i really just don’t know if university was the right choice for me in the first place. it’s so overwhelming to have so many courses going on at the same time. i can’t enjoy any of it! i love learning, i really do. i use to the read the encyclopedia as a kid for fun. i love the satisfaction of teaching myself something new. it’s true, i learn most of my stuff from the textbooks, not the lecture. i’m wondering if maybe i should just take one or two courses a year and start working on paying back my RIDICULOUS student loans. why does education have to be so damn expensive??? i love the idea of getting a degree (i’d be the first in my family to get one), but am i willing to stick it through? can i do this? more importantly, is this what i want? and how in the world does anyone expect to be able to focus on courses when they have to work their ass off to support themselves?!?! OSAP never gives enough to even pay the rent! much less buy food for the year! goddamn monopoly. i feel privleaged to be getting a “higher education” but at the same time I can’t help but feel so spiteful over what i don’t have. i wish i had rich parents like most of the suburbian university students at my school. then i wouldn’t have to worry about making ends meet while memorizing 200 slides for the next exam. i wish i had my mommy or daddy pick up me after class each day and take me home, make me dinner and pay for designer clothes and ipods. god, i’m still wearing clothes i had in high school. okay, okay, i’m done ranting, but it feels good to get out of my system. :o )

  158. Just failed another essay – Uni totally ripped it apart.

    I need to know when to give up…

  159. I’ve just been reading some of the previous comments, and to all the people on here telling us to pull ourselves together, stop moaning, get on with it, or anything else to that effect, what the hell are you doing on this website? If Uni is so wonderful, go and talk about it somewhere else. To all the people that have offered support and understanding, thank you, it is only those people that can appreciate what others are going through, how much they hate Uni, why they hate Uni, and the struggle of what decisions to make in a world that feels totally out of control.

    Everyone’s situation is different, and everyone should do what’s right for them, but only THEY can make that decision for themselves. So please, to the people who think we’re just moaning, don’t patronise us by making out we’re just making a big deal out of nothing. For some people, Uni can push you to something of a suicidal level. And that’s not over-dramatising, that’s HOW IT IS.

    And to those who think being a student is easy, and we don’t know the meaning of hard work, I’d question whether you ever went to Uni. Plus I would just like to point out that I work MORE than full-time to fund this stupid course during my inappropriately named ‘holidays’ – 20-hour days, and still never enough money. So don’t tell me I don’t have any idea of hard work.

    Sorry for the rant, all the people that use this site for the support for which it is intended. Just needed to get that off my chest.

    Thinking of all of you feeling the way I do tonight. x

  160. Hey there,

    Who was that person who also went to UQ? It’s good to find out that there are other people at my uni who feel the same way. I am sure there are many more. It’s a shame that people get so lonely at uni, I don’t know whose fault it is. I try not blame myself because I make honest attempts at making friends, but you are right about people not wanting to make friends at UQ. That is exactly what it is like with me, you try your best and people just seem cold and indifferent. I am sure they got problems too. I wish I knew why it was like that, when you find the cause you can find the solution but I have no idea what causes people to become isolated at places like universities.

  161. Hi I am so pleased I found this site. Reading your comments had really given me peace of mind. I withdrew from uni in December and I have wondered since i it was the right thing to do. Reading what you all have to say has reminded me of why I left and helped me to see how fortunate I am now. I loved studying but hated being a mature student with such diferent priorities and never fitting in. Im doing a degree part time with the Open University now and I loved it. I have a nice little job, not degree related but nice and I can juggle all of this with my family responsiblites. Anyway enough rambling I just wanted to say it takes alot of maturity and self awareness to be able to admit you are unhappy and deal with all of the pressures that you all do on a daily basis. Whatever you decide to do (stay or go) try to remember it is your future and your decision hard as it may be with family pressures etc. Good luck to you all and thank you for posting so honestly it really is great to know that people are sharing similar experiences. For those who do not realise how hard uni can be take a moment to think about your friends at uni. Are they real friends or just poeple you spend time with. Thanks again.

  162. I read all the comments and I can relate to many of them. i study Psychology and found that it is a rather pointless subject as everything is based on theories they can’t prove pretty much. I have three more exams and then I have finished my first year. It went surprisingly quickly. I find that there are lot of fake people at university. They’re more concerned about quantity of friendships rather than quality. I haven’t made any friends on my course at all apart a girl I know from secondary school who I was friends with before. I only see her in lectures though. She gets on really well with her housemates. Me on the otherhand do not in the slightest. They’re intimidating and they like to do pranks on me and shit and I know they talk about me behind my back. I hardly ever go in the kitchen to eat as I’m scared of seeing any of them. I pretty much go hungry all day and creep in there late at night or not at all and just keep food that doesn’t need to be in the freezer/fridge and eat it in my room. Right now I am sick of seeing these same four walls and I can’t wait to go home for summer.

    I hate how things are taught at uni. You hardly have any lectures and its practically a self taught subject, reading loads of books. I can’t see how that could cost three grand. Anyways, due to my lack of motivation to go to lectures due to them being pointless and me being too down to even get up at all so I slept my days away and never read the books. Now I am suffering for it as I know I’ll have to resit my exams. *sigh* I wish I had motivation to do stuff, I really do.

    Uni was really tough until I joined a society. I’m alternative and joined a society for alternative people. At first i thought it would be really cliquey as everyone is the same and won’t like anyone who isn’t a certain way etc. I thought this as I only have one alternative friend back home the rest are “normal” looking or whatever. Back home everyone is different as we grew up together since we were 11 and nobody cared about what each other looked like or was into, we just clicked. I found the society to have people who were quite mature and they didn’t have the fake aquaintance talking bullshit, they actually wanted to know you. I found something to enjoy at uni at last although all the other shit still kept me down. I am quite shy but how i got to make friends in the society was to go to every event and make myself seen and it paid off. I joined other societies but they didn’t work out the same and I don’t go to them anymore.

    I find if you force yourself into a situation you wonldn’t normally like to be in it can sometimes be beneficial. I’m hoping university will be better when I live in a house with people, not who I am neccassarily close to but not the wankerish people I’m with now. I guess what I’m trying to say is if you still have some positive things to say about the university your in try and keep on at it, it may be different next year. Good luck to everyone.

  163. Thank you all so much for your honesty. Your comments have been a true comfort over the past year.

    I posted a while ago, I’ve finally handed in my 30,000 words worth of essays, projects and dissertation. I will make a formal complaint about the way my thesis supervisor treated me so that other students won’t be ditched like that last minute.

    Other than that, I’m just coming to terms with the fact that uni is finally over, 3 years of pain are finished. I’m thankful for the few good friends I made and the uni counsellor who helped me to relieve so much of my stress and anxiety over this past year.

    It was a painful experience but I’m glad that I managed to stick it out because I can move on now and make a real life for myself.

    Am hoping to move abroad to do a fully funded internship for a year and hope to study abroad after that on a scholarship.

    I had to do this initial degree for career reasons and I survived it. I know it may sound melodramatic but trust me these past few years of uni and my life in general as been so full of drama that I can’t wait to move on grow as a person elsewhere and have lots of fun…before I came to uni I used to party and have a great time.

    For those of you who are still in the system, decided if its right for you or not. If not, you could transfer to another course or look into your options.

    It seems as if lots of people take science based subjects when they don’t have a passion for it. Why not consider something related to communication and people skills? This thread is full of people who are excellent communicators why not utilise those skills?

    If it is right for you to stay at uni I highly recommened that you use the counselling services and support groups offered by your uni and do as much as you can to help yourself.

    There are useful online tips as well as books about reading academic texts and writing essays and dissertations, seek them out and try them, they might help.

    Tell your friends and family about the situation, get support and help from them if possible.

    Write a diary and reflect on the situation.

    Join clubs and societies.

    And most of all stay calm, eat well and try and get some sleep, you’ll figure it out.

    Thanks again everyone,
    your comments have truely helped.
    I wish you all the best of luck. And I hope you all enjoy the summer.

    x

  164. Good advice there anon. I’m probably the odd one on this thread as I for one never even made it to university. All I managed to get at A2 was three low A-levels and a U in physics. Alas, those grades have driven me into much depression and they did when I was at college. How an A’s and B’s grade student at GCSE could barely get higher than a C during the A-level courses really perplexed my mind, to the point where I was nearly broken and nothing but a hollow shell. In the end, I stayed at college only because I feared going to work so much.

    Finding this thread really reminds me why this happened. I, as many of you people became sick of the studying and the loneliness, work your butt off in the first year, only to do poorly in the exams anyway and fall into a slump then disillusioned and depressed with the future which failed your idealistic vision. But I feel sad, as many of you deserved to do well far better than I ever did only for the mirror of illusion to shatter, taking your dreams and soul with them, taking far more than my failed dream took from me.

    But there is light at the end of the tunnel you know. I work in an office now, the money is terrible but every evening and weekend the slate is wiped clean for me to spend my time how I wish, if I want to study calculus or read Plato I can do it how I like, when I like and as much as I like. The college I left just last June seems not long ago at all, but also a different era entirely so much so it seems it was nothing but a dream I imagined, I suppose it was as my dreams upon entering were probably not to be, at least not through that route.

    I don’t know if I’ll ever try and redo my A-levels through distance learning, as I still recall how fed up I was of the whole institution and process in my final A level exams. But I still believe, one way or another my dreams can still be fulfilled if I put my mind to it.

    So to those who are rotting inside due to their horrid predicaments, just follow your heart, and with enough determination and enough thought into the right decision, you’ll eventually get to your destination. I hope I’ve been some help, guess this flunker was good for something after all.

  165. Hey it’s not all bad. Sure I hated studying law. No, I hate studying. Period. But I did manage to skip all of my lectures and instead bought a piano and now I’m on Grade 6. So, Uni has been good. It was so dull it pushed me to play piano, something I’ve always wanted to learn but never had the patience to practice. Uni, however, was even more boring so I just swam a lot and played the piano and sat in cafes. Oh yeah I managed to get a 2.1. So you can beat the system. Use your free time to do something enjoyable.

  166. “Use your free time to do something enjoyable”

    Free time? What free time? Oh, the free time that I use to crash out because I feel exhausted nearly all the time.

    Actually, it’s got slightly better in my third term. Mainly because I’ve just stopped caring whether or not I get into my next year. And I’ve started to do things now like ballroom dancing, art, making things and activities that I actually enjoy.

    My grades have almost definitely crashed. But my quality of life has improved. Am thinking of packing it in, even though that would mean packing in The Plan – that’s been around for about seven years.

    It would disappoint everyone I know – possibly myself included. But it isn’t like this is the only chance I get. If I find that a degree is absolutely necessary later on life, doing an open university course sounds like the way forward.

    My tuppence worth, anyway.

  167. Liz, I totally understand where you’re coming from. This year my grades have also crashed spectacularly, pretty much because I’ve stopped caring (not that they were that great before, I just didn’t see the point of working flat-out 24/7 with bugger all reward for my efforts). I’ve started doing stuff I wanna do now, taking time out when I want to, and I feel so much better than when I was putting my heart and soul into Uni.

    Live your life, you only get one and there’s no rehearsals. Enjoy yourself while you can. Don’t let Uni rule you. It’s not worth it. x

  168. I hated living on Campus in my first year, so instead my plan is to live at home and commute to my university. It is a one hour drive away. Do people think this is a stupid idea? There is no way I am living at Uni again so it is either drive the hour there and back for my lectures (about 12 hours per week probably spread over 3/4 days) or quit. I have applied to a London University which would take up to an hour to get there on 2 trains, (but could take as little as 30 mins on a good day) – however, I don’t like this Uni very much and I might not even be able to go there yet as they made specifications about the grades I got in my first year exams. Please people I need some support, I am scared about the driving – will I be able to do it? Anyone know people who do a similar journey? Help…please comment back on this! x x x

  169. Kelly, I think if Uni is important enough to you the drive will be OK, it’s got to be better than living at Uni if it made you so miserable. I know people that drive an hour and back when they are on placements and this suits them better than living away.

    It sounds like Uni is important to you, so maybe try the commute and see how it goes? At least then you will have given it a go. And maybe you will find some new people you might wanna stay or live with at Uni.

    Sorry, that’s probably been no help whatsoever! Hopefully someone who does a similar drive will comment. Good luck with whatever you choose, I’ll think of you. x

  170. Thanks for the comment Carina … :)

    So … results come out next week and it’s basically been hinted at that I’ve failed one paper. The thing is that it’s not as simple as being told “Pack your bags, you’re out” if you fail the first year. My Director of Studies can write a letter of recommendation and that way I can get into next year. The question is, do I want him to do that?

    If I stay: Things could get better, I could be less depressed/stressed and, at the end of it all, I could feel proud of myself for sticking with it.
    If I stay: Things could stay the same, and I could be depressed for the next 2 years and possibly end up failing anyway – Waste of time and money.
    If I leave: I might regret that I didn’t persevere.
    If I leave: I could find some work I find satisfying, albeit lowly paid; I could still get a degree (from the Open University); and I could develop my talents, hobbies, etc.

    Any thoughts?

  171. EMMA u just described me!i cant believe it that u feel and act the same as ive done, i feel so much better that someone else feels exactly the same way about psychology. i also didnt step foot in the kitchen untill i knew no one was there-i resorted to eatin cold beans just so that i didnt have to see the ppl on my hall or go to tesco and get ready made meals that i could eat straight away!its pathetic when i look back but i hated them so much. im also going to have to resit as i failed most of my stats-i never knew there would be so much maths!and ure right about all the theories-what a useless course. im only tryin to stick with it because i still cling to the thought that i actually want to be a clinical psychologist-although this course is making me think twice!hope u see this and know that someone else expereinced exactly what u have!

    katie

  172. I just got my results today and they are excellent, a 2.1! I’m glad I stuck it out and lasted the 3 years. It was really tough and painfull but it was best for me so I stuck with it.

    Before you decide to quit Uni review your options and do as much as you can to better the situation. (See my previous post for some suggestions) Do what’s best for you as an individual.

    Anyway Kelly, I think driving is a great idea. I commuted to college 1.30 hour each way on 3 trains and I managed it. You can do it!

    Thanks for all of your comments, they are a true comfort. Good luck everyone!

  173. Congratulations on your 2:1! It’s so wonderful to hear a success story and know that there is light at the end of the tunnel! I wish you a happy and successful career, and enjoy your newfound freedom and the thought that you never have to go back there again! Well done x :-D

  174. I stuck out three awful, awful years at University. For nothing. The degree has STOPPED me getting work because it’s a useless bit of paper. For five years I’ve either been suffering horribly at Uni or because of it. University has taken my life away and I will never, ever get that back. It’s a disgusting environment full of nasty little bullies who just want to drink, screw and snipe other people.

  175. true true true 2 all u ppl. uni is so shit n wit £3000+ worth of tutuion it makes even harder 2 drop out cos the of money. just finished 1st year at art uni hate everything bout uni. the corse isnt wat is cracks out 2 be, the teachers r fukkin weirdos, n the ppl are just sooo dam fake. everyday ev1 says hi 2 each other n its so fake cos thats it n wantin 2 kno wats marks u have n stuff n comparing every1! and if sumdays u just arent in the mood and arnt grinning like a fake chesire cat ppl persome you are a miserable fag or sum1 has died. every1 is soo bitchy and up there ass it isnt a nice environment 2 be in 5 days a week 9.30 – 500pm with the ‘click groups’ proper brown nosing the teachers! arghhhhhhhhh i suppose it shud be expected on art courses n compettion n stuff but drives me insane. only made 1 friend who dropped out half way through (dont blame her at all).ppl have even stolen my possensions treating ppl awful. cos im from up yorkshire ppl take the mik out of my accent sayin i sound jamican and how yorkshire ppl r poor n scruffs and im supposed 2 sit there n say nothing.now i kno wat 2 expect 4 the nxt year i just dont care anymore just gotta get on with it. i aint a quitter just gotta tell my self 2 more years then im gettin the hell out of here!

  176. i absolutely hate my university hell hole maybe i should of left in my 1st year but thought it would get better, obviously not- but have to stick it out as spent so much money poured into tuition fees/rent and only have a year left. Its been one of the worst decisions of my life had such a miserable time on my fashion and textile course 9-5pm 5 days a week stuck in a studio on the top floor of a hill! The people there are so clicky especially as its all girls and for 1) not getting into halls didnt help as it stopped me making nice friends, 2) Intimidating teachers who act more like bullys by putting you down and told how u r useless in front of 30 peolpe 3) living in a house where knowone gets on 4) expected to do rediculus amounts of work and produce fantastic projects in an horrble environment not even related to what your doing 5) no support and treated like a piece of shit, I can honestly say that i would never go again and that its taken everything out of me, even to the point where i’ve become ill and rundown from the stress , failed a module had a dr’s note to proove it and then told that i have to redo the whole thing again over summer aswell as a dissertation and another project and i seem to be the only one who feels like this, its like your not allowed to have a life outside university what about people who need to work to support their fees?!! And what am i going to get out of it after all this?!

  177. I Hate my course and feel like i have wasted the last two years of my life doing nothing. The worst thing about it is that most, not all there are exceptions, of the lecturers are people who never made it in the real world and have to resort to teaching others. A lot of them are socially inept and drive u insane with the crap they carry on with. I also find it extremely difficult to concentrate on studying because im not enjoying my course but to change course u need to get good marks which equates to study more, its all a load of political waste. I believe if someone has the desire to pursue a course of which they have some experience ie work experience then you have more of a desire to coplete that cousre and therefore should be allowed to change soley based on choice. I Fucking Hate uni

  178. i hate uni too….its so hard to make friends and everyone just cares about themself…so amazingly boring…oh well.

  179. I hated uni so much last year. I was doing a computing course at an annoyingly competitive university. I dropped out in the third term because i couldn’t take the stress any longer and am reapplying to a new uni this year to do an art course, hoping that it will attract a better kind of people. Competitiveness is not a good thing.

  180. I hated the University life. Obviously there were reasons for that. My University was so boring. I never found good parties any thing down there. Students were so bullshit so so bullshit you can not believe it. They never mix with you and even if they want to socialise with you there is something behind that. Some of them were really contemptuous and malevolent. I can’t believe myself that I managed to complete 9 years. For the sake of degrees and for good career I had to do that. It is very hard for the overseas students. I was one of them. You are away from home and it is a different culture. Now every morning when I wake up, I am glad that I managed to survive down there. I mixed so different student from overseas countries they were similar to me miserable, lack of motivation and looking for escape. It was like in Tim Robbin’s the famous movie ‘shawshank redemption’. You know prison life. So sorry for the depressive comments but I just wanted to express myself.

  181. its 5:50 in the morning, i went to bed at 3, so over this feeling of mind numbing tiredness, taken over by copious amounts of caffiene all for the sake of getting a passing grade, so close to goin back to bed right now….fuck uni

  182. The man is keeping us down…

    Every time I get interested in something and go off on a tangent (maybe too creative) I get shit marks.

    It serves to remind me I can do well as long as I prescribe to the marking criteria of whoever is marking. Apparently you save the creativity for your post doctorate work (as honors is a bitch and you just want to get it done).

    By then you’re a part of the system and the man keeps on keeping you down. What happened to the idea of a university that helped the world? It seems to have accelerated things but life is no better, I heard a funny statistic the other day that on average a research article is read 7 times including the mother of the person who wrote it.

    Democracy in education, and allowing people to choose what is important to learn rather than being constricted to rubrics and measuring individual potential is alway overlooked…

    I tried some shit in real life from my course. Turns out in the real world normal people don’t understand recruitment practices or standard operating procedures, succession management etc…

    and why should they? it’s all invented by some guy trying to pass his honors thesis or continuing on the mistake he made in his honours thesis in his post doctoral work.

    Idiots all of them, I’m gonna learn skydiving or that sport where you ski and then shoot some targets for some reason, something more exciting than this shit later just to have the satisfaction of saying I finished and can confirm it is a total and utter load of shit.

  183. Agree with all of the above. University = A waste of time and money that would be better spent travelling and seeing the world. I hate the fact that each course costs about 800$ the textbooks another 200$. Then theres the no good professors who just regurgitate what the textbooks say!! So whats the bloody point of wasting my money travelling to class to listen to something I could just read. I say fight the system!!! Bring down the uni institution

  184. I got in to a London Uni which means I can live at home and commute in on two trains which should not take more than an hour. I am transferring so I will go in to year 2. This is scary for me as I will not know anyone but I am not expecting to make any great friends, I am just glad I have a chance to complete my degree and live at home with my family. My boyfriend is starting Uni too in a couple of weeks. He lives 3 hours away from me but luckily is going to a Uni which is about 1 hour away. This means I will get to see him more than last year. It is hard though because we have been together every day this summer staying at each others houses for weeks and going on holidays. Its been about 3 months together so it will be horrible when we both start Uni and dont get to see each other every day. He has promised we will be together at least 3 nights or more each week though. I should be happy – things seem to have worked out Ok and me and my bf have agreed to live together next year which will make me very happy. I am just scared. I will still miss him and be scared going to Uni. I wish Uni didn’t exist, we would be living together and working by now. I have had no positive experience from Uni, the only good thing will be when I get my degree. x x x x

  185. Down with the man! Get the monkey off my back!

  186. I’m so glad I’ve found this site. I really really hate university living and I’m only a week in. My classes are about to start, so I’m hoping it will get better in that respect, but I absolutely hate living down at university. Despite how childish it probably sounds I miss living with my family, especially my brothers. And I miss my friends.

    My parents have compromised by letting me stay at home, if I commute the hour and a half down to university. I’ve made it clear to them there’s no way I can stay and this is the best they can do, which I appreciate.

    It just seemed like everyone had made friends with each other and I’d been left to get on with it and nobody cared. I was absolutely miserable and have become quite ill.

    I know it sounds stupid with it just being a week down there, but it’s the only option I can really see. If I stick at it I think I’ll just get more and more unhappy.

    I hope somebody out there understands and I’m really hoping commuting will work out.
    I see a few other people have done it or were considering it.
    Did it work out?

    I’d be glad for any input.

    Thanks.

  187. Hi erin, I moved out my university accomodation last year and attempted to commute to and from. However, I was even further away than you are and often a journey could take over two hours! I was missing a lot and not enjoying myself at all. However, I managed to transfer Universities and this year will be going to a Uni much closer to home, about an hour commute, sometimes less.

    I start next week and am very nervous but looking forward to going somewhere where I can come home every night. I must say though – one of the main reasons I did not just give up is because I have a boyfriend who is fairly long distance and although I spend weekends with him, the holidays at Uni are long and with him going to Uni this year too it is important to know we can get lots of time together in the holidays.

    It is not at all silly to be wanting to leave after a week – I was the same and I never got used to it and enjoyed it. People will try and tell you that you havent given it enough time and maybe they will be right but I know for me that it wasnt right and was never going to be.

    How will you be commuting? If it is by train it makes a difference because you can use that time to read etc. thats what I plan to do. If you are driving however, I think this will be harder and possibly quite stressful.

    I am not really sure that Uni is for me, and have told myself that if I hate my new Uni then I will leave and get a job or do a college course or something. It means I loose the holidays with my boyfriend but if I am that unhappy it is what will have to happen. Hopefully though I will get used to it and find it ok. Is there a Uni closer to your home? Maybe you could put up with a longer commte this year and try and transfer next year? I would say though that living away on campus is not for everyone and you will probably be happier commuting.

    Hope I have helped a bit – although probably a bit biased from someone who hates Uni!!

    Kelly x x x

  188. When i first began uni i used to push through my modules regardless of how difficult they were and somehow come out with half decent grades. I used to attend regularly and even go to the campus to study when i didnt have to. I’m now in my 3rd year and now at risk of being thrown out due to repeated failure. I try in every way to find something that will keep me motivated and keep me interested in uni just for the sake of obtaining my degree but that is becoming increasingly difficult to do.

    The other day i forced myself to sit in the foyer on campus and do some study. i managed to complete about half an hours worth before as usual i get zapped by some sort of invisible field that cripples me and destroys my ability to think. I then spent another half hour trying to hold my thoughts together before packing my stuff up and going home. I honestly don’t know if ill be able to make it. This is not how its meant to be, uni life is meant to be joyous and fruitful not like the sensation of drowning.

    All i can do is keep fighting, i sincerely hope that everyone on this site makes it one way or another,

    BJ

  189. back to uni this sunday, ive left it as late as possible to go back. im dreading it!i keep being told that second year will be better than the first, do i beleve them?NO!i really dont want to go back to uni life!!!!

  190. I just stareded Uni down South, I have been here two weeks and I have already given in my resignation… I don’t feel like a failure for it either, although my parents are pretty set on the idea that I am… I got an A in psychology which is what i want to study still at uni even though i have given up on this one. I found the people so cold and depressing that I just couldnt hack it, it was rubbing off on me. I didnt see the point on me staying in a place where all my self-motivation has disapeared.
    I need a fresh start, so the south is over for me. But im pretty confidant that I can start again and get it right this time, in a place where the people and the lectures are for me. Because where i am right now they are rude and cold and empty. Its just not who i am. I am so motivated normally, so confidant in myself, but in two weeks I have been stripped of that, and to me thats just not right, wherever I am and whatever im doing i should know in myself that i can achieve and am capable because i have never had that doubt inmyself before.
    the lonliness here is also unbearable, with lonlieness there is no happiness, it doesnt matter where abouts you are in the world as long as you have friends and are happy
    xxx

  191. Been here a week. Short time you could say, but time goes slowly when you’re so fucking alone. I’ve spoken to people, some even spoke back but this place has made me so empty already. Debating in my head whether to drop out, take the shit from my family, get a minimum wage job and count pay cheques till I kill myself … or just do it now and cut out the trouble.

  192. hi i hate university as hell. i havent studied shit ever since it began 1 year ago and i just barely passed my first lesson without even ever studying, lol

    i hate all the competition and everything and i’ve got better things to do than waste the best years of my life studying :#

  193. Hey everyone, I’m back at Uni for my 4th and FINAL year, literally just got back and start tomorrow (I always leave it as late as possible, too). Dreading being back but can almost see the light at the end of the tunnel, this time next year I will be free of this place forever. I do feel better knowing that it’s my last year. But I just wanted to say hi to all of those people who feel the same as me about Uni, I really am thinking of you, and I hope we can all get through our experiences somehow, whether that means pushing ourselves through Uni, or having the courage to leave and pursue a different path in life. Whatever that may be, remember that the most important thing is YOUR happiness, not everyone else’s. I’m only still here cos I know I need my degree to do my chosen career, and I desperately want to do that career, so it is right for me. But that doesn’t make me hate it any less.

    Thinking of you all, thank you for providing me with so much comfort and encouragement in understanding how I and so many other people feel x

  194. I thought I was all alone, but I’m glad to find other like-minded people!

    Society places WAY too much emphasis on getting a university degree, despite the fact that it makes many people miserable, overworked, exhausted and broke. Making friends is nearly impossible (what with the frustrating amount of conformist jocks and clubbing-kids), getting all the work done requires an unreasonable amount of time (all hours of the day, minus the 5 hours of sleep a night) and the result – at least for people in the arts like me – tends to be an undergraduate degree you can’t do anything with unless you go on to get a graduate, bachelors of education or some other form of extra schooling.

  195. I am at Lancaster university and i absolutely hate it. I am in my forth year, i don’t think i am going to make it through this year. i have lots of friends, and take part in lots of uni activities but i just hate all of it. to all that read this PLEASE for heavens sake avoid Lancaster Uni, the advertising and open days are very inviting but please please avoid unless you like being unhappy.

  196. Oh god i started my first year about a month ago and i just realized that im not a fucking scholar, i hated the copious amounts of reading (4 science courses, each with at least 2 hours of reading a god damned day) +1 hour commute + lectures i barely have time to do jack SHIT and this is only the beggining.

    Man this shit is so pointless whats the point of even attending university, you dont learn shit you only learn how to take shit, fall down, get back up and take even more shit. I’d rather be perpetually inebriated than live as a depressed peice of shit making 100k.

  197. arrggggghhh………i’m so shitting lonely. I hateee university. Everyone’s more interested in getting pissed than anything else….if you don’t like clubbing then ur fucked….no1 wants to know you cos ur ‘boring’.

    Glad there’s at least some ppl out ther feeling the same way I do….I really hate this shit…definitely the unhappiest days of my life, all I wanna do is go back home to my friends and family, but if I do then every1 will look at me as a dropout. If it wasn’t for my PC I would have killed myself by now for sure.

  198. Finally, I’ve found some people in the same situation as me :-)
    I’ve been at Uni for just over 3 weeks now, and i honestly cant stand it. I’ve been ditching lectures left, right and centre cos I’m not in the right frame of mind for education whatsoever. I’m changing my courses but that’s only really to show my family that I’m at least trying to make an effort to stay here. I can see myself being back home by the end of the month (at least i hope so).
    The people here are all so outgoing compared to me – i dont hold that against them; i just find it impossible to talk to them and relate to them. My flatmates all know eachother and get along so well and im just the social outcast who cant even cook!
    i just want to be back home with my real friends where i feel happy and comfortable.
    Now how do i go about dropping out of this hellhole?!

  199. I hate Uni. There is no way around that, I go everyday to be looked down upon by snobby students and talked down to be lecturers who think they are to far above them to even notice that they have students. Add to that the work which feels that it has been taped onto the course with no relevance or regard to the time you need to spend doing it. This is my first year of Uni and as it draws to close I find it impossible in my mind to even consider coming back next year to this place with its ridiculous rules and stupid organization. Changing courses didn’t help me as the university administration stuffed up my change so now I find out I’ve wasted half a year doing subjects I cannot sit an exams for. People here are not friendly; they seem to think that they can make their own time more bearable by making others time more unbearable. I know it sounds like I am complaining but its not so much complaining as stating the facts of it. I’m glad to know that I’m not the only one who hates Uni and the ridiculous notion that we need to get ourselves a piece of paper to prove how smart we are to rest of the world. Good Luck to every one else on here, I hope you can either fight through it or find a better way.

  200. hi everyone well ive been back just over a week and guess what its just as bad as my first year. im so bored i got up at half seven and came to the computer room this am. the lectures are the same (lecturer reading powerpoint). the people are all the same just want to get pissed. the only thing i enjoy here is playing football.i cant wait to go home this thurs for the weekend although i know i will find it dam hard making myself come back.its going to be another crap year but im glad ive got you guys on this site making me feel as though what im going through is normal and that im not some freak just because i think uni is hell!!!!!

  201. I do find it the most miserable place. Atleast when i was working i felt sedated by the earnings. And now, looking out from both paths, all options seem a snare. Even now, with 2 weeks till completion, i wish to leave it more then ever. All I have to say is: How ugly it all is.

  202. Uni is terrible. Lectures are irrelevant bullshit with so many pointless assignments and extra classes. Not worth the pay cheque the degree ‘might’ get you. Surrounded by so many people, and I’ve never felt so alone before in my life. There are people i know well enough here, but they’re not my real friends; I just feel empty around them. I feel closer to the people on this site than anyone i can touch right now.

  203. uni sucks i agree the people are nobs, all on crack and smack urgh!!!!!!! and jmu is the most unorganised uni everrr!!!!!!

  204. This is all very reassuring. I’m finding it incredibly difficult being at uni and it’s depressing when I look around me and everyone’s having fun. Most people seem to have formed their own little cliques already and I’m completely uninspired by my course and my surroundings, despite the fact I’m in a beautiful city. I keep returning home for the comfort and the familiarity and I can honestly say I have never felt so alone as I do here at university.

  205. Brendon Negenman

    University is really dragging me down I am in my third year for a geophysics major and i am regretting going into this field just because of money. It just always feels like your never good enough and its just a bunch of hoops you haveto jump through that you will rarely use when your working.

    I am a musician as well, I think i would be happier playing my guitar on the corner making money then going to classes and studying bullshit 24/7..

  206. Life changing experience… my ass!! Am at uni in London. The place is a fucking asylum. Arrogant pricks, unhelpful staff. As for the social side ha! What a joke, more like social apartheid.

  207. Wow. I’m really sick of uni. :/ I don’t drink therefore I don’t have an active social life (which is cool since I’ve got a bunch of friends I knew before uni anyway) and the whole time at uni no one gives a shit. I haven’t talked to anyone that I didn’t know from highschool. Once. I mean in my final year of high school I was extremely motivated and getting up to all kinds of stuff even staying at classes longer to finish projects because I actually LIKED the work. At Uni i’m a fricking unmotivated slob,I have no desire to stay at the place

  208. Miss Anne Thrope

    I hate every moment of my existence here. There has to be another way.

  209. Its odd for me,I love the course I do English Lit and its my undying passion. Buts its life outside of lectures paradoxly I despise. My flatmates judge my lifestyle constantly and are a bunch of prigs who go bloody silent and bitch if I appear to be having a good time. The go on and on constantly about how many hours they work part time and how little cash the seem to have,want some advise??? Don’t buy shit you don;t need every day, and futher more if I want “piss my money away” then guess what I fucking will. So they are not hyper socilites with a dive for life,so what just wish they would not have a go at mer for being that way.bloody tossers.rant over

  210. and by dive I mean “drive”, go I am so terrible at typing lol

  211. hmmm so I moved unis a few weeks ago, and I must say I much prefer where I am now… but unfortunatly I am not the happiest chappy of the bunch…. hence the fact that I am back on this web page. I don’t know what it is exactly about uni that I don’t like. I mean… I had to write my first essay the other day… it had nothing to do with anything… I have exams every 2 weeks and each time I can’t help but feel a large competition going on between the people I talk to. Some of them are stuck up… others are down right lazy… I don’t understnad where this whole concept of uni being the best years of your life came from?
    What made it worse was when I went home.. my step mum is there stating how easy uni life is (shes never been), how easy the work is… how I’m lucky I’m there because well its simply a way to delay having to do anything with your life and hide from the responisiblity of work. Well I wanted to kil her… I was not happy… I am still not happy, although much better than my other uni as I already said. I had like a panic attack when I realsed that there is a whole other semester after this one that I have to get myself through. I have literally been counting down the days to when It is x-mas time. And I mean, I go home every single Thursday and come back every Sunday… If I didn’t have that to look forward to… I don’t know what I would be doing with myself right now. I would definatly not be here still… it would most def have been a gap year by now… I just can’t see myself here for the next 3 years.
    x

  212. Have posted before, when I was utterly depressed, and was going to drop out after my first year, because I couldn’t cope with the work.

    I didn’t drop out. And things *have* got better since coming back.

    I’ve been getting counselling – I recommend it, especially if there’s a counselling service attached to the university. They’re paid to listen to you vent a little steam, and they’re able to help you too. As great as this site is for finding like-minded people, we’re all down the same hole, and can’t pull each other out, so we need someone from outside who can.

    I just wanted to say that, contrary to all my expectations, there is hope, after all.

  213. wow thank you all for feeling the same way as i am. it seems like everyone is doing great and making tons of friends or have their own group. It’s my first year in uni and I’m the only one out of all my friends to go to uni so I’m basically by myself. I didnt think it would be this lonely, i was so excited to make new friends and meet new people. University has definately been less than what I anticipated.

  214. AR GGG YESS!! in my head- today i shall quit, stop !!! flee from uni. flee from the idea of that piece of fucking paper that will apparently aid you in your search for the good life. bull shit. no i shall work, i shall travel i shall learn, i shall live i shall be on my own, i shall meet people, i shall learn a language, i shall find out what is inside of me, i shall read, i shall stuggle. i shall be free…… in my head.. where is the strangth to leave.. mid youth crisis … hmmmm

  215. let things go naturally. be strong and optimistic. anyone can survive university. it’s only 5 year. at least for me. i only study little cause i’m not a scholar person. and i know that the things i memorize will not help me in life. if it wasn’t for my family, i’d start working after high school. just do two part time jobs and you’d make more than most people. or go to college and learn something useful and specific. university is just a game. but you won’t die without a degree. but no matter how hard things get, i’d force myself to finish this degree.

  216. damn, i made a post about a year ago and this thread is still moving along… nice to see the endless struggle of university.

    my thought of university is still the same from my previous post. University sucks, I find it a complete waste of time. All these research, assignment and reading 30+ page a day for each course is completely useless. None of these material will aid me to my career. Screw university and the stupid paper and we all strive soo hard to earn.

    but i dont wanna be a loser who dropped out. the struggle must continue. there must be hope somewhere … ( pot and strip clubs does it for me)

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
    feels looks letting out my frustration anonymous

  217. I am about to receive my degree over an 11 year span, having left school to work full time for about 5 years. Three different colleges in two different states(I’m in the US). College sucked when I first started, and it sucked just as much during my last semester, 11 years later. What a scam. I largely self financed my “education” through long hours at dead end jobs, under a belief I had developed (fed to me by parents, counselors, and adult friends) that having a degree was vitally necessary, even to the point that it was impossible and immoral to exist as an adult without a degree! What a bunch of bullshit! That garbage is mostly on on my parents. But I believed it. Tens of thousands of dollars and 150 credit hours later all I’m left with is impractical knowledge, massive debt, a piece of paper, and a dull headache that never goes away. The satisfaction of feeding information into my brain for exams and then repeating the process hundreds of times across a wide variety of irrelevant subjects is Imitigated by the realization that I’ve been funding the comfortable upper class lives of the profs and administrators with money I busted my ass in dead end jobs to accumulate. Sounds like an enforced poverty scheme to me, yet one which has overwhelming societal support and enthusiasm.

    The world of work isn’t anything to get excited about either. You get to deal with cynical college educated assholes like me, every day! What a fucking nightmare! But at least you’re not paying to participate! At least as a human with material needs you are provided the financial mechanism of a paycheck to pay your rent, feed yourself, something all people should have the right to pursue without the self serving interference of appointed sages pushing their institution for their own material benefit.

    My life would be better today if I’d spent my youth as an illiterate and became a garbage man. That assertion can be demonstrated as fact. Forgettting the financial aspect, at least in the blue collar world I would have developed the self respect which goes along with adult self sufficiency. As to the profs and support staff who make a comfortable living from excessive tuition amounts many students go through real hardships to generate, those thieves can rot as far as I’m concerned. Fuck them.

    My bitter opinions won’t change anything, blowing up every university in the universe past/present/future won’t do a damn thing to the entrenched attitudes of the circus ringleaders, at least until a more intelligent life form comes along. No one will ever stop the momentum of society, despite what those greedy, self serving university assholes spew about intelligence and leadership.

  218. I hate university. I am so glad there are others who feel the same. Everything I have read here gives vindicates my hatred.

    In respect of making friends, it usually takes me a long time, and I think everybody else as well, but university has created the ridiculous idea that friendships are formed within the first two weeks of starting, and that somehow you’re going to find all these people who you’ve been told about that are ‘just like you’ at a pyjama pub crawl or an 80′s theme disco. The falsehood sickens me. It’s ironic that those who feel alienated by this are branded ‘anti-social’, when where in society is this a n acceptable form of making proper friends?

    I’m in the process of deciding whether or not to stay or to go. I agree with an earlier post which said university is just a place for social stratification. I know if I stay it won’t be bad forever, but only because I would have been broken down so much as that I wouldn’t care anymore.

    Leaving university and breaking out of years of social conditioning is one of the bravest things anyone would have to do in life. I really do respect anyone who have left and pursued something that they really want to do and that means something to them.

  219. OK,

    first of all, thank god someone strated this up, because its bloody nice to know theres other people in the same place as you. i cant fucking stand it here at university, its the most indifferent, mind numbing experience of my life. surely we’re all asking the same question though in our heads? WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? im a musician and id love to leave, so, so much, but it really dosent seem like theres any alternative. some of you others must feel like this? how do you get out? im tied up with money constraints, a lack of trust in music colleges, lack of anywhere else to live, etc. What do i do? i know this is a bit of a shot in the dark, posting this up on the net, hoping someone sees and can be bothered to voice an opinion, but ive thought A LOT about this, and have exhausted directions to turn in my head. does anyone have ANYTHING to say about this?

  220. My first instinct is to say go and put all your energy into what you love and in to what will make you happy rather than stay on and have any energy and youthful zeal drained. I wish I had the courage, but my family are giving me a bit of a hard time about it.

  221. cheers mary,
    i know what i should do but it seems theres something at every turn stopping you. Its so ingrained into society that this is what you should do, there’s hardly an alternative. to you i might say that it’s your life at the end of the day, so you need to do what you want, not what someone else wants, no matter how close they are to you. however, i know that saying and doing are two different worlds, and advice is easy to give. what would you do otherwise?

  222. It’s true, it seems your whole educational life has been a build up to this. But no one tells you how awful it is in reality.

    You’re right when you say saying is one thing, and doing is another. There’s always going to be ‘what ifs’ because we shall be going out into an uncertain ground, not advocated by teachers and parents and all those old figures of authority.

    Thanks for the advice ben, I’d like to be an assitant librarian actually, just have a pretty simple life!

  223. Hey, you’s should see if your university will allow you to defer a year and keep your place, so you have something to fall back on if you change your mind. However, I think you have to have medical back up.

  224. Hi guys, it’s nice to see other people who dont think UNI is great! I’m in my 2nd year of computer networks and i hate it! I’m going to drop out tomoz its shit

  225. University is a fuckin bastard! God. I don’t even know where I start. I dropped out of my first year because I was so unhappy and didn’t have the mindset. I became a fuckin carpenter – which was my ultimate dream. But because they’ve been building less houses around my city, I couldn’t make enough money and I had to move back with my parents. And every fuckin shithead around me was telling me how in the end you need a fuckin degree. Now I’m back in school, trying to finish my first year courses and I’m more fucked up than before! I don’t even have the time to have a fuckin drink because I’m so fucked up studying for shit that I cannot remember for the life of me. Fuck I want to burn the school down.

  226. I hate university because I hate authority. I never knew this about myself until I entered this insititution and gave my life up to a few old white men. I cannot stand the idea of other people deciding my future. I cant stand the way were all just suppose to be stupid little sheep doing what other people want, taking courses that will not benefit us in our future careers (go science go – life cycle of a fly anyone) and always having to try harder than that fool whose still so bright eyed and keen, they still try and care and are determined to do better than u and so u have to sell more of ur soul to do better than them. I hate University. I hate hate hate hate hate university. And what I hate most is its plain not fair. They dont reward merit, they dont give a shit what courses u took, they dont care that some people played the system for everything its worth to get where they are (and hence, theyre so bright eyed and keen, since everyone else did everything else for them) Im trying to get into med by the way and once upon a time i wanted to be a doctor beacuse i wanted to help people, i wanted to make a difference. Now, I just wanna be in a position where i can fire profs. I want cash. cold hard cash. I am so sick of this life sucking place.

  227. I dont know what to do.

    I do like university life as in going out and meeting new people, I find my course interesting although a little hard going.

    However….my flatmates are not what i imagined. No-one, apart from a rly lovely girl, is sociable. I cant stand the lonliness of my room in the day.

    Do i move?…but what if its the same there?
    Do i leave?…and regret it perhaps?
    Stick it out?….with the possibility of misery?
    Do i defer?….what if its the same next year?

    i wish it was fine from the beginning. I know i can be happy here…it’s just the luck of the draw who you get. But its ruining my time here, i dont want to look back and remember that i spent whats supposed to be one of the best years of my life…in tears.

  228. NEVER go to UNISA (south Australia)

    They are corrupt, overcrowded and don’t care about you or your studies.

    They mislead so many people and are pretty much a PR (permenant residency) factory for chinese, indians, africans, arabs, persians and others. The uni is 40% international and this actually inhibits anything, because they don’t socialize, are prioritized, can’t speak english properly and compete for jobs (casual which theya ren’t many of)

    It costs so much too.

    Th uni lied to me about assumed knowledge. basically there was no mention of maths assumed knowledge and thus i failed repeatedly and as never offered help, even when i asked!

    Infact the lecturer told me “i can’t help you and i don’t need to”

    Yeah great.

    Univeristy in Australia is focused on money and staus, nothing else. I’ve seen very intelligent people quit, even when they are doing well due to money and other reasons (predominantly at UNISA).

    So remmebr don’t go to UNISA (UNISgAy)

    Also i hope everyone in this thread whi isn’t enjoying UNI finds a way ot a place to make them happy and succeed.

    Best of wishes

  229. youcanhavemylunch

    Basically if you want to leave… LEAVE.
    It’s all just bullshit. You pay £3000+ for them to give you a reading list – thanks! that’s dead kind. If you’re interested in something then you might as well just go to the library and get a book save everyone’s time and money. Plus no one at uni is interested in learning anyway so even if you do all the pointless and dull reading you go to seminars and everyone sits in silence because none of them have
    even looked at the reading. And lectures are quite possibly the most boring invention EVER.

    I only went in the first place because i didn’t have a plan for what else to do and everyone expected me to go. So partly that i was fault but i am still pissed off that i spent a year sitting around saying i don’t want to go to university and no one ever said do something else then they all said yes, you do want to go.

    So i lasted 8 weeks if you count freshers and reading week. And it was the most boring time i have ever spend in my entire life. Students drink, and that’s it. They don’t do any work they do do anything else just drink and if you don’t then don’t even bother. It took me one day to realise that so i don’t know why i even bothered staying but i thought maybe learning something would be interesting… it wasn’t you have to learn about so much shit you’re not interested and by the time you’ve done that you have no time or inclination to do anything that does interest you = serious depression.

    So i am completely for dropping out. Sure I’m sitting at home with no idea what to do now but at least it’s not costing me huge amounts of wasted time and money to do that. Anyway if everyone has a degree it doesn’t mean anything anymore.

    O and read the Teenage Liberation Handbook… it doesn’t matter that it’s about school or if you’re not a teenager but it’s nice to have someone tell you in book form that you’re not a complete failure for dropping out of the institutionalism and bullshit

  230. Thomas Clements

    I’m about half of the way through my first semester and I’m already contemplating throwing in the towel. I’ve always enjoyed learning, debating and being curious about things but the notion of university just seems to render this pointless. Recently, I’ve just found myself churning out work and asssignments and doing it all exactly to exam board specification, there doesen’t seem to be any room for creativity or independence, as I was led to believe. My interest in the subject is rapidly declining and my course grades are becoming alarmingly poor but at the moment I couldn’t give a damn, as all I want is out. Students’ attitudes and behaviour also stink, so much unjustifiable vanity, arrogance and rudeness, it’s actually soul destroying for decent and modest human beings like me. Since attending university, my self-esteem has gone down, I feel drained, lethargic, depressed and misanthropic. If university is the basis for a soundly built civil society, I can only despair.
    The dilemma, as is inevitably the case, is the stigma of being a college drop-out and not obtaining a degree, ergo throwing away your ambition. However, I think somebody has to be defiant in this world and realise that having a degree does not make you a better person or any more committed.

  231. well i found this website a year ago andi thank god everyday that i did because listenen to everyone else expereince the same shit as me has made me feel like im not a complete loser!im in my 2nd year and i think ive finally made a decision to QUIT!people kept telling me this year woulld be different.well it isnt!its the same old crap everyday with the same loser students who get pissed evryday.i hate this lifestyle!i have no idea how to tell my family that im quiting though….they will be so disapointed!!!

  232. you guys are my type of people! I’m a student in toronto, canada. I find it miserable to go to Ryerson university and its only my first year! The reason why it sucks is because of many factors. most of these faggots aren’t here to study! They bring their cell phones to class and let them ring during the lecture. Their prescense irritates me. If i want to ask the prof a question, I’ve got to rethink the question to make myself sound smart and say it casually or I would seeing dozens of heads turning my way. Most of these kids are too immature for their age! the professors are all ESL’s from a different part of the world. They cannot explain shit to save their lives let alone give us an education. Its more or less heavy text book reading that saves ur ass. There really isn’t anything fun about the lectures and labs. It makes me feel like my vision of science and beauty was wrong. my program is costing me so much money, money that I earned with my own hard work yet disappearing like quicksand. Is there anybody going to my university? give me a nudge cause maybe we can find motivation from each other.

  233. Been reading all of your comments and it’s a comfort to see others going through the same thing I am. I’m only doing a foundation year since my linked degree required experience in areas which I had never done before. The first week or two went fine until I quickly started to realize that my lecturers (most of them) were all morons! I have a Chinese guy teaching me maths, now no disrespect to race but his accent is so heavy it’s almost impossible to understand what he’s saying.

    Next up is my programming teacher and what a wank he is. You guessed it! Another twat who has an accent as heavy as a naval ship. Can barely understand this twit, what’s more on one of the lab sessions he said

    “If you need any help, raise your hand and I’ll do what I can”

    I know sounds nice doesn’t it? Well I did just that and asked him to help me out on a problem I was having, now bare in mind I have NO programming experience and this foundation year factored that even those with little to no programming skill would be able to learn at a steady rate. So anyways when I ask for help he says to me,

    “Sorry you have to do that yourself”

    So hold the phone, before he said if you have any problems he’ll do his best to help and now he says I need to do it myself. I’m all for independence and learning on my own but throw me a bone here I’m new to this you pompous schmuck.

    I even have lecturers who don’t turn because they say and I quote “Oh I thought the lecture was an hour early”

    The degree I wanted to do was computer game tech. I fucking worked like a mule but it’s out of my league so I’m considering changing my course though almost 2 months have passed and even if I did find something chances are I wouldn’t be able to join it.

    I sent and E-mail to head of the foundation department and placed all my worries and feelings into. I even had counseling since University has had me feeling suicidal and whats even worse is my parents used the grant and the loan I recieved because frankly my family financially is not doing well so I wanted to help them out.

    So to break it down

    1) University sucks
    2) The lecturers are incompetent who don’t give a shite about their students nor about what their teaching.
    3) The so called ‘help’ they provide is nothing more than a sugar coated “Suck it up and do it yourself your old enough to take care of it on your own”
    4) I will most likely be in debt
    5) Start to break down mentally
    6) Die

    For anyone who read ALL of this I thank you with all my being. At least someone heard me out properly, hope life deals you a nice hand.

    -Wasif Asif-

  234. well i finally did it and told uni were they can go.im offically out of that hell hole that was supposed to giv me the best years of my life.what aload of crap is all i can say.im working part time at the mo and applying for the police in january-i cant believe i actually quit.im still numb and confused by the whole dam expereience.i giv full credit to all u guys who are sticking it out-i couldnt do it any longer i was making myself ill i was unbelievable depressed and i realised IT WASNT WORTH IT!wasif i can totally sympathise with you, i to had lecturers who were from all over the world and found it dam hard to understand a word of what they were trying to ‘teach’. I had a spanish woman trying to teach us stats this year-why oh why would anyone think this would be a good idea!?!god dam it employ some teachers with english accents!!!!i just wana say good luck to everone and thanks for listenin to me rant on for the past year and a half!kx

  235. I say – well done to those who have the guts to leave. I’m in my third year of a Philosophy degree and have only just rediscovered learning…all by myself. University’s are awful institutions. Lectures are dull, you’re adding £4k a year to your debt to read about 7 books per year. I’ve learnt more in the past 6 months reading about things that interest me (Popper, Dawkins, Pinker, Foucault) than I have done in any lecture/seminar. If you’re thinking about getting out – GET OUT! I regret not leaving when I still could. My mind is screwed up and I have huge mood swings. If you complain of depression they stick you straight on tablets just to get you through the course. Most of the lecturers (most) are arrogant and look down on all but the few. There’s no room for creativity, and no room to flourish. Something’s wrong when an institution for learning and wisdom does not allow you to deviate even slightly from any exam specification/essay outline. It’s stupid, it’s numbing, it’s turned me into a depressed alcoholic, and I’m so glad I found this long list of people like me!
    If you’re thinking of getting out – get out. Grow some balls (or if you’re a woman…some…weird growths) and get the hell out before it eats away at your life and you become another drone. Meanwhile, I can’t afford to drop out…so…looks like I’ll be working on my dissertation tonight. That started off interesting. Before my ‘dis. tutor’ told me what I had to write.
    Bloody hell…

  236. I have just been reading some of these posts and have to FULL HEARTEDLY DISAGREE with people saying that if they would have chosen an art degree then their so called “unique creativity” would be nourished and that they would be happier. What a load of bollocks. I am in the supposedly “best” university for my course in Europe (so they always say). I am at Central Saint Martins. There are over 170 people on my course. It is ridiculously over-stretched. A lot of the people there that I have met seem to be so far up their own arses it is a joke. Art school is not one big drawing session. It is not free-spirited either. It is fiercely competitive and expensive and just the same as a more academic university, very restricted. You do not have free reign.

    Urg! I cannot get across how much I hate the place and how disillusioned it has made me feel. I thought I was going there to learn skills, the tricks of the design trade, but I am constantly told that even though I have pade over £3000 for my education, I have to go learn everything at home! Why pay to go there then. A BA is just a money making racket. My tutors even say so themselves. There is no value. Everything I will learn will be on my own time. I will be leaving shortly, not because I am a drop-out, but I refuse to feel victimised by the system. “Oh you must have a degree”… Every Tom, Dick and Harry has one nowadays, I would rather live life. 15 out of my 19years have been in education, I’m going to start learning things my own way, that way there is only myself to blame and I doubt I will have as much as I would if I stayed on this hamster wheel of a life path.

  237. paid*

  238. SO good to find I’m not alone. I have to say my undergrad degree was a blast but I decided to do my Masters in London, what a f**king shock. My Uni has just been ranked no 9 in the world and I have no idea why. I’m paying a lot of money and what do I get? Spoken to like sh*t, professors who think they’re God’s gift, people on the course who are so far up their own backsides just cos they have a degree that they can’t see daylight.
    The professors are so lazy, they dish out ridiculous amounts of reading cos they can’t be bothered to do any work. They may all think they’re superbrains (if you can recycling someone else’s work and putting it into your own words brains) but they have no concept of the real world in their little academic bubble. I can’t be myself at this Uni and that’s not what it’s meant to be about – it’s supposed to open your mind to thinking and experimenting with ideas (depending on your degree) in new ways not indoctrinating you into THEIR way of doing things.
    All I can say for all those people on here who feel that they don;t fit in at Uni for any reason, most of the great people in history who have ever done anything meaningful and had a real impact on the world were people who were misunderstood and felt that somehow they didn’t fit in with the society they lived in.

  239. No, you’re most definitely not alone. London University for me has been the biggest myth! It is just as bad as a University up north. People thinking they’re above others because they go to a London University, pah! If you have any sense, don’t come here!

  240. Anyone from Canada (Ontario) here? … because university here sucks too!!

    Getting my degree (software engineering) is like jail-time for four-five years…

    Lectures are boring, professors are insane, classmates + friends are fake-ish…

  241. I came to university with a real passion for learning and since I read the brochures I was so excited about going. It seemed that from this point on life would be so simple, it seemed like all that I would have to do was study and learn and work a little, although being a student would be my first priority. I have a good family life and when I left school I had a few, but very trusting friends. But I was so short sighted and dead wrong. University sucks, that’s it in a nutshell. It sucks because I expected the wrong things. I wouldn’t go on to say that I hate everyone there, although there is the significant minority of complete douche bags of both genders of course. There is this huge majority that I have absolutely nothing in common with. I have nothing in common with any of them, no one. Socializing with them just completely drains me, it sucks me dry of my energy, I just can’t handle study after a day at university, I hate it so much. In my country, Australia, if your idea of having a good time does not involve getting completely ‘wasted’ (i.e. severely intoxicated) and wasting your money, health and time while doing it, then there must be something unusual about you and no one will want to socialize with you, in fact no one will give a god damn shit about you. You will be a god damn loner, and that kind of stress is just ruining me, I thought during the summer holidays I’d get a break of it all, but so far it doesn’t look promising. I am just trying to keep people away from me, not by being rude, but I am just trying so hard to disassociate myself from so many people because I just can’t get on with them. I can be polite to them but in the end I don’t like what they like, I don’t laugh at what they laugh at, I am not involved in pop culture, I don’t watch TV so I never have a god damn clue what group conversations are about, I am just on the side, I don’t participate. I feel more like a prop, just some guy that stands on the side and says things like “wow?”, “damn” and “that is whack.”, (kind of like the token black guy, but white.)

    I was introverted to start with but being at university has just made me even more so, and on one hand it feels alright because I am on my side and I do things more effectively when I do them alone, on the other hand I hate it, because I just become self centered and reclusive. I just don’t know what to do, I am really missing something. I just can’t click with anyone and last time I did they had to move away so I don’t see this good friend anymore, it’s such a shame, he was the only person I really had things in common with, everyone else is just a materialistic douche bag. I just wish there was nothing more to university than study, I wish it was just study on your own, sit the exam then study some more. I wouldn’t have a problem with that. But universities are just like assembly lines, knowledge factories, no deviations from the formula, no curiosity, no creativity, just rote learning and intellectual numbness. I hate it, I hate waking up to it, I hate the fact that I don’t have an alternative, I just hate my life, even though on the outside it may seem I have no reason to be miserable.

  242. yeah its nice to hear that other people share my dislike for student life and univeristy. Its crap. I am studying art history at Goldsmiths in London and its SO PRETENTIOUS!!! WHY WHY WHY??? why do people have to be like that? up there own arses, so stuck up, so stupid, thinking they are better then others?

    I cant wait to finish my degree, at this boring Univeristy. I havent got many friends there- i tried but its just not me.

    Studying art in London.. is fake and unless you know people, wear designer clothes and go to all ‘cool’ places you wont go very far… and there is much more to life that doing that pretentious crap!! good luck!

  243. Hey Paulina,

    Have you got Facebook or something? I’m at CSM and it is exactly the same, people thinking they can have an attitude with the tutors for no reason whatsoever.

    I don’t think I am going to carry on with my degree, why bother? pay all that money for something that isn’t special at all. It’s not all money, more the thought of those vulgar idiots on the course having the same degree and I think in the art world, there is no escaping those imbeciles!

    xx

  244. Hey Morning Crack,
    It’s the same in the UK. But do you know what else? They’re sheep.The other day the clicky group on my course all followed each other out of the room in 2 minute intervals to sit in the corridor and talk, drink, read their newspapers whilst a few of us were left watching this documentary. At least you are an individual and not some clone. Out of interest anyone else go to UCL?

  245. Hey LSH,

    nope, UAL, but it’s just the same, actually, it’s probably worse… ‘art students’!

  246. Morning Crack,

    I’ve been where you are man. I know how you feel just by reading your words. I really feel you. On the outside it may seem like you have no reason to be so miserable and unhappy because you are living the life that society and maybe the people around you have structured and created for you, and you’re simply just playing it all out. This happens first on an energetic level on the inner planes, and then manifests on the outer plane (here, now). You have to start remembering what it is that is truly in your heart and soul and what you truly want out of life: what would make you want to get up every morning? Listen man, I don’t know if you have any religious beliefs or any other beliefs that might block this out but give it a shot anyways try this site http://www.theheavenproject.net this is the best advice I could give you right now

  247. MBS i totally agree with you you’re right on the money man

  248. What a hypocrite you are Mike!

    With all your talk of “WE have to take action. WE ARE the generation that has to take action”… If University is so awful for you and you do speak about it with such hatred, why don’t YOU leave?

    Because you like to believe that you are above it all. Use your “inner intelligence” and leave, instead of trying to persuade others to.

    I started reading your post and thought you were pretty admirable, until I got to your ‘P.s.’

    There is an excellent saying… ‘Practice what you preach’.

  249. Well, it looks like we have established the fact that university is an anti-climax. You can look at all these people that have dropped out of university and made success, but they are a very small minority. The fact is, that graduates, on average, get paid more people without degrees. Although at the end of the day, money doesnt make you happy, but more money will probably make you more likely to be happy. If you’re gonna do a career afterwards that has nothing to do with the degree, thinking that it is pointless, then you don’t get the whole picture. A degree (unfortunately in todays society) proves intelligence and to get further in life you have got to have one, even if it has nothing to do with the career. Degrees make promotions and money. Its extremely sad that society has come to this, but that is the world today and you can’t do anything about it.

    (Wow, students have a hard life, a bit of reading, some essays, a few lectures and then the whole summer of doing absolutely nothing- compared to maybe people in africa starving with no healthcare etc. where everyday is a struggle to live. An we are complaining about a few lecturers, inability to make friends and a hard life?!? Its time to have a look at yourself and how lucky you are to have opportunities to do anything at all.)

    I suppose people won’t like what I have written but its the truth. I hate university as much as anyone and sympathise with everyone on this site. But remember that its only for a few years and “if you’re going through hell, keep going”.

  250. HA! University ‘proves intelligence’, what a joke! They let anybody who can (and cannot for that matter hence student loans) pay the fee’s on to a University.

  251. university course*

  252. Yelir,

    I can see where you are coming from, but i totally disagree. You are like a really rational guy who thinks that we must settle for this and we have no power to change things. Imagine if all the greats like Gandhi or Martin Luther King (I dont feel like listing the so many people but there are so many and probably many we dont know about) for example would of been thinking the same way you are…

    Like I said, its good to step outside the box sometimes, and see things from a higher perspective. Of course more money is good, and yes it is true university graduates get paid more. I agree man I wanna be loaded OFF MY ASS too. But that is still a part of the system. You’re just zooming in on a small part of the system. I’m saying get outside the system, find your purpose your passion and your drive, and surely you will, in the process, become wealthier than any university education can provide. No, im not a living example of this YET, but I swear to god ill come back to these forums in 5 years and prove it to you. You sound like someone smart who is just “accepting” things because thats what seems like the “easy path”, but thats the system man. It is.

    You sympathize with everyone…I can feel the coldness there man, really. You sound like a shitty teacher or some blind system business guy or something “Oh yes well of course lets express our human emotions but the reality is we just brush it off harden up and push through and live our purposeless lives and make money so we can survive and maybe feel some emotions in the process but ignore everything else and do the whole routine then die”…Thats what theyre saying theyre lying to themselves. What are you doing on this planet, try to think of it man. Just Passing through? What are you in purgatory or something. Think harder, feel deeper, reflect go inside man. (im not telling you what to do, im just saying you know…)
    Oh and chances are if you hate school like you say you do, I dont think youre life will get any better once you graduate. Thing is we hate school cuz its part of the system, and the system is all about emotional instability, ups and downs, high and low and so much stress because we arent doing the things we love in an environment we love at all times. How could you just “accept it” and “push-through” your life in one of the “safe make you feel like your comfortable outlets” the system provides (a salary) as a remedy to the chaos they create? Its like beauty…lets make people feel shitty and ugly so we can create cosmetics and make them feel beautiful. Yes I know they are ugly to begin with and the cosmetics to make them hotter sometimes (a few beers wouldn’t hurt either) but again it all comes down to the reality we have created for ourselves. Look at humanity just look at what we’ve created. It may seem like I’m attacking you, but honestly I would just love to hear your answer…how does your reasoning provide you with enough drive and energy to wake up in the morning and do what you do? Again i feel like this sounds like an attack, but I just want to hear your answer, maybe even you need to hear your own answer.

    Anyways ill be glad to leave these comments open to interpretation whether positive or negative, because for everything i write id love to justify everything from all the many possible angles but I just cant do that id have to write a book on the forum, so ill keenly wait for peoples replies on certain and specific aspects of my comments so i can further elaborate and explain my perspectives and opinions.

  253. one last comment you said:

    Its time to have a look at yourself and how lucky you are to have opportunities to do anything at all.)

    EXACTLY. SO START DOING SOMETHING PURPOSEFUL. LIVING COMFORTABLY UNTIL YOU DIE IS NOT PURPOSEFUL. SEIZE YOUR OPPORTUNITIES AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE. And i dont think you need to sacrifice anything in the process, i think you can gain more that you can imagine in the process. if you care so much about those starving, then what are your plans on making a difference? Who says at the end of your life you wont die and be reborn as one of those africans because really you were just “passing through” this lifetime and never really accomplished anything except for the material things you acquired and left behind anyways, REGARDLESS of what your beliefs are.

  254. What I’m saying is that university is a stepping stone to some places that only a degree can get you to. That’s life; and you can read your 1984, watch your Matrix and complain about the “system” all you want but you can’t change it. . (What you were saying reminded me of the Matrix film (so in a simile kind of way) in which there are two types of people, those that fight and those who conform and I would argue that the conformists are happier than the rebels).
    How many Gandhi’s and Martin Luther King’s do you know. It just isn’t possible to do anything about it. Yes, there are these 1 in a million people, but I am not one of them, if you want to do that, become a politician or something. You’re just going to be unhappy fighting for a lost cause, what’s wrong with getting a decent job, earning a decent salary, living by the sea, eating and drinking the best stuff, being with friends and family, surfing, drinking, sleeping etc. That’s what I want in life and I’m going to get it in the end. So that’s why I get up every morning to lectures etc.
    I’m completely content with the “system”, there’s just a few aspects of life here that I don’t like e.g. very hard essays and people who I live with that I have to share kitchens/bathrooms with who I don’t particularly like etc. I’m sure I would be happier to live with people I like and finding the work less hard, but you just gotta take the ups with the downs.
    Spending the rest of your life fighting isn’t worth it, just make a few changes and you’ll be happier, maybe quitting university, maybe stop thinking that the “system” is what’s wrong with your world.

  255. Personally Mike, I think you are deeply confused. I disagree with you on so many things that you posted however I am not going to post a 1000 word reply. I am more to the point.

    However, I should choose my words more wisely in the future. When I mentioned that your post was admirable, I meant that there was slight admiration for you when I thought that you had had some backbone and left University, after saying how unhappy you were. I state NOT for the sheer amount of waffle you posted (or should I say preached?), that gave the impression of someone quite unhinged and brainwashed.

  256. Yelir,

    I totally understand your point of view, and it makes alot of sense. I too want and will have a top notch lifestyle, whether I pursue a University degree or not and I’m glad you want the same thing and I hope you get it all and more. The truth is, I guess it cannot be described unless to those who can intuitively understand it…it is something that goes beyond material wealth and physical health. I respect that. Although, for the record, I must disagree with your statement that it is a “Lost Cause”. Challenging and would take unimaginable effort and work yes, lost cause, no. That is what you have been led to believe (I think). I am aware that it’s not “the system” that is wrong with “my world” since my perception of reality is that it is merely a reflection of what’s going on inside me. But to ignore the sad state things are in is foolish, and to do nothing about it except enjoy your material acquisitions for the time being is in MY OPINION purposeless.

    MBS, I don’t really care whether you disagree with me or not. You obviously don’t have all the answers to life, or else you wouldn’t be here wining about how much you hate the institution but still accept it no matter how much it torments you (because you don’t have the balls to leave) and just attack people who are suggesting things outside of your set of beliefs that keep you safe in your little world. Although I’m always open to argument, you seem to be more keen on attacking those with different opinions. Just because you do not understand my point of view, it does not mean I am brainwashed and you are “sane”. I’m probably more successful (in terms of the way you measure it anyways) than you are right now, and I know what brainwash is. I think it is you who are brain washed, as it is obvious you are suffering and are very narrow minded, and can’t see a way out of something you hate. I won’t even get started on that because then you’ll have to read another 1000 post of which importance does not outweigh what you have to read for tomorrow’s class anyways. And do not call me a preacher as it was totally uncalled for and I clearly stated that I express personal opinions and points of view open to discussion and argument, as I don’t believe that I have all the answers or “know it all”. Besides, what do you think your teachers are doing every lecture? Just because it is wide spread and commonly accepted, does not mean it is not preaching. But that might be too “deep” for your limited understanding anyways so this conversation ends here.

  257. Mike, get a life. You have labelled me with such stereotypes, for you to claim to be open minded is beggar’s belief. This is an internet forum discussing University life, I will not venture in anything or than this on here. You have no understanding as you have very obviously misinterpreted my posts on every level and have just come to your own conclusions. Which is fair enough, but will get you no where in life, only where you are now, a sad and bitter being.

    Good Day.

  258. Oh my gosh! I think someone oughta call a Doctor for mike over there.

  259. yer mike man, calm down its only a forum blud. uni is da shizzle i ain’t got no beef with ma lecturers innit. reppin’ Manchester Met! wuh wuh.

  260. I wish I could have gone to university! The turmoil is a small price to pay as we forget that we have perhaps gone through worse. Remember GCSEs where we had to AT ANY COST get good grades. Remembering how you survived and how you made it through university will make you so much stronger a person for adulthood.

    By the way Mike, you really need to calm down. I know because I was once where you are now. I drove myself to the brink of insanity in trying to find a purpose in life and in existence. Then it became obvious that there was NO purpose in life, society has been built on people who made a purpose for themselves, who chose to make a purpose. No purpose or a purpose, both are very strong choices and they are both entirely your call. Mike, if you’re really serious, then you need to think rationally and carefully on what you’re doing. Don’t save humanity by destroying society, save humanity by helping society. You’ll end up killing someone if you don’t slow down.

    On another note, I would suggest you stick with university, no matter how bad it is. Remember, its just 3-5 years of your life, a small price to pay if it helps you later and helps you become totally independent and confident of your strengths. But also remember that you need strength to walk away if you really need to.

    As for me, when I can finally sort out my poor E grades from A-Level I will try my hand at university and hopefully have a less tragic time than you poor folks. My sympathies for all you have all been through.

  261. Blimey, this thread’s been going for 3 and a half years..

    Yeah I hate uni too. I’m in my 4th year and I’ve gradually become an exhausted hunchback recluse.
    I was irresponsible in the first couple of years (money, skipping lectures etc), arguably because I felt so shit I was constantly looking for short-term ways to feel better (‘I’ll just miss this lecture cos then I won’t have to talk to anyone….’). Anyway, I’m paying for it now. I’m totally the source of my own problems, not uni, and I really want to deal with it and become a person that I like. It’s just uni makes it pretty much impossible to do anything about it:

    How can you keep up decent relationships when you are too exhausted to string a sentence together? How can you become less exhausted when you have a shitty diet and hardly get any sleep? How can you eat when you’ve maxed out your overdraft? How can you earn any money when you don’t have any free time? How can you feel good about yourself when you have to sponge off your parents? How can you do any decent work when you’re trying to scrape your way out of all these other situations?

    5 months to go.

  262. Ok, then mike, I think you’ve proved just what kind of unhinged and brainwashed being you are now.

    Anyway… I know the feeling chio, it’s the same way I feel. I keep skipping lectures but I know it’s just going to back fire and come back on me in the end…

  263. Hmm it seems mikes’ posts have set this discourse away on a tangent far removed from the original objective of grumbling about UNi in its pure and simple form. Delusional, half-baked overly theoretical, conspiracy theory crap.

    Anyway, I posted a year ago now I think and my original bitter cynicism of University (History Degree in the UK) has subsided considerably after I’ve rethought everything and got myself a girlfriend (enormous morale boost).

    However, a lot still remains about University that I still cannot grasp:
    I pay 1000 pounds a term for my course and I only recieve for that money 2 hours of contact time (a seminar) per week. PER WEEK! Effectively therefore I’m paying for a 3 grand library card a year. Furthermore, these seminars seem to be a forum in which all the arrogant, conceited, pretentious, soulless robots get to blather on about what THEY think on whatever tangent THEY want to go on whilst I need to learn how to answer my exam essay questions next term! I don’t want to discuss in a group! I want to be taught precisely what to do! I think sometimes the facade of independent learning is a cop out excuse for not instructing us more thoroughly. It doesn’t make sense to me that we grow up through school under the culture of being assigned homework and then doing it within a pretty rigid set of constraints relative to what I’m doing now, and yet once you arrive at Uni, and get given an essay title and nothing else, it’s like throwing you to the lions! You haven’t been educated to produce amazing degree standard stuff on your own, you’ve been educated to jump through hoops on cue. Anyway, it doesn’t matter. I just need to do what needs to be done and that’s that. Plenty of time to muse about the unjustness of it when my degree is long gone.

    More silly introverted musings from me later I’m sure. Disgruntled students of the world, rebels/lazy bohemians/stressed/friendless/ overworked, all of you students alike, keep the faith.

    Lee

  264. I’m going to ignore the recent tangent, as I got excited by the posts at the top and wanted to comment.

    I’m coming up to xmas hols after 12 weeks at uni, and the fact that I, like all the above, typed in “I hate Uni” on google should give you a clue as to what I feel like.

    I had a brilliant time in sixth form -had a great set of friends, enjoyed the work, and really liked the person I felt I was becoming. Now it seems like all of that has been cut off, and that I am turning into a shell of who I used to be.

    I was never the best person at making friends, but I never thought in my worst nightmares that I would find myself utterly friendless, and yet here I sit. Although I have forced myself to be friendly, I really have nothing in common with most of my classmates, whose main interests seem to be getting pissed. As the main subject of conversation between them is how pissed they got at whichever club, I am increasingly feeling like an outsider, to the extent of dreading to go in at all. Even worse is that people I initially made a connection with, and thought were becoming my friends, are acting like the more popular people in order to fit in, and not trying to form a relationship with the boring loner.

    Anyone who tells me to “make an effort to fit in” is essentially telling me to not be myself, though I should stress that I’m not nearly as much of an arsehole as my way of writing would suggest. It’s just that getting smashed out of my head every weekend is not what I want to do with my time (and money), and because i’m not willing to pretend otherwise, I’m on my own.

    All this is really grueling because at my old school, I was fairly popular. Perhaps it was just a case of being a big fish in a small pond, because my personality definitely hasn’t carried over to my new life. But it is heart rending to meet my old friends and be treated like I was still the great person I used to be, knowing full well that the next day I’d go right back to being a nobody.

    Even more troubling is that, although my work is being marked as very good, I feel deep down that it is of poor quality. Although I want to do well, I find it difficult to derive any satisfaction from praise for work that I think doesn’t deserve it. It seems like I’m not learning anything other than how to pander to what my teachers expect.

    Worst of all, I’m terrified that my new misery-guts personality will effect the relationships that I already have, particularly with my girlfriend. I am finding it harder to talk to my old friends, and feel like I am boring them. My constant stress and tiredness is starting to seep through into the time spent with my girlfriend, and I can sense it becoming less enjoyable for her to be with me. I can only hope that xmas will give me the opportunity to get back to the happy state of mind I was once in.

    Sorry to bore you with all that crap, I just had to get it off my chest. I don’t dare tell my family that I’m not liking it, and it felt so good (in a dark sort of way) to see that so many people feel exactly like me. Let’s all of us meet up and solve the problem of friendlessness.

    p.s. After reading through my post, I thought I should make it clear that I am not an arsehole in real life. Please beleive me.

  265. Chalk me into the group that hates university (which is majority of the people here). Highschool was 10 times better than this shit. Not only do I need to throw away my social life to get decent marks, I’m getting pressured by my parents to do well, and most of the shit I’m learning has nothing to do with the program I applied for. Not to mention that engineering is a total sausage fest and most of the profs don’t have any clue how to teach undergraduate students.

  266. So you hate uni? This is how to beat the system. I went to Birmingham university for the total wrong reasons, didnt want to get left behind, retake my shoddy alevels, or disappoint my family. So off i went. I HATED IT. it was everything uni life should not have been. I was stuck with the biggest dickhead students in my flat, and uni life was dull and uninspiring. So after month i decided to appy to other higher institions whilst continuing on at birmingham uni temperoraly. I have recieved two offers already. Its now xmas holidays and im about to leave shitty birmingham and work to go travelling knowing that i have the option of going to better uni’s when i return. Things are looking up! Just dont get stuck, its not worth it seriously these are the best years of your life. I know it sounds hard to stand up to your parents. But heck if i can tell my parents i changed my degree course and now am changing uni’s anyone can. Its not that bad. Take control. Get mad and do it. Hope ive been of help. TH.

  267. Some guy earlier on said that no matter how much you work your ass of it just doesn’t count. You’ve got to document your research. Research, research ad nauseum, no ideas or opinions of your own. Uni is a self perpetuating mediocracy.

  268. kill me please

    i hate university so much and want to leave. i am studying acturial sciences and its so strssful. i just feel like packing my bags and leaving everyday, but am afraid that society will see me as a failure. i have attempted to commit suicide 4 times and have failed. i really dont know what to do. please someone help me.i am so glad i found this site, where people understand me.

  269. Some one should start a forum.
    I am computer illeterate really so don’t know how to.

    If any one hdoes or there already is post it here.

  270. I am at University but I do not understand the referencing and how you are supposed to argue in an assignment. You are too apprehensive to write anything in case you get caught plagiarism-it is a load of nonsence bu I will stick to it as I am sick of being in a dead end job.

  271. While I can’t say that my lecturers are bad, on the contrary, they’re very good and we’re having about 30 hours of lectures every week + tutorials, it’s too much of “the good stuff”, i.e. we don’t get any personal space to pursuit friends or other areas of the program; streamlined and standardized is good when it comes to churning out books in a press, food from a machine, advertising for hollywood-movies, but I came to university thinking it would be a life altering experience, really in a lot more ways than it’s been, with departmental cooperation and knowledge sharing aiming to broaden perspective and mind!

  272. not to be repetative but i completely agree with what everyone is saying, it’s like u all read my mind!!! i’ve always had friends before but when i came to uni it felt like i was some kind of lepper. My course is completely uninspiring and the subject i once loved leaves me cold. I miss my boyfriend constantly, but when i tell him i want to leave and go abroad he even tells me not to. I feel trapped, doomed to live the next 4 years miserable in order to make others happy. Every sisngle person in my year at school went to uni, the idea of not going was laughable. It’s hard to break free from that. Insane or what….

  273. Thank Christ for this thread, I was starting to feel like I was the only one who hated university. I used to watch history shows on TV and talk to my friends about history all the time but uni’s just killed that. I hate history now. College was so good, I had a close-knit group of friends, time to myself and didn’t have to work every second of my life. Uni’s changed that completely. What fuckwit decided to tell the world that uni was the best time of your life where all you had to do was dick around for 3 years and earn money at the end of it? It’s not fucking true.

    I cried every day during my first term and I can’t see it getting any better. My Mum started off being very understanding, but now I’m suddenly in the wrong whenever I say I don’t want to be there – she just says ‘it can’t be that bad, belt up’. My girlfriend can’t stand seeing me sad but I just can’t pick myself up no matter how hard I try. I now work 50-hour weeks, have exactly zero friends and miss my girlfriend constantly. The work is pointless and stupidly difficult. How am I meant to learn with ONE contact hour a week which does nothing but tell me why I was ‘incorrect in my assumptions’ in my last essay and give me the title for the next pile of uninspired regurgitated drivel I’m expected to punch-out like some clapping cymbal-monkey?

    And no, I can’t leave. My family and girlfriend would disown me if I did. This is one-chance Oxford, where supposedly dreams are made through a perfect education. Fuck that shit, I don’t want to spend my days hearing about how rich the kid next to me’s daddy is or why Oxford is the best fucking city in the world. I’ve never met such small-minded and elitist twats. I just hope I never turn into one of them. Speaking to employers also brings up the soul-crushing fact that an Oxford degree is worth fuck-all more than a degree from KCL or LSE. So why the fuck am I here? My own mistake I guess – I got sucked in by all the bullshit remarks pumped out at me like “Yeah, there’s some work to do, but you’ll totally have time to do other really fun stuff!”. I should have gone to London but hindsight’s fucking 20/20 isn’t it.

    I don’t want to do this anymore. Nothing makes me happy. I’ve got this constant burning feeling in my chest. I’ve lost everything that made my life perfect to have it replaced with everything I hate. No degree can be worth this.

  274. Weyyheyy!!! A fuckload of people who share my sentiments!

    No fucking wonder Prince Harry’s girlfriend left this pisshole of a city. Depressing weather, depressing people, and the fake facade of an up-and-coming vibrant cosmopolitan hub. BULLSHIT. Fucking find myself sat more and more in my room poring over internet pages trying to kill time between handing in essays and being woken up at 3am by the droning monotonous sound of my one-dimensional blockmates.

    Bring on the end of a chorish 3 years.

  275. wow I wish I could find someone at my uni who felt this way too! I’m so unhappy here but stick with it because it’s a good uni and my parents put me through public schooling to get me far in life. But honestly I’m looking for accommodation off-campus for next year and can barely find people to share with…anyone been in this situation and what the hell did you do if so, because I feel totally screwed right now.

  276. i hate uni too! its so good to see some people are in the same boat as me. I don’t see the whole point of lectures if they bloody give us reading lists and expects us to read them all rather than to rely on the lecture notes. What is the whole point of lecturing why can’t they just give us what we suppose to read rather than telling us to ‘discover’ what we are suppose to learn. They stupid lectures only want us to suffer, probably cuz they had a low, sad and depressing life themself and want us to go through it too! another theing if education is about discovery then we should be allowed all the time in the world to do an essay, but, hey presto we have deadlines to fufil – so what the heck forget about personal opinion or let alone discovery, plagerise instead. i hope a uni lecturer reads this blog and learn a few lesson from it, whereby if they really want there students to learn they should be more wiling to share information rather than conceal it and if they want to conceal the info then the should give us the whole time to discover it! the paradox lies in where you have to discover info but in a restricted time!! Hence the system needs to get there priorities sorted.

  277. Hey everybody, listen to this ,,” i was so happy after finishing high school . oh God I’m gonna be going to University soon !!!”
    It’s just a dream when you’re 18 years old …
    well ..then i apply .. and now i’m a university student . i started feeling frustrated ever since i took my first steps into the registration unit . hey fish !!!, ( a fuckin’ employee would call you) .., how can i help you ? …they never do their job well !!!

    Nowadays , I’m a senior student .. and guess what ? that first feeling has always kept my company !!!
    all i’m thinking about right now is how to get that ugly fat ass professor to believe me when i say … sorry .. i was late because i was sick !!! …….. while trying to hide the real reason which is all about me getting laid the night before !!!! LOL

  278. Nothing in life seems to have any intrinsic meaning anymore; everything is just in your face, shallow and meaningless. The relationships I have with people are shallow, the people are shallow, I just can’t relate to them, I can’t feel what they feel because from my perception they don’t feel anything worth feeling. They feel instant gratification, excess, avarice, gluttony, physical pleasure, sweet short term euphoria, and the desire to perpetuate all of this, they see no end to it. I see that pathway as being devoid of true happiness and that is why I reject it. I want to see an end to something, I want to know what happens, I want peace, serenity, freedom from desire, freedom from excess, genuine relationships with people based on mutual and most importantly unconditional trust. Except for the last point, all of the aforementioned seems to stand in stark opposition to what other people generally value and that is something that I can’t deal with, I am just not compatible with those people because we differ in values. I don’t like our culture of over consumption, it makes me sick and disgusted in a non-self righteous way, it’s just something that I keep to myself, but the rejection of these cultural values, in the form of abstinence, frugality, simple living leaves me feeling marginalized, powerless, alienated, and different, from other people and ultimately in a psychological mess. Probably one of the major reasons I abstain from excess is not so much because of the real meaninglessness of consuming desires, but more so to do with the fact that such a lavish lifestyle comes at a ridiculous high price and when I weigh out the advantages and disadvantages I realize it is a price I am very unwilling to pay. The most obvious price is money, but I spend little money because I have little money. The reason I don’t have so much money in my bank is because I don’t work a lot, the reason I don’t work a lot is because I think it is soul destroying, it degrades me on a spiritual level. Any job a person my age does is almost always a drudge, a meaningless waste of time spent tending to the desires (not the needs) of ungrateful, gluttonous pigs. I can’t do it, it’s just when I think about the state of the world right now there seems to be more important matters that need attention rather than serving some fat ass another beer.

    Well, what does this have to do with university? Well university is the context in which this is all taking place, university is the time in my life that I realized things were not as they seem, people were not as they seemed, values were not as they seemed, life is not as it seemed and now I am broken, I am bitter and lethargic about it all. I can carry on in the hopes that this will end, I hope to emigrate, well maybe delusional but it keeps me hanging on and hopeful. If anyone feels this way too please make yourself known, if anyone has advice then I would love to hear it because I need it. Well thanks for reading yet another post on how much life sucks.

  279. I think pretty much everyone here feels that way ;) We all typed “I hate university”.
    My only advice is get some sort of hobby that you enjoy – preferably one that could earn money, for when you finish uni.

  280. …and it goes without saying that if you hate university – the so called Best Days of Your Life (like all parts of the education system seem to be labelled) – then you’re against all that other soul destroying stuff mentioned.

    Abstaining from those things sadly seems to require abstaining from people. Most people anyway. I wish I knew some people at my Uni who also hated it (and the general uni culture).

  281. University has finally defeated me, yeah I’m dropping out, but let’s have none of this ‘oh you’ll end up a failure’ crap. My parents are completely ok with this, and are looking at alternatives for me, such as other colleges, where I can expand my interests into organics or permaculture. Screw this capital ideal of ‘the business world’, let’s not become slaves to this grinding mill and do something meaningful to help others, or at least yourself.
    I’m so sick of the self serving culture nowadays, it’s shite, all these cretins who can afford to come to university WITHOUT having to take out a loan, funded by ‘mummy’ and ‘paparrr’, but who lack the most basic understandings of everyday life, then are plonked into some chairman position at BigCorp, having done fuck-all work to get there can all spin on it until it bored through their shallow little brains! WAAAAAAGH!

    Aaaah rant over. That feels pretty good.

  282. I hope everyone who hates their universities gets through their program safely and ends up having a degree. Trust me, without the degree 95% of people end up doing slave labor among stupid lowlifes for the rest of their life. If you’re a gifted businessperson and can start your own company or if you have a real talent for art, you might not need a university–but otherwise… you better try to like it.

    I hated universities all my life (let’s just say my parents were university profs and I hate them too). I hate universities now. All of them. However, at the age of mid-30s, I had to go back and right now trying to complete my BS in computer science.

    Yes, universities are, primarily, instruments of social control, oppression, conformism, abuse such as sexual and racial harassment–and, like someone had said above, of class stratification. They are the tools used by society and governments to package plastic people who will be ready to become corporate units, rivets in the machine of consumer society. Most of the professors at universities are snotty, abusive idiots, who belong in community service facilities.
    As much as I hate schools, however, after I had endured long years of slave work doing hourly jobs, in conditions harmful for my health, sometimes, I feel like completing my degree and seeking professional employment.

  283. PS to my previous post.. in response to “Matt”–
    I agree with your thoughts.. I think you’re definitely on the way to serenity and peace already :) I find that Oriental philosophies have a lot of answers to questions like you’ve asked. We often lack the spiritual component in lives: that makes everything appear empty.

    I feel you shouldn’t worry about shallowness of your relations, or stupidity of your customers, or consumer ways of the modern society—because human nature is primitive and life will always be flawed and tainted by mundane stuff. I think that the enlightened person will always be alone, in a sense. (I’m Goth, and feel alone even in Goth community–but still happy) Yes, being free from desires is very liberating–for me, that included being free from desire or need for relationships as well, because I came to believe that all relationships are shallow in nature. If one is to meet a true friend, this happens rarely and by the will of fate, we can’t force it.

    I think that true art, which is set apart from consumption culture can be an answer to a lot of things. Giving good part of my time to art, I am free from worries about the society’s ways, even though I have to endure the daily drudgery.

    I am not sure why the life of abstinence makes you feel marginalized and powerless… It should make you feel powerful as you’re not a slave to the desires most people are slaves to. Feeling different shouldn’t be a bad feeling as well… (ok, may be as a Goth I’m used to feeling different and as I also am a part of Goth community I don’t feel that isolated.. but it’s better be isolated than be the way the majority of people are, I find the way they live and their interests to be sickening)

    Our soul is killed by material things, by the need to fight for survival and make money… It’s a curse upon a human being, we just have to find a way to endure it in the best way we can, because, there’re no way out of it. A lot of money will not give anyone freedom or empowerment. I knew people whose parents were multi-millionaires but these people were empty, depressed and suicidal all the time. The only way out of a mentally messed-up state is within ourselves… I agree with all those who said that work destroys something within us, but I guess, again, it’s a curse upon humankind, just like the time–every day–destroys something in us, etc–if you really hate your job, just keep changing jobs until you find one where you’re more comfortable and less miserable and devote your spare time to something you love, that excites you, be it a go-go dancing at a fetish club or volunteer work with the needy or praying at a Buddhist temple!

    I

  284. i agree with the person above overconsumption greedy selfish and fake. i hate uni life,the people are rude fake and shallow,for instance i walk by this fake blonde bitch in the hallway while she’s outside someone ‘s door saying ‘awww how are you x ,heard u were poorly,feel better!’ then turns to me and gives me this sour dirty look,like wtf?? would it not be easier to say hi!!?? i couldn’t care less whether these kind of people like me or not,it’s when u are on the outside like i am at uni,that u see what people are really like,how fake it all is,i’d rather be on my own than talk to a bunch of fake wannab’s .

  285. I never knew there were so many.. “unhappy” undergraduates in the UK. That’s one big load off my mind. I thought I was the only one that had “issues”. I’ve been here for 5 years (as undergrad) and covered two degree courses in HOPE of getting some form of higher education. The learning is TOTALLY different to that of GCSE or A’ level. I don’t like this style. I liked it when I got 8A*’s and 2A’s for GCSE, not now when I get 38% for assignments (3rd year) and by-the-skin-of-my-teeth pass for 2nd year in Computer Science.
    Would I go so far as to say I “hate” university? I know this much – it isn’t for everyone. And for these people that DO go, they really will find it torture. During my years here, I found one word described this place pretty well: “Incarseration”. A prison for the quasi-intelligent.
    Pretty much everything you guys have already mentioned I have been through here and have observed. The people are very accurately portrayed. Students are indeed, as a whole, a binge-drinking, loud, immature fake-in-your-face species. Only a few are actually genuine.
    Depression, insecurity, loneliness. Some of these factors are still with me today. I’m in my last year and have 4 months 20 days 9 hours to go before I can wave goodbye to this place. It’s safe to say I CAN’T WAIT to get out.
    What has kept me going? I joined an archery club at my uni in my 2nd year. It has kept me sane. It has given me proper friends – not some of these single-dimensional false ones that think it’s cool to speak posh even though they’re a chav from Bolton (nothing against people from Bolton.. I’m a brummy myself). As a result of hard work, I have earnt myself 4th place ranking, teetering close to 3rd, in the UK for all university leagues and hold the league record. I found something I was good at! The only thing is after winning a big match I have to go back to the thing I’m not so good at. OK, “not so good” is an exaggeration. I am TERRIBLE at my degree. I’ve been through half of one before and I was TERRIBLE at that. I have come to realise there is no point in worrying or getting upset over how WELL you do at university. You will inevitably make yourself ill mentally and physically (I lost 3 stone in the first few months when I started uni for the first time). Just get THROUGH it. Do stuff you enjoy, work a little bit to keep lecturers borderline happy.. job done. You walk out of uni with some sort of degree, but you’re sane because you’ve done something else while you were there. I don’t know how you guys can cope with a degree without something positive to distract you. I would, quite simply, be in a world of shit if I didn’t have archery.
    I took the time to do a coaching course and I can make £20 an hour teaching archery to beginners. I have the ability to talk to large groups of people. I can help organise and run a club. These are the kind of properties that an interviewer is looking for, not just a big fat juicy “BSc First Hons” on your CV. Life’s too short to live life unhappily. To those who have contributed to this (enormous) thread, I wish you all the best of luck, I really do mean that. You are certainly not alone, and yes, given the chance I would love to blow up my university too. I am proud that you can have the courage to stand out from the crowd and state, what is, the obvious to most who stay at uni (but who are far too scared themselves to even think it).
    NEVER worry about what other people think. You have control over your own life. And these few years are only a fraction of what is to come. You’re at uni because you know it’s the right thing to do, even though it’s ridiculus and you have no friends. Screw them all. Screw them all to hell. Live life alone, you don’t need these bastards. Concentrate on making ONE true close friend. That is all you need.
    Make an effort with work, because a degree isn’t served to you on a plate: even though at THE PRICE WE’RE PAYING IT SHOULD BE!
    And just think, every day you are that bit closer to freedom. That little bit closer to being released into the real world, where.. GUESS WHAT? You’re gonna have the time of your life.

  286. I am extremely annoyed at University. I have been here for 1 semester and it is way too dragging. I live at home still and have a ton of non-uni mates who I see 4 or 5 times a week. The problem for me is that I have found 4 good people to sit and chat to during my lessons but they are simply never in and skive a lot. I would love it if these people showed up everyday so I would have someone to talk to. It is awkward to come into a room, see nobody you really can sit with and end up either sitting by yourself or sitting with people who you never usually talk to.

    People seem to have made friends so quickly and love uni. I just hate the akwardness of not being able to talk to someone. The most awkward times are during breaks which can range from 20mins to 2hr 30min. Usually I can go home for the long ones or meet up with my non-uni mates for lunch. But sometimes when there is nobody to go to lunch with it is quite depressing to say the least.

    Now my second semester has started and I am just hoping the few people I enjoy sitting with come back and improve their attendance!

    I guess I am extremely lucky to be able to still have a large group of non-uni friends who I can see nearly everyday of the week. No matter how shit some of Uni can be, I usually always have something to look forward to, wether it is lunch with a few pals or heading down to the pub on a Friday night with the usuals.

    I can safely say that I would NOT have survived in halls.

    Good luck to all of you at uni!

  287. I had high hopes about university. i loved my degree course, loved the thought of what lay ahead for me here .. freedom, like minded people, etc. i got what i wanted regards to an interesting course but the ppl I’ve meet have been absolute fucking retards. I’ve never had to deal with so much shit in my whole fucking life & because of it Im leaving. I dont want to go but I have no choice. Back to my crappy small town, but at least I’ll be away from stupid pretentious student FUCKERS.

  288. Right on Anonymouse, that is exactly how I feel. You can really enjoy something but when you are surrounded by superficial pretentious douche bags, it’s hard to stand alone and it’s only a matter of time before the tearing and wearing breaks you down. I am approaching that stage sooner than I thought. Well, all the best. I am sure it is at least a relief to be away from all the crap you come across at a typical uni these days, it shouldn’t be an American teen flick but unfortunately it is.

  289. SO do u give up your dream of becoming a zoologist because of these idiot students who make u feel like shit and an alien? i sit in my room everyday and cry,it’s so depressing i feel so excluded,i HATE my housemates SO much,how can they make someone feel like this,feel so alone and excluded,I passed my idiot housemates last night on the hall,they were on their way out to a club,i had tears in my eyes,and all they did was give me a dirty look,they would never ask are you ok?,no,i just feel so alone and want to cry,i sit in my room all day ,i may be shy and quiet,but is that a crime? i hate it here,i feel like such a loser,people from my home(ireland) say i’m a really funny person,but knowone hear will even give me a chance to talk,they give you these filthy looks,i’m thinking,why would you do that,how can you make someone feel like that without feeeling any guilt? whats SO wrong with me?

  290. Most likely nothing is wrong with you, you have probably heard this before but in this case I think I can see that the problem lies with your house mates, they got problems. I am not so different to you in that I don’t go clubbing, I am quiet and shy, I sometimes spend days on end in my room completely alone and of course I hate it, but I have completely given up on other people because in general I find uni students are pretentious, narcissistic, anti-social, superficial, boring, over confident douche bags, and the ones that have the most pride always seem to be the ones who are least able to justify it and that is probably their biggest problem. But really, don’t get caught up in that crap, don’t even think about it, just let it be, let them rot in their own avarice and conceit. If becoming a zoologist is your dream, then don’t forget that dream and stay with it, it can be hard being alone but personally I find that if I acknowledge that genuine people are a rare blessing then I also realize that what other people are doing or saying just becomes immaterial. If you are so lonely, try joining a club, maybe you won’t make instant friends, but it will definitely ease the pain of alienation. I joined Judo, and there is no one there that I have become really close friends with, but they are friendly, and they are there, they offer some degree of association so I don’t feel that lonely, I feel that at least these are people out there on the horizon that I know. So I don’t know you, but that is just my general advice to you. I said I have given up completely on people, but maybe not, I have a small margin for that rare person I occasionally come across that is genuine, and they exist and are worth holding out for.

  291. you guys are nuts, i dont hate university cuz of the people. i hate it cuz of the endless bullshit courses we’re forced to take which wont benefit us in the real world. Uni is just an institute with false hope. lyin to students making us believe that there’s no future if u dont have that piece of paper that says “Degree”. So being stuck in this inevitable rip off, they make us pay high tuition fees, buy expensive books that will only used in 4 months, then staked up in the shelve to collect dust.
    I know enough people graduated from Uni only to be working at a shitty cubical job making shitty wages barely enough to pay the bills. coming home to a small apartment with no life cuz they gotta wake up at 5 am the next mornin only to repeat the small bullshit all over again
    Ya University sucks, profs dont give a shit about ur success, they’re just there to collect their paycheck and fuck off just like every other being in the world.

    bottom line. If you really want a future, Fuck Uni, go out there and make ur own
    peace

  292. I really don’t like the english *sheep* students who treat me as a second class citizen because I’m Irish… racists

  293. YAY!!! I fucking hate uni too – final year French and German student and the work this year is killing me, not to mention that I am living in halls with a bunch of fuckwits who think it is funny to run around hammering on people’s doors. 4 months till i leave!!!!! Cannot bloody wait!!!

  294. The annoying thing is that I changed universities after my first year because I thought i was going somewhere better. Nope, its worse. Bastards.

  295. The worst thing about uni is how the lectures go through so much information in such a little time and expect us to somehow fully understand it straight away. I am doing a very respectable course, and I am about to start my 2nd year. I don’t understand what is the point of them teaching us all of this information, but because they rush it, we only understand the bare minimum as to pass the final exam. High School was so much better as we could study more slowly, absorbing more information, and the fact that we did not have to do assignments/study every single waking moment.

  296. hate university too.. It is a hard problem to drag me there and stay in the bus 40 mins or more. I had enough. I hate it , it isn`t for me but I wanna become an architect , now ca coalworker…… or worst. I hate listening teachers Anyway fuck university

  297. I’m glad now I didn’t go to university, as I soul searched and found that I was only wanted to go for the social life, not the actual course. I think a lot of people are the same.

    As my university dreams have been shot down again and again and the Peak Oil theory is really getting me down I’m going travelling around the world soon. I’m alone but I’m happy for company. So if anyone who has dropped out of university and wants to come with me then just say it. I think a trip would do you good as you must feel pretty crummy if your dreams have fallen apart.

    But if you can hang in there, then do. Three years is a relatively short time when you could live for another 40-50 years. So do you best and I’ll be thinking for you all. Make us too-dumb-for-uni lot proud!

    Chris

  298. I’m really not liking uni right now, my course sucks as they lied on their website about what I got to study, so now I’m learning stuff I’m really not interested in. I also hate the way everyone here seems to have gone off in little groups, I tried to make friends here and I have a few, but not best friends for life. My flatmates annoy me and some nutter lives upstairs and trys to break into the flat at night, fucking scary.

  299. Finally people who understand me!
    I am a 2nd yr student at Melbourne University and I despise it.
    The people there are absolutely horrid and it has been nearly impossible for me to be very socially involved. I currently have no friends and very few acquaintances.
    I would love to make friends whom I could bitch and moan with :p
    I must say its lovely to see that there are people out there that hate uni as much as me!!! :)

  300. I’m in my final year now, a little less then 4 months left, although this seems like forever when I think about the amount of work and exams to get through before I finish. I hated uni from the very start, but decided to stick with it because I had worked so hard to get there, and I kept saying to myself it would get better next year… but it never did, if anything it got worse! There has been many times when I have been extremely close to dropping out… but I was too scared of making the wrong decision and regretting it… in a way I wished I had dropped out during the first year then at least I wouldn’t have wasted much time and energy, but I have to carry on otherwise I would of wasted nearly 3 years!

    I feel I am now half the person I used to be, before uni I had a good group of close friends, I had a decent social life and was generally happy. Now, I have no friends at uni, I hate the people I have to live with at uni, I don’t have a social life, I have little money, and I spend my days trying to do uni work which makes me stresses me out like hell. In a way I feel ashamed that I have not enjoyed my time at uni… to me it is a prison sentence. I know I put myself through it no one forced me to go, but I thought it was the best thing to do was to stick at it…. but now I feel what’s more important is being happy.

    I agree with Chris go travel the world instead of uni, or at least go travelling before you decide to go to uni. It’s a real eye opener and it will put things in perspective. xxx

  301. I just had my first week of uni and already I HATE it. It is so hard to get to know people here. Why? Despite what many automatically think, it’s definitely not because I’m someone who is anti-social, weird or anything along those lines. I’m a nice, funny and friendly person, someone easy to talk to when you first meet. It’s just that the uni environment seems to make it exceptionally difficult to make friends. For instance, except for 2 lessons in a week, none of the people I already know or have met are in my classes. Also, in each lecture so far I have ended up seated next to a different person because the class numbers are so huge and so I can never really see any of the people I met last time. It means it’s difficult to actually become friends with any of them – since I most likely won’t see them again. I guess all I can do is laugh at my own bad luck – which undoubtedly, has something to do with it. Such as: my timetable (hardly any classes or breaks at the same time with people I know), who ends up sitting next to me (they either happen to not be in any other common classes as me or I don

  302. I am in my second year of sciences in a canadian university and I agree with alot of you…I hate it! You cannot say that I’m not in the right program because I have tried taking courses from many other programs and they all were boring and shitty, and sciences is the least shitty one. I don’t know what to do anymore, I want to get into medicine, but because of all the stupid professors I keep screwing up marks and I just feel like I’m being fucked everyday of my life…I love the idea of medicine, I want to do it, and I have been through lots of experiences in my life that made me realize that I want to be a doctor, but it’s not that simple when you study stupid ass chemistry courses about industrial reactions, and biology courses about plants and all that crap. I wouldn’t wanna go into the health science faculty or the biological medicine program because I know that the courses there suck too…any advise?

  303. Michael Phake DukemanN

    I am taking this semester off university and already I am noticing some significant positive differences in my mentality, attitude, and general spiritual well being. Maybe some of you guys should try it, because it is such a nice feeling not having to go back to that place for a while. I hated it so much. I have always been studious, but I just can

  304. Christopher-George

    You guys are the BEST! I thought I was the only fucking person who thinks university is a joke! I want to be a musician or own my own business. However, my Dad is pushing for CEO of some ridiculous bank. He’s been on my case since I was about 7 and I unfortunately did very well in my final school exams and landed in a laws double degree by default. Arhghhh somebody get me the rope. I’m already looking forward to my escape and it’s only week 4.

  305. Anybody who is really really fucked up because of Uni and needs somebody to talk to, email me… frankie_mansfield@hotmail.com Especially if you’re in Australia. Fuck, man. I HATE the arrogance of the Law students I have to study with. They are so fucking pretentious and uncultured. There is no way I associate with that shit – if I make friends, it’s with the Arts people. I can’t stand the majority of Law students: they all whine and whinge about this and that, they are all upper class bastards who have lived in a city their whole lives. My god. Who gives a shit that you hate Tort Law or you have to get up so early on a Friday morning? You didn’t move from a small town more than 2,000 km away to study, you didn’t move for more than 6 months without family, you didn’t have to spend more than 3 hours a day on public transport to study. I am miserable being surrounded by all these cliquey city people. Pub crawls can seriously fuck off.

  306. I totally agree with the UNI idea, why should it take soo long to get anywhere? and then finding you could have done better doing something else or you have to go back, because what you really want to do requires more life years spent reading too many words that no normal person will ever understand again. Next time I will learn the dictionary.

  307. I am very disillusioned and go about my life in a mechanical schizoid way. The courses are quite engaging, but my fellow students are lacking in quality. Everyday for them is the same dull facsimile of the day before. “Are you drinking tonight?” How many unwanted conversations about the sex lives of boors have I been made awkward witness to? Alcohol, marijuana, and other vices occupy the minds of my so called peers without reprise. Simply put, the extreme majority of students I have met have no imagination or sense of creativity. Nightly they piss their money away, make loud noises, and irritate me. I really don

  308. Ive been at uni since sep07 and i absolutley detested it at first. Im nt sure what happened but i think i was just shell shocked by the whole experience and kind of just had a bit of a breakdown. It was NOTHING like what i expected it to be. Never had i been surrounded by sooo many ppl but still felt like the loneliest person in the world. It was strange and id always been fine at home. I suppose i just expected to click with people staright away just like i had in high school and that wed spend time together and hang out all the time. But as time went on and i realised i didnt click with my flatmates i just gave up and stayed in my room since i thought it was pointless spending time with ppl i dont even like or know. I know that thats not the right attitude and doing that just made me feel more reclusive and depressed but i couldnt help it. Luckily my boyf lived in the same city as my uni so i could see him whenever i felt low but that still wasnt enough. I think ive now come to the point of not detesting uni anymore cos i realised that theres nothing wrong with not having the ‘stereotypical’ uni experience. I have a couple of mates i can hang out with now and even though its not my ‘dream’ scenario since i know theyre not my best mates in the world (like id hoped id make) i still have fun with them and it doesnt matter. Ive learned not to take things too seriously. After all itll all be over in a couple of years. Its not worth dwelling on. I mean we only actually spend around 6months there at a time. The only thing i do dread about uni is the constant noise. It can really take its toll if your living in halls as well as the constant fire alarms

  309. university is a fucking BITCH

  310. FUCK UNIVERSITY, it’s a RIP off. So depressing and sad.

  311. What the FUCK is with the random posts above? Isn’t this supposed to be a place where we vent about uni, not advertise ‘women wrestlers naked’ and all that other crap up there?? Wtf happened?

  312. i am starting uni this september, all of you have really crushed my dreams and expectations of what uni will be like, i dont want to loose my creativity and passion but from listening to all of you, it seems inevitable.

  313. @Jessi: That’s what happens when I forget to check on the site for a few days. I’ve removed the spam. Now you see why I need people to help maintain the site :) (Especially since I’m no longer in university myself and I’m kinda out of the loop now.)

  314. “I Hate University” is what I typed in my Google search…by the look of it so have half the students in the world. It’s weird that this feeling is so common, when students discuss it so little face to face, maybe it’s pride, or people feel they have to keep their heads held high. I am at uni in Australia studying a BEng and am in my 4th year. I am a mature age student (29) and even though I am so close to the end of my course (November) I am very disheartened, despite being one of the top students. Uni has taken my creativity, what happened to my dreams of being a writer? Why can’t I find time to finish my book? Where is the desire to be different…fucking sheep is what uni turns out. If you talks up against the system and stand up to the cock sucking lecturers they hold it against you forever by giving you shit grades. Fuck, I just want to get half these useless fuck lecturers in the boxing ring and smash fuck out of them. It’s all I can do to not walk in that place and knock half of them out. CUNTS. As for my course it’s wicked, engineering is cool (for me anyway), it’s just the uni system that fucks me off, and most of the students are alright. The cockheads will learn the hard way when the get into the real world…trust me, I’ve seen it happen many times before. They’ll still be crying to mummy and daddy when they’re 30. I feel much better guys, thanks for the opportunity to post. Oh well, only 11 hours and I’ll be back at uni again ha ha ha Be strong everyone and be lucky

  315. omg it is amazing what you come across when you are trying to run away from the guilt of not studying. i typed in “i hate uni” in google and have come across the greatest thread in history!! I HATE UNI with a PASSION!! coming on the 5th and final year of study and ive just had enough. im burnt out. toast. finished. im going to be venting here from now on. whoever created this site – BRAVO!

  316. hey im towards the end of my second yr of my psychology degree it seem like im doing everything wrong and that im the only fucking stupid bitch in my uni thats failing near enough everything just dont know what the fuck im doing i have a feeling im gona fail my degree with flying colours and wont get a decent job and be working in asda for the minimum wage then again you need fuckinh experience to be working in asda these days{ which i dont have} any one else in the same boat. rox. xxx

  317. i too typed in ” i hate university” and this came up! i have an essay for Civil Liberties, a subject in my first year law course, due in for tomorrow at 12, and have written absolutely nothing. I can’t stand the course, i thought i’d find law interesting, i should have gone and done an artistic degree like i originally wanted but my parents wanted me to do a “proper” degree first and now won’t let me leave. I failed half of my courses last term as i can’t find enthusiasm for any of the content. As others have said there’s so many people who go out almost every night, get wasted, set fire alarms off and run around halls, and i feel like i can’t join in with that because it just isn’t me. I have a few friends up here but most of them are from my part time job, or used to go to the same school as me. it’s so so depressing and now i totally realise why so many people commit suicide at university, and why the government doesn’t give a damn or do anything to change it. i want to be a film maker, but how can you be one without a top american film school degree, or enough money to buy professional camera equipment? university is like a whirlpool that you get drowned into.

  318. i think that teachers should just stop nagging us and let us be,stupid bitch ms kelly keeps pestering me in physics and i honestly felt like smacking her. might move to london such a nice place RnF

  319. Hi guys. This is just a quick one, I found this site through typing in ‘ i hate university’ as I have felt for quite some time now, that I might be the only one that hates this pile of crap. I am finishing my second year of media in Liverpool, I done really well in the first year, although I have social anxiety disorder and it meant I made no friends. The second year has been a fucking nightmare though, my attendance has been awful and the students are all pretentious shitty faced pricks, that I hate. They think the world is their oyster and that the most important thing in the world is where their next weed is coming from. I am on anti depressants and seeing a councillor, but I hate this. GRRRRRR. Please someone, anyone, save me!!! Love Hannahx

  320. Hey Hannah, (and everyone else for that matter), sorry to hear you’re having a shitty time at uni. My advice to you would be if you’re really not happy and it’s affecting your attendance and performance to take a break or ‘temporary withdrawal’ as it’s known after your second year. If you’re on anti depressants and seeing a councillor, that’s more than a valid reason so there shouldn’t be any problem. The advantage of doing this is, you get a break from Uni, but still have the option of returning next year should you wish. In the same breathe, if you find during your year off, you really don

  321. Hi Hannah, your post sounds exactly the same as me. Also in 2nd year at uni, have SAD, on antidepressents, hate university etc. I think having SAD is probably the worst possible thing to have at university, completely socially disabling and I hate it more than anything (yes more than university!)

  322. I HATE UNI SO DAMN MUCH. I am now ready to throw in the towel. i am in my 3rd year of primary teaching and have transferred from monash (great uni) to deakin (shit uni), i did not have a choice in subjects at deakin due to crediting what i had already done, and i only have one subject that is actually about teaching! 2 x 1500 word essays due on monday and im trying to decide NOW whether to quit the course, so that i dont do those waste of time essays for nothing. A bitch of a teacher gave me a pass, first pass i have ever gotten! she wrote the most sarcastic rude comments on my essay, bitch whore slut! i walked into uni today to have a go at her, only to find another bitch whore slut had taken her spot for the day. so i went to see the course counsellor, and suprised myself because i burst into tears in front of this complete stranger! the stress makes me sleep all the time to avoid thinking about what essays i should be doing. oh but everyone will think im a quitter, a loser. do i even want to be a teacher anymore with the crap wage, is it just a glorified babysitting job. it is a 24/7 job, the amount of planning u have to do when u come home! ahhhhhh im so bitter!!! what am i going to do? p.s. meanwhile i have my fiance telling me i can manage and teach at his acting studio he is buying in two weeks. the thought of never having to write a pointless essay again is BLLLLISS

  323. I am sitting at Uni right now on a public holidayy, typing “I hate Uni” into Google, and I am so enlightened by what I find in these forums. I am in my last year of a B.Sc. at UQ in Brisbane and people ask me all the time what I want to do when I finish. I’ve no freaking idea but I know I definitely could not hack doing an Honours in the immediate future, I don’t want to do research and I don’t want to work in a lab. What is there for me? I spend ten hours a day at least at Uni working my arse off in an attempt for good marks but the work never stops, it’s one assignment after the other or hour after hour in the lab doing pracs. When does this shit ever end? It is going to get me nowhere in the end and then I’ll have wasted three years of my life being a broke, stressed, unhappy student. Where was the advice before we started Uni about the kinds of hell you would go through just for a ridiculous piece of paper at the end of it? It would have made me think twice about entering this shithouse-lifestyle and putting myself into massive debt. University is all about making money, they are businesses not educators. The lecturers are mostly untrained in how to actually teach and are most unmotivating. University is a glorified highschool where once you finish nothing actually matters, all they want is your money. I don’t know how I will manage to get through this last year but I can’t quit now. When this shit is all over no-one will know me as a Botanist, I will still be me but now I might have a chance at getting a job that will pay off some of my student debt and help me get the hell out of here. I dream of travelling – not of being a scientist. I want the life I had before I had to sacrifice my soul to Uni. To all of you, I am so pleased to know I am not alone in my thoughts or bitterness, nor in the urges to quit Uni and stomp all over their prestigiuos reputations. Good luck!

  324. I bit the bullet today and packed it in. I said to myself if they wouldn’t let me transfer course, I’d quit. I hated my course and I hated the people I lived with, what was the point of staying? I would have done well, but there’s no way I was going through another 3 soul-crushing years like the one I’d gone through. I can honestly say that I haven’t felt so happy in a very, very long time. I’m going to teach myself German over the summer and move to Munich in the autumn, and do what I want to do and not what society expects of me.

  325. man this website has helped me see that I’m not alone. I have all ways been able to make friends very easily which I did when I moved in to halls on the first day. I studied a lot in the first semester but started to lose intrest in the second because I couldn’t see why we were learnin this utter bullshit. I’m nearing at the end of my second year and I am feeling quite depressed because I dont want to let my family and especially my dad down but I think I’m gonna drop out. My dad came from a shitty council estate and is well off now, but has worked his bollocks off to get where he is. I dont want to be stuck in a job I dont like but Now a degree mite aswell be a bit of fucking shit roll cos it really aint worth shit. Fuck uni. I just dont want to let my dad down and if I being honest I dont want to let myself down. I dont know what to do.

  326. uni has turned me MENTAL! I should be doing a two week project in one night tonight for tommorow instead googling ‘i hate uni’..i’ve decided i’m not going to go in tommorow..buying me the weekend to finish my work..though i know i’ll leave it to the last minute again. my teacher has completley erroded my self esteem and creativity. now i don’t even know where to start with new projects. i have no motivation. i feel scared and overwhelmed to even start projects…even something like ‘design a leaflet!’ i just feel like i don’t know where to start and feel as though i can’t do it. i know i was a bloody good graphic designer :( and i got three distinctions for my btec…but now i hate it! but everywhere i go…i see graphic design everywhere! and it just guilt trips me from doing my work! uni has really changed me as a person. i can’t really explain how i feel..it’s really strange.. i kind of feel as though I have nothing to say anymore. when i ring friends or family..i’m so unhappy that.. i just have no conversation and i find it really hard to talk to people now. i’m really self concious and judge everything i say/do and compare myself to other people in social situations, thinking i’m not as good as them. even though i know that i wouldn’t like to be like them and i’m probably a nicer person and i’m quite pretty and should probably be confident with myself. i feel constantly ill and tired and miserable :( i get periods when i’m like ‘pull yourself together! be happy. everythings fine!’ and go to uni feeling positive, but i walk home feeling negative again. i’m really lonely :( i have a few close friends but i hate the nights when they’re out and i’m just stuck at home by myself. i have accquantances and i want to get closer to them. but it’s hard to pass the line of becoming friends and hanging out and stuff and just saying hi and having a quick chat. the highlight of my life when i think ‘i love uni life!’ is the drunken nights out but i hardly have time to do that anymore with the workload. i’ve been single my whole time at uni. i recently started seeing someone that I’ve loved my whole time at uni,but i think ruined by being clingy, because i’m lonely here:( i just feel like a want someone to look after me and make me less lonely! i felt like i couldn’t show them my true self cos i’m so unhappy. but i know that until i’m happy with myself and my life i won’t have a relationship. i miss college and my btec so much! i was a million times happier then. my course inspired me and i loved graphic design. i have no idea what to do with my life after uni though! this course has completley turned me against graphic design and i hate it now :( i’d quite to be a hairdresser lol! but again that’s a few years at college that i won’t be able to afford. i wanted to design for a fashion magazine after uni…but i think i’ve ruined my chances of that :( cos i can’t do the work anymore so i won’t have a good portfolio to get me the job. i’m missing my family and feel guilty that i never see my grandparents and things like that :( and i toss and turn at nights when i’m trying to sleep, loads of thoughts of money, work i haven’t done…going through my head. i wake up in the morning with a knot in my stomach :( arrrgghhhhh.i don’t see myself getting through next year :( but i have to. i’ve come this far and i’m half way through. x

  327. the most fucking experience that influenced my life i did not get it until the end and i’m feeling suck about it shit university when you are inside it’s a probleme and when you leave it it’s a probleme holy shit i become nerveous about not being complete my studies mamamamama i wanna cry shit. sorry this is how university make you

  328. Sory to hear this Sophie. The torture will never end unfortunately. It’s a shame you’re half way through because giving up will become harder and harder to do as you get closer to finishing. I have 26 days left until my degree is offically over. I have nothing left to do but revise for just two exams then I am done completely. University can go fuck itself up its arse. :) OH GOD that felt good saying that. I’m usually quite a polite person, but that needed to be said. As quite a lonely person, you tend to notice other students’ behaviour around you better. Tell me guys whether you think this is true of all students (especially in collegiate universities): 1) You are guaranteed to find them in clusters between 2 and 15 people. 2) You will never find a student on their own and if you do.. well, that’s me! 3) EVERY SINGLE student will put on some kind of posh fucking accent to ‘blend in’ 4) When they’re in their little cluster they talk VERY LOUUUDLY – as if they’re trying to grab attention to other clusters, to make them look very cool. 5) Clusters will always fucking walk in ONE BIG LINE.. EVERYWHERE! Single file is a big no-no here; to be part of the cluster you must be seen at all times by taking up the entire hall, forcing to to be pushed into the fucking wall. 6) Students LOVE to draw attention to themselves subconsciously – They will walk wearing ridiculous shoes that flip and flop very loudly, or scrape their feet along the ground on purpose to make noise. 7) The more “drunk they got last night” the more “popular” they are. 8) Are vain, self-centred, careless and don’t give a shit about disrupting other people unless it’s someone from their “cluster”. 9) ALL WEAR THEIR COLLARS UP.. what the fuck is that all about? I was born in the 1980′s.. I’m not that out of fashion am I?! I think that’s it for now. I’m vented and feel much better. Thanks to the person who made this page. I salute you.

  329. I see a lot of people enjoying their time at uni, but not me! I think its because I feel like im getting ripped off big time; everything we do we have to do on our own and yet we’re paying massive amounts just to do this (when we can do it for free outside of uni). For example, making friends/meeting new people, reading and learning off a freaking textbook, buying overpriced food, using shitty ass computers… god dammit, i dont need to go to uni to do these things. ARGHH I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU! Lies.. it was all lies… Hffffhfh. Tomorrow I will talk to someone in my lectures and spread my hatred. I no longer care what comes out of my mouth – it doesnt mean anything to anyone anyway.

  330. Yes, I thought this Nate. The only thing that made me think paying over

  331. i fuckin hate uni! and me, like a dumb ass… i decide to go for a double degree! i finisihed physio and this is my last year of ergonomics… let me tell u this was honsetly the dumbest decision of my LIFE! i am working 4 days a week doin physio, and 1 fucked up day of uni, and i still get depressed! it doesnt matter about how many contact hours, or what course your doing… its the fact that u have to do assignments. its the fact that u have to study for fucked up exams. its the fact that you are paying a shitload out of ur ass and u get a big FUCK YOU in return, especially when u start working and realise uni taught u jack!

  332. My 4 years of hell ends next thursday, three exams to get through before then, but it’s okay this time because the end is in sight.I just wanted to say good luck to everyone and thanks for sharing here, this thread has been a godsend to me since my 2nd year. Keep it going for the sanity of future students!

  333. yes. FUCK UNIVERSITY. i feel the same way. i’m getting good grades but have no life. last week i was recovering from insomnia and loss of appetite due to the stress of handing in 3 consecutive fucking major assignments. i can’t even sleep properly anymore because i keep having nightmares about uni. i like my new friends but we never have the time to get close seeing as i see them only in my classes. i have lots of my old school buddies from high school and we’re still v. v. close but i don’t have time to see them because of fucking uni. people judge me on my course too coz i’m doing arts even tho i got a very high ENTER score. it’s coz i thought i’d really like arts. but i HATE it and sometimes i can’t even blame everyone for all the “arts students are dumb” jokes (which i’m so fucking sick of too) because in a way it’s true…i mean how am i going to make money after i graduate. i have no idea, but i don’t think i’m good at anything else either. while i hate the whole fucking course… i cant change coz i think i’d hate everything else more. i have this subject called behavioural studies which is totally fucked up and makes me feel very depressed about the world. it pretty much tells us that we’re bad people destroying the world with all our consumer powers and there’s no way to fix it. what’s the point of teaching us this fucked up crap when they could be figuring a way to try and fix the problem? my other courses are also dry uninteresting crap, i have to read booklets of shit that don’t make sense and won’t help me find a job in 2 and a half years time when i graduate. i find myself getting more and more depressed and hating life and constantly feeling guilty even when i relax…and i’m becoming a loner. the only guy i was interested in and semily friends with has been taken away by some whorebag while i skipped 2 lectures to finish assignments on time. to top this all off i am paying a shitload of money to make myself more unhappy. and when you think about it uni won’t even gurantee that we’ll get jobs. it just notches your chances slightly. FUCKING UNIVERSITY. sorry for all the swearing guys ^^;; i’m usually a very quiet, polite person. i’m just so angry and passionately supportive of you guys and ur uni hatred. don’t give up tho. we have to keep trying. it’s just one period of our lives and then we can move out from this hell like “relived” (message above mine)…anyway thanks for starting this thread and letting me vent alongside you guys i feel better now after a particularly bad day at uni :D bye good luck guys..hope you have it better than me atm

  334. I quit Uni today and it FEELS SO GOOD! Its aload of crap and i was sick of being miserable every day. Life is for living so if your not happy leave + do something worthwhile. You only get one life, dont waste it xXx

  335. You all sound like 13 year old kids disillusioned with the world. Have none of you grown up at all. All you need to learn is that life is hard. You all sound lazy to me, you cant even be arsed to hand in reports.

  336. I agree with Brian….university is not meant to be a stroll in the park. If it didn’t challenge you then it wouldn’t prepare you for the real world. Anyone who says that uni isn’t fun at the same time as being challenging must have a social deficiet disorder. Get out there join a society, make some friends, get laid (you dont need to have alcohol to have a good time) stop wollowing in your own self pity and get off these blogs!!!!

  337. You don’t know us. Stop pretending you do. I’m glad you’ve had an easy life through uni – you’re lucky. This is for people who HATE university and have had rough times. Go away.

  338. Shh. You’ve had a great time at uni. Good for you. We haven’t. Leave us to rant it makes us feel better.

  339. I love how these people like brian and JJ4EVA have actually bothered to come onto this page and comment, when to get here you have to search for something along the lines of “I hate university”. You’re just as miserable as us, but to make yourselves feel better you’d rather try to make us feel worse. Oh, and I personally have no problems getting laid, I just fucking hate university. Why do you assume the two correlate?

  340. University can go FUCK itself up its FUCKING ass.

  341. I too googled I hate uni! Im in my final week of assignments and afterwards I am free of this regime of university! I cannot wait to leave uni and I too feel like all of you who have posted here. I had dreams and aspirations of uni, meeting new people, enjoying my course. Instead I meet fake arrogant people, have a shit course and count the hours until I can sit in my room eating or fucking about on the internet. One thing uni has taught me is to open my eyes…bigger. I cant drop out either, or my parents would kill me. Im taking a film course and all I’ve been doing is writing essays on ” It could be this…or it could be that” we can’t form our own opinions, we have to follow stupid lecturers who are fucking bias and I spend half of time helping others do work!??!! Sure I might be naive, I used to help people do there work and when Id ask for help back I get sweet fuck all. Ive become so cynical now that all people do in life is fuck people over so they can get higher than you. What really pisses me off is when you work your arse off doing work and get a shitty grade while someone does it hours before hand in and get a better mark!? Wheres the justice in that??!?!! three more days and then Im free of this shit. I just hope I can graduate so I never have to go back again. Good luck to those who are in their first or 2nd years…try and find the simple things in life that make you happy…uni is NOT one of them

  342. Right on! Earlier this semester university was really getting to me again, I was coming home worn out and spent, I was always tired and feeling really depressed. I would get irritated at silly little things and I was going nowhere. It was doing me no good so I thought long and hard and at first it seemed outlandish, but then and there while studying I decided to take this semester off. It has been one of the best decisions I have ever made in the last 3 years since being there, everything felt so much better. I could breathe again, the stress eased, I really felt like I was 21 and not some lethargic, hopeless drone. Since then I even lost weight, I was never overweight to begin with but now that I was feeling so much better, I was eating better, sleeping better and exercising regularly. It feels like colour has returned to my life. Well of course I got negative feedback from my

  343. Matthew – This is exactly what has happened to me, I mean *exactly*! Except I have gone back to uni after my break expecting things to be better now that I have “colour” back in me: Only takes a few weeks and BAM! Back where I started. I can guarantee you will see no improvement or won’t see it in a different light when you return. Good luck man, and keep us posted.

  344. Have you ever considered that if you spent less time bitching in chat rooms that you would have a better time at university. I would like to agree with Brian and JJ4VR and say that i love university and would like to carry on to post grad. There is a correlation between getting laid and having fun. YOUR ALLL COCKS I AM GREAT.

  345. How dare you, you peice of shit. Fuck off you smelly derranged cunt. You are just like the students depicted by everyone on here – arrogant, self-centred, obnoxious fuck-holes. Go play with yourself infront of your lecturers if you like uni that much. Enjoy post-grad :)

  346. Well said ^^^^Yeh.., Another shithead who claims to love uni, yet typed in “I hate uni” to get here. Fucking imbecile. Doubt you’re even capable of post-grad studies you stupid fuckwit.

  347. In response to haha, i’m on-line for a first in anatomical science from Bristol. So fuck you.

  348. So, you’ll know where your anus is located so you can shove your fat head through it. Enjoy post-grad.

  349. FINISHED your a legend. a first in antomical science is amazing. Thanks for backing me in thinking the guys on here are just a waste of space. They cant even hack university, so how are they gonna hack the real world???????????

  350. Calling it first – ‘Finished’ and ‘Brian’ are the same person. What an utter cunt, you have to resort to making another persona up to praise yourself on a message board. “Finished your a legend” (it’s spelled “you’re” by the way idiot). Some life you’ve got there, why aren’t you out getting laid, Brian? Too busy checking on the ‘I hate uni’ message boards when you supposedly love uni. You fucking waste of oxygen.

  351. I’m fucking around on this forum because Uni is utter shit and have nothing better to do. If you’re living up life so much Brian and FINISHED (if you are indeed separate people) what’s your excuse? This blog is designed for people with serious FUCKED UP problems with Uni that you will never understand. It doesn’t mean we’re not going to cope with the real world. Uni is not the real world. There are loads of people on here who’ve left Uni and made great progress – turned out Uni was holding them back. Don’t post comments on here when you haven’t spent the time reading what people have to say or understanding how people feel. So I say this: Never reply on here again and we’ll respect you in thinking you have some form of life and let us live ours on here. That goes for duplicates. Yes, just because we hate Uni doesn’t mean we’re stupid. Now fuck the fucking fuck off, fuckers. Have a great day :)

  352. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

  353. Hey I am so glad I found this I hate uni so much all I do is study or work and feel like getting knewhere. Having a problrm with motivation doesnt help I find uni hard and sometimes it makes me feel like im useless. Repeating my second year well 2 modules and its still hard but i am trying I shouldnt worry what ppl think I knoW just glad 2 see im not alone

  354. I too suffer the same university driven issues that the vast majority of this forum share (excluding of course our friend Brian/Finished). Whilst I am of the opinion that university is greatly beneficial, it is also a very wide world out there full of opportunity for education and advancement! (Incidentally, I happen to be in my final year at the highest ranked university in New Zealand). I sometimes (frequently) have to remind myself that just making it to a university is a fantastic achievement, and that I AM a success in what I choose to do. And so are you! Yet there is much to be said for alternatives to ‘the beast’ of tertiary education – electricians, plumbers/gasfitters, builders, the list goes on and on… However they never told us that at school, oh no, its all “go to university and you will be a success” and “you’ll be fine” (I HATE that saying, its not comforting at all!!) Dont turn your nose up at the idea of trade apprenticeships, for example currently NEWLY qualified builders in NZ can very easily earn a yearly wage of $60,000 – $100,000 for a 40-60 hour week! (and not taking your work home with you to). When you take into account that they do not have the dreaded student loan, dont live in shitty flats because they can afford not to, and actually have a life outside of their work (several of my friends are apprentices in a variety of trades), it all starts to really stack against that humdrum pit of stupid ass kids and useless lecturers. So to all that are in the ‘beast’ which threatens to drain your soul, we are all in the same damm leaky boat; some take the plunge off to try their luck elsewhere, a select few climb the mast to better only themselves, and the rest of us row the best we can to keep the whole thing afloat! And if you are thinking about what to do, both before coming and after leaving university, consider a trade, its much much better than working in the likely insurance call-centre!!! And to the fuckwit playing the very loud, same-song-again-16-bloody-times, I’m getting the taser out…. die mutha!

  355. I have just finished my last exam. I am free. I am finally free after 5 years of hell. I was expecting myself to be really excited and happy. Actualy I’m so tired from Uni that I don’t have the strength right now. I hope I do though once the idea that I never have to take another lecture or exam ever again comes to me. Good luck everyone, it’s going to be tough, agonising and to the point of shear mental pain. But when it’s over, it’s OVER! :)

  356. Only 2 weeks left for me :) :) :) I can’t wait. Perhaps the most stressful 3 years of my life.

  357. i chose to add a fourth year to my degree and write a thesis, a decision which has haunted me since feb and i can’t wait til it’s all over in 4 months. i have had little support from my supervisor who decided half way through the year that I was going to research a different topic and regularly misses meetings that she schedules. the first 3 years of my degree were ok, good even, but this year has left me very pissed off and bitter about the whole process. Fuck you, UTAS

  358. Uni is fuckin bent. People tell you that you have to go to uni otherwise you won’t get a good job. So pressure makes you go to university. You pay out shit loads of money and kill yourself trying to do well and there is no guarantee you will even succeed. I worked my ass off for these end of year exams and luck wasn’t on my side. I was either just not feeling in the right mood to do an exam or the questions didnt turn out right for me. And because of this i must retake the year and pay out another truck load of money. Fuck you uni, you can suck my dick. Is it really worth all this hassle? Can’t leave because i won’t get paid as much, can’t stay because i mite kill myself. You only get one life, make sure you enjoy every minute of it. Fuck the system

  359. hell yeah!!! you guys are great!!! I love computers, i love programming and stuff, and i have a great job, where i can be creative and love what i do. At the same time, im stuck at university, and it feels like shit. No creativity AT ALL. I mean the whole concept is this: “sit down, and learn the book, after that tell me whats in the book”. Is this really the definition of intelligence? FUCK YOU!!!

  360. Uni is full of pretentious frat boys and up tight shallow bitches. Sometimes you just wish someone would drop a depleted uranium tipped GBU onto the campus, that would teach them all a lesson.

  361. Uni is full of pretentious frat boys and up tight shallow bitches. Sometimes you just wish someone would drop a depleted uranium tipped GBU onto the campus, that would teach them all a lesson.

  362. I hate uni, so today, I quit! I’ve been studying Nursing for one and a half years, and they have been the worst years of my life. Society tells us that we need to attend uni to suceed in life, so from the age of 15, I had to make the decisions of courses in high school that would allow me to continue into uni. At 15, how can anyone know what they want to do? I just did it for lack of anything better, but now I’m miserable. I dont like the person I have turned into because of uni, I cant see it getting better in the remainder of the course, and I cannot even see it becoming a career in any shape or form! My parents have been, generally, great, say they will support me etc, but are dissapointed that I dont know what I want to do instead. I’m still only 19, and to be honest, I would rather be a ‘drop out’ and be happy, than in uni and desperately miserable. Wish me luck!!!

  363. I thought I was the only one, well this makes me a little happier. I hate uni so much :( the people are pretentious horrible snobs who look down their nose at anyone that wasn’t privately educated. “Your dad’s really a POSTMAN” – yes he is, so what? FUCK OFF! I am tired of being miserable all the time. I feel utterly trapped and powerless. Everyday I wake up hoping that the uni has exploded or flooded or burned down (any would be good lol) Anyone got any advice for me on what to do with this rubbish life I now lead??

  364. I got a 2:1, not the best mark but yay anyway! It was worth the hell, stick with it everyone, you will feel very satisfied when you pass

  365. I’m so glad I found this forum. I don’t know if any of you have this problem, but I come from a very academic family. My dad was a professor (retired). My sister is about to enter medical school at Columbia. Both have resumes a mile long. It’s like, if you opt not to go to Uni, you’re somehow less rounded of a person. If you hate Uni, something is fundamentally wrong with you. How many of you have parents and siblings like mine?

  366. i have finally finished uni for good, thank god!! they were the worst years of my life, ive been so down and depressed the whole time but now im free to get on with my life! i got a 2:2 which im pleased with, considering the little effort i put in! at least i got something for the massive debt i’m now in!

  367. Fuck That Shit

    Fuck Uni, now I want to join the Army because being surrounded by pretentious frat boys and superficial bitches for the last 3 years has removed all the moral boundaries I had with the idea of killing. I don’t care anymore, I am sick of being depressed and wearing out because I just can’t fit in with all those inebriated douche bags, why would I want to anyway? I just hate the idea that I would be defending those idiots if I was in the military. I want to go out into the wild and learn all the stuff they teach you in the Army, I want that physical intimacy with nature. As for the killing part, who gives a fuck? FUCK UNI, FUCK UNI, FUCK UNI. Universities are just not what they used to be, I am sure once upon a time they were nice places to be where people would be united with a common appreciation for knowledge and the beauty of free thinking but maybe I am just being naive. I hope most of them end up with their degrees and I hope that leads them to a boring job with boring wives, huge debts, traffic jams, prozac by the kilograms, ungrateful spoiled, indifferent, ‘individual’ children, boring lives where football is the highlight, no time for hobbies, yes I can see it now it’s happening so fast and it could just as easily happen to me but god damn it I hope not. Fuck them all, Fuck them very much And also, last but not least: FUCK the pop culture like Sex and the City, OC, Lagoona Beach, MTV, 21, and all that other shit that promotes those fucking decadent values that is fucking everyone up and turning them into artificial, materialistic, indifferent, anti social scum while saying a huge ‘FUCK YOU’ to the sacred institution of the Family. FUCK THEM TO HELL.

  368. Uni is about as much fun as having sex with a broken glass bottle.

  369. Univeristy Bloows

    Yes like most other people who have previously posted I typed in “I hate University” onto Google and indeed I do hate this soul and wealth draining institution with a blood thirsty passion. I have just finished my first year of a Chemistry degree and it has been a truly horrible experience. 60 to 70% of the people who attend my course are shallow assholes who belong to the stereotypical exclusive cliques. Luckily I live quite close to my university which means I can walk there, albeit after an hours walk. Though from the horror stories I have heard about student accommodation that hours walk is definitely worth it. My lecturers are about as inspiring as watching paint dry for 6 hours on a Sunday afternoon. The reason for this is obvious. Their main job is not teaching it is conducting research at our expense which they would rather do than pass the torch to the next generation of degree holders. The one friend true friend I did make at this university and probably the best friend I ever made decided to leave the course because she could not stand it so off to another country she went. I have tried to make other friends but people usually look at me as if I just farted when I try to speak to them

  370. Univeristy Bloows

    After reading all these posts I have come to the conclusion that people like us are collectively a voice unheard. This my friends needs to change. Most university lectures have Email addresses and what I prose is that from dummy email accounts (after which would be deleted) we email the influential lecturers and authority figures at our respective institutions with a link to this page so they can hear what we have to say and what we have to think but are unable to do so face to face with these people due to the stigma that no doubt would be associated with it. I would love to hear what others have to say on my proposed idea? Thank you all for listening

  371. I studied at Oxford University between 1992 and 1996. Even today there’s no words which sum up my hatred of the damn place. I

  372. Not gonna say lol

    I finished a month ago with a 2.1, my god i’ve fucking hated the past two yrs, yr1 was okay but it was when u moved out of halls. There are so many backstabbing bastards, i live at home now looking for a job. i’m so pleased i stayed really good friends with my mates at home, what a bunch of pretentious wankers ive had to live with. lol, maybe we should all go out for a drink and share our sorrows

  373. Has anyone actually left their course? I hear a lot of people ranting about uni but being hypocritical and continuing with it, despite their sheer unhappiness.

  374. I was sitting there going stir crazy and decided to voice my frustration at my assignment by typing i hate uni in the search engine and boy am i glad to have found you all. I dont think i have ever had so much in common with so many people. I am in my third year of a Bachelor of Arts Degree…its has been the biggest load of shit i have ever experienced. I was going to go onto my masters of teaching…the last three years have been completely irrelevant!!!! But to answer the question above as to has anyone left..after 2 and half years i have dropped from 4 subjects to 2, close to quitting but do i really want to have wasted the last few years and hard earned dollars to give that place the satisfaction of me quitting??? mmm not yet anyway. I have so many similar experiences to you all, again 3 year still no friends, i cant even talk in tutorials i blush and have like anxiety attacks (which im seeking counselling for now) the assessments are just a bunch of bullshit, the staff are not helpful…honestly its the worst place. Its a status thing, oh i go to uni, or my daughter goes to uni. I went straight from school, and im starting to realise there is so much more to life. Driving to the dreaded institution i was stopped at lights and i was watching this guy on the side of the road collecting rubbish. I thought i wonder how happy he is? Why am i so unhappy? So much more to life. This venting has been unreal, not sure if anyone can see my email but feel free to contact me for a chat with someone that understands. thanks all

  375. Hi UWS, I’d really like to chat to you about Uni Hell! but can’t see your email address?

  376. Hey Guys, let’s start a facebook group! My email is clawz_n_jawz@hotmail.com, I have posted here under the names of ‘Fuck that Shit’, ‘Matthew’and ‘Morning Crack’, if you can relate to me then add me and we’ll start a group.

  377. Heya Sio, sorry just realised it didnt appear, my email is ultimate_chaos59@hotmail.com drop me an email whenever you need a chat. Hey Matt, Facebook group is an awsome idea,my email is up to, id be happy to help start something aswell. Thanks guys, you have no idea how much better i felt after i found you all yesterday!

  378. Hey UWS. Thanks for your email, I will email you soon :) Facebook group sounds great! Let’s bring those uni’s down! hehe.

  379. The only thing that has kept me going at university is the 1 society I joined that has proved to be of any interest at all. And frankly, I don’t mind the uni, I hate the fucking course. http://www.smmp.salford.ac.uk/about/staff/profile.php?id=uali I hate this guy most of all. Some head of course, won’t even take calls in his office, actively avoids speaking to me… grah…

  380. Fuck, this is soo boring my lecturer is such a loser This is her http://www.deakin.edu.au/buslaw/infosys/members/profile.php?userid=lubat

  381. I typed ‘I hate University’ and got this page back in 2006! Wow it’s grown. Okay, here’s my shit: Year 1 05/06 – Started in 2005. What a fucking joke – the good natured, popular guy I had once been was reduced to a pseudo-alcoholic recluse. Stuck it and did my exams. Year 2 06/07 – ‘Deferred a year’. Went traveling on my own, none of this pre-booked tour bullshit. Amazing, very very at ease with my own company, which I wasn’t before. Year 3 – Joined back to continue Uni. Live with some great guys, tho’ all on different levels (quite reserved types). Yet, my CHARACTER STILL HASN’T RECOVERED from my first year of depressive bullshit. I’m more content, but BEFORE I Joined I was – Happy, thought I could add something to the world. Spoke my mind. Since: – Lack of enthusiasm, find myself conforming (what the fuck?!) and I’ve got SHYER WITH AGE. Anyone else? Meh, because of travelling I now have the ability to go to a pub on my own, due to lack of true mates. Infact, i’d say I only ever had 2, 1 has since graduated compared to home. Rant over. Main focus: Uni is a fucking money-making institution which doesn’t promote diversity at all, it’s a breeding ground for the arrogant (not all though). So, suck my fat dick Uni. No doubt you’ll be having the last laugh when i’m diagnosed with liver and lung disease as a result of self-medication – you destroyed my dreams.

  382. I think there’s a definite relationship with our anger and our expectations of University. Perhaps we were just all to enthusiastic? I’ve learn that I can be happier just by living in the city, I spend as little time there as I feel no association with the majority of people there. Yes i’ve been let down, I imagine this will have a huge knock-on effect for the rest of my life, but I suppose it’s just life.

  383. I used to go to massey in New Zealand. It’s a shithole full of stuck up sluts and their shitless rugbyhead boyfriends. The lecturers are arrogant bastards and I hated it.

  384. Hey all, I just like to reply to your comment Ritchie. I was reading over my high school reports, you know what they all say that i always contribute to class discussion. In my three years at uni i havent said boo. So i agree i to have got shyer with age. What shits me more than anything is im to scared to express my opinion. Everytime i bring myself to say something i stop myself because of what everyone else will think. I blush right..i had a teacher for a whole semester pay out on my personal insecurity. Tutorial discussion is apart of my assessment mark right, this is what she would say “everyone look away or close your eyes you will make her blush but today she needs to introduce the reading” Bitch who is she to do that!!!! Anyway i agree with you Ritchie!!! Take Care all.

  385. To UWS Hater – Exactly the same here! Back in high school I was a confident guy who always spoke up, about my own opinion or in defense of others. Hell even got elected class representative. Now I don’t. What’s worse is that the habit of keeping my thoughts in is affecting every other aspect of my life. I.e Sometimes around my frickin friends I don’t say what I feel. I’m beginning to become more concious and it’s irritating. Infact I rarely ever say my opinion these days, it feels like it’s wrong for some reason. I’d love to know why this is? Your tutor sounds like an arse, it’s pathetic that a grown educated adult should act that way. I have a similar thing with one of my old course leaders. For some reason, I always tell myself I’ll go into the next seminar with a “i don’t give a fuck attitude” but never do. It’s always, “next time”. Thanks for the reply!

  386. I’m a week into a Canadian university and I hate it. My classes are full of idiots, apparently don’t exist, and this morning I got locked out of the one class I enjoy. To top it off: I can’t find anyone in Administration to help me and the “dining hall” never has any food when I go to eat. Fuck you. I’m going back West where there aren’t any fucking preps (who’ll succeed in life because of their parents connections regardless) railing against the “uneducated”. Take your pseudo-intellectualism and shove it up your ass you worthless shits. This was my life goal and its all over now. Fuck it.

  387. i have to go back for my second year tomorrow. kill me. kill me now.

  388. agh UWS hater I feel exactly the same way. I was always a little bit shy but I could cover it up and at school no one even noticed but now that I’m at uni I have virtually no confidence socially and academically. I sit in tut’s, which are marked and compulsory, and I barely say a word unless I’m asked. I’m in my second sem of first year and managed to get trhough first sem with good grades and feeling ok about myself but now I can’t stand it. I’ve missed out on so many tut’s and classes because I see no reason for being there. I really wanted to drop out at the beginning of this semester but my family told me to “just get trough it” but why do I have to get trhough it? Why can’t I do something I enjoy instead of wasting time and money feeling absolutely crap about myself. I thought I was so alone in feeling this so finally I can rant to people who feel the same. It just seems that everyone else is enjoying it and doing fine and I just freak out. I have a massive essay due tommorow and I’ve almost finished but I know it’s not my best. I used to be so passionate about doing my work at high school and put in alot of effort but now I just wanna get it done and pass it. I wdon’t even keep in contact with people from high school or elsewhere much anymore because I’ve lost all my confidence. I know it’s no ones fault but mine but I just don’t fit in. I hate it, I worked so hard to get here and now I can’t see the point!!

  389. Hi ppl, I have just finished filling in my withdrawal form and I honestly, eventhough I hated uni I had mixed emotions. I feel like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders. I did feel a little dissapointed i myself but then i remembered how much i hate uni! I have found a training acadamy near my home. It has cost me two grand to get the course i wanted. I know this sounds like alot but its nothing compared to uni fees. Im going to be training for around 4-6 weeks to become a fully qualified domestic electrician.Then I will work to get the money together to become a fully qualified electrician earning uround 45 grand a year working for someone! I always wanted to be a spark n not got 2 crappy uni but if i didnt i wouldnt have meet my girlfriend and mates; and wouldnt have the great memories. I know it is hard for ppl to make friends especially if their not into the drinking and clubbing scene. My advice would be to try to go to the student bar in the day time with someone you know from your course. This way you could try and make friends with ppl they know. If you really want to leave just do it. I thought my dad was going to kill me but he said he would support me in anyway he can just so long as i was happy. and said get a trade cos your earn more than most and will always have a job. Im glad ive got out cos a bit of paper saying your good enough cant get you ready for the real world. Peace

  390. I don’t know if my university experience is different from you guys because of your univercity, your course or culture but I have found people at university quite supportive. I am doing a bacofsci in mining at curtin uni in western australia and people are just so friendly and helpful here. I join this course in its second year (got exsemption) and even though I started off being an outsider I was quickly inclued by being friendly but not weak or submissive because people take advantage of that. As for the work it is shit and I do thing at the last minute and i cram but those thing work for me i am passing everything (though i will never be an honours student). And remember alcohol is social lubricant so buy a round.

  391. I AM into drinking and clubbing. It’s just that I have very little in common with the people i’ve met at University. I’ve always been the leader so I’m not adept in changing my interests to suit others. For example, I’m meeting 21 year olds that still act immature/shelltered i.e being worried about what parents think, (dad won’t let me get a job etc etc). I’m simply not middle-class in my ethic. For the first time I’m having to force myself to PRETEND TO LIKE something, instead of naturally enjoying it. I’m going to complete the course, but I can’t help feeling that I have near enough wasted 3 precious years of my youth on a piece of paper I could create in a day on Adobe Photoshop! *sigh* I’m not even young…22 now and i’m in the same boat as I was when I was 18! Wears me down it really does….what a pitiful joke to rope people into getting into debt. A big “Fuck you” middle class institution is all I can say! However I DO LOVE living in a city – which is it’s saving grace.

  392. I recently started university in Wales. I am from London and have lived there all my life. I though I would be able to cope without my family, friends, and my wonderful city. As soon as I spend my first few days in my halls I knew it wasn’t the place for me, the people were small kids who drunk every night. Don’t get me wrong I love going out but not every single night, also after going to a few of the local clubs i found they were not what im used to in London. Anyway I decided after just my first month to drop out and go home. My parents weren’t happy but I just couldn’t stand being away from my home any longer. At the moment I am applying to go to uni next year through UCAS, but this time I will staying at home and going to a uni in London, back with my friends and family, and where I feel I belong. I am also applying for a different course this time around as I made a mistake last time. Like many people here I was so unhappy and the day my parents picked me up to go home was one of the best days of my life. Im currently looking for a job in what has now become my unscheduled “gap year”. I would like to say to anyone thats not happy at uni that just because you give up does not make you a failure. Just keep in your minds that we only live once, and we should all be happy and not struggle through uni if we hate it. You can be whatever you want to be regardless of a degree or not. God bless you all and good luck for the future. Knowing that im not the only one nice to know. Peace.

  393. Ive only been in uni for 2 years now, and its fuckin hell!….sometimes i think university might get u a degree but for me its about money,what the point of a degree if it makes u earn jack shit….. i am a taxi driver and i earn a good

  394. Im 22 and jst started university in Manchester. When I finished my A levels I went to work for a few year but I always look at university as an exciting, social and great thing to do. However now im here I absolutely hate it!!!!! Its not as exciting or friendly as I thought. In fact ,my freshers weeks was really shit and I hated it. It seems everyone has so much fun but me. But dont get me wrong….. I still feel university is a good thing to do. Im just feeling that I made a poor choice of university and have been unlucky enough to be stuck in a bad flatt with no life. Because im a bit older than everyone else though I feel I would be a failure and a loser to drp out as I dont have the time to waste like the rest of the 1st years. Im sooo confused.

  395. Oh shit. I just started uni in London and think it’s a fucking pointless venture. Boring lectures, boring people. But i’m all working class and stuff so my family will probably die if i ever dropped out. Does it get better or is it bollocks from beginning to end?

  396. Its so the goverment can say they have improved schools as more people go into higher education than before. Its so colleges can make lots of money and its so loan company’s can make a profit. Its all a massive con.

  397. mmm i HATE IT.. i JUST CANT STAND ANYTHING.. i mean the teachers.. the people.. the boring lectures.. for gods sake i am in design.!!!! we should be creating things.. not sitting in stupid classes listening to pointless discussions.. and it scares the hell out of me, bc i feel i am wasting my life.. I am 21!!! and i JUST FEEL sooo unhappy!!!! they only time that i feel good about my life, is when i AM AT HOME.. I already went to community college.. and finished my diploma.. and I LOVED IT.. everything the people, the course, the teachers.. amazing… but for some stupid reason I decided to go to uni and get my degree in design.. why.. bc I believed all the b.s about uni.. .

  398. Jonny Tight Lips

    I’m so bored and lonely at the moment. Can’t find anyone on my coridoor that I can relate to. They all seem to have done 10 years worth of bonding in no time, already reminiscing about the fond memories they’ve had together. They don’t appear to have a sense of humour that extends beyond creative use of curse words, so if I crack a joke I just get blank stares. Freshers’ week sucked, all clubbing with strangers which is absolutely pointless because you can’t meet friends this way. Seems like a product of unimaginative planning and a money making scheme by the uni. I’ve joined clubs and societies as well but can’t seem to connect with anyone there either. I do the activities set out by the societies but I didn’t need to come to uni to do that. Also starting to have doubts about my course as to whether it will really make a difference to my career path after 3 years, if not I don’t enjoy it enough for it to be worthwhile. I hope it get better, but if I am still in this position by Christmas I can’t see how it would improve or how I could cope with 3 years of the same. Really disappointed in uni so far.

  399. before i start this, dont get me wrong, i have ALWAYS been a sociable person with more friends than time. and there have been very few times in my life where ive felt low or sad for longer than a day. but then i came to uni…. i think the problem starts with my flatmates. i have been put in the party flat. dont get me wrong, i do like going out, but maybe once a week? these guys go out every night and come in at 3 and slam the doors and talk and wake me up…so now im so tired so i still havent a good nights sleep since ive been here.. so taht doesnt help! i also have boyfriend back home that i miss like hell. he is the love of my life weve been togther for nearly 3 years and its been harder than ever imagined. i thought id be able to dea with it, even consider ending it if it wasnt working but all that i learnt from being away from him is tht hes the one for me. so im jsut focusing on the weekend next week i can go home, which so isnt healthy. people keep telling me ill meet people on ym course and omg i hope i do! i also hope my housemates run out of money so they cannot go clubbing every day of the week. im sticking with til christmas but if i still feel like this by then, its bye bye uni…

  400. the work load has started, i’ve been ill the past week and i am dreading catching up and attempting to begin all these essays :S ugh i haaaate this

  401. At this precise moment in time i am trying to decide whether to go to a uni lecture (6pm til 9pm-WHAT THE F*CK!?!) or to go to a meeting at work.. Not very hard though..i love work and passionatly hate uni! The only thing thats tempting me to go uni is getting a Subway on the way! It just pisses me off that if i leave i will be considered socially retarded! If someone offered me a decent full time post at my current job i wouldn’t thin twice about uni. It is full of dickheads! The lecturers and students! I’m still living at home thank god..or i think i would hate it even more! I totally agree with you all..uni is a waste of time & money! It stops my social life,me making money cus of the shit hours they give you for lectures! I think i might just go on the dole, after all i can’t afford the dentist or doctors at the moment becuz students have to pay..as if paying

  402. I hate uni so much that it’s destroying me. The lecturers just expect so much. I study literature and for each course I have to read approximatly one and a half novels a week. I’m doing two classes now so that’s 3 novels per week as well as essays, presentations, exams- impossible unless you live with your mum, have your washing and cooking done for you and you have no friends or job. I just don’t understand why they expect so much. Surely they’re aware that virtually no one can read that much as well as complete essays and presentations and live. It’s as if the lecturers are trying to hurt us, leave us damaged, by setting virtually impossible tasks. It’s just so pointless. I want to leave so much but I doubt I’ll ever get a job I can live with without a degree. When will it end. I feel so trapped and powerless.I feel like I’m being crushed.

  403. sonofthedestroyer

    Wow! Amazing place. Even more comments than the ‘University sucks’ blog on Warwick which has now closed comments i think. Well i dropped out of uni in 2007. I dedicated the free time to researching government conspiracies etc and learnt more in that free year than i ever did at any point in my life. But incessant nagging from my family and extended family has forced me back to university to complete my degree. The very first day back and the aura was disgusting. I wanted to drop out again the very next day. I have decided that i will just continue to do my own things and if i fail the year, then fine, ill drop out again, leave home and find my own way somehow. Important thing i learnt when i returned to university was: It wasnt me who was not focused or happy, the system really is a bitch. I advice NOBODY to go to university. At least prostitutes get money to sell their bodies. In uni we sell our soul and lose our money also

  404. Hey well if uni is so bad then i’m glad im not going lol(well i might be soon but only if education hasn’t eaten me alive).Lets face it once we leave school everything is shit and when i mean everything i mean ‘education’.I’m at college and nothing ever exciting happens and i have to put up with 2 hour lunch breaks where i have nothing to do and nowhere to go.I hate education right now its shit

  405. Wow this really is an amazing forum! All this time I thought I was the only lonely fucker out there banging his damn head against the wall at the very thought of university. For me university was always something that just had to be done, not because I wanted to, but unfortunately we now live in a society where it is considered odd if one does not attend university. Despite all my efforts (arranging to meet with people in prominent positions in business) I decided that I would have to go, if I ever wanted to get a job worth more than 30k a year that is. I am at university now and I hate it! I am not stupid; I got good A-level results and now attend a respectable University. What I hate is the way in this country (UK) as soon as you tell anybody that

  406. I feel the same about University. You have to go through this bullshit just to be accepted by society. The society has made everybody think that University has become a necessity in life. Thats when they start taking advantages of us. IN ADDITION the lectures don’t even teach properly. Why the fuck should i pay 3 grand just to tech myself LOLL. This is to all the others out there that feels the same way. Don’t let the University break you. Have the strenght to carry on. WISH ALL OF YOU THE BEST. peace out

  407. University is just a shallow pool of mediocrity in this day and age. It’s all about quantity, never quality despite the institution’s eager, rhetorical bullshit to the contrary. Somehow as a society we’ve gotten it in your heads that if you attend a university for 3 or 4 years, waste your time, learn absolutely nothing, appreciate nothing deep, just get drunk and obnoxiously narcissistic then somehow when you’re done and get some magic piece of paper you have completed some sacred rite of passage that makes you a fulfilled and complete human being. If not, then you are worse than scum. It’s this attitude which universities embrace and preach at every opportunity (that’s when they’re not too caught up bragging about themselves). What is the point though? Just for some piece of paper, because we naively think that it’s exclusively the result that matters, not the procedure, not the path of learning and thinking? Just a very expensive piece of paper with Bachelor of Bullshits (Passing degree) written on it. Universities are inundated with people who really don’t want to be there, and why should they? Unfortunately people are forced to be there, it’s social pressure, it’s wasting the young years of our lives. There are so many fulfilling, fun, challenging, thrills out there that don’t require a university education (e.g. Navy SEALs), but I don’t have the guts to diverge from the herd, doing meaningful and fun things with my body and life is just a distant fantasy. Keep active, eat well, feel well, go above and beyond and finish that bitch off!

  408. I hate university and the douchebag profs. IF I could, I would give university such a punch in the dick it wouldn’t know what hit it.

  409. Listen Guy’s. By the time you enter uni your at least 18 years of age, so you have the right to leave. If your parents do not support you, then they only care about the way people look at them. I left uni and have never regretted it. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO END IT ALL!

  410. I’m a freshman and I really think I’ve made the wrong decision in going to university. I can’t motivate myself to do any work. I’m failing classes and I don’t even care. I can’t even be arsed to leave my room some days. Four more years of this, just to end up in a boring and unfulfilling job? No fucking thank you. I really, really want to drop out, but I’m only 17. My parents would hate me going back home, and I have no money. What would I do?

  411. My mental health has dropped to below zero since starting uni this year, fresh from working my arse off in my final year of high school. I know for a fact that there is a direct correlation between the two. Don’t go to university if you have a long-term and underlying social anxiety/depression problem. It WILL be hell. You will NOT know what to do. Get some help first. I’m not exaggerating when I tell you that my social anxiety, which I’ve had pretty severely for a few years and am only seeking help for now, SKYROCKETED since going to uni. I don’t know if it’s uni’s fault, but most people’s core personalities there don’t seem to help with the problem. Lesson number one of university: people don’t give a shit. I was soo disappointed after my first semester, when I went to all my classes, did the work, tried to talk to people and make friends, joined some clubs. I trusted my instincts and just tried to be myself, which obviously doesn’t gel with the strategic way most people go about their lives, including making friends and being honest about themselves. Lesson number two of university: you’re never good enough. Fast forward one semester later, and I can’t even keep up with what day it is. I’m skipping more than half of my classes (there’s two weeks left, then exams, then summer, thank FUCK). I just don’t care anymore. I don’t want to sound melodramatic, but it’s just been a very lonely, frustrating year. I went in with the best intentions, knew that it wouldn’t be easy to meet people at first, but I’ve just come out disillusioned and seriously pissed off. I have no idea what step to take next.

  412. Been here a month. Can’t stand it and want to drop out for a year and then come back. Any one out there done this and did it make a difference? Were you a changed person?

  413. I’m back! and I’m struggling to be honest. Everyone here is so clique. I was very lucky to be educated at a private school but now I’m here all the people from similar schools have taken gap years, seem older and already know one another. Long hair, tracksuits and flipflops all the time. All they care about is getting completely off their face. I’m feeling the most depressed and the most insecure I have ever felt.

  414. My course isn’t actually that bad (yet) but I just haven’t adapted to uni life. I feel that I have nothing to offer to anyone and even though I met some down to earth and friendly people who I hang out with, I’m sure I’m going to blow it and soon they’ll see me as that really annoying person. I’ve always been shy and lacking in confidence but this is just damaging. My room is sooooooo depressing. I hate it and I hate being in it. Perhaps I should join some societies and sports teams but then again if I leave then it will have been money wasted. Everyone told me to take a year out and I didn’t and now I want to go everyone is saying stick it out longer so that you can really be sure but if I wait too long then my year out won’t be charecter changing and so I still won’t fit in. AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHH!

  415. Johny Right Lips

    Dave, seriously what is the deal with the flip flops? I have never seen guys walking around an urban environment with flip flops on before, but everyone at uni does it, WHY? Other than that, been here a month now and still haven’t met anyone that I get along with well. I honestly believe that you do not need to come to uni to gain knowledge. It is all there in the course textbooks, which can be bought from Amazon or other book shops. Tutorials are relatively useless and lectures just give a less detailed version of the textbook material. However if you went for a job with vast knowledge on a subject from independent research, and someone else went for the same job with a 2:2 Bachelors in the subject from Generic University, I think you know who would get the job. Open University seems quite appealing.

  416. uni is shit. use to be straight A student in high-school and always pressured to “achieve the best” uni isn’t the best i been going on and off to uni for four years i don’t know any other way out i wish i did

  417. hi all, i really know how u all feel, i often feel the same way when it comes to the work load and the “help” that lecturers give u. one of my friends nearly died in an accident last year, i had coursework due in that week so i applied for an extension and was given 3 days. all i could think was “yea 3 days will help me get that finished when i dont know if my friend is going to live or die!” but even though there have been many bad and lonely experiences there have also been some great ones. i waslucky enough to go into a degree that i still enjoy (i’m in my 4th year doing psychology) and i have met lots of genuine and lovely people. for the people who havn’t made any friends yet, maybe u should try joining a club or society? one of the sports teams i am friends with are all very close (and are far from ur “normal” jocks) and we still see people who have finished their degrees and left uni. There’s usually a club or society for everyones tastes, and if there isn’t, u could try making your own? just remember that there is always someone out there in the same situation as u! and yes, for the most part, uni really does suck ass.

  418. I found this webpage by typing in Google, ‘I hate uni.’ I just had to post something :P I hate uni too.

  419. i hate uni.. its a total shit hole man.. im living with a bunch of people who keep me out of what they do. i try to talk to them and they will talk to me but as soon as someone else calls them they go there and never come back and its like im being left out…and another thing that pisses me off is that im the only coloured person in my group. the rest are all white… im not rascist but imgaine urself in my sitauation its like going to a boarding school. so you know what im doing dropping the fuck out… FUCKKKKKKKKK UNIIIIIIIIIII ITS A LOAD OF SHIT.. I HOPE ALL UNIS GET BURNT DOWN… GOING TO UNI DONT MEAN ULL HAVE A GOOD JOB U STILL MAYBE WORKING AT SOME SHIT RETAIL PLACE OR TELESALES ALL YOUR LIFE.. WHAT GOOD AHS THE DEGREE DONE THANN>> WASTE OF MONEY IF U ASK ME.. IF UR NOT DOING MEDICINE THAN SCRAP UNI …. CUZ UR NOT GUARANTEED A JOB

  420. Hi dave.. i dropped out last year and didnt like it and i have come back now and still dont like it so im dropping out and strating a course in january… it maybe that u dont like the location ur studying at.. im studying away from hoem and to be honest its a whole load of bullshit… spending money and money on what.,.. partying … and bullshit,.. nah id rather be at home.. so jus stick with what u think is best but before u make a rapid decision make sure u have something secured like a job because sitting at home for a week will get u bored and youll wish u were at uni so THINK…. FUCK UNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

  421. oh my gosh, ive been here over a month now an i hate it now as much as i did when i started. it doesnt get better!!! i have never met so many arrogant, pretentious people all in one place in all my life. the girls look down on you if you’re dressed head to toe in fuckin designer or river island or top shop clothes carryin ridiculously huge bags. my friends think im insane for hatin uni because they love it, but i just dont get it!! i took a gap year before comin, an i know what fun is an this isnt it!! the lack of actual teachin is shocking. basically im payin over 3 grand a year for them to give you a reading list of over priced book an assignments that you get zero help on. and if i wasnt stuck in a tenency agreement i’d get out of this hell hole as soon as i could

  422. I hate uni too, my parents have always told me its a fast track to getting a good job. Im an only child and without meaning to they have put a lot of pressure on me by paying for me to go to a private school when they couldn’t afford it; and even 2 years on they are still in debt over it. Im really grateful to them, but there is no way im guna send my kids to private school, its too much pressure to do well and go to uni. Now im at uni i have little interest in learning and would like nothing better than to work as Cabin Crew for Virgin or BA. there really isn’t anything in particular that i hate about uni, i just feel that had i been givin the choice like most people are, then i wouldn’t have gone. Now im wasting my money, time and general happiness simply because i feel controlled. my boyfriend keeps saying if it makes you that unhappy then just leave, but he doesn’t understand how much my parents want me to do this. To be honest, before i started uni i used to think that drop outs where a waste of space in society, but now iv experienced what its like, theres no one i respect more for making their own firm decision about leaving…. coz im telling you, i haven’t got the fuckin guts!

  423. Guys, I feel sorry for you all. Uni was frickin awesome! Yeah, lectures and work sucks, but the social aspect kicked ass. Peace out to you all though, I hope you guys find it within yourselves to be happy elsewhere in life.

  424. i hate university. fuckin bullshit. i have been here for 5 weeks and it is shit. i havent made friends coz most people in there cosy little groups are just a bunch of wankers. the lecturers are shit. there is shit all to do. i hate being on my own considering i hate lots of mates before uni. a waste of money if you ask me. quitting not an option coz i wont know what to do in life and my parents would be so dissappointed. fucking uni i hate it.

  425. my Life plan (as i jsut started my 1st semester at Uni, and its already killing me.. im 19): – Go to Uni (finance bac) and finish it asap (30 classes/3yrs) to please my fkn parents. (obviously im not the one paying, i would have fukd uni a long time a go) – So by 22 i should have gotten my diplomae – Make my clothing brand and work at some random bank just to use my diploma for some reason – wait until im 23-24 to get my real estate certificate thing – by 25, live my life (work hard at selling houses, earning good money, going to the gym, meeting poeples… etc.. things i cant do as a student fkn bulshyt) – what makes wanna drop out? – as someone said earlier: Mycreativity is dying. I used to think i was different, special, had great things to offer the world… now i can see i am worth nothing, as all those things have been killed + 2012 (i would feel like a cunt if i study hard 3 yrs, and the yr i graduate, somethings fuks up the world and i realise i never really enjoyd it.. cuz of fkn uni) yeh i typed i hate univeristy as well ahahha feels great im not the only one What Uni Are you guys going? Im going to Concordia Uni. Montreal.. i live like an hour from my school, at home. I dont really chill out with the peeps i talk to during my calsses or breaks.. the only peeps i chill out with are My friends from high school

  426. i typed “hate university” into google to get here too. i came to uni straight out of high school, changed from B of I.T to B of Multimedia Maj. internet Computing (Web programming basically). took a gap year to make up my gpa + work for a bit. so i’ve now been here for 4 years, making it 16 years of constant education. my university is the fucking dodgiest of all universities that i know of, but somehow, we have the best multimedia degree? if that’s the case, all other uni’s here must be FUCKED. unlike the guy above me, i know i’m still different and i still have my creativity, but i can’t apply it to my degree at all. i find more satisfaction in playing with my fiance’s car. swapping engines, modifying it and just generally making it run harder/better/faster have gives me the most satisfying results. i think this is mostly because i have never turned a spanner on a car before i started a month or so ago. i’ve learned so much and have had so much fun doing it. hopefully tomorrow i will have ironed out the final 2 niggling problems, then it’s time for its maiden voyage :) i know that i would hate to do it for a living, though, but i know it would have delieverd me more satisfaction if i didn’t have the looming thought of “if you keep doing this, you’re going to fall behind with uni” – which i did. then i got screwed by work and a month later, am still trying to get paid for my labour. i was taking time from uni to do that job and now it’s just screwed me totally. so now i have had to cut my losses, quit my job plus try and pick up the pieces of uni for the last couple of weeks. i’ve failed 1 subject for certain and now have an exam tomorrow for a subject that i hate (project management), the lecturer is a total fucktard who thinks she’s a “real world graduate”. i (and everyone else) can tell that she’s the “real world office dullard” you encounter in every office situation. i haven’t studied for it because i just plainly do not give a shit. once that’s over i have an exam for a 0 credit point subject (that’s not a type, it’s a zero credit point subject) two days after and have an assignment for another subject due this friday (today is monday). then for this year, this bullshit is finally over. i’ve just gotta finish my final year next year, including doing the subjects that i’ve failed (1 last semester, 1 this semester, hopefully i’ll pass the other 2). it’s going to be a fucking full-on year. failure is not an option beacuse my fiance and i are planning on moving back to her hometown (23 hrs drive away) as she hates it here. i’m all for it, but the added pressure on me to pass uni etc is fucking ridiculous. we’re getting married in this coming february. saving for that wedding is nearly a non-existant process on my behalf. at the moment i cannot afford the time to work and study. hopefully i can scrape enough cash together between the end of this week and then, to pay for my share. i love that girl so much and can’t bare the thought of letting her down. so yeah, cross your fingers for me. i’ll do the same for you guys :) oh and good news, australia is getting an uastralia-wide standard for modifications. so i’ll be able to modify a supra when we move to adelaide :)

  427. uni is so shit. it would just be averagely shit but students make it unbearable. they are a higgledy piggledy rag-tag bunch of misfit cunts who all think that their false opinions are of any sort of interest to somebody because they are doing some shit course in latin american studies or something. all they do is go out and get pissed up and think that they are enjoying themselves when actually they just want to fit in because they are not ready to join the real world and think that being a proper dick is some kind of achievement. its gonna be so funny when they get out of uni and realise that they cannot walk into a job just because they might have been a representative or something and they are able to talk shit to dickheads who validate them by pretending that the shit they are coming out with is in someway insightful or interesting. they will end up in shitty middle management 30k a yr jobs with 99% of the other cunts. when i am an employer i will laugh these dickheads out of my office and employ people with some kind of social aptitude or genuine intelectual quality not some fake little middle class prick who thinks he’s gonna change the world by paying 20p for the guardian instead of 80p. wankers. 8 months to go, then i wont have to be surrounded by this bunch of idiots any longer.

  428. what other things do YOU hate about students??

  429. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4PjOgf2w0xs <—- STUDENTS lol, pricks

  430. Johnny Tight Lips

    That video is painful to watch, fucking idiots. I hate all the people at uni who view socialising as a game where they have to collect as many friends as possible. Also people who have no real personality so they just slag off anything and anyone to make themselves look better by comparison, bitches. There’s always the standard “she’s well fit, so is she, oooooo so is she” dialogue that outstayed it’s welcome before it arrived. University is just a myth of social nirvana, which the majority force themselves to buy into, just so they can say what a fucking amazing time they had at uni.

  431. Miss California

    I just started uni a few months ago and was really excited from hearing all these great storied off people who have been. But not that I’m hear I hate it. All my lectures are just repeating the stuff I learned in college and I have no friends. All anyone’s interested in is how much you drink, how good looking you are or where you’ve gone back packing. I feel like I should just quite now

  432. WOW WOW WOW EVERYTHING PEOPLE HERE ARE SAYING IS SO FUCKING TRUE!! I too haven’t made too many friends yet. I mean sure, I’ve talked to people – but many of them strike me as a bit manupilative and ready to screw you oveer and smile as they do it. I don’t know, just something about SOME people there cannot and should not be trusted. The good thing is, it’s obvious to spot. I agree that the work there is absolute shit. Most people don’t admit it when I ask them – that’s when you know you’ve stumbled on a manipulator or a liar. If someone says a class is “easy” when you are a honor roll student doing the same shit as them, no, it’s not easy – they aren’t being honest. They’re being guarded and making it like they know what the fuck is going on. Truth is – FEW PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO!! The most fucked up thing is the profs. I have a lady you barely speaks english and she teaches us math. It’s like learning math and Chinese at the same time. It’s wayyy too hard and people either get it or they fail. Right now I’m failing it and I’ve talked to 2 people who are doing the stupid class again. It’s fucked up, it shouldn’t be like that. I don’t want to lose my friends (which I think I am) and I don’t want to lose my sanity or drain my parents by compaining any longer. It does turn you into an emo. But I think you just have to trust yourself, remember the old you and just grit your teeth and tell those profs exactly what they want to hear. Once you’re out of there then you can follow exactly what you want and how you want it. Fuck it, use univesrity the same way it’s using you for money. Use it for a degree, fight your way into a good job with some ass kissing and then take it from there and do it by your own morals. It’s fucked up to think of it that way, but that’s life. It’s competitive as hell and everyone is kind of out for themselves. Thankfully my university isn’t WAY competitive but there are a few assholes who you can spot from miles away. Fuck sometimes it feels good just to rant and let it all out. But honestly, guys if I knew you in real life I would be friends with every single one of you. There’s NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU. I’m pretty shy sometimes but hell, I’m a fun person who likes to go work out, shop, dress up and go do something when I want. Just because I don’t have someone to hang out with 24/7 on campus doesn’t mean that I’m weird. Don’t think that way about yourselves either guys, honestly!!!!

  433. I am kobe i didnt go to university but i got to fuck vanessa (altho i dont think she is pretty) erm thats it

  434. I just got evicted from my residence for having a fucking half decent party and now I’m sleeping in the library because that’s the only fucking place I have. I’ve sent in an appeal to the heartless bastards who thought eviction was the best decision to make concerning a party that ended with nobody getting hurt and no damage being done. Yeah, people smoked in the hallways. Universities are clever in making you feel empowered and then when shit hits the fan you realize you have absolutely no god damn rights and they fuck you with a 6 foot pole made of tree bark. I had to evict my place in 24 hours, it took me 3 days to move in and its been a week and still no word on my appeal. Universities are no more than greedy corporate fucks that make millions of dollars from impoverished students that think they are getting a life. Like many of you have said, its sucking the life out of me. I feel I am a pretty bright guy but this institution constantly makes you feel like an idiot that’s never good enough and your self worth is measured by how many hours you slave away memorizing idioms or writing essays. I am so close to throwing in the towel and burning down this whole fucking place. I feel frustrated, stuck, and castrated. I thought university would be a saving grace. All it has done is choke my creativity and intellectual capacity and desire to truly think outside the box to make this world a better place. I feel like graduating from university will just make me an advanced robot of society. I wish I was born 10000 years ago so i could just hunt and be a normal human. Fuck this shit.

  435. wow. i am so happy to find out that im not alone:D in my country higher education is free, at least i dont have that problem. but everything else that has already been said – it was like reading my own thoughts. first and foremost, it should be illegal to go to uni right after high school! (99% of those who go, dont have ANY idea why they are going. they dont care what they are studying, they have no plan, they get eaten by the system or slave themselves through it thanks to fear and end up with a heart stroke:))seriously, higher education gets worse and worse with every year, there is NO quality (at least here) and there wont be any quality until universities are full of students who study just to get grades. (and teachers who teach just to get money). who to blame? the parents!(i know that they only want good, but they should remember that the road to hell is also paved with good intentions) “you will get nowhere without a diploma, graduate and then go see the world, blablabla…you are no one without higher education. blabla”BLABLABLA. i am so mad at this point in my life – mad at myself. i will NEVER ever again in my entire life let someone make a decision for me. but the worst part is that i dont have the guts to end it… i hate what im studying, i will never work in that field, but i feel like my mom would shoot me and herself if i`d drop out. stay strong everybody.

  436. Hey everyone! I found this site via Google and boy am I glad! I can relate to what all of you have said. I’m actually in grad school now but I hated university from day 1. That’s more than 5 years of torture really… University is so meaningless that it truly amazes me that I actually survived it. So basically life from about age 5 is all about studying and then working? Remember the quote from fightclub ” We work jobs we hate to buy shit we dont need” All I can say to all of you is life is very short so dont stay at university just because other people expect it of you. You are not your grades, your cars, your bank account. Don’t stay in university just to please your parents either-I know my parents spent most of their savings on my education but university sucked the life out of me. I’d rather quit something I hate and be happy than be a miserable educated fool. No wonder so many people are depressed-I’m amazed thereare people who can go to university and actually maintain their sanity. Go with your heart-however hard that maybe. Don’t waste your life doing what you hate. Try and find a job that you can enjoy a bit, that doesnt stress you out and that can give you some free time-even if that means taking a lower paying job. I’d rather go live on some tropical island and be a baker or something than do this university thing again. This is YOUR life. Live your life according to your own values. And if something doesnt make you happy give it up already.

  437. Hi all! I must say everything I’ve read so far is quite true. I’m in my last year of uni and actually finish in about 6 months but it’s never been harder to get up every day and drag myself to uni. I don’t know what it’s like in other countries but German universties just suck! They don’t teach you anything but expect from you that you already know everything. On top of that many students I’ve ancountered act like they’re sooo superior and regard you as a little piece of dirt. Let’s not start talking about profs either, most of them really don’t give a shite about you and are happy to make you feel like ignorant little idiots! After all those years of studiying I really feel like I haven’t learned a thing, besides I could have looked up most of the things at home and teach myself there but a bloody uni certificate seems to be the one holy paper that gets you through life. I’m glad when it’s all over and am happy about every day I survive in this place of hell! However, I really don’t see an alternative… with all the economy crap going on and people losing their jobs the ones without “qualifications” will end up under a bridge or something. But let me just say one more thing: if you make it through uni it’ll turn you into a much stronger person and after all you can be proued to having mastered this challenge. All the best to my fellow sufferers!

  438. I hate University. I hate all the people who have so many fucking friends and hang out with people every night. If I wasn’t at University it wouldn’t matter that I don’t have many mates but a few close ones, and stay in most nights. But cos I’m at uni, i’m a freak. Crap housemates who go out all the time when I’d love housemates who would want to stay in and hang out in the evenings. I’m crap at writing essays so i’ve pretty much no chance at getting a 2:1 even though I really need one to be able to become a teacher. Plus, my seminar leaders mark essays a lot harsher than people I know’s seminar leaders do. The whole thing just sucks and i’m stuggling and no one will help me write a better essay and I don’t have a huge group of mates like every single other person ever seems to, and i’m not stupid and i’m not boring. It just sucks!!!!

  439. commented back in october and tbh things had got a bit better since then. I found some guys to hang out with and things were going well. we’ve been on nights out, eaten meals together, played sport. just found out that amongst themselves they’re all sorted in terms of living arrangements next year. I’m not. I’m in trouble here, i would say there’s only 3 other people i’d really consider living with and i know that 2 of them are sorted as well. that leaves me one person but i’m scared to ask cos if he’s sorted then i’ll feel really, really low. i have no idea what happens if i genuinely have nowhere to live. the problem is everyone else is getting sorted too so even if i go on to meet some nice people later it’ll be too late. i’m screwed and i’m starting to feel that lonliness and despair that i originally felt when i came. at least it’s almost the holidays, but i don’t think that’ll be much fun if i don’t know where i’m living.

  440. Jonny Tight Lips

    Fuck uni! I’m getting so sick of it. I would rather just do the reading at home, because lectures and tutorials are fucking useless. Far too many pricks here as well, I’m sure you really did find yourself on your gap year, were you up your arse by any chance? If you don’t like sport, Scrubs, being a bitch or drinking until you shit your kidneys out, then uni is gonna suck unless you love your chosen subject.

  441. LIFE IS A MAKE MONEY SITUATION AND THERE IS MORE THAN ONE WAY OF DOING IT. UNIVERSITY INDIVIDUALS ARE LOST THATS WHY THEY ARE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. THEYRE A BUNCH OF LOOSERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  442. i’m generally a laid back happy person but since university has started, i’ve been nothing but a ball of emotions. Crying one day, Pissed off the next…why even now, i’ve been so depressed i can’t even get out of bed. Why do we put ourselves through university? Its nothing but a bunch of pretentious, snobby bastards all out to get each other and compete. I’ve made like 5 friends in the 3 years i’ve suffered and in the end, just doesn’t feel worth it. way too sad and i fel hopeless. Fuck.

  443. Found this site via google like a lot of people seem to. I’m a third year student and have been massively disappointed with the whole university experience. I know I was too enthusiastic before I came here but based on what I’ve heard from my friends (none of them went to the same university as me) they all seem to have had a much better time than I have. I always thought your best memories were supposed to come from you time at uni but all the things i think back on that make me laugh are either from school or from my second year where i went to north america. I’m from south london and don’t seem to meet people i have anything in common with here. People here tend to be ‘rahs’ or country bumpkins who went here so they could avoid going anywhere near a big city. I met plenty of people in my first year but never really felt i bonded with them. This seemed to be confirmed last year when none of them spoke to me while I was gone, but I wasn’t pissed off about it. I realised i wasn’t bothered about speaking to them either; i could quite easily have never come back to this place and not missed it. People i met declared that i was ‘weird’ because my family didn’t all eat dinner together every night, and because i didn’t like watching disney films because i think theyre mostly for children. Last year i had a much better time. I was in a city about 10 times the size of where i am now (about 100,000 people here, about 1,000,000 there), i felt i had more in common with the other exchange students than i did with my fellow students back in england, and it was awesome being a novelty to the canadians i met. It’s not as if last year was perfect, and there were times i wanted to come home. But whenever i felt like that i never wanted to come home and not go back; i felt like i wanted a weekend in my own bed and to see my friends from school, but i would want to be back in canada on monday. Right now I would quite happily pack my stuff up and drive home tomorrow. I’m living with a couple of people I knew from the first year and a couple of their friends now (just to make things even better I’ve ended up in a room thats roughly the same size as a prison sell, and to make up for it each of my housemates is paying me 46 pounds for the year. less than 200 hundred quid to spend a year in a cupboard while they all have a decent sized space and a double bed)I constantly look forward to going home for Christmas and the only thing that puts me off is the embarassment of speaking to my friends and admitting how much of a crap time i’m having. Even worse, one of my friends now tells me she wants to come here to do the same subject as me. She’s saying she want’s to come and stay next term and I would be genuinely embarassed to show any of my friends around down here. I came back after my year abroad with the intention of being more positive and enthusiastic, and i have tried to get some practical stuff done (joining societies, etc) but find that pretty much all the people in my year have made their good friends by now (they have been with each other for 2 years after all!). I’ve pretty much lost interest in my course. I do english lit, which i loved at school, but now constantly feel that I’m reading books that no-one outside of a university would ever read, not to mention the secondary sources (critical analysis etc). I try to read them but realise i don’t give a shit. I thought studying english would give me an insight into how to write, but all it seems to tell you is how to waste your time thinking about totally trivial ‘deep’ topics. I’m going to graduate in less than 5 months and don’t feel like I’ve learnt anything relevant in my entire time here. I know now that i picked the wrong university. I might well have got sick of studying the same way somewhere else, but at least i might have enjoyed myself. If i hated my course but i was living with good friends who made me laugh i think it would probably be ok. As it is i feel like I’ve had one good year out of three (which is more than some people get i suppose)and I’ve managed to waste thousands of pounds of both my own money and my parents. I’m going to come out with a degree that doesn’t get you into any well paid jobs and having had a crap time for 2 years out of the three. I don’t feel like i can drop out now, having completed 2 years and being on course for a 2:1 but it’s hard to resign yourself to being pretty miserable for 5 months. comments, ideas, suggestions, questions all welcome. cheers

  444. ive only been in uni for half a term and its killing me, i thought uni would be the place where i actaully learn new stuff that intrests me. stuff that i wudve never learnt in high school. but i have to take these crap courses that do nothing (i.e. electives and irrelavant core courses). and as ppl say that ur frnds in uni are the best frnds, no that bullshit, the frnds i made here are so lifeless (probably suffer from the same situation as us) and boring, and its not becoz i didnt noe them better becoz in high school i made good fun frnds in just a week, ppl i enjoy hanging out with, not a bunch of boring dipshits who judge you becoz of ur marks or the amount of hours u fukin spent studying. fuck this… i have to say after i wrote all that i do feel slightly better =P

  445. Well, I feel better now. After typing ‘I hate Uni’ into google this thread came up; its incredible how I can identify with so many of you. I’m doing an arts course, have made one friend who is dropping out very soon, and feel as though I am surrounded by pretentious people. I thought university would be about breaking out of categories but whatever you were classed as at school you carry it with you. The only thing keeping me is my own pride and the fear that I will later in life regret it. But currently I wish I was working in a supermarket or something! There must come a point for the tutors that they have worked for so long that they lose all will to give meaning to people. As you all have said; Fuck You Uni!

  446. I’m really good at pissing people off. I’m mean I’m good when I don’t mean to, but I’m REALLY good when I want to get under someone’s skin. Why is this the only thing I find easy!?! Baisically I’ve been here for just over 2 months and I’ve pretty much pissed off everyone I hang out with. Shit. I just don’t know what to do. If I don’t have anyone to live with by the summer I’m out of here. So what if I’m a so called ‘rah’ – (I went to private school but trust me I’m not one of those cnuts!) I’m just not interested, but I’ve done one term now so I may as well stick out the year, so at least if I DO pull out I’ve made some progress. I hate my life at the mo, to be totally honest, but I’ll stick with it, because I’m part fighter and part pussy. happy days.

  447. ok why did that come out 4 times? lol.

  448. hmmm only twice now. trust me i haven’t been getting pissed to drown my sorrows. haha. oh and by the way i reckon everyone found this site via google-i certainly did! ha.

  449. “Don’t go to university if you have a long-term and underlying social anxiety/depression problem. It WILL be hell. You will NOT know what to do.” Oh christ I wish I knew that before I came. I was hoping I’d have gotten off the whole suicidal ideation thing when I came here, but its just gotten worse and worse. :( I’m going back home on the 18th thank god. Also this place really needs a forum…

  450. i agree the people at uni are fucked up bore bags, eitherr that or smack head toss pots!!!!! thank fook this is my last year!

  451. I am so happy that i’m not the only one around that really doesn’t like university. I came here because it was the ‘natural’ and ‘normal’ thing to do. My whole life i was brought up with “go top uni, get a good job”, mainly because both my parents and all my family are workers and worked their asses off for a bum paycheck. But the thing is, i don’t see what big a deal uni is. Its boring. That fucking simple. Just a boring four years of poverty, lack of sex (unless you are willing to shag the wasted girls at the end of a night for four years in a row). The friendship is crap. everyone sticks together because there is nothing better to do. i’m a first year student in glasgow and glasgow is a beautiful city but so dull. All you get is bars and DnB. i like both but after a couple of months u start missin the shitty clubs where people would go to just for the laugh and not just for the fucking music. I miss the pubs. i miss not only hanging around with students. In fact fuck students. everyone is so fake and actually believe they’re gonna get out of uni with a degree that will really help them out in life. But half of the british population goes to uni anyway so a degree really isn’t that special anymore. U wanna get up in life u have to get a masters. And why the fuck do that in the first place when no one wants to study, regardless of how much of a geek they are. But then again I worked full time for a summer and even though the money and experience was good, theres no way i wanna be a waiter the rest of my life. So what do I do? Stick and have four years of shit that will only result with a piece of paper that ‘demonstrates’ i’m more intelligent than the average person? Drop out and be looked down upon by most of my family and be really fucking pissed off if people I know at uni finish and end up earnin double what I get? What the fuck do I do? i stay, i leave. Both have a huge downfall to them. The only real happiness I’ve had lately is actually finding you guys that hate uni too. Thought i was the odd one out in the whole of fuckin britain

  452. I’m so glad to know other people hate uni. I started two months ago and it was great at first but then I realised i hate my course and i’ve basically just made a really bad start. I dont know what i want to do after uni but i dont want to be in debt for the next ten years of my life so im seriously considering dropping out at the end of this term. Has anyone out there done the same thing?

  453. I am very glad to see people with the same thoughts as mine. University is absolute horse shit. Unless your going to completely change who you are to fit in you will be unhappy. The Universities in Canada for the most part are just full of drunk fucking retards. Is anyone here attending the University of Waterloo?

  454. Everyone tells you that the point of uni is to become a “well rounded” person—socially and academically and is not about learning things but “how to learn”…this is the biggest crock of shit I’ve ever heard. No one, I REPEAT, no one goes to uni to become well rounded or to LEARN HOW TO LEARN! Here are the real reasons why I think people go, regardless of what common sense dictates… 1) People are there b/c everyone says it’s the only way to be happy/earn money. 2) Don’t know wtf else to do and just follow everyone else. 3) Pressured from parents/peers and are afraid they’re going to be labeled failures for not going/dropping out. 4) Before getting into uni they have this image in their heads of how wonderful uni life is…fuck, are they ever in for a shitty surprise (I was one of them) And so us students go on feeling miserable, putting ourselves through hell and back, all so we can earn this shiny piece of paper that basically says “if I can put up with uni/college, I can certainly put up with your bullshit.” WOW education sucks.

  455. Wow, everyone on this forum is a whiner. Whine whine whine. If you don’t like university, then drop out and be a failure for the rest of your miserable life. The reason why so many of you put up with uni, even though you hate it, is because you know deep down this is the only way to get any job worth jack shit once you’re out. I can hear it now, “plenty of people didn’t go to university or college and they’re successful.” Sure, if you’re a somebody like Bill Gates or Steve Jobs…but I’m willing to bet that the majority of the people who write on here are nothing like these two men. Unless you’ve got the greatest idea since google, I suggest you shut your mouth and just do your work. You know, work, something YOU HAVE TO DO once you get into a uni/college. If you look at uni as part of a bigger picture, it’s really just one last hurdle to jump over…when you die, do you want to be remembered as the person who buckled down and did what had to be done, or the person who let everyone down (including himself/herself) and quit at the last stretch of the race because it got “too hard.” If you have any brains at all, you’ll choose the latter. If you don’t well I guess I’ll see you at the Golden Arches–”would you like some fries with that.” HAHAHAHA, wow I’m awesome.

  456. fuck you REAL. we’re just sharing our opinions and expressing how we feel about about the university.

  457. Thank GOD I found this site. Before I got to University I was such a cheerful, easy going person. In high school I was practically friends with everybody and was on the principles honor role for all 4 years. I had a great passion for learning, particularly literature and poetry. Everything in high school was awesome; the parties, teachers, my social life, EVERYTHING. But everything changed once I got to university. Before I spent my first week at university, I had this vision of what it was like: awesome classes, supportive professors, great friendships that would form, then afterward I would be out in the “real world” doing what I loved to do. After just one month, practically everyday I was saying to myself “What did I get myself into? This is nothing like I expected it to be.” I considered myself to be an intelligent, decent person before I came. But now my marks are continually dropping, I have no social life, and for some reason I always feel out of place and surrounded by self centered animals stuck in the same boat I am. It got so bad that I would cry just from all the stress that would build up and pretty soon I was seriously contemplating suicide. I was a wreck (maybe I’m just crazy?). At one point, I was actually preying to God if he could kill me. I can’t bear to tell my parents that I want to drop out. It would break their hearts, especially my mom. But everyday I stay here, a little piece of my old self is stripped away from me and replaced with something totally different, an idea I am not comfortable with. Everyday I have to wake up and drag myself out of bed, I feel sick to my stomach that I have to experience the same thing over and over again. I feel myself breaking down and I don’t know how much more bullshit I can take. I can’t see what was once my bright and optimistic future. It’s like voluntarily going to prison, serving for a crime you didn’t commit. May we all get through this somehow-there’s gotta be a way, there just has to be.

  458. “this is the only way to get any job worth jack shit once you’re out. ” BA’s are dime a fucking dozen (BSC’s = lab tech work). If you don’t have the connections (ie, “like omg my like dad is like gonna get me a job at like the UN”*) or you didn’t major in engineering, you’re still fucked job outlook wise. More so now that its recession time, hooray! Also JJ I was at the one across the street…thought you guys would have had it different haha. *overheard @ Laval University this summer. I can’t make this shit up.

  459. Yet another lonely soul wanders over to this site after typing “I hate university” into Google… I’m over in Canada finishing up my degree, and despite having just one semester yet, am not even sure I can do it. My family’s currently downstairs, and I’m sitting up here all alone as if I were a social outcast. It’s not the workload, or the reading, or what not. That actually hasn’t been so bad (not that’s it been easy, but it can definitely be done). It’s the soul-sucking atmosphere of university. That’s what has gotten to me. The redundant classes, the fact that it cost thousands to be there and yet the information being handed to me could probably all be found on Wikipedia… The loneliness, oh, the loneliness. We just show up to class, do what we gotta do, then walk out. The conversations I’ve had with acquaintances have been mainly class related. It’s been almost four years, and I haven’t made one actual friend there. Not ONE. Acquaintances, sure, but then lose touch with them once the school year’s done. Part of that’s my fault, I’ll accept it. I’ve always been shy and somewhat withdrawn, but NEVER to this extent. University is the crusher of soul and mind. I am mush, a shadow of what I once was. I could have dropped out… but then were would I have gone? What will I do once I graduate? I came to university for answers, for knowledge, and I leave with even more questions and feeling a lot more ignorant…

  460. I graduated in the 1980′s which makes me old enough to be your mother! Your comments move me to tears. It is so sad to think of you all sitting in your halls or dingy little rooms (they haven’t changed – still damp, eh?) and feeling like this. I got a 2:1 degree. There are many ways you can look at this. Getting that damn degree must be like reaching the summit of a mountain, whether you use it in life or not. You damn well did it – and not to do it, not to finish it, may prey on your minds way into your future. If you are the sort of person who regrets things and holds onto that regret, then you must carry on BUT you MUST make your life as pleasant as possible – by rewarding yourself in any way that helps. That can be a trip home, it can even be a new cd or a takeaway so you dont have to cook. If I could survive like this, there isnt one of you that won’t feel a bit better. If you aren’t the sort of person who carries regret and guilt around, then seriously consider dropping out. You are not defeatists, you are brave, you are so brave to do it. You have to respect yourself. It takes a big person to stop and say, I’ve made a wrong choice and I’m going back to that crossroads and I’m going to go a different way. If your parents are anything like good parents, they will have their 10 minutes of ranting, then they will HELP you. Give yourself a couple of weeks to relax and recover and then get thinking. You are all very intelligent people. I was reading about the girl who wanted to be a hairdresser but her parents didnt want her to do that. As an example, that is a fantastic choice of career! Everyone needs their hair cutting so the market is huge. Once an intelligent girl finds her feet, she will realise that she can specialise. There are cancer sufferers/baldies etc., for example, who will use the services of people who can weave new hair into their existing hair to thicken/replace etc. You can start your own business/chain of shops! You can develop products etc. Becoming a hairdresser and braving the numpties as colleagues for a while, would be a fantastic career! It is one of the things that will get you into Australia – they are crying out for hairdressers! You could begin a new life (post-university) by volunteering for a few months and seeing where that leads. You could work in any area (pubs, walking dogs!) and build up money to travel and that can throw up all sorts of things. One thing is certain, university is not the only option for all you intelligent, fantastic young people – even if you have incurred debt and feel you ought to press on (you can save MORE debt by dropping out!). The government cannot get it out of you until you are earning over

  461. So i attend this well known school…uva. I hate it! there is no diversity, no life, no culture. its cold and boring. one of my roommates is almost obsessive over the stupid university- she cried over the fact that fall semester is over…and now i’m crying over the fact that spring semester is starting… i have 53 credits out of the 120 that is needed to graduate- life is going to be real shitty untill my last semester here…i hate this farm county/”public ivy leuage”/pompous elite lifestyle…help

  462. Some of my friends across the world at different unis all say uni sucks. So it is a global phenomenon. And my friends were high fliers in school. I think it is the nasty atmosphere in uni that gets people emotionally down. One of my mates has his dissertation coming up. He is instead playing computer games 24/7 cos he says he hates uni so much. He has asked the uni permission to hand in his dissertation like 1-2 months past the deadline. And this same guy got straight As for his A-level and O-levels and was a sports champion in school also. AS for getting jobs with a degree? Depends on what profession you want to follow. If it is the mainstream stuff a degree is worthless. It is only valid for would-be scientists/doctors/lawyers and such. I know enough people with degrees who are depressed as the have been unsuccessfully job hunting for months. I also know those with degrees who only got jobs due to proving they had work experience.

  463. Hi guys you might like this site here http://advice.notgoingtouni.co.uk/2008/11/top-reasons-people-dont-go-to-uni/ it’s all about how uni isn’t the be all and end all of life. I hated university all the way through the three worthless years I spent there. Everyone told me that I HAD to go or I’d never get a proper job and ANY degree opens doors and that EVERYONE loves it. When I hated it everyone told me that any day now I would suddenly start loving it and would wake up every day and sing songs of worship to the wonderful place and rah rah rah. I gritted through it and slugged away at a course I found boring, pointless and easy (english) and graduated with a 2:1. I wish I could tell you that it all paid off but it just didn’t. Graduates are ten a penny nowadays and employers want relevant experience and SOMETIMES relevant qualifications not random and irrelevant courses. People wouldn’t look at my application form because english is pointless and has a deserved reputation for being a snotty lazy brats degree. I spent three awful years listening to brain dead conversations and praying for death and now I’m going to spend the rest of my life regretting it. I found university a disgusting place. I hated the nasty bullying attitudes, the brainless conversations, the non-stop boozing and the obsession with fashion and designer clubs. In my experience when people say they loved university they then start telling you stories about how great it was living out of home for the first time and having nothing to do. If you’re more grown up than that and you’re not bone idle then the uni life hasn’t got much to offer. If Uni is hurting you and you don’t definitely NEED the course then seriously think about leaving. Leaving could safeguard your mental health, protect your finances and actually help you get work.

  464. Real your an idiot. There’s obviously something wrong with the system of education. University all revolves around making profit and it sucks your creativity away. I could easily learn everything on my own instead of spending my time listening to some proff. who is not enthusiastic about what he’s teaching and doesn’t wanna be there. But ya I’m going to stick with it because: 1. Dropping out would be a big no for my parents (and I mean BIG) and 2. It’s the only safe bet I’ve got *sigh* Everything’s fucked up now-a-days

  465. I think you need a forum.

  466. Fuck you “DD” & “same here” & everyone else who thinks I’m not telling the truth or can’t handle what I’m saying. Quit bitchin and man up you pussies. “Dropping out would be a big no for my parents” – there’s your first fucking problem you dipshit. Don’t go to school for your parents; do it for yourself. Otherwise what’s the point? “It’s the only safe bet I’ve got” – Jesus kid wtf is wrong with you? This also doesn’t qualify for a good enough reason to go to school. Dropping out is never the answer for most people-try and take a semester or a year off if you have to but DO NOT QUIT. “BA’s are dime a fucking dozen” (Clayton). While I agree with this statement, Clayton is obviously to big of an idiot to realize that since the number of BA degrees holders are only increasing with time, it is only logical to want to get one as well, since this would level the playing field between yourself and other people, education wise. Think about it. If everyone you knew had a BA, what does that say about the people who don’t possess one? Sure it might only make you part of “the crowd”, but at least there are opportunities after undergraduate study in order for you to rise above the crowd later on. Wake up and smell the coffee, nobody said university or Life, for that matter would be easy

  467. oi allow da beef cuz!

  468. “Real” your making it sould like the people in this forum doesn’t do anything but whine about University. i’m sure some people if not, most people are doing their work but at the same time hating it. Universities are all about making profits and draining away the creativity inside you as “same here” mentioned. You also told us to shut up and do our work. If we all did that then this forum wouldn’t exist and people wouldn’t have the opportunity they have now in this forum to express themselves. I’m here at university not because of anyone but myself and i too find the system and the atmosphere fucked up. so stop trying to make it look like you know better then us and with your attitude you shouldn’t even be in this forum.

  469. Oh Real, coming from someone who is too timid to use their real name in an argument, I

  470. Real, You are acting like a conceited jerk. It takes alot of courage for people to openly admit that university is bullshit for most people. I was praised by all my friends across the world when i dropped out. They say they dont have the guts to do what i did.

  471. It is good to know that other people are thinking the same things. I am in the second year of an accounting and finance degree, and took it in the first place to get a well paid job at the end of it. Big mistake. I think I ended up going to uni because all of my friends did, and I regret the fact now that I wasn’t confident enough to say no to it. I am a musician, and since starting the course I haven’t felt in the least bit creative. All the people on my course are like drones who live to crunch numbers and they are all incredibly competitive. Not that I am adverse to a little competition but there is no warmth there or friendliness. I have made some very good friends at university but in my first year I felt very lonely and isolated. It has gotten a little better in the second year but the course has become worse and I feel really out of my depth. It really did take time to adjust to it and I am still incredibly unhappy now. Both with my course and everything else. University is not all it is cracked up to be, that is unless you are into binge drinking and club music, which I am not. If you are loud and brash and confident, you will thrive at uni, but if not then you might not enjoy it as much. I know I am a sensitive guy and I am really into sports, whereas everyone at uni seems to want to go out on “the lash” all the time. The year before I came to the uni a guy who I went to primary school with died from binge drinking when he choked on his own vomit in freshers week. Life is worth more than a piece of paper with your name on it. If you are not living life doing something which makes you happy, there is no point in living it at all. Granted a degree is useful, but I am beginning to think that I should get out as soon as I can because I feel like a caged animal. I wish I knew what I really wanted to do with my life but I honestly don’t. I feel totally empty at the moment, but something is telling me I should try and stick it out to the end, even though they will be the worst 18 months of my life. They honestly feel like a prison sentence. Part of me is worried I will be the loser who dropped out and I will be wasting a lot of money if I do. I really don’t know what to do…

  472. Hi, this is Real. I want to apologise for the comments I made before. They were unreasonable and may have caused upset and anger to some people, but I have a reason for leaving those sorts of comments, so please let me explain. I

  473. Hey spurty bum-bum, tragic story! Not! I knew you were a loser, spending all your time leaving dumb comments in websites.

  474. Hahahaha this shit is too funny! Its also amusing to see that no one can actually refute what I’m saying. Instead you guys choose to resort to childish tactics (hijacking my handle), and reiterate the same bullshit over and over again. Whatever, I’m graduating soon and to those willing to listen to me remember this: if you quit now, you’ll never forgive yourself and this could turn into a habit-quitting every time something challenges you. “Obstacles are those scary things you see when you take your eyes off the goal.” – Henry Ford.

  475. Real, I understand what you are saying and you make some very good points. Sometimes I think I just need to snap out of it, but sometimes it isn’t that easy to do. Some people need somewhere to vent and feel like there are not alone in feeling this way so to belittle people because they haven’t had the same experiences as you is deplorable. You don’t know peoples’ individual situations! Please just give everyone some space and stop being antagonistic. Good luck with your course by the way.

  476. This seems to be exactly the sort of website I’m looking for (not sure about the last few comments tho -wtf). Anyway i started uni back in september and i thought i hated it cos i found it really hard to adjust to and i was really unsure about the course and the teaching. Anyway, i got so upset i dropped out, but i’ve deferred my place til next year so i have the option of going back this septeber. Now i have the chnace to actually make some money (not waste it on a course i’m not sure about), and i have the time to decide whether or not i want/ need to go back. Lots of people here seem to want to leave but are too scared, but i did it and its really not the worst thing in the world, so if you’re really unhappy, why not defer for a year, then you might be more prepared in a year’s time. I felt really sad and ashamed for a couple of weeks after i left, but now i realise it was the most sensible decision for me. I agree with what a lot of people say about needing a degree whether you like uni or not, but if you’re really unhappy, its not worth it and there are other alternatives. Good luck, everyone

  477. Real, you’re very strange. Why do you keep coming back and posting comments on a website you clearly don’t like. People come here for support and to share their experiences with people in the same boat. First off, you leave rude comments, then come up with insane excuses for leaving them, then you make it sound like you like university, so why are you on this website????

  478. Wow, I’m so relieved to have found people who are going through the same thing as me. I couldn’t wait to start university: to be independant, make loads of new friends and better my career prospects. After only a few weeks however, my optimism turned to sheer misery. I can honestly say that I haven’t learned anything that I didn’t already know at A-level. On top of this, I was put in the shittiest halls with a shitty bunch of people. They’ve formed their own cliques and seem hellbent on excluding me and this other girl from everything just because we’re not as extrovert as them. It’s not as if I haven’t made any effort to include myself. They’re loud,immature and inconsiderate. They come in at all hours of the morning screaming and laughing their heads off at the top of their voices. They also bang on the security door because they won’t bother their lazy asses to open it with their keys.I’ve been tempted so many times to drop out but my parents will go insane if I do. My friends at other universities are having the time of their lives and I barely see them anymore, my relationship with my boyfriend has suffered, and my work ethic has gone out the window as I can’t be bothered to turn up to half my lectures anymore. All this shit at the cost of 10 grand. Fuck university.

  479. I want to do a job that I have always wanted to do, and that I’m pretty sure that I’ll love, so I think it would be stupid to drop out. I hated my A-Levels as I struggled so much, so in a way it’s a relief to be learning a degree that is mildly interesting in places. I hate the Uni I am in, which I had to go to through clearing as I fell considerably short of my predicted grades. I absoloutely hate the people here. Everyone already has their own group of friends and I don’t have any, and the majority of people are shallow, backstabbing assholes anyway. I have people I despise, but nobody that I’m close to. I’m not used to this, I have two best friends who I don’t get to see anymore and I feel like everyone is moving on without me. I’m sick of trying to make friends and making myself vulnerable by thinking we’re actually really getting along and then getting stabbed in the back ( this has happened repeatedly). I have never met anyone like these people in my life and suddenly they’re everywhere. I don’t understand; one thing I can actually say about myself is that I am very accepting, but that’s a completely useless trait if nobody likes you at all. I might just join my boyfriends uni and stick with him; I wouldn’t have to spend so much money on trains.

  480. ‘I’m sick of trying to make friends and making myself vulnerable by thinking we’re actually really getting along and then getting stabbed in the back ‘. Edwina, I know how you feel. I’m so depressed and lonely nowadays and feel like breaking down and telling everyone how much I dislike them. I miss the days of being in sixth form where people actually acknowledged my existence. I’m desperate to transfer next year but what if I end up in the exact same shitty situation, or even worse??No one deserves to have to deal with this sort of shit.

  481. I HATE UNIVERSITY! ITS TOO HARD! AND PEOPLE ARE MEAN!

  482. University is a persistent mess I just can

  483. Name: Irrelevant; Age: 18; Major: Business. The truth is, I am Undecided. Business seemed to be a good choice given that I am a very social person — a business degree can help anywhere! That was my line of thought until I met the weird people, the horrible teachers, and the dull useless work. What’s more, I tend to obsess over things and I also have a tendency to run away from my problems = Not a good combination. Unfortunately, at a time when my happiness was in decline (UNI), I discovered WoW. Then came the nights of staying awake, sleeping through the day (and missing class).. I did not even register fopr courses for semester 2! I don’t know what to do, if I should go back or not… -sigh- I wish I had taken time off. And I wish my mum and dad did not have to talk 24/7 about the university. Will they be crushed when I tell them how I skipped my finals, and have selected no courses! :( I used to be an Honour Roll, Advanced Placement Student in high school btw. If I could see myself now, then… LOL :(

  484. Hugely Disappointed

    This whole university experience is making me value the life I had before it. There are so any fake, immature dicks who need to get their big heads out of their asses. I spend my days waiting for nightfall to come so that I can tick another shitty day off the calender. All the initial enthusiasm I started university with has been sucked out of me. One of the questions on my exam last week asked me to label a verb from a piece of text. I’m paying 3 grand a year to label a fucking verb!! For the first time in my life I give credit to all my a-level teachers who actually gave me something challenging to learn. All I’ve ever really wanted as a career is to become a primary teacher and I have to endure the hell of university for another 3.5 pointless years to achieve it.

  485. High school wasn’t a very pleasant experience for me and I honestly didn’t expect university to be much better. Actually, it’s been far worse than I could have ever imagined. 3.5 years toiling away with my head down in a program I hate and which I know won’t get me a job (I was kicked out of my original program) has left me incredibly bitter and jaded. It doesn’t matter how much I study. They put shit on the tests I’ve never seen before, so I usually end up barely passing. As a result, I’ve been on the brink of suicide many times, telling myself that if I fail this or that course, I’m going to down a bottle of pills. If all that wasn’t depressing enough, I couldn’t get pussy to save my life, despite living in a co-ed dorm. Where’s all this alleged sex I was promised by mainstream movies like American Pie and The Rules of Attraction? I think I shall visit a hooker soon to rid me of some angst and hopefully make life a little more bearable. I only have 7 months of this shit left, but I’m finding it increasingly more difficult to muster up much motivation. I hate being tired and overworked all the time; I want to enjoy my youth. Fuck.

  486. University is a lie sold to kids by adults who want to make themselves feel better about the years of wasted life spent reading largely meaningless texts, writing trivial little essays and listening to boring fucking lecturers giving lectures straight from the bloody textbooks. It’s a farce, a scam, a bloody disgrace and I’m paying for it. What makes it worse is that with the coming depression there won’t be any jobs for people with academic subjects, just the losers with vocational qualifications. Is this my reward for working hard? My god it’s depressing.

  487. Education Needs Looking Over

    Kilo-400 I totally agree with you up UNTIL the part where you say people with vocational qualifications are losers. Sure you might have thought that before you went to Uni, but now that you are admitting what a waste of time and money it is for you, who’s more of a loser, them or you?

  488. I see your point, I guess I’m the loser.

  489. There’s no way out of uni is there? If I stay, I’m miserable. If I go, I’m a failure. I’m sorry but I’m done…goodbye world…I hope my parents understand…

  490. craig, if you’re that miserable at uni, you should leave. It won’t make you a failure – you could always go again in a few years – loads of people do and it will give you a chance to see what other options you have – you might find a job that you really like but you’ll never know if you don’t try. Everyone tells you that uni is worth it but i dropped out because i was seriously depressed, and a degree that i probably wont use wasnt worth that for me. it probably isnt worth it for you either. If you do drop out, you’ll probably feel really bad for a short while, but you’ll get over it and it might be the best decision for you.

  491. I went back to my flat that very night I thought about what he said to me, whilst popping some anti-depressants. The following morning I phoned up the University to say I was taking a week off because of illness.

  492. Craig wtf r u saying?!!!?? Don’t do what I think your thinking of doing…

  493. Real, just shut the fuck up and sit down. I along with many others on this board “refuted” your sorry ass forwards, backwards, upside down and sideways. Keep on gritting your teeth and telling yourself all the delusion you want to hear, you’ll be a flourishing success one day with mind-blowing social skills seeing as university is nothing but sheer bliss and perfection. Ah, to live in a fantasy world.

  494. Hi, I’m doing a Theology Course at Manchester Uni, studying for my exams now, and am just tired of it all. This is my first year, and first semester, i typed in ‘I hate university’ into Google and this forum came up. I have read as many posts as i could and am so comforted to fins other students/graduates who are not having as much fun as expected. Society brainwashes you into believeing that Uni is a compulsary (spelling?) step in life and it is sooo much fun. I have made friends, gone out clubbing…etc. On the other hand, i have gone to every lecture made notes and worked…hard. This isn’t fun, surely if this was what i was meant to be doing i would enjoy, or at least be interested, in my subject. In A-levels i loved Religious Studies, now i’m at Uni I couldn’t hate a subject more. The lecturers seem ignorant. And for those who are being critical of us who hate Uni life, screw you, i see myself as the perfet contradiction to you, i work damn hard and i play hard, i’m still not having a great time, let alone a good time. If anyone else feels the same way i do, and goes to Manchester Uni, feel free to email me.

  495. I’ve been here about one semester now, and I hate it. I’m bored, unispired and have a curious feeling that I’ve been duped a little…I went to a private school in London for six years and worked riduclously hard to come to Scotland and live in a crappy little flat with four noisy, tiresome girls and barely learn anything I didn’t already learn at A Level. This feels like a total waste of time and money just to prove I ‘deserve’ a decent job, I honestly wuold prefer just working in a proper job, evemn if only as a secretary, than this. Another great irony is the fact that we’re suppossed to be ‘growing up’ but University life bears no true resemblance to reality or the ‘real world’, it just feels like some sort of giant histrionic playpen. The fact that most of my friends from home are all having a great time really makes me question what I’ll have left in common with them when we all graduate…especially since I have basically only one real friend here…Anyway, feels comforting to know I’m not entirely alone….

  496. Well this website is great reading for anyone to get psyched up to walk into the program office and drop out. I think thats what i’ll do when next week starts. I don’t think i even really knew what university was when i was a younger teenager. When i finished year 11 i was determined not to go even to sixth form but my lack of motivation that summer at finding a job other than working for my dad meant it was the easiest option. 3 years later i had finished sixth form and my first year of work with a bit of travel (or a gap year). Then i made the insane decision to go to university to be with my girlfriend. I wasn’t into the course from the start and my flatmates didn’t get on with each other let alone me. Now that i’m halfway thru the 2nd year and i’ve been dumped i feel like i’m back to square 1 again. My housemates are ok but we were all just dumped together at the start of september. We aren’t friends in the real world. When i see someone from the house in town, my mind almost turns inside out because my eyes are so unnaccustomed to seeing them outside the kitchen or hall or whatever. I think if anyone is reading this site and hasn’t yet gone to university and has doubts don’t let ANYONE pressure you. If its independance you seek, there are plenty of places you can find that other than education. Personally i’ve reached an all new stage of not even attempting the coursework because it would provide an ultimatum to leave the course. If only i hadn’t chosen to go insane at the start of a recession…

  497. This is a great site for psyching yourself up to go to the program office to drop out. I think i might do that when next week starts. I read a lot of posts other people have done and realise this is the most intelligent forum/wall thing i’ve ever come across on the internet apart from the few posts by people who like university and come here for the novelty of people complaining about it. To them we’re a bunch of unmotivated social outcasts who can’t lighten up and have fun. Its pointless to reason with them. They don’t understand what its like to hate doing something because you’ve been told to do it and how the disparity of expectation and reality can cause people to be pissed off. These are the kind of people who pass their driving test first time then laugh at people who fail cause their mind can’t empathise or realise that failure is possible. Don’t get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with enjoying university. Its great if you do but don’t take the piss out of people who are having a hard time. And especially don’t post comments about other people ranting at your views such as “HAHAHAHAHA!!!! omg this is some funny shit etc..” Anyway, i’m in 2nd year at manchester met and not happy.Some of you who are unhappy seem to have thought wisely about higher education before going and then been dissappointed. But when i was a younger teenager i don’t even think i knew what university was. I just thought it was some place where people like Steven Hawking and Rembrandt probably went. Ya know, the very gifted. Come to think of it, i didn’t even know about 6th form till i was about 2or 3 years away from it and i only went there because i got good gcse’s and lacked the motivation to find a proper job. Yeah, i know, i can be unmotivated. I only came here coz i wasn’t doing anything that september after my year working/travelling so decided on a whim to go thru clearing to find a course and if i got accepted, hey, i could be with my girlfriend who was also just about to start university. The most i contemplated of getting from university was a few months with my girlfriend. I even probably went with the idea in my head that it would be shit and i would drop out. A year and a few months later i am still here and i no longer have the girlfriend and if i drop out i am stuck paying the tuition till the end of the year. I know i bought it on myself. i wasn’t conditioned to think this way at home and at school in the later years it was all teachers talked about but i ignored it and thought to myself “no fuckin way am i gonna do that to myself and be in debt”. The moral is NEVER DO ANYTHING IMPULSIVE. Anyway i’ve “tried” to drop out a few times but everytime i get to the building my brain suddenly tricks me into thinking its not that bad or “i can overcome my motivational problems”. Everytime i told someone at the university about dropping out they would say that they didn’t deal with that kind of thing and i should go to someother office and when i would get there it would be the same thing until i just thought “fuck it, i’ll just carry on”. A lot of people complain about mmu especially at manchester university. In a way it does feel like i’m one them foreign players who turns up to play for manchester city football team only to find out that it wasn’t the team with all the international glory. It was the other manchester team. But i just think i can’t get my mind to focus on something that i’m not completely into anymore and its got worse and worse. I should have just quit education at 16 when i had lots of A grades instead of going on relunctantly to achieve mediocrity at further and higher education. Sorry if that was a bit long but if you don’t like long posts you can always scroll past it to a shorter one. Good luck everyone

  498. I hate university, its taken so much from me i feel like im barley able to function. My subject (Joint BA:cultural media studies and politics) has left me in a paranoid state about the world, with a load of pretentious words of no real use. In my 3rd year now and cant wait for this shit to be over, even though at best ill probs only manage to get a 2.2. I just cant stand reading anymore of this academic bullshit, the most inspiring thing ive read at university is probably this very website. The lecturers/professurs or whatever the fuck they are almost entirley made up of upthemselves twats who do nothing but criticise the world without providing any solution under the pretense that they want to provide some kind of ‘chalenging disscourse of the elite’ or some shit, yet they are elitist judgmental wankers themselves. Im so glad there are other people like me, who see the sad ass dicks that the majority of students are. Being shoved into halls with bunch of all to desperate to be cool wankers, with nothing but selfish, judgmental and manipulative charectersitics has left me once a quite popular person feeling alone, depressed and incapable of proper social interaction.. even with the few people ive met that ive liked. I now often find myself sitting alone in my room drinking, thankfully i still keep in good contact with most of my friends at home and have managed to make a couple of decent friends here but it still all a pile of wank. All the best to everyone here =)

  499. I hate University like the rest of you. I’m in my last semester of my fourth year taking Mechatronics Engineering, no kidding I can see the end of this torturous excuse for learning but I can’t find the montivation to get there. I hate my classes, I find that the notes I take during class don’t help me one bit, and I end up studying straight from the textbook for exams anyway. But when I don’t drag my ass to school the other guys in my class think I’m some fucking lazy bastard coasting his way through. The shit I’m learning is boring as hell and I’m not interested in at all. I can’t fucking drop out because it has cost me to much fucking time and MONEY, and my dad would never let it go. I have absolutly no life what so ever out side of school, I keep hearing about how it’ll be better once you graduate and get that job of your dreams, Bullshit that job just got taken by the smartass stuck-up kid in the front row. I can keep ranting but I have to study for the three tests I have this Thursday and Friday. Thanks for the forum.

  500. Thats awesome advice!

  501. dudes & dudettes, after much inner conflict and contemplation I’ve decided to drop out. I’m not gonna lie to you, alotta ppl are gonna look down and ridicule/scorn you for it but ALWAYS REMEMBER its YOUR life…you gotta do what you gotta do. If on the day you die you ask yourself: did I live my life according to what I wanted to do, dictated by what MY goals were, or did I spend my life doing what others expected/wanted me to do? I hope everyone of us can choose the former…good luck to the rest of you guys and I hope you keep this thread going so that others like us might find it and read our stories/experiences and maybe find some wisdom and comfort within our words…

  502. I dropped out after failing my first year at TCD; I didn’t get on with anyone on my course and was embarrassed to talk about my academic problems with the few friends I had so I mostly stayed in bed drinking bottles of vodka with paracetamol. Fast-forward 2 years and I’ve got a

  503. I dropped out after failing my first year at TCD; I didn’t get on with anyone on my course and was embarrassed to talk about my academic problems with the few friends I had so I mostly stayed in bed drinking bottles of vodka with paracetamol. Fast-forward 2 years and I’ve got a

  504. I HATE LOUGHBOROUGH UNIVERSITY WITH PASSION. I hate the people. how: ignorant, stupid, obnoxious, loud, fake, constantly drunk, talks about getting drunk or about their drunk experiences, and they have absolutely no life. People here have made me want to move away from the UK. I hate it.

  505. man i hate uni with a burning passion which could only be quenched with the blood a thousand newborns. seriously tho, it’s not like it is in the movies. fuckin douche bags partying, getting laid, that type of shit. it’s more like never ending studying, pretending to like people in the hopes that you’ll forge some type of a relationship with something other than your hand ;) , and putting up with useless fcking lectures/lecturers when your time could be better spent making shelters for the homeless…I hope one day, someday, any day in the future, uni/colleges everywhere will be abolished and recognized as backwards and morally wrong. thats right MORALLY WRONG. forcing everyone (yes, i said forcing, as society today only gives the illusion of “choice” – that is, other things besides uni – while steadily upholding the notion that “if you dont go to uni/college, you’re a loser” and, as such, not leveling the playing field for those who might be qualified for a job, against those who aren’t, but possess a degree)to attend college or uni is like trying to force everyone to fit through a children’s hoolahoop; sure a lot of people are going to be able to fit but not everyone is going to be able to for various reasons…and for those who cant but try anyway, well, its going to be pretty damn hard…Anywho, I hope anyone reading this can take away something from my words- good or bad- and ultimately help someone with landing on a decision they’ll be able to be happy with. remember, once you’re out you can never go back…jk, thats what they want you to believe…

  506. I hate this place, I have no friends. I think I might work for a year and see what that’s like instead, I want to try things on my own because I have no more will to do this shit. I hate jumping through all these hoops and having some prick TA deduct marks for stupid shit like accidentally forgetting to underline crap. I sit in my room every night doing nothing trying to find a way out of this rat race. I’ve been in school for a total of 16 (since 4) years and guess what…I still fucking hate homework.

  507. A lot of you seem very angry and depressed within weeks of going to University. But not sure it is the fault of the University. Living away from home can be an adventure or it can be a nightmare if you are not really ready to leave the safety of Mum and Dad. It is really important to go and look at the university place you are applying for, especially if it is through ‘clearing’, and talk to the teachers before deciding. It is hard if you are keen to discuss things and socialise in the way you did in a small sixth form class and find others are not, but unlike school you are not restricted to those in your class or halls. Lots of you say you are not into the early drinking stuff, which is really intended to losen inhibitions and celebrate leaving home, but the point is that very few of the friends you will have at the end of the course will be the ones you met at the begining. You are more likely to meet someone at an interesting club – even a club you start yourself, even if it seems a geeky thing to do – and they may well be older students, or lonely and interesting foreign students, even mature students. Noisy halls are not for everyone even in their first year, but you do have to plan not to live at home eventually so think what might suit you – small university, or big one, flatting or a family ‘lodging’, an academic ‘stretch’ or something a bit easier – try to get your parents to let go of their ambitions for you and do what feels will be good for your skills and interests. Nothing wrong with dropping out in the first year and doing something different next year, but don’t do it because you miss your mum – she will be much happier if you can show you are mature enough to fend for yourself. Use the counselling, yes, please, most universities are good at this. If you have researched your course and met the teachers, don’t end up disrespecting their learning because they are telling you to go and do the reading and write your own essays – university is really for ‘independent’ learning, and you are paying for huge library and online access,theatres and sports facilities, subsidised food, and the opportunity to go to lots of events and lectures outside your own subject and what ever else is on in your university town – with student discounts. Halls is a careful step on the ladder of moving from home to coping entirely with the budgeting involved in your own flat. You have the chance to do drama, to get involved with politics or music, to do environmental stuff,talk about Manga or poetry, go on trips, to take work experience – ask at your careers office. London students often do good work in the inner city schools that desperately need the help – even if you only do a few hours it helps with self-esteem and depression issues to work with really disadvantaged kids who may never get to where you are. Going to University doesn’t take away those kind of personal problems if they are already there, but it is a chance to alter who you are and do things you might never have tried at home. If you think all the other students are ‘stuck up’ and you don’t feel you can ask the right questions in class, then speak to your teachers afterwards – they love keen students, and get just as fed up with the ‘princess and gormless types’ as you do. Every university teacher has had to do a PHD, a very lonely and stressful experience, few of them care about fashionable clothes, and they have busy lives, but they always look for students who have a different view, who can say, ‘look can I write my essay about this bit because it interests me’, or is there something else I should read. If you really think a teacher is incompetent- complain, but check with the rest of the class first! It is hard when you feel too shy to speak to a student at the photocopier even if they looked like they were doing something interesting, but it is worth getting out of your room and into the student’s union or the library or the computer lab in the evenings, and after a few words just say ‘how about a coffee’ – most people will say yes – or join in a conversation already going on in the caff. I know to vent on this forum is probably cartharsis, but lots of people who do drop out realise later on that it was just they were not so prepared to stick it out at the time, and that really they would have been better to have recognised that it is part of becoming an independent character, even if it feels hopeless and taking control of the things that are good for you at university. Things like independence of thought, pushing at capabilities, learning about balanced lifestyles, budgeting, talking to strangers, learning to cope with your own moods and ups and downs, going to the doctor when you need to, and understanding your own and others learning patterns and time management. All the things that employers are really looking for when they say ‘I want a graduate’, and not someone that has to be told what to do all the time, watched to see they are working and motivated with financial commissions or company cars. The technical stuff you learn will go out of date, it is the ability to keep up to date for yourself that is what a university education is really about. If you hate this kind of advice, than you need to realise that your depression about university has made your thinking too extreme and unbalanced about it all as an experience of value. It may still not be for you, but you still need to see what is really possible, dig beneath your first impressions and give it a good try first.

  508. JUST QUIT!!! If you don’t like uni and you’re not in your final year just quit and do something that makes you happy! I wish everyday I could quit but my parents paid for so much of my tution I can’t quit without them losing thousands of pounds :( I’ve kinda got around this by taking a year out between each year to “work” and went travelling instead lol! But this year, my final one, is going soooo slowly. Universities are just ways for the government to make money. They leave you in debt and with the realisation that a degree means squat nowadays because so many people have one. So then you’re told “a degree is not enough, you need an MA”, which is of course code for “please give us more money”! Unless you know you’re career route and know for sure that it requires a specified degree, don’t go to uni. It’s not worth it. I’ve learnt the hard way and wasted three of my best years in education. Plus I’ve learnt the most important things, had the most life changing experiences, and meet the most interesting people travelling not alone pouring over books in the library for months on end. My advice; quit while you can!!!

  509. “Clayton is obviously to big of an idiot to realize that since the number of BA degrees holders are only increasing with time, it is only logical to want to get one as well, since this would level the playing field between yourself and other people, education wise.” Oh but I didn’t say it wouldn’t level the playing field did I? It will, between you and the other hundred people vying for the same menial office job. Dunno about you, but I’d rather not be a cubicle dwelling, word processing serf for the rest of my life. :)

  510. I am in my first year at uni and i hate it. Dont no what to do people will think less of me, my tutor says i am a brilliant student but i hate uni life and i cannot seem to get anywhere with student life i am so scared and cry every night woundering what i am going to do. please somewhere help me

  511. Hey, I’m in my first year and so far my grades have been great. I enjoy most of my classes and find them interesting. My problem is that I have been here for over half a year and have never been so lonely. I have no friends and find it hard to meet people.

  512. And by the way its not just university thats a scam its the whole god damned educational system which requires us to waste away all of your youth sitting in a classroom in a zombie state doing useless shit over and over. We should be rioting on the streets..

  513. just call me Maria..

    i love you all! reading this and many other sites, I realise I’m not alone. It makes you look at things in a different perspective. I’ve been through alot of bullshit last term (this being my first year) and as most went in thinking everyone was nice and lovely, as even in difficult situations I try to find a positive, but have been mostly surrounded with arrogant, pretentious arses who will turn their back on you whenever it suits them. This has only been the one major problem I’ve faced here, both in my previous accomadation (i’m not even gonna get into what happened there) and class. Knowing nearly every face is sometimes not a good thing because as with gossip, rumours quickly spread and people tend to listen to them and not get the facts. But I think to myself now, if they are so quick to judge me and even when speaking to me hold the same judgement then they are not worth my time. right? It still sometimes gets to me how arrogant people can be, I don’t think I’ve had one decent conversation with these people, ok maybe one, there is one sane person here lol. The fact I suffer with panic disorder doesn’t actually help either, as I can’t really turn to any’one’ or ‘friend’ for help. I don’t actually have anythng in common with anyone, it’s like a circus everyone’s putting on an act and it’s so sad. but oh well, what can you do? Hold in there people, there’s no point of throwing away a degree or something you enjoy for the sake of people. Because in the end, that’s all they are people, which you may never see again right? =) Peacex

  514. I cant believe this. There’s loads of people who think the same as me. I think Uni is such a load of crap. So over-rated. I think it had potential to be fun but it went so wrongly for me. I miss my school days. I had lots of friends, knew lots of people, genuinely had fun, sociable, etc etc you know the drill. Here at uni I have never met so many fake, stuck-up, competitive people. I just can’t stand it. I am in my third year of a top ten uni in England, but I don’t see how the money I pay is worth it. All of this for six hours of lectures a week ??? The people are terrible. I think in the three years I’ve been here I have met lots of people and would only consider 2 people to be close friends. The others are so shallow and fake. Before I used to play the game and keep in touch with these acquaintances but now I just don’t bother. The way I see it I am graduating in less than four months so why put in the energy? I can’t get over how fake people are at my uni. My uni is full of rahs who all know each other from school, and get introduced to each other like a little incest circle. I thought I was having fun at uni until I went home for christmas in the first year and realised what fun REALLY meant. I enjoyed being back with my friends from home so much and felt so empty coming back to uni. For the most part I think uni has made me really cynical. People are so rude and unfriendly. I pretty much had a mental breakdown twice over the past two years and was so ready to drop out. I just need to get this off my chest. I feel so frustrated at uni because I feel like a completely different person while I am here. At one point I used to wonder if maybe there was somethign wrong with me, maybe I had no social skills, maybe I was the problem?? Then last summer I did a work placement and the people I met were literally amazing. I instantly bonded with them, we all instantly clicked and I genuinely liked these people. I had such a good time and still think about those people. Even though we only knew each other for 10 weeks I felt I had known them for years and they reminded me so much of my friends from school. To this day I still think about them. I think that experience confirmed to me that it wasn’t a problem with ‘me’. I have just been unlucky with the people I have met at uni. Think about it, some woman sitting in the accommodation office randomly places me with some people in halls, who is to say that we will have anything in common? It is just pure luck. Uni is so overated but now I know there is definitely life after uni and you know what it is so much better than this. I can’t stand the sameness of uni, how you are one of 20000 students, all identical and bland. Really kills me. Just had to rant, today I have been feeling a bit pissed off so this has helped. Especially for the people that had active social lives before they came to uni, uni isnt everything, theres more to life after graduation……Can’t wait till May 2009, after that I have ZERO intentions is keeping in touch with anyone from uni (apart from the 2 people I consider close friends).

  515. Im in my second year of uni and although it is a lot better than my first year, i still think it is an absolute waste of time and money. I came to uni with so many expectations built up by the people around me,and then have all been smashed. The people I have met so far are all on a totally different wavelength to me and god knows how they manage to go out every night pissing away their money and still have money left for food and rent… My course is a joke, im only in 8 hours a week for

  516. Wow. I wish I’d stumbled upon this website before I went to uni. Atleast I wouldn’t have had my hopes up sky-high….only to have them pummel me out as they fell into proper perspective. What makes it ten times worse is that everyone’s all cheers and happy grins all around,as if life is so effing great. So naturally, I would very much like to beat the living shit out of them and yell ‘HAHA’ in their faces. Let’s see them grin after THAT. Idiots. Sigh. I used to be a normal human being who LIKED seeing others happy, but I feel so incredibly lonely. I’m a first year med student, so the work-load alone is unbelievable, the proffesors aren’t worth shit and their lectures are as good as useless so I never bother showing up anymore, and you can’t do with the college books because they are, regrettably, written by said professors. Not that it matters anymore, I’m officially in the ‘care-free’ zone right now and I hate that. I’ve always been an excellent student. Apathy was never in my nature and that just goes to show how incredibly screwed up things are going for me. And I’m studying abroad, which is really my country but I was living elsewhere my whole life so I don’t even get to see much of my family. Not to mention that my people are closed-minded, conservative idiots so i can’t even wear any of the pretty, albeit slightly scandalous, outfits I bought specifically for uni! I know, I know, that that’s not really a catastrophe but dammit, I’m young! I should live out my youth! It’s all work and no play at my stupid uni. No clubs, no sports and no facilities because it’s state-funded but everyone says I should freaking ecstatic because it’s supposedly the best. No one cares that I feel alienated and it completely baffles them that I can’t for the life of me relate to my ‘kind’. And all I’ve got is six more years of this hell to look forward to.

  517. You know, I very much relate to the general frustration and underlying awareness of how fucked up our modern society really is these days. Ever since we were little toddlers, we have been imposed with the idea that we all gotta “be something” – a glider pilot, dentist, programmer, economist – whatever. And to be most of these respected things, you absolutely need a university eduction. At a young age, the entire concept of post-secondary eduction is so glorified, so picture perfect and so “right” that you abandon all forms of rational scrutiny concerning the matter. You let yourself be blindly led upon this linear path where the rest of your life resides. People live their lives with the illusion that they themselves have freedom and choice, yet this is nothing but a lie. People slave their asses studying vast quantities of knowledge only to have these learned skills be exploited by corporations/government later on in their lives. Lets use engineer John as an example. After highschool John went into Engineering because he was good at math and enjoyed problem solving. So he went to his scheduled lectures, studying his ass off for 4 years straight so he could learn the skills needed for one to be deemed an engineer. This process costs John thousands and thousands of dollars, and puts him into debt. John finally graduates and is given a piece of paper stating he has the skills of an Engineer. Eager to make use of this hard work, John then gets hired by a company. This company determines how much money he makes, when he wakes up, how he is supposed to look at work, and what project he is supposed to work on. This company even tells John exactly how many days he can take for vacation, how many days he can be sick, and how many hours he is required to work a week. It doesn’t matter if John would rather start work at noon rather than 9am. It doesn’t matter that John really only needs to work 20 hours a week to make ends meet. It doesn’t matter that John invested 4 years of his life and thousands of his own hard-earned dollars to learn these skills in the first place. John is robbed of his entitlement to provide his skills however he wants and whenever he wants. All John knows is that he is a slave to a corporation of the capitalist world, where everyone is expected to work 9-5, 5 days a week, every week. Where you are always working for the interests of a person higher up. A world where you can’t play ball in the sun with your kid at 2:00 pm on a Thursday because if you do, you’ll be fired and your family’s future jeopardized. It is this world that we are living in today, ladies and gentlemen. And everybody is submitting to it, like loyal slaves serving a greater entity. People need to wake up and rock the fucking boat. The commodification of human beings and their skills by corporations and government alike has to stop. We should have the choice to provide our skills exactly as many hours as we like, whenever we like, to make ends meet. We treat days of the week like they were holy carvings made in fucking stone. It’s disgusting the way we all, me included, submit to this travesty. We all turn a blind eye to it. And the cycle continues with each passing generation. I hope this is not the destiny of mankind, we are better than that.

  518. I’m three classes from graduation and I’m seriosuly considering dropping out as I have zero motivation to finish. Univerity has made me so depressed to the point of wanting to die although I would never do it I’ve thought about it. I wasted 6 years of my life trying to get a degree and i’m at my wits end. Somebody please tell me that I am making the right decision to leave. In the end I just want to be the happy person I use to be.

  519. The only reason im at uni, is to stay in the town where my uni is at, so i can see my girlfriend i am a lesbian and my parents wont understand so i wouldnt see her if i went home and got a job. i want a degree but god uni is shit! im on an art course with aload of stuck up ppl, in a course that ive lost intrest in and prob wont get a job in!

  520. man I hate university so much…sometimes i just so depressed that I either just wanna run away to south america and nvr return, or kill myself…but i’d nvr have the balls to kill myself, just like i dont have the balls to drop out. life sucks donkey dick…

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  522. I’m so frusturated, angry and depressed. Uni sucks, and it’s lonely. Lectures are dry, professors just dead boring, and some of the assignments are absolutely off-the-wall absurd and pointless. The pressure is immense and spirit-crushing. Unfortunatelly there is no “plan B” for me- I have to finish it: I have 6 months to go, and it’s the toughest ever. I need a break NOW!, but I can’t, not till July. I feel trapped.How do others sail through with such ease?

  523. annonymous maria

    i wrote on here early a week ago but i think my comment got erased or something? anyways, all i wanted to say is yes, nearly everyone goes into thinking that uni is going to be some kind of sanctuary where u meet loads of fun people and go crazy everyday. It’s true to some extent, I have met quite a few people, and yes there have been crazy moments BUT I’ve realised that i’m not compatible with anyone at all. I don’t think there’s a single person who is on my wavelength, you have two extremes: the really quiet hibernating types, and the loud-mouth crazies. I am not having a go at any of them, but most of the extroverts around here are just putting up a front seeing who can out rank each other etc. so I suppose that’s why it’s difficult for me to connect with these people. With others, they’re too quiet and hide in their rooms all day so I never have an opportunity to speak to them properly. I could actually describe my semester as being a roller coaster of every possible emotion you could ever have, to the point I thought I was actually going crazy. I was put on alot of strain due to certain circumstanes ex. accomadtion for starters and all the bullshit that happend there, then realising that everyone wants to be popular and follow the crowd as I got left behind somewhere, and also the fact I suffer from panic disorder didn’t exactly help the situation or my health. It just made me more withdrawn and further out of reach from people. the fact that I came here alone, means I suffer alone because I don’t trust anyone here tell them. but maybe that’s why people are getting the wrong end of the stick? It’s a circus where everyone puts on a show, that’s what I’ve got from my experience here, but in the end they’re only people, so why would you want to throw a degree you like for a bunch of wankers you might not see after this? :)

  524. I hate university as well. Im a third year design student at LJMU, and i just had an argument with my “Course leader”. He told me that i dont do enough work and said “So you just go to lunch and get pissed then”. The sticking point is this guy is supposed to have found a replacement for himself! He isnt supposed to bea teaching me! The worst thing is that all the tutors offer conflicting advice! One says, get your measurements right, sort the size and do orthographic projection, another says “make a model” another says, “look at the colours” another says “work on the beauty of the shape” so basically im going mad trying to do all this stuff as well as a market report and a whole bunch of other shit! And then i get accused of just pissing off and getting drunk! 3 years of time when i could have had a fucking job and earnt money. Now ive spent so much i NEED to finish this so i have something to show for it! Crap. I wish i had never ever ever gone to university.

  525. i don’t like it. thats how i got to this website. you can go to university for years and years and still be a loser and an idiot. you could never go to university and be one of the most wonderfully gifted poets or sandwich artists of our generation. i dont know, its pretty fucking lame.

  526. College might be a better option for some of you: “Get in, Get out” university is a longer haul and leaves you questioning yourself “WHO AM I” “IS THIS WHAT I REALLY WANT TO DO”

  527. yup I hate uni too!!! its weird to see so many feel the same. maybe we are just too creative to be another brick in the wall.

  528. I hate york university

    Hey I go to York University.. I transferred there from Humber College, the dyamics are totally diffrent… College really helped me grow, my social life was great I was actually learning and I was motivated. Since I have been in University I feel like I know less.. My husband who finished High School responds faster and more accurtly than I do.. Whereas I’m standing there and thinknig about it you know… I hate it.. No one talks to me and I have tried confronting people and talking to them on numerous occassions but if your not the top 5 smartest student in the class no one wants to talk to you and the proffessors forget like they give a shit about you.. If you missed a paper because your pregnanat and your having a hard time with the nasuea and vomiting and are unable to sit down and write a ridiciolus paper on social theroies well sorrryyyyyyyyyyyyy Some compassion would be nice. There has even been the occasion where i tried to talk to my prof and he shooed me away…. send me an email… what is this shit????? Honestly they stand there and recite from a text…. they dont even mark papers they just give it to a TA If you have trouble learning something rather than actively trying to help you… you are put on academic suspension and than expelled… Is this what we really pay thousands of dollars to attend… Is this really a good quality education, where the struggling student is thrown off the wagon rather than being given help… Its all a farce, its a lie. There can be no education without some creativity otherwise how would we ever be able to innovate and create new things new systems In university if you are creative or sruge what the proffessor is trying to say… Rather than ur ideas being considered… (in papers) they state…. Shows a confused understanding of the course material… Not able to explain concepts clearly… Or… Unrealted to the subject matter… Its all poppy cock!!!!! It was my goal and my dream to call myself a university student… I thought that it was an institution of learning in which we could socalize and help each other… Its dog eat dog.. It fucking sucks… I HATE UNIVERSITY

  529. I agree with Craig! I hate it but I can’t leave! I hated it last year, didn’t go, failed most of my exams & then didn’t get a job in the summer so couldn’t afford to sit re-sits, failed first year & am currently doing the whole bloody year again! If I leave I wont get funding to go to uni again & I dont know what i would do because you cant get into fashion design without a degree! I don’t even know if I’m going to pass this year because I dred going in every day so much I just don’t bother! Does anyone have any good advice?x

  530. Hell yes. ATM i’m in the 2nd yr of a 3 yr course and i’m really begginning to hate it. First of all, i like to learn. I’m an able guy, know a lot about the world etc. But at uni, you have to learn everything according to a set way if that makes sense. You can’t just learn, you have to learn to please the markers. Plus, you can’t just concentrate on one thing, you go to one lecture and they tell you to read 8 books, and then you go to your other lectures in other units and they expect you to read 8 books for each of those as well. ATM i’ve got 4 portfolios to do, 1 essay, and exam to study for and 2 presentations to prepare for. I’m supposed to be putting the same amount of effort into all of these assignments, which is impossible unless i get up at 6am and study until 12am, which is retarded. Another major gripe i have about uni is that you can’t have your own opinion, everything has to be referenced from a book. EVERYTHING. I know that the Birmingham Six misacarriage of justice case was caused by the police brutality and false confessions they signed, but i have to dig up some stupid stale book from the 1970s and find a quote that backs me up. How does that expand your mind and knowledge? Last semester i used a Bob Dylan quote in my essay to back up a point and was told it was not an academic source. WTF does it mater that its not ‘academic’? I get marked down because i missed out a comma in my shitty referencing system (Harvard APA), i mean, what the hell does it matter? Did i come up with a good point? Yes. Did i not reference it properly by accident? Yes. So they mark me down. Plus i have to start thinking about my dissertation. Which would be fine if i didn’t have to think about the 700 other things i’ve got to be getting one with. And then once its time to do the dissertation next year and research like a bastard on everything to do with my chosen subject (which i will enjoy because its something i will be interested in), i will have to be doing 3 other units alongside it and will have to do at least 6 hours reading per week for each one. So then at least one of them is going to be shittier than the others because its freakin’ impossible to do this amount of shitting work for something that will apparently make me ‘cleverer’ than the rest of society.

  531. everthelastminuteworker

    It doesn’t get more complicated than this! Up until college, I could work at the last minute and get great results but ever since I took the dive to university, I just can’t hack it. I’m in the third year some how, but my level of effort is atrocious. I have no one to blame but myself for my academic shortcomings, however, the only thing I can look back and smile at are the experiences I’ve had outside of classes. I have not been inspired by one teacher in my time here, I think they’re all crap. Intelligent, but crap and unengaging. I’m a dirty linguist, but there is nothing I hate more than textbooks and meaningless lessons. I have met some weird, unusual, unique, great, amazing, fantastic…you name it, kind of people in my time here, and had some amazing and horrible experiences. I don’t think I’d be the same person without it. I would probably be horribly bored if I hadn’t come here to be honest. Though I’m glad for the experience I get outside of the classroom, and the stuff I’ve learned from anyone but teachers, I somehow believe that one day I will look back and regret not having made more effort academically. I have one more year to redeem myself, warranting I can progress from this year of bad punctuality, and lethargy. There is no doubt in my mind that I would have not come across all of these people if I had stayed at home, that’s just a fact. So for that reason, I am glad for this all. And just thinking about it now, you know what? Who gives a shit what classification you get at the end of it all? (Well unless you do Engineering, Medicine or Law that is.) So I can turn around to some snob and say “oh look at me, I got a first.” I do sometimes wonder where the logic is in spending all this money for a piece of paper, about 14 hours of lessons a week, and uninspiring teachers. It could well be I, who doesn’t really know what he wants. All I knew is that I wanted to come to university since I enjoyed school work up until college. Here, it has just killed any desire that I had to work. Maybe I can get you a better job, but when you see the amount of people here who are clearly going to do better than you because mummy and daddy pay for EVERYTHING that they do- they don’t have to worry about jobs and rent- and know that they will have money regardless of what happens after this, it does make me wonder if this was at all worth it. For the sake of not being bored, hell yes, it has been worth it. For the sake of academic progress, well, I’m 6 hours away from making or breaking a module, and I have one more year to redeem myself. Ah well, no turning back now, I’m three quarters of the way to the finishing line. Well, sorry for this little nonsensical rant of mine. I often seek ways to avoid doing work, whatever the hour. I’ll this: For the life experience- if you’re willing to step out and meet people- this has been definitely worth it. But academically wise? Probably not a wise pursuit if dedication is an issue. I wish there was some sort of happy medium! Anyway, students of the world, soldier on, and maybe just maybe things might turn around for us. Maybe, just maybe, we’ll reach that happy state where we can be a swot for a few hours then learn to enjoy the rest of the experience. If you do feel you need to drop out, screw what other people think of you. I’m pretty certain that they will have things that they screwed up in their lives, so who are they to judge? We are only human. Right, well enough of my anonymous rant in the virtual world. Good luck to you all in life, no matter what you chose to do. Just make sure that you find a moment of happiness.

  532. DeathMagickForAdepts

    University does sound familiar… Almost everyone is narrow minded, fake or pretentious. A bit like society in general, but just a claustrophobic and even more anally retentive one. Thank Christ I’m not going to university this summer. I’m in my final year of 6th form and while every other pompous prick in my year is making their way to university I’ll be training as a teaching assistant, and earning money. Some of you poor sods sound like you’re having a miserable time. It’s not that I don’t want to do a degree, in fact I’m already looking at Open University courses, it’s just that university somehow seems even worse than school, partially because you’re living there. I’m not a hopeless case academically – I managed A B B at AS level in Music, English Lit, and Classics. I don’t want to waste my life in an educational institute. I am now certain that I’ve made the right choice to shun university thus far. Thank you, oh fellow allies.

  533. a lot of the things that i have read on this site are identical to what i am feeling. Since i was around 12-13 years old i knew that i wanted to go to university and knew exactly what i wanted to do, over my school and college years i was able to incorporate having a brilliant social life and getting good grades, i was the top male in school and was the highest achieving male on my college course in its history of being ran, along with doing what the hell i wanted, when i wanted to. So i left college and in the summer i started to become a bit apprehensive about going to university, but nonetheless i decided that it would be the best thing for, along with pressure from my parents and not wanting to let anybody down. Since i have been to university i have never felt so shit before in my life, dont get me wrong i still go out and socialise, still concentrate on my football all the things that i want to do, but i have always been told that with a piece of work, the more you do the better your grade will be, so i sit there and work my balls off doing an assignment and getting it to a good standard, yet i find myself with lower marks than people who do fuck all during the week and complete the work either the day before, or actually on the day it should be handed in, because they are always out drinking or generally doing nothing, now that pisses me off, but also i feel there is a lot of favouritism at uni, the people who are good a licking arse are always the ones with the best marks, and always the ones that are prioritised with the lecturers. I also agree a lot with people when they say that people at uni are fake and are fresh from college, born into wealthy families and are just at university to please their parents, which is not a culture i would want to be associated with. Another thing that annoys me is that the lecturers deliver presentations that are just copied and pasted from the internet, and i go to a university in the uk, so why do i find myself sitting in a lecture with the lecturer talking to themselves at the front or asking themselves why there is american spelling in the presentation or saying that they do not know why that bit of information is in there, i also find lecturers to be very pig headed and love to talk about themselves, at least 5 times a lecture do i find the teacher talking about what they have done, what they have seen, who they know etc, i dont care about that to be honest i just want to learn, but when poor lectures are being delivered and the information seems pointless i cant seem to stay motivated or have the desire the want to do the work most of the time, and this has never been the case before and i do not like it. another thing that i dislike is that i feel like there is too much pressure, as countless numbers of assignments have been handed in, with three more to hand in before the end of the year, already had countless numbers of tests, along with lab classes and tutorials etc so i find myself not being able to go through one day without thinking about the next piece of coursework or the next test. Now i could go on for much longer but i just cant be bothered, i just think that i am in a catch 22 now, i am in my first year and i have basically finished i only have to go back for 3 exams and then its the summer, this year has though flown by, but when i think back the only time i can feel positive or happy about uni is when i think of anything that has happened during a lunch break etc, at christmas i said to my parents i would leave it to the end of the year to evaluate what i want to do, but i told them i do want to go to uni but maybe not on that course, but now i am even starting to change my mind about that as i just dont think its for me and i am learning far less. does anybody think that leaving and getting a job coming home to a loving girlfriend, family and great friends and not having to worry about tests, assignments or anything would be worthwhile, without fear of being seen as a dropout? any response is good, thanks for listening, well reading my rant lol

  534. Posted on here a while back in Sept ’07. I left university shortly after that and took a year out working. I’m now at a university closer to home, to friends and family, and feel a hell of a lot better. Good luck to anybody struggling out there and finding at least some comfort in this webpage, I know I did. “Have the courage to fail big and stick around. Make them wonder why you’re still smiling.” “I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.” “Think of a car driving through the night. The headlights only go 100 or 200 feet forward, and you can make it all the way from California to New York driving through the dark, because all you have to see is the next 200 feet. And that’s how life tends to unfold before us. If we just trust that the next 200 feet will unfold after that, and the next 200 feet will unfold after that, your life will keep unfolding. And it will eventually get you to the destination of whatever it is you truly want, because you want it. “

  535. You guys are right on the money Uni is fucked up. I currently have this fucked up lecturer who for god know why wont put any notes on what he talks about on class website, if you miss it in hte lecutre your fucked. I work full time and he expects people to just drop everything in their life for his stupid 30min presentation that at the end of the day really teach you jack shit except for how he wants you to present your pissy assignment. For me Uni hasnt really taught me anything about my field of work, my degree to me feels like a jack of all trades where they taught me a load of crap that really doesnt advance me in my field, they dont go in depth on any topics but I think thats because the lecturers dont really know what their talking about aswel. For me the only good thing that Uni has brought to me is my job, they are paying for most of the degree, but the funny part is that nothing in the degree relates to my job. Uni should be no more then 50% study and should be 50% practical working in industry, thats the real way you learn how your field works, not by some tight ass lecturer who has never worked in the real world.

  536. OMFG i cant believe i have found so many other people that feel just like me. UNIVERSITY CAN LICK MY BALLS. im in my first year and just finished the first 6 weeks of my course. ive been sitting here staring at a fucking word document with a heading for the last 2 hours trying to write a fucking 2500 word essay on descarte and how he fukin thought i mind was different to our bodies..I MEAN WTF HOW IS THIS RELEVENT TO GETTING ME A JOB!?!? b4 uni i thought itl be the best, i took a year off, chilled, and got reddi for uni, getting my parents off my back. OMG i wanna kill myself, every week there is a new essay or assignment to do which has nuthn to do with anythn ffs. FUCK THIS im dropping out and getting a trade like th rest of my mates…who have house deposits and own their own fucking car at the AGE OF 19. FUCK!

  537. i hate university because i’m not getting taught, i’m teaching myself. what the hell am i paying for? i spend endless hours pouring over books trying to absorb minute details about a topic that i really couldn’t give a shit about, just to pass a class. this isn’t what university should be about. people don’t learn by listening to boring lectures, they learn by questioning things, playing around, being creative and discussing issues. unfortunately you can’t be creative at uni. there’s no room for flexibility, there’s just too much to learn in such a short time that that you have to sacrifice genuine learning for rote memorization, and be content with it. it just sucks so much. at the end of it you leave with a piece of paper that may or may not help you get anywhere, and the sinking feeling that you might have blown years of your life on a degree that you really know nothing about. it’s a fucking joke. fuck university and the insipid soul sucking system it’s become.

  538. This website is so awesome! The first time I visited was when I was taking organic chemistry, and bloody hell, I just wanted to die. I love school, I love learning, and I love biology. I didn’t go there to make friends (I know it’s harsh, but true). Honestly, I’ve got some solid friends from other areas of my life and I don’t need these university idiots. I find that a lot of biology students are arrogant jerks, who think because they can memorize pathways and mechanims are brilliant. Ask them the freakin capital city or where a country is, or what happened in Rwanda, and none of these freaks can answer. I had a brutal time my first two years and am finally figuring out the system. My grades are up and I’ve actually met some teachers who like their job and treat you like humans. However, most of this crap is still shit. I hate being forced to take classes I will never ever use (ie. Freakin calculus and physics…I want to be a microbiologist/immunologist) and deal with stupid idiots, whose moms wash their laundry. Most of these people have no real life experience or responsibilty, and say “oh it’s so easy” cuz your dad’s paying your tuition and your moms making dinner and washing your bloody clothes. I am a 22 and married and am in my 4th year for getting my B.Sc. It’s gonna take me a little longer to get that bc I actually have to get my groceries myself and cook. It pisses me off when I see these idiots getting wasted and then bitch about how they did so bad on that exam and how they don’t have money(or worse yet, do better than me, even though I spend two weeks studying for the freakin test). Do what makes you happy people! Find your passion and ignore all the idiots who are in your way. As for the people who are saying ” Oh I used to love this subject before and uni has killed it” well, high school was only a taste of what the subject truly is. University is the real picture and if you don’t like it, GET OUT NOW. You will be unhappy forever, because the subject will never change. Don’t waste your life doing things you dont want to do. There’s too many of those people already: our profs, those dick doctors, evil lawyers. And let me tell you something else. The people we are in school with now are worse than they were before. School shootings and girls getting raped at parties? WTF is wrong with this system? EVERYTHING. It’s because people are forced to (or think they are) do something they don’t want to. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and find your passion! Good luck everyone

  539. I hate it too. i’m in first year. All the 4th years in Education said it would get so much easier after 4 weeks. i hate it so much, I ahve an assignment every week for Biology and it’s my fucking elective. I’d rather eat shit. I just want to give up, I don’t care but everytime someone says “it’ll be fine” it just makes it worse. how can everyone just be so fucking ignorant? it won’t. and that’s ebing relaistic, not negative. i wanted to major/magor in english. i just give up on spellign and grammar right now. oh and typing.

  540. I feel so much for Sophie, I couldn’t agree more though. I have spent the last 5 years going through college and Access Courses to get into uni, all I’ve ever wanted to do is/was teach, however, now, because of the system, I don’t even know if I want to do that any more. I study art, I used to be good, I used to be able to sell my work, then I went to uni and it has single handedly managed to kill my passion, I can’t come up with ideas, I have no inspiration, everything I do isn’t modern enough or not conceptual enough, why can you no longer appreciate aesthetics with equal importance? I started uni at the age of 23, now I didn’t think I was old but I moved out of home when I was 16 and I have a home and a job so I didn’t move into halls which I think was a major mistake because it is SOOOOO much harder to make friends!!! I’ve done the clubbing thing, I don’t wanna drink till I throw up and I have a boyfriend so I don’t want to go out on the pull, i just don’t fit in. I know I am there to learn but a friendly face and someone to have coffee with would make things so much better, I’m so alone and miserable, I’ve given up my career, my nice house and so much more to come to this place and now I feel that I’ve lost everything, I would never ever advise anyone to go to university, it’s just not worth it.

  541. The thing i hate most, are the rubish lecturers. I pay all this money to be taught by someone who gives me nothing (if not less) than a book or internet alone offers – and their contemptuous attitude towards non-accedemics (i.e. students). Good inspiring ‘teachers’! are very few and far between. I have 1 in 6!

  542. We are in a con dudes university is the biggest load of shit ever. Tons of cash pumped in to control our minds and thoughts, useless cramming of useless academic bullshit… The whole system sucks and is founded on elitism. I am so glad I too like many others stumbled across this god send of a sight typing i hate uni into google. Its a big fat cat business! Fuck Uni

  543. Guys, if you don’t enjoy uni there is no point being there. you will have no motivation, therefore not put in enough effort, not get good grades and waste 3/4 years of your life. if you want to be a doctor, vet, nurse etc you have to go to uni but seriously, spend your time working and making contacts and get a job that way. experience can be worth just as much as education.

  544. Yay! People I can relate too! I got into Law School at an prestigious Australian university, have a 6.0 Grade Point Average, have been receiving 7s all Semester long, and absolutely hate my life. I have no idea why I’m doing Law. I’m also doing Arts majoring in Political Science, which is a little more tolerable, but still stiffling in it’s own manner. I just want to drop out and take acting classes, study make-up or make pots. Just something where I can have a little room to breath. Maybe I’m just crazy or egotistical, because all my friends love university. They seem to enjoy the exclusitivty of it. But I feel like there are better things in me. More creative things that I can contribute to the world. I want to tell my parents that I’m taking a gap year or something. But they would never be happy with that. It seems like the more I achieve academically, the harder they push. I’m joing the chorus here, and saying FUCK UNIVERSITY. People say that it represents freedom, knowledge, friendships, but all uni provides is the freedom to get a highly-paid desk job, the knowledge that everybody else has in highly-paid desk jobs has, and friendships based on arrogance and superiority. Shit. Where is my life going?

  545. I hate university, you spend half your time worrying about uni fees,and how to pay for them (no loan for me) And then you get all this ticky box dictator crap. If I wanted to spend me youth like this it would have been cheaper to be behind bars! Because thats how you feel (like your in jail) and the only thing you look forward to is finishing the sentance.

  546. I am just finishing my 2nd year in Computer Science and i have to say its the most boring course in the world! i think that the teaching is shocking, unorganised and people are arrogant twats! i have friends on the course and they feel the same way too! i cannot wait until my course is over and the only reason I’m still on it is because i want to be a teacher and hopefully let kids know that uni isn’t what its cracked up to be and only do it if you need to not just for the uni life. Most of the friends i have that have already graduated work in call centres because their degree’s are worthless… i think its just a very expensive waste of time and think that the government should make more ways easily accessible to people to gain further education!

  547. im a first year and uni sucks. im gonna drop out. though i have friends and shit i cant imagine studying for the next fukin 5 years waste of my brain space. icant look at another book it makes me puke.

  548. I hate southbank, period!

  549. Michael B (Adelaide)

    I don’t know what everyone is complaining about. I just love getting up at 6 in the morning every single day, dragging my arse to uni for some boring-ass lecture on semiotics, falling asleep half way through, waking up in an empty lecture theatre an hour later, going ot the computer pools to type up my 900th assignment, staring at a computer screen all day, travelling to another campus for another lecture in the afternoon, working in a supermarket for five hours after that before heading back to uni to complete an assignment due that week, studying until four in the morning, going home for a couple hours sleep, up at seven, back to uni, hand up my assignments online, computer crashes, USB breaks, technical malfunction means my work, which took me 400 hours to do, sacrificing any and all social life, does not get submitted on time, fail assignment, re-submit,lose 50% of marks, go home, eat two minute noodles, friend rings, can’t hang out got work to do, girlfriend rings, can’t see her today, work to do, hand in more assignments, all assignments are done, great relief, except another four are due that week, doh! No sleep for 5 days straight, exams come up, study arse off, nothing I studied is in exam, fail exam, go to work at supermarket, never go out, never have fun, stare at computer all day, sit down to do work, get distracted by site where people post comments complaining about uni. I love it! NOT!!!!

  550. fakeplastictree

    i just spent about 24000 going to college for three years, and now i’m about to splash out tens of thousands more for the next fucking three years, just so i can get a whatever job and pay off ridiculous asshole student debt into my thirties. i’m not even sure exactly what job i want when i’m all done. ridiculous. sweden or whatever has it right … why does this cost so much fucking money if it’s the only way we can move forward or do anything in this country? you used to be able to get away without it if you had talent in something..not the case anymore. im not looking forward to crawling back into the black hole of student life. fuckkkkkk thissssssss.

  551. Needless to say, in the time since Real’s butthurt posting, I’ve been able to find a career field (power engineering) that basically has guaranteed good paying work right off the bat (by that; I mean like a semester). tl;dr I’ll have a job while Real sucks management cock for a shitty white collar cubical-slave job. hth

  552. love uni, love the course, made loads of friends, in 2nd year with two more years left, wicked.

  553. Hateit I agree with you. I didn’t give a shit in high school, it all just seemed so pointless. I had friends alright, but the work just bored the shit outta me so I just didn’t care. Therefore logically I never got the grades I would have liked. I just got into uni and into engineering and thought hey this will be interesting I’ll learn, I’ll grow. What a fucking lie, that place is so goddamn dull. Engineering, calculus, and computer science have to be 3 of the most dull, difficult mindfuck subjects I have ever done. Think I’ll either talk to the counselors about extending the course out or repeating the semester. Guess what, this is my first semester, god I’m a retard. Can’t exactly drop out though, I’m the all singing all dancing golden boy, my family expected me to do be here, to pass, to succeed. The way I see it I have a few options. I can draw this whole fucking process out an extra year to see how I go. I can off myself like I’ve considered, and blame the university(I’m a nihilist, I don’t really hold my life to be that sacred) I can burn the fucking university to the ground and they can carry me away laughing. Can’t believe I wrote that that but I really mean it. I god damn hate university, only here for the cash at the end. Should really just go to polytech.

  554. Uni in a sentence “Pay us $12000 grand and in 4 years we will give you a certificate that might help you get a job”. Hrm not a scam at all.

  555. Im from South Africa and studying in one of da “best” unis, Stellenbosch. Im only starting my 2nd sem tmrw and i feel like im losing myself,evry1 around me looks perfectly happy,makes me sick its as if ill never reach my goals, which iv already 4gotten bout now. Anyway remember lifes more than degrees an paper Just screw societies “ideals” and laugh bout it

  556. I didn’t really enjoy uni either or make friends for life. In fact, I wanted to leave the whole time but felt an immense pressure to stay because I felt I should be able to make friends and should not think my tutors were on a permanent ego trip. After I left I could clearly see it wasn’t right for me. People on my course for the whole three years were cliquey and standoffish. I got so sick of putting myself out there because if I was ncie people acted like I was weird and if I was cold they acted the same. I have never had problems fitting in anywhere before! Because I could never afford to go again I stuck with it, took a year out in the middle and went back. I felt so satisfied to have completed the course with a good mark when I hated it so much. It felt like giving the lot of them the finger somehow. I won’t look back on it as the best years of my life at all though!!

  557. normally i dont post on websites but after reading most of these posts i agree with close to 100% of it all. i went to uni for a year, it was anticlimax but i cracked on until 2nd year wen i had to take on 3 jobs, then evenyually go full time in a nightclub. wasnt the best time, esp wen the housem8s i had werent exactly poor. anyway the point is iv dropped out after 2 years, have a full time job 9-5 and love it. im gona do open uni eventually but for now im working solidly and earning cash, aswell as learning things i will ACTUALLY NEED in life (im working for a bank now…) just a word to anyone who reads this; you arent alone, dont be afraid to go your own way despite what anyone thinks, i dropped out and never looked back. fuck uni, fuck students and fuck lecturers

  558. Overwhelmingly Disappointed

    University is managed by its shareholders demanding year on year profits. The tuition is so sparse that binge drinking has permeated student life even at the supposedly prestigious university’s such as Oxbridge. An ever increasing debt for a meaningless piece of paper awaits you after 3 years of what can only be described as a soul destroying experience, with the lecturers being paid a ridiculous salary to offer minimal advice and dire tuition consisting of short lectures in which the contents of a book is read to the students culminating in a reading list being thrust in the students hands to be read for the following weeks 2 hours of tuition.

  559. Oh, i’m so glad i found this site. There seems to be an assumption in society that university is the time of your life and you meet all your great friends there. But, that’s just not true. The problem is that you feel like you’re strange when that doesn’t happen, like you’re the only one not having the time of your life.

    I’m at a prestigious UK university doing a History course and i’m about to go into my second year. Last year, i did make friends on my course and in the clubs that i joined. But, i don’t feel close to them. They’re very nice and i like having lunch,going to lectures, going the pub with them, but, after a year of effort i still feel no emotional or intellectual connection with them. Which leaves me feeling lonely. Luckily, i’m still close with my friends from sixth form, so that’s a treat when i’m at home on holiday.

    Then, there was my flat mates. Who are vile. All they seem to care about is getting drunk. They would always sit around and watch the Hills (yes, really) in the kitchen, despite not liking the programme i used to sit with them trying to make friends. But, that never worked. Then, one day i brought a dvd for us all to watch, but i was told to “fuck off” so i stopped trying after that. It was a very cliquey hall, and if you weren’t in the clique you were treated poorly.

    The worse of it is the education provided. I only get 8 hours a week, only two of which do i get actual contact with a tutor. Yet, i’m still paying the same ridiculious fee that those who have 20+ hours are. The professors are terribly self centered and lazy. For example, once when i was writing my coursework, i didn’t fully understand something i read in a book, so, i went to my tutor for help and was told he was too busy doing research for his book and i’d have to sort myself out. I’m paying an extortionate amount of money to recieve preety much no help. I’m teaching myself, not being taught by so called ‘experts’. I could teach myself what i learnt this year for the price of a pass to the local libary .

    The grind of having one assigment after another, one exam after another is getting to me too. I feel like i only know how to pass an exam and have no real skills to bring to a job. This all really gets to me sometimes.

    So, i can’t say i’m looking forward to next year, nor will i look back on uni as the time of my life. I’m only going now to please my parents.

  560. Why do we have to blindly follow what others want us to do? I’m so sick of everyone’s expectations of what I need to study! Why are most people so centered on money? Yes, it’s important to have a job to support family but no one says you have to make millions even if other people are getting scammed. My mom is so stubborn, she just doesn’t see it. She always thinks “money, money, money”. I don’t want to be a lawyer, it’s just not my thing. So what that you can make lots of money. Not everyoen does. Only the few fortunate ones that enjoy ripping people off. Why can’t do what I love? Nurses make good money too. So what that I won’t be wearing business suits? I hate it anyway. I just want to live my life. Is it so damn hard to let it be and let me do what I want? Why doesn’t she drop everything and study law if she’s so obsessed with it. I’m on really bad terms with the university now because of my marks. I just can’t make myself study something I hate. They don’t know I’m debarred for two years. I don’t know what to do, my life is in turmoil now. I feel like jumping off a cliff right now. Somebody help me get back on track =(

  561. Fuck i hate this place.

    i started with computers before i was a teenager, started programming when i was 13 and never stopped. half of the shit i’ve “learned” at university, i already knew and the other half i taught myself anyway… so what’s the purpose of paying for it? i know, so my stupid fucking parents can say that i got a degree. great. meanwhile i’m heading into a jobless future due to over saturation of the market and the lingering effects of a recession that barely happened here (BUT THE MEDIA SAID IT WAS FUCKING DISASTEROUS! news corp dropping 11% in a quarter is not a market indicator, everyone else did pretty good, packer’s just a dickhead without [technological] vision, but i digress).

    on top of that i have the pressure of my wife and her family on top of me. she hates it here and we’re moving to her home town at the end of my degree, so obviously it’s “PASS PASS PASS!” so we can get out of here a.s.a.p. there’ll be a few friends that i’ll miss, but i like where she comes from. her mother is a bit of a pain in the arse, but they all are. at least she likes me.

    on top of this, my university is fucking awful. i’ve met one good lecturer while i’ve been there. he actually gives a shit about the quality of your learning. unfortuantely i’ve had him for one semester and that’s it, i won’t have him for the rest of my degree. the rest of the I.T teaching staff are conceited fuckheads. they have no interest in teaching students, only in furthering their own academic careers. it is very rare that any of the i.t academics ever come up with anything innovative, so why do they even fucking bother?

    in short, i struggle through each day. i love the field that i’m going into (web programming), but i never get to fucking do any! i’ve had 2 subjects on PHP throughout the entire 3 years! i’m actually pretty sure i’ve spent more time on HTML than PHP… if you can’t get HTML the first time, there’s no hope for you.

    another exam tomorrow. i haven’t studied for it, i can’t be fucked. it’s another piss poor multiple choice exam, 30 questions, worth 10 or 15% or something. will no doubt take the asian lectuere (who can’t speak proper english) 7 weeks to get me a result. i’m still waiting for a result from last semester. it’s been 8 weeks now. i’ve just made a resolution that i’m going to go in there tomorrow and go fucking ape at the bitch. i’m sick of the “softly softly” approach. it doesn’t get you anywhere in this place.

    I get average marks. Simply because I don’t care any more. I just want to get the fuck out of here. My only motivation is that if I fail, I have to repeat the course. Labouring was much easier than university.

  562. I totally agree university sucks, it is definitely a place of business more than a place of learning where people try to be more open minded, it’s garbage. Tuition is so high while the gains are uncertain and a load of people don’t even know what they are doing and which major they are going into. It’s hard to be motivated under such conditions. With that being said, I do believe there are DEFINITELY people who are part of the university system that genuinely care, perhaps I’m simply lucky to meet certain profs and organisation or people who work within the University that do care. The majority doesn’t, unfortunately. Sometimes I can’t tell which people are on my side or they are just there to promote their own program so more funding can go into that field for research. I’m going into second year university. I still have some hope, I just fear it might be completely crushed by the end of the terms. My university has some anti ‘I’m-going-crazy’ support systems (partly where the tuition is dedicated to).

    I just think, if other people have gone through university and successfully obtain there degree AND are happy with their life (with struggles of course) and make a decent amount of money…no matter how hard it seems at the moment, it will be worth it and will get better.

    I think another reason why people feel a burning hatred for University ,though understandbly so….has less to do with University than it has to do with feeling pressured to make a lot of money. A lot people trade passion for money. Happiness for prestige and great reputations. It’s vanity and the way we’ve always been conditioned to think. I am no exception, but I think if society didn’t put this much pressure on us, we would be loads happier and healthier and possibly less materialistic. Goodness, what we do and risk for money.

    Perhaps the luckiest and tactful people are the ones who are passionate about a field that rakes in a good amount of money with high job security. Their passion helps them make money.

  563. fuckedupblackkid

    Hey guys I typed up Fuck University and came across here… I am an engineer (well atleast I was an computer engineering student until I failed) the course was so fucking hard the profs sucked so much balls it pissed me off.. plus on top of all that honestly I’m really good at math. FUCK PHYSICS!! My parents want me to go back. Honestly I feel so low. I’m 19 but.. I feel so lost .. But sooner or later I’ll have to go back (you know father son pride thing + JOB) but honestly not to be pessimistic but eng jobs dont seem ez to get (not with the fucked up economy worldwide) shit I should havde been a doctor.. (NAH.. fuck that bullshit too much money wasted).
    Anyways just a tip for anyone who wants to succeed: Do what you love, b/c that way when you get up in the morning you dont have to say “Fuck… I hate [enter majoring subject] lectures”. Oh and by the way Waterloo isnt all big as they say.. its actually very shitty ( I got in the most competitive program and its not all that great) FUCK THEM! and profs (not all)!!

  564. i_hate_medicine

    i hate university so much…

    i never usually post comments on sites like this but i felt as if i just had to let my voice be heard for all of us out there who feel the same.

    i am 19 years old and am just about to start my second year of studying medicine. before i went to university i loved my life: i felt i had a purpose on this planet and had hopes & dreams for the future. i had a few fantastic, close friends and had a level-headed, optimistic outlook on life. i worked SO hard to get AAAA at a-level and on my UKCAT and personal statement and all that rubbish. i was so sure that university would be “best years of my life” and could not wait to start. within two months my life was going downhill: i stuggled to make friends, i hated being away from home, i began binge-eating (and still have some concerns over my health) and everyday was a huge struggle.

    (unfortuatley)i passed my end of year exams and i have to go back to uni in a few months because my parents will not allow me to give up on this “fabulous career”. i am dreading another 5 years of this hell and don’t even want to be a doctor. i tried very hard to make the first year go well, but it did not. i feel so trapped and have nowhere to turn. hopefully this year will be better but the thought of walking back into that university makes me feel sick.

    TO ALL THOSE WHO WANT TO STUDY MEDICINE AT UNI IN THE FUTURE: be absolutely sure that this is what you want to do. medicine is a hard course and is not to be taken lightly. i thought that i was the perfect candidate for undergraduate medicine, but now i fear that i am a canged person – for the worse. i think i am becoming clinically depressed and my life is spiralling away from me.

    if i had my time again i would deliberately fail my a-levels.

  565. I think the most frustrating thing about university is that professors all seek your undivided attention for class work and lectures. When you have 5 classes, all telling you to read hundreds of pages from overly academic texts, SIMULTANEOUSLY, then it gets really fucking insane. Did you know that in order to do “well” in a class, you have to put in at least 2-3 hours of studying each day per class! I don’t know about you but unless you snorting cocaine everyday, you’re gonna be pretty fucked up once friday rolls around. What really pisses me off though is that all professors tell you that if you can’t manage this ridiculous, vomit inducing schedule, they tell you that you need to work on your time management skills. No wonder so many of us are developing tell tale signs of CLINICAL DEPRESSION. And trust me, that’s the last thing any of us needs while at uni.

    To any of you who are seriously depressed (I was), you REALLY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT B/C IT’S NOT GONNA GO AWAY ON ITS OWN–TRUST ME ON THIS ONE B/C I WAS LITERALLY PRAYING TO GOD TO KILL ME AT ONE POINT (consequently, I lost faith in God b/c i didn’t see how he/she/whatever could see someone in such a bad state, such as the one that I was in, that he couldn’t even lend a hand).

  566. i didnt realise that these sentiments were shared so widespread. I hate uni, its shit. im starting my 2nd yr of dentistry, and its shit. The course is shit, the ppl on the course are shit, fake and gay.
    clubbing is the only past time of these ppl, its like the goverment has provided one outlet for young ppl, and has thus neutered young ppls ability to think politically.
    oh god the course, its awful, im taught the most random bullshit; random anatomy, 2 many behavioral techniques, and how to lie to ur patients.
    all for a piece of paper, just a piece of paper. i agree with the above comments saying uni is just a method of maintaining a social order. let the poor ppl become footballers/brick layers/electricians and the better off become lawyers/doctors/architects.
    from films and general bullshit bout uni in the past, it seemed like a hotbed for debate on political and sociological matters, but that was just a lie. a big fat one.
    we are the children of no great war, depression, or disaster, as a result we feel like we have no purpose, specific meaning or goal. that is if ur not suckered by the paper dreams of university

  567. I hate life. That has got to me and my mind. I started university 3 days ago. And I already hate it. Honestly i want to cry out loud and tell my parents that uni is just weird. Just like many of you i have almost 2 hour ride to uni, by the time i get there, im too tired. sometimes i wake up 5:30 to get to class at 8. its all bs. Does anyone have any tips on avoiding depression. im trying to be happy and think happy but i can’t think of anything but school and all the bs they are throwing at me. High school was so easy and fun. Im not saying Uni should be easy but the least they could do it is make it a little fun. The profs could smile once a while or even other students, they all look at each other with a mean attitude. I think, they are thinking that they are competing against us. I wanna cry. I feel much better(i know i shouldn’t) knowing that there are hundreds of you just like me. thanks and good luck to all.

  568. Ouch my cerebral innards HURT. Yesterday i had an exam. Today, two assignments and an exam. Tomorrow, exam prep for the exam after tomorrow. My brain is too full of information, when i speak, i do so with essay-style language. It is so imbecelic, because after the exam you never need to use that information again…Tis the epitomy of pointless i declare! I wish i had a dumbledore-style pensieve to dump all my thoughts away in…

  569. I love hearing that i’m not the only soul on this planet that hates their uni course.

    I’m in second year doing a B Sc. and I’ve just passed the half way mark of my course. I have hated it since the second day of uni.
    I made an effort to meet people and that failed miserably. I hang out with one person AT uni and have a few acquaintances – that’s it on the social scene. On top of that, I absolutely HATE my course. It is the biggest load of boring bullshit I’ve ever come across. The thing is I thought many times of changing courses but stopped when I realised I haven’t got a clue what I really want to do. So now i might as well finish it… arrrgh. I’m sick of feeling so negative all the time about uni and the way it’s affecting me as a person and turning me into a cynical bitch.

  570. I feel a kinship with so many of you.
    The stories of depression are something i only know too well.
    I dropped out of Uni. My family is pressuring me to go back.
    From my experience, the work world sucks as much as uni but in a different way.
    So the world sucks overall.
    Sad but this is the reality. Maybe the Buddhist path on meditation and detachment may be the only saviour for us all.

  571. Hi, I want everyone in here to know, that we are not alone in this, feeling disconnected and depressed, not caring less about what we learn, dreading to go to yet another day of uni, this is a feeling that us and I’m sure a million more people share but haven’t faced the truth. I think we need a revolution in the way university works, I think society’s got to change so that there is less of a stress on career, so that people care about more important things, autonomy, being happy and helping others.

    I’m a student in my last year of a BA Film degree and I go to a prestigious university that just happens to completely SUCK at arts/communication. My older sister had a wonderful experience at uni that she boasted about, so I had all these dreams about it. THe university I picked was supposedly the place to be for recognition and social life, but within a year all the glamour faded and I was depressed more than ever. The staff at my university (with the exception of about 3 inspiring mentors) are a bunch of people who never made it in the industry and I’m learning from them. I don’t learn anything practical and I don’t get proper direction from my teachers to do what I want. I’m still passionate about film but my experience at university makes me feel…what’s the word…impotent. Now with the fucking recession I don’t even have a part time job, and my degree seems fucking useless in helping me find one. I have zero confidence but a 100% anxiety, I even find it hard to look people in the face at uni and talk, and when I see people I DO know I’m not in the mood to talk to them and I avoid them completely. I took time off to travel (which rocked my socks) but then I was back at uni and the few friends I had graduated. So I know almost no one in my course now, and even if I do make an effort to socialise, as I’m in an arts degree which is flexible, you never see the same people in all your classes. The whole thing is a fucking waste of time. On top of that my uni is so far away from home, I travel 2 hours, in 2 buses and a train, because my car was just wrecked in an accident and I can’t afford to live by myself closer to the uni because I don’t have a fucking job and every fucking day in the train I see people cold and lifeless dressed in suits, carrying suitcases representing everything banal just going to work creating a mass climate of fucked up bullshit alienating, capitalist bullshit of a mental depression.

    I know there are many of you feel this or something worse, but would anyone be interested in perhaps signing a mass petition or something and send it to leaders and institutions around the world and demand they improve uni life, INVEST IN EDUCATION, make it less stressful, cheaper for students and more applicable to real life. Why can’t university make you happy and want to learn more? Many decades ago universities around the world were actually free? can you believe it?

    Is anyone else interested in this? Organising some sort of fucking resistance to this system? Not just for us but for the next generation of kids entering university so that their dreams of a uni life are not shattered. How about starting a PETITION where we can email or write to world leaders, university heads etc demanding some change? WHAT DO YOU THINK?

    V

  572. OMG ugk I totally know what you mean. I was working for the last 2.5 yrs and even though I was earning a respectable salary…I hated sitting in a cubicle and doing the same thing everyday. I felt like a robot. I quit work and went back to school…University…well i hate it….it sucks ass…life does suck..if I hate work and I hate school…???..what do i do in life???

  573. University has all but destroyed me. My little brother went to University and is practically the poster boy for it, but I just don’t fit in at all. If you don’t make friends instantly you are fucked for the rest of your time there. I’m only at University for 8 hours a week, how am I supposed to make life long friends?
    Ive been at univeristy for two years and I havent made a single close friend that I feel I can really open up to.
    Ive decided this year to commute to University even though it is rather a long way, but just because it gives me something to do and somewhere to be and feel needed, not just a student number or an absence mark. Everyone thinks I’m mad and it’s hard to ignore them and believe that this is the right decision for me, but I have to do something. I wanted to drop out and start again from a University at home but I had not the courage to admit I suck at University, which makes it harder for my family to understand my current decision because I’ve just been hiding my strife. One year to go, one year to go of this expensive mistake.

  574. I can’t believe there are so many people who hate uni aswell!!! I’m about to start my second year and hate it sooooooo much. I am dreading going back. The thing is I like the course but I effing hate every thing else. The fake people, the boring journey, the mindless ‘social’ events. Urgh! It has sucked out every atom of positivity I had inside of me! I went in to uni thinking I was going to have the time of my life but I feel that at the end of my degree I’m going to be a soulless being who will just exist and do her work but have nothing else to offer! I need to get away from uni but I haven’t got the courage to do so :(

  575. anyone go sheffield hallam and want a friend?: i currently have no friends and im a third year :(

  576. I hate universtity with a passion.I’m currently studying Media and not only do i not have any proper friends in uni, but my current friends who attend different uni’s are drifting away from me, not to mention most of the things i’ve learnt in uni are things ive already learnt in college and im in debt!

  577. I start uni tomorow. For “freshers week.” Which is compulsory , I dont want to dress up as a school girl and go to a “school disco” or a “beach party” I wouldn’t do it at home so why should i do it at university with people i don’t know. I think I hate it already, i just saw the light and don’t see the point in it no more.

  578. Wow, at least im not alone in all this sadness.
    Ive spent one night here at uni and have already had enough, I ive been socialised into this and have just had enough of the system.

    I am going to try to give me lessons a chance because i think i owe it to my parents, but i really do want to find a way out.

    WHY the FUCK do i let social pressures get to me!!!!!

  579. I’ve gone past hating university, I get the work done and to a high standard I have done since I started

    Everyone has families of their own now, they all have stable jobs, they all have comfortable lifes.

    In uni by 9am finish at 1am thats a 16hour day every day, go home and sleep if I’m lucky, I’m now programmed to be awake 48hours and sleep 10 or work for three weeks with only 2 hours a night when major deadline approach.

    I’m a 6th year architecture student.

    I’ve gone past hating university.

    I just want to live.

  580. Me for President

    I haven’t even started uni yet and I’m not looking forward to it in the slightest.I’m not living on campus so travelling in for 40min lectures is going to be a total pain in the arse and also why is freshers’ week practically compulsory? I’m going to uni to learn, not to ruin my liver. why get myself into more debt through drinking with mindless people who have no purpose in the world and are just at uni because they are so boring they can’t even get a job in an office and then wind up in hospital with someone else’s liver in me. My bloody fiance has moved a million miles away aswell so that’s going to be shit and at the end of the day people only go to uni because they think they should. if you get so much as a c at a level, that’s it-your only option is to go to uni. there was so much pressure on me to go, i would’ve practically been abandoned if I hadn’t gone. If we were back in the old days when only the deserving went to uni I’d be quite happy. Or if we went back even further and I could start a family now without everyone tutting saying I’ve wasted my life. I want a job-I want to be a teacher so uni’s the only way to get that but what a fucking load of shit that’s turned out to be.

  581. I hate university too! I’m in Reading, and I am having the worst time of my life. I hate the course, the people, the “events”. I wish I could leave, but I can’t see any way out of it, without my parents and myself having wasted a ton of money. I’m going into my second year next week, but I have never been so depressed in my life. I wish I could drop out.

  582. Hey,
    I’ve been thinking that there shoould be some place where people could exchange e-mails or so to get in touch with other at their Uni who also hate it. I myself got over hating Uni but my 1st year was a sad experience. But now I think that if there’s anyone at my Uni who doesn’t like it than I’d like to be meet you, be a friends. Because from my point of view everyone around me was so damn happy and ecited! What was even more annoying as I knew they would not understand me. So well, think about it:) I’m at University of Sussex.

  583. Thank God I am not the only one who has not taken to uni and hates it within the first week. The freshers week programme is completely fuelled by alcohol and all those around me keep me awake at night. I would’nt go out solely to get drunk before I arrived, I would go out to have a social drink and meet friends. As well, everyone who has arrived at this uni already knows each other and stick in tight-knit groups, so I feel crap and left out in activities. The minute I talk to these people they resort to alcohol and loudmouthing/shouting or blank me. My 4th day at uni and I am despising it. Don’t want to let it on to my parents who would be ashamed of me if I did. The induction lecture, although not the course was dreary and made me sleepy…at 2:30pm! I feel like I am trapped and everyone just says it will get better. Yeah right!

  584. is this it?

    is this how i am to spend the best years of my life?

    is there something i am doing wrong?

    is this the result of all my years of hard work and dedication at school?

    is it just me, or does anyone else think that happiness, love, freedom and equality are more important than this?

    is there anyone out there studying at any uni in london, UK, that needs someone to talk to?

    is there a day when i will not be at university?

    there is. i cannot wait untill that day comes :)

    winston churchill once said:

    IF YOU ARE GOING THROUGH HELL… KEEP GOING.

  585. Hey there, my second day at university, and it fucking sucks. Whats the point of leaving where i had shitloads of friends a beautifull girlfriend for this hellhole. I have 0 friends, where everyone around me seems so confident. The events are alchohol induced manic places, shitloads of drugs, and people far more confident than i. If it continues, i will drop out, whatever the parents say, get on a plane. If anyone wants to get in touch, do, a friend would be awesome.
    Im at Nottingham doing History. Just gimme a shout on here, il give you my email.

  586. yeh i agree with the above sombra …. id sure love to find ppl , people say u can make friends at uni no matter what ur interests are and its a load of bull coz u cant … if u dont like clubbin and the uni events u dnt stand a chance coz thats what alot of students go to uni for, in the first year i was dead fake and joined in till xmas and it dawned on me why! so i stopped and any friends who i did make stopped talkin to me n started gettin bitchy n laughin n it got to the stage i was worried if i went to my room incase they laughed at me sum more, n stupidly lived with them in the second year as well , dunno why! and that was jus as bad and this year im oin my own butmy old flat mates are still on my course so yer …. its aload of shit! O and my new flat on my own its still in halls of residence but its a studio flat n ppl keep tryna kick the door down n bang on it all nite :( hate freshers week this best die down, iv cum to far to drop out now … my advice is any first years whp are unsure of uni now, drop out now or get a transfer t sumwere else, honestly u leave it till xmas ull jus stay ther coz the money is a big issue

  587. Read through most of these posts and I agree with basically all of them. I am in my second year and I have come to the same realization as the rest of you. The only reason it took so damn long was cuz of a couple shitty events that happened to me in my first year which distracted me. Feels like university is killing my soul but I don’t know what to do about it. I don’t like clubbing and the few clubs that I have joined have convinced me how utterly stupid such people are. I don’t know if I am overly cynical or what but as far as I can see university life is over-rated and downright pointless. I would escape this shit if I could but there’s nowhere to run to. I wish there were an alternative. The only reason I am attending university is to find out what career I am suited for. After trying most of the courses, I have realized that all the courses available only give you a taste of what a career in academia is like. Everything is taught from a theoretical point of view. Words permeate the very air at university yet there is little substance to back them up. Everything is from books or the internet and I hate it. It’s no fault of the professor because they too are trapped in this system. It would be splendid if we actually spent a day, or even an hour shadowing a psychologist, just to see what we are getting ourselves into. Or perhaps a week volunteering as the assistant of a politician. University just seems so damn detached from reality that it borders on absurdity.

  588. “I start uni tomorow. For “freshers week.” Which is compulsory , I dont want to dress up as a school girl and go to a “school disco” or a “beach party” I wouldn’t do it at home so why should i do it at university with people i don’t know. I think I hate it already, i just saw the light and don’t see the point in it no more.”

    I agree ive been at uni for freshers stuff all this week and I don’t even fit In, I’m starting to forget why I liked the subject I’m doing anymore and I havn’t even started it yet.

  589. Its nice to know that E (above) and others feel the same. I haven’t enjoyed freshers week one bit, I like to go out and have fun at home but i havn’t been out all week. I got dressed up last and had to go meet everyone in the flat next door and basically got ignored, so went back to my room, so its not like im not trying. I cant understand why some people are even here, many people i have met seem too imature and are acting like they have just been let of a leash. Oh well, lectures start tuesday maybe things will get better then.

  590. Just reading over all your comments & I’m so pleased I’m not the only one who hates/dislikes uni, I do a Bsc in Digital Development, (Basically computing with a new title put on it). I had the same expectations from all my family and friends who have been before me 2 uni, that it would be soooo great and life changing and that I would meet real good, intelligent friends for life. But the hell started from day one, I was one of the first students to apply for the campus rooms but didn’t get it because they said it was random selection from a database, (Fair enough). Oh but they said don’t worry there are plans in place for students who don’t get rooms. Which is called a house share (OMG what hell this was) So I went on this 2 day event where u PAY 50 quid (for what, I really don’t no) and you are meant to meet other students and find a house to share for the next 12 months …… yup meet people u dnt no or might end up hating or being serial killers lol and share everything with them basically.

    So yea I meet 5 other students and we went looking for houses the next day, don’t even remember how many we looked at but over 15 to 20. Finally decided on one and signed a contract with the landlord and letting agency (which got us for every penny, which was to be expected) so rent was 400 quid a month each, not including any bills, admin fees or food etc etc. so every month I was racking up the debt and paying for my car and tuition fees, like all the rest of you guys. After about 2 weeks to a month I then relised I absolutely hated 4 people in the house and only liked one of the girls and got on with her really well (not in that way tho lol), the others basically drove us out the house with the mess and noise and crap, so we both decided we didn’t like living there anymore but had to carry on paying rent coz of the contract, so we slept there Monday to Thursday and I drove home to London and she went back to Dover to meet our old mates and live at home on weekends.

    I needed money so got my old job back at Homebase in London on wkends and carried on from there driving down Monday morning or Sunday night and goin home Thursday night. Which worked out alrightish coz I had two lifes really with loads of mates up London and a few select 1s down there. It’s only an hour or so on the motorway. The parties where alright and the clubs were good and meet loads of different people, none of which I really liked, (apart from the girls LOL) every one being very fake and just trying to cling to any1 they could find which was very sad I found. After the freshers week and parties fayed away and a few ppl dropped out everything went to normal, i found one mate in my class I got on with very well, (not the best start to something that’s meant to be 1 of the best times of your life).

    So my 2nd yr came along and it was just two days a week, the girl I shared a house with dropped out and went to a different uni nearer home, so lost contact with her. The contract for the house had ended and I didn’t see any of them from the house again thank god, although it took us over a year to get the 500 quid deposit back EACH! My 2nd yr was better, money wise, I moved back home and drove down Tuesday, and Thursday mornings, wasn’t too bad, was saving tones of money, and paid back most of my debt, yup that’s right im a student with NO debt right now. My social life was hell with only one mate, it was very dull and boring, dnt get me wrong I tried to make friends, but you can’t really do that when you hate most ppl in your class lol. I didn’t understand why or how I made so many mates in college and meet my best mate there, and still see each other, and then go to uni and hardly find any, if someone has the answer to this please tell me????? I mean it’s not like i’m a freak or cant talk lol.

    Now going in to my 3rd year and only have a few select friends which I haven’t really connected with very much anyway, most people just piss me off at uni with all the stupid “so called” intelligent comments and fake debates about how they will change the world etc etc, blah, blah, blah.

    OHHHH yes there’s more, keep reading!

    I thought I was going in to my final 3rd year when I got a letter a few weeks ago saying I need to re-sit 3 units over the next year before they would let me into the final year because I missed the pass mark by 2 on each exam, (which pissed me off even more!!!). Which now leaves me with 2 more years so in total 4 years. So it’s dragging out more and more and I really wanted to say to the head of my course fuck off I quit, but didn’t want to disappoint my parents, and waste all the time and effort ive put in. Now that ive got to re-sit 3 units, I most prob wont see the few mates I have down there anymore coz they moved on to the final year and ill be left by myself, (awww poor me I no lol).

    So my course is now 1 day a week, fees are lower, and still live at home, again saving tones of money. Sounds perfect but I am seriously getting very depressed socially!

    There is no support or feedback at uni, even tho they say there is, I no it’s meant to be “independent learning” adult etc. But some people just don’t learn that way, especially if there dyslexic. The professors just dismiss people that don’t really get it and tell them to go and do more research or read a book, I mean don’t they think we have fucking tried that already!! (and still r) there is a support center but they don’t specialize in specific course support, just math and English. So you are on YOUR OWN.

    Uni won’t really get you anywhere anyway unless u get a 1st, it’s all about the experience, dispute what the OLD say. All my mates which went straight from college to industry have now got 2 or 3 years experience, which most employees look for, (so it seems from all the job sites and employment agencies) even if its just as a helpdesk agent or tech support, they’ve got the head start. One of my mates is now a manager of an audit team for AGI. With just his A-Levels!! We still have to go out and start from the bottom; even after all this hard work at uni.

    So to sum up uni is crap.

    Thanks for reading

  591. I’ve only just finished my first week and thought there must be something wrong with me cause I’ve just hated every minute of it so far! I, like most people here, assumed university would be full of intelligent, like minded people and there would be activities for everyone to join in on but no, FUCK NO! It’s full of the same numb-skulls you see puking their guts up on Saturday nights and the only clubs and events cater for the aforementioned future alcoholics.

    Also I would have thought that lecturers at a ‘higher education’ institution would treat you with a little more respect or even as an equal but no, they all seem to talk down to students and that just really pisses me off!

    I can only hope the passion I have for my chosen subject and the occasional rants of internet forums is enough to keep me sane for the next three years!

  592. ahh finally people who feel the same as me. uni sucks, i am in my first year of engineering and the lectures are dull and CRAP. So unimaginative i feel as though i am in nursery school or something. cant even leave to do what i want as i still dont have a driving lisence (long story). never wanted to really come but felt that i had to after all the money that my parents pumped into my education, really just want to join the police where u dont need a degree anyway so this course is wasting my life.
    i don’t drink but that has never stopped me having mates before, but here it doe’s. all the idiots here want to do is get battered in a cheap bar on cheaper booze and puke up in the street. also the city is a dump with very little to do near to us.

    FUCK UNI, it’s a piece of shit and all those adults who say otherwise never even fucking went to uni themselves. And what is the point of FRESHERS FUCKING WEEK purely there for people who want to dress up like a faggot.

  593. I started Uni 2 weeks ago and have hated every second of it. I went to the freshers fair and thought I would get to meet loads of different people and find out information about different activities and societies going on so I could meet people with similar interests but all it was was people handing out flyers/leaflets promoting bars and clubs. Everyone already seems to have made friends and I felt ridiculous being there on my own.

    I’ve tried to talk to my flatmate but she’s not a first year and already has her friends so doesn’t really care about making friends with me and is really unfriendly. I tried to meet some people in another flat and they seemed really friendly/invited me to a party and I thought ok, maybe I will make friends after all but when I was there hardly anyone spoke to me no matter how hard I tried. This stupid chav nicked my camera, I know what flat he’s in but if I go round and ask for it back he’ll only deny it. Its my own stupid fault for leaving my bag for a second, you can’t trust anyone here at all.

    The people on my course aren’t any friendlier, I went to another flat party last night (guarded my bag with my life) thinking it might be better but whenever I tried to speak to someone they would just ignore me and go and speak to their fabulous new friends. They all reminisce about things like they’ve known each other for years…

    Proper lectures start next week and I’m trying to stay positive but after the induction this week I just don’t know. Totally agree with Richard about the lecturers talking down to students :S

    Eurghhh, I don’t know if I will survive here!

  594. I completely agree with you. Uni is shit. Its not so much the course its the lifestyle! Uni halls are the worst. Ergh u live in a box, share a kitchen with ppl who are neither interesting or genuine, The place is dirty and u never get a minuite to ureself. Its awful i hate it i hate it i hate it. All n e one ever wants to do is go out and get drunk, it seems everyone has already gone and made best mates with people despite only bein here 2 weeks?!. I was doubting whether i really wanted to go to uni before i came and now im even more certain tht this is nt for me.

  595. Oh god, I remember being on this forum last year and thinking my life was over.

    FOR ALL OF YOU WHO ARE FIRST YEARS – GET READY FOR IT TO SUCK BALLS. You won’t know who to be friends with, how normal profs act, what classes to take to get by without any negativity…basically first year is like learning how to walk all over again but then you get used to it. You figure out how to study, you figure out how to talk to people, you figure out that asking questions isn’t scary and no matter what you are never stupid for asking something – what makes you stupid is being AFRAID to ask and admit it. I was really really stupid last year. In year 2 they don’t try to fail you out as hard, trust me I think most people in my year 1 classes have probably dropped out because I haven’t seen so many of them. Basically be yourselves guys (I’m talking to the first years) and know that not everyone is as confident as they might look – everyone would love to make a new friend in classes, it’s not about everyone shunning you. Sometimes you think that someone won’t talk to you but you end up getting along. I felt so helpless during first year but then I learned and nothing is as stressful anymore. I guess you grow as a person and you figure out how everything works, and once you do that everything falls into place and its not a big scary thing anymore…in fact it gets tiny and you start to realize the magnitude of life itself…life beyond highschool or university, it helps you grow no matter how much you cuss through it all. I aint saying it’s easy, it’s like total rape sometimes, but trust me it will work out of you truly try and not put so much pressure on yourself to have it all in a short period of time. Yes sometimes you only get 2 hours of sleep per night, sometimes you get 30% on an exam you worked your ass off to study for, sometimes you feel like your head will explode but after you get through everything TRUST ME YOU WILL FEEL LIKE A ROCK STAR. Uni isn’t about getting you into a boring job, you can do anything you want to. You can always talk to someone, don’t ever ever feel that you’ll be stuck doing nothing for a living and feeling like crap because THAT’S NOT TRUE.

  596. I just started. I’m pretty sure I’ve picked the wrong course/uni, find lectures boring and have little interest in doing this shit for three fucking years. Uni sucks a giant dick.

  597. University: definitely not for everyone. Standards of living were terrible, but above all else I realised that what I want to do doesnt require me to get a physical degree to present to an employer. Sure, the stuff Id learn from teaching material would benefit me in various ways, but thats nothing I couldn’t get outside of uni in the form of books, online etc. (far quicker and much, much cheaper, whilst at the same time building up my real life 3 years earlier than if i’d completed the degree). Fact is, don’t need the degree, hate the lifestyle. Everything else uni could offer me isnt unique and I could get elsewhere *waves at Bristol in wing-mirror*

  598. It’s still freshers week at the University Of Surrey, so I guess I can’t really have a valid opinion yet since I haven’t experienced enough of it – however, I really don’t like it so far.

    The place just has a horrible feel to it; a cold, formal and intimidating atmosphere. I’ve read some more details about the work I’m going to have to do, and it sounds horrendous – just reading about it has really put me off.

    Fortunately I’m living at home, so I’m not completely isolated from all that I know and love but it does make it difficult to make new friends there, and all my old friends are away at their unis, so this could be a very lonely few years for me.

    I was very unsure about this, and was considering getting a job and starting my working life instead as recently as a few weeks ago, but my parents convinced/pressured me to go… I’m starting to wish I hadn’t gone along with it. What have I gotten myself into?

  599. who am i ? what am i doing here ? why am i even alive ? …………. uni is going to kill me

  600. I’m sitting in my dorm crying I hate it so much. Noisy all the time, I never have a moment to de stress. I just want to go home. Students are so inconsiderate. They have party’s at all hours and are so loud. And its 01:10 in the morning.

    I just feel on edge everyday and its still only the first week.

  601. I know exactly how you feel…crying, not able to have quiet time, always stress, roommates and the rest of the floor just being inconsiderate…

  602. I’ve got no hope of getting any sleep tonight, theres loads of drunks screaming and shouting outside, i can even hear them throwing up… Am I weird not to think thats a good time?! I know its saturday and if I was at home i would be out with my friends… its just here :S I’m definitely going home next weekend, wish I had done this weekend.

  603. damn i just wrote my whole university experience and then the comp wouldnt let me post. i guess it can be summed up as torture. I wouldn’t wish this experience on my worst enemies because it just opens your mind to how fucked up the social system is.

    I had a bad vibe right from the first day when i saw all the valium induced glass half full type on frosh week. I left after ten minutes the first day and never came back to frosh week. im three weeks in and so far ive had two mental breakdowns, one of which involved running around my deck sharpeing penchils with a machete to show the world that you dont need technology ( i had spent all day trying to send in an oline assignemt but it wouldnt work, as usual)

    Its my third week right now studying business and living at home with my parents. I feel like two seperat people, when im at and away from university. when im away im social, and have a postive outlook on my future. When im at university its a constant state of depression, and “isnt there anything better attitude”

    PLEASE IF YOUR IN HIGH SCHOOL HEED MY WARNING. please for the love of god just go to college or something, or find work. im dead serious. i wish i had found this forum last year when my teachers were all telling me how if i didnt want to live in a box i had to go to university. my frinds at college, smoke weed all day pass their releatively easy courses find work and move into a small but comfortalbe houses in the city, and love their life.

    I think im gonna just do my first year here so my parents dont kill me, and then over the summer find a job, and not register for unversity again, and then just go to college or something

  604. Hi guys,
    I’m doing computer science. Been at it for 3-4 weeks and I feel so let down. All the expectations of an amazing social life, friends etc and what? No one wants to know. I’ve never been amazing at socialising but people like me when they get to know me. But no one wants to get to know me, I talk to people, we sit down together at lectures and at the end they leave without a word. The courses are okay but … I expected so much more. I’m lonely without friends for the first time. I’m in love with my boyfriend of 2 years and everyone sez uni will fuck us up. I swear if it looks like it’s happening that way I will drop out without thinking twice. He is my life and my reason for getting up in the morning but now I only see him twice a week. I know there are worse situations to be in, but that doesn’t make me feel better. Does anyone here go to university of glasgow? maybe we can be friends lol. Somebody help and tell me what I can do if I decide to drop out – I want a good profession with happy friendly colleagues. I’m doing this for the money but if there is a job I will enjoy that is not so great paid I’d do it.

  605. I’m so glad I found this site- this is my second year at University and I canlt stand it- like many have said, I feel like I’ve been tricked or something- everything I was told about coming ehere seems to have been a lie. My marks are good, but I feel liek I’m learning absolutely nothing new and simply writing pointless essay after essay and not enjoying a second of it. I’ve met one or two decent people but haven’t established any kind of strong friendships, and spend so much time just wishing I could go back home and be ‘myself’ again- here I just feel invisible, bored and perpetually tired after sitting through hours of uninspiring lectures and then going back to an unpleasant room and a hall full of people I honestly want nothing to do with. The worst part is, mine is suppossed to be one of the better Universities, which is shocking because there’s really nothing very good about it- some of the lecturers are just plain awful, the assignments are pointless, the I.T systems are out of date and the accomodation is hideously overpriced and poor.I won’t name my intsitution, other than to say its a Scottish university in teh ‘Top 5′ but that doesn’t seem to matter, I’m sure the experience I’m describing, for many is a completely universal one.

  606. Made it through your first month of Comp. Sci., eh Donna? Have they taught you if-statements yet?

    My first software engineering course began by making sure that we all knew what a mouse and keyboard were, and that the monitor is not the computer. IF YOU DON’T KNOW THAT YET YOU SHOULDN’T BE A SOFTWARE FREAKIN’ ENGINEER… EVER!

    Whhhyyyyyy do I have to listen to these boring fucking lectures that cater to the slowest, dumbest individuals in the course, and then do uninspired, meaningless assignments? Why can’t I just take the final exam in the first week of class? Why do I have to take five consecutive classes spread out over 3-4 month of agony, instead of one class at a time in just a week or two?

    Most of all, why do I have to pay so damned much for a service that is clearly flawed and unsatisfying?

  607. “It’s nothing like highschool” I was told over and over. I’m now going to a University south of the city I live in where everyone is inbred and boring. The courses are vague and the entire affair is rather depressing. I’ve made lots of friends and such, but all the theory bullshit about nothing important is killing me bit by bit.

  608. university can be sucky sometimes, but people should realise something, you have an opportunity to get a degree, there are many people out there hoping to get one, i hate the fucking uni, my parents just left and i feel lonely like hell, i just made 1 friend, thats it, sitting on the fucking computer surfing the fucking nets

    but FUCK EVERYONE, i will get the degree for the EPIC LULZ.

  609. I hate university; I really, really do. It took away what I treasured the most – my ability to write, my creativity… not to mention my soul, my time, my energy, money, happiness, the most of self-esteem and identity I had (it was a lot), my motivation, the sleep, my health… and all that other crap soulless tools probably don’t need. It started about four weeks ago, since then I’m just getting worse. Can’t get myself to do anything; just sitting here fantasizing about getting blood on my hands and enjoying the screams…

    I visited a psychiatrist today and felt completely let down by her. She was too fake, I just couldn’t believe her when she said she wanted to help, even though I wanted to believe her because that was sort of my last hope… I guess your problems are just unimportant, childish drama as long as there are no dead bodes lying around. I was even too miserable to argue with her about that, just sat there crying and feeling like a complete idiot for thinking somebody could actually want to help me without being an ass and without mocking me for being miserable. The only things she gave me are her e-mail address and yet another fake smile to hate. :/

    Nobody to talk to, the students mostly talk about the shit we’re trying to learn there… and the only so-called friend I’ve made is trying to patronize me without really listening when I try to talk about what’s going on with me. I hate that. They look at me like I’m an alien if I say that I can’t stand the place, it probably confuses them that somebody is able to hate the crap. We are given a lot of pointless shit to do but no time to do it – I’m not learning anything.
    I think I’m done, yet the screams in my head won’t fade… now I need to drag my tired corpse under the shower and get some coffee, it’s gonna be another sleepless night. At least I can’t dream if I don’t sleep. I want it to end. Dropping out is not an option, this sick society has me where they want me right now – I’ll just hate myself for that decision as I don’t know where to go if I do drop out.

  610. Oh, sorry, I wanted to say “psychologists”, not psychiatrist. I’m just so very tired…

  611. Ok, so i’ve been extremely unhappy at university. Feel too miserable to eat, cry a lot of the time, tired constantly, haven’t met anyone i feel i can particularly bond with, stressed, starting to hate the whole experience.
    I’m seriously considering transferring to the university near home and living at home. These past few weeks have been the worst of my life so far.
    I’ll let you know what i decide. Thankfully my parents are behind me 100%. Don’t know whether i can say the same about my boyfriend.

  612. Wanted to be a doctor since I was very little. I get to university and it’s a big bore. I did a co-op placement in high school and had the time of my life. I go into a lecture and want to shoot myself. I can’t believe I’m paying 7 grand for a crowded library, boring profs, annoying people, unnecessary information and crowded classes that are late or too early. We are all so doomed when the baby boomers retire in masses because who the hell is going to want to go through this let alone afford it in the future.

  613. I had to do some work at a university in Scotland last year (there’s a test machine there my employer uses from time to time).

    The most defining experience there was when I asked for some help from a postgraduate student, who a) didn’t seem to speak English b) didn’t seem to have any work in him and c) despite being repeatedly asked, and despite having a PhD, couldn’t physically pass me a 14mm combination spanner.

    After storming out, he went and complained to the head of department about me. I then got a public lecture on my attitude, and was told I was on my own and couldn’t expect any help from the Department.

    I just hope the place closes down, and soon, because it’s just a colossal drain on the taxpayer. All I know is that if I’m looking for a potential employee, and someone applies with that place on their CV, it will get filed straight in the bloody bin.

  614. i hate my university soo much i dont knw ow to get over it. i am doing a masters programme and it is torture for me.i hate it ere..i have tried to like it ere but i just cant, its like a horror movie for me. one reason is because i wasnt supposed to her here at all at first

  615. A-i am feeling exactly the same…i would say transfer if you know its not right…no one should tell you what to do, so do whats best for you. Luckily your parents are behind you..my parents are so disappointed in me for even thinking of transferring. I hate my life so much right now…but I know that this feeling cant last..To everyone else-we dont all have to go to uni..i think experience counts for a lot more than a degree in something your not passionate about…go against the grain. Dont follow the crowd. Be brave and different!!! Let me know how you get on A. And i’ll let you know what I do.

  616. F, sorry to hear you’re in the same boat as me, it’s not an experience i would wish on anybody, particularly without the support of parents.
    I did it! I went to my course leader and told her it straight and everyone was really nice about it, they even apologised that i hadn’t enjoyed the experience. I packed up everything in my room and now i’m sat at home with it all behind me.
    I agonized over this decision for days, exhausting myself with worry so it’s not like i’ve taken it lightly, yet right now (for the moment anyway) i feel at ease. I’ve made my decision and i think it’s important to look to the future instead of going over this past month or so.
    I think i was pretending to be someone i’m not. It all comes so fast after high school and i thought “right, i’ll go to this big city and do english and i’ll love it all, i’ll make loads of friends and recreate myself as this fabulous person!”. When in reality, i was being thrown in a flat with four strangers, forced to find my way around a city four times the size of my home town, and ontop of that try and focus on reading books and getting into a course. It’s not who i am, i’m a homebody, i love my family and friends who i’ve gained over many many years of trust and getting to know each other. I love my life here and i’m not ready to give that up quite yet, and why should i have to?! At the end of the day, i’m still getting a degree but at the same time i’m happy and mentally healthy.
    I just have to face the people i said goodbye to and it might be hard trying to explain to them when they might be thinking i’m weak and failed to be independent by coming home. I’ve had soooo many people say to me “i think you should give it more time, i had such an amazing time at university, everybody finds it hard at first”. I’ll also miss my boyfriend more now i’m at home because i’m so used to jumping in the car and practically living over at his house, whereas now he’s in a different city at university. Yet i’m still going to see him the same amount as i would if i had stayed at the first university, so i’ll just need to keep myself busy and try to recreate myself a bit of a new life, whilst having some of the old comforts which i love so much :)
    Sorry for the essay here. F- listen to what your heart is telling you. I know it sounds cliche but believe me, i’m one of the biggest worriers and thinkers i often tend to put others opinions and do what might be viewed as the best thing to do first. In this situation though it’s YOUR life and YOUR happiness. No-one elses. There is nothing wrong with knowing yourself so well that you can say “this isn’t for me and that’s fine.” Your parents probably just want the best for you, and hopefully if you transferred they would realise that the decision you’ve made is the right one.

  617. Justletitburn...out

    At the end of first year we have to pick a major…by the end of my year they had cancelled the major I had gone there for. Now I’m stuck here doing the least sucky major I could choose from.

    2 semesters a year, 4 units a semester, 3 assignments a unit…and then exams as well. I can’t do any more assignments I’ve burnt out. How are we expected to remember any information for future careers, everything is just about what needs to be done for the current assignment and then forgotten.

    I end up doing my essays the morning of the day they’re due.I’ve lost any enthusiasm I had.

  618. What’s interesting, Burnout, is that the damn fool I had the shouting match with spoke so little English I can’t see him ever writing an essay or getting through a viva …… yet he’s got a PhD and a research fellowship.

    I know the payscales at this uni and RF salaries scales between 26k and 34k a year. That’s much more than any of us get paid.

    The whole system stinks.

  619. I have been at uni for 2 weeks now and absolutely hate it. My course said I would be qualified in different forensic jobs when in actual fact as soon as we arrived they did a presentation on all the jobs you weren’t qualified to do! I found out that the fact that they found everyone who has done the course a job afterwards is a lie as the course is only in its 3rd year and the people who left a similar one last year work for the co-op and various other shops full time. Its boring and pointless and I no longer know what to do with my life. I (thankfully) have flu so am missing this week and only live 45 mins away so am commuting but still have a room in halls that I hate. My parents say if its no good for me to leave but I feel like they are just saying that. They say leave and get a job but its like they are giving up on me. I am so stressed and sick of the arguing and feeling like everything is pointless. I always had my life planned out but now am stuck in this horrid situation. To make matters worse my best friend goes to the same uni and is in the room next door and expects me to love the course and spend all my time hanging around with her or waiting around for her to finish lectures. She won’t listen when I try and talk to her and thinks its pathetic I am commuting. So much for being my friend. Any suggestions would be fab.

  620. So I started Uni in September, and honestly? I’ve never felt so shit. I can’t keep up with my coursework, it’s driving me insane, and I loathe it. I used to enjoy my subjects at school, now they’re dominating my life. Hard to enjoy German and Classics when they’re taking a dump on your life and ruining everything you ever enjoyed. I wonder how much a mcdonalds manager makes…

  621. I, honest to god, hate university. I’m in my final year of – supposedly – the best business program/school in Canada and I just can’t wait to leave! Each year I was told it would get better, but in all honesty, it hasn’t – Every year has turned out to be the same complete and utter bullshit…

    > Dumbass peers,
    > Douchebag profs,
    > Useless textbooks (which never seem to stop increasing in price),
    > And an overall horrible curriculum where nothing is actually learned.

    I often considered dropping out in my previous years, but given society’s expectations nowadays it was never really a viable option. University-designated education is “required” for practically every job – even mundane ones.

    But the thing that gets me the most, particularly now being in my final year and seeking employment for after I graduate, is the fact that there is a general notion flowing around labor markets that “it’s not what you know, it’s who you know.” To me, this just seems totally wrong! Why go to university in the first place? Why toil with 4 years of physical, mental and emotional stress if in the end it’s not worth anything? Why does society place this enormous emphasis on attaining a university degree if it doesn’t actually help you attain future employment? More importantly, why do employers continue to require “university” and “good academic standings” if in the end they’re just going to select any dumbass who knows someone within their organization? It all just seems illogical.

    (Side Note: Big ups to the person who started this site – nice to know there are others out there who feel the same way + an area to vent!)

  622. “If you’re going through hell, keep going.”, I keep saying to myself, while I keep falling deeper into this pit of silent hatred. For I have no tears left to despair and protest, for my voice got silenced by self-destruction and the dictator ego that keeps whispering I shall continue. Where am I actually going? And why? It feels like rotting on the inside, everything is growing cold. It feels like something is dying. Is this worth what I’m going to achieve if I decide to stay? Should I leave? I don’t know. The cold is making me numb. Is this really what I will become: a mindless zombie, simply consuming everything – be it information or simply complete bullshit – they throw at me? I want my soul back. Now.
    At least I’m not taking any drugs yet, although the psychologist suggested that I should take something to calm me down. “A pill that makes you numb, a pill that makes you dumb… a pill that makes you – anybody else…” It’s always the individual’s fault when they’re angry about the system, am I right? The individual should adapt itself with mind-altering shit, the individual should accept everything if it (not he or she, for we are not people, but objects, simple slaves) wants to achieve something in this sick fuck society. For the system is oh so perfect and we should respect it. I hate it. Do I really have to kill myself, in one way or another, to get this done? I refuse to please society; I wanted this for myself, to help me live my dreams. Instead, they are being crushed. It feels like choking on what I cannot be.
    The fact that I didn’t have time to learn for my tests and can’t concentrate is not helping. The first test is tomorrow. It’s been five weeks, and already I can say almost for sure that I’m going to fail the year. They can’t convince me that I’m dumb, I know that I’m not. Plus, I love what I’m learning… but the whole university stuff makes me wanna bathe in gore with a big grin on my bloody face. The depression is nearly gone, now rage and anger reign over me. Insanity will claim my mind, sooner or later; I can feel its preparations. I hear its march. I just hope that, when that moment comes, when it’s too late for me, I won’t be standing on the edge, ready to jump. Until then, I guess I have to… keep going and growing colder and colder.

  623. I don’t yet know if I hate uni, but I feel for you all. If any of you are in London perhaps we could make our own anti-uni society where we don’t have to get pissed off our heads to have fun, where we can organise protests against the current system, and where everyone is welcomed and no one is excluded for the usual trivial reasons. I’ll check back here to see if anyone’s interested!

  624. University has killed my passion. I’m doing a criminology degree. When I started my course I was so interested in all the injustice in the world. I wanted to learn about it and help change it. Now all I learn is whatever I need to know to get a reasonable mark in the exams. And then forget it after. I don’t care about the world anymore.

  625. Maslow I am doing Criminology too and hate it!!! I had all good ideas about what jobs I want to do at the end of it but I am not sure I even want to study this any more let alone sppend the rest of my life doing it for a career!

  626. I’m tired… i dont want to go back. The first year I went.. it scared me so much i left.. Now everyone is on my back. I hate it.. and im scared.. but everyone is talking shit about me :(

  627. Flower, I feel exactly the same! I have to start applying for jobs by the middle of next year and I have no idea what to go for. I wish i would just know which job is for me.

  628. Good luck at least you have stuck it out! I am 3 weeks in and am gonna quit next week. It was in the news that a criminology degree is less likely to get you a job in media studies! Worrying!

  629. Sorry I meant you are more likely to get a job with a degree in media studies then criminology lol

  630. I must admit, although nobody here seems to directly communicate with me, returning to this website is somewhat calming. I don’t really want to talk to other people about this anyway, I just need a place to put my mind before it engulfs itself into a bloody mess. Seeing how the experiences of other people make us feel less alone, I decided to post again. Because of that, and because I think I’ve finally got something to say which isn’t filled with so much anger and pain. So… yes, my uni couldn’t suck more. After yet another in the long row of sleepless nights, spent with my head over some books and only coffee keeping my eyes from closing, this morning I (probably) failed at writing a test (the results weren’t published yet, but I did pretty miserably). They expect you to be an expert in something they didn’t leave you time for to explore, understand and go through carefully. Still, I can’t help but feel relieved, for I have come to very enlightening realizations about what is important for me right now.
    I have to say something about the uni itself – skip this if you don’t care about the more specific problems with the uni’s system; it really is long and boring, although it doesn’t nearly cover all the bad things. With the Bologna process started (I hope I spelled it right, English is my second foreign language, so I apologize for all my errors) and not being adapted at this uni as it should have been at all, but instead of making the students into “half-finished products”, letting only a small percentage of them continue after they get their Bachelor degree (which can’t get you a job you’d deserve with this kind of torture behind you, because you probably don’t posses enough knowledge for it), what you get in the end just isn’t worth all the suffering. I mean, you are about 20 years old when you get here (I’m 18 right now) and should give up everything you like to dedicate all your “free time” and ambition (there is no actual free time with this) to your field of work. Yes, ALL your time. Plus, we have tests every 4-5 weeks, in which we have to participate and even reach a certain score (number of points) at these tests, different practices, homework etc. in order to not repeat the whole year. All in all, it’s more than a shitload of work to get done in too little time. If we fail at a single subject in one semester, we have to repeat both semesters from that year. That takes away way too much time and no, it doesn’t really make sense. Plus, if we want to go past the Bachelor degree, we have to take a big ass test (15 subjects, if I remember correctly… oh, and of course if they haven’t changed that part… AGAIN!) and then we get ranked into a list; we get points for how short it took us to get through the 3 years (which is nearly impossible to do in 3 years because of the aforementioned you-fail-a-single-subject->you-unnecessarily-repeat-the-whole-year politics), and for our grades (which is also ridiculous because you get the grades based on some Gauss’s system; but I’m too tired to discuss this abomination right now). So only those highest on the list get to work their asses off to get a higher degree and thus most probably a better job.
    They are very strict with all those rules; they want the students to compete with each other to motivate them into being better. Instead, most of them end up repeating some years 1-2 times, walking around like zombies, arguing about who’s better (elitist-ic bullshit, just makes them into concurrence for each other instead into friends and colleagues), losing their youth to the system and their nerves to unnecessary stress because they hope for a good job in the future. The uni actually succeeds in making them proud to be part of its tyranny over themselves, because all they’re going through makes them think they’re better than other people generally because of this. That’s well known to, for example, other students who have contact with them (including me). I am, of course, talking about the general situation, not every single individual.
    With all that happening, I have decided that this simply isn’t how I’d like to live my life. I don’t care how hard some people think life is supposed to be for me if I can make it better for myself. Sounds selfish? Think about it. Your life is what is truly yours – nobody else’s. You should decide what to do with it, you should decide how you want to live it. And with my principles set as they are right now and no wish to change into what I don’t wish to be, I’ve decided to switch to a similar college next year. I wished I could do it earlier, but since my parents paid for me this year on the university, I feel it’s fair from me to try and do my best here this one year; then I can go somewhere else without having to say I gave up. But my best certainly isn’t me killing myself over everything I need to do, being nervous all the time and burning through my nerves at such a young age. So, yeah, I will basically waste a year of my life here without enjoying it because I have no other choice, but I must admit I actually regret nothing. The institute of technology (or polytechnic? I don’t really know all these terms… as I said, English is my 2nd foreign language) I wanna switch to isn’t as organized as this uni, nor is it as famous or elitist. It’s even, what most people say, harder to get a job with it. But those things certainly never meant much to me. It was many other people who thought I should crave for the highest education possible (later the highest position possible at work) because they saw I had most predispositions for it. Well, they were utterly wrong. Those things never mattered to me. I am an artist at heart. I wish to have a little time to express myself, for without being able to write, I am unable to function. It is simply what I need and what I don’t want to lose. Besides, this institute has many courses which its students can go to to get acknowledged certificates for different programming (I’ll do some computer science or whatsoever on my main course, so this programming will sure come in handy). Besides, nobody will just jump at you to offer you a job when you’re done with education. You have to prove yourself. The smartest employers will test your knowledge and skills, not the paper(s) you show them.

  631. first year of uni, cannot stand it for the life of me, ok i understood i had to make new friends but my fucking class have basically came from the same school so they already know each other.
    i have a part time job earning £7.50 an hour and to be honest i prefer that..
    Can u make it through an art degree turning up twice a week? lol

  632. Im so depressed. It’s my second year of uni, and i’m studying business. i’ve never been so unhappy, ugh the professors suck and i can’t be bothered to study anymore. what’s the point? i hate my major, the students in uni are stuck up rich idiots who look down their noses at you. i can’t wait for this semester to finish, i wanna go on damn holiday and get well away from everything. i’m even having nightmares about assignments and projects im supposed to do. i’ve been paired up with a twat to do a project, i dont no the twat and i dont want to. i’ve only made one close-ish friend and she isnt even in any of my classes. im alone with a bunch of twats and thats what my life has come to. im sooo stressed and no one understands they just say i had it worse than u. life’s a bitch, end of story.

  633. I’m 2 months into my first year at university and I can’t fucking stand it. It’s no worse than high school but takes all my money so really it is. The people are terrible with their parent’s SUVs and macbooks. Meanwhile my running shoes are developing holes and have to be lucky to get on a library computer. That isn’t my problem though. I can’t endure the torture that is class and the assignments i receive there. It’s so fucking pointless. It’s the illusion of learning. It’s a scam for your money. But yet it’s necessary and will continue to be. I don’t understand why every course on my schedule requires an essay every month. Just to keep us busy? yes. some mofos actually think the busier they are more they learn. but not me…

  634. it is 2nd yr here… dull. boring. well, i’m part-time though. lost my job, trying to find another one right now(( so expensive!!!!! mamma mia i’m freaking out!!!! thanks i didn’t take loan or anything (that’d be awful! just imagine: u’ve finished uni and now u have to pay for ur “education”). the thing that makes me nuts it’s that actually u can get that “desirable” BA in college as well(i’m in canada). i wasn’t really considering college in high school, parents wanted me in uni, teachers wanted me in uni. and somehow college thing was viewed as smth “not serious” and “for stupid ppl”. man, i feel myself so down.. i wish i went to college (not that expensive, more time for work, and most importantly more practical!). i wish i knew more about college BA.. anyways wt’s done that’s done. just don’t know what to do now. i can feel that slowly i’m becoming less energized, less excited about life, less patient and kind. i have about 3 more yrs to go… and i don’t know whether to stick to uni or drop out and start working full-time. i think i should understand what i want to do in life first. and only then go to uni or college. or should i go to school 1st and then start thinking about life. err just don’t know what to do. all my thinking revolves around “university is the most important thing!” fk so tired of everything already!!

  635. 1st year at University, near 1 month so far and I’m fed up and unhappy! I’m deaf and hard to make friend and difficult to do work! I got some new friends that is good part. But I’m really fed up and have not done some courseworks. One coursework – “7 deadly sins” deadline on this Friday and I haven’t start the coursework yet cos I’m too unhappy and don’t feel like to work hard! Also some time University waste my time! I don’t know what should I do? :(
    And some projects are same to college from last year! College and University are SAME but only different in University are more works and less help! Im fucked up now!

  636. I am in my fourth year at Leicester doing an ancient history and history degree, I am a mature student who a few years ago was a junky living on the streets. I fought so hard toget to university, just for a load of stuck up middle class brats make me feel insecure, and not good enough. And I tell you the mature students are just as bad as them. No one talks to me, just about me. Every time I am in the library this little bastard from my coarse will make some put down remark or give me evil stares. I t makes me feel so paranoid. I sometimes feel like going back to the street lad, and as they say going WMD ON HIS ARSE. Every day I feel more worthless, just sitting in the corner, trying not just to either go out and score a fuckin’ ten bag just to make me feel better, or to take a knife to my wrists, and end it all. I have never done anything to them and still I am looked down upon. Oh by way I have hid my past! If they knew it would be only another stick they would use to knock me down.

  637. Yet another test tomorrow. Yet another depressing day. More and more things needed to get done, less and less ambitions to even try. I don’t even want to think about that my life is going to look like this for a whole year (then I’m switching). I know, some of you are going to have to live a similar torture for more than one year (I feel with you, it’s sad I don’t know how to offer help or advice when I’m miserable myself), but still, I feel like running away or committing suicide. Why? Because I hate all this without a passion – if I hated it with passion, I would rebel against it with success, not failure and self-hatred; it makes me hate myself and feel ashamed, wasted and ready for the grave. I want to rest. Nobody is taking me seriously when I talk about being miserable, so I decided to hide everything too negative, most probably until I just lose it. I wonder what the world is going to look like if I go crazy, I hope it won’t be worse than the current situation.
    Human beings are starting to seriously freak me out, too. When I’m in a crowd, I just start thinking something like “humans… they’re fucking everywhere… make them go away!”, or want to scream out loud how much their presence alone disgusts me. I’ve almost started running when I heard some people from my university talk about some test, I just wanted to flee. Or if somebody accidentally touches me in a crowd, I almost jump or freak out on the inside. I’ve been a misanthrope for the last few years, but it was never this intense and strong.
    Maybe I’ll see the psychologist tomorrow… or some other day, I don’t care; she wanted to see me again. Although, I doubt I’ll be telling her any of this. I can’t trust her, don’t want to be mocked by her fake smile again. Going to visit her was a giant mistake in the first place. Now I have to fake that I’m better just to shake her off, because I see where this is going and I’m not willing to go for it. No, I’m not desperate enough to accept pathetic attempts at mind-control and anti-depressives as help. I’d rather have madness take me.
    If my Internet connection was working, I’d be looking for useful information about switching colleges (maybe I can switch after this one semester? I probably won’t survive the second if I have to stay here!), but no, it died. Again. Or I’d be looking for information about the test I have tomorrow. Anything. Instead, I’m sitting here, writing yet another chaotic rant and trying not to think about hurting myself. Self-mutilation was never an option for me, it’s just not what I do. But now I feel like… hurting someone, most probably myself. I want to see blood. A few weeks ago, I accidentally cut myself while shaving my legs under the shower and noticed all the blood on my heel when I was done. The next 15 minutes I spent silently laughing at it and admiring its pretty flow before I thought about stopping the bleeding and returning to my room. I was feeling happy about it, couldn’t help myself with the euphoria. Since then, I’m always very, very cautious ’cause I can’t allow it to happen again. What if I decide to make myself bleed some more? No, I can’t allow that.
    Seeing that the cursed Internet connection is working again, I have to go now. Just hope nobody I know will ever see this, I won’t be able to stand their reactions. I bet they’ll be more upset about me not trusting them enough with my problems than about how I feel while writing this. At least I’ll have some irony right in front of me to laugh at. Heh, maybe I’m losing it already. But it makes no difference. It makes no difference…
    Good luck, everyone… don’t kill yourselves, there are other options.

  638. I hate this bullshit too! last year I did engineering, and very bad at that. Now I’m trying to switch into health sciences and everyones telling me to do something else and these FUCKING SECRETARIES who are worth fucking shit are ruining my life. I dont even know why i bother anymore I should just drop out and become a prostitute. I would have more self respect at that then swallowing my pride and trying to get these fuckers to help me out. FUCKERS!

  639. I hate Uni! I have had a few years out trying my luck in the real world, where unfortunatley a piece of paper means everything. So i come to Uni knowing that things wont be easy, get a job pass my first year and still get generally looked down on by everyone! The people on my course have loads of money and no class! They are rude, arrogant and unfriendly to anyone slightly different from them. I hate this!!

  640. this is balls.
    everyone is either dull or tories or stupid.
    so hating it here. my friends back home are all amazing and noone here is ever going to match up to them. also, they treat you like schoolchildren. seriously this makes no sense.
    i’m more intelligent than this place and i need to quit before i lose all faith in humanity.
    emocomments ftw.
    also i hate the americans in my flat (bar two) they’re so immature and totally unlike the americans i know from before.

  641. I’m so happy I’ve got like minded people here..Unis such a waste but it’s gotta be done..in my 3rd year of a 4 year course and I feel like it’s never gonna end so many fucking assignments and working my ass off 4 wot!!!ARGH!!..For the first time in my life I’ve never met such a bunch of idiots as I have at my uni..honestly, like where are the sane ones gone?!

  642. University…… What a drain on my life. Motivation levels have never been so low. Every day i am thinking suicide might be my answer. The holy grail of a good University education may include a prestigious Institution, high employability chances. In college i was popular, i had loads of passionate friends, i always laughed, now i cannot even maintain a conversation…. without living in the past… I have made up my mind, I am quitting, using my saved funds with the rest of my grant and booking a flight to Australia… clear my head with the sun sea and sand… anyone with me?

  643. fakeplastictree

    i go to mac, i love my classes, but i dont feel connected to this school at all. i hate it, and i feel numb and shitty and like i want to cry all the time when i’m here, and i feel like im trapped for the next however many years, and ill never be able to pay off my school debts. i feel like im in a shitty teen movie where they all go to university and talk about stupid idiot things and im just out of the loop. i miss college.

  644. i’m studying art foundation at uwic, and i absolutely hate it.
    i have problems with depression which i overcame this year, but i can feel it coming back.
    everybody is an arrogant dickwad. all the girls have long blonde hair, scarves and wear topshop.
    the lecturers drone.
    it’s so bloody uninspiring and restrictive, i look forward to going to my part time job which i love.
    i no longer have a passion for art. just a hatred for the art world now i’ve seen what it’s like.

  645. I can’t do any more assignments, it’s not physically possible. I have just one more to do this year (not including exams) but I just can’t do it. My body seriously won’t move to pick up a book or pen.
    Three more weeks till holidays, just three weeks…

  646. FUCK UNIvERSITY. LOl on this thread going since 2004. I moved away from home to meet new people after taking a few years off. Everyone is reminding me of how much i didn’t enjoy high school. I’m seriously considering just leaving after this semester is over, and moving to revelstoke or another mountain in BC. Give me a reason I shouldn’t.

  647. hello im new at university, about two months in and i sure do hate it! All i ever hear is party party party and it gets old real quick, i enjoyed doing random things with my friends we didnt stick to this get smashed routine every weekend routine. Now the work here ahhh i hate the work! so much and im NOT INTERESTED! its such a waste of time i want to be a director and writer i dont care about making a masterpiece like ET i just want to express myself in something i can be proud of and not rotten tomatoes.com i feel like this place is a cage that holds me back! university does not represent intellect or success but rather obediance and plaguing your minds. im fed up with parties and with all the work, wheres the time where i get to be me?

  648. sorry i just wanted to post again im sorry its just i wanted to say im happy to meet people who feel the same way about uni its really refreshing to see these comments everyone i try to reason with here just tries to convince me im foolish and that university is THE ONLY WAY to make it in the world. I want to grow and learn by doing, by simply existing in the world and meeting new people, these lectures and dry black and white classes just depress me to the max! I want to leave but im surrounded by expectations and pressures of my family and society itself, why do i live to please all these people i just want to do what makes me happy. im an artist at heart and i like to create and day dream all the time and ever since i got here my mind has become slightly numbed…as if im losing the will to dream like before, this place just doesnt seem right to me.

  649. bdawgATCurtinMechEng

    My final year thesis is due tomorrow, and it is about 70% finished. I am stuffed. I hate university, especially fourth year, it has been a complete waste of a year of my life. There is nothing that I know now that I didn’t know at the start of the year, except that thesii (I assume that’s the plural) are stupid, and lecturers are all jerks. No matter whether I fail or not, there is no way in hell I am every coming back to this place. Wish me luck.

  650. Nearly finishing my first year. Gosh it’s so damn boring. They talk nonstop for 2 hours a week in the lectures and then at the end of the 15 week semester they expect us to know everything they said and they cram it in a big test.

  651. Has this university crap made me addicted to my own misery? I just can’t seem to stop going to those damn lectures, although I already know that I’m switching next year and shouldn’t be wasting my time on letting them make me depressive and tired. Seriously, I just sit there trying to concentrate, and end up wanting to either hang myself or to run away, grab a book and start learning all that for real (they don’t teach you anything)! But when they’re over, I’m too tired to do any of this. If I don’t go there, the guilt is just too much; it makes me feel like a bad person while turning me into a bitter, lonely misanthrope who’ll scare everybody away without even trying. Not that I care about the last part; humans make me angry and tired most of the time anyways. Especially when they turn into all-knowing, superior beings when giving me some lame advice that nearly makes me feel like an idiot and lets me see how little they know. I wished I could be as well as I pretended to be in front of the psychologist. Now I’m worried that I’ve shaken off the only person actually willing to help me. She said I could come again if I need something, because we parted in a friendly atmosphere, but I won’t.
    Maybe I’ll feel less useless when I finally get a lousy student’s job, and quit talking to people about any issues. They don’t listen, don’t care, just want to switch the subject to themselves and how great and special they are. Plus, nearly nobody believes me how miserable I’m doing. They think I’m just a pessimist and shake me off, because they’re used to my good grades from high school. I have to deal with extreme anger whenever I’m dealing with their ignorance and my own helplessness.
    I’m even feeling miserable for doing things that usually make me happy. If it wasn’t

  652. * If it wasn’t for my irrational (?) fear of death, I fear I’d be gone already.
    Why can’t I stop torturing myself for making the mistake of coming here? Am I not “allowed” to be imperfect? Why can’t I just leave? I know I won’t be on this uni next year… why can’t I just stop wasting my time on it? There are great things to be done, I want to “grow as a person”, do something responsible or irresponsible if I wish to… not just keep rotting away. Why can’t I just yell at everyone and tell them to shut their fucking mouths and leave me be when they start trampling on my self-confidence? Why do I have to silence myself? Why can’t I do something productive, even when I’ve got the plans and the time? Why am I still wasting it on the uni crap? Why… I ask myself often why I just won’t end it. It’s killing me anyways.

  653. I’m currently attending McGill University and i hate it. i hate it more than life. i don’t even know what to do with myself half the time. i can’t concentrate because i’m always thinking about how shitty this school is. For god’s sake it’s rank 1 for rare class discussions and 20 for least accessible teachers. And on the list of best and worst things for this university, the best includes irrelevant stuff like the name of a building, the fact that there are many bars. among the worst are factors that do matter such as profs, dorms, food, people etc… I really do hate this shit ass mother fucking place. the people….oh god all they think about is getting drunk. do they have nothing better to do?! can’t they just enjoy a friday where they don’t get shit faced?! can’t they just simply watch a movie and then after NOT GET DRUNK. these people are unbearable. and their shit ass techno music. i simply don’t get it, were they born without ears?! how can they listen to that crap. and on top of that they feel the need to blast it while others are studying, not giving a care in the world. just everything about this university. the city even. i wish they just spoke fucking english. how the hell am i supposed to know how to read directions in french?!?! I’m truly unhappy here and they say you can find some people who share the same opinion as you. but WHERE ARE THEY?!?! HOW CAN I FIND THEM?!!? god have mercy on my soul, I HATE MCGILL UNIVERSITY.

  654. Silencer, I think you should have a good, long, eanrest talk with someone close to you, anyone….I know the feelings taht you’re experiencing, and its no fun but talking to poeoplem about it- people who really care about you, will make you feel a whole lot better than just venting here. I get it, Uni is horrible, but you have to find the strength wihtin yourself to realsie it for what it is, accept this and keep on going. You can e-mail me if you really need to talk xxxxxxx

  655. Ihateuniwaytoomuch

    OMG! I hate uni so much.

    I started off doing primary teaching and arts… and i wanted to jump off a cliff. I started developing intense medical symptoms from stress.

    I dropped out last sememster and now I am doing counselling.

    I love the degree… but, HATE HATE the universtity system.

    I am so over essays.

    I haven’t been out in almost 2 months.

    It is my birthday next weekend and I am not allowed to celebrate as I have 2 essays fucking due.

    IT’S A FUCKING JOKE.

    I AM SO ANNOYED.

  656. Im so fucking thankful right now that there are people out there I can relate to – meaning you people.Fuck university, and all its pretentious faggots and bitches. And to my self loving lecturer jason hay; fuck you, your a shitty mathematician, stop trying to act like a teen you fucking old man. Glad I came across this page you are all my comrades. I am a part time bouncer at a shit casino and am considering doing this full time over this fucking pathetic excuse of an institution(uni). I have actually gotten dumber since I started. Is gotten even a word? Im not sure.

  657. My brain’s fried

  658. hey,
    i posted a while back – its 3 weeks later and I want to let u guys know that you should hold on. I made a friend (: okay, I dnt like her that much, bt i know she wants to be my friend, and jst knowing that I have someone to talk to if i need to has made my life so much better. There are a couple of thousand people in uni, they can’t ALL be assholes. Think about it. Also, i got a tutor, and im slowly catching up on my work. i can almost imagine not failing this course. almost. but I feel much better. Give it 6 more weeks everyone, before you make a rash decision. Remember why you signed up in the first place. Try to keep happy, wallowing in self pity like i did gets you NOWHERE! I know its hard not to sometimes, but have a good think about what it actually gains you. Write a list of all the benefits of finishing uni, then a list of all the good things in your life. I know from experience that this really works. if you have problems, write down how to go about beating them. Trust me everyone, the best thing you can do about this situation is to force yourself to be happy, not give a shit about anyone else and only think positive. You’re in hell – so get on with it!

    Good luck x

  659. @ Mirriam: I think your time and energy would be wiser spent on somebody who won’t shake off all help attempts. I’m better now, I had a serious talk with some people – told them about the problem, but not how I feel. It’s better that way. Besides, you could be one of them, and I’m sorry but I can’t take the risk of letting any of them know… I just don’t trust people, especially not on the Internet. But a sincere “thank you very much” now goes your way for the offer. :) Cheers.

  660. Sometimes it takes bigger guts to win a battle against your own ego, society’s expectations and the sweet drug of being praised by other people for doing exactly what they want you to, than to stay in hell and march right through. Guess what, you are most likely a bigger demon to yourself than any outer influence. It’s how you deal with the outer manipulators; if you embrace them, you might be an even bigger demon to yourself. Why not change your life instead of forcing yourself into being a happy part of the tortured crowd? Once in a huge debt, on drugs to keep you functional (not sane, just functional), with this paper in your hands, poorly low self-esteem, enough desperate to take any job offered to pay back the debt… is the slavery really worth it? This is probably one of the worse cases; how likely is it that it’s gonna be you? Sure, I’m not and I’ll probably never be the right person to tell anybody this stuff because I have issues which show that my way ain’t the greatest, but I still feel like at least I won’t lose myself to something I despise. Getting help is good, maybe you can make it through university without losing your mind and all that you like (that’s what I want at this other college, although I’ll sure be working my ass off). Maybe you can’t. If so, it doesn’t make you any less of a person, it doesn’t mean you aren’t capable of anything, it doesn’t mean you aren’t smart. It only proves that uni isn’t for you. That’s not always a bad thing. There are other, more human ways to educate yourself and get a good job. You can ask yourself about what you want with your life, set priorities with things that make your life fulfilled, write “for”s and “against”s about the situation you’re currently in, get informed about all the other options open to you and about the consequences to every one of them, etc. You can think about all this. Do it, then decide what you’re gonna do – you’re a grown up now, it’s your responsibility. Don’t let me, nor anybody, tell you what to do and stop you from living your dreams. It’s your life.

  661. Well, that’s it – I’ve had enough. I didn’t enjoy uni from day one, but I decided to give it a chance and stick with it for a month or so, but it’s clear to me now that it’s just not for me.

    I’ve had trouble making friends as, although everyone is really nice, I don’t seem to have a lot in common with them and often feel very out-of-place.

    However, my main issue is with the course. It’s not at all like I thought it would be – instead of fun and interesting it’s boring and tedious; much more academic and intellectual as opposed to practical and creative.

    That said, I can’t blame the course entirely – I have to take some responsibility myself. I have no motivation to do any work, and I feel completely apathetic about the whole thing – I just don’t care.

    What is a degree, anyway? A piece of paper? All it shows is that you’re good at writing essays and sitting exams, neither of which will be particularly useful in a work environment. I just don’t see the point in spending three years doing something I hate and getting into thousands of pounds of debt for it.

    So yeah, I’m out.

  662. I have read most comments here and agree that UNI life does suck, I am a 1st year and I absouletly hate going to my classes. I am doing alright but in one of my classes I haven’t handed in almost any of my assignments and I even recieved a e-mail from my professor for it. I just want to know when will I ever use half this garbage in my life?? I mean who cares what some guy did back in the 1800′s (sure it’s intresting but what’s it’s importance to me?) Also I do enjoy it to a certain point, I mean I love having all my friends and partying with them but I can’t focus in my classes and I always leave everything to the last minute. I also think of it like this: I know so many people who have gone to UNI and they work at the same place I do, so how is it that they say you will get a better job by going to UNI if these people are working at the same place that a 18 year old works at?? I feel like dropping out someitmes but I know that my dad woulf never look at me or talk to me again, even though he never went to UNI he belives that it makes a person out of you. Originally I wanted to go to college but he said if I did that he wouldn’t look or talk to me again. Now that I am at UNI he is so proud but what he doesn’t kno is how much I hate it and want to drop out.

  663. i hate uni, i hate my country really i do… i wish i was in u.s

  664. I fucking hate uni too. Im 25 and in my final year studying law and too be honest I fucking hate it. I hate the lecturers, I hate the fact that that most of the time whether you pass or fail is determined by your final exams! Its all unpractical regurgitation 90% of which we will forget and not use! And the lecturers, superiority complex’s much? For fuck sake, your a lecturer not God, get the fuck over yourself! And the people, youd think law = high standards, morally correct people – haha! I havent met a bunch of more boring and inadequete and just plain dodgy bunch of rejects in my life. Please note that I am referring to the majority – of course there are some really nice people and some good lecturere but they are 1 in a million – literally and so many are focused on getting A’s like that is all there is too life! I manage B and B+ and the occasional A, but shit Im happy with B’s, people are always like “oh thats ok” like a b’s bad!!! Sick of uni and sick of uni life – hate being poor, hate the binge drinkers, hate the lecturers, hate how it doesnt prepare you practically for life! I gotta finish it though, im so close…2 papers and I have my degree – still dont know if it was worth it though.
    cheers people, needed to vent andput my thoughts forward.

  665. I am going through a huge amount of doubt about University after receiving a 24% on my midterm in Art History.
    I can’t sleep, I feel nauseous and I personally hate everything I am forced to read and write.
    I am smart, graduated top 5% of my year, and I am in my third year at my school, receiving nothing below 70% in all of my time here, but it all seems so pointless. It makes me sick to think that my parents are paying for Proffesors who are working solely to provide money to fund their exterior projects, and brag about themselves to a class full of students who are over-eager, preppy, and full of themselves.
    I don’t fit it.
    I’m good at school, but I hate it.
    I want to drop out, move to be with my boyfriend, get a real job already, and live my life…
    University hasn’t offered me friendships (maybe one or 2), it hasn’t made me appreciate that academics, but it has made me realize that everyone who is here, besides people studying medicine, are doing this because they have to, because they will get a job, and because their parents want them too.

    I have a life outside of school, and I don’t want to focus or spend anymore time on stuff I can’t stand.

  666. And I was number 666 —- Eerie

  667. I hate university.
    I hate the lecturers.
    I hate my personal advisor.
    I hate the fact that everyone is so anti-social, unless alcohol is involved.
    I hate the shitty accomodation.
    I hate having a shower with retards.
    I hate racist housemates.
    I hate that at university I have seen the most amount of money that I have ever seen in my life, leave my bank account and fall into the hands of the university.
    I hate lecturers who don’t speak loudly.
    I hate library fines.
    I hate the lack of diversity.
    I hate my bedroom and the cold tap water.
    I hate that I have developed plaque on my teeth because the water is too cold to brush my teeth.
    I hate people who drink my milk.
    I hate that I achieved excellent grades all throughout my life, then came to university and hated it, despite the fact that I worked all my life to get to that point.
    I hate the fact that I am 19 and beautiful and wasting away in this place.
    I hate studying law.
    I hate being asked ‘deep philosophical’ questions that I have already answered at age 16.
    I hate the fact that I am broke and had to steal money from my beautiful mother to pay for things at university.
    I hate the fact that if I get a job, I will probably like the part-time job more than university and fail and quit university.
    I hate the fact that all my friends love their universities.
    I hate the fact that I have to pay for everything, such as printing credits, photocopying etc.
    I hate the fact that I can’t draw here because there are no life drawing classes.

    I hate the University of York, UK. Particularly the Law department.

  668. The number one thing I hate is the fucking people u meet. im doing maths, i dont mind it coz i dont get much coursework, but there are times when i wanna wanna piss on the lecturers coz they give so much of it. i had to do 6 pieces of coursework all due in next week. i went up to one lecturer for some hints and he said i dont like students coming up to me. i wanted to rip his geeky oily stupid hairstyle off his fucking unhelpful arrogant head. and one mother fucker in my second year told me that the lecterer said we didnt need to know a certain section for the exam. i thought hes was a good friend But SURPRISE that whole section was tested and i usually average 75% and i got 50% just because “my so called stupid cut throat basterd of a friend” lied. How do i know? he got 74% and it was supposed to be the easiest of the 12 modules i do. this is only one of the dumbest mother fuckers iv met. There are so many like these stupid pieces of shits walking around.
    People that often enjoy uni are the ones that have fixed routine what they do is drink alcohol as soon as they become sober and they enjoy uni coz they cant fuckin REMEMBER what happened!!!!!!!!!

  669. I’m studying biomedical science, and I am averaging over 70% for all my coursework which includes lab reports and essays… I get loads of them throughout the year and when it comes to the exams we get 20 odd pieces of coursework deadlines all set and expected to be handed in one month…. da deadlines are right up to date of the first exam and after we are give 1 day between all my exams…. wat da fuck???…. are dese fuckin lecturers stupid or retarted….. Probably fuckin both!! So surprise surprise I get 40 to 50% in my exams which I had 1 day 2 revise for!!!!! We get set 150 pages of information…. not just standard info like a BA in History or sum shit like dat… but MEDICAL PHYSIOLOGY, BIOCHEMISTRY AND PATHOBIOLOGY ETCC… HARD SHIT…. n get swamped with coursework right up to my fuckin exams… which I work my ass off for… bt my exams brings my average down to a high 2.2…. Which is looked down upon FUCKING IDIOTS DOING most of which are doing easy ass ARTS degrees who thing getting a 2.2 is easy… FUCK U LOT!!!! My fuckin third is higher dan most of your fuckin 1st class degrees!!! N dats a FACT!!!!!
    Not only dat I got “Mates” who want to help people and make da world a better place by applying for postgraduate Medicine and become doctors. shut da fuck up!!! You guys are doing it for da fuckin money!!!!! Dey don’t help you wid work….hide fuckin textbooks in da library so u cnt get a textbook LIKE FUCKIN LOSERS, lie to yr face everyday, I help dem out but wen it comes to helping me out dey chat fuckin shit like “go n read dis or dat up”…..FUCKIN HYPOCRITES!!!! And these people want 2 be da doctors of 2marow!!!! Fuckin dicks!!!!

  670. I hate university so much!
    I hate my course, it is making me so depressed, i keep telling everyone i dont want to be there but all they say is..
    You cant give up now.
    WHY NOT!?
    I hate it, im angry, stressed, depressed and getting into debt not to mention i feel like a completly different person because of all this, everytime i think of the place i want to cry!
    But I dont no what else i can do? i dont want to have no future and no money for the rest of my life!!

  671. uni sucks!
    where do i start with all the crap that comes with it.
    firstly the course, im doing law and they give u so much reading that you don’t have time to do anything else LITERALLY!
    The people are TOTAL TWATS…everyone on the course are so full of themselves thinking their gonna become big shot barristers even though their getting 3rds! thick retards, keep dreaming!
    now on to even more retards-the people who come to lectures so that they can send txt messages the whole time or chat on the phone so you can’t hear a word of what’s being said.
    On top of that u can’t hear because the socially disfunctional lecturer at the front whispers the lectures! And they have there heads so far stuck up their asses that it comes out of their mouth!
    then the stupid fucked up rich kids who have daddy whose already a solicitor so they can walk into the profession even though they are illiterate pieces of shits!
    as for paying for printing (ARE THEY SERIOUSLY KIDDING ME?!) we pay 3,000 a year and they can’t afford to give us free printing,FAGGOTS!
    Then theres EVERYONE who absolutely dies for clubbing and havent got bored of it yet even though they’ve dun it since they were 15, seriously GET OVER IT U LOSERS!
    the whole system is designed so the government can get regular money from us and charge us interest so they can get back more as well as charging us normal tax on our wages once we start earning properly- in effect they are taking tax from us TWICE!
    FUCKED UP!!!!!!!!!

  672. I’m not gonna be a nasty judgmental person aka REAL, but I am gonna be honest. I’m in 2nd year at uni, and yeah sometimes I hate my course and university life just like everyone else. I’ve not got proper friends at uni but have plenty of non-uni friends and a wonderful non-uni boyfriend who I live with, which helps I suppose. I do agree with those that say if you hate it so much it’s making you ill and depressed then just leave; don’t continue dragging it out. On the same token, if you are there and think the ‘system’ is a pile of shit, then just leave, nobody is forcing you. Forget about what your parents, your parents parents, your parents best friends and the next door neighbors think – it’s completely irrelevant to your health, happiness and wellbeing, not to mention the course of your life. For me, I suffer from various mental health problems etc, and I do struggle often at uni. But the joy that getting a brilliant grade provides me with and the fact that I actually love the academic side of my course makes up for it when I put it in perspective. Even if I never get a job related to my degree after graduation, I won’t regret doing it. money isn’t my main reason for being their. I love learning and expanding my mind and I think uni is a life lesson. Anyway, I hope you all find some peace of mind and decide to do what is best for you. Cheers.

  673. I try to appease the lecturers and respect them only to find they cannot help.

    As students you generally come to realise the lecturers need help themselves; the reason why they are so withdrawn in helping students.

    Yet when you attempt to offer this they are the most defensive people I have ever known. They have drawn a line between the teacher-student and they limit themselves to this relationship.

    I am not looking forwards to crossing this line, although I will as I need to. I tend to get aggressive (albeit this did work the first and only time I tried), so has anyone else succeeded in changing a tutors attitude towards them to an equal standing and to be treated like ‘one of them,’ like friends? If so how?

  674. It’s 5 a.m. around here. I had planed to do some work tonight, but it seems I’m nearly asleep, watching the time pass by as I cannot longer concentrate on the work that is due today. If I go to sleep, I’m sure I’ll oversleep – an hour just isn’t enough. My head hurts, but I’m still awake, asking myself the same existential questions about the cursed ego, the damn urge to please people’s expectations, the money I’m wasting here etc. The most important one, though, is “What am I going to do now?” I’d like to get the earliest train home and ditch today’s lectures and everything else, but I’m afraid my parents will be disappointed and worried about me. It just makes too little sense even for a person who’s accepted life as pointless without losing interest in its beauty. Because, by everything I deem holy, I am not sure why I keep doing this. Learning for myself is way more joyful than learning to be asked about it and then to forget because of all the stress. Maybe it’s the shame that I feel for “not giving my best”, but I’m not sure if I can admit that to myself – my ideals tell me that there is actually nothing to be ashamed of, but nonetheless I judge myself harder than I judge other people. Now I’ve been doing stuff for myself and will certainly fail at what I’ve got to do today at the uni. I think I just won’t go there, they’ll send me away anyways because I won’t have the preparation finished until noon. I don’t know why I still haven’t accepted the relief and instead keep killing the little amount of nerves I’ve got left these days. The depression is back, but it is not the enemy. The hate leaves me enraged and mad, but helpless and silent. I’m tired of wasting time on the uni because of some stupid ambitions I can’t stand anymore. Some people told me to stop worrying, to enjoy my life more, and they’re right. But the same people kept telling me to do my best. Now I keep struggling between “giving my best” – which tosses me back to the sad zombie state of constant information-sucking, a lot of stress, angst, severe depression and daily thoughts of suicide – and “giving up uni to learn for myself and live” – which leaves me with shame for the disappointment, more money worries, the feeling of being useless and therefore worthless. If I knew what to do, I wouldn’t listen to those people (although I’m sure they just want the best for me, but they keep making paradoxes because they’re more confused than me), but I don’t know what would be the right thing… I’m too tired, too confused, too sick of those decisions.
    I hate to see my life like this, but there’s nothing I can really do right now… I think I’ll just go there to waste some more time on nothing. Not that it’ll make me feel better, but at least I won’t feel worse for not going. Heh… the joy of misery and suffering… it really is a cruel drug.

  675. God this place sucks. i hate the lectures, i hate the city, i hate the country. i wish i was in australia. I’m down to do engineering, and if you think that your lectures are boring, we have had some on cement, two hours on cement aarrgghh. I dont drink which means that everyone hates me as drinking is the only past time anyone here seems to enjoy. sports no, tv no , drinking fuck yeah. i fall alseep at like 1 and am then woken up at like 4 by them coming back every night . for fucks sake they have lectures that morning. i even do shit in lectures, was never brilliant at school but was ok, here i just dont have the motivation to bother (slowly stopping going)
    i hate the fact that our accommodation means that i cant cook myself a decent meal and have to go out to eat well.
    anyone from Australia (or NZ) know if the police are recruiting. fuck this place, 2 months of uni has killed my desire to work here (that and the lisbon treaty).

  676. PS3Gamer tag An_O-G

    Man I feel your pain seriously I want to rant to I could go on the whole day and night. I turned to drinking seemed to give me temporary happiness till that put me in hospital now I cant drink or else I gotta get some new friggin organs! Im in my SECOND YEAR!!!! 3 MORE YEARS TO GO!! COMPUTER SCIENCE FRIGGIN GAY !! and if anybody knows how to make minesweeper in c sharp holla coz i cant friggin do it i hate it. I cant say I hate the people there are some nice people they are all very happy but pisses me off as I wonder what are they all so happy about! I JUST WANT TO DRINK DRINK DRINK till my uni life is over!

    And to that chick up there talkin about hang in the or just leave its more than past ure parents ure parents want you there becuase it gives you a bigger guarantee of a job with reel prospects bal bla so u cant leave! DEBT makes me wana hijack the uni vault and the lectures make gay jokes all day liek programming is funny! IT AINT A JOKE GET ON WITH IT!

    On the flipside you gotta look at the end of the road instead of the path coz ull jus screw up ur life! and for all those moanin wile they r twrds deir last year screw u coz u nearly dun wa r u cryign baout

  677. PS3Gamer tag An_O-G

    p.s grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr i wishi i was back in school were i cud laff all day and study da night before and come out with an a or b

  678. urgh i decided to go on exchange for 6 months to the other side of the world. its been hell. uni is not what i expected and i can’t do the work. i have to write a thesis i dont understand, ive been homesick for months and i hate the place i live in. i hate uni so much right now. just 3 weeks to persevere then i’m outa here…for a month before it starts back home again. at least i’ll be at home.

  679. wrote one of these in feb and starting looking at this website again since i got back in september. I’m in my 3rd and last year of an environmental science degree but i’m still thinking of dropping out a lot. I already got the DipHE you get after 2 years and that would have been a good time to quit but because of the recession i thought it would be best to carry on. I realsied within a week of getting here that i was wrong. Yeah, i’ve made friends and there have been some good times but i can’t help but feel it’s too little too late. I don’t have enough keeping me here and i get bored which leads to depression which leads to me going on blogs like this instead of doing coursework which i always leave till the last minute.
    Some people have posted comments like, “you should put your energy into doing the work and you’d be happiuer” but its hard to get the mind to focus on something that im not into. I am interested in the environment but i don’t want to read ridiculously specific journal articles that take ages to get thru and then regurgetate them for an essay with references every time. I just don’t see the fun side of university at all. I feel lazy for always putting the coursework off but really i’m just not academically intelligent. I’m not saying manual labour is all i’m good for but i just hate sitting in the room or library all day. I like to daydream and i can’t do that when i’m forced to think about bacteria or whatever all the time.
    And silencer, i know how you feel or i think i do. You should do what you can to relieve the pressure. If thsat means dropping out then so be it. Don’t worry about what others think. Like you said, they are more likely to be offended that you don’t want to be like them or go to their institution than actually give a fuck about your wellbeing.

  680. Just when I thought it couldn’t get any worse theres a lecture on factory production line maintenance procedures in the 1940′s…..so over this.

  681. i like ure end bit eddy , me too man i like doing things hands on i hate reading but u gimme a computer w.e da problem is il fix it. but this whole idea of having to write essays about ict legislation is bull crap. I love day dreaming and practical work aced hi skwl but uni seems to b a big no no in my second year doin engineering systems.

    dese guys r so desperately tryin to fit in spend 8 hrs putin hair gel in for ONE friggin hour of the day ina flipin lesson so desperate to b noticed! for WHAT only to go out and pretend you are someone who u aint? then go hoem and realise your life is empty past the the beers and the make up! why not just go to a fashion school were u can sit there wid air heads and talk about hair n make up coz fags lyk u r da reason y i hate university and well da fact da universty is dressed up to b da tym ov ur lyf during induction but inda END NO ONE CARE GRRRRRRRRRRRRR I JUST WANT TO GET AWAY I THINK I SHOULD GET A JOB SAVE UP ALL MY MONEY FOR A YEAR AND BUY 20K LOTTO TICKETS ONE OF SHUD BA WINNER AND DISAPPEAR AFTER I PISS ON MY UNIVERSITYS SERVERS1 ps if my tutor reads this ure too sexy for me to hate you so il take you with me lol

  682. we shud jus have our own island were we dont know what the words worry and stress mean

  683. Fucking university is bullshit…I’m doing pretty well but I hate it so much…can’t wait for this semester to end…I don’t want to go back…I’d rather be a bum on Skid Row and smoke crack all day.

  684. i just don’t want to be here. whenever i think maybe life is getting better, it goes ten times worse.my family/mates from home don’t want to hear about it, as they think i’m being a drama queen and just being lazy. I have so much work to do, I used to get drunk every night with randomers from my halls and do stupid things for attention, but they are all just nasty people who now avoid me so i stopped..deciding to focus on studying, but i keep getting crap marks, so what’s the point. i was thinking i missed my life before, but then realised i’ve basically never been happy, so of course i’d fuck uni up.

  685. I hate it so much, it keeps me up at night. Literally.

  686. Uni is the best thing that ever happened to me, met my boyfriend here, great housemates, good grades despite a distinct lack of effort… it makes me so sad to see that there are so many people not enjoying it =( however ‘life is what you make it’

  687. I am i my third year of uni and I hate it. I want to drop out SO much but don’t want to disappoint my parents and have wasted 2 years of my life and so much money. To be honest I don’t think I was ready to come straight from school. I came to uni very depressed and unsure of myself, actually quite suicidal. Anyone who is suicidal should NOT go to uni especially if they have a problem with alcohol, which I have!!! Lived in halls in first year and got drunk 4 or 5 times a week on average. Barely went to lectures, they made no sense to me. I and others around me rapidly developed a dangerous relationship with alcohol, so much of the things I have seen and done in uni related to alcohol are just appalling but this is the way of life people think it’s normal. Not much better when I moved into a house in seond year, didn’t get drunk so much but had to do loads of work, going out less realised most of my friends were only there for nights out, made hardly any real friendships and feel so alone. I HATE MY COURSE SO MUCH. I am doing english and it is the most pretentious piece of bullsh**t ever, so different to how it was in school. They way people talk in seminars makes me want to scream and tear my hair out, I can’t bear the endless scrutiny and analysis of the most minor details of every text, everything is always about gender, racism, social staus blablabla I thought I was doin english not politics!!!!??? I always did well in school without really tying got three A’s and thought I would do fairly well in uni but now I am doing so badly, I know it’s my fault as well because I make minimal effort but there is a ridiculous amount of work to do and I can’t stand the stress. I am trying to clean up my act at the moment and just plough on but it’s so hard, i will get a 2.2 at best and dread to think how I am going to get a job. I just want to get drunk and stoned and forget it all. Yeah that’s another thing, I got stoned like ALL the time last year it’s just too easy! Don’t know how do destress without weed or alcohol :c(. Also not great mates with my housemates, one is the most selfish inconsiderate person ever, two are nice but we’re not very close, the other two are my only friends in uni but we get on each others nerves living together all the time. I want to have other friends but it seems like too much effort. People on my course are so arrogant. I hate it. I hate it so much.

  688. I am i my third year of uni and I hate it. I want to drop out SO much but don’t want to disappoint my parents and have wasted 2 years of my life and so much money. To be honest I don’t think I was ready to come straight from school. I came to uni very depressed and unsure of myself, actually quite suicidal. Anyone who is suicidal should NOT go to uni especially if they have a problem with alcohol, which I have!!! Lived in halls in first year and got drunk 4 or 5 times a week on average. Barely went to lectures, they made no sense to me. I and others around me rapidly developed a dangerous relationship with alcohol, so much of the things I have seen and done in uni related to alcohol are just appalling but this is the way of life people think it’s normal. Not much better when I moved into a house in seond year, didn’t get drunk so much but had to do loads of work, going out less realised most of my friends were only there for nights out, made hardly any real friendships and feel so alone. I HATE MY COURSE SO MUCH. I am doing english and it is the most pretentious piece of bullsh**t ever, so different to how it was in school. They way people talk in seminars makes me want to scream and tear my hair out, I can’t bear the endless scrutiny and analysis of the most minor details of every text, everything is always about gender, racism, social staus blablabla I thought I was doin english not politics!!!!??? I always did well in school without really tying got three A’s and thought I would do fairly well in uni but now I am doing so badly, I know it’s my fault as well because I make minimal effort but there is a ridiculous amount of work to do and I can’t stand the stress. I am trying to clean up my act at the moment and just plough on but it’s so hard, i will get a 2.2 at best and dread to think how I am going to get a job. I just want to get drunk and stoned and forget it all. Yeah that’s another thing,

  689. Rachy im not sure you really understand. Life is how you make it, but I went to uni all keen and excited and was severly disapointed. I have tried to be friendly and sociable, only to find that people just don’t want to be friends. They’ll chat in lectures if you make them, but at the end they’ll walk off without a word and blank you the next day. I managed to make friends with sum guys, only they ditched me too because I intend to stay faithful to my boyfriend. I tried to join clubs, but they all meet at around 9pm, and as I live over an hour away thats just too late to get the last bus home after, plus it means that as I finish uni at 5, I have to find something to do for the next four hours. Theres only so much you can do before you feel hopeless. Not everyone is as lucky as you I’m afraid.

  690. Donna: Totally agree. Life is what you make it, but people always forget that luck has a role in it too. You can put in all the effort you like, but if you have bad luck and don’t meet the right people or aren’t in the right situations at the right times, things just get crappy anyway. And in those cases, you can’t really say it’s cos you haven’t tried hard enough to make things happen. It’s more like you tried, but you just end up disappointed. Eventually, after several times of being let down, you just don’t feel like trying anymore.

  691. I was just going to adapt to doing (mostly useful things) what I like, get a little job, learn for myself, ignore the uni to avoid worsening the depression, and almost started writing my stories again… but I guess that was too good to happen for me. Because, no matter that this year already is and still is going to be a wasted one when it’s over, I have to learn, do assignments, go to lectures, write tests etc. Why the hell…? Well, I have to reach enough ects points in order to get a place in a dorm next year. Screw that, I say – I know a lot of people who didn’t get a place although they were doing very well at their universities. But if I don’t work my ass off for that now that I know this, I can go right ahead and kill myself, because the guilt and money worries are going to eat me alive…
    How does one learn when he/she is desperate and depressed? I had about 8 hours of sleep last night and feel more tired and worse than the times I got none at all, but can’t sleep now because I’m too nervous. Some students around here were just too drunk, selfish and loud to give anybody enough peace to rest. Hurray! I mean, some of us stayed here for the weekend to learn for fuck’s sake! The people of tomorrow are being a bunch of drunk idiots. I was thinking about it as maybe a good way to relieve stress, but it seems more stupid and self-destructive than cutting yourself… I’m not willing to go for either one of these methods, I’ll try something more productive later.
    I’m also sick and tired of people telling me to cheer up (or to try some kind of happy-pills), to give my best for that shit no matter if I fail (alias work my ass off for nothing while I could be doing more useful things… I mean, come on, do I really need more frustration? Gee, thanks, you’re being very supportive…), to just stick through it (too bad it makes me want to kill myself or somebody else, but yeah, I certainly should try just sucking everything up until I finally fucking snap and explode – not that it’s a bad thing, but hey, one has to try, right?), to think about how things could be worse (so, I should cheer up by imagining something depressive?) and so on, and so on… There’s been nearly nothing useful in them thinking to know everything. I should really stop talking to people who are “trying to help”…

  692. Now I fear I’m stuck running away from everything.

  693. You know, it’s kind of ironic that there are so many of us out there who hate uni, but we’ll probably never meet one another. I mean, we all hate uni, so it would probably be cool if we were to all somehow meet – then we could talk about our problems and at least WE would understand each other coz we’re all going through the same shit. Whereas other people don’t get us and just tell us to snap out of it or get over it or be happy. So we’re all stuck in the same boat…but we’re all alone in this because we can’t find each other. Ah well. Life’s like that I guess.

  694. University suks dik! It is full of people who have had bed times and finaly gain freedom at University, drinking, staying up past 10 and having no one to answer too is all new to these individuals they just lose it.
    The work set is obscure and pointless!
    Does it have any relevance to the working world at all!
    Uni is shit but for all those who think about dropping out just soldier through its worth it in the end.
    Fuck friends
    Fuck happiness
    Just sell your soul for 3 years!

  695. 694.Evie wrote::
    You know, it’s kind of ironic that there are so many of us out there who hate uni, but we’ll probably never meet one another. I mean, we all hate uni, so it would probably be cool if we were to all somehow meet – then we could talk about our problems and at least WE would understand each other coz we’re all going through the same shit.

    I completely agree. I guess everyone, in addition to writing about how you hate university, can state which university they go to. This way, if 2 or more people are in the same uni, then they can connect.

    Does anyone go to York University in Toronto? If so, email me at seanmccan@hotmail.com

    Hope to hear from you!

  696. People, post the university you go to and your email addresses so all the university-hating people can connect with one another!

  697. i type in ‘i hate university’ and find this page.

    i blame the dissapointment and depression on the hype you get as a kid about it. and how you’ll go nowhere without it.

    i sincerely hope i’m not wasting three years of my life here. Ive plenty of friends and can get ok grades when i try but nothing seems like real life.
    i hate myself for not enjoying it like others are and that self-hate makes me tired and depressed and ashamed at myself for worrying about this shit when there are starving children across the globe.

    institutional education has created something horrible inside of me which i’l continue to hunt until i die it seems like.

    best part is, i’l go and deliver some shitty work to a tutor tomorrow like everybody else on this page. Heck i’ve payed £3000s to.

    University of Reading, UK, sucking balls since 1870.
    seeya!

  698. Loathing Brunel Uni…with a passion.
    So stressed out about work I cried today…can’t believe this bullshits got me worried while I’ve got a dying nan I couldnt visit cos of deadlines. I. Hate. University.
    Not gonna go out and get drunk every nite like others,as its utterly pointless.like honestly, get a grip u ppl have no life..
    if u join a pointless club or society ur grades suffer. if u do ur work u have no social life. lose lose situation really.

  699. I’m glad I only have to spend another year with these douches. If any of them come up to me at graduation and give me some bullshit about missing me or wishing me luck for the future I’ll stab them in the fucking throat.

  700. In my second year at uni in the north of the UK. I have not met one person here who has inspired me in the slightest. I used to like my group of friends but now I can hardly stand any of them (and I don’t trust the ones I’m ‘closest’ to). Everyone else is a clone. When I go out, I have to be totally wasted or else the point of life disappears behind the vacant, stupid, sweaty faces of the hundreds of drunken idiots that ram themselves into a tiny room to dance to the same music they heard last night, and the night before, and the night before etc etc for the last, say, 3 years?
    Uni has unraveled my idea of who I am, has emptied me of my creativity and intellectual curiosity and has taught me how cruel, indifferent, insensitive, narrow-minded and snobby people can be. I hope these are flaws just of the sub-sect that comes to this specific place and not the entire human race- but I’m not too hopeful.
    I find it laughable that the students here refer to the town as the ‘bubble’ affectionately… I find it f*cking suffocating.
    In five years I hope I don’t know any of these people.

  701. Ive been looking at this site for quite some time now, but never commented myself. there really is a lot of hype about what to expect from university life, but in reality, its a life changing and very difficult, lonely experience. im a ‘mature’ student, apparently, at the age of 23… the other students in my class refer to me as old! as much as i do hate going to university i really do urge people to stick it out. its only three years of ur life and the term time isnt constant throughtout. i personally have worked very hard to get into university and look forward to the respect i will gain from getting my degree. i have worked in horrible, soul destroying jobs that most people on my course would never even dream about, but thats what makes me feel that little bit more proud to be where i am today. Ive had nothing given to me in my life, n i wouldnt change that for the world cuz ive got my head screwed on because of it. Its seems quite obvious to me that most ppl who view this site are failing to connect with ppl on their course and this is whats causing so much anxiety (as is with me!) I try to see the people on my course as naive, and its not their fault… as given the right upbringing, i could quite easily have turned out just the same. anyways, i hope my comments bring a little comfort to some people, and hang on in there as all will turn out fine im sure :)

  702. thank you for writing this.

  703. Waster. How are students naive?

  704. Jam, most students who go to university are 18 and have only known life at school and not the working world. Inevitably, they are going to be naive as they do not realise whats important in life nor do they know how horrible sme jobs can be without qualifications. Im not trying to preach (I called myself Waster for goodness sake lol) but I just notice that a lot of ppl are irritated by the other students lack of maturity and open-mindedness and are losing heart because of it. If students think by quitting their course they will be any happier then im sorry to say that in my experience… no they wont. Instead of in a couple of years time they have a degree, they will have worked in a crap job and been treated as such by other work mates due to their young age and inexperience.

  705. hotross@btopenworld.

    I hated university. When I was at nottingham trent. But now ive changed to coventry I love it!! if your not happy dont make a website and moan about it. Says a lot about you. Instead of moping do something about it!

  706. I am 2nd year and hate uni so much too. In my first year I will admit to start with I found it great, but as the terms went on, it got worse and worse.

    Now, this year, I’m so unhappy and depressed. None of my friends back home really understand as they all are totally enjoying their university life and moving on in the world. The worst bit for me is that I’m now trying to live in the past, remembering my good times during 6th form and knowing that as the years pass, my old friends will become more distant, and my uni “friends” are nothing more than a convience…

    I feel so isolated and alone.

  707. I hate uni as well. I’m a part tinme student on a Bsc Hons in Building Surveying. So far I have learnt very little that I can use in my job. I already work in my chosen profession as a building surveyor however I need a paper qualification to back my experience up.

    I have found with being part time the lecturers are scared of you because they know your building knowledge is more up to date than theirs. They also are happy to take your money off you £1,000 a year but give you no or very little guidance. The standard of marking is supposed to be the same but they expect a much highe standard from us while excepting full timers work that is shit to put it bluntly and marking it higher than ours.

    They are out of touch with the industry when they were in practice you normally had one project on at a time. I’m doing 20 now and working a 45 – 50 hour week and thats with out college work. I also commute a 100 mile round trip to work every day where HQ is and work on sites up and down the country. Then you have smart arsed lecturer getting paid a forture for working a 37 hour week telling you you should be spending a minium of 20 hours a week on your dissertation and thats excluding other coursework.

    I’m glad its my last year and I couldn’t even give a fuck if I get a 3rd as long as I have my freedom back at last.

  708. Broiche which University are you at? I ask this because of your last comment- I think I go to the same one (Is it in Scotland) I’m afraid to name it because I’m using school PCs xxxxxxx

  709. O.K, I just double checked and BRIOCHE you do go to the same University- North of England, in Scotland I’m guessing, because the idiots here also refer to it as the bubble- and I agree with you…I have literally only one friend here, and I also find it really suffocating too. (Its St As your’re talkign about right?) if so, write back and I’ll e-mail you, feels so good to knwo I’m not the only person misreable here….the people I’ve met here are really dissappointing. =( I wanted to be happy here and instead I find myself feeling so depressed and hopless….I canl;t wait for it to be over….and LOL about the comment of people in a tiny room dancing to shit music….thats excatly what the ‘social life’ here has been all about, bad music, cloney girls all dressed the same and going around in huge packs, and stupid traditions that are meant to be fun, but are actually just humiliating and sad. I want to leave soooooooooooooooooo much, but I have to get a degree somehow, so it just wouldn’t be practical xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

  710. What the heck is Real doing on this forum? Out of all of us posters, he’s the most pretentious (for lack of a better term) one of all.

    Note that the forum is called “Why I Hate University Life” not “Suck up it up you wimps and buckle down and do the uni course load.”

    My ultimate question for Real (Poster 455) is: What are you doing here on this forum?

  711. Crystal^^ he/she hates it too, trust me- he’s just getting some kind of pathetic satisfaction out of doing that- people who genuinely like University would never know that this place exists, because, as others have noticed, you HAVE to google I hate Uni or words to that effect to get to this site. Real is a fake.

  712. I found this website a few weeks back and I can’t even begin to explain how reassuring it was to know I’m not the only one who feels like this. Everybody else seems to be having the ‘time of their lives’. Anyway, someone posted earlier that if you have problems with social anxiety/depression, you shouldn’t go to University. Well, I’m another example that proves that to be true. I knew this was going to be hell, but nooo, of course not. All my friends and family tell me it will be fine, that it will ‘help me’ and I stupidly listen. Of course I was right. This is the worst environment for me and every day, I feel like another part of my sanity and my will to live dies. So basically, I was already suicidal before coming here, and now I’m even more suicidal than I thought possible. I tried SO hard the first few weeks. I did things WAY out of my confidence level, approaching people to talk first in a way I’d never have imagined I could. But it’s all come to nothing. I dont have a single friend here. I talk to someone in a lecture, I try and be nice, but as soon as it finishes, they walk off without even asking my name. There was one guy, who I approached at this social they had for my course, and for the first week, we sat together at all the induction talks and lectures. Well, the week after, he’s sitting with new people and acting as if I dont even exist. I think that was a total confidence meltdown for me. And now I’m kind of scared to approach people first anymore because I think they’ll reject me.
    I have no motivation to do anything anymore. As the weeks pass, I go to less and less lectures. I even missed a few seminars, and I didnt hand in a piece of coursework today because I couldn’t bear the thought of going around this miniscule town where you recognise someone from your course every 2 seconds, asking questionnaires. I sleep for as long as possible as an escape, and it takes so much strengh for me to just leave my house.
    I’m so tired of people telling me to ‘just pull through’ or ‘keep going’ when this is litereally killing me. I’ve never wanted to die more in my life. All my friends are off having fun miles away from me, as I hide away in my room night after night.
    I’m only here because I have to be. If I want to get a job, I have to be here, as everyone keeps telling me. Even though I don’t enjoy my subject but it’s the only thing I’m any good at. I want to go home so bad and do an open university course but my parents dont want me to. I hate this feeling. Like I’m trapped. If I leave, everyone will be so angry and disappointed. So I have to just stay here, trying to survive every day even though each day feels like a year.
    The thought of having to wake up tomorrow and walk to the bloody campus filled with crowds of people makes me feel sick to my stomach. It all feels so hopeless. I wish I could just have normal brains like my friends, be confident, enjoy clubbing and going out and meeting new people. Actually want to live like they do. Maybe then I’d be enjoying myself here. Sorry for the rant and any typos :P

  713. 4 weeks until I get to back home for Christmas. I will honestly cry for joy the whole journey home.

  714. *get to go back home

    This is a sign I need to go to bed XD

  715. TRUE TO THE GAME

    O the sigh of relieve! O do we ALL weep indeed. School is a bourgeois-lead capitalist hetero-patriachical white supremacist piece of shit! I’m 22 and have failed out of university/college TWICE. This place is a DEATH ZONE. I’m just wonder how many people commit suicide because this place is so BORING as fuck? I’m in my 4 year of nothing. Every thing I learned I wish desperately to UNLEARN. Before school at least I had friends and was SEMI-HAPPY. I have no friends and most of people here I have nothing in common. I always hated school, bunch of rich idiots boasting about how great it is here. It really isn’t, they like us mourn in the dark.
    I KNOW college/university is not right for me…after all most of us are not MADE to be CAGED BIRDS. I’m a free spirit, a total libertarian. Why do I sit indoors listening to the DRY voice of an old man? telling about his boring life.

    In my opinion, everyone should do what the fuck they want. However here I am, day and night paying CLOSE attention to what some UGLY asshole with a fancy Phd telling ME WHO TO BE. Yet dozens of us sit in this prison system day after day. A professor is nothing more than a PREACHER giving you “THE WORD” (which he/she probably wrote). Since when is it OKAY to have pros write us their text books? BIAS MUCH? LOL! God FORBID YOU CHALLENGE THEM. THE WRATH WILL BE-TH ON YE. Most professors at my universities are LAZY, OVERPAID DUMBASSES. I’ve gone to not one but TWO universities and it is the same mass of unenthusiastic faces. Same people, same course with a different name.

    Why are we and our parents paying close to 12 grand a year to “learn” things we could have taught ourselves. I know my piece of paper is GOING to be WORTHLESS. I wonder how people with Phd’s stick it out. (no pun intended). I’m one of the only people in my family who can BARELY finish my degree (for real). I’m doing assignments I don’t care for, going to classes I hate….I’m a black girl so I have 0% chance if I don’t go along with their Eurocentric gibber jabber. They don’t even teach REAL white cultural truths…instead they feed all of us with HIS-STORY. Well I’m NOT BUYING IT.

    About the professors, I’ve ONLY met 2 who stand out as really caring and wanted to help me. The rest were self-centered stone cold-asshole elitist motherfuckers. I would have been fine at home listening to my music, writing, and just being me. School is DEPRESSING and OPPRESSIVE.

    The whole “individualism” “creativity” is such nicely painted point bullshit, of course they wouldn’t want the students THINKING for themselves. God FORBID! They might FIGURE THE SCAM OUT! YUP YUP, they give us PRE-MADE ideologies to corrupt our minds and fool us to believe that the whole super rich and super poor people INequality is NATURAL. Not to mention they justify us destroying the environment for our their GREED. They even talk about how poor people don’t work hard enough. FUCK YOU ELITES. I’m so sad my mom keeps paying for this SHIT DEGREE. No wonder my sister almost KILLED HERSELF, NO MOTIVATION for this SPIRIT-KILLING HOLE.

    The government and the UNeducation system trains us to go to school to “better” ourselves (LOL). As others have lamented BITTERLY on this site. I failed out the first time cause I didn’t give a fuck. Second time same reason. I have a strange feeling I can’t even make it. FOUR YEARS. Boys and Girls. I like the youngsters on this site fantasized that university was this “journey” of exploration in which I would make lots of friends who were REVOLUTIONARIES, VISIONARIES, PEOPLE WHO CARED. I found out that instead they are a bunch of zombies that do as they are told, suck up (litterally) to get that beloved “A”. Everybody who is in engineering and other shit degrees spend those wasted years feeling so great. Coming out empty handed…where is your job now? OH I FORGOT YOU NEED ANOTHER 2 YEARS TO GET THAT MA SO YOU CAN STAND OUT IN A SEE OF MASSES WITH USELESS DEGREES. Take a ticket and get in line with the no-future, no-hope folk.

    I told my favorite professor a few days ago I HATE UNIVERSITY. I’m ANTI-INSTITUTION…look what it does to us! World wide. University is overall a DISGRACE. Even medical doctors are not immune to this foolishness. They are just high paid TOOLS to keep us SICK. SAVE LIVES? lol As chris rock said they ain’t cured SHIT. Infact thanks to them and the CORPORATIONS (pharmaceutical companies) they are medicalizing everything…”ADHD” “Restless leg disorder” “social aniexty disorder”. I SEE RIGHT THRU THEM.

    University is just another UGLY business in which we GIVE them our money. Almost everything we learn in school is the reason why society is a ugly mess. WHO BENEFITS from UNIVERSITY…well the rich PRICKS who can afford and have parents with CONNECTIONS. Who can go to havard? surely not most black kids born in poverty, surely not the poor whites (who can’t even afford food), not even the recent immigrants, not even the general masses (except you rack up debts that you will NEVER get out of)

    Professors are the worst. WHY? white jesus WHY? My classes would be more interesting if HOMELESS PEOPLE came in to INSTRUCT. At least they GO OUTSIDE. They have LIFE EXPERIENCE, which is far more interesting than their DULL, LIFELESS POWER POINT REGURGITATIONS.

    I conclude that U-niversity should be changed to THEIR-niversity. Nothing about YOU, all about THEM AND MONEY. THAT IS IT. These fuckers hold MEETINGS just to LAUGH at us I bet.

    We are ALL affected by this DISEASE called post-secondary education. Shit I’ve learned MORE outside of school out of CURIOSITY than sitting straight face at a bunch of chalk writing or useless power points.

    I conclude by saying to all those reading this…avoid school if you CAN. I feel I’m too creative to be in school anyways. I’d be done my phd in like 2019 LOL if I follow thru however knowing what I know…

    I write this as I sit bored in school. I have 0 motivation to finish the lame assignments I have due next week and another live-wasting paper due in 2 weeks. Tomorrow I face the OPPRESSOR–my professor for a hour and 1/2 of reading my notes. Hopefully I passed my midterm. Passing is great, the whole getting good grades never inspired me. How dull.
    I’m getting depressed thinking I will have to do it again next semester 4 course. I actually like the title of some of the subjects however I know most of what is told is LIES LIES LIES. If it was the TRUTH most OPPRESSED people would be LIBERATED however because it is the people in power that put their kids in this cage we have no chance.

    The biggest CROOKS in the world are the government, the police and of COURSE OUR UNIVERSITIES churning out the bourgeois classiest sexist racist freaks. I want to drop out so bad however I have to finish what I start…even just for the sake of my mom. So I don’t end up a loser.

  716. True To The Game ^ I am with you 100% of the way! I couldn’t have said it ANY better myself and you’ve expressed how I and many others on here feel, I only wish we could all band together some how…University sucks!

  717. Curlygirl. i have social anxiety aswel. Ive suffered with it for as long as i can remember. in my 1st year of uni it was torture trying to approach people because ive never done it before really. i thought moving to uni would force me to deal with it ‘make friends or have no friends’ sort of thing. im in my 2nd year now and things are slowly gettin better. ive hated every second of it i really no wot ur goin through. im very sorry to hear your feeling so down. i got a p/t bar job last year along side uni. this really helped as i got more used to having conversations with people knowing that the small talk was only going to last for the duration of the time it took me to serve them a drink so the unbearable awkwardness wasnt as bad. it also gave me something to do outside of uni apart from sitting alone in my room. people generally tend to stay after work for a drink aswel. something to consider maybe.

  718. i hate university. was popular in high school, now im a total loser….. go home as much as i can… university like sucks.

  719. I really don’t get our societies obsession with education. If we are supposed to progress as a human race, shouldn’t we become more fixed upon a common source of happiness and knowledge?

  720. Has anyone considered that maybe it’s not uni in general that you hate, but the uni YOU’RE at that you don’t like?
    Personally I’ve moved to a different country, I see my family, friends and boyfriend for about a fortnight every 3 months and yet I’m doing what I love and having the best time of my life doing it. Coming to uni was the best decision I’ve ever made. And maybe I don’t have as many friends as I did back home, and maybe we’re not as close either: but it’s a different life. A different life, but an amazing one.
    Good luck to all you guys who hate it…

  721. #721: convincing fail…

  722. Mirriam– I’m not st As, but I assume my [collegiate, cathedral town uni near newcastle] uni and yours are quite similar. maybe it’s just something about the north, haha. am now applying to do a year abroad, desperately hoping to fling myself to the other side of the planet before I become a raging alcoholic. I know what you mean about finishing. I would never leave bc I know I can stick it out and it would have been such a waste of my time to quit–plus the system has no leeway for people that haven’t followed the herd. so a disgruntled sheep I shall be until I can get away! Cannot wait for the day I can burn my stupid gown.

  723. I’m tired. I hate uni. I hate having to work all the hours god sends. Working in real life is not as hard as this. The pressure is incredible and the deadlines we’ve been set this year are unachievable. And who’s idea was it to give us a group project in our final year. I’m tired. This is lame.

  724. myheartisanapple

    I am so lonely here. Even though I came to university in my home town (BIG mistake) which is something I never intended to do, I feel like I know no-one. I live in these bleak, grey halls of residences in the middle of an industrial estate where hardly a single person comes out of their rooms, except to eat. I tried to join societies and speak to people in my course but nothing materialises. I think I have tried to cover up this empitness by spending money which only means I have now reach the end of my overdraft already and I only started in September, so am completely skint. I constantly compare myself to others around me, who seem to be having so much fun but it just never happens. Completely backpedalling. I hate getting out of bed in the morning and sometimes don’t even bother which means I have fallen behind somewhat and now have a mountain of work and countless essays to do over exam period. It is getting to winter now and I hardly ever see daylight. All I want to do is turn back time and go to a different uni, but who knows if that would even BE different? Maybe they are all like this. The guilt would be too much knowing that a lot of money has been payed for me to stay here, and for me to leave and go somewhere else at risko f it being the same. My whole life I have been told that your university years are the best in your life, and a lot of people who have recently graduated have told me but WHY CAN’T I HAVE THAT? WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? FUCK THIS.
    Sorry for such a ramble/ dump but I am really down about this and it was nice to get it off my chest!

  725. myheartisanapple

    Just read ‘curlygirl’s post and that’s EXACTLY how I feel, I am completely gobsmacked! I tried to speak to a girl in my course before a lecture and she literally said ‘yeaaah’ and walked and stood like 2 metres away from me. My confidence just keeps on getting shattered like that. I feel like everyone is walking past me, laughing in groups, not worrying at all about what people think, but it’s ALL I can think about. I feel like I’m doing something wrong al the time, and I’ve been getting homesick which is for the first time in my life. It is such a comfort to read that other people are going through the same thing because it is sooo lonely, and I don’t know who to talk to about it, I don’t want to be annoying or a bore to my friends from school (who have all moved away and are having an amazing time, it seems. This does not help!)

  726. TRUE TO THE GAME

    I’ve been crying for the last 3 days. I’m in such great pain. I have assignments I haven’t finished don’t care to. I try, however I end up listening to music for hours. I try to face it but I don’t give a fuck. Even in my favorite class, I struggle to give a DAMN. I come to this site every other day. Rereading my post and the post of others. University and the oppressive nature of the system of white supremacy hetero capitalist patriachy is killing me slowly. I want to fight to live, to help others but I’m being consumed spirit, mind and body in this soul-sucking vacuum. I wish to be liberated from the chains of bondage that we call school from the DIS-connected science fiction fantasy some call the textbooks we are taught in school. Some ask, girl why don’t you just drop out? HAHA! If I drop out not only will this haunt me for the rest of my life (thru my parents dissing me). I’m african (canadian) so I’d be condemned as a ‘rebel’ against “God”. I’ve had to face the oppressor not once but twice. I think it is genetic…my sister almost commited suicide because of the PRESSURE while doing her masters.
    I feel it. *sigh*
    I’m positive I’m suffering from what the doctors call depression. Depression however is not a personal thing but rather the inward manifestation and realization that most efforts of conformity to the system are futile. We all in the same boat, believing in a system that has ALWAYS failed. When I lie in bed I try to tell myself that I’m not crazy. The only thing that gets me going is music.
    No wonder the most “successful” people didn’t go to “liberated” prison (oh I mean school). My university website says “higher education”. I laugh at that. Higher for WHO? of the bourgeois motherfuckers! We are ALL being PLAYED.

    It scares me that the THEIR-versity masses continue to attend this MENTAL institution. People are silent, no one talks to me. No one cares, the false sense of individualism crushes my soul. Why are people cold? I hear them laughing their fake laughs, PRETENDING to have fun. Who the fuck are you dipshits kidding? *sigh* No one understands and when they do they live in another GODDAMN country. My only resistance is my writing.

    I cry so hard, I’m so sad. I’m a mess. I wake up pretending it isn’t happening but like a bad nightmare it continues for years. However I will not be burnt to ashes. To those struggling like me, keep your head up. That is what I tell myself to get thru the day.

  727. Uni. Blows Theorem

    Society just needs to accept and adapt to the fact that learning is not exclusive to attending university. We have so much access to information these days that I’d even argue that attending university fucked up my learning process.

    The only reason university is useful for a majority of people is because it adds that tidbit of information on their resume “University of Toronto, Bachelor of Science” as “proof” (emphasis on quotations) that they know what their doing. Well sorry to break it to whoever is reading the resume, but just because one graduates from a university does not imply that they are competent and conversely, not graduating from a university does not imply one’s incompetence.

    Don’t even get me started about the piss poor education one received in university.

    And all the bullshit that you’re exposed to.

    But don’t take this as me whining. I completely realize how much more fucked I could be without a degree. And that my friends is pretty much the only motivation I have left for attending uni. Pretty fucking sad, huh?

  728. I have been reading this for the past hour or so and I am so happy that I’m not the only person to hate uni! I’ve hated it from the start and stuck it out because I did well in school and thought it would be a waste if I didn’t do something with my intelligence. Turns out I’m not all that intelligent and I’m probably one of the ‘dumbest’ on my course and that makes me not even want to go to lessons, because then everyone knows how dumb I am! Also, my course (and the whole uni) is full of private school kids and I come from a council estate so I just feel so out of place. I’m in my third and final year now and I’m really trying hard to hang on it but it’s all become too much. I’m so behind on my work and just couldn’t give a crap anymore if I fail. I hate the fact that you’re just a number at uni, no one wants to help you if you’re having trouble and it’s just one big competition (who can get the best marks for an assignment). Oh well, only half a year or so of this crap and then I’m free! Anyone go to King’s College London (and hate it!)??

  729. Hey myheartisanapple
    I’m not happy you could relate to my post obviously :P But glad I could show you’re not alone in what you think. And if you ever want to just talk or rant about how you feel, you could email if you like? Or MSN? Just ask :) Because I totally know how you feel with the whole ‘friends’ thing. All mine are so happy, I hate always having to say ‘No, I’m not fine’ when they call so I usually just sidestep the topic. And then of course I have to see all the photos on facebook of them with their new friends looking happy :(

  730. Wow I’ve never seen such a mass of comments on one subject spanning so many years. This is an achievement in itself. I’m a third year student. Actually I just suspended my study until next year as I have depression and was unable to continue. In the past I have felt a lot of the things people are saying here. I’ve only really made a couple of friends in the 2 years I’ve been at uni. I know this is largely due to my own personality but the fact is I don’t know how to be any different. Like the saying a leopard can’t change its spots. I’m not saying people can’t change at all as they clearly can. Just you can’t change into a completely different person. I’ve tried self help books, councelling, hypnotherapy but I’m still lost and lonely. I’ve now lost more hope after uni didn’t turn out how I thought it would. But there is 2 separate issues I see here. One is whether you are interested in what you are learning and if it really is preparing you for some career. The other is the social side: making friends and fitting in with peers. I am studying computer science. Its very hard actually and I like to do well at things. I am interested in this and I feel it is preparing me for a career. The social side not so good. I don’t really have a point to this comment. Just stuff comming out my brain directly to the page really. So heres some binary 0010010110100101111011011101101

  731. Uni is shitty and a big waste of time. Too many unnecesary courses have to be taken, a degree that could be finished in 2.5 years gets extended to 4. Piece shit instititution, i hate it… btw second year b.comm

  732. ugh! thought i was getting used to uni, still no real friends, but im in the middle of spending a rare full weekend with my bf and it has made me realise what really is important to me. However, this revelation came at a bad time – 2 weeks before the exams. How the hell do i keep my motivation now?!

  733. See if any of you can relate to how I am feeling at the moment: “I am ridiculously unhappy, it takes a lot for me to smile nowadays. My life is stagnant, I am bored and I have no motivation to drive myself forwards. I have contemplated suicide too many times but I don’t think I would ever have the balls to do it. I could never do that to my family or the people who care about me. I am sometimes surprised that that people do care about me. I feel like an empty shell of a human being. I have no positivity anymore, negative thought patterns have taken me over, I no longer have the capacity for positive thought. I am a master of self deprecation, an accomplished introvert, shy to the point that it is impossible to get to know me. I trust nobody anymore. The things I used to want now seem so far beyond my reach that I have stopped wanting them anymore. I have no self assurance, I feel insecure about absolutely everything, like I have reverted back into being a scared teenager. I have more social phobias than I care to think about. I think people hate me, I am eternally lonely and I think I’m never going to find happiness. What will I do after I leave this place, I hate myself too much to love anybody, I am totally useless. I am spiralling uncontrollably into depression and I feel as though there is nothing I can do about it. I am so unsure of myself that I don’t even know who or what I am. I am a mess, an empty space, a blank canvas. I have nothing interesting to say, and nobody is interested to hear a word which I say.” Oh well, only 6 or so months to go!

  734. I never went to university (just college which I hated)but used to work at one. The lecturers and departmental heads were frankly, as badly behaved, arrogant and more conceited than unruly children. They were also remarkably lazy.
    It’s easy for people to complain about ‘bloody students’ but in the time I spent there I saw a lot of bewildered and obviously vulnerable young people who were trying to get through it. I just hope it gets better for you.

  735. I’ve posted this before, but I’ll post this again:

    For all the university-hating people out there, when you see this, leave your contact information so that we can all connect! This will help us better understand our problems and ways to solve them.

  736. haha…love the internet. Anyways, I can’t stand anymore of the bullshit I have to learn. Boring beyond belief, I feel like my brain is rotting. I’ve even contemplated going into lectures naked and pissing on the lecturer cos I’m so bored.

  737. lizzy, I’m also at King’s colege. Absolutely hate it. I know how you feel about the private school kids, I find it such an effort to socialise with them that I just avoid them completely.

  738. I actually HATE uni.
    I’m going to drop out, or defer a year just to see if I can find something more interesting!! I am at Durham so on one hand I don’t want to leave such a great place but on the other I think; who cares about the uni you went to? YOU HAVE TO BE HAPPY.
    I am going to tell my Mum as soon as I can.
    I have friends here but I just hate it, I have no interest and I m constantly depressed. I hate myself like this and it isn’t worth it.

    FUCK YOU UNI.
    BYE!!!

  739. Wow i’ve been reading all of these posts, thank god I googles ‘I hate uni’ because I was close to going insane!!
    Im near the end of my first semester in sheffield doing some bullshit p.e course that I have learnt fuck all on. So far I have learned how to do a backwards roll in gymnastics. FUcking gymnastics???? is that gonna help me get a job???? Also my course is 4 years if you want to be a teacher (the only possible outcome of this meaningless degree) but oh no the degree itself is not enough. I have to give up hours and hours a week doing volunteering in a school 20 miles from where I live 3 times a week so I can have something remotely interesting to put on my CV so I can ‘stand out’ from the 10,000 other people doing the same course as me all around the country. seriously are there that many jobs for p.e teachers going every year???

    I used to love P.E now i hate it with a passion. The lecturers are boring old farts that are laughing at us while we are forced to hand over thousands and thousands of pounds each term. If their degree is soooo great, then why are they lecturers?? surely they should be out there changing the way the country is run making an impact.. instead they are reading off powerpoints copying other peoples work.

    The people on my course are so stuck up!! they lick each others arse all day long copying each others choice phrases e.g. ‘bored is NOT the word’ WTF is that all about???? Who says that in real life fucking society?? I have made one friend since i got here and she isn’t in my class. I have to put up with these immature ignorant idiots that follow each other around like sheep. At first I tried to make friends with them but all i get is blank faces and today actually got fucking ignored when I asked a girl a question right in my face. If i wasnt at uni she would have been flat on her back begging me to ring an ambulance. never have i been treated like that before off sum girl who thinks she is better than all of us because she has done a fuckin mountain trek in mexico which she mentions every day. BULLLSHITTT.

    Im not living in halls. I was forced in to a shite building above a japanese restaurant with 14 mongs from essex who are up their own arse. I stay in my room all day because i cant be arsed making conversation with these idiots. They act like they are so great when infact they are as interesting as a 5p coin. I live with a girl who screeches for no reason at all and gets excited over things like raisins and an advert on tv. wtf is wrong with some people??? i have cut down on drinking whilst iv been here. I have no interest to go out in an unfamiliar city with a bunch of hyenas, downing watered-down cheap vodka, get a hang over, miss even more lectures, and have no money for essential things like FOOD.

    But i am here now and to quit would be a total waste of a ridiculous amount of money that i have to pay back but which i wont be able to because this country is shit and there are no jobs unless you get a piece of paper saying you can do something which you could train a monkey to do.

    So thinking about quitting at the end of the year. taking a year out. work for a while get some money behind me (i am totally broke £80 to last me over xmas in to the new year – 4 weeks away)if i find a good job il stick to it.. a good job for me is earning 20k doing anything 9-5 i dont care because i will be earning money moving on with my life!
    If i train to be a teacher what will i be doing?? stuck back in the education system with cocky kids givin me the run around all day 40k in debt on a starting salary of 19k and a whole pile of other things. I used to have a passion for teaching but uni has sucked all the life out of the subject and me. The armed forces are the way to go! serving for your country, fighting out there, making a difference, saving lives, great money and something to be PROUD of. become a hero.

    I miss my family. I miss my REAL friends. I miss my boyfriend and every day we are apart it makes me want to burst in to tears because i cant get a hug when i am low or have the company of somebody i can really talk to. Seriously uni is not all its cracked up to be!! lonliness, being skint and bored?? and for what a bit of paper.

    Advice for people thinking about quitting.. listen to your heart because that is what will make you happy. life is about being HAPPY! i would rather be happy loving life sat in some office inputting data, than being miserable like I am now just so i can earn about 5k extra a year!!!

    I’m counting down the days till I can pack my stuff and go home for xmas. 18 days and counting.

    What pisses me off the most is the friends i have left behind are having a great time living their lives, one is in cyprus working in the RAF having the time of his life. did they need a diploma? nooo!

    Because in this life it’s not WHAT you know, it’s WHO you know.. and how can you be making connections if you are stuck in a grey freezing cold lecture room making notes off powerpoint slides they put on blackboard anyway??

    rant over thanks for reading even tho most of it wont make sense lol x

  740. qwert, what are you studying at King’s?

    “I’ve even contemplated going into lectures naked and pissing on the lecturer cos I’m so bored”

    That is actually the best idea ever!! The lecturers are so up their own arses, they would deserve it!! HAHA!

  741. I’m in my first year at uni studying architecture….and its a total fuckin bitch! I love university life…..living in Glasgow, going into the university everyday, student loans but i fuckin detest some of the work. One of my tutors too…..the most horrible, evil bastard i’ve every come across. Just given up after fucking about making models for hours….so many irrelevant, pointless exercises, so little fucking time.

  742. Lizzy, glad you like my idea :) . I’m studying biomedical sciences at Guy’s campus. How bout you?

  743. for all you peeps feeling isolated and lonely: this website really helped me http://www.succeedsocially.com/sociallife check it out

  744. I’m so happy about this site, university is just a neccessary evil,it’ll probably be one of the most challenging part of our lives but it takes strenght and hardwork to persevere, at the end of it you’ll feel alot stronger and better about urself, reading the posts on this site has really giving me a good perspective on things, everyone cant be a university graduate anyway cuz then whoz gonna do the trades work?…I respect everyones work, i even tend to respect trades work more because they actually do something tangible, we could all live without marketters and investment bankers but who could live without farmers and bricklayers (They both provide food and shelter), so all in all it might pay to stay strong and get the degree but if you cant, you can still always be useful in some other constructive ways, goodluck to all

  745. @qwert: I’m studying French and German at Strand campus! I guess the lecturers are arseholes everywhere then, eh?? :p

  746. Exam time so my hatred for uni is being inflated at the moment. I’m finding it really hard to find the motivation to study for these exams, I like my major subject but am taking maths and chemistry on top of that and I really can’t be bothered with them.

    As I type this there’s a group of guys outside my window just screaming. I know they’re drunk, but we’ve all been drunk before. There’s nothing about what they are doing that is fun, it’s just all to do with being part of a unit and fitting in. It’s just so fake and immature! The amount of times I hear people talk about ‘banter’ is astounding. Banter being an organic exchange between good friends, where friendly ribbing occurs. However this has been turned into an event at university. Students ‘go out for the banter’, which is just artificially created, generic drivel between strangers, designed to create some false sense of a bond between each other. I don’t know why these guys don’t just chill out and take it easy. It’s like the students here are so desperate to collect as many friends as possible and have university life live up to the hype, that they’ll do anything.

    I hope things will be better next year when I’m living with friends who I want to be with rather than the way it is in halls. Really can’t believe how immature some of the people are, it’s like they’ve never been allowed to stay up past 11 before, just get over it and act normal. I can’t take this competitive attitude towards socialising. It is possible to have fun without everyone else having to acknowledge it.

  747. buffy on uni life:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDQz_ZGcOfw&feature=player_embedded

    Buffy:
    Every single night the same arrangement
    I go out and fight the fight.
    Still I always feel the strangest strangement
    Nothing here is real, nothing here is right.
    I’ve been making shows of trading blows
    just hoping no one knows
    That i’ve been going through the motions
    walking through the part.
    Nothing seems to penetrate my heart

    I was always brave and kind of rightous,
    Now I find I’m wavering.
    Crawl out of your grave you’ll find this fight,
    just doesn’t mean a thing.

    Vamp: She ain’t got that swing

    Buffy: Thanks for noticing!

    Vamps/Demon: She does pretty well with things from hell
    but lately we can tell she’s been going through the motions.
    Faking it somehow.
    She’s not even half the girl she….ow

    Buffy: Will I stay this way forever?
    Sleep walk through my life’s endeavor.

    Hot Guy: How can i repay you…?

    Buffy: whatever!
    I don’t want to be…
    going through the motions,
    loosing all my drive
    I can’t even see, if this is really me
    and i just want to be….
    Alive!

  748. Oh God. Talked to my mum on the phone today and she’s definitely not going to let me leave. Another 2 years and a half of this. Not sure I’ll survive it.

  749. I’m in my 3rd and final year, and I am as happy as hell that within a few months time, I can graduate and never EVER fucking return to study again!! University is not any different from school, it is just a bigger building, more corrupt, more inept and those kids you bullied you at school are now those “adults” who will, inevitably, bully you at university. I hate the way, Every-fucking-body pushes you into making friends and get involved because they will last forever (so on and so forth); as mentioned in previous comments “competitive socialising”. I never really enjoyed meeting new people because it’s scary and unpleasant. I have moved out of the country and back again and changed school at least 4 times and it’s always the same story. New peer, new meat for bullying. The point is, if you are not out getting stupidly drunk in clubs and bars every week, and “living it up to the max”, then you are automatically deemed TeH LooSERRR. Not only that, where the bloody hell is “outstanding peer support” when you most need it!? MY academic perfomance has suffered greatly in my second year because I slipped through the cracks and was not given any typ of support to help me thereafter or before. I’d rather not get started on the lecturers and professors because we’ll be here all night.

    I’ll finish with a closing statement

    FUCK YOU UNIVERSITY OF MANCHESTER!!! FUCK YOU RIGHT IN THE COCKING ARSE!!

  750. I don’t know why i am at university the people here are so stupid including my professors in computer science. I do a joint degree in Math and computer science i hate every moment of it. they look down on students taking outside interest in the respected fields like i have, i worked in research for 1.5 years and was heavily relied on in the office as sys admin and unix hacker and these are skills my uni dont teach or have any idea about now that i am back at uni they are just as stupid as i left them, the material is so random and pointless and hits so many wrong notes in computer science then in math i like math but jezz its just random topic after the other and really you never touch the shit again ever because they never go into any decent detail and its just stupid plus it is just really hard since they give you no help unless your an ass kisser. If you start designing your own programming language like i have for the last year and correct your professor in language theory they think your wierd and wrong when i know i am right since i answer people’s help on this all the time i know my shit when it comes to computer science but why does this piece of fucking paper saying i was a retarded enough to think university was worth anything. and if anything universities have become businesses simply worrying about funding and no real respect for understanding and learning about new ways of doing things and teaching topic’s fully and correctly. this is what makes queens uni belfast how crap it is i want out but so many different things on at the moment no idea whats the best thing to do. i dont even feel part of a uni when your only in 8 hours at week and about half of that is pointless math lectures that dont help and you need to get work done sometime so i never bother now ahh i could go on but its just so crap and pointless everything in my life has been fucking difficult except working full time i was even offered a funded phd already and i havent even got my degree this is how stupid this shit is…

  751. Our University is the most ridiculous establishment perhaps in the history of the world. The Monster Raving Looney Party, in comparison, look like a group of Greek philosophers. Luckily for us, we’ve landed in the worst department as well. Languages.

    We all love languages and linguistics, hence why we began to study this subject, but my, do these people know how to strange the love of anything out of one. Instead of teaching us grammar and building our ability to communicate in the language, our learning rotates instead around our capacity to do various mind-numbing exams that have no practical application whatsoever. It isn’t about how good your language skills are in our laughable alma mater, but how formulaic one’s responses to trite, uneducational subjects are.

    We have the least funding in our entire school. Business students have their own building, free drinks, 6 or 7 24/7 access labs and are generally treated like Lords. We don’t even have a computer room that is open for more than the equivalent of 2 days out of 7 each week. When we complain, we are sent to the open access lab which the business schmucks use as their loud room. Our library is a disgrace to the name itself; our fellow students are petulant, faux-aristocratic twats who buy new outfits because their newly-bought Parisian shoes do not match. They are hyperverts who delight in imposing themself on any silence. They are as 3-dimensional as a line on a piece of paper. They have nothing to say, but yet never cease to speak.

    Our University is built around, and caters to them exclusively. Heaven forbid that you are introverted even in the slightest; the exams, built around being an extrovert more than being a linguist, will get you down at the first hurdle.

    If our University were not bad enough, it makes going to one of their even more crooked foreign colleagues obligatory. The extroverts love this, obviously. Hurrah to no free will. This University turns out to be even less well-managed and completely unorganised, with classes disappearing of moving buildings, and no pastoral help whatsoever. It is several months into our year here, and we are absolutely screwed. It has been impossible to follow the course because we’re living in a gypsy ghetto miles away and we have had swine flu countless times. Our University laughably sends us an email shaped bollocking telling us that we should go to the doctors (well duh, as if we didn’t?) and that we should lug our laundry 8 miles into town. Yes, that’s something that we forgot to mention hitherto – we are living like 19th century peasants. Washing our clothes by hand. Baking our own food because the Spaniards’ is disgusting and one-tone, &c.

    WE WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE. FUCK!! Somehow we’ll have to learn six subjects in a matter of weeks – which would be fine, if there were six subjects to choose from. This year is abominably shit; all the while, our extroverted acquaintances are having the time of their lives. Of course they are.

    We have been dumped here because our university is too shite to be able to teach languages; and so they throw us into SPAIN (NO CHOICE ABOUT GOING ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE SPANISH-SPEAKING WORLD, OH NO!), expecting us to learn the language by ourselves, by speaking. See the shift in onus? Hey, if I had known that I would not be taught the language and expected to learn it through being a fucking extrovert abroad, we never would have gone to University in the first place!! We’ll go back, linguistically impoverished; the extroverts, of course, will have made thousands of friends and gained the language with ease.

    Both Universities are shitter than shit on a stick. We want to go home, and to a different University, if there were one that was less unfathomably terrible than ours. Fuck the Vice-Chancellor.

  752. University is full of two face motherfucking hypocrites and retarded people who have nothing better to do then go clubbing over and over again….get a life you fucking Bitches…

  753. i sooo hate uni.. d’ont even know why i’m doing this stupid degree, as I totally hate it, wish I could just drop out even though first semester is nearly over, got 2 assignment deadlines in a days time havent even started them, d’ont even have the motivation to do them. why the hell did i ever chose to study accounting and finance..

  754. God, I’m so confused about University. Tomorrow, I have an Exam and I haven’t even studied! Although, its English so I’m not terribly worried. But, I’m worried about the fact that I have no motivation to study at all. I read all these messages where people say their stressed about school. Seriously, it feels like my school work is not that hard, but I cant seem to do it. I honestly hate University. Why do we all feel obligated to follow society and earn some piece of paper telling us that were smart. By the time school’s done, were gonna have to get jobs and start paying bills; like my OSAP. When can we really start living? I’m second year- and I just want to drop out and do something else. Shit, I use to be so creative; singing, drawing…now, because I listened to my parents about earning a BA, I’ve lost all my creativity. I’m in total identity crisis. There has to be more to life. I truly envy those people who say fuck you to conformity and live their lives the way they want. If I could do anything, I wish I could ignore all social conformity and DO what I want in life.

  755. A first year writes… I’ve never been as low as I have these past few weeks. I asked to be excused from the coming exams in order to regroup over the holidays. To work out whether it’s the course, the university, the city or just me that’s the cause of my blues. Then maybe work out how I can adapt and put a smile back on my face. The response? ‘Computer says no’. I hate university.

  756. This is possibly the most reassuring site Ive come across!

    I really hate uni been here for 3 months and its the worst place ever.
    I got into the uni that i wanted to and was so excited when I arrived but just everything about this place is dire.
    I was expecting to find really enthusiastic interesting people who I would get on really well with, instead all Ive found are people who are either only interested in getting laid or so rapped up in their careers that they manipulate everyone.
    I have to do three subjects in my first year and i feel like im back at 6th form doing subjects i hate which has made me even more demotivated to do the subject i really enjoy. and even then this uni has moved me onto a different course because not enough people are doing the course ive applied to.
    I joined societies but the sporting ones take themseleves to seriously and the others are just rapped up in insignificant politics.

    This isnt what i wanted to be doing.
    ive talked to my parents and my dad went mental at me and now i feel i cant quit otherwise i would be letting him down

    i totally feel like the failiure of the family as my cousins have just got into oxford and cambridge and really enjoying themselves

    dont feel like i will be ever good enough for them

    Ive always wanted to travel and see more of the world and help people, like volunteering abroad with charities and stuff but i dont want to get screwed over by a company that charges me to much and dumps me somewhere.

    I think if i had a proper plan then my parents would be happier with me leaving but i just cant decide on what to do
    and i havent got the motivation to do any of the work here
    :/
    so yer this is not really good times

  757. Andyo_09@live.co.uk – Need to talk to somebody about university. Its driving me nuts. I am 19 and dropped out of humanities at Hertfordshire before the course even begun… What kinda life can I expect with a degree like that? McDonalds and a wife that should be on Jeremy Kyle… Im so confused… University claims to broaden the mind.. It only narrows it. **** university. I might just study Archaeology sept 2010 like I should have in the first place.

  758. University of York

    UNIVERSITY OF YORK ACCOMMODATION OFFICE IS THE SHITTEST IN THE WORLD.

    INCOMPETENT BASTARDS.

  759. OMG.

    I am so so happy I found this website after searching “I hate university” into google. What joy this forum has brought me!

    I thought I was the only one out there that was unhappy. I had such high expectations which is why I think I hate it so much. I thought that people would both work and go out every so often. Not go out every single night and be pricks by coming home loud every night when I actually am here to learn. At the end of the day I want a degree and by going out every night it clearly won’t be achieved. However, none of my flat mates seem to do any work and then I look really boring.

    The lecturers seem pretty shit. The notes they give are just pure crap. A monkey could do their job.

    I am sooooooo happy its only 11 days till I break up for Christmas- then its going to be 3 weeks of pure happiness for a bit… until I come back!

  760. waste of money and time, dont know where my 3.2 k a year goes, might as well requested a reading list and sat at home teaching myself. FUCK UNI, DONT BOTHER KIDS, YOULL FUCKING REGRET IT AND REALISE ITS NOT FOR YOU WHEN ITS TOO LATE. E.G. THE FINAL YEAR WHEN SUDDENLY YOURE EXPECTED TO KNOW YOUR SHIT EVEN THOUGH THE UNIVERSITY HASNT INCLUDED THE RELEVANT MODULES PREVIOUSLY AND JUST READS AT YOU RATHER THAN TEACHING FUCKING ANYTHING. FULL OF USELESS WANKERS, DIE. only good thing is being able to piss about for a few years instead of working the 9-5, but that soon looses its charm once youve been out several billion times.

  761. Theresonly1ash

    I too like some here, had expectations, and just my luck, it didnt quite happen, but i was strong enough to keep going, i still hate it to the point i am no longer attending lectures and the assessments can sometimes make you feel inadequate although i pull through in the end. there are some here who believe we all want a roller coster ride with a silver spoon in our mouths and if we cant hack uni, we wont hack life itself! what a load of shite, when you hate something, you hate something, your disagreement is not gonna change the fact we feel this way, if there is change in circumstances then we will take it with stride, everyones different and we are here on this site to share our similar interest, take yours somewhere else

  762. After reading through several of these responses it appears a lot of people have experienced the mindset I had during my first year. Unfortunately the more you think about your dissatisfaction at University, the worse it gets, so try to lighten up people regardless of the circumstances.

    It’s not worth writing my story as its pretty similar to everyone elses here, though I do have friends at Uni. What I will contribute is what I’ve learnt and am pretty sure about.

    1. If you have only been at University for a few months and don’t feel you’ve made any good friends, do not worry! Just keep pressing on and trying, soon you’ll realise you have a lot more in common with some people than originally thought.

    2. Do not stay in your room!

    3. No, really, do not stay in your room!

    4. Realise that if your not at university then you’ll most likely be in a monotonous mindless job living with your parents, and so really where you are now is the lesser evil.

    5. Just because other people appear to be enjoying themselves, they are NOT wankers, cunts, pricks bla bla, regardless of their background, its easy to feel that when you see other people happy but it’s just not true. A lot of them will be decent people, though I’m sure some will inevetibly be wankers.

    Those are just a few things I did to make things more tolerable. I’m currently in second year of a six year course so if you guys think your fucked, at least you aren’t in my shoes!

    Anyways to avoid rambling on anymore, ask yourself whether your really giving it 100% to make things better, if so then fair enough, get the fuck out of uni. I know I’m probably only giving 20%! It’s just easy to slip in a cynical state of mind and kid yourself that everything is rubbish, so give it a proper go before you conclude it’s awful.

    Despite all this I do have to agree that University has been a huge disappointment but you’ve just gotta make the most of things, get your degree and stop complaining.

    P.S For the minority who have posted weird shit like shooting people and blowing buildings up – what the fuck?

  763. York University over here in Canada sucks so bad. It’s just annoying that most of my science professor doesn’t seems to know what they are doing. Instead they are confusing student even more. I have a Philosophy exam am required to write 5 essays within 2hours. What on earth are these professors thinking. They indeed make life miserable for people. A friend of mind just graduated with a Biomedical Science Honour she has been looking for a job like a crazy woman and am like what kind of a thing is this.
    I was a first class student in my university year back home in Nigeria where Professor teach instead of reading. Over here, most of our lecturers are just reading slide and not teaching. I hate university over here because you’re all alone, you are required to teach yourself. All lecturers are doing is to read slide to you. Infact its really boring like hell. I don’t want to go back there anymore.

    African Professor are the best. They don’t read slide to you as they do over here in Canada, they teach you, they get the information to you and trust me people are doing well
    Am going to continue my university education in Nigeria not for anything, I really want to enjoy my University life. I am tired and bored with this boring way of teaching here at York University. It is sooooooooo boring and it’s just a waste of OSAP funding.
    Back home, education is affordable, I can’t finish my degree with little as 10,000 dollars and after it I will be off to Coop and from Coop, Youth Service
    Education is important guys please don’t give up. Whichever way you want to do it please study.
    As for me, I am going back to Nigeria to finish my Medicine and will come and do my Residency in California. York University sciences really sucks

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  765. University makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a spoon… :-s

  766. i feel like there’s two aspects to uni which make me hate it, there’s the academic aspect and there’s the social aspect. The academic aspect makes it shitty for me because the lectures are so boring, just 50 minutes straight of pure monotone talking from the professor and a stupid slideshow and constant note taking, i can barely stomach it let alone stay awake. Then after the shitty lecture your expected to read a ridiculous amount of pages per week of the stuff they shove down your throat at lectures! and to top it all of there’s the extremely lame tutorials which are awkward because they’re filled with folks you dont know and yet AGAIN they shove down your throats the horrors you endured in lecture and in books and then the icing on the cake is there are 5 classes in total so 5 sets of ANNOYING lectures, readings and tutorials, oh yea and throw the assignments you have to do in the mix as well….the academic side of university disturbs me in so many ways it’s so mechanical and soulless, i came with an open mind and i put up with it but i can only tolerate the grey atmospheric lectures for only so long. That set aside, the social aspect is the other half to why i can’t stand this place. When first arriving the people are driven by fear to flock together, just like their old towns they only got by through the buddy system through making their “herds”, oldest trick in the history of man strength in number. Find people, start talking about how much you got hammered and drunk back in your old town then base your false relationships off shallow values and hobbies you share. Everyones trying to show off, everyone addresses eachother in this FAKE persona, screaming at the top of their lungs just to say hey to a guy they JUST met, its like a pack of dogs trying to see who can bark the loudest its pitiful…people are afraid to show weakness, afraid to show any signs of fear that they left home, all that is on their agenda is, get the grade, get laid and then get drunk at the end of the week. I kept an open mind, just as i did for the academics, i didnt put myself into some bubble of negativity, the reality was this place wasn’t a comfortable environment for me to be myself. I’ve heard all the tips before about being strong, having patience bla bla if this isn’t a place where i feel happy because im surrounded by indifferent people fueled by the norms here and academics that are so dry and repetitive then i don’t believe time and patience will change these two aspects the only thing that needs to change is YOU. Here’s the real tip to university enjoyment, CHANGE YOURSELF, put on the false identity of some yappy dog that barks loudly and acts like a wino only obssessed with getting hammered. If you want fun, put on a smile when you enter your lectures and pretend like you actually enjoy this mechanical method of shoving useless information down your throats, pretend like your family meant nothing to you and you can forgot them in mere months and lastly pretend like it will be a jolly good time trying to pay off your student debts when you leave your new paradise which we like to call university.

  767. Its almost 3am.
    I have an essay that was due yesterday.
    Im still not done.
    Never before in my life have I been so worn down, so beaten down, and so hateful towards life. Nothing in this world has ever sucked the life, the soul, the human out of me.
    University however, has.
    I have friends.
    None seem to offer much help.
    I complain.
    They listen.
    It really gets me no where.
    Except for maybe becoming annoying to my friends.
    My bank account has been sucked dry. and will be sucked dry for many many years to come.
    why?
    all for university. something that I hate with more passion than I have ever had for anything in my life.
    Im over it.
    Im a year and a half in and Im over it.
    Those who say its the best years of our lives? Clearly have never been to university.
    So fuck you University. FUCK YOU

  768. Koni4iwa!No i`m not from Japan.

    I HATE MY UNIVERSITY!
    FUCK!
    Why should i do this FUCKING research ?????? I HATE RESEARCH!!!!!!!
    I just want to do what i want to do, to create, to design!
    This FUCKING university is only put me off creativity!
    NOW I HATE DESIGN! I HATE EVERYTHING!
    IM JUST SCREAMING FOR CHANGE!
    They FORCE us to do, but i can`t do smth if i dont like it and don`t want it to do!

    “This is the end for you my friend”(c)

  769. i have never in my entire life been soo depressed or unhappy . all my life i was made to believe that university life was the best, that it would be the best years of my life, well , in contrast its the worst. I have to wake up every morning to go to uni , and trust me those morning are fulled with anxiety and depression. I now feel that i no longer have a life and that the course is just not that exciting as i thought it would be. I can’t reallt explain to anyone how depressed i am due to uni. I hate the people and the teaching methods and everything else that comes with university. I really need help or i feel that i might have a mental breakdown.

  770. THIS PLACE IS FULL OF BASTARDS! uni has changed me into such a depressing person, i hate it. I never used to be like this. I came to uni with expectations of a new exciting stage in my life; meeting new people, learning new stuff and to grow as a person but all it’s given me is anger and hate over everything around me. I think university treat you like shit. They realise how much stress and strain everyone is under from constant work, bills, loans, moving away from home or whatever troubles yet they dont seem to give a fuck and continue to treat you like a prisioner.
    So im not putting up with this life any longer. It’s my life and i dont want to look back on it with regrets that i didnt change my life sooner.
    I’m getting a job, maybe do some travelling, live at home for a bit, who knows!
    but university is DEFINITELY NOT for everyone and if your not enjoying something, then there is always time to change your life to make yourself happier. Don’t listen to what others say, It’s your life!

  771. University sucks….

    ….but sex is awesome! (or so I’ve heard)

  772. Hey everyone, I am so glad I found this site. It seems a lot of people decide one day to randomly type “I hate university” into Google!

    Anyway, my situation is kind of different from most I have read here. I actually was fine my first and second years at university. I didn’t make a ton of close friends, but I managed to get pretty good grades, a small group of friends, and a girlfriend. Things were pretty good. At the beginning of third year, I got a new girlfriend, and I was looking forward to going on an exchange to Sweden. Things were really good. I went on exchange and it was the best time of my life. Came home and have been depressed ever since. Can’t function normally, cant sleep properly, no energy, cant get motivated….and I think the root of it is that while on exchange, I realized that there is so much more to life than studying accounting, which is my major. I met so many interesting people and did so many great things while on exchange, then I came home and the routine and redundancy of life in Ottawa, going to uni every day, it just wore me down. I am not on anti-depressants, talking to a counselor, and I was doing better until exams came.

    All this semester I have been struggling with finding the motivation to get my work done, but slowly it started to fade. I didn’t do my readings, didn’t pull my weight in group work, skipped more and more classes, eventually got exams and assignments deferred because I went to the doctor and told her all this, and she told me I was depressed. I blame university for my depression. I enjoyed it at first because I didn’t really know anything else. Well, I didn’t particularly enjoy it, but it was good. And I had the exchange to look forward to; I had been wanting to go to Sweden since high school. But I think when I was on exchange, my eyes were just opened to something new, something better. When I came back to the monotony of uni life in Ottawa, I couldn’t handle it. I love how you hear all this about the so-called “real world” all throughout your life. I think I had a taste of the real world while on exchange. At least, how I want my real world to be. And now that I am back at school, exchange behind me, I feel like I have nothing to look forward to, and I hate it.

    Marks used to be important to me. I am not a straight A student, but I used to always strive for an A- or an A. I got a C+ once, my worst mark, and I was pretty upset. But this year, I just don’t give a damn. I am in fourth year accounting and I absolutely hate it. I have had three exams so far, and I don’t think I have gotten more than 60% on any of them. I really don’t care how to consolidate financial statements – it has no relevance to my life. I have decided that I don’t wish to pursue any kind of accounting designation or a career in accounting, which makes it hard to care about income tax and corporate finance. Fucking such useless shit. Not to mention all the people around me, all doing co-op, about to go on their work terms. I couldn’t help but laugh when I was on exchange in Sweden, traveling and meeting new people, and my friends were going to work in an office. I plan on going tree planting for the first time this summer, I am really determined to do it, and I know its going to be hell, but even waking up in the morning, sore back, sore legs, blisters, tired, rainy….at least I’m not spending my summer wearing a suit and sitting at a desk. I just hate that in high school, you get the idea that going to university will open doors and be a great thing…but its not. They program you to be a certain way, and at least in my accounting program, I find that the way its set up is that so you end up going from Point A to Point B. Once you graduate, you get a job, get your hours, get your designation, and ta-da, you are an accountant. That doesn’t seem like many open doors to me.

    Anyway, I don’t know where else to go with this. I am going to finish the degree because I am almost done…just two semester. Even if it is just a stupid little piece of paper, I will at least have something to show for all the time and effort I put in. But then I am gone….going tree planting, see what opportunities arise there. Going to do a college program in something that interests me, something hands on, something PRACTICAL and USEFUL, unlike the bullshit you learn in uni.

    I remember in high school always hearing that “university will teach you how to think for yourself.” Anyone else hear that? Maybe I’m the only one. But that statement is so false. University tries to teach you how to think like them. Only if you are smart enough to see through this bullshit and resist it, do you learn how to think for yourself. But the university doesn’t teach you this…YOU do.

    So hang in there everyone! If someone actually read this whole post, thank you! I am so glad I found this site. University sucks, and if you can hack it, you can hack it. If you can’t, nothing to be ashamed of. Just go on to try something else. If that isn’t for you, just keep looking until you find it!

    And always remember, there are much worse positions you could be in.

    That being said, university fucking sucks.

  773. oops, mistake in my post. I wrote “I am not on anti-depressants”…thats a typo. Supposed to say I am NOW on anti-depressants.

  774. Theysayjustdoit

    Damn, aimi and mogi i’m in sync with you two, I HATE RESEARCH with a passion, you never get to throw out ur own idea, just wrewrite what some other expert said, mogi i’m in gloomy ottawa also, sweden must have been sweet and liberating, a year and a half into studying commerce

  775. Do u know what I hate most about uni? the professors…incompetent, self important assholes who never learned to exist outside of academia. I swear most of the male ones are complete arrogant douche bags who wouldn’t last a day outside of the campus’ they so desperately cling to. Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!! (now I have a headache)

  776. i hate uni, it is a total waste of time. The people are lame, the course is boring, the social life is shit. ARGHH….i should have just got a job after highschool; i don’t think i’ve gained anything positive from uni other than a death to my self confidence, having the displeasure of knowing arrogant stuck up people and worst of all, being taught by people who may be amongst the best in the field but totally retarded when it comes to communicating this information in leymans terms – BASTARDS!

  777. i hate ucl! full of toffs and private school people – they smell funny.

  778. Uni is a pain in my ass… I mean there are some aspects of my life i enjoy but uni isnt one of them. Haven’t met many nice ppl and the rest are all arrogant because they go to a “top uni” but in my opinion is the biggest piece of shit ever :)

  779. Oh another thing… i ahte how in my uni.. like if you want to speak to someone its only general chatter. With me i like to have a laugh and not talk about uni work all the time so i bring better topics (in my opinion) to chat about but i just get weird looks…. uni is not like the real world… not at all

  780. in my uni people only come to you if they need help. They use you. That is another reason why I hate uni people. Whatever happened to just being friendly and coming for a chat? the douchebags!

  781. I HATE UNI !!!!!!!!!!!

  782. Stop bitching weaklings! Suck it up and get on with it!

  783. kingStoner, f off back to your toff uni; this world needs needs less cocky, stuck up twats like thouself. No run along back to your wine parties or whatever elitest things u do.

    I HATE UNI ARRGHHHHHH…what a crap life.

  784. fuck the bourgeosie, uni is mind fuck. Pockets of specialized knowledge are fucking stupid. Students are stupid and boring. uni sucks cock.

  785. Nicely put oli i agree i find the jokes they find funny utterly boring whereas people in my gym ( my local one) even though they are older they are wayy better to talk to just wish they were my age :P

    I also agree with the pockets of knowledge… whats the point ? I think a NVQ is more useful .. well in the real world atleast not if you want to do research… :|

  786. Oh i was reading other posts by Lizzy and im like the same as her kinda ( just a different university -UCL) Its honestly full of private school people who only know how to socialise by getting wasted which is not kool (in my books anyway). Its just reassuring to know there are loads of other people in the same boat as me!

    Im in the 3rd year but on a 4 year course but decided to quit after this year as i cant take it any more. Dont care about any work I do and i see everyone else on the course stressing out and making soo much effort .. makes me feel weird?

    I used to think its the fact its UCL that i hate and though its partially true and may have been happier at another uni i can honestly say now… i dont want to find out! Just sick of uni and the type of ppl ive met!!! :(

    But the future looks bright and in the 5 months i have left ill be crying with joy till i finally leave this shit hole!!!!!!!!!! :P

  787. I am soooo glad i found this website! I am in a top 15 UK uni studying something which is rated as one of the 3 top course providers in its field in the world! I did my A levels in one year (not 2) and got 4 A-Bs in respected subjects with 60% attendence so i must be intelligent to a degree (although i rarely feel it). It is my first year at uni and it took me 2 goes to get my a levels (i became ill the first time and half heartedly did my exams in hospital). I hate studying, i always have but am willed on by coments of ‘he fell at the last hurdel’ ‘no will power’ etc and also the fact i am getting my family to pay my rent as i have a dependent friend who cant get funds to study and is the studying type(my parents are only supporting me as i am at uni). I am sort of stuck untill the end of the year when my friend can get funding. I think i will drop out, this is not for me and i can make it without this! This forum really helped! Thanks everyone : )

  788. man, what a crap holiday…If there were decent people at ucl i’d be out right now, but the people are so lame i’m stuck at home with nought to do. Meh. Can’t wait till uni’s out and i’m in the real world. Might join the RAF or just go travelling. Hopefully i wont have the displeasure of seeing ne more toffs about. Hopefully they’ll all stay in uni and keep out of the way of normal people, woop!

    Peace people, go watch Avatar – apparently it’s wicked. Merry x-mas to u all!

  789. im so lonely in university, life rly went downhill 4 me dammm i miss the days when i was a happy young kid, everyday i would wake up with a smile on my face and now everyday i wake up its like arghh. i just hope that one day ill be that happy young kid again. n univeristy aint helping just making shit more boring and more arghhh-like. SUMMER I CANT WAIT FOR U WHERE THE FUCK IS U SUMMER!!!

  790. p.s. canadian university sucks i dunno how it is in other countries but trust me canadian universities are dullllllllll and omg i dun wanna think about it, the nightmares..

  791. r canadian uni’s like american ones? I hear american uni’s rock! I’m at a UK uni and they really suck here!

  792. is it hard to get a 2.1 at uni in business?

  793. Yer i also heard American uni rockss but my uni experience here in the UK has put me off soo much i wouldn’t go anywhere now .. ust wait for it to be over in 5 months and leave

  794. I went to uni in the UK in the late 80′s and have to say, it was no different then – apart from being financially lot easier – it was hateful!! I found 95% of the other students complete stuck up, unpleasant, self-absorbed, pretentious c***s; the work boring and the lecturers disconnected.

    Still, the career i have subsequently followed would not have been possible had I not put up with that s**** for 4 years.

  795. well i finally got out and i am pretty dam happy, all i can say is university is overrated and made out to be some spectacular experience but its all a sham so the institution can make some big cash off everyone, its crappy lectures with information you wont remember or barely apply when you get out and theres NOTHING sacred about the education, ANYONE can walk in a lecture hall and sit down and listen in, the only difference after 4 or 8 years of the program is that you get the piece of paper but in the end you can both have the same divine university knowledge that is supposedly worth thousands of dollars, all i gotta say is the world is out to make cash and uni is an example of how they play off our emotions and desires to be successful and put university on a pedestal that everyone tries to reach and therefore wastes hard earned money, its all a joke, a complete joke, follow your heart and you will be whatever you dream.

  796. Well done Johnny!!! I would leave… but i only have 5 months left of this crap!! so ill just leave then :)
    I love how everyone is like nowadays you need a degree to do a good job but its totally false… sure it will help but the jobs ive been applying for as a soon to be graduate are soo boring so its not worth it!
    My mum is fine about my situation she sees me everyday upset and says just finish whenever you want (which i will) but other people are like ” NO U NEED TO DO MORE” i mean they are soo trapped in a university/student bubble they need to honestly get a life ( even tho uni has ruined mine i still hate the student life)

    Well good luck all …

  797. I’ve hated uni pretty much since the first day, but it’s 2-and-a-bit years later and I’ve only got 5 months left (I go back next week). What does it feel like to finish? Do those last few months go nice and fast or do they drag on?

    I wish I quit in my first week when I had the chance, just 5 months left…

  798. I got into my Human Rights/Law program in 2006 and studied my ass off. From then until 2009 I ended up failing most of my classes but getting A+ in four or five of them. How can I be so smart in one respect but completely inept in another within the same subject? If you ask me the best way to kill a passion is to study it.

  799. There are several things that I find completely infuriating about university.

    I am in my first year, but I’m in my early 20′s. I thought I’d go back to education and try and make a go of it for myself, and I chose a subject that I assumed would give me career prospects without ‘killing my passion’ for the creative things that I really love doing.

    Most of the people on my course are around my age, yet they insist on acting in a completely schoolish manner, forming cliques and intentionally excluding people, such as myself, who are perfectly confident, just don’t feel the need to say EVERYTHING that they are thinking out loud, or prove that they are witty and intelligent.

    When in my personal tutorial, my tutor suggested that I had learning difficulties(I blatantly don’t), and this is after speaking to me for five minutes and meeting me once before. I think this is insensitive and unprofessional, particularly as I’d only been at Uni for a month, so there is bound to be an adjustment period.

    To top it all off, the teaching is just crap. There’s spelling/grammatical/factual errors on most of my lecture slides and most of the units are completely different to how they were described in the syllabus when I applied, apparantly due to a ‘course re-design’ that they neglected to tell us was going to happen.

    Bloody hell.

  800. what should i take from de morgan’s law of logic it suck i haven’t for 2 days just drinking coffees & Smoking about 50 cigarettes & studying this freaking logic & still don’t understand anything i think if the university is sucks the whole education sucks more

  801. Hi you lot, its very encouraging to see so many people think in this way. I, myself attended university for one year, in which I lived a pretty standard student year. I successfully passed the course for year one, but had feeling of such un-fulfillment that I had to get out.

    So I got some job at AVIVA working in insurance, and met some great people from all walks of life, not just dumb students. Someone mentioned it earlier that you don’t get anywhere in life with good education, the only real way to break free from societies clutches is to be rich. Therefore after reading “Felix Dennis’: How To Get Rich” I have started my own business. And let me tell you making actual money is sooo much more fulfilling than listening to some mono-tone lecturer with the hope you may get a degree, and that degree may get you a job.

    University is just a way to delay your’e adult life. Sure, if you wanna piss around for an extra 3 years go to uni. But from my point of view now as an employer I look down upon people who went to Uni cos its a complete cop-out. Thanks for letting m share my story with like-minded people.

  802. I am a second year student studying Accounting and Finance. I hate it! I live at home and travel to Uni (this is a good thing – I don’t feel like I am missing out on anything by not having the “Uni lifestyle”)

    I hate the fact that there is such a gulf in teaching methods employed by the lecturers! For example, my Finance lecturer is great, I look forward to his lectures because they are informative and enjoyable. Whereas other lectures such as Microeconomics and Marketing are made so dull and boring because of the way the professors drone on monotonously. This inevitably effects the marks in the modules. Crap lecturer = crap marks!

    I wish I had the bottle to leave and start-up a business of my own. I have a good idea for a business but I don’t want to go against the society norm and be regarded as a drop-out!

    Thats why I hate University so much!

  803. Well its my first day back since the Christmas break and i already have a headache and feel very angry and depressed.. this is not good for me but ill stick it out another 5 months get a degree then do some stuff ive finally got the guts to do :)

    With regards for Anto’s post, I dont think its against society to be a drop out .. i just havent yet coz i only have 5 months left if i felt like this before (strong feeling) i would have just left.. :)

  804. I am in my first year and went back to uni yesterday. Im 24 and am finding it hard to listen to people telling me their opinions rather than facts, and then when I do an assignment it has to fulfill their opinions which I dont agree with!!!!
    I HATE UNI soo soo much. maybe im not the right sort of person to go to uni, im sure there must be a ‘sort’ which im not one of.
    I have no problem leaving, try everything once right? only problem is, what the hell do i do otherwise?? grrr uni sucks

  805. This is my second attempt at studying for a degree, and it turns out it’s even more ill-advised than my first. In 2005 I began a languages degree at an institution in the north of England, almost by default. “You’re good at langauges”, they told me in sixth form. “Besides which, everyone goes to uni. You have to. It’s just what people your age do”. I believed them. During my one year there I attended approximately 20% of classes, handed in about the same percentage of assignments and had the organisational skills of a packet of Quavers. I neglected several rent payments and got pissed pretty much every night. Why? Because I knew a lot of people. Acquaintances, not really friends, it should be stressed. And I thought I was enjoying a happy social life. So, knowing full well I wasn’t going back for the second year, I got a menial job in a supermarket to pay off the money I owed them, and three years later enrolled on a course in another northern establishment, thinking I’d grown up and that I could put my mind to any course whatsoever.

    Lots of you have described how soul-destroying you find your courses and I have to admit I’m in the same boat but not because I find it pointless or difficult or irrelevant. It’s because the one semester I’ve completed so far has completely repulsed me from the idea of a career in the media. The social side of things here are far worse. There are literally four or five people here I can just about tolerate but even then I have little in common with them. Someone tell me, why does every student on the planet spend 27 hours a day on Facebook, listen to nothing but the Arctic Monkeys and dress identically in tight black jeans and a red/black/white chequered shirt? Why, whenever I enter the Students’ Union, am I met with the same people sitting in the same groups talking about the same shit, feeling unable to permeate the arbitrary social boundaries that seem to exist? Some people gained unauthorised access to our flat the other day, stole the beer from our fridge, racially abused my friend’s boyfriend and trashed our kitchen – tell me now, what the hell are narrow-minded dickheads like these doing at university at all? I had a tutorial at 9:00am this morning, and lying in bed at 4:30am, rather than the serene silence of the foothills of Wales, all I could hear was Axl Rose screaming at me from a stereo next door, easily loud enough to wake up the entire street. This is not down to my own inability to make friends. I’ve managed to do this everywhere else I’ve ever been, fairly easily as well, but this takes the piss. I was far happier stacking shelves. I’m going to finish this year and go back to where my real friends are, because if I don’t it’s going to be a very expensive year with very little to show for it.

  806. This is why you might want to take on Uni (UK)

    - Something like 10% of the population own 90% of the wealth

    - The population optimum is recommended at 30 million; so as young people we have to deal with this…

    - You need £20/25 a day to live minimum, if you can achieve this by yourself you can leave Uni.

    - It is easier to achieve this amount working in a group and as such a degree is simply a confirmation that you can offer standard skills to companies hiring

    - Doing a degree is FREELANCE study this is a GIFT. You should be doing your degree work straight off & easily have time to do you own passion: it is this ‘extra’ that will set you ahead of the curve & allow you to set-up and run your own company later

  807. omg this website is great !!!!!!!!!!! im glad im not the only one who feels this way … so im skiving off revision atm but i cant wait to finish uni .. i do think its overrated and i probably should have gotten a job straight away but instead i ended up here .. i guess its just part of life i am not bitter or anything but i do feel like hum so im sitting here on my butt for 12 hours a day reading studying and doing all this stuff when really i wanna be out and about in the real world and be busy with my friends with my boyfriend have kids and get married start a life and you know just have a real life but arggggh well like many of you guys i got 5 months left so !!! bring it on !!!!!!!!!1

  808. Completely agree with Jade. I’ve just had an assignment back and got a 3rd. She was giving me all this crap about words I would use and how personally she wouldn’t have chosen them. Sorry I thought the assignment was written by me? I hate my university, it is nothing like I thought it would be and I am so disappointed. I’ve got a year and a half left and I know it’s going to drag. What’s worse is I don’t live here so have to travel an hour to sit in lectures which have NO motivation at all. They might as well just give us the presentations to take home and read, them being there is just pointless…..:( I wish I had just got a job. The whole persona about having to have a degree to get anywhere in life is total crap. My brother barely scraped through his GCSE’s and he is now a millionnaire. My dad only has GCSE’s and runs his own company. I think this image of university has just been driven into people’s minds as usual by the flaming government. Roll on 2011! xxx

  809. for me, it’s mostly my grades that scare the living hell out of me. the tests and papers and the constant “race” to keep up with readings literally scare me half to death. I don’t know if that’s weird or I’m just being a cry baby but I can’t help it. On top of that, there’s seriously something wrong with my energy levels cause it seems like i can’t function without at least 12 hours of sleep…I know I shouldn’t be scared but just the thought of failing a course would probably drive me to suicide (im not joking)

  810. Sounds like you need a holiday.. Why are you up at 05:22 in the morning lol this is when you should sleep. What about going for a run or taking up some exercise? Give yourself something else to focus on other than uni. It drives me mad to be stuck there and expected to produce work which they contradict themselves on later thus failing you. Art’s a shit hard place to make it in. So, i’m doing things outside of uni to distract myself. Things that get me excited and want to stick around for! Was knocked back today and currently in such a horrible place that I fight everything from my course to my accommodation to my job. It doesnt seem like its going to end. But i’ll get there. Once again i’l fight it 2moro and hopefully they’l listen and realise. If not, I’ll leave. I’ll find a different course.. one where my tutors turn up and dont contradict their own advice or give you none and slate you later. What kind of crap is that. This seems like a good place to vent..

  811. what is it that makes us go to uni? accident? hope? something to do? feels like we should? delay to the real world? all of the above?

    hmmm..university is good for us. it makes us think which is not a bad thing, gives us the abilty to question things, start to sort our heads out and do things off our own backs. we meet other fuckers in the world, meet lots of people, think we are the only ones who cannot take the world as it is, then realise that there are many more who are out there thinking the same things, unhappy happiness takes over. comply, tick the boxes, fuck the world, win prizes, sneer from behind the pint glass. smile like a blind fucker, shake hands with the smug. thinking bad good useful unuseful thoughts are only ever good if we are able to do something with them, otherwise what are they but disused thoughts into the sock of joy. enough ranting, time to do.

  812. fellowtraveller

    Hello fellow victims. I also googled “I hate university”. This was after learning that “university is a cult” didn’t turn up anything very interesting.

    I’m in my last semester. And all I’ve learned is anger and regret. Not because it wasn’t objectively successful. But just because it made me die inside.

  813. I hate uni all the people here are so fake. If u look good then no matter what u say, insults bad mouthing people its ok. if ur not fit then u must say all the pleasant things, and never bad mouth or say anything bad.
    the work is a mental , u can’t seem to on top of it.
    what i hate most about uni is facebook, u know haw popular u are if no one comments on ur status.
    living out of halls is even worse the people who i live with three other girls seems to be picking up new guys practically on a weekly basis. its hard to work scratch that even sleep with moaning and creaking coming from next store.
    from first year i decided to join more sports to meet people, its still the same, if ur good looking or great at the sport then ur going to be social, i hate uni no wonder so many people quit or turn to drugs for the way out.

  814. I agree with kate and tango…. .. iI too am also focusing on other things to keep my mind of it such as my hobbies (gym) and planned my summer already where ill go traveling alone :) get me out of here so its a good thing.
    And yer if you’re “fit” every1 likes u is soo shit i mean w.e. good for them but there are nicer fitter girls at my gym who are nice people thats what u call fit! … tbh i dont really get on with any1 at my uni except for a few guys and i have no social life as i dont associate myself with any one here.. just can wait to leave everyday it just gets worse but again im saying ONLY 5 MONTHS LEFT!!!!

  815. I’m so fucking tired of uni.I know that it’s awesome for some people and I have made some quality friends here but I can’t stand the ridiculous way things are done. So much bueracracy and whatnot,life is too fucking short for this crap.

  816. University … let me see!

    I have been told from a young age, by those around me who have shaped my life (parents, teachers, the media, society) that university is the way forwards and that to study there is to fulfil a lifetime’s ambition.

    Please bear this in mind when you are reading my negative comments on ‘my’ university experience, then you may begin to appreciate the scale of my disappointment.

    1) University is, unfortunately, mono-culture. It may have been different in the past, but whilst I have been at uni (2007-2010)I haven’t experienced a wide range of social groupings. Anyone that is different (i.e. doesn’t conform to the borderline alcoholic, flirting with a drug addiction, clubbing and NME gig night stereotype)…generally isn’t catered for and doesn’t do that well in social situations.

    2) University has decimated/destroyed/undermined (*Insert bad word) my interest in my chosen subject (which I had excelled in and enjoyed a great deal whilst at school and at college). I have no explanation for this. Perhaps its the 8 hours of ‘lectures’ and ‘seminars’ that are scheduled a week leaving me with little/no structure in my academic life, which are delivered in a listless and unenthusiastic fashion by tutors (glorified markers) whom excel in a rediculously specific aspect of a subject that interests them only, then to have them repeat this irrelevant garbage at you for three years. e.g. when you go to seminars you discuss work that you have already done with idiots (NME types) that generally haven’t, lectures are delivered through powerpoint (go figure), if the lecturer loves the subject…then you must study…no matter how obscure…(i.e. The role of women in Empire, in India, between 1851 and 1901, in Mumbai, on the third tuesday of each month, before the elephants migrate south for the winter (or north…i don’care …im no expert on the tropics…although everytime im in the library all I seem to do is search the internet for flights to somewhere hot, sunny and far-away)…you get the picture.

    3)Standards…across the board…to get into university are now quite low. There are loads of people doing degrees such as Events Management, Film Studies, Graphic Design and other such Mickey Mouse courses.
    Here’s a tip… if you want to be a graphic designer …apply for an internship or apprentiship…with an established graphic designer (applicable to any minor profession such as hotel manager, office worker, salesman…stop creating degrees out of thin air), rather than worsening the job prospects for the rest of us…by pushing up the number of graduates with 2:1s and 2:2s and over-saturating the job market. Thanks Tony.

    4) Im £20,000 in debt. I have paid my ‘lecturers’, and rent, bills etc., £20,000 for what can only be described as …MARKING MY WORK…
    There’s not much more that can be said…apart from…”Fuck it im moving to Thailand…If you can find me…you can have the money back.
    (Esp. unfair thanks to the Scots, who get it for free…lucky bastards).

    5)University doesnt prepare you for real life events…it wont teach you how to pay council tax, switch bank accounts, get a morgage, change your gas supplier, make love to a beautiful woman, job hunt (maybe posh ones do…with your Etonianesque (I’m pretty sure that’s not a real word) ‘old-boys’ network you tend to find at the posher universities, fix a shelf…etc etc.

    6) Universities are at face-value, empowering educational instituions. In reality a business. A cold, cold …profit driven, marketing…souless machine…spewing graduates with 2:2 and no idea into a bad job market. Please refer to Bill Hicks … you will get the general jist. Oh noone ive met knows who he is…sigh.

    Thats all I can think of right now.

    Make up your own mind…I dont care anymore.

    anon

  817. …joanna, joanna, joanna, joanna
    it’s the the morning, the morning
    and it still doesn’t feel right…

  818. AFTER UNI I’M MOVING TO AUSTRALIA! LOL FUCK YOU STUDENT LOAD – LOL… you will never get your money back,

  819. I’m sure that uni works for some people. I’m just rather tired of regurgitating other people’s opinions and sitting around pretentious wankers that aren’t open to opinions that aren’t found on google.I never wanted to come to this dump, the people are lovely and I’ve had fun but let’s be fair, there’s nothing more than peer-pressure making people come to these establishments anymore. It’s simply “what’s done next”. I can’t think of a single hero of mine that came out of a university. But you know, c’est la vie. Here I am. And fucking loathing every god damned second I spend here.

  820. fuck the system

    Thank God i found this website! Tbh I was never really looking forward to uni but I went anyway because I felt I had no other choice, everyone in my year at sixth form did. Then I finally started my first year and I literally counted down the weeks until I could just go home! The course is boring and it feels like there was no point in trying so hard at school. I could struggle through the course maybe if it weren’t for the fact that every night is an alcohol/drug fuelled event where it’s impossible to meet people when they’re curled up on the floor vomiting.
    I too believe that people just go to university on whatever course they can find just to get a piece of paper so they can find a job.
    I’m hardworking and dedicated to learning and I can’t understand how some dumbo will get a job over me just because they got a degree!
    I’m halfway through first year, will probably fail exams and am intending to drop out at the end of the year. I’m not going to continue to waste my money on a course that I hate and living with uninspiring people. I dont think that any of you should continue to struggle through uni, dont be scared of your parents because they may respect your opinions because it’s your life – what’s the worst that could happen?!??

  821. sociology sucks

    for fuck sakes I hate sociology. why do all of the text books have to be written as though its intended audience all carry masters degrees? whats worse is that alot of these so called introductory texts are usually written for research purposes rather than for accessibility and study by undergrad students. would it really be so bad if some of these assholes could explain their obscure theories in layman’s terms instead of “trying to sound smart” for the sake of reputation? FML.

  822. My university experience is painful – I have NO friends. I am no attention seeker, but they give me no attention. The totally ignore me or they treat me like shit when I try to voice my opinions.

  823. Im i nthe same boat as Ian… i mean i have people i talk to but i never hang out with them only one person but it is painful seeing every1 together in groups etc… but they talk about work and id rather be alone then doing that.. but honestly uni is affecting my mental health

  824. People in the u.k are lucky they only have to do 3 years, in canada its ur slaped with an extra to make it four, and God bless ur soul you never have to repeat a course

  825. lol SP i fully agree with you,moving to australia is the way forward!i reeeaaallly hate uni aswell but only coz the night life is so shit and the ppl here seem to be more interested in their own popularity and kissing each others asses,i do love my course tho but i did spend like 3 years looking for it.if i hated it i would drop out IN A SECOND!no questions asked!!!in fact i may just fuckin drop out anyway, work and move to oz now,i dont mind working low paid jobs and lets be honest now,id much rather be living in a shack in thailand for the rest of my life painting boats or working as a waitress on a boat than come out of uni only to get an office job and thats if there even is any.

  826. woo hoo! I gave in my form saying that i’m changing course on monday (from 4 year to 3 year), so i’ll be graduating this year:D (i finish june!). I can’t wait. Uni has been the biggest waste of time ever! After it’s over i’m going to america for a few months, will come back to the uk to work until jan then hopefully i’ll go on a round the world trip:D

    Peace to all those dudes in uni into 2011:P – totally sucks to be u!:P

  827. SP, i totally like your way of thinking! Total genius:D

  828. I have three months left, and I just want it all to end. Between having to listen to people scribble and flip their papers in class and laugh like hyenas outside of class, I want to perforate my eardrums. I can’t say I was happy before coming to university, but it’s made me way more depressed than I already was.

  829. Anon: see 163 & 172

    Hi everyone, am not surprised to see that this thread is still alive and well. The new format is lovely.

    I commented years ago during my horrible first degree – see comments 163 & 172.

    Didn’t get the internship I worked so hard for so I had to stay in the city I hate, and do a dull job for a year. Anyway I am in my final year of a Masters – figured it was my best chance of finally getting a job or at least an internship abroad in the creative industries – the competition is serious.

    From one middle class Uni to another. I really thought things would be different this time. Thought I’d meet a mixture of people from different backgrounds, learn things that interest me but no…on both counts. Having lost all respect for my Uni as an institution I am losing hope. To the untrained eye my Uni is ‘progressive’ but it full of right wing idiots.

    Help! It feels like such a burden, I know that I am fortunate to have bthe opportunity but my energy is being drained by being on this olousy course. Have a few months to go and want to quit daily. How do I stay in? My only hope lies in knowing that I can get visas abroad by completing and go, levae, start a new life and actually use my talents. I’m an artists and I’m stuck once again. I could read and study all my modules alone and gain from it in that way, I just feel so tired.

    What can I do? How can I haul myself through these last few months and finally finish this? Suggestions anyone? And no I am too close to finishing to take my previous dvice. People I avoid being in the building as much as I can, it is that bad so no clubs and societies for me.

    I feel hopeless and have no parental support, only judgement. My ex boyfriend and I aren’t together…that caused me enough problems and misery and I have so much to deal with outside of Uni.

    But at the same time my entire family will look down on me if I quit…and that alone makes me want to stay. And I don’t like to quit what I start. To be honest, I don’t care about the money. It has made me that miserable but at the same time I just want to finish, have the certificate and move on. What do I do?

  830. Hi guys I have read this through from the beginning to end! It has helped knowing that there are other people who feel the same way I do.

    Anon you only have a few more months to go. My advice is (unless its unbearable) just power on through. Get your head down, work these last few weeks, get that piece of paper and be proud of yourself for sticking it out. Maybe have a calender and count down the weeks (thats if you dont already!). I would try not to worry too much what your parents say. Obviously I know thats hard, but its your life in the end.

    Take your own advice: “And most of all stay calm, eat well and try and get some sleep, you’ll figure it out”

    I am half way through my 3 year degree in chemistry and I’m hating it. I’m going to use your advice too!

  831. anon, my advice to you is plan a trip over the summer, and in times of distress just think of what you will do in the summer! I’m going through bad depression and i’ve planned a trip to america to teach kids how to climb (camp america), then travelling for up to 30 days after that!:D. Before this summer plan i was so depressed, but now i’m counting down the days until this trip and I can’t wait:D. One week gone is one week closer to finishing uni and one week closer to america! My m8 is going to learn thai boxing in thailand after uni. I think u should go travelling:).

  832. Anon: 163/172/380

    Thanks for reading and responding to my message Rollonon2011 and PK.

    I am under so much pressure at the moment and I am suffering. Your kind compassionate words and useful advice have been really helpful.

    Rollon2011 – I think your screen name sums it all up for me. I’ll be graduating this year and by 2011 I’ll be free! I asumme that you’ll be graduating next year so best of luck! I am touched that my advice is helping you.

    I have been counting down the days, but I think I’ll look at my calender when I wake up and whenever I am at Uni or stressed over it. I don’t have many teaching weeks left and that should help me to gain perspective. And you are right, I’m going to move out for good after this so what my family members think and say (excluding the helpful supportive ones ofcourse) means nothing. I will be free. So thankyou once again and I wish you the very best with your degree, you will have so many opportunities with that qualification, it really does means something to have a degree. As much as I suffered through the first one and am suffering through my second, it does put you ahead when you’re applying for jobs, internships and other opportunities. Best of luck!

    PK: Thanks for your advice. I’m broke at the moment because as I can’t work that much, due to Uni but you are right. I should plan a trip abroad and save for it slowly over time. At least I could have some fun and just leave all this stress behind for a while. After reading your message, I’m going to keep an open mind and chose somewhere I can enjoy being, whether alone or with a friend, somewhere where I can be free for a while. I intend to move abroad anyway so hopefully, a taster will recharge me. I am glad to hear that you are taking up Camp America, I’ve heard great things about it and I hope you have a great time there. You and your friend have the right idea. I’ve always wanted to do a road trip somewhere hot and sunny. Hmmm. I’ll get some brochures and make a plan.

    Thank you so much guys, anymore constructive advice from anyone is welcome! I really hope that my advice can help others. All the best to everyone. Thank you.

  833. don’t go to aberdeen uni… just don’t
    the city is so boring, grey, cold and rainy.

    All the people here are stuck up and arrogant, especially the law students.

    There are no sport clubs for people just to play for fun, just serious sport teams.

    On the bright side, only got 3 and a half years left of this crap…fuck!

  834. Hi, I’ve been reading this site for a while and I wanted to share my experience of uni at Coventry. I am currently in my third year but have felt out of place ever since my very first day. When I first started, I wasn’t up for going out drinking and clubbing as they’re just not my thing.

    As such, I was seen as an outcast by my flatmates and nobody really wanted to talk to me. I couldn’t make any friends at all because no one was into the stuff I’m into (videogames, films, music). This continued for my entire first year.

    Towards the end of the year, I met a girl. I thought uni students were supposed to be progressive thinkers and not care as much about physical appearances and such, but she rejected me because I am fat. I tried everything to change her mind and show her that I could offer the world but she was fake and superficial. So I stopped talking to her abruptly (and haven’t since for 2 years). This might seem harsh but she made out with a prick right in front of me in a club. She knew how I felt about her, so why she didn’t just tell me to go home before then I will never know. All I know is I got her out of my life for good.

    As I got into the 2nd year I moved to a student house. I started making a few friends but I continued to feel out of place. All my friends were fake and plastic, they didn’t actually want to do anything else apart from clubbing and shit I don’t care about. It was here that uni decided to screw me again. I met a 2nd girl that I liked, and had everything in place to have a relationship with her. However, as I was so drained after the first day back at uni she thought I wasn’t interested. We never got together after that, no matter how hard I tried.

    When I tried to get this girl away from my life, she kept on cropping up in my life again. She only wanted to remain friends and I wasn’t really interested in friendship and such from her. That might sound pretty terrible but it’s the truth, something most students outside this chat will never know about.

    Regardless, I trundled along lonely and away from most people in my house. I went out a few times with my housemates at clubs and stuff, but it isn’t really my idea of fun. After that, I made some new friends but they weren’t anything special. We had a uni trip to New York which was really good, but again, the other students aren’t actual people so wanted to see and do nothing actually cool.

    The best time at uni was a party that went on to a really good club. This was one with a live band and stuff so I was quite happy. However, that 2nd girl was there and I was crushed again as I had to sit and watch another guy all over her. I deleted her from my life again shortly after.

    This all lead to the third (and my current) year. I still had a few dodgy friends but the uni was keeping me busy with lots of work. The 2nd girl managed to weasel her way back into my life again. She used me to help her do work and lead me on. I lapped it up, seeing as I was so lonely. We remained in this state throughout Christmas, but as soon as we got back to uni last week she unceremoniously told me she only wanted to be friends.

    Naturally, I blanked her and didn’t want to talk to her ever again. However, she didn’t get the message this time. She phoned me three times, left two voicemails, texted me twice and left a few MSN messages. I ignored all of them and we proceeded to fire facebook status’ and tweets indirectly at each other. She proceeded to put her facebook to “in a relationship” and changed her picture to her and her supposed boyfriend’s crotch next to each other just to wind me up. Furthermore, she made everyone guess who her boyfriend is. This attention seeking wasn’t necessary in my view, all I wanted to do was delete her from my life and somehow continue on through this terrible experience of uni.

    So that’s where I am now really. Alone, watching American football from my room in Coventry with no plans to meet or see anyone next week until my only uni day of the week; Friday. Normally I don’t mind as I watch lots of TV and film and play a lot of videogames, but it’s hard. I loved the 2nd girl but because she is another person who just cares about looks and stuff she never wanted me.

    In conclusion, uni is basically the worst experience of my life. While I can socialise in pubs and stuff now, it feels fake. The people are fake and no one is on my wavelength. I am a progressive thinker that can constantly change and attempt anything, but I am stuck with dogmatic, retarded people. It’s got so bad that next term I will pay for my rent here but actually be living at home for most of it. This is fine for my uni work as there are no lessons for that term, just the whole block dedicated to doing the final project in our own time.

  835. Anon: 163/172/380

    @Erp – - You can still transfer…perhaps to a more exciting Uni in a city or rural town in Scotland, Wales, Ireland, or England (Outside London where people are a lot nicer and there is a lot more green space for sports fields). Somewhere where there are lots of sports teams. If you do transfer, be careful who you tell, do your research and be aware that tutors etc may try to talk you out of it or make it a bit harder…I know because a close friend did it. Uni’s don’t want to lose money and talented students, however if your grades are good another Uni will want to snap you up. Otherwise…see my previous advice in post 163. Best of luck.

    @Anony. Well done for managing to stay this long. Don’t let thsoe other girls put you off, there are so many girls that just want a nice caring guy, some even prefer chubby ones…a friend of mine seriously likes chubby guys, her current boyfriend has that shape. She is a lovely person who happens to be slim but she prefers men who are chubby, it’s her preference. So don’t be fooled.

    Also why not keep an open mind so that when someone you like comes around, you can give them a fair chance? Otherwise you may just treat them with negativity, due to your past experiences. I say this because I’m trying to do the same thing, date after my ex.

    Having said that you’re in your final year so give yourself credit for that. Have you looked up local music and film festivals? Not sure what Coventry is like but lots of towns have film festivals now and you could socialise with people who have similar interests whilst seeing great films/bands. Or you could put on some screenings at Uni, perhaps with the help of a club/society that discusses related issues.

    You have done really well and it will pay off, having one degree, it really makes a difference. And why not consider PK’s advice (comment 832) and plan an exciting holiday for the summer? I’m broke and I can’t work much at the moment but I know that I can save enough for a short trip somewhere nice if I work a little bit each week and go away in the summer. Knowing that I have something like that to look forward to, that’s not too far away has really helped me to feel better and I only read PK’s comment yesterday. Anyway I’m off to take my own advice am going to cook something nutritious and delicious to eat.

    This messageboard is amazing, I wish everyone who comes across this thread the best of luck. Getting into Uni is a trial and staying is hard but somehow, we’ve all managed that and whatever we decide (whether we choose to stay, transfer, differ or go) we are trying and thinking about our future. And it seems to me like we’re not taking the opportunity for granted. All the best everyone.

  836. Anony: people are crap; i have trust issues like hell; i think everyone hates me and always do – i’m so paranoid. I think you should give the “i don’t give a fuck what you think” attitude a go. I’m kinda so mentally drained by my awful uni experiences over 3 uni’s and 4 courses that i’ve all but given up trying to find friends. I just talk to people in lectures and that’s it. After lectures i go home and watch bbc i player, chat on msn/chatrooms and forums and watch TV. That keeps me going. In the summer i was so scared about being along when travelling to america but i read something inspiring which was along the lines of “it’s my life – i’ll do what i want”, which has inspired me not to give a damn about how people perceive me and not to care if they don’t like me. You like me don’t have to prove yourself to anyone else but yourself. :) . If you are happy with yourself that’s all that matters. So this summer i’m travelling alone:). Fuck people – who needs friends and shit? They’re more trouble than their worth in my opinion. I’ve never had a best friend in my life and probably never will. That’s life and i just don’t care anymore…live one day at a time mate:) All the best for the future:)

  837. Anon: 163/172/380

    There are nice genuine people out there who make excellent friends and value people for who they are not how they look, money, cars or any of that. Having read some recent posts. It makes me appreciate that I some friends like this. Friendships based on common interests and built up over time. I didn’t make many friends in Uni because I met so many stuck up, priviledged ignorant people but the friends I did make are truly wonderful people. So it is worth giving some people and chance.

    @Anony, perhaps the second girl didn’t mean to hurt you. Why not just talk to her and explain your feelings.

    Also if I am involved with someone, dating them or breaking up with them I never add them to Facebook…I have learned my lesson. You can waste so much time looking at their profile, rather than just talking to them and working out the issues or deciding to end the relationship – based on your own judgement. Using Facebook for romantic relationships can cause so much drama and misunderstanding. That’s my view.

  838. http://mysterygirl-listenup.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-much-longer.html

  839. hate uni so much

    hate uni… i went to uni just because my parents ask me to do so.. they said that uni is the most important pace of your life where you can meet friends and develop yourself..
    i don’t know why parents think uni is so important?? they teach you theories stuff where you won’t use it in the workplace, all the people there just simply only concern about their own problems, its hard to make friends like that!
    moreover, it takes so many precious moments of your life, you cannot enjoy your life because most of the time you need to study or attend stupid lectures. it so waste of money!!! what the point of memorising the book if you not gonna remember it after you finish your exam anyway???
    i do so much better stuff during holiday like actually try to work and find money.. not spending it on something useless like uni!!!

    seriously, whats the point??

  840. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Hate Uni So Much – The point is that piece of paper (your degree certificate) gives you a better chance off getting a decent (fairly well paid) job, because there are so many employers who will not even interview someone without a degree – whether that fact is advertised on not. Especially if you plan to live in a big city. Sad but true. For positive comments look at my advice at comment 163.

    On to my on going issue with degree number 2 and the Uni I have been suffering through. Thanks to the fantastic advice I recieved from Rollon2011 (see comment 831) I have purchased a wall calender and realised that I only have 33 lessons left. Only 33! I am counting down the days, literally crossing off each day and each lesson as it comes! And I have realsied that I have reading week coming up soon and a pre summer break – both chances to break away from Uni and make some cash. After lesson 33 I will not have to attend another lecture at my current Uni! Thank Goodness! Thanks once again to Rollon2011.

    Also PK’s excellent advice (see comment 832) has inspired me to finally plan my escape my dream internship abroad and a road trip around California (whether or not I get the aforementioned internship). I don’t care anymore. All these years of study and self control, trying to please and impress others. No more seeking approval, it’s about me. I am living my own life and planning my escape.

    @Mystery Girl – Religion aside, so generally speaking, I and many people that I know feel as if we are not using our skills and talents fully in Uni too. We are all correct, we are not. That’s how demanding Uni is, it takes a lot of time. Why not read through the positive comments on this board (you might find my comments in post number 163 useful) and choose what is best for you. Your parents sound supportive, they might be able to help.

    I am using my self control to try to study, safe in the knowledge that after those 33 classes and yet another dissertation + a few exams I will be free. To travel and to develop my talents and use them. No more exams. Also as bad as Uni is, dead-end jobs are also very tough and depressing – I will not begin to discuss my ‘year out’… Unless you are in a field you luv, you may just end up in a job you hate. Having a degree means that you can get a promotion in said job or, joy of all joys actually end up earning a living doing something you love. Or you could transfer to anotehr course and/or Uni. Whatever you decide, good luck.

    Best of luck to everyone!

    Note: Comment 380 isn’t mine so I’ve removed it from my screen name. lol.

  841. “Kie wrote::
    My god. I thought it was just me. I am sick to my hind gills of University. EVERY TIME I GET SOMEWHERE, THE FUCKING GOALPOSTS ARE MOVED. Like many others here, it’s robbed me of a life. I’m 29 now, and I’ve be though my degree, top ups to augment it and try and get a better job. what should have done is go into full time work straight out of high school like the rest of my mates. They are all married , engaged or in serious relationships and are having babies. Not to mention they earn a hell of a lot more than me. Uni was a waste of time and I sacrificed so much that now, I realise that life has passed me by completely. My plan didn’t work. Don’t be a fool kids, if you don’t feel right within the first 2 months of uni – GET THE FUCK OUT. Don’t make my mistake and slavishly follow a set path which you were sold as “The Right Way”. Only you know what is truly right for Y-O-U!

    Sorry, I have gone on a bit, but there ARE other choices than uni. I have found that a degree isn’t really sign of intelligence; it’s how well you can regurgitate the same shit you listen to in mind numbing lectures, delivered as only a uncharismatic bore (i.e. the lecturer) can.

    God…if I could turn back the clock!

    Friday, January 5, 2007 at 07:52 # ”

    Well, here I am folks, years later to let you know – still in same boat! New piece of advice for you – NEVER WORK FOR THE NHS. You’ll get nohwhere. It is, without doubt a business – and lets be real thats what it is – unless your face fits. It’s a place built on collusion curruption and nepotism. Ihave been passed over by people who don’t even have a fucking degree. Absolute elegant proof in my eyes. Fuck this world, fuck the educational system and most of all fuck the UK. I’m allowed to say that, I’ve lived here all my years – all 33 of em! KIDS, BE WHO YOU REALLY WANT TO BE NOT WHAT YOUR PARENTS WANT. IF THEY REALLY LOVE YOU, THEY’LL UNDERSTAND. Adios…

  842. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Kie – You are so honest and fab! Your post SPOKE to me.

    As for the NHS, if you have a nursing/medical qualification you can get visas to live and work in so many countries! Live you life.

    I’ve just found out that the internship I wanted cost £6,000+ F*** that! I’m gonna save that amount and travel, no work or internships or ex boyfriend. *Sigh* It will be amazing! Still not sure if I’m gonna quit Uni but either way am just going to make the best of my life. All this misery isn’t worth it!

  843. I should have taken kie’s advice about leaving i did my first degree course and hated it alot but stuck through with it for a year then changed degree programme at the same uni… big mistake… i know realise that its just not for me im not associated and dont want to be a student… its really mentally effected me. I didnt have much of a life before i went to uni but i was still satisfied by it, now at uni im just depressed and just think im going mad ( i pace a lot and mutter to myself a lot). So i really need to get out and when uni finishes in 4 months im going to thailand (PK’s post – im the muay thai dude)… good luck all

  844. i’m in my 2nd semester of my second year, only one year left and and i cannot wait to be out of this city. I’m at newcastle and i have hated every second here. i had a terrible first year in halls, i lived with five people who clicked instantly and thought i was weird. We didn’t get on to the point where for the whole year we never ever spoke. I was horrendously lonely and homesick, feeling sick to my stomach and unable to eat for months. Eventually this passed but left me feeling simply numb. For the majority of the second semester i spent sat in my room. This broke my heart as my old friends appeared to be moving on and having the time of their lives. Now in my second year i live with lovely people but i still feel a complete outsider in my head, if only they knew. I feel angry all the time that everyone else can deal with their life but i just can’t. I do not have the energy to mindlessly go out every night of the week for the sake of it, it does not make me happy. Although i have made friends on my course and have many aquaintances i don’t feel myself with any of them, except perhaps one. Now in my second year i would have expected the feelings to pass but i still feel nearly exactly the same. i have resigned myself to feeling this way and cannot wait to leave this place, i have gone from a confident, friendly and content person to an anxious, quiet shell of my former self, i feel like i let people walk all over me now as i havent the strength to be myself in this environment. I now look at university as a temporary situation which i am now half way through, i count down the days until i can get move on wth my life and get the old happy me back.

  845. @ the post above…. i know hjow you feel when you dont find many people you click with and seeing your old good friends mover on without you (this has happened to me). But now ive realised i just need to get away and as i said b4 im going away for a month alone to do something ive always wanted to do and might meet people like me.
    Uni for me is also a temporary situation but i still feel it will scar me for like … but scars are there to teach people lessons….

  846. Anon:Comments163/172 glad I helped :) I’ve had a calender since my first year and LOVE to cross off the weeks, it is immensely satisfying. 33 lectures?! I am sure they will fly by. The summer is going to be here in no time at all (I could hear the birds singing and the sound of lawn mowing today!!) When work gets too much, chill out and have a walk in the country(or park). There’s nothing like it for reminding you that all this work is not the be all and end all. All you can do is your best. (Oh and your trip to California sounds amazing!)

    Since my last comment I had a bit of a breakdown before returning to uni. My parents are happy for me to leave (I appreciated that so much) my mum reckons I’d be good in the police/revenue customs. Since she said that it was all I could think about. Anyway I talked to my Grandparents and they said leave if your unhappy but they had a feeling that I would regret it if I did. And I would.

    I always put alot of pressure on myself to do well. At school and college I worked hard to try to be at the top of the class. Since coming to uni I’m sick of learning and trying so hard! My mum pointed out that I’m not a career oriented person (she’s right- it seems my family know me better than I know myself) and I’ve realised that I don’t need to put that kind of pressure on myself.

    To be honest I want a job that is interesting but not the most well paid job. I enjoy the little things in life – walking in the countryside, reading, shopping, holidaying. I do not want to be stressed through work all the time. So instead of panicking about getting a first/2:1 I’m just going to do my best, come out of these three years with a piece of paper showing I tried. And pat myself on the back for sticking it out.

    Lola- I think I feel very similar to you. I have course friends, and I get on well with my housemates (2 very well) but for some reason I just don’t feel I fit. I see myself as a weird kind of person and assume everyone else thinks of me like this. I sometimes think I am too nice to people and find I just agree with what they say most of the time. That’s why I cannot wait to go back home. I am completely myself when at home with my parents but I don’t feel like the same person here. I’m way too self conscious and care too much what other people think. I’m actually thinking of going to the counselling service to see if they can help.

  847. I thought about talking to someone too but i reckon i would just cry my eyes out, making me feel even more weird! I also always assume that people find me weird and absolutely always think that everyone i meet will not like me, though i’m not really sure why i think this as i know i am a nice person. I feel like i’ve turned into some kind of yes man, agreeing with what other people say and not really sticking up for myself just for a quiet life and for fear of uncovering all my insecurities. I don’t feel like i have put down roots here and kind of feel that it is now too late to do anything about it! it is so comforting to know i’m not alone.

  848. Another thing to get off my chest… I cant have a good conva at uni with any1 ( except for a few) every1 just talks about what they drunk last night (i dont drink) relationships (im single and wont meet ne 1 at uni) and the wrose thing… HOMEWORK… i waled down the hallway today and all the convo’s were about homework… these ppl just use eachother

  849. Anon:Comments163/172

    Rollon2011 – Thanks for your comments. You are so lucky to have such a supportive family!

    Sanjaayyy – Plenty of people are shallow or just not interesting. Hopefully you can meet a few people you get on with.

    lola – Know how you feel, between this and my ex boyfriend I haven’t been out socialising for ages – am only just starting to socialise even with close friends again. Had a drink with a classmate and I have a date tonight – feel numb because thats my ex, feel like giving up entirely on that score.

    How can you go out when you just want to start crying ad feel like a failure? Think I’ll go to Councelling services again or something at Uni. Perhaps you have similar services/people to speak to?

    I have come to the end of my…tether. I have decided that this weekend is the weekend when I decide once and for all. Stay or go?

    I go to class and before or during I feel like breaking down into tears, I think about how much of a dissapointment I am to myself already and how much I will be if I quit. I also think about the level of suffering that continuing will bring me. I lost so much weight during my previous degree/dissertation, I stayed home for months on end, didn’t sleep and all for…grades, grades grade…if the deadline had been longer I would have just kept dropping dress sizes – am no that isn’t a good thing, to see your body and spirit wasting away before your eyes. And having people congratulate you for what is slowly becoming an eating disorder.

    I know that I am mentally capable of doing this degree but my heart is not in this anymore, I just feel like I don’t have anything left. Went to class for the first time in weeks yesterday and today and people keep telling me that they miss my input, I don’t even know what they are talking about.

    I have spent my entire life working so hard – working, studying, interning simultaneously. Whilst surviving one family crisis after the other. And I thought that maybe things would get better at this point. Things would be leading somewhere, I’d be in a Uni I liked and be living the life I want to live.

    If I knew I would feel like this I wouldn’t have started this Masters degree but I know that if I quit, that’s it for me. I won’t go back at all. And I’ll be a failure, a weak pathetic failure.

    I wake up every morning feeling like a loser. At the same time I’m in love with someone who doesn’t even care about me….another source for feeling like an even bigger loser and for feeling pathetic. Spent Tuesday morning just crying over him and my life. And if I quit, I’ll just be yet another woman who was ‘broken’ by a man…as well as Uni and life in general. That’s not me.

    Everyday I have the same arguments with myself over staying or going. Its like a laywer arguing for the defense and the prosecution.

    If I leave I’ll have to do more jobs that are mentally dull, pay off my overdraft for a few months, work for a few months and then travel and come back to…the city I hate that I am already living in. If I stay its more classes, exam torture. I am behind, haven’t handed in 2 essays and a project. My Tutor says its fine, that I can work through it. I know that I am mentally capable but WTF? What is it for? When I’ll end up leaving, working to pay off said overdraft and then working to travel and…you catch my drift. The only thing I can think of is having that piece of paper, to get work. Just that certificate. Because I am damn sure not here for the ‘social life’.

    If I had the cash I’d sell my possessions and board a plane next week.

    What is the point of any of it?

    I am forcing myself to stay. And there is no way that I am deferring, I will not come back again.

    Can’t talk to my Mother because she is never satisfied. She will yell. She yells anyway about anything. I have a massive CV – have been working since I left school whilst studying – and she is not satisfied or supportive. However when relatives come round and she wants to show off, then suddenly I am good enough…my work is good enough to show off. But I am trash?!

    What is happening? How the hell can I stay? How can I go? 31 classes left + overdue: 2 essays and 1 project + dissertation + presentation coming up in a week that I haven’t even researched. And more essays and exams to come.

    What is going on?

    How can I get through this? Can I get through this? I just feel stuck and terrible.

    I don’t come from a rich family I can’t just swan through life. I should finish but I just…

    I feel like I’m inflicting torture on myself, either way. And for what purpose, what is the point I ask myself. Don’t need another degree to travel or to get a so called ‘good’ job. I already have one and I’m suffering through a second.

    Suggestions are more than welcome.

    Will decide this weekend.

    *Sigh*

  850. @Anon:Comments163/172

    First of all I would like you to take a deep breath. Grab a cup of tea/hot juice whatever and take a couple of minutes to do your best to remove all those negative/worrying thoughts from your mind. All this worrying will be zapping your energy.

    I am intending to go to the counselling service for the first time this semester. I think you should go again. You are NOT a failure. From the sounds of it you are a very intelligent, hard working individual. You already have one degree- believe me you are definitely not a failure. The counsellor should be able to show you ways to think positively and to raise your self esteem.

    If you leave uni then you are NOT a failure either. Your making a choice for yourself which takes guts. Losing weight and causing yourself so much mental and physical pain just isn’t worth it. You have a degree so you won’t end up in a menial job surely? I am going to end up with a BSc and I’m counting on that to give me a decent job. You have a lot of experience behind your belt so I don’t see why you wouldn’t be able to get a good job.

    Talk to the counsellor about your mum’s impact. You seem to hold her opinions too close to your chest. What has she done with her life? Even if she has worked and studied hard (which you have too), she has no right to make you feel the way you do. Do not feel like you need her approval all the time. You need to be happy with yourself for your own reasons- not because someone else says you work hard and your grades are good.

    On the other hand. You are SO close! Your tutor thinks you can do this. Your course mates say they miss your input. Everyone seems to think highly of you apart from yourself. (You dismissed your friends’ comment). You have some work to catch up on. Can you make yourself a rota/timetable set little goals for yourself.You can only do abit at a time. When you list each thing you’ve got to do it seems like a huge mountain to climb. Just take each as it comes. Bit by bit you’ll get there.

    I’m trying to say that whatever you decide you are not a failure.

    I know its hard but please try not to dwell so much on your ex boyfriend. You are your OWN person. Thinking about the past really isn’t helping you now, its just giving you more negative energy.

    Hope I don’t sound too out of line. Good luck with your decision and remember its YOUR decision!

    xxx

  851. man wat a shit day – i hate my life :S – stupid boring world.

  852. there was this guy in my econ tutorial yesterday – freshee indian…he was arguing with the lecturer cos he got 53% in a problem sheet. I just held my head to my hand and thought “tell me this isn’t happening”. The problem sheet didn’t count at all towards the course but he was still arguing that he got few points saying “in engineering if the question asks us to state, we state it – we don’t describe it if it only asks us to state”. He actually said that the fucking toff! Then at the end right…he went up the the lecturer and asked for more marks! I mean WTF is the point? It didn’t count towards anything – why would someone do that? What an annoying little shit!

    …see why i hate uni now guys? have to put up with douches who think they’re smarter than they actually are and people who are so fucking stuck up! ARGHHHHH….pricks.

    moral of the story…. DON’T GO TO UNI!!!!!

  853. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Rollon2011 – Thanks for your comments. You don’t sound out of line at all. The irony is that if my Grandparents knew how I felt they would encourage and support me because they believe in my abilities and want me to have the most options possible, they want me to have the best kind of future I – one where I use all my skills, talents and abilities. Thinking about it makes me tearful because, they are abroad and I can’t even tell them because they would worry. They wouldn’t berate, under mine or try to guilt trip me.

    I’m giving myself time to make the decision and by tomoro I’ll decide either way.

    Thanks again for your response. I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to respond in such detail and with such compassion. Your comments are really helping.

    Very best of luck to everyone.

  854. @lola, i’m in my second year at newcastle uni too and feel the same way. I live at home and commute so it’s harder to make friends and I ended up hanging around with a group of other local students, but theres a couple of people in the group who make it obvious they don’t like me and exclude me from most things so I don’t really feel part of the group. I don’t really connect with any of them anyway. Just feel really alone a lot of the time and jealous of everyone I see having the time of their lives with loads of great friends but oh well.

  855. Anon:Comments163/172

    Decision made – I’m going to stay and finish this degree. 2 months of full time classes left then a few additional classes – because one lecturer structured their course to include extra classes to provide more ‘value for our money’. No one else can follow his lectures but I think he’s great and understand everything so those extra classes aren’t going to be a bad thing in my case.

    Then I will go on holiday and then make arrangements to leave home for good, get a working holiday visa for 12 months/24 months after that I’ll try and stay permanently or simply move on somewhere else and do the same thing for as long as I want to.

    Finishing this degree buys me more rent-free time at home, so I can really save some cash so I won’t have to come back and it will deprive my mother of an additional reason to yell. She doesn’t support the idea of me travelling or working abroad as she assumes that I will fail even if I attempt to do so. Despite the fact that I’ve secured opportunities in the past through constant hardwork. It’s her problem, not mine. I’ve do loads already and if she doesn’t genuinely respect or appreciate my abilities. Too bad. I am off anyway. I’ve realised that according to her, any problem I have is my fault, so why look to her for support? The answer is easy really, I don’t and I shouldn’t.

    Thankfully I have supportive friends and other family members and this fantastic messageboard. I can’t thank you enough Rollon2011, at this rate you should be a Careers Advisor or Student Councellor. Thank you so much for your time. You are right, I am not a failure, I have worked hard for so long and its about time I experience the benefits of that work and stop listening to negative criticisms. I hope that whatever you decide you are happy with your choice and move forward in a positive way. I’m glad that my advice has helped and that your advice is helping me. Speaking of that, I cooked a delicious meal last night and in a minute I’ll work on having a great lunch!

    I do appreciate the opportunity and from this point I will just do my best to complete what I started.

    Whether I pass or fail at least I’ll know that I have done it and the academic torture will be over, by the time my grades come in, I’ll be abroad, same goes for graduation so in that sense it doesn’t even matter. I simply won’t be around to deal with it. I’ll be free to live the life I actually want to live and to enjoy the creative freedom that I have wanted for so long.

    As for my ex, he taught me a great lesson, not to trust another man again, pursuing romantic relationships is pointless for me. I have so much more to do in life, for myself and to help others. It’s not worth wasting all that energy and crying THAT much…over a man. That is ridiculous…WTF kind of relationship is that?! lol! Even reading that statement back puts things into perspective.

    Good luck to anyone in a healthy loving relationship, I’m just not going to keep ‘hoping’ for that, ‘hoping’ someone will appreciate me in that way. Funny thing is, having come to that conclusion for myself, I feel free in a way. My friends who are in relationships are encouraging me to continue abusing myself by trying, but there are different ways to live and I’m just going to do what I want, they should respect my choices as I respect their’s. I left peer pressure behind in secondary school…that was a trial in and of itself.

    Anyway have a great weekend everyone. For positive advice, check out my post at comment 163, hopefully there is something there that may help you in some way.

    “Pursue your dreams. Live, love, get paid and get laid.” – Paul, Comment 129

  856. Anon:Comments163/172

    @PK – The guy in your class could be a contributer to this same messageboard, you never know, he may hate university too. He may be under immense family pressure to succeed at everything. If he is an international student then his family are paying serious fees (3 times or more, what UK/Home students pay) or he has a scholarship or sponsership he has pressure to succeed because he has been given a special opportunity. In some cases, people are sponsered by companies to study a subject and if they do well they will be employed afterwards, so he could even be in that situation. And may have to support himself, make his family proud or even have to support his own family (wife child or relatives). Either way he has his own pressures and may even have to send copies of each assignment/essay home or to his sponser, so that 53% may matter a lot, in his situation. Or he may be scared that that assignment is a sign that he is failing in some way. So even though it doesn’t count towards his grades, he clearly believes that it matters a lot. Family pressure, can really crush a person. Who knows, only he does.

    Having said all that, I hope that you do meet some people who you get along with. All the best with your plans over the summer. Your previous comment was great. As I’m using my summer plans as a great goal and motivator. Uni won’t last forever after all. Good luck.

    @Lola – Why not try speaking to the councellor at Uni? They have heard it all. So even if you do start crying in the middle opf a session (which I have done), they are more than prepared and trained to help you. Your tuition fees pay for them to be there, they are there to help you. And clearly there are other students at your Uni (for example Everlong) who are also finding it challenging. You sound like a nice person, in your previous comment you mentioned that you know that you are a nice person. Just seems like your confidence has to be restored and you, like me and lots of people on this board – need some good company/friendships. All the best.

    @Everlong – Check out my advice at comment 163, hopefully you might read something useful. This group of friends you mentioned doesn’t sound supportive or even nice. There are clubs and societies at your Uni surely? There are other ways of meeting nice people and enjoying at least part of the (non drinking-drug taking) social aspect of Uni. All the best.

  857. @anon163/172, the guy in question is a class A toff, no doubt about it. He comes across as one of those types of people who think they are above everyone else. You would seriously have to meet him to understand what i am on about.

    Congrats on your travel plans – mine has hit a hurdle! Need to get a few damn documents for BUNAC.

  858. thanks for mentioning BUNAC are there others you’ve covered also (other working visas)?

  859. Anon:Comments163/172

    @semile – You can apply for visas for countries directly through their embassies. Or ask your Uni Careers Service about other opportunities, like teaching a language abroad e.g. Teaching English in Spain. There are different visas.

    I can’t wait to move on!

    Another class today, Reading Week is coming up, thank goodness!

  860. Can’t wait for reading week:D woop! What u on about semile? You asking me about bunac or are you doing it also? what u doing with bunac?

  861. Anon:Comments163/172

    Recently, I have come to certain conclusions about Uni.

    I don’t have to enjoy Uni to complete the course.

    I do not have to enjoy the reading, like/be interested in or even respect/admire the: University, lecturers, library staff (some are nice, credit where it is due) or fellow students.

    I just have to take it step by step.

    I refuse to suffer and literally starve as I did during my previous degree, which was horrible on its own merits.

    I just have to go to some classes, complete essays/exams/projects one at a time and then I get to leave. I have 2 1/2 months left in total. A dissertation and then my whole life back.

    Also Universities rely on our success for funding and prestige especially ‘big name’, ‘red brick’ or in the American case ‘Ivy League’ Universities. So they will help us to pass, that’s why councelling and careers services are there. Because they want to maintain their reputation through high grades and successful Alumni.

    So milk them.

    Do you seriously think that they let the sons and daughters of Presidents and Ambassadors fail? Nope they give them as much assistance as possible.

    In the spirit of milking, I have spoken to my year Tutor, booked appointments with my Personal Tutor and a Learning advisor who can help me with essay writing. I will also use the Drop-In councelling service and the Drop-In Careers Adviser service…I will simply ask “So which 12month+ visas am I eligible for?”

    Funny thing is I was reminded of a quote the other day it seemed so true,

    “I decided long ago, never to walk in anyone’s shadow. If I fail, if I succeed, at least I live as I believe.” Yes Whitney Houston, it has come to that. lol! And up until this week I thought I was turning 100% Emo…

    Went to class yesterday, including exams I know have 32 classes left.

  862. dunthinkso@gmail.com

    uni fuck hard Im sick of it but at least i got the opportunity to attend so fuck you all fucking whiners

  863. dunthinkso@gmail.com you suck you retard but you make an admirable point at least we all have had the opportunity to attend university

  864. dunthingso@gmail.com – u don’t need to be smart to get into and go to uni in this day and age, so congratulations on getting above 3 E’s and a levels and getting into uni. Now shove uni right up your arse and jog on, or better still, go do a phd and get off this webpage u douchebag!

  865. Anon:Comments163/172

    Just went to a meeting with my so called Personal Tutor. He was useless! Having a PHD doesn’t mean that you have common sense or the ability to relate to other people. He didn’t even know the basic departmental regulations about handing work in late, I do, he doesn’t…He didn’t know where to find them in the official handbook because he ha d not read it…He does not know these basic facts. I guess I was bothering him, interrupting his own precious research interests. But wait he is my Personal Tutor so he’s supposed to help right? Wrong.

    He even tried to patronise me too, implying that I was an incompetant child…I explained to him that he was infact speaking to an adult. He went on saying that only I can do the work and that no one will ‘hold my hand’ or ‘tell me what to do each day of the week’. I explained to him once again that I am not a child, I am well aware of that, its basic, having been educated for this long, with one degree already I think that basic fact is apparent, that I have to write the essays myself.

    I was asking him for practical advice, suggestions anything of use and he made it seem like no one else has ever had a problem. Well now I know, I won’t speak to him again at all.

    Some academics are so selfish and self-centered, they will happily watch someone fail, as long as that person leaves their office so that they can get back to their own research asap.

    I explained that I want to finish the course, that I cannot defer or do another year because I don’t want to and cannot afford it and will have no place to stay…but he kept talking about it.

    My Mother has already threatened me and effectively decided that I should leave after my degree is complete, I was planning to go anyway and her support is never going to arrive to it wasn’t a massive shock. I didn’t tell him this for the reasons I explained and will explain.

    Some of us do not have indefinate funding or basic moral support from Mummy and Daddy. I will not be a student for the rest of my life.

    Funny thing is, I actually figured out who can help me and then he repeated what I had just told him…a few seconds before, as if he was doing me a favour, throwing a dog a bone and had come up with these original ideas. He also used terms like you better hand the work in ‘as quick as you can’, to add extra pressure. So in summary I should; somehow magic up more money so that I can do an extra year providing the Uni with even more money; completely solve all of my problems…including family pressures and issues (which I haven’t even discussed on this messageboard) immediately with ease; find it easy to go to classes and finish the work…from now on, today, straight away. Perhaps I can accomplish this by snapping my fingers or perhaps clicking my heels three times?!

    Oh and while I was trying to speak to him a collegue of his wandered in, they have a little chat and he went on to rummage for documents/books behind me….my Personal Tutor kept talking and expected me to talk freely about my personal issues…in this way he was happy to abandon any attempt at maintaining confidentiality, privacy and basic respect.

    Idiot!

    So now I’m going to have some breakfast and spend my time forgetting every word he said and actually get some real advice and assistance from those who actually know what they are talking about. People who know what’s in the departmental handbook – people who don’t have to guess who the examining body are…he actually did that, guessed.

    The lesson of the whole horrible experience is, be careful who you talk to, choose someone who actually knows what they are talking about. Or have the confidence to recognise when someone is ill equipt to help you. I left with no additional knowledge or help.

    Having said that when I spoke to my Year Tutor, he was helpful and encouraging and even cheered me up a bit by cracking some jokes about how he’s a less-than-perfect student. He was so helpful and kind. So seeing him was very helpful and I’m going to see someone who can help me with Essay Writing today. Hopefully they can help in this respect.

    So as I said, its breakfast time for me now.

    Didn’t expect to have to post such a long rant. I have decided to finish the degree so I just have to do my best, be positive and try to follow some of my own advice. And at least when this is over, that’s it I’ll have my two degrees and I can be left alone. I will have done my duty.
    I will be free.

    Oh and I am over my ex, thank goodness. That weight has been lifted!

    Best of luck everyone.

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    31 lessons left (including today). I am counting down the days.

  867. @Anon:Comments163/172 Glad to see you’ve made your decision. Your tutor seems like a complete wally! I think you have got a great attitude though!

    I have my final exam of this semester tomorrow. Then its back to labs and lectures next week! Only 6 weeks and then its easter though so its not too bad.

  868. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Rollon2011 – As always thanks for your kind words. I tried to see the humour in the situation somehow. My Essay Writing Tutorial (with someone else) went really well. It was helpful and I felt encouraged.

    Good Luck with your exam, Chemistry must be demanding in that sense, so well done for sticking it out. If you follow your own fab advice and use your calender to cross off the weeks…those 6 weeks will go by quickly. I have reading week soon and then the Easter break, I can’t wait!

    Class yesterday was really good, wasn’t sure if I should comment but I did and my lecturer was impressed, we chatted in the break and my lecturer asked me to repeat my comments to the other students in the seminar that followed. And we had a discussion – influenced by my comments. She’s happy for me to write an essay about my ideas and looks forward to reading it. I think I’m so used to being judged and criticised at home, it’s difficult to take compliments or positive comments. But I’ll try.

    30 more classes to go!

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    @semile and anyone else who wants to Travel. There’s an around the world internship by STA on offer for this year.

    Travel Around The World for FREE!

    http://www.statravel.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/uk_division_web_live/hs.xsl/world-traveller-intern.htm

  870. Ahh im saving up to go to thailand for a month for my ideal holiday after i finish uni. I did pretty well in the first two years but i just hated it more then ever now. All the people talk about work and stress over useless things … there is more to life
    So right now i just want to focus on trying to enjoy my life ( hated every second of uni and felt more socially etarded then ever!!) and if i pass i pass if i fail i fail… its that simple :)

  871. I am a 3rd year university student. I don’t have any friends at university and I miss my high school days when I was happy and I used to be around some good friends. I also had a better daily routine, ate healthier food and had a better overall health. Stress at university ruined my health. I’ve never been more depressed. I hope that I’ll graduate on time. I want to ask most of you – will you attend graduation day at your university? I don’t want to go. I went to my prom at high school and it was not that bad, but not that exciting as people say it should be either. However, I liked many of my high school peers, and I don’t like my fellow students. They are so snobbish and totally ignore them. And I don’t want to wear that ugly gown and that hat.

  872. @ Ian…. me to i have hardly made any friends at uni and my good high school friends have moved on its hard to see them again… As i said before im finishing in 3-4 months soo wooo and i dont want to my graduation either it’ll be too fake for me

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    @Ian I didn’t want to go to my graduation. I felt terrible as I got a 2:1 instead of a 1st (although now I know that a 2:1 is an excellent grade, something to be proud of) and there were so many snobby people in my course. However one of the few good friend I made convinced me to go, I got dressed up and went. It was ok, the Dean’s speech was actually useful and somewhat inspiring and the graduation photso are something that my Grandparents have and are so proud of. So I am glad that I went for that reason alone, just so that they and I have those photos. Not sure if I’ll go to my next one, not sure if I’ll even be in the country at that time. And I think that it is possible to get the photos done at another time at a studio perhaps? And to hire the gown for it? Will decide closer to the time…if I pass that is. But I’m staying positive, hoipefully I’ll get a decent grade.

    I think it’s your choice, but as you half enjoyed your prom, I think its worth you going. Oh and there is free food and drink at graduations.lol.

  874. I won’t go to the first one, will go to my next one. Somehow, I’ve got the feeling that my MBA course will be better than BsBA. I don’t want to have a photo with these people, no sir! I am the kind of person that, when looking back, remembers only good things. I’ve got almost nothing good to remember from university. I’ve always done that – forgetting bad experiences and ignoring them while looking back. E.g. I say that I loved high school, but to be objective, the last years actually sucked because everyone was so nervous and there was a lot of tension in the class. But, I am ignoring that and I focus on my other years. I think it’s good to ignore bad experiences, thus I don’t feel bad because of them.

  875. @ Ian…. hopefully your course is better for your MBA… but do you really think the people will be? I dont think so postgrads are often more boring ( the ones ive met) … and in my last years of high school people were less stressed somehow… thinking about it makes me sad as ive had soo many good times then but not at uni ( where it should be “amazing”)

  876. uni sucks – end off – i’m hoping travelling will give my life some direction!

  877. Yeah, but at least they will be different and I’ll be back to my home city (which is a lot larger than the town where I reside now on campus). My social life will improve at least a bit.

  878. …besides, it will only be for a year before going into real life. Work is hard, but at least they pay you some bucks, while at university you’re the one who pays for the torture. :)

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    @IanI didn’t have any photos taken with other students, just of me alone in my gown and of me with family members in my gown in a studio setting. University graduation pictures are different through High School photos. Nothing to do with the other students…But its totally up to you ofcourse. It’s a personal choice.

  880. I haven’t wrote here in ages, but I wanted to drop by and thank all of you for your advice. I’m still not talking to the second girl I mentioned in my original post (http://ihateuniversity.com/2004/03/why-i-hate-university-life/comment-page-9/#comment-894), and my friends seem to be on my side over it all so that’s a plus. They seem to think that the first girl has got back at me by becoming friends with the second girl and poisoned her mind. I agree to a certain extent, but I guess no one will find me attractive so perhaps that’s to blame. The second girl is still trying to contact me but I’ve iced her out of my life. It’s been three weeks now and I’m doing well. She keeps on trying to talk to me when I’m at uni. Today she was hovering around the door expecting me to ask her to move out the way. I just skirted round and kicked the second door open (no brutal force, just pushed it). She has also been trying to gain attention on facebook and twitter still, but I’ve been fighting back by just being myself and getting on with what I do.

    Uni’s been dying down quite a lot recently, it gets easier towards the end. Just one module left, then final project and portfolio. People in my course have been complaining about the work load for some reason, saying it’s too much. This is the part of uni that alienates me, I can do all this work in a week if I wanted to. I don’t get how a 3000 word essay is difficult if you know what you’re talking about. I sit down, write my essay, print it then hand it in. Others apparently spend ages on it and make sure it hits every target, but I don’t believe in that. In the real world, journalists have to be fast with their writing and I think this is how the future of marking in the journalism field needs. As a university course it just doesn’t work anymore. People get better marks by being friends with the lecturers and regurgitating ideas. I didn’t come to university to quote everyone else, I came to deliver me. If the lecturers don’t like that then they can give me a 2:2. I don’t give a shit.

    People are dumb at university now. It has changed from the political, interesting faction it was in the past and become like a holiday camp to some people. Everyone is blagging everyone else’s ideas and using them to build their own work. It’s disheartening and shallow. I helped a few people with some aspects of their work the other day, yet today in uni no one talked to me.

    My housemates have seen I’m lonely, so have been playing some Xbox with me. However, they are taking too much of my time. It’s good to show the girls who rejected me that I’m getting on with my life and stuff, but I’m not really that bothered.

    Tomorrow I’m going to see Gillingham play Brentford with a few mates from home and next weekend it’s my best mate’s birthday. He lives down in London so we’re going out with his mates over the weekend to a few pubs and comedy shows. So I think being alone is good for you as long as you keep in touch with the ones that matter.

    I’m not going to look for women here at uni anymore. I’m here for a few more months so I’ll wait and see what home has to offer, but I’m not holding out much hope. No one wants genuine guys who can give the world to someone these days, they want dangerous characters who they know will cheat on them and aren’t fully into them apparently. That’s the best research I’ve conducted at uni, and you can harvard reference me on that.

    Uni? What a load of old shit.

  881. I feel pretty much the same as everyone else here. I’m at the half-way point of my three year business course, and while I’m not quite regretting the decision to go to university, I can honestly say that lately it’s been revealing itself to be a load of crock that I’m not enjoying

    While I used to enjoy attending college and school, university seems like a chore… Except there are coin-operated brooms and mops. The lectures aren’t engaging, the same applies to the seminars and where I used to love Finance, I’ve now lost that flame altogether.

    While I have spoken to people (and to myself in insanity), and decided to “grit my teeth and bare it”, I can’t wait till it’s over

    By the way below is a link to my blog, where I liken my university experience to a Slush Puppie (Don’t worry, it DOES make sense!)
    http://twentygoingontwelve.wordpress.com/2010/02/06/university-is-like-a-slush-puppie/

  882. Most of the best years of my life were in school. Best grades: 1-6, 8 and 9. 10 was so-so, 7 was on the bad side. In 11 and 12 grade most people from my class were getting too nervous with the others, there was a lot of tension, which suddenly disappeared around prom time. I know that there’s no need for living in the past, so I’m looking forward to my future. I hope that one day I will be married and will have a good job and nice colleagues.

  883. I find that the people in my halls are alright but that they are so arrogant and think they are better than everyone else. So when im hanging out with them i wish i was alone. When im alone i wish i was out doing something!
    Any help, would be much appreciated!?!?

  884. @ Raz…. i know how you feel the people are very arrogant (the ones ive met) so i just go to the gym keeps me occupied and found a lifetime hobby for myself

  885. Believe me, life gets better. As much as having to work full-time sucks, it’s not nearly as bad as college. Sure work is boring (unless you’re a rockstar or professional athlete), but I’d rather be bored than bored AND stressed out all the time. Plus with having a job, you’re only a slave 40 hours a week, as opposed to 168 hours a week.

    Why I needed to go through four years of hell for this is beyond me, since even a monkey could do my job.

  886. O.K, I’m writing this because I wished someone had done the same for me when I was applying to University, and been honest about what its REALLY like at St Andrews. I am a Second year student at the University, and wanted to make a formal warning to people wanting to apply to this University, because I don’t want others to be duped the way that I was and then arrive here and realise what a colossal mistake they have made.

    O.K, academically, the university has a very strong reputation which in my opinion, isn’t entirely justified; having been to a private school since the age of 12, I have actually been relatively unimpressed by some of the teaching standards here at St Andrews especially in the first two years which do not actually count towards the rest of the degree. So essentially, two out of the four years you’ll spend here, unless you are actually studing medicine are a complete waste and count for nothing, and some of the tutors in the Arts honours degree are simply postgraduate students whose tutorial sessions are completely redundant and useless and essentially function as a means of checking that you’ve simply read the pointless articles and snippets set.

    The point is that St Andrews has a strong reputation primarily because it is an OLD university- the oldest in Scotland in fact, which is why its regarded so highly- so don’t be fooled as I was into believe that it is truly anything special.

    Now, to the most significant part of my article- the place itself is hopeless. Its like a tiny, picturesque little prison with no clubs, and a very limited amount of shops and NO SHOPPING CENTRE whatsoever. People really skim over that fact when talking about this place as if it doesn’t matter, but its important because it becomes maddening- even for people who claim to adore the place, the fact that the highstreet has basically very few shops is a drag, as is the standard and quality of the so-called ‘nightlife’. As I stated there are NO CLUBS just tiny crowded pubs with embarrassingly little space that attempt to mould themselves into clubs, but have ‘dancefloors’ the size of a small bedroom and play awful music. Students BEHAVE as though they are enjoying themselves thoroughly, getting dressed up to stand around in grotty pubs and drink, but they’re either very sad or pretending, honestly, because there’s never any space and ALL VENUES SHUT AT ONE O CLOCk in the morning. I’m not kidding.

    So people leave their little dorms at 11 to come back two hours later drunk and say they’ve had a great night. It’s very, very sad. If leaving the Union at 1 in the morning after spending your time in there listening to the same terrible music in a tiny box of a room sounds fun then perhaps not, but people behave as if they’re SO excited for absolutely no reason at all because there is nothing to get excited about. I love going out, but going out here is not what i call going out because all you’re doing is going to one of the pubs next to Tesco to the Union which are all five minutes away from each other because the place is so ridiculously, pathetically small.

    It is a beautiful place if you like castles and rabbits, and there is a gorgeous beahc although its only really ‘usable’ for one moth over the two Semesters and the fact that it is as small as it is ruins things, because instead of being able as you should in a city or a larger town, to escape to the centre for an afternoon just to relax or go somewhere a little different with friends- here there is no ‘centre’ to escape to, and So little to do its incredibly claustrophobic. The centre of town consists of three streets with tiny little shops and a few banks, like the bare minimum you would expect from an underdeveloped borough in London.

    There’s Dundee to go to which is 25 minutes away on a bus, but that in itself is actually a very dismal place with a few half decent shops although it does have a few clubs, which are the only saving grace of the place- I’ve been a few times and the clubs are actually good there which is a plus, but the cab fare to get there and back is 60 pounds- you know why? Because of the terrible transport system which means that there are no such thing as night buses here and so you HAVE to take a cab if going out to Dundee later than midnight- it’s things like that which bother me, because even ATTEMPTING to have fun is hard work here.
    Its also very difficult to find decent work here because of the lack of opportunities because of the lack of shops, and the \university’s Career Centre is completely hopeless, and basically has no reason for existing, because all the vacancy details could just be sent by e-mail to students, but they refuse to do that and instaead obligate you to go there in person and look up a vacancy located in a single file, which yu then have to que for half and hour to get access to. I am NOT joking.

    Most significantly, I have spoken to three people from London, two of whom are my friends and one who has now left because he hated the place so much, and they all say the same thing about it. I had to write this because since I came I have contemplated leaving several times, so if you’re from a decent, fun city, be prepared for the hugest disappointment of your life.

    This is an excellent place for social climbers who live in Wellingtons and wear Ray Bans and tweed in December and actually consider drunkenly stumbling around in someone’s lounge or the crowded rooms in the Union until only 1 in the morning to be a fun night out. My experience here has illustrated the extent of people’s capacity for self deception and delusion because sincerely, the place is pathetic. One of the most boring places I have ever lived, and a regretful and frustrating experience. If you want a real taste of University life, do not come to St Andrews- almost everyone I’ve spoken to since coming here has expressed that they dislike the place for the very same reasons I have stated here. Obviously, as I expect, people will disagree with me, but this needs to be said, because I have seen hints of others stating negative things about the place but no-one so far I have read has really given the place the dressing down it deserves.

  887. I love Uni!

  888. Noemail@no.com

    I HATE UNI!
    UCLan is a bad uni.

  889. School – the place where cool people feel good

    University – the place where the dull and the most obnoxious people feel good and make the people that felt good at school feel terrible.; see Revenge of the nerds.

    Work – the place where everything depends from place to place, but generally it’s like school. It’s boring just as a school is, but at least you get some money. It’s less boring and can be a lot better than a university though.

  890. I am in my third year and I hate uni, its full of obnoxiuois fake people. I dunt understand y i attract pyschos. when i enter a classroom all the psychos look at me as if i owe them my existence. they all try to get a reaction out of me

    i dunt know how to hide my anger anymore, i guess i will just stay at home today and concentrate on my individual project and preparing for exams and interviews because i dunt want to have any regret in June which is in four monthwhich is when my career and fate will be decided

    and fuck all the people at uni. i want to leave that place with a good grade and a job

  891. From the things I said above you might think I was a popular jock at school. Nah! I was just from the normal kids. Besides, I was never into most sports except table tennis, but it was never available at our school. All we were supposed to do during Phys. Ed. was play volleyball. I was never too popular in elementary and mid school, but wasn’t an outsider. I was close to being am outsider in 7th, 11th and 12th grade. But in 11 and 12th grades the whole class was like s battlefield. People were becoming very nervous because of the upcoming prom, university admissions etc. It was a real pain watching people shout at each other. However, I still had a friend or two, unlike now. Now, I’m a complete loner. I went from totally normal to totally moody. I want my life back, I want to have friends again and even a girlfriend. I hate loneliness, I don’t like being alone.

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    Class 29 just finished. It was ok and the lecturer was supportive as ever – thankfully, there are some good ones. Anyway, I could go on about this annoying guy in class but who cares? This will be over soon. *Sigh* I used to be really interested in learning but now I’m just getting by. Glad its going to be over soon. And studying gives my Mother one less reason to yell or criticise me…am working late shifts so I can avoid it and reduce my stress. Class 28 tomorrow, which should be ok.

    Best of luck to everyone.

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    I also remind myself that after this course I don’t have to see the annoying people again. Am going into a different industry, don’t have to associate with them at all.

    Glad I went to class, makes me feel better, reduces the pressure.

  894. I bunked my lecture today to go teach at a normal london state comp! Best decision ever, haha! I was surrounded by normal non arrogant people who were playing footie in the corridor, bunking lessons, winding up the teacher and so forth – just like at my old highschool….happy memories =)

    UNI SUCKS! :P

  895. Anon:Comments163/172

    @PK – LOL!

  896. Anon:Comments163/172

    Class 28 today. Roll on Reading Week! So glad that this page exists.
    @Rollon2011 – Thanks again for your advice. How is your course going?

  897. I attended University three years ago back in 07. I heard that it was going to be the best years of ones life, but for me it seemed like it was the beginning of the flipping end. We are socialised to believe that the further we climb up the academic ladder the more we get out of life. It is partly true but my fellow friends whoever said that failed to point out one other significant fact. I will tell you about that later on. For now I want to report to you all on how much I despised university. Before I got there I thought I was smart. I thought that I had a chance. I believed that I was special in some weird wonderful way. When I passed through those gates and entered a world very different from what I knew, I felt stupid. I felt despair. I believed that I was doomed for failure. The experience was unusual. I made no friends, got shit grades, and I didn’t have a purpose. I found solace by browsing on YouTube happily scratching the itch of procrastination. Inevitably I failed my first year and sank deeper into my depression. I retook the exam and failed again. Now you have to understand, I received all A’s at A-Level and I was doing worse than those that came out with all C’s.

    I really felt out of my depth, but to make my family happy I collapsed my neck that hung my head and literally dragged my feet to pass through those gates once more, onwards to my flipping second year. Two weeks later I woke up in hospital (no it wasn’t an episode of suicide gone wrong – for it to go right I would never have woken up) recovering from a car accident (was crossing the road on my bike and got hit by a car driving at 40mph). I felt lucky, not because I managed to sustain minimal injuries but because I would use or ab-use this event as my passport to freedom. I adopted this seemingly sincere persona. T’s true I fractured my ankle and I was in a cast but really that was not enough. I exaggerated my condition and told my personal tutor that I was traumatised and psychologically unfit to continue the year. So he granted my temporary leave. Turn over the page to two years later and looking back I realised that uni was not the problem, I simply was. I was not ready to handle it. I just barely started puberty and I was thrown into this rigid systematic world of, well, uni.

    Over the past couple of years I fully recovered from my injuries and stopped taking benefits and found pointless jobs in retail. I am not making a lot of money doing something that anyone can do. I thought God had given me a break and sent this customer to me who literally offered me a job at the spot. I went in had an interview and got the job (at this point I still didn’t quite fully understand what the nature of this ‘job’ was, but I was told that I can make £120 a day) in my other job that’s worth about 5 days of patronising labour. So, I recklessly signed the contract and shook hands with the boss {thinking}I was on my flipping way to a better life. Come to find out the job was basically knocking on doors for a living. You know those irritating people that come round your house and expect you to join up to their gas and electric service on the spot, the ones that really don’t understand the meaning of ‘not interested’ or simply put, ‘NO’. Well my fellow friends on the other side of the door I was that person. I mean the job wouldn’t have been so bad if London wasn’t so cold in weather and in people. The job was 100 percent commission meaning if you do not make any sales that day you make, NOTHING. So waking up 7 in the morning and getting home 30 minutes past midnight meant nothing if you didn’t bag a sale. Needless to say I went back to my old job and started to appreciate that a bit more.

    What I am trying to tell you fellow friends is that for me (this is not the case for everyone) if I don’t bag a good degree, retail and knocking on doors is what life has to offer. Recently I was speaking to a friend and he introduced me to this woman on YouTube, her name is Shanel Cooper-Sykes. A beautiful, put together, business woman, author and a motivation speaker (again this might not be for everyone). Funnily enough she inspired me because she was the visual living incarnation of what I want to be. She is confident, articulate, sexy and intelligent. Through her I started reading and through reading I started to broaden my understanding of SELF. I need to know myself in order to be my SELF. I needed to understand what my purpose in life is. I had to cleanse my mind and stop looking at life from a physical viewpoint but more so a spiritual one.

    I have started on my vision board (if you go on YouTube and type in her name and watch her videos you will understand) and I have been keeping fortnightly written documents on my progress on becoming a better me, analysing my behaviour towards creating almost a caricature of myself. I understand that what I want more in life vaguely put, is not be something that I am not but to be a 1st class version of myself. I have deactivated my Facebook account (waste of flipping time) I don’t go on YouTube as often, watching less television and reading more. There is still a lot more work to be done before I go back to University this year but understand, I WILL GO BACK. I am going back with a purpose and an better understanding of life. I am going back with a sense of proving a point. The point is that I am going to prove to myself that I AM SMART, I DO HAVE A CHANCE AND I KNOW THAT I AM SPECIAL IN A WONDERFUL WAY.

    So my fellow friends “we are socialised to believe that the further you climb up the academic ladder the more we will get out of life. It is partly true but my fellow friends whoever said that failed to point out one other significant fact.” You need to know your purpose in life. You need to have passion for something. If you don’t know what it is don’t panic! I do believe that deep down you crave for a better you. You can apply that in any way you see fit best. Challenge your self, be your own personal project of self improvement, what ever that means to you. So finally the other significant fact is (drum-roll) The fact of knowing one SELF. “if you don’t know your self, how can you be your self” … wish me luck because when I go back I intend on getting a 1st class honour degree to match my 1st class version of myself.

    Kisses

    Sada ~ future Relationship Expert and Domestic Goddess :)

  898. @Anon:Comments163/172

    Hi, I had my last exam on Friday, it went surprisingly well. I then had Saturday and Sunday to enjoy the brief spell of freedom. It was back to lectures yesterday and already I am stressed. I have labs all day Thursday and Friday afternoons. I hate labs. I don’t have much confidence in what I am doing and you have to be able to manage your time well and carry out lots of experiments at the same time. I usually end up ‘running’ round the lab like a headless chicken getting stressed. Plus this week I have to write up the full post lab. On top of that I should be writing my lecture notes up and I have a set of tutorial questions to answer by Friday.

    On the plus side I have an interview tomorrow for a summer internship. Some of you guys will think I am crazy as it involves me staying at uni for an extra 6 weeks over the summer working as a biological researcher. The thing is, it will look great on my CV, plus if I get it I will get paid. I may as well take advantage of these opportunities while I’m here. I’ll still have 6 weeks at home and then I’ll start my third and final year in September!

    I went to the counselling service today. The earliest I could get an appointment was the 19th Feb. There must be a lot of stressed students.

    I’m so jealous that you finish in just a few months! Your doing really well. You’ll be really proud once you finish!

  899. @ Sada .. i totally agree you need to know what you wnat in your life before going to uni …. however it was at the depressing time at uni i found what i enjoy doing and what makes me a better version of myself… ( i think) I ll finish my degree in a few months but we’ll see what happens

  900. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Rollon2011 – Thanks so much for your encouragement. I still have overdue work to hand in but after seeing that useless tutor, I feel as if I can find my own way to get the work done. I have also noticed that lecturers and students compliment me for my contribution, my friends also respect me and value my opinion, so just because I don’t get that at home, I should appreciate the fact that some people value and respect what I have to say – including you Rollon2011.

    As for you, well done. You are clearly managing a difficult course and you are more than halfway there. Summer is a few months away. The internship sounds good, if you can handle being on campus, you’ll get paid and learn more – hopefully you’ll get to study areas of science which interest you.

    I have 27 classes to go, don’t even have to attend them all, just have to hand in the work.

    Any tips on reducing the stress of handing in overdue work and staying motivated?

    I really have stopped caring about the course, I just feel better when I think about the fact that I’ll be free soon and I’ll have more time to make some money for travelling.

  901. Anon:Comments163/172

    Also, I chatted to one of my classmates the other day, she said something like “oh, surprised your still here, last time I saw you thought you’d quit” and it has dawned on me that she would have been happy for me to do so. We’ve been friendly during the course, I have listened to her troubles in detail and helped her out, tried to be a friend…despite all that she’s happy to see me go, whatever the result. I have another classmate who will text me if I am absent to check if I’m ok and who is happy to share her notes with me so that I can catch up on anything I miss.

    It made me realise that this first ‘friend’ really doesn’t give a damn at all. And that’s what Uni can be be like, so many people would gladly see you fail.

    Made me appreciate that I have real friends who actually care about me – most of them outside this place. And I won’t have to return to it. Seriously my friends really want me to weigh up the options, think about my decision so that I’d do the best thing for me.

    Lastly, the snobby attitudes in some of my classes annoy me so much, some people really think that they are ‘above’ anyone who isn’t at Uni. That ‘the public’ are beneath them. It’s ridiculous. So glad I get to leave.

    27 classes to go a few months and I’m free!

  902. @ Sanjay fingerscrossed, since it is your last few months add in some overtime go beyond your limit, challenge yourself that bit more. It makes time go that much faster. I read that you don’t want to go to your graduation. erm why would you say that? Your practically allowing those fake people to rob you from such a pinnacle day in ones life. Your graduation is something to celebrate and brag about. If you do not want to be around fake people then invite your freinds and family, those who sincerely care. I wish I only had a few months until I graduate… I have to wait two more years for that :P

  903. @ Sanjay fingerscrossed, since it is your last few months add in some overtime go beyond your limit, challenge yourself that bit more. It makes time go that much faster. I read that you don’t want to go to your graduation. erm why would you say that? Your practically allowing those fake people to rob you from such a pinnacle day in ones life. Your graduation is something to celebrate and brag about. If you do not want to be around fake people then invite your friends and family, those who sincerely care. I wish I only had a few months until I graduate… I have to wait two more years for that :P

  904. I’m a 3rd year university student. I can’t wait to get out of here! I will never ever miss those years. I don’t miss 7th grade (it was bad), so I am sure I won’t miss university either. ‘But uni is 3-4 years’ you might say. Yes, but every year it’s the same and it’s painfully boring so it will feel like a one, very long year actually.

  905. @ Sada… i know what you mean but just how bad university is has made me think that graduation isnt a big deal for me as I wont enjoy it

    @ Ian G. I agree there were years i didnt enjoy in shool and forgot about it as they were usually followed by amazing years but at uni its as u said been a very very long year lol … there is more to life

  906. @ sada: I totally know where you are coming from. I have been to 3 uni’s and tried 4 courses. Maths at ox for a year, engineering at warwick for a week, a gap year reapplying and trying to figure out what i wanted to do, then astrophysics and geophysics at ucl for a year, before settling down to do geophysics. I mean even know i’m not settled down into uni in my 3rd year and i hate the place and course. I admire and respect you for following your heart and dropping out. I wish i had the guts to do what you did but i was too scared of how society will perceive me and ended up going to uni with only a fraction of the motivation I had during my a levels.

    I hope you find something in uni that you will enjoy doing and all the best luck for the future. As for myself, I’m going travelling after uni finishes this june to go soul searching…working + travelling in the USA for 2/3 months, then maybe SE asia/oz.

    I wish uni was like highschool where the people are down to earth and non boastful and the teachers actually knew how to teach. Uni is just the most awful thing ever. Crap teaching, crappy people who look down on you and just full of people who think they are better than everyone else without a degree. I should have not done a degree to prove a point, but as i found in my gap year, no one will give u a proper job without a degree – sad fact that and I hope society changes this view sooner or later and not discriminate on smart people like you who thought you could do well with straight A’s at A-level.

    All the best for the future :) .

  907. Anon:Comments163/172

    @TRUE TO THE GAME – If you’re still reading this thread…Are you still in Uni? How are you managing?

  908. I don’t know why are all of you focusing on uni, since the best years of most people’s life are supposed to be at school. i tell people that tell me that college years are the best of your life to shut the f*** up.

  909. Anon:Comments163/172

    @HS_jock – Lol! Most people on this thread are still AT Uni, school is over. Your comment is funny though!

  910. Yeah, but only stupid/ignorant people say that the best years in life are in college. it’s different for everyone ok???? I hate my uni students. If one day I wake up and the university exploded with all of them inside except me I would be glad.

  911. I’m currently attending The U.A.I.C (The Alexander Ioan Cuza University) in Iasi, Romania and i’m in my 3rd year of boredom studying Geography and now focusing on tourism.

    Long story short:
    1.The only way to get yourself noticed is to kiss a lot of ass.

    2. Too much shitty pride in the professor community (it doesn’t stop there).

    3.Some things they teach you are as useful as a tannig salon in the middle of a desert.

    4.They want your money, not your grey matter !

    5.I miss highschool…

  912. @ PK i love your intro. Oxford Warwick and then UCL. Man you are truly gifted to be given a place at all the above universities. Dropping out was something that I had to do but I am going back this year, I have already signed an agreement to a room. I also attend Warwick (Can’t wait to go back this autumn). I have done enough soul searching to keep me full for a atleast 20 years. I know exactly what I need to do and this time round, rather than procrastinating, I am actually going to do the flipping work. I would always get 2:2 for overnight work and anywhere between a 1st and 2:1 if I put effort in so I am not worried about failing again. Thank you for your nice words I hope you find what it is you’re destined for. I am loving the travelling you will soon embark on. I for one will be heading to Boston at some point for work experience so, good luck with your future you seem to have a great head on your shoulders believe in yourself mate otherwise no one else will. Peace :)

  913. Fuck university. I just graduated and sent a letter telling the ombudsmen I am not paying late tuition. They cant send it to collections for six months so FUCKEM! I got nothing out of University I couldn’t learn from talking to a jackass, like i did every time I spoke to a professor. College isnt any better community colleges cant even get people jobs these days!

  914. Donno if any of you guys find this but in reality i think uni is a peace of piss in the sense that the amount of stuff they teach is quite small. i.e. remember back to those a level days when we had a lot of content, skill and knowledge to grasp. Now compare that to any module you have done in uni. I personally find that I can get away with doing fuck all and getting a 2:1 ish with a days revision, and if anyone wanted or had the motivation to get a 1st they’d just have to read books and do more work, For me personally, GCSE was the krux, a levels got easier, and uni is easier but more boring so no one here gives a fuck and so don’t try hard. Oh and i find it so annoying how the professors think u are completely r-tarded and go through all the basics again, but i’m not complaining cos it’ll mean i’ll just be kinda re-revising in class and will make the homework sheets a bit easier, hehe!

    Anyhow, what a shit day i had at uni today…..Got into uni at 10am to hear a freshee dude suck up to the teacher saying plagiarism is bad (of course but no need to suck up), and then this same dude was arguing with the teacher saying most of what she was doing was a ‘WASTE OF HUMAN ENERGY”. It was a laugh but what a totally arrogant prick. After that I had to watch a crap oceonography video with a guy in hawaii measuring ocean wave height..oooo – fucking amazing….NOT, then we had to sit and do crappy rock calculations and just listen to geeky people getting all excited about various rock related talk – KILL ME NOW! =(….THANK GOD IT’S READING WEEK NEXT WEEK!

    Peace people!

  915. I posted here a while back. Well, I’m still here and started my second term. If you can even say I started. I did all my exams, I’d done literally no revision over the break because I was in denial I’d be coming back. My mum had to emotionally blackmail me into returning. Thing is, I haven’t been to a single lecture since being back, so that’s 2 weeks of lectures I’ve missed. Every day, I just sleep in til the afternoon, then spend the day feeling anxious and depressed. Everytime I think of leaving the house, going to a lecture surrounded by cliques and then there’s me, just on my own…I can’t bear it. But I told myself I’d try and at least work hard this term, or I have no hope of passing this first year.

    So I was wondering, how do you guys motivate yourself to go to lectures?

    And has anyone had to resubmit work or take exams again? I know for sure I’ll have to this summer and it would be nice to talk to someone who’s been through it all. My friends just lecture me and my mum has no clue about all the lectures I’ve missed and work I haven’t given in. She’d probably kill me if she found out.

    Thanks to everyone, for just sharing their stories on here. I always feel I’m not alone when I come here :)

  916. @ Curlygirl

    Hello… when i was a first year ( before i changed course) i hated it too i missed lectures and just felt alone but still somehow went ( big mistake).. when i changed corse i just went with the flow but now ( 3rd year) reqalised ive just wasted 4 years of my life in this place.. I honeslty have no motivation to go to lectures other then just being alone at home so i just go … Also ive taken up the gym and go a lot so i feel bad not doing anything but recently, like you in 2nd term i actually have done nothing and do not care which isnt very good for a final year student is it :P

    I havent had a social life at uni but im not afraid to tell ppl i meet at uni when i do what i did the night b4 ( gym) as i believe in the future it would be better for me …

    Also ive planned my summer.. i havent been away on a proper holiday for years so thought im going to thailand alone to learn muay thai some thing that aids my gym stuiff and something im actually interested in!

    I mean do you hate your course? Or is it the people or university which you are at? What one is it btw :P Dont be afraid to name and shame

  917. Anon:Comments163/172

    @CurlyGirl – Thanks for your post, I was where you are during my first degree and now I’m finishing my second, this is something I’m still dealing with so I’ll do my best to give you some advice.

    “So I was wondering, how do you guys motivate yourself to go to lectures?”

    In my experience missing two weeks of lectures isn’t going to do your grades harm – so don’t panic about that, all isn’t lost. However when you take time out you can feel disconnected from the course, the people and the whole process in general. When you do go back and attend one lecture, then another, a week then another week you start feeling like you’re part of things again – even if you’re not enjoying the course/uni/company of the people. This can help you to focus on the bigger picture – finishing.
    Also the lectures need to see your face regularly and know your name so that when you need a reference in the future, they will have an impression of you and will be happy to help. Also they will be more willing and able to answer your questions and help you with your essays and exam preparation.

    By going back to lectures and attending them regularly you ‘break the cycle’ and you can start working again. I’m not saying it’s easy, but it gets easier. Also if you can do some reading before class you will have something to say in class Good lectures and other students encourage comments (my Undergraduate classes were so quiet and even my masters classes can be) and if you listen to such positive feedback, it may help you to build your confidence up a bit. Consider seeing the councellor to discuss your problems with the course and lack of motivation may help. Your Uni may also have workshops to help build motivation or even organisational skills. Check with the Student Learning Department/Centre – whatever it’s called at your Uni.

    Practical tips
    1) Focus on getting to the class, focus on physically being there.

    Rather than stressing about Uni and all the other things, just focus on getting up, getting dressed and getting there on time – ONLY these practical things. Not the other stuff.

    Leave yourself enough time to get to the lecture so that you can arrive on time or even 5mins/10mins early.
    By doing this you can get a seat and take out your things in a calm way. Also if you are on time you don’t have to walk into a lecture which has already started. If you are friendly with some of the students you can even have a bit of a chat and find someone friendly to sit next to in class.

    2) List the reasons why you chose to attend Uni, all the pros – not why your Mother or anyone else wants you to be there – why you chose to be there. Why did you choose to contine studying? Why that course?

    3) Focus on the day when you get your certificate, the graudation gown and pictures and how you’ll feel then – having completed something so challenging. I do this all the time, even plan my outfit for the day and think about that certificate and the freedom I will have.

    3) Get a calender for your wall or a personal diary/day planner and cross off the weeks daily, highlight the holidays and reading weeks. This may help you to get things into perspective, you made in through the first year, you are literally half way there.

    4) Be greateful that you can resubmit work, you can literally change your grades for the better. Yes it takes work but you are not failing. I think that there are other people who are in a worse situation than you, and they will graduate and make it, so can you. Also you care about completing your degree, you came to this board looking for help. You are making the effort so give yourself credit for that. You are trying and that persistence will get you there.

    5) List the graudation gift(s) you want from your Mother… :)

    6) Summer is coming up, all the work you have to do will be done in the next few months then you have a great summer and one more year left. It won’t last forever

    7) This should have been my first comment…Listen to your favourite music as much as you can. As soon as you wake up, switch on music which wakes you and makes you feel energetic. You make be able to set your alarm to a song…or just have something on standby. Music has gotten me through so many exams and essays, it is so so helpful and cheers me up.

    I hope that I’ve helped in some way. For more advice check out my previous post no. 163

    Good Luck!

  918. @curlyGirl.

    Personally, i think when you get to that stage, i’d just leave and do a bit of soul searching, travelling etc…That’s what i did after a year of uni. I scrapped a 3rd at the end of my first year of my first degree, but left cos i wasn’t happy. I worked in a book shop, then an office for a bit and did a bit of travelling in my gap year between uni’s.

    Personally, i don’t think there’s any point getting stressed and depressed over something that is just a small part of your life. Adopt the “fuck it” mentality and chill curly girl! =). If you do end up taking time out from your studies i promise you that you will come back fresher and with a new outlook. i hope some of what i said helps.

  919. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Curly Girl – Oh and I meant to mention that in some degrees, the first year doesn’t actually count towards your final grades….was so stressed during that year and came to find that they were just terrifying us, only years 2 and 3 counted. Even if it does count, you can make it happen. Best of luck!

    As for me, I have 25 classes left. Thank goodness!

  920. Anon:Comments163/172

    Reading Week!

  921. I managed to get the summer placement, so I’ll be staying at uni for an extra 6 weeks over the summer. Possibly 8 if we get enough funding. The project looks really interesting but a little scary as I have to give a presentation and learn new lab techniques. I’m going to plan to go home quite a few of the weekends and my family are going to visit me so it should be fine. I’m thinking the faster the summer goes the quicker I start my third year and then uni will be over and I can move home for good!
    Uni isn’t going to badly at the moment. 2 weeks left until I go home for the weekend and then 3 weeks after that it’s Easter!

    Very jealous of your reading week Anon:Comments163/172!

  922. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Rollon2011 – Congrats on the placement! You should be really proud of yourself for getting it! Hope that all goes well, I think it’ll be a great learning experience for you, you seem really interested in the research so all the best.

    You’re right, the summer will go by quickly as you have something interesting and mentally engaging to do, and you’ll be making some money too. And with your family’s company you’ll be fine.

    No need to be jealous, am spending Reading Week catching up on my overdue work. Trying to do things bit by bit and not stress out. Have only told close friends (outside Uni) that I have overdue work and they are supportive. At least I don’t have classes this week, that is a good thing. And after that only 25 more classes to go. Thanks for all your advice and encouragement.

    This board is the best! Visiting it really helps. Best of luck everyone!

  923. @ Anon… 25 CLASSES… i think thats like me but haven’t counted just waiting till it finishes… but unlike you i will not doing another degree

    I thought that going to uni would help me discover myself and what iwant in life… but its made me confused and full of anger for many things… The stuff ive learnt about life were at an earlier age and to be fair a lot during uni just not at uni .. but by doing stuff alone by myself ( as i do not live near the uni) i.e. a lot of lone thinking time in the gym but also doing random things which have kind of helped me see life in another way just not that way i hoped..Well good luck all

  924. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Sanjaayyy – Uni has made me so miserable and angry and just added stress. I can’t wait to finish. Like you I learnt so much outside Uni. I worked and knew how to take care of myself already. I was bored and frsutrated, now I’m angry and frustrated but I am determined to finish. Good Luck with your studies.

    Thank goodness for this board!

  925. For those who have trouble motivating themselves to study, I find timing yourself helps. Personally, I make sure I study for four hours everyday. I’ll usually only do 30-40 minutes at a time, but it adds up over the course of an entire day.

    This is the only method that’s worked for me. Before I implemented it, I probably studied less than an hour a day, because it was so easy to just mess around on the internet instead.

  926. Another thing: don’t feel like you have to attend every lecture. If a course has good in-depth online slides or just goes by what’s in the textbook, don’t go at all, unless you’re aiming for perfect marks. You’ll just burn yourself out.

  927. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Brian – Thanks for your comments! It is so easy to just mess around online. 30-50mins then a break works for me, when I focus.

    It’s hard for me to work now because my heart isn’t in it anymore, I’m writing essays for the grades only. I used to care about learning but my Uni is terrible and most people are snobs. I’ll end up reading and learning what I want to learn after the course is over. I am beyond caring about grades at this point I just want to finish and escape.

    It’s not easy but I’m just taking it one step at a time.

  928. @ Anon – Agreeed ive stopped caring but for me that means my grades r declining but i honestly do not care lol… What uni do you go to .. it sounds like mine

  929. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Sanjaayy – Uni stress and other stresses have affected my grades but I am determined to do the best I can. I will finish soon it won’t last forever. Summer is on the way and so is the rest of my life, its tough but there are better days ahead.

  930. @anon. I think you should forget about uni and chill :) . That’s what i’m doing now. Sanity and general well being of oneself is far more important than academia:). Today I went to the dentist, read a book, slept, woke up and browsed net, googled local clubs to see if ne thing around my area, went to morrisons and local shop to get chocolate and coffee, came home ate pizza and watched loads of southpark :D ….I got NO work done all day and i don’t care HAHA!!!!! :D . I don’t know if you are stressed about uni or not anon, but i think you should just chill out and put your worries behind you if they are getting to you.

  931. Anon:Comments163/172

    @PK – Glad you had a good day but I have to finish Uni. I made my decision about that already. I have overdue essays to complete so I’m taking as much time as I can to make progress on that this week. I have to work part time too (am still paying for my tutition) so I can’t just do nothing it’s not how my life is. I am trying not to stress. Uni is tough but there is a lot riding on me completing, the stakes are so high I can’t even begin to explain so I’ve pretty much kissed my social life goodbye until it’s over.

  932. yeop i fucking cant stand this twisted bizarre place we call university, stuck in a tiny little room surrounded by egotistical arseholes. having to stop for a 3minute ‘alrit’ ‘hows it goin’ coversation with every other bellend when I want to pop to the shops.
    Not to mention how much this shit is costing in money I dont even own yet, i end up spending most of it on pot anyway (about the same amount of money the majority spend on haircuts and over priced clothing). And if i get dragged out to another ‘wheres my money’ dubstep night to stand around nodding my head and clenching my jaw im going to punch someone.
    Dont get sucked into this giant fake expeirience, ill stick it through though, its not going to suddenly go away but it will one day.

  933. @ anon, no no, i didn’ t mean drop out! By all means finish uni (why waste all that tuition fee money?). What i’m also suggesting is not to think about all the deadlines. I used to think: I got this and this to do, and then that, etc, and i got nothing done because I used to just stress. Now that i’m more chilled out I actually get the work done. All i’m suggesting is chilling out a bit more and i guarantee you that it’ll boost your productivity:) – that’s what i think anyway:).

    Sorry to hear about your financial woes though :( . All the best over the next few months and beyond:)

  934. @fwergh: you rock mate! I went to school with people like you (good times). Uni totally sucks…full of toffs and lecturer’s ass licking douchebags. Where bouts you at and what year u in? I’m in 3rd year of 3 and I can’t wait to leave…uni work, people, ego-centricness and everything bout the people is pissing me off.

    What are you guys going to do for a living? All the peops with degrees go work with toffs in banks and become lawyers and shit but i don’t think i can stand the prospect of being around total r-tards all my life. Ne people have any ideas? I was thinking of going travelling and then either joining the RAF or maybe do a pgce and be a maths teacher in a london academy. Need more ideas!

  935. Anon:Comments163/172

    @PK – Thanks for clarifying. I hear you, I actually let myself chill out for a few hours today and I feel better. I just want to make it through Uni without becoming ill from stress again it has been like that for years (Uni, College, School) and I can’t take it anymore. So much stress isn’t worth it. Now I’m calmer and taking care of myself much more, I actually look and feel so much better.

    Will think of some careers suggestions for you soon. Thanks! :)

  936. @anon 163. Great to hear you’re better mate:). I went through years of a stressed mindset before it hit me that it wasn’t worth it. There are more important things in life than stressing over silly uni. I read one article on bbc news this morning which is very relevant:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8520549.stm

    Chilling out can arguably increase your life span by reducing the risk of heart disease!:D – another reason to chill out more. Man it’s nearly been a week and i aint done shit. You done much this reading week?

  937. Anon:Comments163/172

    @PK – “Chilling out can arguably increase your life span by reducing the risk of heart disease.” How true! I’ve done some work, not as much as I planned to but I’m not going to attack myself over this stuff anymore. I’ll just find my own way of doing it.

    Only 25 classes left I cannot wait to finish!

    This board is the best. Thanks PK and Roll on 2011, you’ve helped me to get things into perspective.

  938. 25 classes? woh! you’ve been counting:). I’ve no idea how much i have got left but two i just chill in the lessons…don’t worry about ne thing. I got an exam next week and have spanish coursework but not done ne thing yet:S oh dear!

  939. Hey, just got back from a day in the labs. I was stressed when I was there because everyone is further on from me (apart from one guy) and I really don’t think I’m going to finish it tomorrow. But now I’m back home I’m thinking..so what?! Who cares if I don’t do as well in this write-up?! It’s really not going to make that much difference overall. As you guys have said the stress isn’t worth it.

    I got my results back and I passed all my exams which I’m pleased about. So really it’s just a case of powering through these last few months. Then I get to start this summer placement, I’m really excited for that now!

    Anyway that’s my little update!

  940. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Rollon2011 – So glad you’re doing well. Anything you don’t know, you can improve and learn. You are so right, the stress isn’t worth it.

    Am doing what I can, when I can and I’ll get through it and have a summer and a whole life ahead of me.

    :)

  941. Since going to university, I have learned how truly stupid I am. At school I was told I don’t have many assets, that I was ugly and devoid of any personality or warmth, and that the certain aptitude I had for scoring well in standardised tests was probably my only merit. Well since going up to university, it seems I lack even that “ability”. Looking forward to Monday when I can enjoy the embarassment of collecting another shitty mark, despite hours of work.

    Does anyone else get that feeling? That feeling of total insignificance, like you are a complete waste of space? I know in my heart that I contribute nothing to the world and could never justify my existence. No particular hopes or dreams. Just passive, languid existence. I know many people consider suicide and the thoughts are running through my head more every day. There’s nothing to stop me other than mum. She doesn’t have much joy in her life, in fact in some ways she has been given a rough deal; but she needs me and it would be irresponsible to abandon her. I’m just going to have to wait for her to snuff it!

    Another day tomorrow and the whirligig tedium goes on and on and on….

  942. anon621 needs to WAKE UP. university is a loaD of bollocks, all the cunts there walk aROund with fake smiles. we are all unhaPpy, the world is unhAppy, thats the way the Cookie crumbled and now were here..In a small corner of time, slaving away to earn money so the fat bankers can live like kings. weve all got a personality, no one is more intellegent than yourself, because you are the only person who knows yourself truly. your on this riDe for about 80years, it will be over before you know it, so sorry but suicide is uneccessary. not to mention youll miss out on that 4minutes of brain activity when you die, that could be a lifetime in itself man. were all in the same boat, we are all the same, we are all one. fuck it

  943. Anon621- I truly believe that you are not a waste of space.

    I have been feeling pretty low recently and my doctor has referred me to the uni counsellors, my first session is tomorrow. Does your university offer counselling? With all due respect you seem to be stuck in a rut of negativity and I can sympathise with you. It’s an awful place to be when everything seems so difficult and that you have no purpose. I think if you really are feeling as low as you seem to be you should see your GP.

    Really hope your ok. This board is a great place to vent your frustration/anxiety.

  944. I want to say a MASSIVE thank you to everyone who replied to me :)

    @Sanjayyy, I dont really hate the course in particular or the university itself. The problem is me unfortunately. I have really bad social anxiety so the whole university situation is really hellish for me. And I dont love my course either, I just happen to have a natural talent for it and all my teachers said I should study it. Good idea about the holiday! I’m being really careful with my money and saving for a holiday to South Korea.

    @Anon:Comments163/172, thank you for all the advice! In answer to your part 2, I’m really only here because I have to be. I dont particuarly love my course or surely I’d enjoy going to lectures? The only things that keep me here is my mother, the fact I have a school friend in a university quite close and that if I do decide to teach English in South Korea, I need a degree. But the fact I’m not working makes me wonder if I even want to do that.

  945. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Curlygirl – You are so welcome! Have you managed to attend any lectures?

    @Anon621 – You are not stupid. You have made it to this point because you have your own abilities and talents. You are not stupid.

    I was hated at school too, for being ‘too intelligent’…let’s not get started on that…forget school it is over, you’re not a child anymore you have the freedom to move forward and live your own happy life. I was told I was ugly too…it took me so many years to realise that is was not true at all.

    All this stress affects your ability to study properly and reach your fullest potential. So if your marks are not what you expect, if they are not what you are capable of, it’s because you are stressed out and depressed. It is not your fault.

    Seek out help. Speak to your Uni Councellors, call Samaritans, get a Drs appointment, speak to your Mother clearly and honestly – if you think she will help.

    Your well being is the most important thing. I have been where you are I truly wish you the best. Keep posting messages to this board, it’s a supportive space full of people who understand. You are worth so much, you deserve so much more. Take Care of yourself first.

  946. Anon:Comments163/172

    Sometimes I truly do feel like giving up Uni, I start to really stress out.

    And then I just “Think f*** the deadlines, f*** the ‘grades’ and most of all f*** the pressure, let me just do my work ‘bit by bit’”.

    I try to move forward with some kind of faith in myself. I have been suffering in this educational system for so long, stressed out all the time.

    I do not care anymore.

    I paid for the course, if I have to skip classes I will, I’ll do it my way and just move on with my life. I’m making plans to see friends I haven’t seen for ages, to go out and enjoy myself and get some kind of a life back because locking myself in my room alone just trying to study is not working.

    There has to be a better way and I just have to find it.

    And I am going to skip as many classes are I can. lol! I hate Uni but I luv this board!

    It’s tough but thanks to everyone for encouraging me and for just saying what’s on their mind and heart. It makes me feel less alone. :D

  947. @ Curly girl

    Yer social anxiety and uni isnt really the best combo :( especially as everyone in uni ( well who ive met) are very fake and talk to you only if you drink etc… but ive found away around that …
    Saving money for South Kor

  948. @ Curly girl

    Yer social anxiety and uni isnt really the best combo :( especially as everyone in uni ( well who ive met) are very fake and talk to you only if you drink etc… but ive found away around that …
    Saving money for South Korea is a good idea so go for it… im saving up for thailand… (well i have enough and its 99% a certainty im going) but right now i still have to watc hthe pennies which is hard especially when u hate uni just want to buy stuff to make you feel better but im slowly getting there!! :)

    Atleast you do no hate your course!! It woudl be worse if you did and as u said that natural talent will get you some where good in life…

    I still do not know what i want to be or do thats why my trip away after uni finishes is vital for my life id say .. need to get out :)

  949. Anon:Comments163/172

    I found this webpage ‘How to Deal With Stress’ Uni stress is particular:
    http://www.studygs.net/stress.htm

    Had a panic attack tonight. Being at home makes Uni all the more difficult. Was feeling so hopeless about completing Uni so I’m going to get some sleep and deal with things tomorrow.

  950. Thank you for the advice. I feel I should mention at this point that I have long-standing mental health problems – dating back to when I was 6 years old. I have had intensive therapy of many kinds, and been on many forms of medication at high and low dosage. Even now I am heavily medicated and receiving therapy and yet, as always, it is like rain running down glass. My problems remain the same. I am not stressed. I was agoraphobic for some years, and a year ago I considered taking a one minute walk around the corner to the newsagents an achievement. I haven’t had what you might constitute “fun” since I was 10 years old. Now I’m 20 and I’m utterly sick. The loneliness and utter hopelessness is soul-destroying, it cordons you off from the external world and slowly squeezes the life out of you. It’s so so hard to connect with another human being. To have someone talk to me or perchance to smile at me, with no trace of reluctance or derision on their faces. But it won’t happen. I have no where near the strength the make it happen myself and, ha ha, what’s the chance a human being is going to reach out to me and make the effort. In their hearts, they truly don’t give a toss.

    But I digress. University itself is just the icing on a particularly shitty cake.

    Regards

  951. Fuck the lot of it. All courses are built up to be something there not. There should be some kind of scheme where you can attend the uni for a year with out paying, then decide if its worth the money. Although it does seem pretty impossible just do exactly what you want. Id hate to look back in 20 years time regretting that i didnt stand up and do what i thought was right. Thats not to say i ran into it blindly.. it was well thought out, and it just wasnt for me. Its not for some people and thats a fact. Id rather stand up and be wrong and learn from that mistake than to carry on not questioning anyone or anything regretting 99% of the choices i made because of what other people might think, fuck it.. you are your own person, who learns and lives and your own pace. Its not about being the best.. but being inivitave and creative and to work with what you’ve got. Sorry its a bit of a rant :) Its been a long day

  952. oh yeah… i hate dubstep too

  953. I hate university!
    Iv just got 2 assignments back, and im doing a teaching degree. the “maths specialist” doesnt even know his curriculum, telling me that my resource i made for yr6′s wasnt appropriate.. even though i pulled the objective straight from the curriculum! also they have lsot my friends assignment, the accomodation staff are useless, the lecturers miss lectures, and then dont give us the information for those lectures! they dotn give us input for our assignments! my flatmates are wankers and everyone is WAAAY too immature.
    This is meant to be one of the top institutions for teaching and in my opinion its a pile of wank!!!
    lets hope this 3 years comes and goes as soon as possible! get me my life back.

    This is a great place to rant and vent. cheers guys!
    xx

  954. @ Amy

    I go to a top Uk uni and the people are either soo immature and just drink all the time to socialize or have personality defects :) … yer not good i know but take it from me the time doesnt go quickly and the saddest thing is the quickest the time goes is during the summer :( … ihope your course is going well otherwise and you enjoy it

  955. stop boasting sanjay!:P Hope you’ve not done ne work cos i aint done squat this half term :S

  956. Ah finally! THE website I can relate too with like minded people who can understand what I am going through and I understand what they are going through. I go to the University of Kent and study Computer Science….I hate my uni with a passion and I absolutely hate my shitball course. It seems my whole campus is full of arrogant twats and that’s just the professors and don’t get me started on the useless ignorant arrogant postgraduate ‘class supervisors’ who take the piss out of people who have difficulties with their Programming or Maths. Hey fuck heads, that’s why we are uni – to learn. Fucking geeky virgins need to get out a bit more and get laid rather than make fun out of the people they should be helping. Most of the other students on the campus are a mix of snobby arsewipes and slightly chavy wideboys which is quite a mix but in large all are very unfriendly. Maybe that’s just the general Southern England attitude rather than the more outgoing North. But I commute into the campus to save money; it only takes me about 50 minutes to an hour driving a straight road from the outskirts south-east London. I started university as an opportunity of a career direction. i.e. from no career, just dead end jobs to something useful and secure (if there is such a thing anymore). I am 25 and a few years back I decided to build up the courage to embark on a very tough, depressing, lonely change in my life. At the age of 20, I decided it was time to get my ass into gear and do something with my life instead of just bouncing from job to job to long periods of unemployment and self loathing. I started out doing an Apprenticeship and all I ever heard at the time from friends was how great or awesome uni was and it seem just about every person I knew went to uni and loved every second of it! which was quite a number of people. I felt like such a social outcast and in their company…(get this, I actually felt like I wasn’t worthy to around them!). I never did great at school but I always said to myself throughout my school years that I never wanted to go to university and it held no interest for me as my older brothers, parents and most of my extended family never went and everyone has done well for themselves. So two years ago I enrolled into a local college full-time. At 23 in a class full of 16-18 year olds wasn’t an easy thing as I felt so out of place BUT they were the most genuine and nicest people I met and they were all absolute characters in their own way and kept me laughing everyday and I am still good friends with a lot of them. No airs or graces about them. Straight talking and down to earth. Not many of them were interested in uni and the ones that were, were like me, doing what was suppose to be right. I studied Business and Finance and did really well, surprising since I did awful at school. I guess studying a Btec Diploma, a more practical qualification real suited me. Now all I heard was about making uni choices blah blah. So I did all what was required, (that was why I plucked up the courage to go to college) anyhow I decided I had enough of Business and decided (Stupidly) that Computer Science was a more beneficial subject…. Maybe it is, but I fucking hate it!!! I just have no interest init and it’s hard to relate to a lot of the CS students as they all seem timid or like they spend every waking and sleeping moment in a cave playing with their keyboards and joysticks as it were. My professors are so arrogant and they make fun out of people who don’t know what the difference is between an SRAM and DRAM….. who gives a fuck!!! Losers. I tried changing my course three weeks in to Economics but that department basically told me where to go as they were over subscribed and had to turn over straight A students. It was a really abrupt email. Wankers. The journey to uni seems longer than 50 mins as I dread going and end up with road rage daily. So many divvy drivers on the road it’s scary. Oh yeah, I had to do a ‘wild module’ as I was studying an Artificial Intelligence themed CS course……My god, DO NOT study Philosophy and if you do, god help you. Utter bullshit drivel and the professors were total oddballs while the supervisors were ignorant fuckwits. I wrote to philosophy essays and was basically told in no uncertain terms I couldn’t write an academic piece. I wouldn’t mind but my essays have been good enough for other modules. I wasn’t part of the philosophy majors, the end crowd as it were. They were a pretty weird bunch. So I ended up getting 39% overall, 1% below passing the module. FUCK YOU KENT PHILOSPY DEPARMENT. Bet they did that deliberate. Fuck I hate uni and all it’s social attachment crap. We all get into huge debt for what? A piece of fucking paper that’s goner tell me and any employers if I am good enough to be part of the upper social standing. It’s too late for me to pull out of it all now as that’s what people will be expecting of me and I be proving them right. It’s all bullshit and we are all being sold it with arms wide open and eyes tightly closed….Ah that felt better to get off my chest. I shall be coming on here often to rant me thinks!

  957. Dan, Great post! I thoroughly enjoyed reading it! I totally understand where u are coming from re: college – normal college people are normal and non arrogant! :) . I did my a levels normally but kept changing uni’s and hated all the courses and every uni i went to. I’m at ucl now and the people there are total wankers! They act like they “know it all” and act much smarter than they really are! What happened to chilled out modest people who didn’t boast? Why can’t people just be genuine and nice?

    Also people at ucl just tend to come to you when they need academic help or want a favour – has happened to me and i’ve seen it around – the fucking “users” i call em.

    Anyhow, i hate uni and the people so much i changed my degree from 4 years to 3 years and am off travelling this june hopefully :) – the sooner i get this lame piece of paper the better – i’m never stepping into the gay upper class world for wankers that is uni, ever again!

  958. Hey PK, I had a chuckle to myself when I read that you have noticed the “users”. That was one thing that really stood out for me at my uni within the first month after assignments were being set. The fucking users squad. There are plenty of them about on my course and it makes my skin crawl when you see them slinking round the more able computer wizkids to get their assignments almost done for them. Very creepy to watch them in action and to listen their bullshit. I got a friend on my course who is the nice guy BUT does exactly that ALL the time and goes around telling people how intelligent he is and making up every excuse in the book on why he needs help. Then also tries to change seminar classes to be with people he believes can basically creep on for help. Very annoying but maybe thats all part of this “Fantastic University Experience” bullshit we get feed…you know to be a creep. I guess that explains the top how flying bosses and government officials. What makes me laugh is how you see in all the uni booklets the smiling faces and how these people gush over their brilliant course. Bollocks! I bet they just found out the uni will give them a fat sponsership or bursary to to gush how brilliant it all is and how they amazingly have enough time to have like 8 extra-curricular activites! Hows that one work? I have the course they are doing please since they get so much free time!

  959. reading week over and i’ve done fuck all! :S. I’m so screwed… exam on thurs and loads of spanish work to do for tues and a spanish project to do! :S

    AREGHHH sometimes i wish i didn’t hate uni – it’d make doing the lame work that much more bearable.

    How’s the rest of your weeks been?

  960. Anon:Comments163/172

    Did some Uni work, made some cash this week. It’s been stressfull in some ways but I’m glad I had a week off. I’ll get the work done in time and then I’ll be free, thank goodness Spring is coming, so the weather will improve.

    Just doing what I can bit by bit. Have planned a short day trip out of town, bought a seriously cheap train ticket, so it’s something nice to look forward to. A day away where I’m not trying to finish Uni or working or dealing with whatever, just walking around having a chilled out time.

    Hope things are going well for you Rollon2011! And best to luck to everyone.

  961. What a wonderful Google find! I`m finally nearing the end of my degree, in April it will be finished, but I don`t know if I can last. I FUCKING HATE IT ALL. I used to be so passionate about learning, but it`s made me absolutely hate reading all of this bullshit. My relationship has failed as a result of doing long distance for university, my finances are dismal, I smoke too much, and am generally stressed. All of this for a fuck wad piece of paper so I can get a job – or, more likely, so I can`t get a job. Not one I`m “qualified” for, anyway. Stuck into the system of debt repayment for years to come. Oh, 18 year old self, how I would warn you, “STAY AWAY! Travel! Work! Live!”

  962. hello everyone.

    would like to say that i’ve just sent an email to one of my tutors telling her i’m not prepared to do her work and will suffer the consequences in my grades.

    I study graphic design. i don’t need to write essays. i’m a designer. not a fucking english student. I posted ages ago on this board when i was very very depressed. I went and got anti-depressants and now i can see more clearly:

    university for me still sucks balls.

    I’m starting my own clothing label and am so excited about that. I do graphic work for events in my town. This is what will get me work. Not a piece of paper saying ‘i can play the education game’. fuck the game.

    If anybody reading this feels uni is crushing creativity, then try very hard to get it back. If it might lower your grade then fuck it. Graduates these days are being employed on business skills and background knowledge not their grades because theirs so fucking many. It’s in the papers all the time.

    ALSO: if anybody reading this does suffer from depression (you’ll know if it’s you) then please please please get some help/medicine. it has helped me a lot and was no effort at all.

    never feel like your alone in disliking university. you are not. And most importantly NEVER let anybody put you down for not trying. Not your parents or tutors. you only have to answer to one person. you.

    the goal in life is happiness. if your stuck in uni like me, then ride it out and then great things will happen for you when you leave. believe this. life will get so much better.

    good luck everybody.
    braaap.

  963. I empathize with all of you.

    I have less than two months to go myself, and I’m really struggling to do the work. I’m just so burnt out.

    These past four years have taken a huge toll on my physical and mental well-being. I used to be in great shape, and now I’m a blob because of the emotional eating and sedentary lifestyle. I also feel like my intellectual growth has been stunted. I haven’t read a single book the whole time I’ve been here.

    The really hilarious part is that I know this shit isn’t even going to get me a job.

  964. PK, I feel the same. If only I enjoyed reading up on my subject and doing the work, it would make it that much easier. Seems like uni sucks your passion for the subject from you.

    Anon:Comments163/172, Hi things are going OK so far thanks. I’m starting to stress though because I constantly feel like everyone is doing better than me and seems to grasp the ideas so much quicker. I tend to go through the semester not knowing what the hell is going on but somehow I manage to learn it all in the couple of weeks before exams and actually do quite well!
    I’ve been watching the program ‘One Born Every Minute’ on 4OD. When I was younger I wanted to be a midwife and over the past couple of years I’ve thought how that sort of career would suit me much better than working in labs. Once I finish my degree I could live at home and do a 3 year midwifery course at my nearest uni. I don’t think you have to pay tuition fees and I’d hopefully be working on the ward most of the time possible earning money (?)
    This is kind of what’s pushing me on now. I’m glad I have had this experience of living away from home and fending for myself but I much prefer being home and studying chemistry is definitely not for me.

    Ahhh glad I got that off my chest!

    Your day out seems like a bright idea! I think it will put things into perspective. I keep having to remind myself that life is not all about work! I mean if you don’t do well that doesn’t mean that people won’t talk to you and you’ll fail at life! Bloody hell, we have other interests apart from our chosen subject. Things we enjoy, I’ll still be able to go shopping even if I don’t get the grade I expect!
    OK I’m mumbling now (think I’m just stalling ending this post so I don’t have to go back to my dreaded lab write-up!!)

  965. At university in particular, you learn (or at least are expected to learn) how to behave formally and maturely (okay, perhaps a little arrogantly as well), and how to splurge out within an formal institutionalized environment. But you should at least pretend to like school in order to fulfill society’s expectations. Attending university and getting a degree is the best justification there is for 17 years of complulsory education, learning things like history dates and math formula! Remember, the real value of history dates and math formula is for testing students and promoting competitiveness (which is highly important nowadays). So, to say otherwise is blasphemous towards the System. So, hurrah to the educational system!

  966. extroverted guy

    I am extroverted, but really shy! As a kid I wasn’t shy but later I was let down by people and became a bit afraid of them. However, I detest being alone. I always feel lonely when alone (except when in the bathroom lol). However I am alone and my life sucks! I have no friends at university. Everyone here is so stuck-up. I hate the atmosphere here. Guys, I have 4 dropped or failed courses and I will be studying DL in the summer. Wish me luck and let’s hope I graduate on time (Spring of 2011). All I want is to have a lot of friends, a nice girlfriend and in a few years time – a wife, a good job and possibly children. Is what I want from life too much? I don’t think so! Many guys have these things. They just don’t realize how lucky they are. But I still keep the faith that one day when I graduate and get a job I will make new friends and I will find a girlfriend.

  967. extroverted guy

    Sarah, high school is better than university.

  968. @extroverted guy

    Been there my friend… i see guys at uni with the friends and relationships i never had and dont have and i think they are soo lucky ( but they still dont appreciate it ) dont worry… I beleive one day they will feel the same as us its the circle of life lol

    You dont need to have a degree to get what tyou want and i want aswell… the happiest ppl ive met are at my local gym who have nice relationships and decent jobs and they never went to uni

  969. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Rollon2011 – It sounds like you are doing well at the lab! It seems as if you have become used to cramming at the last minute, you can clearly learn everything you need to, you are just used to working under pressure. This works well for certain people but it stresses some people (like me) out. You should ask your lecturers for any help and advice you need, your tuition fees pay their wages. I have said it before and I’ll say it again…milk it! You said that I should value my abilities, perhaps you should too… :D You are doing a chemistry degree, many people would have run screaming from the application form but you were accepted onto the course and despire everything are still there AND you have a paid summer internship at the Uni. You are clearly capable and talented in this area.

    Having said that the midwifery course sounds fantastic. What an interesting and rewarding career! Helping mothers, families and little babies! How wonderful. You can also do that job around the world, help people in all sorts of places and situations. I think that you’ll get lots of funding for that course, Nurses get fantastic bursaries these days so I’m sure that midwifes do…do some research.

    @extroverted guy – I know how you feel but just because people let you down, don’t let that ruin your confidence, happiness and your ability to have fun. I know its easy to say but you can still have fun and get the things you want out of life. So many women want to meet a kind guy who wants marriage and children, so your chances are great! Confidence is attractive, especially to potential girlfriends, so when you build that up…good times can follow. :D

    I hate Uni but I luv this board!

  970. i’ve not done any of my spanish homework :O. I don’t ever care tbh…anyone else feel that way when they do no work?

  971. I don’t know who’s worse off in a university environment, someone like extroverted guy or someone like me.

    I’m alone, but I never feel lonely. If anything, I feel overwhelmed. For me, the less people I have to be around, the better. My dream is to go live in a remote log cabin by myself and live off the land.

    I too desire relations with the opposite sex, although I’d like to eliminate this desire. One of the reasons I can’t wait to graduate is so I can get away from all the triggering visual stimuli.

  972. @extroverted guy: The educational system teaches you what to want… and it seems you learned well! Good student!

  973. right now…. i just feel lonley …

  974. milburn@118.com

    fuck fucking arse bandit shithouse… mother fucking arse of a course…….. uni and everyhitng can suck a poo! ……….. wank stain shit dickless motheinge fckerss

  975. davidshawditch

    @milburn118 … wtf?

  976. i’ve given up on uni in my last year:S. Today i went to the lecture and it was so shit i just walked out and went home. I didn’t do any work, but i just messed around on the comp. I have an exam tomorrow and cba to revise even though it counts 10% towards a whole unit! :S.

    Fuck uni, fuck people, fuck everybody! Meh. mibburn – wat’s the matter with u dude?

  977. Anon:Comments163/172 Thanks again for yours encouragement. I’ve booked a place on a midwifery open day at my nearest uni.

    How are things going for you?

  978. Wow i feel better knowing other people feel EXACTLY like i do.
    Uni makes me feel fucking suicidal, the system is soo fucked up , two months left till i finish and i have SHIT loads of essays and a dissertation to do meaning , no sleep, no life.

    At the end of my 3 years i have learnt nothing useful.
    I feel i just wasted 3 years of my life trying to get a fucking piece of paper that says I have a 2:1 with no job prospects because everyone in the planet has a degree now.

    In 3 years i could have made £45000 doing the part-time job im doing now full time. But no im now fucking £16000 in debt and have no money because I’m trying to get that shit paper certificate called “degree” which no one gives a shit about.

    FUCK YOU EDUCATION SYSTEM AND FUCK YOU FOR FUCKING UP MY MIND.

    After this shit hole degree is over, i’m going somewhere where i can hang my dick in the air like a disserted island, so i don’t have to give a shit about anyone or anything.

    Modern day life SUCKS DICK …. I FEEL LIKE EXPLODING AAHHHH … 2 More months 2 more months … don’t realy give a shit what degree classification i get now.

    All the best in life everyone, don’t let this basterd education get the best of you.

  979. Anon:Comments163/172

    Rollon2011- You are totally welcome to my encouragement, your advice really helped me out and with all your hardwork and dedication, you totally deserve it.

    The midwifery open day is a great idea! It will be a great chance for you to ask a lot of questions. During secondary school a friend of mine choose to do her work experience with a midwife and she found it so rewarding, a few days with a midwife at some point may help you to decide.

    I’m good. I have just decided to stop piling on the pressure. I have almost completed my first overdue assignment. The more pressure I put on myself during Reading Week and the more I locked myself away in my room to complete it, the slower things became. So I started taking short walks and just doing some things for myself and actually saw/called some of my friends…who I had not seen or spoken to in ages! I also stepped away from it for 2 days and now I just have to do a final draft, spellcheck/footnotes/short bibliography. Then I can hand it in, take a day or two and then move to the next essay.

    I am planning to try complete the other two overdue essays in the next month. I’m going to do the work but I’m also taking it easy, I am so sick of being overly stressed out, it is not worth it. I’m meeting a friend I haven’t seen for ages tonight and I am taking a day trip this weekend too, can’t wait!

    Have been seeing a councellor who has really helped me.

    Its not easy but I’ll finish this degree in my own way.

    Keep me posted Rollon2011.

    Best of luck to everyone on the board.

  980. Wow. I’ve gotten back all my midterms grades, and I’m practically acing this semester. The funny thing is I don’t even care about my gpa at this point. The only reason I’ve studied so hard thus far is so I can be sure I’ll graduate on time. I probably won’t even bother writing finals for courses that I’m doing well enough in to pass without.

  981. I was told when going to University I would finally meet people who were just like me. Unfortunately, I was forced to live on an all girls floor with a room mate. I’ve never gotten along well with girls and the fact that my room mate and I are literally polar opposites makes even being in my room stressful. I’m sick of sitting in fucking mind-numbing lectures with a slack-jawed look on my face all the while paying thousands of dollars just to do exactly that. Where is this actually getting me? I can feel my brain rotting in my fucking skull and I feel like I can’t do anything about it. The people here are narrow-minded, annoying and stupid- I can’t help but wonder how half of these people got into University in the first place. The lecture are not inspirational or interesting in the least bit and now I feel my identity has been reduced to nothing more than a fucking student number. HELP ME BEFORE MY BRAIN LEAKS OUT MY EARS!

  982. Anon:Comments163/172

    Have finally finished that assignment! I’m going to hand it in next week. Before then I’ll have a break today and then work on one of the essays I have to hand in.

    It’s not easy but I’m trying my best, and I have refused to guilt-trip myself and make myself feel bad about this situation. I am still at Uni despite the hate that I hate being there and I only have 21 classes left!

    I will be staying with a friend this weekend, so I can relax and feel rested for the next piece of work.

    Thanks for your encouragement Rollon2011, it has really helped!

  983. Hey Anon:Comments163/172, glad to hear you’ve completed that piece of work.

    I know it’s probably hard to see when your in the situation yourself, but the fact that your sticking this out even though your hating every minute of it is really something to be proud of!! It shows great determination and inner strength!

    21 classes! Just think every day you go into uni/stuck in writing essays is one LESS day you’ll have to go back! I think your doing a brilliant job. Good plan on having a break this weekend, it’s well deserved and like you say you’ll feel refreshed and ready to tackle your next assignment.

    As for me, I’m home this weekend so I’m happy as larry!

    Good luck to all those on here!

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  985. bristol is pretty cool, university is fucking awful. what do i do?

  986. I am a student in a university at my home country, which is a small Eastern European state. I need to take some extra exams in the summer so no vacation for me! I feel really pissed off. And I won’t go to graduation! I don’t want to see those people again. Besides I don’t want to pay for wearing that stupid uniform and that stupid hat! I just wanna get my degree and get the hell outta here. I liked most of my fellow elementary/mid/high school students, but I don’t like any of my fellow uni students. They are just too fake for my taste. I just want my degree. As I usually ignore and almost forget bad memories I am sure I will ignore my years at uni when I’m over with them. High school was a 100 times better.

  987. When this thread was started back in 2004 I was really happy. I was in 9 grade. For me 1-9 grade were the best. 10 was OK, 11 and 12 sucked, but still they were better than university.

  988. I think I wont be coming back to University after Easter. Hopefully. I totally broke down on he phone to my mum on the phone the other night. I cant be here anymore, its killing me.

  989. *I totally broke down on the phone to my mum the other night

    Urgh I need sleep =_=

  990. Curlygirl, I’m truly very sorry university is upsetting you so much. If you want to talk about it, I will be very happy to listen.

    Best Wishes

  991. Spent all this morning studying, then had to go to a 3 hour exam review, and now here I am studying some more. Life is just an unending series of things you don’t want to do.

  992. FUCK UNIVERSITIES!!! ESPECIALLY IF YOU PAY FOR IT!!!! I’m in a fucking hardass university, most of things that you should take are BORING!!! I MEAN IT!! and also it’s so hard to pass the courses WHAT THE FUCK WE PAY FOR!? WE PAY TO GET Fs! DAMN THIS! my life is ruined once I joined and paid for this shitty uni!!

    THIS IS AN ADVICE: if you don’t feel safe going a university which you pay for, then just don’t go, because if you did, then you will be stuck until the fucking end!!

  993. University ruined my health and made me lazy. The reason is too much studying. I have no time for exercises. I’m planning to start doing routine exercises in order to get in shape. I am also addicted to the Internet so my grades are pretty low. I am planning on quitting posting on message boards, blogs and social networks.

  994. @ Anon11

    Im the other way round, before uni i rarely exercised and was a book freak now at uni as i hate it soo much ive found my way of getting away from work which is the gym and ive changed so much but still dont do ne work… there is more to life than academics and uni

  995. University is the revenge of the uncool people. University is the place where being a nerd is cool! Don’t get me wrong – I was not the most popular guy at my school, I was one of the normal kids. However, I had a few friends and in 11 and 12 grade I was infamous. No I have no friends and I am not kidding – I don’t have a single friend since 2007, when I graduated from high school! In school I was more talkative, now I don’t have a person to talk to. I’ve never felt so lonely in my life. 2007-2010 are the worst years of my life till now. I hope that in the spring of 2011 I will graduate with the others.

  996. Anon 11, It’s never too late to exercise! I spent most of this year doing nothing but then realised that staying at home was doing me no good! So I’ve taken up swimming and I go rock climbing, both once a week on Fri and Sat! :) . It’s a great breather from uni stuff. I still hate uni people a lot so exercising deffo helps get your mind off things – great way to destress and meet normal people!

  997. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Rollon2011 – As always your kind words are so wonderful to hear. Thank you so much for your encouragement! I struggled to stay at Uni but I am staying and working part time too so I should feel proud of myself. It feels funny to state that but I think that I should.

    I went on a day trip with a good friend yesterday, it was just what I needed and I can’t wait to do more of them. I don’t have much cash but there are some really cheap train/coach tickets out there. I am so glad I went!

    Enjoy your time at home with your family, a well deserved break for you! And keep me posted.

    @Curly Girl – I’m glad that you talked to your Mum about how you are feeling, There is no need to suffer in silence. I really hope that you feel better soon. Just do the best thing for you.

    @PK – You’re right about excercise. I’m going to start walking more, cycling (will borrow a friend’s bike), swimming, anything that is cheap and fun to do, it really helps.

    Here’s a suggestion to students on the board: If the Uni environment is the problem and you need to leave, at a later date you could do an Open University course. It is credible and fits around your schedule, you can pay it over time and you don’t have to go to lectures everyday, you can work from home, they just do lecture-style event a few times a year for their students. There are different ways to study. Just a suggestion: http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/

    Good Luck everyone!

  998. As I focus on good things, rather than bad I don’t like talking about university life. I will remember my school years – 12 years at total. However, I will never remember my university years. I don’t focus on bad memories, I neglect them and get over them. That’s why I don’t remember 7th grade (my worst) clearly. The 1990′s and early 2000′s were better than the late 2000′s because I was in school (1995-2007). 1995-2005 were the best years. If only I could turn back time…

    By 11th and 12th grade I was fed up with school and was thinking ‘Oh, university will be so exciting!’ WRONG! Not only is university boring, it’s is a pain sometimes.

    I have no friends now, I miss my friends from school. I wasn’t too popular, but I used to have a friend or a few. I never ever had a school year without at least one friend!

    Now I am sitting alone all day, posting on message boards on the Internet. I am really addicted to the Internet. I am planning on giving up my addiction. But it’s so hard to give up wasting my time on the web when there is nothing else exciting to do.

    The worst thing is that the campus is near a boring, small town (more like a village). There’s nothing exciting to do here! I’m coming from a large city so it’s a pain for me. It is peaceful and quiet here, which is good if you’re staying for a week or two in order to forget stress from the city. However, I’m here since last week of September 2007! I go to my home city only for the summer holidays.

    Campus towns are so boring. I prefer universities from the big cities.

    I don’t wanna go to my graduation ceremony! I don’t like any of those people, I don’t want to see them again… ever!

    I thing society is totally wrong because it makes you feel guilty for preferring school over university. They make you believe high school is like hell. Well, university is worse than high school for some people. High school was worse for me than elementary and mid school, but it was a hundred times better than university.

    Even work is better than university – it can be a pain sometimes, but at least they pay you something.

  999. @anon163

    RE: open university. A better idea still is not to go back to uni after finishing it once :) . Here’s one of my favourite quotes:

    “Too much education gives you retardness of the brain” – shree the douche from big brother but I feel it’s applicable for those amongst us who hate uni :) .

  1000. Returning to yet another semester of uni tomorrow. Hooray [sarcasm]. In other words, a return to depression and suicidal thoughts. Whenever I’m at uni I feel numb, bored and/or alienated and isolated. Great. I don’t know how long I can survive this cycle before uni finally makes me lose it. It’s going to make me or break me (I can tell you, for the past two years uni’s been doing the latter). Wish me luck people, I’ll fucking need it. And good luck for all of you too.

  1001. Anon:Comments163/172

    @PK – I was referring to people who drop out of Uni and want to complete a degree at a later date without having regular lectures and fellow students around or who want to work and learn over a longer period of time. Some people want to study but on their own terms at home.

    @Evie – Well done for completing two years, you have done so much already. Please see your Uni councellor or your Dr, you don’t have to suffer depression and suicidal thoughts, Uni doesn’t have to break you. Please talk to someone who can help and use this board. My last degree was terrible but talking to the Uni councellor helped and I’m seeing a councellor outside Uni now for my current degree. Also check out my advice in 163, you might find it useful. Keep using this board, it is helping me and other people to get through Uni. Best of luck.

    Only 21 more classes people! Good luck to everyone on the board.

  1002. I warn you, this will be LONG but I just need to rant somehwere.

    Basically, I already mentioned that I have really bad social anxiety and also Body Dysmorphic disorder [I havent been diagnosed but I fit the symptoms]. I STILL havent been to any lectures, and I’ve just given up basically. I cant come back here after easter so I’m not putting myself through the pain of going to lectures. My social anxiety is at an all time low. I feel like becoming housebound is in my near future. I dont leave the house for as long as possible, until I’m literally out of food. And then when I leave, it’s horrific and I feel sick to my stomach and I have to get back to my “house” as soon as possible. Last night, I went to the closest shop, spar, to me, and it wasnt even packed, but there were a few students all dressed up for some student event probably, and I felt like an outcast. I also felt like every person I saw was silently judging me and laughing at me behind my back. There is NO POINT in me being here. I’m not working, I’m not going to lectures. And the thing is, you’d think ‘Oh, if you’re not going to lectures, you can relax and do fun things at “home”‘. But I’m so depressed and suicidal that the things I usualy enjoy, I dont anymore. All I want to do is sleep and sleep and sleep, so that’s what I spend most of my time doing.

    But everyone is putting pressure on me that staying here is my ONLY option. My parents have no idea about all my missed lectures/seminars and unsubmitted work, and how can I break it to them? I’ll just be an even bigger disappointment. My dad just called me, and kept going on about how my mum isnt well and that she could be about to lose her job, that my other brother doesnt even have a job, and so money is really tight. Basically, emotional blackmail to make me stay. It makes me feel so horrible. I WISH I could be normal and stick this out for her, but I really just cant. I know she wishes I was like my friends,all happy at uni working hard and making her proud. I’m such a failure. If I do go home, she’s going to hate me. And then with the whole money situation, I’ll need money to pay her somehow. So at first, I’ll probably have to give her all my ‘Korea fund’ [the money I had been saving for my holiday to S. Korea where I desperately want to go] and that breaks my heart enough (Basically, leaving Uni will mean bye bye Korea because I wont be able to afford a holiday there and I wont have a degree to teach there in the future). Then that wont be enough money, so she’ll force me to get a job. But with my social anxiety like this, where I can barely leave my front door, how will I work? I just want a job without people involved, like cleaning or something.

    In an ideal world, I’d go home, get therapy and work on making myself better, keep learning Korean and perhaps do an OU course like someone mentioned. I actually wanted to do an OU course for ages, since before Christmas, but my parents were against the idea. Sometimes I think they just dont want me at home because they hate me or something. But sadly, money doesnt permit an OU course apparently, even though if I’m not working I thought my fees wouldnt be much. I guess I’m wrong. I’m always wrong.

    I really feel that killing myself is my only option anymore. I cant be a burdren, a disappointment or a failure when I’m dead.

    Sorry for the essay. But oh!

    QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS:
    I checked my student record to see my exam results, but I’m a little confused over them. Is the mark a percentage or a score out of a certain amount? Thank you.

    And THANK YOU for everyone who’s ever replied to me and everyone for just commenting on this board <3

    [sorry for the million typos I probably made haha]

  1003. School is better than university. I wonder why most movies portray school as such a bad place while showing college and university as something awesome? Is everyone in Hollywood a former high school nerd?

    As for me, I was silent for three years now but I’m starting to voice my opinion how much I hate this place.

  1004. I have to recommend comment #998: please please first consider/ try the open University.

    Why?
    1. You can study from home (I bet over 70% of posters commute a long distance to Uni) – you can stay with your friends & family.

    2. The Admission is cheaper & the only commuting you will do is to places you actually want to go!! Surprise!

    3. Your IT skills will improve. Period.

    4. It is ‘green’: you save energy; & your carbon footprint – all things Uni’s are MEANT to aspire to!!!

    PS. You can transfer up to 180/240 credits possible from Years 1&2 i.e. if you passed all modules at Years 1 & 2 you can take 1.5 Years worth of these credits to the OU.

    If you only pass 180 credits you can take all of these ;)

  1005. URF. I just had a project discussion with my group mates for a module. I had put in my best, I explained my findings and research thoroughly and they can’t be bothered to read and just end the discussion by saying “Oh okay we’re just going around in circles.” Annoying bastards! I wonder why they’re in university in the first place! Why am I in university in the first place? It’s full of people who have no life besides studies! Just so because a degree can help you earn more…ARGH money is just so important in a consumer society that we have to waste our lives studying so hard just to get a degree. FFFFFF this world is SCREWED.

  1006. I’ve put in my best, and these group mates of mine doesn’t seem to appreciate. What’s the point of working so hard then? Maybe I should just shut up, because it doesn’t seem like they really care either. Everybody doesn’t bother to think. They just regurgitate information from nice people like me and pass it off as group work. ASSES. GRRRR

  1007. Curly, you wouldn’t happen to go to SOAS would you?

    Your situation is very familiar to me. I used to be agoraphobic although I’m now able to commute into London to attend university during the week. Still, it is very difficult. I’m not really able to talk to anyone. My mind is weighed down by depression and I’m functioning on quarter capacity these days. I occasionally get suicidal thoughts, too.
    The important thing is to resist the urge to wallow in these thoughts because they will eventually suffocate you. Distracting yourself is key. Alternatively, you could look into counselling services provided by the university. I will also give you my e-mail if you want a like spirit to talk to. There is a distinct cathartic benefit to airing your negative thoughts and putting them under scrutiny.

    I sincerely hope you will be okay.

  1008. Fifi Rodriguez

    Is this Curly and PK’s private forum or something?

  1009. Fifi Rodriguez

    I am going to beat up my whole group at university.

  1010. @Fifi Rodriguez – I dont post THAT much do I? o_O Anyway, this is a good outlet for me, I’m not going to apologise for it :)

    @Anon621 – I dont go there, no. Thank you for your kind words. Yes, distraction is what I’m aiming for. I’m trying to fill fill my day with things that make me laugh or things that dont trigger me, but it’s hard. And if thats no trouble, it would be nice to have your e-mail :) Talking to someone always makes it much easier, and likewise for you if you want to rant to me :)

  1011. Fifi Rodriguez

    I’m gonna bop you one, girl!

  1012. This year, I’m giving up message boards and Facebook. These social networks are for total losers and geeks. I’d rather be a gym freak than a geek.

  1013. I exhibit symptoms of agoraphobia myself. Only with me, it’s not the fear of being judged, but rather the feeling that my personal space is being intruded. I’m especially sensitive to sound and visual stimuli. There have been times where I’ve gotten up in the middle of class and walked out because I felt so overwhelmed.

  1014. @Curly girl

    Seriously dont kill yourself its not worth it, you have much more to live for uni is just shit and full of retards who think they are amazing so do not worry, yes i agree its good to vent out your anger to other ppl so if you want help let me know i dont mind :P It’ll be nice to find and talk to more people who feel the same way :)

    Sorry to hear out the Korea trip but im sure one day you’ll get to go

  1015. Anon:Comments163/172

    @ Curly Girl – Keep venting! That’s what this board is for, as you said, no apologises :D

    @semile – Glad you can see the benefits of the OU. It works well for some people.

    Whatever is happening in your Uni life. Good Luck everyone!

  1016. Oh yer i also agree with jock… i rather be at the gym then be a geek.. which isnt a bad thing as you meet a lot of very nice people there and do some thing very good for your body and mind :)

  1017. Curlygirl, my email is:

    theiosaner@hotmail.co.uk

    If you have MSN messenger and give me a time, I would be happy to chat to you through that medium as well. Oh, and everyone else is welcome to do the same :)

    Keep safe.

  1018. @Anon621 Ooh yes, that would be nice! I’ll add you to my contacts with a message saying it’s me so you dont think Im some randomer :P Timewise, whenever is fine with you is fine with me.

  1019. Hi, and thank you for taking the time to read this

    5 months ago i started university, and was really looking forward to it as i would be living really near friends from my school, as well as looking forward to making new friends. Since then i have made a couple of new friends, not nearly as many as i thought, because i chose to hang around with my old friends more than trying to make new ones. The first semester was great and i really enjoyed myself.

    However, since then, I have found that we are drifting apart more and more. They don’t seem to include me anymore, and have even made plans to live together next year without me. I try to join in as much as I can, but i feel too self conscious. I feel more awkward around them, try not to say anything embarassing or something that i will be made fun of, and worry that i am being negatively judged by them and that they talk behind my back.

    Any help would be much appreciated.

    Thanks alot.

  1020. It’s not so much the tedious workload that gets to me, but the extent to which my time and energy is being drained – time and energy that could be spent on improving my mind and body. Jobs aren’t nearly as demanding as university.

  1021. Anon:Comments163/172

    I skipped classes last week, couldn’t back straight back after Reading Week but I’m going to class today. I also spent my time actually finishing that assignment. So I’m doing what I can. Thank goodness for this board.

    Only 20 Classes left. Thank goodness!

    Good Luck everyone.

  1022. Man got a spanish test to revise for – tis driving me mad. :S. Any of you got ne cool plans after finishing uni this year? I was discussing travelling with someone who shared their experiences! I’ve got a kind of master plan :) . USA summer camp for 2 months->drive to LA ->South america -> Oz and Nz->Thailand->UK (that’s what i’m planning at the moment. The girl said it cost her and her mates 10k for the 9 months, which isn’t that bad. Can’t wait to sort out my flights, finish uni and fuck off round the world! :D

  1023. To Curlygirl: I saw you talking about the Open University, I don’t know if this will help but if you yourself (and not your family) earn under £15,000 (or something like that) then you don’t have to pay the fees. I did it myself, and I was completely confused about all the fee thing, because they didn’t make it obvious at all! Still, you pay the odd fifty pounds for admin, but you get the rest free and get a bursary. I hope that helps you’re thinking of it and feel free to ask me any questions! And you can transfer any credits too! Good luck with everything. :-)

  1024. @PK – That sounds amazing, I’m incredibly jealous! I hope you get to do it! :)

    @Mox – Thank you so much for the info. Yeah, thats what I had thought but it seemed too good to be true :P So you did an Ou course or you’re still doing it? How do you find it? :) I find the credits thing so confusing haha. How do you know how many credits you got for a module?

  1025. @Mox is this for a 2nd degree or for a first degree?

  1026. Anon:Comments163/172

    Handed in my first overdue assignment today!

    The woman in the exams office was so difficult…I had missed out two ‘codes’ and she went on and on and on and on about how she’d sent out emails to everyone about it and what a naughty school child I am and blah blah blah. She wasted my time and her time by making me ‘guess’ what to add, looking through lists of codes. As she was going on and on I figured out which codes I had to add to the forms, found a pen wrote them down and got out of there as quickly as possible. Her job is her problem not mine…once I realised that I stopped being so pissed off and started to feel good about the fact that I handed in that assignment and will never had to deal with it again.

    Went to class for the first time since Reading Week today as well, it was a presentation day so no actual discussion which is great because I didn’t want to hear people yack on and on. :D

    I’m in a better mood and just managing things bit by bit. Work are trying to pressue me to work next week but in all honesty I don’t want to. I want some cash but I want to get Uni work out of the way so I’ll do what I think is best for me.

    I hope that everyone else is getting on well. Rollon2011, how’s it going?

    Only 19 more classes to go!

  1027. Anon:Comments163/172, she sounds a right pain. Hate it when people are unhelpful like that. Why can’t they realise how much pressure we’re under and give us a break! Your right she obviously isn’t happy with her job and is taking it out on the people she is supposed to be helping!

    Anyway give yourself a pat on the back! Another piece of work handed in and in a few weeks you’ll be done!

    I missed lectures on Monday (my car broke down when I was at home) and today I really couldn’t be bothered to go in cause I was too tired! BUT I have some work to do that needs handing in tomorrow and work due in for Friday so I’m going to have to get it all done. This weekend and next I’m visiting family and the weekend after I’ll be home for Easter so it’s all good.

    I had my first counselling session last Thursday. At first I thought it was a waste of time but towards the end I thought we were getting somewhere. He reckons my anxiety rises when my housemate/friend puts me down (she’s very critical) and apparently I don’t deal with it in the right way. So hopefully he’ll help me out this week.

    Good luck everyone!

  1028. Anon:Comments163/172, thanks for your reply. And I agree with Rollon2011 – that lady’s the one with the problem, an attitude problem. Good on you for seeing that and not getting worked up about it (god knows I’d have been irritated). More so, congrats on finishing your paper!

    Rollon2011: Nice to hear that counselling is working for you. I tried going to a counsellor at my uni once. But I ended up not being able to tell her everything. I just said basic cliched stuff about how I found it hard to get to know people at uni and that I wasn’t really enjoying my course. But I didn’t mention what I was really there for – suicidal thoughts, cutting and depression :/ Admittedly I was worried they might put it on my record or tell my parents. So unfortunately, I still have these issues bottled up inside. At least I can vent on here I guess.

    Meanwhile, can anyone else relate to just not feeling motivated all the time? I procrastinate so much. I just want to avoid uni work or to escape sometimes. I know I’m ruining it for myself by doing so. But I just feel so dead tired. Like nothing is worth doing. Even though I know they should be. I’m just not feeling it yknow? Thanks for reading my rant, whoever.

    Till next time – hang in there people.

  1029. To Curlygirl and PK: Yeah, it’s my first degree and I’m nearly finished… in my last year of it now. What year are you guys in? I’ve liked it with the OU- they’re pretty good at giving feedback and help, it’s hard making yourself do it sometimes though! But then I did a year of ‘normal university’ first and transferred my first year credits… and it was still just as hard making myself do the work then! :-)
    I know what you mean about the credits… it took me so long to work it out! With transferring the credits, because I did a year it was easy enough…but I’m not sure how much separate modules in my first year were worth- I think the Uni might tell you. But if you’ve only done some modules I think the OU still take that into account, and with them you can take courses for like, ten, thirty or sixty credits.
    I hope this makes sense and that you guys are okay! :-D

  1030. Third day at Griffith Law school, wtf have I gotten myself into?

  1031. Anon:Comments163/172

    Firstly thanks you so much to all the people who have replied to my messages and contributed to this board. You have all helped and encouraged me so much with your stories and strategies for dealing with Uni. It’s tough but it feels good to know that other people are suffering too and finding ways to deal with it, or at least trying to get help.

    Thank you so much and I wish you all the very best of luck.

    19 Lessons to go! I am counting every single one. Few weeks left until I have a ‘summer break’ then exams, a few lessons, a dissertation and sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttt freedom :D

    @Rollon2011 – I was annoyed at the woman at first but I just saw through it. And to be honest after I calmed down I felt proud of myself for sticking it out and bought myself a slice of cake to celebrate. I don’t have much cash but it felt good to have a little treat. Really good. :D

    Well done for persevering, I know that you’ve skipped some classes but that’s just how it is sometimes. Your commitment to getting the work done is inspiring to me. Chemistry is clearly tough and I admire the fact that you are still working away despite everything. I’m glad that you will get to spend time with your family soon too. It’s good to be around people who care about you and encourage you.

    I’m really trying to stay in contact with friends by seeing them when I can or chatting online or through phone calls. It’s good to be reminded that some people really do want the best for you.

    As for the councelling. Well done for going. You’re making the effort to help yourself, it is great news. I’ve found that it’s best to be totally honest about what you’re feeling (it is confidential after all) and to set some goals for yourself in terms of reducing stress/anxiety and raising self esteem or dealing with whatever it is that is troubling you. It sounds like the next session should be more helpful because you’ve met with the coucnellor once and he has already identified a key issue you have. I hope it goes well. And don’t be afraid to cry. I have used so many tissues in councelling. lol. They have lots of experience and have heard so many stories and (hopefully) helped lots of other students. As I said, well done for going. Hopefully it will work for you otherwise you can ask for a different councellor, or speak to your Dr about councelling or call the Samaritans. Whatever helps. Good luck with it. You’re doing so well Rollon2011!

    About the anxiety thing…I think some of my anxiety has stemmed from negative comments from my Mother and all the pressure I have put on myself.

    Recently I have been trying to build up my self-esteem, now that I have she’s less negative and even all that heartache with my ex has gotten so much better. And most importantly I feel so much better and I am takign care of myself more. I’m not lossing weight anymore, I am so much healthier now because I have really tried to eat well and be more active and more positive. It is not easy and I do get depressed asometimes so I don’t always manage it but it is worth the effort.

    As for my ex apprently he misses me now…the irony. When Uni is over I’ll be in a better position to date and meet someone new who treats me well. You were right, it’s not about him, it’s about me living my own life.

    @Evie – Hey thanks for your response! I was irritated, angry even but I didn’t say anything. I wasn’t rude to her because I could see that that’s what she wanted. It would have given her an excuse to ruin things for me…for her to ‘ask’ me to leave the office or to ‘lose’ my paper. I just figured out what I needed to do and handed in the work. It’s not worth shouting at people, I got what I wanted after all. And I didn’t lower myself to that level. I don’t enjoy being mean to people…however annoying they might be. So that’s one less thing to worry about, and as I mentioned, I bought myself a slice of cake afterwards to celebrate. It sounds small but it made me feel so much better. For the first time in ages I felt proud of myself. Which means a lot to me.

    As for the Councelling As I advised Roll on 2011, honesty is the best policy, the service is confidential and they are there to help you – your fees help to pay their wages. They can only help if you tell them what the problem is. Hopefully they can help yopu from their, if not there are other councellors and services available to you. No need to bottle things up and like you mentioned, this board is here so you can vent.

    As for your last comment/question about motivation:

    “Meanwhile, can anyone else relate to just not feeling motivated all the time? I procrastinate so much. I just want to avoid uni work or to escape sometimes. I know I’m ruining it for myself by doing so. But I just feel so dead tired. Like nothing is worth doing. Even though I know they should be. I’m just not feeling it yknow?”

    I deal with this everyday. Check out my postes 918 and 163 which deal with motivation and how to improve the Uni situation. Hopefully they will help.

    Right now I am motivated by the sense of achievement I’ll have when I finish, whatever my grade I will know that I have stuck it out and completed the degree, despite hating Uni. That’s my long term motivation.

    Short term, I think of how much fun I will have this summer when the sun is out, people are smiling and I’ll be free from classes, working a bit, taking short trips away and doing things that I enjoy doing – that have nothing to do with Uni. I’ll just have a dissertation to do – which I managed during my first degree and even that will be handed in in September. I remind myself that Uni will end later this year, so it is temporary. And that I will have more fun and more free time very soon.

    And I’ll get to travel after that as well. I hope that helps. And I am crossing off the days and weeks.

    Thanks to everyone and best of luck.

  1032. Anon:Comments163/172

    @PK – Your trip sounds great! Go for it. ‘STATravel’ can help you to plan it and your friends sound like they know a lot about travelling.

    I am taking cheap day trips at the moment and trying to chill out at home or with friends when I can. When Uni is over and I have more time to work, my finances will improve I’ll def take my trip to California.

    @Mox – Well done for staying focussed with the OU course, it takes a lot of discipline, but as long as you’re happy, all the best with it. I’m glad that people who don’t earn much can study for free!

    @Brendan – You’ve done 3 years at Law school – well done.

  1033. the 2nd year ...

    the 2nd year does not get any better.

    get out of your uni/ change your course while you can.

    you will never get these, the best years of your life back – when they’re gone they’re gone.

    how do you want to spend them?

  1034. I went to STA travel today and the estimated cost of the flights is like £1550 and the total inc food and accommodation the lady estimated to be £8000. I told me mum and she wasn’t happy but I need a great from the mundane real world (both uni and work) before I get a job i think!

    Anyone here done travelling round the world alone? I was thinking of going alone and was wondering if it’d suck big time cos doing stuff alone is kinda boring…. I hear lots of people travel alone in oz but i’m not sure about round the world. I’m just looking through these travel brochures and it looks amazing!

  1035. We were all misled by our family, friends, and teachers, and we lacked the forsight and personal strength to go against these pressures.

    In early high school, I quit the one thing I excelled at and enjoyed, the thing I lived and breathed, the thing that got me out of bed every morning. Why? So I could focus on getting good grades.

    Now I’m miserable and probably won’t even be making as much money as I would have if I slacked off in school and pursued my passion instead.

    So to all the kiddies out there reading this, don’t work hard in school. Don’t study. Just do enough to get by(unless of course academia is your thing). Meanwhile, figure out what you’re most talented at and enjoy and focus all your energy on that. Don’t just be another ant-like drone.

  1036. @Brian, Very well said. Totally in agreement! I’ve wasted 5 years of my life being in and out of uni and i’ve had enough. I’m leaving this year and starting to live my life. Being a geek is pointless. Everyone reading this just chill out and screw homework and studying and all that bollocks.

  1037. I have realised that since being thrown into this social shark pit my personality and behaviour has changed. Before I got stuck here I was quiet, well set in my roots and happy. I like being introvert and I like spending time with myself more than others.
    Now I am surrounded by all these characters, all we do is get drunk/stoned every night and this causes me to act differently for obvious reasons, I have lost my roots and dont know who i am anymore. Im alot more egotistical, and I fucking hate it but its nearly impossible to be anti-social in halls. Therefore people just start to think of me as some kind of joke, I dunno if im paranoid but I swear my new ‘friends’ all hate me, laugh at me rather than with me. I put the pieces together in my head and it hit me pretty hard, realising that you are a dick laughing stock. So fuck this man, why should I feel the need to impress others just to inflate my ego, people have no respect for me. I dont even want to know anyone anymore, wish I had never come to this hell hole and done my own thing, made my own path and found myself. Im starting to think I have a personality disorder

  1038. The lectures are so poor quality and so boring. The handouts they sometimes put up online teach you more than the actual lecture. Most of the time, it is simply not worth the effort commuting in. They might as well just e-mail the essay questions.

    The bastard lecturers are arrogant and lazy. It takes them to long to mark anything. Half the time, they don’t even mark it. They just pawn it off on a post-graduate student. So I am paying thousands for a few inadequate “lectures”, where my efforts are held in such low esteem that other STUDENTS get to determine my future. What hurts most is that these postgraduates aren’t much more competent than me. The last one made obvious errors in his comments and I’ve bitched at the lecturer to get up off his ass and look at my essay. It’s been a month now and he still hasn’t looked at it. It would take just 5 minutes for him to just run his eye over it and spot the glaring errors. But no. The poor guy can’t find 5 minutes to spare in a whole month. How does he find time to eat and sleep with such a hectic schedule? :( In the meantime, it’s just my tuition fees and future being flushed down the drain.

    The feedback they do bother to give is extremely basic and uninformative. Just a few sentences and tick boxes. You could be making the same mistake repeatedly and it would never get highlighted. It is a complete joke.

    Why, oh why does the university only buy one copy of key texts for its library? They recycle the same damn essays every year, which require the same essential books, yet the library only sees fit to buy one copy of each. So every year they have a class of 50+ students fighting over the same book. The sensible thing to do would either be the lecturer to photocopy key passages from the book (HAHAHAHA)or for students to organise and SHARE. But that would be too easy. Instead, some cunt runs down to the library and borrows the book for two weeks (often returning it late)so no one can use it. You suggest to the librarian that given the circumstances, they could order 1-2 more copies of the book and they look at you like you’re dog shit. You can’t realistically buy all these books yourself as they are hyper-expensive specialist academic texts. They are too rare for local libraries. You ask the librarian, well can I order the book in from elsewhere? Hmmm, no they are a bit iffy about allowing mere undergraduates to use such rarefied services! Begone stripling!

    An essay I’m working on at the moment: I found out the tutor who set it has actually got the set books from the library himself! No one can get at them.

    The whole thing is a complete farce. Just what I am paying thousands of pounds in tuition fees for?

  1039. To Anon621: I totally get what you mean about the lecturers! My first year at Uni was very much the same…and I’ve heard loads of other people didn’t get stuff marked for ages either. I used to get comments that I didn’t even understand! I agree, how can the lecturers possibly be that busy?!
    Also, I had the same thing with the library in my first year too…I could never get hold of the books I wanted.
    Still, I hope you’re okay and that your lecturers at least start to look at your work. What year are you in?
    :-)

  1040. Anon:Comments163/172, thanks again for your reply. I’d love to read your previous comments, but for some reason I can only see the units digit on the comment number?! Does anyone else have this problem? Is it a glitch or something on the page? Basically it’s really annoying because all the comments are numbered either 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0 – because the tens and hundreds units aren’t displayed! Can anyone tell me how to fix this? I can’t find the right comment number to read, otherwise :/ Thanks in advance.

  1041. ok nevermind, i found a way to make the numbers show… even though it’s really strange because it involves changing the page to right-to-left read instead of left-to-right. but at least i can see the comment numbers now :) dunno why i can’t see the whole number in normal mode

  1042. I find it amazing how university converts some of the most amazing & interesting & on the leading-edge-of-thought subjects like quantum mechanics, quantum dynamics & mathematical computing, into boring daily routine garbage like cooking and ironing. FUCK OFF UNI I HATE YOU…..

    5 days in I FUKIN HATE UNI…. i dont know/dont think im gonna get out alive. I studied hard at school for THIS?!?!? WTF!! Lecturers are dumbasses with poles up their asses, the nerds im with have NO LIFE….. no one is out there to make friends , i have NO FRIENDS, all the chicks i’ve met are totally not fun….. I H8 uni. And ALL THE THINGS IVE SACRIFICED FOR STUDYING HARD AT SCHOOL AND GETTING INTO A UNI WITH “PRESTIGE”….ALL THE FUN IVE MISSED, THE SCHOOLIES/springbreak I DIDNT GO TO BECAUSE I DIDNT HAVE ANY FRIENDS COZ I WAS STUDYING, all the chicks at school I could have got with or started a relationship whom i prob will never see again…. I went through 4 months of isolation waiting for uni to start & start a new page, BUT IT FUCKING SUCKS.
    I waste 3 hours a day travelling to and from uni to hear a dumbass arrogant prick economics lecturer who cant even write a correct equation to a fukin linear graph (and noone has the balls to tell him hes wrong) AND HE HAS WRITEN A BOOK WHICH WE HAVE TO BUY: FUCK OFF DUMBFUCK

    FUCK OFF UNI,!!!!!! Our world is turning into George Orwell’s 1984……..

    & Where’s all the guy-girl relationships & sex??? I saw it on American pie, Legally Blonde etc…..movies did that to us in order for university to appeal to us, but the reality is nothing like that……..KIDS READING THIS, DONT STUDY AT SCHOOL, THERE IS NOTHING IN IT FOR YOU UNLESS YOU WANNA LEAD A BORING ASS LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO TO YOUR PARTIES, DATES, MOTORCYCLE RIDING ETC………DONT DO WHAT I DID OR YOUR FUCKED!!!

  1043. Anon:Comments163/172

    Yesterday’s class wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. It’s was alright. I think I’m just doing the bare minimum so I can leave that place. I used to be outgoing and really interested in education, but that’s how it goes. Anyway it was ok and I don’t have much longer to go.

    Have some more assignments due next week but I’ll get them done and also have a great time with friends this weekend.

    Only 18 Classes to go! :D

    Good Luck everyone.

  1044. Anon, you finally got me so jealous that i’ve actually bothered calculating how many classes i’ve got left! 10 classes left! Beat that mofo! I didn’t realise it was so few:D i’m truly elated! :D 10 mother fucking classes left then end of all these fucking shitty batty uni lectures I waste my time going to! I have a 1 month easter break during which i’m getting a 1 month climbing pass and goign climbing twice a week! :D .

    I’ve narrowed down my travel plans too…oz, fiji, nz, thailand, and possibly somewhere inbetween :) .

    Travel people – it’ll keep you sane! FUCK UNI! FUCKING HOMO CUNTS BANGING EACHOTHER THE SICK FUCKING BATTY PRESTIGIOUS UNI BASTARDS!

  1045. @mox, sorry for the late reply – just read your reply – i’m in ucl doing geophysics…i hate it so much. It is so boring and it’s driving me nuts cos the people are so fucking boring and i hate everything about uni – the people, the course and everything! I got 10 more lectures and cant wait till it’s over:D!

  1046. @Mox
    Thanks for the info again! :) I’m in my first year now, but I dont plan to come back after Easter so thats why I was wondering about the whole credits thing. I really like the sound of the OU, as that why I’m still getting a degree and could maybe try and earn some money at the same time. Not long til the end of this term, I’ve been crossing the days off on my calender. Good luck everyone!

  1047. I planned to do work… BUT have done nothing i cba its too shit we havent learnt ne of the stuff on the sheet so whats the point…

    PK… i also do geophysics at UCL wow coincidence

  1048. In my last comment, I mentioned submitting a complaint over the competency of the university’s postgraduate rent-a-markers. Well, my complaint was finally reviewed and they ruled entirely in my favour. Yes, it was a major cock-up and so my mark flew from a weak 2:2 to a strong 2:1. Interestingly enough, the lecturer himself had still refused to read the essay himself. It was the postgraduate who had to re-read the thing and admit he made a half-assed and disrespectful job of it. But he didn’t actually apologise for nearly wrecking my hours of hard work and university career with his cavalier attitude. No, it “wasn’t his fault” and he had “good reasons” for scrawling untrue and inaccurate remarks on my work and then giving me an illogical assessment. The lecturer maintained solidarity and tried to back him up. He also hinted that I should keep my mouth shut in future.

    Fortunately, I have precedent now and a weapon to skewer the bastard with if he tries it again. Unfortunately, I have probably made an enemy for life and will have to avoid his tutorials.

    But it is still a victory!

  1049. @Anon 621, i’m not surprised. I think it happened to me over the last few years. I was kinda gutted by a 2:1 i got cos the exam was piss easy so i complained, but they do fuck all. They’re all a bunch of inbred wankers who believe people closer to them academically than us. i.e. lecturers beleive postgrad over undergrads….fucking inbred wank system. Tbh, I can’t be arsed arguing about any of my marks anymore cos once you’ve got a mark, you’ve got a mark and it’s so much hassle trying to get it changed so much so that it’s not worth the hassle, for me anyway. The sooner i’m out of uni, the better!

    @sanjay! Woh, ucl geophysics. I might know you:O. I hope you are not posh and arrogant like the rest of the ucl tards :P

  1050. Man I love university. The predominantly white culture, smells and food everything about it is just fantastic.

  1051. Anon:Comments163/172

    So I have a few weeks of term left and lots of deadlines. I could stress out and make myself ill again or not. I’m choosing not to stress out. I just want to finish the work and move on without hurting myself through stress and worry and guilt.

    Am having fun wioth a friend today, will study tonight and as much as possible. I will get through this thing! 17 Classes to go! And Easter break is 3 weeks away!

    @Rollon2011 – Hope all is well with you. Your comments are still helping me. Thank you.

    @Anon621 – Well done for making the complaint, you knew that someth8ing wasn’t right, I’m glad you got the marks you worked so hard for.

    @PK – 10 Classes isn’t much. I have extra classes in a lesson I actually like so it’s ok. I can’t wait for Easter break too!

  1052. I need to get out of uni!!!!!! Seriously I have turned into a fricking zombie! I have no fun anymore, i can’t go out with friends seeing as my essays have piled up my soul and happiness at the moment are non-existent! AAAARGH I HATE THAT I GAVE UP MY PASSION OF DRAMA IN SCHOOL TO GO TO UNI AND DO A DEGREE ‘WHERE I AM GUARANTEED A JOB AFTER’ I mean it’s not doing anything for me! I’m worse off by taking the standard route that everyone takes! Damn I regret my decision all the time and wish I could go back to change things! I have to suffer 2 and a half more years of this BS till Im free. Seriously, uni=prison.

  1053. I feel you, Shamone. I gave up my passion too… and for what? Not only am I worse off than I would have been if I pursued my passion, but I’m worse off than the slackers who were never passionate about anything.

    Prison’s a good analogy. I always thought of uni as room 1408.

    2.5 years? God help you.

  1054. shamone! Soz to hear about your predicament, but trust me workload gets less and less, well at ucl it does. I’m in my 3rd year and i’m doing like less than half the work i did in my first year, lol! I’m not sure wehther that’s due to me having given up on this uni bullshit or due to the work just getting less, but either way i totally agree with u:

    Uni is life ruining! Fight the zombie! Like it’s better to have a break than to not go out and become a zombie etc! Like chill out more is the best advice i can give u:) – fuck it if u miss a deadline or two – your mental wellbeing is much more important than some lame piece of paper that is a degree, anyday!

    peace, and chill okay! :)

  1055. i hate sydney uni

    Hi Curlygirl,

    I’m a little behind the 8-ball on this one so I don’t know if you’ll read this or not, BUT you mentioned that you wanted to go to Korea?

    Well, you DON’T need a degree to teach English there!!

    There’s a program (legit by the way; you get to the site via the Korean Embassy and I heard about it from my Korean professor) which lets you teach English there with ONLY 2 YEARS OF UNI STUDY.

    I know 2 years is a long time but if you’re careful to choose subjects you like (eg: if you like Korean, why don’t you do an Arts degree and choose Korean Culture subjects, Linguistics, Korean Language, etc etc…) then it’s definitely doable!! Hard, but doable. And if you have a goal at the end of it (ie to go to Korea) then it’ll be a lot easier, too.

    Anyway, here is the website if you’re interested:

    http://www.talk.go.kr/

    It’s called TaLK and while the pay is pretty bad, if you just want to go to Korea it’s a really good opportunity!!

    Anyway, hope that helps somewhat :) and good luck with your uni! 화이팅!

  1056. Anon:Comments163/172 glad to hear your not stressing. I was on the verge of getting stressed out tonight but managed to control myself!!

    Really enjoyed being away from uni for the past three weekends. It means I’m rushing during the week to get the work done, but it’s like a mini break and the weeks seems to go quicker. This weekend I’m visiting more family and then the weekend after it’s Easter!!

    I’m giving up on the uni counsellor. He really didn’t help me that much at all. Depending on how I feel this week I might try another but not sure yet, think I’ll go back to my doc as I think I know what the problem is.

    18 classes to go anon? I’m very jealous! Hang in there!

  1057. @i hate sydney uni
    Thank you very much for the link! I’d never heard of this program before! 감사합니다! XD

  1058. RMIT Sucks!

  1059. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Rollon2011 – Not stressing isn’t easy, esp when (like me) you have been doing it for so long.

    Am so glad about your ‘mini weekend breaks’! It’s great to have time out with people you care about and who care about you.

    As for the Uni councellor, you could try another or your Dr. Speaking to someone helpful can really help. One of my final classes has been cancelled! Yey! So only 16 lessons to go! :D

    Best of luck everyone!

  1060. 1 down, 9 to go….beat that anon:P – you’ll always lag me in the lecture count, hehe :D

  1061. i hate sydney uni 2

    @ I hate sydney uni….

    I hate sydney uni as well!!!
    I have no friends, no fun or anything, all my friends of school are in my vague memory, all the good times have gone, so I just study in order to keep me from getting too depressed……..

    I thought uni was supposed to be the light at the end of the tunnel…. but its not. The tunnel never ends I dont think, because after uni its work, which is probably worse….

  1062. @the sydney people…is it just sydney uni or sydney? :P I’m going travelling there later this year and hope oz is not as shit as uni….long shot i know but may be possible, lol

  1063. @ PK- Sorry for the late reply too! Wow- Geophysics sounds hard, but then again Science is not exactly my strong point! How do you find the lecturers? Are they all really up themselves? Mine were for my first year- infact one nearly made me cry! Still only ten more lectures- good for you! I bet you can’t wait until it’s all over….I’m the same! What are you thinking of doing afterwards? :-)

    @Curlygirl- First year is always really hard I think…it takes so much getting used to. Still, if you can do something better after Easter then good for you! I hope you manage to find something that you like. Do you have any idea what kind of job you want in the future? The OU is definitely good for doing the work at your own pace, like choosing how many credits you want to do, and it gives you time to work as well- also you can pick modules that will hopefully be interesting! Anyway, good luck with everything too! :-)

  1064. mox, i’m going travelling after uni! Everyone spent their money on booze and parties. I’m spending my 3 years of loans on travelling:) – USA, oz, NZ, fiji, thailand, cambodia, possibly malaysia:)…i’m keeping an open mind about the trans siberian railway too! I’ve heard it’s amazing though! Need to do more research.

  1065. People think I should go on to grad school. Yeah right. When I get out of this place in a month, I’m going to do be doing all the things I should’ve been doing these past four years, like getting buff and reading. I’m not going to waste another minute listening to some snobby prof and memorizing meaningless facts from a PowerPoint slide.

  1066. @Brian: You should go travelling. You should also talk to sanjay on here – he’s into the whole getting buff thing, lol:P. We both hate uni and when we leave in a month we’re going travelling – i’m going to the USA to teach kids to climb + travel, and he’s going to thailand to do some random training thing.

    Either way just being out of uni forever is good in itself – what a waste of 5 years of my life!

  1067. @Brian: You should go travelling. You should also talk to sanjay on here – he’s into the whole getting buff thing, lol:P. We both hate uni and when we leave in a month we’re going travelling – i’m going to the USA to teach kids to climb + travel, and he’s going to thailand to do some random training thing.

    Either way just being out of uni forever is good in itself – what a waste of 5 years of my life! Best of luck with whatever u do next Brian.

  1068. Yes uni is crap and it makes me go mental… the other day i was having a really good day and was in uni walking around and i suddenly got a headache and went crazy lol .. it turned into the worse day makes me hate my life … Yer as Paras said i do the whole buff thing during uni its the best time if you hate it a good release … and its not some random training thing!!! its muay thai!

  1069. Anon:Comments163/172

    Hi everyone,

    Am taking time off work for a while and today off Uni to get some more work done. It is hard to be and to stay motivated but I’m doing my best to get the work done. Music as a background really helps.

    Handed in another assignment recently, it was a small one (still have 2 overdue essays) but it felt good to complete it and hand it in. And I will complete the rest.

    15 lessons to go and just over 2 weeks until Easter.

    Best of luck to everyone.

  1070. Anon:Comments163/172

    I can’t wait for it to be over. The day I hand in my last essay and just leave. Will be so great and such a relief.

  1071. So today I travelled a 100 mile round trip to resit a 40 minute Java exam….. It was harder than the first time, lying fuckwads. But to my suppress there was alot of people taking the resit. So I didn’t feel to suicidal but still I struggled along and fucked it all up.

    For a change I had a my old post grad supervisor quietly dropping me hints on my code (not like I knew what he was talking about!), but I really starting to worry now, I hate my course and would rather study something I feel I be interested in – NOT something that will provide better career prospects since I doubt I get anywhere with a third.

    I am in my first year, my question is, should I stay or should I go? Should I just stick it out for the four years or change course after the academic year is up?

    I just don’t know what to do anymore. I think I am losing the plot…..

  1072. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Dan, I have been in your position, twice now and it can be hard to decide what to do next.

    I considered ALL of my options namely stay, go or transfer and I made the best decision I could. I suggest you sit down and calmly write down all your options and consider what you are actually interested in. You can also speak to your student councellor and the careers advisor to work things out as well as any helpful family members and friends.

    At the moment try to keep your grades up so that if you do transfer to another course they can let you straight into the second year and you won’t have to repeat.

    And your post grad supervisor sounds pretty cool, maybe you can talk to them also…?

    You don’t sound like you’re losing the plot, sounds like you are doing your best.

    Best of luck!

  1073. Anon:Comments163/172

    10 more lectures. Am not looking forward to going today but I’ll go. I really can’t wait for this to end, for everything to be handed in and for me to just go and never have to be in that building again. I’m looking forward to moving on and really living my life.

  1074. Well I haven’t posted here in ages but thought I would check in. Glad the site’s back. Today, I had my last lecture and seminar of my 3 three year BA. Still got my final project and a portfolio to do, but other than that it’s nearly over.

    Having no more lessons is a strange feeling. I have started applying for internships, but quite glad I haven’t been accepted by any of them yet as the final project is going to be a substantial amount of work.

    Also, been trying to get out of my contract with the current house I’m in, as I want to do my final project back home. Been difficult but we’ve got someone coming to view my room on Monday. So far we have had 4 viewers but everyone seems to be too poor for it up here in the north (Coventry). If anyone wants a double room here please let me know lol.

    On the girl front, I haven’t talked to any of the girls that upset me ever again. I haven’t talked to the first girl I talked about ages ago for 2 years. I haven’t talked to the second one for 2 months now. It’s good to finally get rid of the leeches on my life.

    Overall, I’m reasonably happy with everything right now. Got everything working exactly how I want and making a lot of progress on my final project. I know it sounds cliché, but my advice to others that are hating uni is to keep on trucking. There is an end, and it tastes so delicious! Oh yeah, I’m going to Alton Towers on March 29th too. I recommend short events like these to give you a little break from the norm and reward for all your hard work. Good luck everyone :) .

  1075. Well I haven’t post there for a month, Me too , four more lectures plus 2 presentation next week.
    OIn the girl front I get rejected by a girl which I fancy 2 years ago.
    I know nothing about job application and i have been hoping to apply for an msc to buy time except that my referee are taking ages, admisision at birmingham is crap.
    I need to fight because I want to graduate with at least a 2:1.
    Good luck everyone

  1076. Anon:Comments163/172

    One more week left before Easter, a class has been cancelled so 3 more lessons until Easter.

    Good luck everyone.

  1077. Anon:Comments163/172

    Hey everyone! This website has become so hard to access these days. What’s going on?

    Anyway Easter break has finally started, only 5 more classes left!

    I’m struggling to concentrate on essays, am really trying though.

    How are things Rollon2011?

    Best of luck to everyone.

  1078. Anon:Comments163/172

    Easter break has started, I’m finding it hard to actually study, I start and I feel so disheartened. But I’m marching on and trying my best.

  1079. Hello

    2nd week of easter and im soo bored.. Trying to revise and do a project but they are coming along very slowly … wish i just did a little qualification after school or just got a job

  1080. Thanks the LORD!!! I thought I would never be able to get on this site again and I’ve still got another year left, where the hell would I be able to let all my frustrations out!!

    I emailed the site owner and he’s managed to get it back up and running (thanks for that JP!!!).

    Anon:Comments163/172 long time no speak! I have done zilch all Easter but I’m trying not to stress. Still got 6 weeks of lectures and 3 week exam period so should be able to catch up.

    I’m trying my hardest not to put pressure on myself to get a first. I’m hating my course more and more. Hate my lectures and hate labs, so how can people expect me to get a first? Not that I’m getting pressured into doing well because I’m not at all. I tend to put the pressure on myself.

    I know what you mean about attempting to study and feeling worse for trying! Remember…in a few more months you’ll be all done. Your soooo close!

  1081. I’m sat here now with all my books in front of me, pen and paper at the ready and still cannot bring myself to read a word of this crap. I don’t care about quantum mechanics or the failure of classical physics!

    I find myself getting annoyed at people who enjoy this subject! It’s awful! I’ve still got the open day for midwifery but I’m reluctant to start another course in case I still feel the same way.

    Like some of you guys who are looking into travelling, I’ve been looking into going to australia for a year on a working holiday visa. I get annoyed at myself for being too homesick so I figured I would have to get used to being away from home if I was on the other side of the world!

    I hate being so bloody confused!

    Hope everyone is OK :)

  1082. PKon 10 Mar 2010 at 15:21 @Brian: You should go travelling.

    I don’t enjoy traveling, but I can understand the appeal.

    I must say, this past month has been the longest of my life. I’ve basically passed all my courses except for one. I need around 30% on the final. However, I’m so burnt out and unmotivated at this point that it’s going to be a struggle to even score that. Then again, what’s one more week of hell, right?

    Looking back on these last four years, I fail to see what was supposed to be so great about them. All I recall is nonstop stress, lack of quality sleep, and stress-induced health problems. Yay! Isn’t university great?!

  1083. As Winston Churchill would say Brian – “If your going through hell, keep going”

    I can sympathise with everything you said in your last paragraph. I guess you just have to turn it round and think that although it wasn’t the most enjoyable 4 years you’ve ever had, you stuck at it. I think that says a lot about you as a person. I think employers appreciate this too.

    All the best :)

  1084. I am so fucking glad this website is back! What happened!!!!!!! I spent many an hour browsing the web for an alternative group to no avail! ARGH….Easter is shit, I have to do a dumb project and revise for exams….depressing as hell…I randomly decided to climb a mountain next april:O. It costs £1350 for 20 days but i get to do my first 6k peak :D . How cool is that? Maybe one day I will get to do Everest :) .

  1085. Hey PK mountain climbing sounds ace!

    I’ve done nothing in the three weeks I’ve had off. Back to uni tomorrow as well.

    Anon:Comments163/172 can you please re-visit this forum!! I want to know how your getting on!

  1086. Anon:Comments163/172

    Hey! Thank goodness this web page is back! I have missed it so much, it’s been so hard to login and post, great to see familiar names and to be in the company of people who understand.

    I have done some reading but I have several essays to write so it doesn’t feel like enough. I have really struggled to motivate myself over Easter and I feel like by doing something or nothing I’m failing in some way – either way. A position I have been in, a position that I’m sick of being in. But I’m trying to support myself and get out of that self-depricating attitude. I’ve felt like that my whole life and I know I have to stop attacking myself and putting pressure on myself.

    Also my sister has been home over Easter and we’ve had such a laugh and so much fun! It’s been great to have the company of someone who loves and supports me fully.

    It’s tough I feel like I’m forcing myself to work when I could be doing so much more, doing what I really want to do. I’m an artist and I can’t make things or afford the materials I need (because I can’t work too much…as I’m trying to finish Uni essays and do exam prep and I’m barely covering my expenses/fees). It feels like I’m caught in a Catch 22. At the same time I will feel as if I’ve accomplished something when I finish (whatever the grade) because I really am not enjoying it and my heart isn’t in it. Hmmmmm.

    I really have to pick myself up and take care of myself.

    I made the decision to finish so I’ve decided to just chill tonight and make another effort tomorrow.

    I’m still missing my ex but a lot less and I’m glad about that because I know I deserve so much better.

    At least all the classes I hate are over and I just have a few extra ones in a subject I actually like.

    @Rollon2011 – Thank you for your encouragement and concern I really do appreciate it. I think you’re well, very well infact and midwifery is an option so it travelling, look at all your options and do what you feel is right. Working/travelling in Australia is a great opportunity, there are New Zealand and Canadian visas too…all sorts of options so just take your time.

    One thing I’ve learnt is that I truly am young, free and single with so many opportunities ahead. Even though Uni feels like a burden it will end, I will hand in work and do exams and complete my dissertation and I will never have to walk into that building again.

  1087. Hi Anon:Comments163/172, wow well everything your telling yourself to do I need to do too! But it’s soo hard.

    I think I’ve hit an all time low. I hate this. I can’t stop thinking that I’ve still got a year left, my last year and surely the hardest yet? How the hell am I going to get through it?!

    I hate the feeling of failure and that’s all I feel. It’s a no win situation. I tell myself I don’t care what grade I get and so what if I do rubbish in exams/lab reports, but the truth is I don’t like people to think I’m stupid.

    My love life is non-existent. I’ve never really had a long term relationship as I’ve never met someone that I care that much about (!). I have never loved someone and this is starting to worry me on top of everything else. Yes people say that the right person will come along, but I don’t see it happening any time soon. Especially as I don’t help myself and get out much!

    Anyway that’s enough of the self-invovled-ish-nesh!!

    Glad to hear you had fun with your sister Anon:Comments163/172. Maybe a bit of a break over Easter will have done you good. When exactly do you finish uni?

  1088. anyone think a dedicated facebook group is a good idea incase this site down again?

  1089. ‘Rollon2011on 09 Apr 2010 at 22:11 As Winston Churchill would say Brian – “If your going through hell, keep going”

    I can sympathise with everything you said in your last paragraph. I guess you just have to turn it round and think that although it wasn’t the most enjoyable 4 years you’ve ever had, you stuck at it. I think that says a lot about you as a person. I think employers appreciate this too.

    All the best ‘

    Thanks. I sure hope you’re right and these last four years weren’t all for naught. I have my doubts though.

    I’ve never had a love life either, so I know how painful that can be. It’s one of the reasons I plan on getting into bodybuilding. From what I’ve seen, it’s perhaps the most viable solution guys like us have. There’s also the added bonus of stress relief. Maybe you should consider it.

    So I arrived 15 minutes later to my final yesterday and left 2.5 hours early, giving me just enough time to circle all C’s for the multiople choice section and answer one open-ended question. I’m thinking of skipping my next one altogether. At this point, a pass is a pass.

    Has anyone else completely stopped caring?

  1090. Its been 4 years in my uni life and i have contributed my piece in this blog every year about how i hated university, but the truth is that it wasn’t university that I hated, it was the fact that i felt misplaced and isolated from everyone else. My first year I didnt bother with anything or anyone other than just attending classes and head home the minute class was over, this made it miserable because all i could think of was the next boring day in class with the not so energetic prof and pointless assignments and projects. But then, for the next couple of years I got involved with clubs and other general activities around the campus and it was the most rewarding thing I ever did. It gave me the chance to be part of something and get a sense of belonging, 2nd it took my attention away from studying those boring books and put my energy to helping others and lastly with the fun project and activities you get from joining clubs. You get a sense of accomplishment and the fact that you contribute your free time for a good cause.

    Time is valuable. University life only sucks if you do not make the best of it. It can be boring, tedious shore for you or you can make it exciting and adventitious. Get involved, meet people and MAKE IT fun guys!! that’s all I can say.

  1091. I’m a girl Brian so I don’t think body building is for me! I should really start jogging again but I conveniently left my trainers at home! I have given up on the course. I have no interest in it but will learn whatever I have to to pass these exams.

    Amed, you talk a lot of sense. I know I should get out more and take part in more activities but I always seem to have so much work to do and I feel generally down most of the time, hence don’t want to go out of my comfort zone. But I will try and change that in the next few weeks…

  1092. @ Brian… Uni got me into bodybuilding and the whole fitness thing so i have to say its the only good thing to come out of uni… that and the thai land trip ive booked to do muay thai :) /… otherwise uni is shit i mean the people r awful… BUT dont think going to the gym will get u a girl those secrets have still passed me :P But i dont mind i have good health and more to come and do get a lot of random compliments about my build ( even though im never happy with it)

    Id recommend starting now the longer u postpone it the less likely you’ll do it… it takes a lot of commitment to get where you want in the gym world :P PK would know ive bored him to death with gym talk.

    As i said before (i think) i dont drink,smoke go clubbing partying or even go out at night (mianly due to tiredness of the gym) and i dont mind it i enjoy relaxing in the evenings thats just me so we’ll see what happens

    @ Rollon2011..

    You can still go to the gym and do weights and not beocme a bodybuilder.. the best looking women ive seen (not uni chick) at my gym are the ones who do light weights aswell and endurance cardio so go for it !!!! ( if you want).. takes a lot of time and determination..

    Ive never had a love life either but i rather think about myself atm like gym and getting the body i want then to be with some girl from my uni who i wudnt really care about why waste my time and hers? I mean up till a few months ago i used to think the same but then i realised im better then all those couples and ive had guys (with girlfriends) wanting to train with me and go out but im just not that type of guy i like my lone space ..

    Well only a month or so to go then im going on my ultimate fitness/retreat holiday (haven’t been on a holiday for years)

  1093. Anon:Comments163/172

    I’m just trying to finish the work I need to finish so that I can move on. I am not happy about Uni. I know it and my friends know it but as I have decided to finish, I’ll just find a way to finish. I keep reminding myself that the sooner I finish the essays, the sooner I’ll say goodbye to the course. Although that doesn’t motivate me in the way that I would like it to, by filling me with energy, part of me is relieved by that truth but this will end and I’ll be able to live the life that I actually want to live.

    I finish in September officially – that’s when I hand in my dissertation. I’m looking forward to early May because that’s when I have my final essay deadlines. *Sigh* Still have overdue work to hand in and that makes me feel like not bothering at all but I’m not the kind of person who starts something and doesn’t finish it and this will be over in a few months. I keep reminding myself of that, it will be over soon!

    Mostly I’m looking forward to the summer when I can go out more, travel a bit, make some cash and have some fun. Summer 2010! I’m going to try surfing and any other fun sports as well as start going to Latin dance clubs (I luv Salsa!) and try some new things. I will be able to live again, go out a lot and enjoy myself. To be honest I am so tired of being down, it’s not what I want or who I am.

    @Rollon2011 – The worst thing about the final year is the pressure, you are more than capable of doing the work but the stress of it being the final year is what makes things harder so if you manage that aspect, the rest will be fine. You are more than half way through your course and you seem to want to finish so stay strong. I know it’s tough but as you seem to want to finish you should do it for yourself.

    Like you said to me…you are NOT a failure. Not at all. You’re doing a really hard subject that you don’t even enjoy and you’re still hanging in there, plus your Uni can see your abilities, they are paying you to stay over the summer, that’s a massive compliment and credit to you.

    As for love, don’t feel bad plenty of people haven’t have long term relationships. As you mentioned, you haven’t been going out much, when you do go out you’ll be giving yourself a chance to meet new people and hopelly some interesting attractive guys. :D

    Do things and go to places that interest you and live your life. But don’t feel guilty about having never been in love it’s not a matter of ‘blame’, that’s not how it works, and being negative about it will just cause more stress and bring you down further which isn’t helpful at all. When you do go out, have a great time and just see who you meet. Also you’ve never been heartbroken which is a great thing! Being negative or impatient doesn’t help but being positive does. Anyway start thinking about you’re ideal match and bear in mind that you can only ask for what you have, if you want to be with someone who is upbeat, positive and has a nice smile you have to be…

    I’m only just recovering from my heartbreak now. I still miss my ex but I can’t wait to start dating again, I want to meet quality men :D And enjoy the actual journey of dating different guys. I am young free single and attractive, I have been hiding myself away, that’s over now. Summer 2011!

    I’ve gone out a bit recently which was great and I always get compliments and have a good time, felt strange but so good to go out again, because I luv socialising. Hmmmm.

    Best of Luck everyone!

  1094. Anon:Comments163/172

    @PK – Mountain Climbing sounds like a great idea!

  1095. Anon:Comments163/172

    After this degree I will finally be free, free of the stress and pressure to ‘succeed’ according to other people’s standards. Jumping through academic hoops has nothing to do with what I want from life, who I want to be or what I can achieve. I will truly appreciate my freedom and actually make the art that I’ve always wanted to make but been too scared, insecure and bullied out of making.

    This whole process, along with all the things that have happened in my life have shown me that I truly have to pursue my passion and use my talents, I have a degree already and rather than being brave, saving cash and buying the materials I needed to make art – which I’ve wanted to do since I was a child – I was pressured into yet another academic institution that I can’t stand.

    I want so much more and I’m going to work hard to get it.

    Good Luck everyone.

  1096. Good on you Anon:Comments163/172!!

  1097. “Jumping through academic hoops has nothing to do with what I want from life, who I want to be or what I can achieve.”

    Your brain is trying to find the “bad guy” and it has settled on your academic institution. It’s too bad that you’re too simple-minded to realize that it’s more complicated in that. Give yourself a couple of years out of university, and I’ll bet you’ll know what I mean.

    That said, I expect that moving on from school will generally be a good thing, so congrats on that. I just don’t think your academic experience had to be “jumping through hoops” – you conceptualize it that way. You could easily have conceptualized it as “how can I take the best artistic part of myself and incorporate it into my learning? Any good school will allow you the option to incorporate your own perspective on life to an extent, as long as you see beyond your own perspective to a broader view at the same time.

  1098. Mark what you say is true…. yet the issue is if you choose a course you outgrow… or one that is too far ahead of yourself… then in the first scenario you might enjoy the first one & a half years & then wish to move into a new area… yet you will not receive a degree if you do so… or in the second scenario it may take you longer to get up to speed than you thought and you score good marks too late to make a good degree… like if you study highly-theoretical subjects…

    The point is the semester moves at a pre-defined speed… with topics laid out each week… it might be the average speed though it isn’t going to synchronise with everyone’s interests… for some it may be a nightmare; others engaging; & then again attending may be mundane & repetitive…

  1099. Semile,

    Why should the semester synchronize with everyone’s interests? When I get up in the morning and go to school/work do I feel happy at every point during the day? How do I deal with a boss that is having a rough week and takes it out on me to some extent? What if the project I’m doing with work is of little interest to me but the work I do will be very beneficial to many others? (example: perhaps I’m a radiologist who grows bored of studying patient charts. I still love helping people, but I get bored easily. How can I overcome this boredom? Should my employer find some way of making this job less boring? That would involve more research, research way may/may not always be exciting for the researcher. See my point?)

    There are many jobs in the world. As children we are often pampered, and (many of us) grow to believe that the world will bend over backwards for us, or should somehow provide us with a position we enjoy. The reality is that we have to bend over to please the world just as much as it may bend over for us. University is a realistic representation of this. If you are able to handle 4 years (a small amount of time given a life perspective) of focusing on one particular field of study, you are proving that you are reliable and able to focus on an area EVEN IF THERE ARE ASPECTS OF THAT AREA THAT YOU DON’T PARTICULARLY ENJOY. That is what university proves, and that is why it is structured the way it is.

    As far as your scenarios are concerned, I don’t know what university you are attending, but mine allows me the option of picking my course of study at any point during the course of my degree. As far as I know this is pretty much the norm (for an arts degree anyway). Science degree I expect are similar. It is only the specific degrees like Engineering, Medicine, etc., that fix you in. And if you get into these programs, you have little trouble with the academic environment and should be able to decide with maturity if you want to pursue study or not. AND, if you for some reason decided you did not want to do medicine after, say, 2 years, you could use courses in medicine towards a science degree, as electives in a BA, etc.

    If you somehow choose a field that you find out later is too difficult, you should be able to transfer as noted above. While I respect comments on here and I understand what it is like to be in university and be depressed and not fit in, I also realize that there are ways to fix yourself and rise above your situation. I know that I have always had the power to change my situation, even if that should mean leaving university for a while. University is a mature experience, and as you note that it is “pre-defined,” your attitude towards university should be pre-defined. You should do your research and find out if it is really what you want before you go.

    I don’t accept “outgrowing” or work that is “too far ahead” as valid “excuses” for not continuing to go to university. If you have “outgrown” a subject (which I assume you take to mean you have become adequate in the subject), how on EARTH is this a BAD thing? That means that you are exceptionally good at something, and you will likely get exemplary marks. Good students know that there is always more to learn, and it is the task of education to take what you already know and compare it to new material; and there is ALWAYS new material, because the world is dynamic.

    If you the work is “too far ahead” of your current level, I have a couple of things to say. First of all, university is structured so that this situation shouldn’t happen. If you do all the prerequisites, you should be more than capable; it is just a matter of doing the studying/work. Secondly; if the work is difficult, you should be able to compensate with extra studying. You are given plenty of time in university to study. Adjust as you go.

    At some point in our lives, many of us decide to give higher learning a try. When we make that decision, we are accepting the responsibility of working with an organization to improve ourselves. It is a complicated and difficult process, but it is a process that any healthy and mature individual can handle. Furthermore, if we find that it would be more beneficial to take some time off of university for a while, we are given that option within the span of a 6-month period.

    What many of you fail to realize is that you’re young, and you still have a lot of days of WORK ahead of you. Working isn’t half as fun and lenient as university can be if you apply yourself. Of course, work CAN be fun, but the illusive “dream job” is over-rated. You don’t decide on a passion and then follow it and eventually land your dream job, instead you struggle with your current interests and they eventually lead you down a path that you can’t possibly foresee in your youth. The more you apply yourself (even to things you have no interest in), the more you will learn to actually APPRECIATE a variety of disciplines (appreciation for knowledge seems more exclusive than inclusive in this thread) and the more VALUABLE you will become to the world, and yourself.

    If you want university to be inclusive, you have to have an inclusive attitude towards university; even when it appears exclusive towards you.

  1100. “What many of you fail to realize is that you’re young, and you still have a lot of days of WORK ahead of you. Working isn’t half as fun and lenient as university can be if you apply yourself.”

    Jobs are just as boring as university. However, they’re generally not as stressful and don’t take over your life to the extent that university does.

    With a job, you do the same mindless (but easy) task for eight hours a day, and then you’re “free.” With you university, the work is much more intense, and every waking moment is spent stressing about this or that class.

    Maybe your program just wasn’t that difficult. For me, having a full-time job will be a breath of fresh air compared to what I had to go through these past four years.

  1101. @Brian
    I totally agree with everything what Brian has said, university does restrict what I want to do. Mark you are right on some aspects but you sound like a troll.

  1102. Anon:Comments163/172

    RollOn2011 – Hope you are doing well. Your advice has been so helpful and appreciated. Many Thanks! How are you doing?

  1103. Hello Anon:Comments163/172. I am doing OK thank you. Managed to get some work done tonight. Had a busy day in the labs and have to go in again tomorrow :( At least the weekend will soon be here. How are things with you?

  1104. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Rollon2011 – I meant to ask, would you like my email address? Hope that’s you’re ok. I’ve managed to get back to essay writing recently. I’m just trying to be more positive about things. All the best.

    Good Luck to everyone on the board!

  1105. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Rollon2011 – Hey! Great to hear from you. Congrats on getting some work done, you mentioned that you’ve found it tough so well done.

    I’m OK too, I’m so glad that the weekend it here! I’ll be working (really need the cash) and I’ll visit a really good friend too, he might even make me some dinner. :D

    What are you up to? Have you started going out more? You mentioned that you wanted to. I hope so, there is so much more to life than just dealing with Uni, have some fun too! I have to start going out again and really boost my ‘love life’ too. :D

    Whatever you do, I hope you have a great weekend. Also. Thanks for emailing the guy who maintains the webpage, it was down for ages.

  1106. Anon:Comments163/172 it would be great to have your email address. That way if the system crashes we can still keep in touch.

    Ooo wish I could have someone cook my dinner for me! Might have to ask my mum to visit!

    I should really start revising for exams this weekend but we shall see how that goes. I’ve been to the pics this week and I am planning on going for a walk with a friend on Sunday so I am getting out of the house and doing things non-chemistry related which is always good!

    How many lessons have you got left?

  1107. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Rollon2011 – What can I say, I am touched by your comments and your concern. I’ve been ignoring Mark’s sanctimonious comments.

    I feel better because I have decided to leave Uni so I won’t be visiting the board so please do stay in touch by emailing me here: talk . free @ hotmail . co . uk

    You really helped me when I needed it and I do appreciate it. Thank you so much.

    @PK – All the best, enjoy the mountain climbing, sounds like so much fun! Thanks for your comments and suggestions, really appreciate it.

    Good Luck everyone!

  1108. Anon:Comments163/172 thanks for the address I’m going to email you now :)

  1109. hey guys, sorry im new but really just need to vent

    im now in my last semester here in my 1st year at manchester university, and i just didnt want to come back… im studying history, which was something i thought i was good at and interested in but im slowly finding myself just looking at things in history just to write bloody essays, so after ive wrote them i have no idea what the hell they were about, and as they caused me so much pain writing them i never want to know again. i have 3 essays in for this week, one where the lecturer gives us far too much information on a topic and no help when you ask for it, another where i didnt even want to do the topic (marxism), it was just assigned to me and i have to write at least 4000 words on it, and another crappy 2000 word essay on ancient rome, which is interesting enough but im just losing the will to live with it all.

    im also doing a module in beginner’s spanish, which is 3 fucking hours from 5-8 every tuesday, meaning i miss dinner (im catered, ill moan more about that later). now i wouldnt mind too much, but the teacher is so so so crap that when asking what a word meant in english she told us… in spanish. bloody fantastic. and its all just shit loads of grammar, so its boring as hell, and the people in my class are the biggest tossers i have ever met. they either know a bit of spanish already, so if im struggling they get arsey, or theyre complete misogynists who will use every opportunity to use spanish phrases to say how they got laid at the weekend or just want to buy beer, bastards.

    on top of the crappy work i have to do im finding myself seriously not caring about doing well anymore. the whole “fuck it, 40%” thing is mentioned about 50 times a day, and quite frankly its all i feel motivated to aim for. im literally doing this year to get into next year, and it sucks because my school basically claimed there was no other option but to go to uni straight away, but my friend has had the most amazing gap year, and i cant help but think if i had one too i wouldnt have started uni so naive and much more clued up about what i want to do.

    so yeah thats the work but i hate (sorry guys im having a massive rant here) but the work thing would be fine if halls life was much better. ive been shoved into this place called “the mall” in the halls “owens park” in manchester. now owens park has the reputation of being “sociable” and the “party halls”. this basically means that if you are a bit of a posh chav willing to get smashed and destroy the place you have to live in every night then you will be fine with the socialising. as it happens i like to be able to live in a clean environment, and yes i drink, but i dont use that as an excuse to be a vandal.

    there is absolutely no information on the place i live in the mall on the internet that is useful, and as for the social thing here it is completely segregated from most other halls, meaning youre stuck with who you live with. great. this would be fine too, if it wasnt for the fact that without exception every guy ive tried to make friends with has tried it on with me, or ends up just ignoring me completely, and the majority of the girls will barely give you a second glance, or will be really nice and friendly on one occasion then completely ignore you or give you evils the next minute. see im not the sort of person who parades myself around to get guys to like me, and quite frankly at home guys are really respectful and just lovely people, so im just left feeling really uncomfortable when im walking around halls wondering what the hell the guys are thinking when theyre walking past me. i just want to be somewhere i feel i can walk around in comfort, somewhere friendly.

    and ok the food… right i applied for all self catered ensuite rooms (stupid, i realise now, but you’d think they’d have given me one or the other! no, im stuck sharing a bathroom with most of my halls people (im on the 1st floor so its “handy” to use my loos…) and even though im admittedly a terrible cook i think i could do much better than what they give us! last semester they somehow managed to give food poisoning to the VEGETARIANS, and the food they give to us is generally some mystery meat, soggy veg and potatoes. lots of potatoes. oh and pasta. so as its the only thing really to eat im stuffing myself with shit loads of carbs, meaning ive put on 2 stone since coming to uni!! and im really not the sort of person to put on weight easily, looking back on pictures of me at the start i was a little stick, uni has sooo ruined that!!!! And we are paying shit loads for crappy accommodation and shitty food, and they dont even feed us at the weekends, and the breakfasts are so early (7.30-9.30) and dinners so late (5.00-7.00) that you have to buy more food anyway!!! so you save NOTHING!!!!

    seriously the only things good about this place are the small amount of friends i have made, i have some amazing people in my hall (4 out of over 100), and i have made a handful of amazing course friends (although the one guy i thought id made friends with ended up pulling me, running off, then tried to pull my best friend, so needless to say another bloody friendship lost!), but at the moment most of the people i love in halls arent back yet, and my course friends live really far away, and i feel locked in my room thanks to the stupid amount of fucking work i have to do!!! :(

    now im a happy bubbly person at home, and having been at home for 3 weeks around people i love and who love me i realise that i am good with people, and im certainly not a recluse, but this place has made me scared to leave my room in case i get judged by one of the tossers in my halls the second i leave my room. im really only here to live up to my brother (i love him to bits but the bugger was Britain’s brainiest kid when he was 12 ((itv show)) and the title sort of stuck. great for me!), so when im feeling this unmotivated to get involved in anything and work hard i just feel like a failure, and i feel like a failure for not becoming best friends with the mass of twats in my halls too, even though i have been repeatedly told by my amazing friends at home that this is ridiculous.

    ARGH I JUST WANT TO GO HOME!!! (sorry again for the rant, cheers if youve actually managed to read this! :P )
    xxx

  1110. Anon:Comments163/172

    @CurlyGirl – If you still visit this board I wish you the very best of luck. You were having such a tough time and I really hope that things have improved for you.

  1111. Hm. For some reason, I can’t copy and paste anymore. I guess I’ll just truncate the quotes I’d like to use to save time.

    Jonifoor said: “im studying history…”

    This is why I don’t recommend studying something you’re passionate about in university, unless it also happens to be something that can get you a job. You may enjoy learning about a subject in your free time, but taking it in school will surely kill any intrinsic joy you’d usually get from it.

    For instance, I love philosophy. I took two philosophy courses in university and hated both of them, mainly because our grades were based solely on our ability to memorize and regurgitate the prof’s lecture notes. Not exactly my idea of fun.

    “…the work thing would be fine if halls life was much better.”

    Dorm life was hell for me, so I can sort of understand where you’re coming from. However, it seems we suffered in different ways. You didn’t make as many friends as you wanted to, while I just wanted to be left alone. The guys at your uni treated you like a plaything, while the girls at mine never gave me the time of day (or just wanted to be friends). I think being surrounded by sexy young women that I couldn’t have traumatized me just as much as the pressure to graduate.

    “…the food…”

    You’re right about all it being all carbs. If they were serving stew or something, it wasn’t uncommon to have just one tiny piece of meat and the rest sauce/potatoey mush. I must’ve gained close to 50 lbs. in first year, and I’ve kept it all on. I’ve also felt sluggish this whole time, and I’m sure nutrition has played a big part in that. And to think we paid $10 a meal for that slop!

  1112. You know, I’m not even at university any more. It was just a blur. I did history for three years at york and the truth is, I hated every moment of it.

    I graduated in July 2009 and since then, I’ve been living with my mum just working in a clothes store for 6 pounds an hour.

    I’ve complained about it so many times like a broken record, but I feel that we are educated for knowledge and skills rather than for enthusiasm. I have no aspirations or enthusiasms for anything in particular, and uni did very little to fix that as well. It’s just assumed in life that you’re interested in accounting, teaching, music, academia, law, medicine or whatever bullshit. But there’s nothing inherently interesting in any of it. My sense of purpose was finally snuffed out by the mediocrity and loneliness of my course as I was surrounded by every type of twat you could imagine at a university. The rahs and so on.

    The ex dumped me to go to uni in a different city, no doubt shes been engulfed by the disgutingly naive fresher mantra of forward thinking positivity. Probably having the shag of her life with some massive black guy or something right now.

    Yes indeed, I hated university and I hate the persistent melancholy that has followed since. Teaching courses are full, I dont want to be a lawyer, or an academic or an accountant.

    Remember kids, the utopian idealised image of a degree advancing career prospects is a hollow one. It works if you’re just another societal drone, but for the broken fall-offs like me, its a waste of time. University guarantees nothing, and its totally destroyed by original vague interest in history.

    Bring on the apocalypse…

  1113. “Remember kids, the Utopian idealized image of a degree advancing career prospects is a hollow one. It works if you’re just another societal drone, but for the broken fall-offs like me, its a waste of time. University guarantees nothing, and its totally destroyed by original vague interest in history.”

    You are an example of the many who live in a world limited by perception.

  1114. Mark whats your story? Remember people should practice what they preach. If you can show evidence why Uni. is making your life so good & demands others step in your footsteps for their own self-interest, then please say.

    Basically,
    If your a millionaire in your early twenties I’m sure listening…
    especially if your coming to the board to hire…
    Y’know otherwise :/ you might want to take advice from others more successful than yourself… & chill out as it’s already tried & tested that insulting/ passive aggressiveness will not bend people to your will….

    Only making people enjoy something will lead them to continuing with it… (though like I say above provide evidence your enjoying your life so much & then people might be interested… even taking insults from someone paying me a 6-figure salary would be fun because your appealing to my own self-interest (& my humour))

  1115. Semile,

    I can’t decide if university is good for all these people complaining about it or not. That’s for them to decide. I’m just suggesting that most can turn their situation around. I know what it’s like to be caught in the situation, and I know how to get out of it. I thought I could help others with that, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to lie and say that it’s easy to step out of a difficult situation.

    “it’s already tried & tested that insulting/ passive aggressiveness will not bend people to your will.” The way you say this makes it sound as if I’m trying to force people to do what I’m saying. I’m not. I’m offering my opinion, and if anyone wants to actually dispute the stuff I’m saying, they’re free to. When people prove me wrong, I concede. But few are even trying to speak directly to what I’m saying and instead are coming up with general comments about why university is bad, and treating me like I don’t belong here just because I have an opposing view. Thankfully you are not doing that in your comment.

    “If your a millionaire in your early twenties I’m sure listening…
    especially if your coming to the board to hire…” – No offense, but I expect that this is the last place a millionaire in his 20s would come to hire.

    “chill out as it’s already tried & tested that insulting/ passive aggressiveness will not bend people to your will.” I don’t much care what people decide to do. My goal in coming on here is not to “bring people over to my side.” My goal is to present a reasonable argument for those that are interested. No matter if my argument is presented in the form of sweet talk or aggressively, my points still stand. People can decide whether to believe them or not, or to argue back, or to ignore them (which personally I find to be cowardly). I would not consider myself to be passive-aggressive. There is nothing passive about my argument. I am completely upfront about my beliefs. “Passive-aggressive” behavior is better described by people that come on here and avoid addressing my issues directly, instead trying to generalize my points (without reading all my posts most likely) and figure out how to combat what they think is my general stance.

    As I said above, I can’t decide for you if university is right for you or not, but I sincerely think that it can be a beneficial experience for you. Each case of discomfort is different, and there is no point for me to make a general statement like “if you just start paying more attention in class you’ll get better grades,” because it’s obviously more complicated than that. But, I think that when you rehabilitate your life, you can learn to love university.

    To be honest many of the comments on here appear naive to me. While I’m sympathetic to the very real struggles of university, I realize also that we are accountable for our own reactions in life, and coming on here and saying “FUCK UNI!” and “MY PROF IS AN ASSHOLE” doesn’t really accomplish that much. Not to mention the logical annoyance of the literal meaning of the phrases; “MY PROF IS AN ASSHOLE!” – really, is he? Was he just born an asshole and always will be one? Do you know him in person? Do you know what he’s dealing with in life? Do you know what it’s like to teach a class of naive narcissistic brats on a daily basis? Is there any value, ultimately, in your life, in calling him an asshole? If you make a kinship with others who have hated university, do you feel proud about the fact that you hated the whole experience and there are others who agree with you and made you feel better? Does it really matter at 35 when you’re working a shit job and your boss is much more of an asshole than your prof in university who you only had to see for one class? Wouldn’t you have rather given more work to your your coping mechanism in university and improved your efficiency level by learning to enjoy the process of university? I can guarantee that at 35 the reaction “my boss is an asshole” will have about the same effect that it does now in this message board: nothing. Of course, if venting makes you feel better, you’re welcome to do it. But note that there will be individuals like myself that cringe upon the simple naive forming of the phrase “my prof is an ASSHOLE!” When it comes down to it, the statement holds virtually no value for anyone reading. I couldn’t give two shits that your prof was an asshole.

    I just hate whiners. If your situation is bad, your complaining about it serves only to promote more complaining and more shitty performance. I’m more interested in change; changing your habits, changing your mind. Do you know that our brains are actually structured so that we grow into the people we think we are? If I have learned to deal with negativity for 2 years in my life, I will have neurons in my brain that are structured around these negative thoughts. By complaining about my situation I’m using the same negative areas of my brain, when I could be out changing my environment and promoting growth in a positive direction. Would you want to continue thinking along the same shitty lines that you have been for years, or would you like to rise above your current situation (with work) and eventually excel in life?

    Anyway, back on the more positive side of things…

    “Only making people enjoy something will lead them to continuing with it…” – I can’t say generally what will work for people unless i know their specific situations. Personally, just having accomplished my degree has made me happy. Just the feat of having gotten through it is rewarding. I expect I’ll have more luck getting a job than those who haven’t got a degree. I also have a diploma, so that looks good. I’m planning to move with good friends to a big city, and I think that this lifestyle change will help obliterate the negative feelings I’ve felt over the past couple of years. For those that are deciding to leave in the middle of their degree, I am sympathetic. It does take guts to leave in the middle, and when it comes down to it if you are finding it that bad it’s probably a good decision. Spending time away from the environment will allow you to grow in a positive direction. You can always return. It is staying when you feel bad that can really fuck up your life, because shitty marks = doors closing. If you want to do your masters or go on to medical school/engineering school, etc., if you have good marks you can do this, but without good marks you’re screwed.

    Despite what all the nay-sayers on here say about getting a degree, It’s beneficial if you work at it. It has changed the way I think in a positive direction. The abstract (seemingly-irrelevant) work has helped my reasoning abilities. As someone who is artistic I’ve gained an artistic knowledge of works that can be beneficial to me in the future. Generally I’m more positive now that I’ve finished. I’m excited about job-hunting and I’m approaching it the same way I would approach a research project. Could I do this without the degree? sure. But I generally feel more confident and I am more experienced with the degree, and I’m not exclusive like some people are; I’m open to anything including opposing opinions.

    There are those that argue that a degree is fairly useless. I don’t think it is if even only simply for the fact that society places so much emphasis on getting one. However some people may not be knowledge-oriented, they may be more practical/tactical, and those individuals are valuable in a way that I’m not. For them it makes sense to not get a degree and I empathize with that side of the coin.

    Like many things in life, you are best off approaching university with an open mind. When you arrive and find out that the environment is difficult and/or fairly shitty, you’ll shrug it off and find positive ways to deal with it and even actually enjoy it. I think a lot of people think university is supposed to be this amazing experience and are let down. That’s unfortunate, but come on, you’re adults now. You have to deal with shit. You don’t have your parents anymore to pat your head and tell you it’s all going to be alright.

    University is proof that life can be shit or awesome; it’s all up to you. You are accountable for your reactions to situations and your decision to endure or jump out. Whining about it isn’t going to change what it is. Approaching it differently just might. There is value in what most profs preach, even if there appears to be little value to you. There are good and bad profs, but your attitude about the situation can allow you to tolerate even the most eccentric profs. The world owes you nothing, but you can give back to some of the world. Think about that.

  1116. I imagine if you crossed paths with one of your history profs while at work, the conversation would go something like this:

    LTB: Professor Douchenozzle, how’s it going?
    PD: Do I know you?
    LTB: I took your course, History of Middle-Earth.
    PD: That’s nice.
    LTB: Yeah. Say, I was wondering… do you know where I could get a real job. Perhaps there are some openings in the history department or something?
    PD: You gotta be kidding me. You know your degree is worthless, right? In fact, I’d say you’d have been better off skipping university altogether and going into the workforce directly from high school. That being said, my colleagues and I thank you for paying for our 50 ft. yachts. Now show me where I can buy a ****ing shirt for my kid, you pissant.

    I’m not ripping on you. I’ve been applying for jobs lately, and I’m finding out that my hard science degree from one of those “prestigious” universities is worthless too. We’ve all been duped.

    This is a great quote:

    “Remember kids, the utopian idealised image of a degree advancing career prospects is a hollow one. It works if you’re just another societal drone, but for the broken fall-offs like me, its a waste of time. University guarantees nothing, and its totally destroyed by original vague interest in history.”’

    The amount of brainwashing we’ve been subjected to is astonishing. It’s been pummelled into our heads from kindergarten that we have to go to university and that there aren’t any other options. Many people don’t belong in university though. I’d go as far as to say that most who end up going don’t belong there.

  1117. The easier way to deal with controversial threads is just to pick out the parts that you like first & share things in common…

    once you realise & first accept you share things in common you’ll ‘communicate’ much more & before you realise you’ll understand each others position in a completely new light… & I guarantee the differences will unravel & resolve themselves…

    this isn’t to take so lightly some things take a great deal of discussion to agree upon… although as long as you’ve got some shared values to fall back on you can always make progress little by little…

    so please try and be supportive & talk about what you like first & foremost: everyone on this board met the criteria necessary to gain their place at Uni., pretty cool right?

  1118. Hey everyone.

    I’ve also been through the – worryingly common – thing of staying in bed, missing lectures, feeling your enthusiasm fade, thinking the course is a waste of time. I actually changed my course and uni after a term, which turned out to be a good move, although things still aren’t particularly great.

    I think one of the main problems is that unless you’re at some highly-ranked, prestigous institution you’re probably not feeling the academic buzz and romance that all Unis are supposedly shrouded in. Maybe the answer is just to lower your expectations and find a couple of people to sulk with. In fact that could be true for life in general.

  1119. uni is bull shit when you graduate you still take ages to find a job, they wont give you a job unless you get experience to gain experience you need to work voluntarily what the hell man whats the whole point you might aswell start from the bottom and work your way up you will get there quicker and learn more too!

  1120. My University actually wants me to leave. I registered several complaints, such as it’s too noisy at night (they gave us a telephone number for noise complaints. I have discovered they have terminated this service.), I’m not getting the support required (they are withholding my benefits for no apparent reason), and I even had a chaplain discriminate against me because I am autistic!! Considering exams are coming up God-knows-when (seriously, they’re apparently next month but the timetables haven’t been released; they are so bloody disorganised), this really isn’t uh, very advantageous for me.

    After complaining, I said if these issues aren’t resolved, I would like to leave, so please can they tell me how I can formally leave. They told me how to do so with a little ‘goodbye, hope never to see you again’-type of email. They couldn’t care less, the bastards. I wasn’t really considering leaving, but now their complete indifference and lack of will to assist (it is their job to do so) have made me start preparing for leaving this shithole.

    So, a little warning for anyone in the UK who has a disability: stay AWAY from Surrey University!!!!!

  1121. Well im planning to go to university this year (if i get the grades) but after reading all the comments above it makes me think that uni is a shit hole you live in for 4 years, learn stuff you’ll never use in life and come out with huge debt.
    The thing is ive been forced to go uni by my parents to do a course which i don’t want to do (physics). Its one of those things where you like it but not actually do it for a living eg. you like playing video games but not nescesserily want to do that for a living playing video games!
    They say i just need to get into uni and itll be alright. Well how can it be alright when that is one of my weakest subjects? I dont give a shit about anything in physics except for futuristic stuff like space ships, laser guns, robots and high tech uninvented shit. I dont give two fucks about classical mechanics or about any practical aspect of physics!
    I initially wanted to study economics but i got a B and then was forced to drop it by my parents at AS level.
    I seriously don’t know what to do if i do get into uni as I certainly wont come out with anything more than a 3rd class degree with my mental attitude since physics is one of those subjects where rigorous time and effort is to be given.
    I could just get in the uni and change courses but im like whats the point… you cant beat this fucking system..it beats you if you don’t have a clue what to do.

  1122. What angers me the most is that people spend so much time doing a degree which will not/never help them in their future careers.
    Loads of engineering students end up in finance like what the fuck. Why fuck did you twats pick engineering and waste those places in the first place??

  1123. @ SOS

    Do you parents know that you don’t want to do physics?

    If so then I would try and explore other options, such as moving out and getting a job for a few years to save up money to go to university if that’s what you want.

    There’s no point in going to study something you don’t want to study, it’s just going to be a waste of time.

    It’s your life, you’re the one who’s going to have to live with your career so it should be your choice. I feel bad for you, it must be hard having parents who are so intent on planning your life for you, but whilst they want what is best for you, they don’t necessarily know what that is.

    As for university, it’s just pot luck whether or not you like it. You will know from high school that there are a lot of douches out there and it’s just a matter of luck whether you end up surrounded by them at university or whether you meet some decent people.

    Let us know how you get on

  1124. @Mark

    The majority of people on this website feel frustrated and isolated by their university experience and are here because they want to vocalize their frustrations. It can be very comforting just knowing that you are not alone in your unhappy situation and that it’s not because you are weird or somehow ‘not good enough’, whether it be in academics or socially.

    I don’t quite know why you are here.

    From what I’ve seen of your comments, you have grouped everyone here into a single category and diagnosed the root of their problems as being lazy and quitting too easily. How can you know this based on what people here are posting? Perseverance does not always result in happiness, which is why people are posting here, they are unhappy.

    I find your tone condemning and I don’t think your comments could even be viewed as constructive criticism. I think you are just being mean. I don’t know why.

    Please try and be more sensitive if you post here in future. You catch more flies with honey. Everyone has flaws and I don’t think it is fair to assume so much about other people when you yourself can’t be perfect.

  1125. I think Mark has a right to air his views, I feel like some of his comments are a little callous and tactless, but in some ways hes’s right- a lot of the time we are truly responsible for the way things turn out for us- theres a lot we can’t control (such as ending up in a University full of stuck up, elitist gap-yah type assholes- as I have), but there is a lot we can control if we want to i.e making the effort to try and meet decent, dwn to earth people and just have cofee or something- I’ve made a few really good friends just from trying a little harder and making an effort after relaising I had to do something)

    …I think sometimes it takes hindsight to realise that, but I agree that ultimately, for all the negative things that are said (including by myself) about this place, the truth is ultimately, that this is life =/ and you won’t, as this experience has shown me- always get what you though you were going to….

    I hate admitting that but thats the way it is- so every tutorial session where I’m basically ridiculued by my classmates because of my shyness and ‘stupidity’, every time I’ve been rejected here socially- these are all moments that I have to carry with me and learn from, because in the real world this is what happens a lot if you don’t fit in- you get made fun of, socially rejected and put down and you have to struggle to be treated the way you feel like you deserve…but ultimately, thats just the way it is, and its not going to change aytime soon….

    However, I don’t think that people who come on here should be chastised at for complaining, Mark- for ages, I didn’t tell ANYONE how I felt about my University because I blamed myself so much for hating it- and coming on line and not even writing or venting myself, but just READING what others had to say and having so much resonance with my own experience made me feel so much better- it doesn’t change anything, but it at least assures me that I’m not the only person struggling, angry and frustrated about the fact that my friends have had such great experiences

    …its just comforting to know that you’re not alone, I think the truth is a lot of people here will talk about leaving and doing drastic things- but they probably never will- I think just the comfort and release from sharing thoughts and feelings about the experience, and validation, I suppose, is what everyone’s really seeking. Even when people say ‘fuck Uni’ and blame the institution etc. for their problems, I think theres an underlying awareness that the relaity of the situation can’t be escaped by blaming others and that we’re all ultimately at least somewhat responsible for where and how we end up in life- I don’t think that everyone here is attempting to completely evade all resposnbility for how their University experience pans out, I think a lot of people (as I have done myself) just feel feel kind of helpless at times, as if ‘I’ve tried my best, and nothing’s working’…

  1126. what a good place to vent!!! Unis shit! unless you fit into a category that people like to use in institutions like university, your going to find it hard to gel with anyone. the whole academic system is a joke too. how can memorising facts that are only a google away really make you more intelligent?? Real intelligence is being able to discern whats the real motivation behind why things happen (as ridiculous as that often is) and being able to use that knowledge to make a positive impact on the world. until the education system begins to encourage this, our societies will continue to become stupider and as a result democracy will continue to favour those who can yell loudest.
    don’t drop uni because you feel your not learning anything. try to stick at it and follow other avenues of education, like reading good books. this will enable you to establish yourself in the system in a position of respect and therefore influence of others and still maintain your brain.

  1127. I am literally days away from being finished my bachelor’s degree – and I’m STILL considering just not finishing at all.
    This black hole of my life has taken everything from me. It steals all the money I have, which I can’t earn back because it hoards all the time I possess. It gets in the way of the things I ACTUALLY want to be doing, and constantly, unceasingly, ALWAYS ruins my plans somehow.
    As you can tell from my writing, I’m pretty intelligent. I speak three languages, I know how to speak and write properly, I have an imagination beyond what a regular person could even comprehend. And yet I’ve wasted five years at this social construct that has given me nothing but headaches and poverty.

    You know what I’ve really learned at school? That I don’t want to spend my life indoors, researching obscure, useless minutiae that will not help me change the world. Too bad they don’t give out degrees for learning THAT.

  1128. Hi! I hate uni too! I’m at Demontfort and I thought it would be the perfect course for me. Turns out the other people in my class are total morons and in group presentations do really really embarrassing things.
    Im a mature student and I feel so uncomfortable about it all! To top it off I dont enjoy being around them, the seem so dull and dead and theyre always frowning! noone even bothers to smile and theyre all acting as though they are inhumanly intelligent.
    I hate uni, im just finishing my first year and i wish honestly i do that it was my third and final year. Im married with a kid and am regretting having gotten into uni at all. everyone is telling me to finish it but seriously I hate the city im in, theres no on here I know and its boring, no restaraunts that are worthwhile and the people are so dull.
    I just want to go back, back to my friends, back to my old life and go out and have fun again. uni isnt very draining but the people are, every time i see them i feel sick. everyone acts so snotty like theyre too good for anyone else – maybe its just my course – i always thought it was what i wanted but now im having second thoughts
    i may as well complete the course though, someone once told me you shouldnt leave things unfinished else you’ll end up leading your entire life that way. incomplete.
    /sighs/ i wish you guys all the best, i should stop moping bcos ~I know some of you have it worse than me, be strong whatever decision you make think of yourr self and what will benefit you

    good luck!

  1129. GordonGordonGordon

    Me, I’m an old bastard (39) who left university some years ago and I utterly hated it! You might well say I shouldn’t be letting that run my life now, and I’d have to agree with you 100%, and believe it or not I don’t. But sometimes I reflect on my past!
    The problem in my case was that my father was an academic and university was something that had been decided for me before I was conceived, never mind born. Because of that, my reasons for hating university were very personal and it does make me wonder how much an account of my bad times at university would really help other people. The one thing I would say is that it’s very important (a) whether or not university is something you want for yourself and (b) whether or not it’s something you can see the point of. In my case, I neither wanted it nor believed in it.
    I was studying history, for reasons that are not clear to me even now. In my first year one of our lecturers stood up and told us that the study of history was basically just self-indulgence. “Oh great”, I thought, “what am I doing here then?” What’s more, the whole process of being at university did seem to me to be just a middle-class rite of passage, a meaningless ritual.
    I was desperate to drop out at the end of my first year but I let myself get talked out of thet, mostly because I just decided to do my duty to others and complete the formal education I hated. By that point, the university couldn’t have done anything to make me happy to be there – it could have been a practical course in sexual intercouse with page 3 girls and I still would have wanted to drop out.
    If any of you – I mean any of you – ever think you’re a bad student, then don’t worry, I was worse than you. I remember an essay was supposed to be about 2,000 words long, well I counted those words religiously, making a mark every 5 or 10 words with a pencil (this was in the days of hand-written essays, kids). Once I forgot to rub out some of those little marks, the tutor saw exactly what I was doing and was not best pleased! My dissertation was the worst part of it all. Basically I didn’t write it – there was no way I would write anything without somebody hovering over my shoulder anyway. They gave some poor cow the job of trying to make me write that dissertation – left alone in her office one day, I idly flipped over a piece of paper to find a handwritten note from another tutor apologising to her for giving her the task of tutoring me (“a bed of nails”, as he wrote). Sorry to say folks, but that didn’t change my attitude in the slightest at the time. If I told you everything about what I was like at university, some of you would undoudtedly be very angry with me for my lack of “gratitude” – but what’s done is done now.
    Eventually, when it came to my finals, I forced myself to turn up in the right place at the right time – I didn’t like to set foot in the building if I could help it – and get something, anything, down on the paper. I got a third in the end – and I was lucky to get that.
    All of which goes to make a story that isn’t very improving. If there is a positive lesson to be gained from my tale though, it is that self-motivation – or the lack of it – can make a huge difference to your life, whatever you do. That’s a fact of life that applies to the real world every bit as much as it applies to university. Good luck!

  1130. I finished an essay today it really came down to the line… If they check references :S actually I covered this by submitting online copy ¬¬ I know they won’t start marking a 20-page paper until they have a paper copy…

    I’m still a little ‘high’ now waiting to come down.. if someone starts that facebook group would be pretty cool… I’m graduating pretty soon, there’s a mountain of paperwork… would be cool to hear others’ stories…

  1131. fuck the system

    @ Jonifoor – I totally understand what you are feeling! i’m in owens park too and my god i’m in my own disaster movie!

    I wrote on here a while ago and thought i would fail my exams and drop out…well i only failed one of my exams at christmas and i can re-sit it in the summer….

    I wonder if the reason we all find uni so crap is that we’re having to finally accept what our lives are going to be like until we retire?? after uni, the struggling doesn’t stop, we are going to have to work our asses off getting work experience then into a permanent job.

    I personally just want to delay this reality by dreaming of jetting off somewhere and travelling the ends of the world forever but maybe I just need to accept my fate and learn to live with this misery?

  1132. @fuck_the_system yep true I really look forwards to forgetting Uni ;) actually all I want from it now is a Bsc Prefix

    @everyone this is my advice actually, IF you’ve fallen out of love with your degree & you’ve tried to change course several times though your Uni won’t compromise…

    ADAPT

    …just accept your not going to get a 1st – you won’t need one as you won’t be working in this field…

    …when you get work just prioritise it as the number one thing, no exceptions – just get it done to the level you’ll need for your new future: consider even a non-honours degree that only needs 40%… it is still ‘a degree’…

    …you can even finish very easily and quicker than honours & maybe doesn’t even compare so badly against a 2:2 or third – that you’ll only get otherwise if you lack INTEREST (or prefer talking about cockroaches than your study @fuck_the_system /o/)- & you won’t lose sleep or life over…

    …especially if your thinking of working abroad as they generally won’t have a clue of the difference, like in the US honours do exist though are very rare… I expect elsewhere it’s unlikely to be questioned… just keep repeating standard degree standard degree like US yadda yadda…

    …& in the time you’ve saved put to good use you could have gained some experience in a field thats’s personal to you & passionate over…

    peace out to my lovers, haters & masturbators…. (@shimmycocopuffs)

  1133. im nearing the end of my second year. i cant wait till the summer. who knew university could be such a bitch? oh and its just my luck that i happen to have at least two sucky professors every semester. i cant stand one more minute of lectures, assignments and exams. way too much stress! and to top it all off, i seem to be lacking in the social department. im majoring in business administration. what the hell is that! i dont even know if i like it. i didnt “dream” of becoming a business person while i was growing up… God i would just love to leave the stupid university and stupid people in it behind, and just travel the world. pursue adventures and all that crap :P wow i just noticed that i wrote a bunch of run-on sentences..great. so much for english

  1134. Evie has echoed many of my thoughts.

    Time for me to vent:

    I don’t hate university, but I certainly don’t like it, and I won’t miss it once my course ends in a couple of years. I have no problem with the students here, and I think my choice of course was correct as so far it has proved to be very interesting. The real problem is the administration and level of competence demonstrated by the lecturers and their “teaching assistants”.

    Most of the lecturers here are nice enough, but too many of them are just so lazy. They clearly dislike dealing with undergraduates or marking undergraduate essays, presumably because we get in the way of their research. This would be understandable if it was a research university but it isn’t and these people are being paid good money to provide a decent level of tuition, personal contact and feedback on essays. Coming to the end of my first year now I’ve seen that the feedback given for essays (if at all) is very poor, the courses aren’t planned out well and the lecturers have failed to provide the promised tutorials, publish office hours or answer 80% of e-mail enquiries.

    In one memorable month, Monday became known as “Groundhog Day” when one of our teachers gave an identical lecture on a section of Pascal’s Pensees three weeks in a row. We did point this out to him in the second and third lecture but he just ignored us and continued to re-read his notes. The same teacher also refuses to give us a course outline or plan and instead just seems to lecture on the basis of “What I feel like talking about this week”. And he likes to talk about one or two things a lot more than others.

    The same teacher has set us 4 large essays over the year and has only marked one of them. The feedback he did given was just a percentage mark with no comments or indication of what we did right or wrong. There was no back-up tutorial either which is was a promised part of the course. He claims he’s “too busy” to mark the rest of the essays. So why set the damn things? They were on non-examined topics, and the whole point of writing them was to be ASSESSED on our understanding of them. 60% of our final grade is going to consist of these non-existent assessments. He hasn’t apologised or given any explanation. Of course we have complained, but he is the principal of the college and no one wants to upset him.

    Why have so many of our lectures just involved someone reading off a powerpoint? They even put the powerpoint online beforehand so why turn up to the lecture at all? No reading lists or detailed course outlines either. And again the assessments have been consistently poor. Many of the teachers dump our essays on “teaching assistants” who are even more feckless. They comments they give often contain spelling errors, they don’t read the task-sheets and make fatuous comments. I have had to appeal the marks of 4 essays and each one has been drastically increased – the first one by 20%!! In fact, one batch of assessments was so bad that the guy had to re-mark all of them. Again, with no apology or explanation. Never mind if I hadn’t called for a second reading most of the class would have been lumped with unjustly low marks. But who cares about a measly bunch of undergraduates?

    I had another dramatic encounter with a senior lecturer recently. He didn’t recognise a term I used in an essay. So what did he do? Did he look it up? No. He said it was “wrong” and penalised me for it. Turns out, on reviewing this with one of his colleagues, that I was completely right. On hearing this, the senior lecturer refused to acknowledge it (la-la-la I’m not listening!) and refuses to rescind the penalty he gave me for it. That I should have the nerve to force him to use a dictionary…

    I keep wondering what am I paying these people for? I’ve paid £3225 (that’s $4962) to watch people read off powerpoints; renege on promised tutorials and personal support (we’ve been given less than 50% of the tutorials guaranteed us at the beginning of the course); fail to mark our work or dump it on moronic jumped-up postgrads such every one of their evaluations has had to be appealed and changed; and generally do everything they can to avoid dealing with the students keeping them in employment. I shouldn’t have to keep complaining and appealing (and I’m not the only one either) and fighting the total intransigence of the university’s administration. But they keep cheating us and refuse to held accountable.

    I’ve already paid for the first year, and taking a year out to await the next opportunity to apply elsewhere is simply not an option. I’d only be taking the same course anyway. So I have to lump it. The academic side of it is easy enough, and the few grades I have got have been excellent. It’s just the burden of having to fight this war of attrition against the university”teaching” staff which is wearing me down.

    :(

  1135. I am studying my third year in photography. I went to a talk by a very famous photographer, off my own back in London. He said university for creative subjects is such a waste of time… he is right. I suspended my studies in 2008 and got a job as retoucher in London. Then I got made redundant… so I went back to University… because I thought I might as well finish it… but it’s bullshit honestly. The teachers have no clue really about the industry they teach, because they have never been submersed in it. … I got marked down last year for using digital format instead of medium format like my teacher prefers…. HELLO! SO so much of commercial photography these days is digital. It’s like… why did I spend another £3000 on this, for what… a piece of paper… when I’ll probably just go straight back in to what I was doing before…. without the degree! Makes me laugh! Those who can…DO those who can’t TEACH!

  1136. Michigan J Frog

    Hi.

    I hate it too.

    This place is truely awful.
    I think i just wrote around 100 words. then the stupid uni password thing clicked up and i lost it all.

    Basicly im 22 first year. went travelling after collage.
    came back worked in a bank.

    was on the rock and roll ( the dole )
    loved it!!!!!!!

    then my dad made me come ere in a way.

    After christmas i wrote my car off./ could have died.
    Never would of happened if i wasnt so bored and lonely in this shit hole. must of gone a bit mad and crashed the fucker.

    i wish i never came here.

    I wish i could turn back the clock.

    i’d happyly go back to my nice flat with a sofa and tv and peace and do some drawings now and again and a painting once a year. maybe. maybe not who cares. I should of been more bold. But i thought it would be bold to come here. how wrong i was.

    fucking hate every last bastarsd second of it.
    UNI IS FUCKING HELL

    have mates good at the course.
    ITS STILL SHIT

    its hell.

    Crashing your car doesnt help. (flipp and roll and nearly die on a cold night in jan and have to go a n e )

    Stay strong. Stay in watch a film. BE BY YOURSELF IF YOU WANT THATS COOL, OR GO OUT FOR A BIT. DONT PTRESSURE YOURSELF. chill out.

    You’ll be fine. I promise. You are very fucking important. I beleive in you.

    YOU ARE BETTER THAN UNI AND ALWAYS WILL BE.

    Do what you want. never give up. Im not. and thats why im dropping the fuck out.
    Peace.

  1137. Michigan J Frog

    You know that loony toons frog

    Michigan J Frog

    Who can sing so well, but annoyingly doesnt when any one is watching.

    “hello my honey hello my baby hello my rag time gal”

    BE THAT FROG.
    Thats my new life. I am trying to be like michigan J Frog.

    If you havent seen it. and are looking for a fantasic 6 mins. look for michigan J Frog on you tube. One froggy evening

    LIFE CHANGING

    haha

    peas. and good luck.

    all the best. xx

  1138. I love that FROG !

    Sorry you crashed. Hope your ok.

    I also do not like uni i have read loads of comments.

    Makes me feel better.

    Peas ! haha

  1139. I hate uni.

    I am in control of my life.

    fuck this.

    love this blog.

    look every day

  1140. Time machine please.

    know what i mean …………..

  1141. YOUNEY ? no. MEANY !!!

    Its not about uni its about me-ni

    Fuck uni. I knew i shouldnt of done this.

    Its just a pity i wasted so much time being here. Jesus christ. Cant believe it. If i didnt want to go when i was 18. why would i when im 23. Its just not what i thought. hate it.

    This will haunt me when im older.

    Can it get worse.?

    Halls.

    Fuck me.

  1142. Michigan J Frog.

    He wouldnt put up with this SHIT !
    Simon, Do you have a time machine i could borrow?

  1143. Waste. Of. Time.

    I have moved into a flat with 6 people i dont know aka halls.

    WHAT THE HELL

    What must i have been thinking?

    I cant imagine me sitting at home, applying for this.

    What a twat.

    I know I cant go back and slap myself so hard i leave a mark. But i really, really wish i could.

    I’m so upset. Ive never been like this before.

    FUCK.

    OMG FUCK. what have i done

  1144. I HATEEEEE UNI

    I HAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEE UUUUNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

  1145. Uni.

    I hate you.

    Why did I come.
    I just jumped in.

    wish i could go back and tell myself not to go.

    NEARLY SUMMER

    fucking uni.
    I neeed to drop out.

  1146. I dont see the point in going on to the second year.

    Fuck it.

    Dropping out at the end of the year.

    I typed I hate uni too haha

  1147. Life is a game of poker my friends.

    Question is.

    Are you going to fold.

    OR RAISE ?

    I’m thinking of folding.

    I raised all in and lost. No shame in that.

    I’m going to write a book instead.

    I was doing art.

  1148. mark, its people like you who run the snobbist elitist places which they call universities.
    Please dont bother to reply back with your essays…you might do something better with your time like get a life.

  1149. Mark you filthy Dog

    BARK BARK BARK

  1150. I just want to leave.

    I have had quite enough.
    I am in cornwall. my home is 350 miles away. I dont feel welcome at home. I certainly cant be bothered with this anymore.

    I’m a bit stuck

  1151. Some living BIG

    But most living small.

    Some going east

    and the sun going west.

    Some set aside, to try their best.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhXt8DwhaFA&feature=related

    All my good life ive been a loney man.
    teaching my people who dont understand.
    And even tho ive tryed my best
    i still cant find no happyness.

    off to kill myself now folks. Or watch the barcelona inter game.
    same thing. WHEN YOU CANT WATCH IT WITH YOUR MATES AND HAVE A SMOKE

    Fuck.

    This.

    UNI ! arrrrrrrr

  1152. Yo.

    Basicly. It is good.

    Its fucking magic.

    Just dont get in TROUBLE.

    Thats whats making me hate it now.

  1153. I ended up in hospital after a night out.

    Its ruining me.
    Close to quiting

    Good luck and peace everyone

  1154. I’m not 18

    I havent just moved away from the old man and mum for the first time, i have lived on my own for 4/5 years, thats the problem.

    fuck uni.

    i feel like a fucking idiot

    thanks alot

  1155. I think different people are mark.

    Alll you have to do is put mark as your name,
    and wind people up.

    Good one Mark (s)

  1156. I am the devil and I AM at your uni.

    Maw hahahaha

    And you nose it.

    Making your life hell to turn your heart black.

    Quit while u can.

    3rd years. You are defeating me

  1157. fuck the system

    Mark, I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU

  1158. I feel so lost at university. I used to have a great group of friends in high school and now they’re all at different universities. I’m second year and I know no one here. I sit with a class friend in lectures but don’t see them outside of classes. I feel anxious all the time…man, this really sucks.

  1159. To the person calling themselves “jesus”:

    I think you have the measure of Mark. Looking at some of his contributions, I imagine he could do with some psychotherapy. Clearly some unresolved “issues” there!

  1160. karen,

    I realize you’re upset that I have an opinion that is contrary to yours. But please, is it necessary to judge me and tell me to get a life as an adverse reaction to your difficult situation? Can’t we converse in a more civil way? Civility, free-knowledge, and maturity, aren’t these values that the academic environment promotes? ; )

  1161. The Devil,

    You scare me.

    If you notice other comments you’ll find that they rarely have the same intellectual prowess and my comments are coherent and unified. Most others don’t bother with any of that. They’re just mad that I have an opposing view and want to attack me in every way they can.

    I have no idea what you’re on about in the second comment.

  1162. Anon:Comments163/172

    @RollOn2011 – Hey, I’ve been having trouble with my email account so let’s use this board while I get it sorted or open a new account.

    How are you? I really hope that you are doing well and as you know I wish you the very best. I’m really good. I got lots of extra shifts just after I decided to leave Uni so I worked full time (plus weekends!) for a while but I decided to work part-time this week inorder to give me a chance to unwind and make some plans. I am so glad I did! Anyway work is great I’ll def work full time this month and then have a short break somewhere hot and sunny then back to work. Feel’s great.

    It wasn’t easy but I made the best choice for me and I’ve actually started sleeping properly since I decided to leave. I spoke to a friend who really understands my situation and they helped me to just stop being so hard on myself about everything all the time. I have a degree already and I have done loads.

    My ex ‘re-surfaced’ recently but I have finally severed ties with him and I’m going out Salsa dancing and to some gigs with friends this weekend. I am finally getting my social life back.

    I am also planning to take a Spa day. :D There are some very cheap deals around and I want to relax and enjoy being treated and massaged – I have never done anything like that before so I can’t wait.

    Life hasn’t been a ball or one never ending party since I left Uni, lol, it’s just been better. It took me over a year to decide to leave and it was the right choice for me. And planning to work and travel abroad too, maybe Australia for a year. I’m working it out in my own way at my own pace in my own time.

    In terms of my art, I am making progress and I have some great opportunities, contacts and clients who are interested in my work (I couldn’t pursue it properly while I was in Uni, now I can) so I just have to take those opportunities and make some cash for more materials.

    Please stay in touch. I’m sorting out the email account and I’ll keep you posted. I really hope that you are well. I admire you, respect you greatly and I truly appreciate all that you have had to say to me. Thank you so much and have a wonderful day.

    Best of luck to everyone who finds their way to this board.

  1163. Anon:Comments163/172

    @ Jesus – Lol! So articulate, why were you not on my course?

  1164. Let me, go back, in time.

    July 2009 will do.
    But im happy with 1993 with all the knowledge i have now.

    That would be magic.

    TARA

  1165. But I love you Mrs Hanlon.

    But GO.

    Live your life.

    start again.
    be free (in the past)

    with all your knowledge of whats going to happen.

    What a great idea.

  1166. Push it to the limit
    Walk along the razor’s edge
    but don’t look down, just keep your head
    and you’ll be finished

    Open up the limit
    past the point of no return
    You’ve reached the top but still you gotta learn
    how to keep it

    Hit the wheel and double the stakes
    throttle wide open like a bat out of hell
    and you crash the gates
    (crash the gates)

    Going for the back of beyond
    Nothing gonna stop you
    there’s nothing that strong
    So close now you’re nearly at the brink
    so, push it

    (Ooo yeah)

    Welcome to the limit
    (The limit)
    Take it maybe one step more
    The power game’s still playing so
    you better win it

    Push it to the limit
    (The limit)
    With no one left to stand in your way
    you might get careless, but you’ll never be safe
    while you still feel it

    Welcome to the limit
    (The limit)
    Standing on the razor’s edge
    don’t look down just keep your head
    and you’ll be finished

    Welcome to the limit
    (The limit)
    (The limit)
    (The limit)
    (The limit)

    Push it to the limit
    (The limit)
    (The limit)
    (The limit)
    (The limit)

    (The limit)
    (The limit)
    (The limit)
    (The limit)

    Push it to the limit

  1167. Sweet

  1168. Basicly.

    I want my money back.

  1169. So I have been working on a 4 hour task for fucking 17 hours and counting now. I haven’t slept and I am the only one left in the building. I need a fucking beer.

  1170. I fucking HATE UNI!

    Beer sounds good though.

  1171. For all the other people out there. The ones who are hating uni at the moment:

    I hope everyone can stay strong and hang in there. I know how it feels, I have been there myself. Now that I’m in third year and I feel a bit better because I have gotten used to it. There are still days when I feel like I dislike the place again, I won’t deny it. But all I want you guys to know is that you aren’t alone in how you feel – even if you do feel alone a lot of the time. There are many posters here who are in the same boat as you. If we all support each other, we can get through it. If you need a place to rant, know that we will be here for you, to listen. Just focus on what you want to do. If that’s getting a degree…then keep thinking of that goal to keep you motivated. If you realise that uni is not for you and you want to do other things…then go ahead and do them, even if it means not going to uni anymore.

    One lesson I want to share with you guys (especially first years) is that it never hurts to be friendly to others. Start being friendly early in your uni life. Talk to people. Even if it makes you feel awkward at first. It does help your uni experience, trust me. I know that part of what made my first year feel crappy was that (being a naturally shy, introverted person), I found it difficult to make close friends. I felt alienated. That, plus the fact that I wasn’t liking all of my subjects, made university a disappointment.

    So all you first years…smile, meet others, greet people.You’ll start to find that uni and the people in it aren’t all so “bad” afterall :) I’m willing to bet lot of people are probably feeling the same way as you and are finding it hard to get used to uni life. And if you don’t like your subjects? Sit down, have a think about what you DO like. And do those subjects instead. (And even if you still end up with subjects you don’t like that much, knowing more people around you will help you because you can all discuss (or complain about) the subject together ;D ). For non-first years, it’s never too late to make a turn-around.

    Evie

  1172. uni is so shit, ive made way too many friends, everyone is over nice and they FORCE me to go out and have fun times with alcohol and the workload is way too light and easy, my mum lives in my room with me to cuddle me at night when i feel sad and cooks me food every day and beats the bad guys. how dare she?? WHY IS IT ALL SO EVIL ???????

  1173. The money shit is gay.

  1174. The fonz.

    What would the fonz do?

    QUIT

    ayyyyyyy

  1175. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=styYbRWQYP8

  1176. I have not been on here in forever. I’m glad the site is back working again. Anyway, I left. I am writing this from home. I’m disappointed with myself of course, but I couldn’t handle it anymore. I’ve been to the doctor, because I’ve been putting off getting help far too long, and now I’m just looking for work. It’s all so frustrating. I passed my exams, and I almost had to laugh at that. I dont want this to sound annoying, but I really didnt work hard for them as by that point in time I had basically given up. And those exam marks just proved to me that I am capable, but I’m letting all these problems hold me back.

    What’s past is past though. All that matters in the present is me earning some money, and getting myself better. I dont really know what to do about learning, though. I was strongly considering the Psychology OU course, but I realise I dont love it. And there are other things that I dream of doing. But perhaps that’s me being unrealistic and I should just stick with Psychology. I know I can do it, so it’s the ‘safe’ option.

    I’m not sure if I’ll be posting here again, seeing as I’ve left now. But I’d like to thank everyone who ever replied to me or just posted here, it really did help me whilst I was there. All the best to everyone :)

  1177. darkness all around me.

    What have i become.

    Hell is this

    and i am there

    i should have thought more clearfully

    i should have been aware

  1178. Murder spree anyone?????????

  1179. FUCK THIS SHIT

    What about the new world order !

    WAKE UP PEOPLE.

    Times almost run out.

  1180. My yahoo search engine showed me this site, and I see how I can relate to many of the people who have posted here. I am amazed how comments dating back to 2004 relate so much with my current university experience. I am currently finishing my first year and I must say, there hasn’t been a day in which I hated being in this hellish place! I entered one of my country’s best university and find myself with all these rich snoobs who think they have it hard in life for very unrealistic reasons. So it has been very hard to make friends with down to earth people. I read many of the comments there and it’s nice to know you aren’t the only one going through this and that there is hope! Hehe, thanks to all those who shared their experiences!!

  1181. L

    Where are you?

    Are you going to leave???

    I am a first year with lots of poor rich kids

    Im leaving.

  1182. thats right i 8 it

    fucking 8 it.

    WHY IS IT SO SHIT

  1183. Hi Richar,
    I’m currently study in Puerto Rico and I am planning on leaving to another college closer to home. Hopefully go into computer science and move to US to finish in design for video games. But I am SO LEAVING! lol

  1184. @Anon:Comments163/172 sorry i took so long to reply.

    Thanks for your kind words, they mean a lot.
    I’m currently stressed out due to lab reports and the fact that I have 5 exams and no time to revise! I don’t understand any of the material that I’m going to be tested on, I never do until I actually start revising. But due to lab reports I have little time to start revising blah blah blah! Arghhh panic!!!

    Glad to hear your getting on well. How was salsa dancing? Travelling Australia would be amazing, what a great experience. It’s great to hear your getting back into your art. Once you get going you could set up a website?!

    If I could do a 2 year degree and graduate this summer I would be the happiest girl alive!

  1185. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Rollon2011.

    Glad to hear from you. I will tell you what you told me.

    Take a deep breath, make some tea, sit down and calm down. You have things to do but you can only manage them calmly, one at a time. You’ve done so well already, you’re doing so well and if you just calm down you can find a way forward. Even though you have tests and lab reports I think that you probably know most of it already.

    The purpose of revision is revising, not learning from scratch so have some faith in your abilities. Your Uni is paying you to be their over the summer because they know that you have the goods. A little faith goes a long way.

    You stated that:
    “I don’t understand any of the material that I’m going to be tested on, I never do until I actually start revising.”

    Maybe that’s because when you sit down to revise you calm down and focus, stress makes it harder to do anything. I know that its not easy.

    Had to postpone Salsa as my friend had to work but we’ll def do it soon – just got an invitation from another friend today. lol. I went out recently for the first time since my break up with my ex and I had the best time! And I recieved so many compliments and just had a wonderful time, it was great and I look forward to going out so much more and building up my social life again.

    Having said that I know that you can’t go out much at the moment, just chill out when you can and Summer is on the way! You’ll get to spend time with your family and go out. Summer is so close by!

    Stay in touch.

    Very best of luck to you and to everyone else on the board.

  1186. i’m @ da end of me 2nd term
    i think school isn’t 4 evry1 but me parents don’t get dat
    i’m afraid of wasting me life cuz i really hate uni n don’t know if things’ll get any better
    idk wat i’d do if i dropped out anway
    idk wat i want from me life
    i don’t want 2 give in2 da system

  1187. But only for wierd reasons such as having the jitters.

    I am a jitterrbugg !

  1188. I’m applying to uni now (late, but whatever) and I certainly don’t want to go. I hope I don’t get in anywhere…even though I’ve pretty much already been accepted at one school. Ugh. This is all because my mother will bitch and moan if I don’t end up with a degree in my sweaty hand. I’d do anything not to go. Perhaps I’ll disappear one day with the little cash I have and just start work somewhere.

    I am 100% sure that uni isn’t for me. Why the hell would I want to a) write papers day and night about irrelevant things b) live on campus with potential crazies and c) wind up with massive debt?

    WASTE OF TIME.

    happy with minimum wage > depressed, penniless student.

    The end.

  1189. Paul the programmer

    I’m a 49 year old man who lives in a city with probably the worst employment levels in britain. Bored out of my skull and with little hope of getting any work in a place I’m tied to because of my kids, I decides to go to university and study for a degree in computer science with games development. Obviously being a mature student 99% of the population at university simply ignore me all together. In the three years I have been there I have only managed to make a few friends of any significance and i dont doubt that I will never see them again when my course is over.
    All I have gained from my course is knowledge of how to do things “the academic way”, which is not the way the way of the working world. I haven’t really learned anything of value except never to submit myself to another three years of this crap.
    If I pass or fail in spite of all my efforts I’m still in debt to the tune of about 20 grand which I have to pay back as soon as I’m working.
    Worse still, my ex partner has the Child Support agency on my case which will doubtless chew away any surplus cash from any income I make, which makes working itself pointless for me.
    University has been a pointless waste of time, I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.
    The fees charged for listening to lecturers who in most cases manage to make interesting subjects unbearably boring are outrageous.
    If this is the best education the British government can offer then there is no hope for the future of my country.

  1190. It makes me feel so much better that people out there feel the same as me. So il join in with a rant too.

    Im nearly at the end of my first year and I just cant stand it. I liked the first few weeks of uni, freshers was great i made some friends, lectures were fine then somehow it all slipped away. The friends i made suddenly didnt like me anymore, i hated my lectures and i hated my life. I have an exam tomorrow and i really dont know any of it, its boring and im totally uninterested in it so i cant get any of it in my head. I dont like this course, i didnt know what course to take and i was running out of time to decide so i just picked the one im on and i absolutely loathe it. I dont want a carrer related to it, not that i know what carrer i want. Just thinking about attending lectures depresses me. Everyone else seems so happy they go out to clubs(where they get the money il never know) manage fine with their assignments when im struggling to find bthe motovation to even open word. I just hate it i really do, i have no idea what i should do. Should i change my course? What to though i dont know. should i quit and get a job. Im pretty confused. My mum says i can do what i want with mylife and as long as it makes me happy she’ll support me but i know shes secretly proud of me for going to uni and would be a bit upset if i didnt finish it, my dad would defo be upset. Ahhh i just dont know what to do, is getting a job that bad? I have a part time job now and tbh its fine. The only thing i do know is that i really hate uni.

  1191. @Anon:Comments163/172,
    Thanks for your reply. I really do learn from scratch when I revise. I can’t for the life of me concentrate in lectures and take in what they say. The material is of no interest to me so I switch off- I attend them so I can sign myself in and so I can get a handout and make notes if necessary. I’ve started revising now though so I’m trying to be positive. I’ve just got to pass these exams! (But then I have another bloody year to go!)
    It’s great that you’re socialising more now and receiving those compliments, it must have given you a real boost. How’s work going?

  1192. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Roll0n2011

    Hi, best of luck with your revision.

    Work is going well, I’m finding out how much overtime I can get on a weekly basis so I’m looking for something else that’s a bit more predictable for the next few months. It’s going well though I can’t complain and I’m saving cash and improving my finances, which is a big issue for me. I feel so much better as I just made the right decision for me. Things aren’t perfect, they are just better. Which is what I wanted.

    I still think about my ex but I know that in time I’ll think about him less and less and really I’m glad that I ended things totally, we can’t be friends and he was never going to treat me well. Anyway I’m just starting to rediscover the things I enjoy doing, seeing friends again and developing some new interests so I feel good. And so much better about myself. How are you? Managing to see friends? Socialise a bit?

  1193. straightandnarrow

    I hope someone can respond to this. At the moment I can’t stand to be in university. Im in 2nd year, i walk around alone, I go to lectures alone. I’m not the sort of person someone would call and be like lets go out. I always have to do the texting and calling around. 1st year i was made the scapegoat as the problem of my friendship group and now 2nd year the same thing, I decided to take a break from them for while because it was evident they didnt like me but I came back and now it seems like im not needed. Im currently in the middle of exams, with no one to talk to apart from my family back home, im not eating properly and when exams are over ill feel ill be lost 4 months with nothing to to do. They’ll be end of year parties but i question who will i go with and how can I come back to this sadness in 3rd year, how will i cope!! well peace out

  1194. I feel so miserable… I need help.

  1195. @straightandnarrow pretty much everyone on this board feels alone in one way or another the key is just to focus on making it change… so you don’t notice it & before you know it…

    @Mike talk to your lecturers arrange for a time-out like 2 weeks away where you can completely refocus everything… they will understand, you’re not the first… or else just visit your gp they will write out a stress-related note very easily & quickly

  1196. straightandnarrow

    @semile* thank you but how can i make it change?

    @mike don’t worry follow semile’s advice, if not a gp, counsellor

  1197. hey guys, i thought i was the only one that felt like this, but im really hatin uni, nearly finished my first year, thank god.
    i should be lucky that i have friends, but they are so so different to me, they are proper ‘goody two shoes’, whereas i am a bit of a rebel. so we dont get along, but i know i have to , to stick it out for the next two years. and for some reason, i get rude looks from everyone in my class, im not rude, im quite a friendly approachable person.
    to add to that, i also hate my course ,its really borin, and i dont have any friends in my seminars, which is also why i dnt like goin to them, but then i get behind in my work. uni just makes me feel really depressed, it has really lowered my self confidence. i hate feeling like this.

  1198. Dear Fay,

    All I can say is fuck them lot. Soon you’ll be free and doing great.

    I am in a propper mess.

    I beleive in you.

    Keep doing what you do. Look em in the eye.

    and remember

    ‘fuck em’

    G’luck

  1199. fuck N**j*** University
    fuck those damned communist in the office
    fuck C**** forever!

  1200. straightandnarrow,

    Ok, I don’t usually do this, but I will offer you some “positive” advice, on suggestion of many from the site. Please note that this advice is only going on what you’ve typed, and it may not even apply to your particular case. Also please note that I am NOT a psychiatrist or counselor, and I suggest you by default should make use of your campus counseling center. If you haven’t already, then this is an obvious first step that you have to, logically, take. You don’t have to be depressed to get advice and it would be silly to be afraid to ask for advice from the counseling center if it could benefit you. You might feel a little silly at first in the waiting room (although you shouldn’t), but that’s life; stress and the feeling of being judged is the price you sometimes pay for answers that will ultimately help you deal with those very stressors that turned you away from potential solutions in the first place.

    Please Note: If you want a more valuable response you need to provide even more information about your university experience and yourself including your age, gender, program of study, university/college, etc.

    “At the moment I can’t stand to be in university.” – This is a natural feeling that many others experience as you can plainly see by visiting this site. When I say it’s natural, I mean that you should stop, and really consider your position. Why are you so upset? Because you have a lot of work that has built up and your grades are low? There are solutions to these problems. Even if you are doing HORRIBLE, there are solutions which I will hopefully shed some light on. Again, though, you need to tell me specifically what your problem is if you want a specific solution.

    “Im in 2nd year, i walk around alone, I go to lectures alone.” – This is normal. You might think that you should naturally fit in and have a ton of friends and be partying all the time; university isn’t like this for everyone. You need a REALITY CHECK – some people just don’t make friends that easy or are having bad luck at a point in their lives. That said, there are things you can do to make friends, but the solution isn’t always easy especially if you already have a ton of work. If you are feeling alone you can always reach out to family or friends from home via email, etc. If you want to make new friends, surf the net and try some techniques others have come up with, but in the end I highly suggest that you keep your expectations LOW. You have the best chance of making friends when you are calm and truly no longer give a F*** about having friends or not. It can be difficult to do, but you just need to relax and be happy enough to simply see people in class and maybe chat now and then. Who knows what could come of it. Again, I need more information on your particular case to continue this train of thought.

    “I always have to do the texting and calling around.” – Friends are work. Someone has to do the work. As long as you are not harassing friends you should be able to contact them every odd weekend and hang out. Eventually they should contact you. Again I need more information.

    “1st year i was made the scapegoat as the problem of my friendship group and now 2nd year the same thing, I decided to take a break from them for while because it was evident they didnt like me but I came back and now it seems like im not needed” – So your problem seems to be with a particular group of friends. No problem; dump them, move on to someone better. This is what life is about. You need to move on if you don’t work with friends (or friends are idiots). There is no sense in giving it any more thought than that. Again, give up your “expectation” that you even SHOULD have friends in university. Friends are a bonus in life. That’s sad, but true. Fortunately we live in a world that tends to offer us an unending supply of friends if we have the determination to seek them. Some friends stay for a short time, some for a long time, usually there will be SOME sort of friends in your life.

    “Im currently in the middle of exams, with no one to talk to apart from my family back home, im not eating properly and when exams are over ill feel ill be lost 4 months with nothing to to do.” – I have to say that this sounds a lot like whining, although I’ll keep the criticism low so as not to piss you and others off. Bottom line is that you have your family, so why isn’t that enough for now? You’re not eating well, again, that’s your own fault. What you really need to do is sit down with yourself, take a day off from studying and go somewhere and relax and put your life into perspective. Realize that you live and breathe in a peaceful world; you don’t have to fight in a war like humanity has had to in the past. You are living the good life, believe me. When you realize how bad things can get, the worst case “flunking out of university” becomes so trivial you wouldn’t believe. You’ll say “sure, I get it, but flunking out of university would be really bad for me and I don’t live at the start of the century so that doesn’t apply to me.” WRONG. There are NO guarantees in life. There is nothing that says we won’t wake up tomorrow to a nuclear war and the annihilation of the human race. Carpe Diem; live for the day. Decide what will bring you the most happiness on a daily basis, and DO IT. If this means university must be put on hold, then DO IT. It will be there for later. Also: you’re probably in your early 20s, if even, but please try cleaning up your prose now. Get into good habits of commenting without the use of shorthand like “4s” and capitalize your “Is” (im does not = I am, I’m is appropriate). The more cognizant you are of this and the more you do it everywhere you type, the better your overall academic “thought” will be, and the better you will be at writing essays, exams, etc. You might think it’s silly but think again; the more times you do something the more efficient you get at it.

    “They’ll be end of year parties but i question who will i go with and how can I come back to this sadness in 3rd year, how will i cope!! well peace out.” – *sigh* I understand you’re young and events that are coming up feel like the end of the world, but they’re not. Far from it. Worst case: you don’t go to the year-end parties. Step outside yourself for one moment and realize that no one gives less than a F*** whether you go or not in the grand scheme of things, so why should you? Of course some of your friends might like to see you there but does it really matter to the grand “plan” of the universe if you don’t make it to a year-end party? Make your own year-end party and invite a friend or two (or none), and just watch some favorite movies and eat what you want all night. Seriously, life is about that glamorous when it comes down to it. Very soon after graduate university this is what almost everyone will be doing on a daily basis in the evenings anyway, and socialization on the weekends will be minimal as you grow older. As far as the 3rd year goes – you’ll have a whole summer to improve yourself and your perspective, and the 3rd year usually is the beginning of the much more specific classes with smaller groups focused on your major subject. The chances of making friends is higher, and the students that are there tend to be the keeners or the more mature students who lack all the immaturity of the younger students. So, it will probably be somewhat easier to make friends, but don’t expect that you won’t still be alone. We’re alone in life when it comes down to it, that’s just a reality. Everything else is a bonus (and sometimes a really fun bonus).

    So to recap the major points of advice I have for you:

    - Keep your expectations low: We’re not guaranteed anything in life. The fact that you live in peace and are able to get an education is a BONUS. So why aren’t you content on a daily basis because of this?

    - There are no easy answers: My answers are limited because I don’t know your whole situation. On top of that, even if I didn’t my advice wouldn’t be some miracle cure. Instead you should be aware that university is proof that LIFE IS HARD. But with a little hard work, you can survive, and even come to love what you once hated.

    - Avoid whining and clean up your act (think positive): whining achieves nothing. I’ve said this over and over again. Thinking “I hate university, I’m always alone, I’m so behind, bla bla bla” is completely unproductive. You only live once. Put your whining energy into finding solutions for your problems, even if the solution is as simple as saying “I hate university, but I’ll study a little harder tonight and try to like it” or “I hate university, so I’ll give myself one more week with more time between studying, and if that doesn’t work I will just drop out and start doing more to enjoy life.” Thinking even a bit more positively will take an edge off. Along the same line of thought, clean up your prose to make yourself think more clearly. “Thinking positive” usually sounds stupid to those that are depressed and I understand how that is the case, but you have to realize that the only way you can begin to change your situation is to realize that you only live once and if you want something from this life you are the only one who can start getting it RIGHT NOW. And you CAN, even if it means 1 or 2 hours a day of doing whatever the F*** you want. *There was a psychology study done that found that when faced with two commercials; one which had violence and one which had no violence, viewers recalled more information from the commercial with no violence. What does this say about the human psyche? Generally, we’re designed to deal best with positive information; negative information is more difficult. So, if you find yourself cleaning up your grammar and striving to think positively in general about your life right now, your thoughts will be more on par with the tone of the authors of your textbooks and you will recall more information in lectures and maybe your positivity will even lead to you thinking “that guy/girl looked at me, maybe he/she would like to chat for a bit…” etc. Do you see what I mean? The way we think about things can vastly improve our lives, even when our positive thoughts are wrong (because sometimes they are right).

    - Put it in perspective: It will all be over eventually. You are an adult; you have the power to determine when it will be over. You ultimately have the power to make yourself happy. You have to realize that if you decide to quit now, it’s OK. If you decide to keep going and you end up failing, it’s OK. If you decide to go on and you pass, it’s OK. Whatever happens is fine; you can always return to university later in your life to finish it, or not, if you so choose. University is not nor will it ever be the end of the world.

    Hopefully some of these thoughts have been somewhat helpful.

  1201. straightandnarrow

    A tad harsh Mark, but thank you nevertheless. I would have not expected to use perfect grammar on a site that I had just stumbled upon for a few minutes so I just abbreviated most of my words. My grades are of a high standard and I expect to finish university on that note according to my lecturers. I will strive to be positive but I don’t regard what I put as whining, I was just going through a difficult time and I was looking for some friendly advice. I’ll be just fine now.

  1202. Anon:Comments163/172,

    Glad to hear everything is working out for you.

    My social life is on hold for 4 weeks until these exams are out of the way. Ideally I would have a week (or two) with no lectures before exams start but the department has decided against this!

    Keep in touch :)

    Beware: rant coming up…

    It’s amazing how differently I feel about being at uni when I don’t have labs/as much work to hand in during the week. When I sit down to revise I actually enjoy trying to learn all the information/even if I’m not that passionate about chemistry.

    In a normal week I have to hand in a pre-lab/post-lab and answers to tutorial questions. (None of these are easy to do). This is on top of a 22 hour week. Where am I supposed to find the time to write up lecture notes so I know what is going on?! (I have been out clubbing 4 times since September). My house mates complain because they have essays to hand in every 4 (maybe more?) weeks, and they only have 6/8 hours of lectures a week! It’s crazy. So all this means that during the 12 week semester I am a mess/want to go home/hate chemistry/blah blah blah

    Ok so I’ve vented. A solution would be to quit or just get on with it. I’m going for the latter. I’m stressed but there are four weeks left so I’m going to do my best. If I fail. I fail.

  1203. straightandnarrow,

    No problem. Thank you for showing me that positivity is more effective than negativity.

  1204. I wonder how much time,money and energy the world has wasted on education which is unrelevant to the real world?

    Studying at university is like learning how to fly by reading the instruction manual to Ace Combat 4.

  1205. I have to disagree with the post someone put on here saying you have to be in the minority if you dont have loads of mates at uni. Yes, there are societies etc and clubs to join, but some of us dont have bags and bags of cash to join every club and society- some of us are living pure at the bottom of our over drafts, wishing we could afford to join clubs and meet new people.
    I think there can be quite a big difference between students who have their parents pay for everything, so they dont have the stress of having to work part-time and study, and live in isolated social life because of never having any money. Its not their fault, they dont really understand our situation because they always have money so they assume that the amazing uni experience is the same for everyone and anyone who isnt enjoying is just being miserable but the truth for poorer students with no family help is a lot more depressing in actuality.
    I joined a few clubs at the start but had to stop going because I didnt have the money. I took 2 years out after my first year due to ilness and unfortunately i havent really met any sound genuine people on my course who i could rely on to call them ‘friends’. theyre not really mates if u just see them in uni classes randomly. My housemate is the only decent person i know, but i hardly ever see her because she has a busy life (since she managed to join all these clubs at the start and keep going).
    I am nearly maxxed out on my overdraft, I have 2 more exams and I have just been fired from my job. I dont know how i will pay the rent next month. Add to this i have no full time work lined up for when its all over and no time to go to agencies because of revision. the place i will be moving to in the summer is also asking for 3 months’ rent in advance. I have no money for a social life, and the friends that i did make at the start of the year i drifted away from because i no longer had the money to keep going to the clubs.
    At the start of the year I felt like I had friends but once again I feel like a stranger to this town living in isolation. I am purely at uni for the money- not that u get paid that much extra anyway, but nowadays its as basic an essential as GCSEs if youre to end up anywhere other than working in PC world. Hate it. Im planning to work 3 jobs in the summer to clear my over draft, but i also have to do research for my final year project in the summer lol.
    Uni is alrite if you have the money, if you dont it sucks ass big time.

  1206. sarah,

    “I have to disagree with the post someone put on here saying you have to be in the minority if you dont have loads of mates at uni.” – I agree, there are many that don’t have friends in university. There are ways, however, to make friends. You can make friends virtually ANYWHERE. It’s just harder for some than others, and takes more time.

    “I think there can be quite a big difference between students who have their parents pay for everything” – I agree with this too. It can be more difficult for working students. However, as a working student if you give it your all you can enjoy knowing that you’re doing a much better job than many rich “drifters.”

    “i have no full time work lined up for when its all over” – Most students don’t. It’s ok to not have it all planned ahead of time. Just take life one step at a time.

    If you have friends that are only interested in going to clubs, you need new friends. Perhaps you need to start looking in different places for friends. You can always consider time off university to get your life straightened out, or moving back home.

    Best of luck.

  1207. well, im hoping next year is going to be better because the financial situation will have improved and ill have more time to concentrate on my studies as im not planning to work. to be honest i think im going to try and manage as best i can, maybe get some counselling at the end of exams etc. Im achieving reasonably good marks so i probably wont be taking any time out. i think maybe the main thing is going to be speaking to someone who can help me re-evaluate stuff. also i get 5 days after my last exam to just chill for a while so think that will help. Thanks for understanding my post anyway, I feel a bit better about the work situation at least. Looking forward to the end of exams soon and not having to be in uni every day, cant wait :)

  1208. Uni life rocks. I had some of my best years in my life at university. This thread is for sad ass people who complain a lot. No wonder you guys don’t have any friends. With that attitude you wont get a job either. If you hate your subject so much change it. Only working on something that is not interesting and you don’t like sucks. If you are going through a course just because it yields a higher odds of you getting a high paid job then you probably already are a failure.

    My 2 cents

  1209. Uni life rocks. I had some of my best years in my life at university. This thread is for sad ass people who complain a lot. No wonder you guys don’t have any friends. With that attitude you wont get a job either. If you hate your subject so much change it. Only working on something that is not interesting and you don’t like sucks. If you are going through a course just because it yields a higher odds of you getting a high paid job then you probably already are a failure.

    My 2 cents

    If you want to enjoy your uni experience choose a subject you LIKE

  1210. David,

    Well I’m one of those people that is not particularly enjoying their course but I’ve decided to stick at it. Kindly explain how this makes me a failure…

    Can I ask how you came to visit this thread?

  1211. i hate you university of kent!

  1212. If I don’t get a job when I finish my undergrad degree I have to do post grad. If I have to do post grad I WILL kill myself.

  1213. Sarah: why did you come on here if you like uni then? and im sure ur alrite and u didnt mean ur last post to sound rude but you know nothing about anyone on here so maybe you shouldnt make judgements like that which arent necessarily true anyway. People come to end up in their situations in any number of ways, I’m glad youre enjoying it but dont make other people feel bad because they arent. i actually find my course really interesting and i am achieving good marks, so what exactly is your definition of a failure?

  1214. David same comments to you, except you must be the same person that’s unusual lol

  1215. oh and another thing if your ‘sad people’ comment refers to me considering counselling then i think that says a great deal about yourself to be honest

  1216. My comment number two after six months?

    I shall continue my random rambling:

    And what do i think of university? A FUCKING WASTE OF 3 YEARS.

    All it’s good for is ether Getting laid, getting in debt, wasting time, having fun (which you can do with out ir), not having fun, being
    stressed, doing one interesting subject and a shit load of uninteresting additional subjects unrelated to what you want to do). This varies from person to person.

    I’m done with all my assignments and exams and have up to 80% of my grades back which should equate to a solid 2:1 overall.

    At the time when I made my first post I had no will to live, I did not give a shit what grade i get or what degree I get.

    I simply wanted to quit I was stressed and half way through my essay at 7 am with no sleep.

    I presume this prick Mark would say “It is your fault for not having time management skills” etc well sir FUCK YOU, reading you comments just makes me want to punch you in the face.

    It’s like you’re some sort of a therapists but a really annoying one. When was the last time you got laid? Never, I presume? If you have congratulations! You are still a COCKaroach

    The only reason I went to uni is because it’s the new minimal requirement by those pricks who don’t give you a job.

    Even thought I found my subject interesting I also found it as a waste of time (BA Business/Computer Science) .

    Overall I’m glad the torment is over.

    No more PRICK lecturers who spend 1 min marking an essay in front of your class.

    I will miss a few of my good friends that I have made over the course of three years. I will miss one or two regular booty calls.

    So YA FUCK YOU UNI, FUCK YOU BRITHISH EDUCATION SYSTEM

    WHICH IS FULL OF SHIT, FUCK YOU UNI FOR LETTING IN

    EXCHANGE STUDENTS IN WHO CAN BARELY SPEAK ENGLISH

    BUT CAN GET A C+ IN SEMINAR DISCUSSIONS FOR SAYING THEIR NAME.
    (Nothing against exchange students, it’s not your fault, keep doing what you do! All the best)

    Next week I will book that holiday in a tropical island that I vowed to take and in 4 months time I will buy my E92 M-sport with cash money from my part time job which I had for the last 5 years that kept me same.

    To me a degree is like a GCSE no one gives a fuck about it, it’s good that you have one but it does not mean you’re the dog’s bullocks.

  1217. By the way , i do wish to know how the OP is getting on with life , it has been 6 years. That would be realy interesting.

    Im out for another 3 months , all the best everyone!

    P.S

    FUCK YOU MARK , YOU SLIMEY PRICK IM SURE YOU WILL BE BACK LOL

  1218. I wish i never came here.

    First year student. It’s nearly over.

    Oh how i wish i never joined.

    FUCK SAKE

    i hate it so much

  1219. Uni

  1220. First exam today. Arghhh

  1221. Last exam tomorrow YAY!!

  1222. So jealous :(

  1223. i know i am sooo looking forward 2 it! :) good luck with all your exams, soon be over X

  1224. i cant believe ur exams are so late! thats well harsh

  1225. My last one is on the 11th June :(

    Thank you. Hope yours went well xxx

  1226. Uni just keeps sucking for me, now the entire Puerto Rican system is paralized due to a strike and I am stuck at home with an incomplete. I was hoping to end this semester and at least move on. Now I am stuck with no college, my apartment’s contract is over, my parents pissed because I want to change colleges and my life as lonely as ever. I try to see the bright side, but my parents always find a way to bring me down. Oh well, you can’t make everyone happy, especially not yourself. Thanks people who have posted such nice messages, even though they were for certain people, they still convey a message to all who read them. =)

  1227. Well said Amir, i have the same view on this issue.

  1228. Im almost 32 years old and I have come and gone from University for the past 10 years. I am finally reaching the end of my degree and I cant wait for it to be over. So many hoops to jump through.

    I have never felt that school has been very effective in my life, and I have done well professionally without the degree to my name. I think the education system really needs to re-evaluate the current traditional 4 year structure of a bachelor’s degree. To long and to much time in this day and age.

  1229. I hate University too!

  1230. University is tough but at the end of the day it is a place to mature and learn about life I guess. Sure, people get it easy at university with their rich dads or seemingly effortless supply of friends but again this is just an analogy of life, it’s unfair!

    Certainly isolation has been a great experience for me, not sure why but these were the cards I was dealt along with many other shortcomings. However walking through a graveyard today, I saw the graves of old war heroes, 19, 20, 24 were just some of the ages of these people. Now that is what really sucks guys.

    Let’s face it, university may be isolating, depressing, draining, tiring, aimless and so on, but at least we’re not getting our heads blown off, like many people did 70 odd years ago and STILL are in other parts of the world.

    University has simply just taught me, life sucks, but it’s the way you look at it and deal with the things you can change that makes it tolerable and enjoyable. Whilst sounding like the master, I struggle to deal with things still but I’ve certainly begun to change internally and realised just how immature I was fresh out of those school years.

    Despite the above, this site is about hating university and I indeed I do at this current moment in time, two years in – 4 years left! However, with time that is not enjoyable it is best to improve yourself and invest it as much as possible into something constructive, to prevent the inevitable depressive cycles that I can imagine is not uncommon to many of the people addressing this website. Very reassuring to see other people outlining the same problems though.

    So just remember guys and gals, it’s tough, but at least you’re not being forced to fight a fucking war!

  1231. Anon:Comments163/172, have you managed to get a new email address?

  1232. why does uni always have to get in the way of everything? just finished for the year and no job as been too busy to look up until a week ago, the debt collectors at the ready so exhausting ive just spent a whole year working my arse off i dont need this shit right now

  1233. Year one is almost over and I am going home in a week and have done nothing throughout the year with no girls, no life and only study fucking bull fucking horse shit fuck sake fuck IT! Fucking hate uni god damit

  1234. Dirty Little Heart

    I can relate to most of the stuff written on here…scanning through I saw the comment “if you don’t like clubbing, you’re fucked, and branded as ‘boring’” which I think just about sums up today’s university experience in a nutshell.

    To put a long story slightly less-longer, I started uni in 2007 at a top-20 (i.e. 20th) university on a four-year arts and humanities course (the extra year being for a year abroad) with no particular career in mind. I originally deferred for a gap year, then quickly dropped that when I realised that I didn’t actually want a gap year because I had no-one to travel with and no plans whatsoever. It felt good to be the first member of my family to be going to university, and I was eager and enthusiastic to get going.

    I think within a week of arriving I’d had enough. Any normal person would at least become decent acquaintances with their flatmates, but not me. The only decent one dropped out (sensible girl) and the rest already had mates. I tried really hard to get on with other people in the building but all they were really interested in is getting drunk and going to clubs (hence the opening paragraph). I made a couple of friends, one of which was extremely like-minded towards the whole situation. I don’t know if regionalism came into it, being a Northerner at a Southerner dominated uni, but it certainly felt like it everyone else was some stuck-up rich kid with no particular emotions or depth beyond intoxication, or just plain pretentious and judgmental (or both). I tried really hard to get to know people but it just felt like they didn’t want to know me.

    I tried to make a connection with one guy who I talked to a fair bit at one of the orientation events and joined him for a coffee, and I tried my damnedest to make conversation (something I have always struggled with) and he eventually made it perfectly clear that he wanted nothing to do with me by giving me the book off:
    “You don’t mind if I read my book do you?”
    “No, sure…well bye then”
    Fucking prick.

    The university itself didn’t help matters by having no proper freshers week (i.e. classes started straight away) which gave very little time for socialising right from the off, I had to make sure I performed to a decent standard in my first year to ensure that I would be allowed to do a year abroad. Nobody else did this though, as the common belief is that the first year doesn’t matter (well then everyone might as well FUCKING SKIP IT THEN, and save a year’s worth of tuition fees in the process) and spent the whole time messing about. Halls were an absolute nightmare, with nobody cleaning up their stuff in the kitchen meaning I couldn’t eat properly as I had no room to cook anything decent, and by running around screaming whilst drunk a good few times a week with no consideration for others whatsoever, further enhancing my view of everybody being a bunch of spoilt brats.

    I hung out with my two friends a bit and tried the clubbing scene a bit. It really wasn’t my thing though. I tried the clubs and societies, but there wasn’t one that quite suited my needs, so I tried the closest one. I spent an evening really trying hard to make a connection with people again, but failed epically, and I’m still not sure why. Maybe it was my lack of conversational skills. My coursemates weren’t much better; the ones who were all right I didn’t share classes with, and the ones I did share classes with made nice acquaintances, but that was about it. I didn’t really have anything in common with them. Incidentally, there was no society for our course, and although one was created during my second year, it quickly dissolved.

    After Christmas I tried to crash the social groups of some of the people I knew from school, and even switched to a slightly different course to try and meet more people. This had disasterous consequences however, as I went overboard on the drinking and made a total ass of myself, and the vast majority of these people didn’t care for me after that. I would still talk to the people I knew from school if I saw them and sat near them in lectures, but that was about it. Later, due to an unrelated night of drinking debauchery in my hometown, I stopped getting drinking alcohol altogether, and have remained tee-total ever since.

    Getting away from socialising, the classes were basically pointless. I could get away with doing fuck all all week and still get fairly decent grades across the board. The downside of this was that I had fuck all to do most of the time. If it weren’t for the live gigs I think I would have totally lost the plot. In fact, I did lose the plot for a time and had to go home for a week to seriously reconsider whether I wanted to be there at all. I decided to stick it out.

    When the first year drew to a close I had to sort out housing for the second year. Due to incredible good fortune I managed to get into a decent house in a good location in the city with people who were actually relatable. I was actually able to talk to these people and have conversations with them, and they were interested in the same things as me (one was into a relatively obscure band I love, which he brought up out of the blue, and I told him all about how they were my favourite band, and another was into lower league football and I was able to talk about that with him as I also supported a lower league team.) They accepted me as a housemate and I was over the moon.

    Things were definately better in the second year, but they were far from perfect. I got on well with my housemates, and there was none of the drunken idiocy from my first year (my two friends ditched me, surprise, surprise). We hung out a fair bit and had decent conversations whenever we saw each other. I didn’t get out too much, but I was happy that my situation had improved a lot. The live gigs continued to keep me going, and over the two years I got to see some of all-time favourite bands on campus and in the city. The classes remained just as stupidly unchallenging, but they were at least moderately interesting. The year fizzled out, but there was hope on the horizon…

    I’d finally made it to my year abroad, a year at a foreign university with nobody from my home university at all. I went to university in Canada, in a city which just recently hosted the 2010 Winter Olympics. Everything about going to university there was better. The people were infinitely more open and accepting, and actually made the time to talk to others. I made several fantastic friends for life and had an amazing time. I think what helped was the fact that student life in Canada is not explicitly intertwined with clubbing and alchoholism. People drink, but they do so in moderation, and reacreational drugs are more popular and readily available (give me weed over alcohol any day.) People would much rather hold house parties than go to clubs. Maybe the 19 drinking age was the reason for this however. Either way, it helped me get to know people without having to go to clubs.

    The were a few bar outings for me, but they were not the be all and end all of socialising like they are in England. It probably helped that I was English and therefore more interesting than I am in England to the Canadians, as it helped them want to get to know me much better then anyone in England would. I lived in halls, and people had a great deal of respect for one another, unlike during my first year. There were two dedicated student supervisors on each floor to make sure people didn’t break the rules, but they were hardly needed.

    The classes were actually challenging as well, and I had a great deal of respect for the way in which people actually studied for their exams and tried really hard to get good grades, unlike in England. The university itself was more geared towards this, with dedicated study areas all over, rather than just in the library as is the case at my home uni. Many people could be seen studying at midnight on a Saturday night, on campus! University is probably taken a lot more seriously out there because it costs more and is therefore a bigger deal for the Canadians.

    I seriously considered a permanent transfer, but the cost and upheaval wouldn’t have been worth it. I’m now waiting for my fourth and final year of uni and I’m dreading it. My year abroad showed me just how shitty the place and the people are at my home uni. I went back for a day some weeks back and it was a major comedown. The only plus side is that I have managed to bag off-campus accommodation, meaning no halls for the final year.

    This is not to mention the crippling debt and my lack of any idea what I want to do when I finish. At the end I think my three years in the UK will be wasted (the one year in Canada was not wasted at all) when I could have just got a job. Also, I’ve visited my old school friends at their universities and they inexplicably have a seemingly massive array of friends. I envy them, but I’m safe in the knowledge that I did well in my one year in Canada. I can’t wait to go back.

    In summary I HATE UNIVERSITY…in the UK, and then I only REALLY hated the first year.

  1235. I only seem to nip on here when something fucks up. But im here again convincing myself that everything isnt that bad… although i slept through an exam. Seems like people have got much bigger problems. As for the person above it is shit like… i like clubs but like you say it shouldnt be the be all and end all of uni. But to be fair half of these toffs havent had chance to go out before uni.. so mostly they feel like there rebelling … i dont get it myself i prefer gigs :) i just thought about the debt im going to be in after all this is over …… not good :( if i change my name and adress………………

  1236. I dont… hate or dislike uni. But at times i do get confused and things dont go in my favour. I suppose this is just growing up and is how life works, nothings fair and you will be shit on. But in the long run why is it that people in africa who have next to nothing but are completly exactic and love communicating and congrigating through music. Where as we who have a so much more are, one a whole, a lot less happy. I mean thats not everyone but its funny how some of us dont know were born, through no fault of there own.. i think uni’s (costing as much as they fucking do) should pay or help pay for a whole year trip to kenya just to see how bad life can be and how they deal with it. Its an obscure world and materialistic goods seem to take over moral values. Im deeply confused but thats how things goes… im trying not to moan just trying to vent a few thoughts with the offchance that someone might shed some light.

    You can choose to totally ignore this :)

    Cheers

    Jackle

  1237. I had a prof this last semester that bluntly told us that uni is just another tool for society to mold the masses. You are a number in this place, leave your individuality at the door. It is a for profit institution and they make decision w/ that in mind. I use to feel dumb for not remembering what I learned in my 1st yr courses (im 3rd yr now). This prof mentioned that the courses are not ment to educate you, that as a prof he would be doing more than his job if we can remem 5% of the course material after 3 yrs. We are there to learn skills (research, networking, communicating, time management)..WHAT we learn is secondary….. I just wish I had that advice my 1st yr… well it makes sense for those doing a B.A.

    I moved to a new city and I have no friends here. I though uni would help me socialise with like minded people. I would meet passionate people and together we would share ideas and try to fix social problems….what an idealist (I know….but I truly thought the role of uni was to foster this. Inspire us and expand our opportunities….. what a disappointment). I was so shocked to discover all the dumb fucks in uni and they say the stupidest things with such confidence… that just killed all expectations.

    I don’t totally regret being in uni. I didn’t think I would be able to do this…but now I know it’s not a big deal and almost anyone can do it. If I didn’t try this out I would live my life w/ regrets that I miss out on uni. I now have one more year. All hope of meeting new people, having fun, learning… ALL GONE. I think this last year is going to be hell for me with this realization. Im in York university (in Canada) and it’s suppose to have a cool atmosphere w/ radical minds……mehh from the posts I read, it’s the same ol’ same ol’ like everywhere else.

    The disappointment of uni is one thing. But what the hell do I do with a B.A in anthropology (I got into something I actually like…and it’s getting me nowhere). The future looks grim….I wasted time and money and I won’t be getting anything from it (well that’s how I see it so far). My grades are not good to get into graduate school. Depression and anxiety, loneliness, working pt… I only put enough effort to pass… had I actually studied and put some real effort into it maybe I could’ve tried graduate school and hope it brings me to a career related to my field. So now I’m fucked…. 4 yrs of uni and I have NOTHING to show for it…. NOT: smarter, happier, w/ more friends, a career plan. I think I need to go see a counselor to cope w/ this last year. I don’t know how I will get through this one.

  1238. @Miss out, sorry to hear your having a tough time. I think you ought to be proud of yourself though. You’ve managed to get through three years under stressful circumstances. I would definitely go see a counsellor if your worried about your 4th year. It can’t do any harm.

    @Anon:Comments 163/172. Where are youuuuuu?!

    Exams are finished. Summer is here. Thank the Lord!

  1239. Firstly, please may I apologise for the unsanitary nature of my rant, but this situation is driving me CRAZY and I have to vent. My housemate is a disgusting PIG. Me and my other housemate are sick of always having to take out the bathroom bin which she fills with her gross stained sanitary towels :( its disgusting. normal people would wait until a bin is full to brim (esp considering whats in there) and then just take it out. oh no, not this girl, she has to let it overflow into a mountain with tissues all round the bin, its GROSS.
    We’re totally sick of taking it out for her so we had to resort to waiting for her to do it which means waiting a lifetime. How can u be the only one to use a bin but be too much of a princess to take it out? its repulsive! her boyfriend sees it, how does he still go out with her after seeing all the stained towels in the bin?! I cant fucking wait to move out of this disgusting house in 5 weeks time, i wish it was sooner. shes a bit strange as well so i cant even ask her to take it out as she’ll end up taking it badly as though i hate her or something.
    I feel like i am living in the developing world here, jesus i dont know how anyone thinks thats normal. god i wish i could just hand the gross bin to her and say its your turn fucking take it out its full of your smelly sanitary towels, you do it. but unfortunately for me, i am not a bitch so havent said that. its so disgusting and selfish how can you have such poor personal hygiene for godsake

  1240. @Anon:Comments 163/172

    @Rollon2011 – Hey! Well done for getting through the exams! Now your summer has started and you’re almost finished with Uni. I haven’t posted in ages because I’ve been so busy, lots of great things have happened and I’ve been working loads, got some extra work on weekends too so I’ve almost got all the materials I need, my finances have improved and I’m going on beach holiday in a few weeks. Can’t wait! Things haven’t been perfect or super easy they have just been so much better and I’m doing well, seeing friends and just moving forward.

    How are you? What are your plans for the summer? Any holidays booked?

  1241. @Anon – please leave me alone. Im just not in the mood to be listening to your shit about uni. Im over it, i quit uni. bye.

  1242. @Anon:Comments163/172

    Please ignore the comment above- It was NOT ME. Some people are so sad! Grow up whoever you are.

    Anyway…Wow sounds like your getting on great. That’s lovely to hear. I can’t think of anything better than a beach holiday!

    I’m doing good thanks, I’m working over the summer but I do have a few holidays planned for later on in the year. So it’s all good. I’m just going to pretend I don’t have another year to do! :D

  1243. @Anon:Comments 163/172

    @Rollon2011 – I’m glad to hear that you’re getting on well too!

    Obviously the weak comment above your genuine one wasn’t you, it didn’t have your finesse and general lovliness. :D Where are you going later in the year? Sounds great! I’m planning to travel about once a month and I’ve done some great/cheap day trips recently and got some free festival tickets from a friend.

    We must stay in touch, I’ll sort out my email and let you know. So glad to hear from you!

  1244. Didnt take long for me to hate uni less than four months studying online in australia, had dreadful time with first lecturer and found the place full of stuffed shirts. I felt they were breeding a place full of perfectionists, dont do this dont do that, and god dont forget to put quotation mark on that writing or the world will fall in because you may have inadvertedly plagarised. Didnt happen to me but did to many, many tears many disappointments, have to be a certain person to tackle their rigid rules. Me I like the light stuff in life, uni was a short experience thank god and a very unpleasant one and I am 54 years of age. Glad to find a site that I can vent.

  1245. and i thought i was the only one… i wish i’d read all this in my first year.

  1246. Just love this site, where you are free to speak, and express your time, thank you for starting it up, my story is long and arduous even though it was in a short period, but one good thing came from it the Disabiltity Support Services have backed me all the way and in some small way I have further their cause in helping out people more vulnerable then then stuck snobs that invade universities, with no expression in their voices and live in fear if they may be implicated in the ill health of a student making it impossible for them to continue.

  1247. I left uni long ago. Dropped out. But i still hate it thinking about it. And all sorts of people trying to pressurise me to go back. Funny thing is that i am a pioneer in that i do everything so differently to the norm. people admire that quality secretly, but openly tell you off.
    The plaigarising (or however it is spelt) issue was a big headache for me when i was there. You cannot do your own essays without taking from others. Simple as that. But the lecturers want to play mind games. Referencing, referencing, referencing

  1248. @Anon,

    that sounds cool. Try and send me somehow your email and we can be best friends :)

    I’ve spoken to my parents about uni now and I have decided to leave. It’s the best thing for me to do I think :\
    What do you think?

    I hope you’re okay, miss you!

  1249. I HATE UNIVERSITY AND WISH THERE WAS NO SUCH THING. ALL IT HAS CAUSED ME IS GRIEF AND PAIN AND EMOTIONAL BREAKDOWNS. If I get to the heart of the matter its coz i go to a shit uni with shit people studying something that will probably bore me to my death. I need to get out but the pressure of family means i cant even express the desire to leave. i hate uni and i hate my life. i want out.

  1250. Hiya, I’m a journalism student entering into my last year of university.
    It has been a bit tough for me. My biggest reason for hating university are the lecturers. Some of them are not very helpful and some of them can be extremely rude. For example, I tried my best on an assignment in 1st year and I failed. When I got my results, the lecturer was very patronising. I had more support from teachers in secondary school than I do in university. I sometimes think that some of the lecturers I have are useless and I could learn more from reading a book. I spent a semester in France as an erasmus student this year and unfortunately, I crossed paths with the biggest prick of a lecturer.
    One time, myself and my friends had an economics exam. But, we didn’t know it at the time, so we asked the lecturer could we postpone it. And he gave us two hours to study. My friends were strangely calm about this, but I, on the other hand was having a panic attack.
    We had an interview with him and he asked us a few questions. I couldn’t answer any of the questions. This distressed me a lot. Finally, I plucked up the courage to ask him for a repeat a week later. So we agreed on a repeat.
    The day of my repeat was at 2pm. At 2pm, he tells me he has to go to a meeting for two hours and could I come back at four. I say okay, but I have to collect my exam results for another class at half four. When he comes back, he starts playing Irish music to me (as I’m Irish) for fifteen minutes, despite the fact that I’ve told him I don’t have much time and I have to leave at half four.
    We finally start the exam and I thought I was okay at answering the questions. He tells me “You seem motivated, I’m going to give you a 14 out of 20.” I was pleased with my improvement.
    But here’s why I think he’s a prick, When I received my exam results, I got no grade or no credits from him and of course, I feel so pissed off and cheated. But I am relieved that I passed.

  1251. Sorry, I made a mistake in the last sentence. EDIT: I’m more relieved that I passed the whole semester.

  1252. No friends.
    No job (not that I even want one, but $20 in my bank account isn’t helping me much)
    No motivation.
    What is the point? Best-case scenario you get a job like every other sucker out there, then you pay bills, pay taxes, deal with your parents getting old, pay off your uni fees, then you die like every other idiot out there who wen to uni thinking it was going to take them places.

    University taught me that nobody is important. Especially not me.

  1253. I hate my degree so much,
    currently living in a one bedroom with my sister away from home, she’s on her intern year in her second degree.
    Because she moved away from home to study, for some reason the world decided that i had to follow suit, not only studying the same degree at a different uni which is like 2 hour travel every fucking day.
    Not only do i go to a university where 80% of the student population are Caucasians (i’m asian), i don’t actually have my own room.
    I sleep on a mattress in hers, (AS it is ‘her’ apartment). And study on the dining room table on a wooden chair.
    I HATE my degree, i’m in my last year of my bachelors, but must do a masters if i am ever able to get a good paying job. Even since i moved to study, i’ve made no friends, missed out on all my friends 21st birthdays and basically spend the past 2.5 years watching through facebook all the milestones of life that i can’t really do alone.
    The people i know in this city are comepletly different from my friends back home, i’ve tried to hang out with them, but they’re like sheep, afraid of everything…
    i’m sick of my degree and my situation, ive got another 2 years to go, and my sister moves back home at the end of this year.
    I have a bad feeling that one day i’m going to snap, and jump off my balcony and nobody would know until they realised i havent come home at the end of the semester.
    i want to study something different that i enjoy, but i;m afraid of disappointing everyone that has put faith into me and this degree.
    but i don’t want to finish and spend my life working under my sister, she scares me and frankly has turned into a complete bitch ever since she moved from home, she’s become so selfcentered, and yells at my parents whenever she comes home refusing to help out cause its not her stuff. And they let her yell, because she finailly finished the degree they wanted her to study and let her do what ever she wants. My parents are like well into their sixites, and it’s like she’s become the queen, and they want to retire knowing that she’s settled fo the rest of her life.
    I blame her for my siutation, but havent told her since i first moved into this apartment, because there’s no where to hide, and it’s not like i have anyone to go to.
    I cried every single night in first year, and now its just every other night, but i don’t think i can ever stop my self from crying…
    i want this all to stop hurting and i hate this degree and my situation so much… i just don;t know what to do anymore

  1254. I hate the fact that you are supposed to get a degree because if you don’t and everybody else does, you are screwed.
    I hate those cocky bastards I have to see everyday..
    I hate all those lessons you have to attend even though you have no interest in …
    I hate Greek schools because they make you think that getting into college is equal to succeeding in life and not vice versa.
    I hate all those high school graduates who think that the only jobs in the world are medicine, law, electrical engineering..
    I hate all the above and yet I am part of this shitty system…
    When I’ll get my degree I will destroy the sewage system of the university… Smelly shit is my only answer to you douche-bags!
    I especially hate the wanna be programmers of cs studies… They are the snobbiest, cockiest cavemen you’ll ever know… Though mentally ugly and emotionally empty, they think the world is theirs.

    Long live the university sewage inspector whom I shall bribe……

  1255. I quitted Uni, Feel great! :) Looking for a job…

  1256. come come now.

    university is shit. end of.

  1257. before going to university I was at college for 8 years doing art and at the end of those 8 years I’d had enough and was finally free from all the chavs that were there and being disciminated by staff because of looking much younger than the teens there.

    I came to university epxecting it to be better and really exciting time for me especially all my friends and family congraduating me of getting in and it sounded so cool and wonderful and since we had to pay I thought I’d get my moneys worth but I was wrong.

    now I can’t stand being in that place much longer and this is after completing my first year at sheffield hallam and for good reasons too.

    1.the staff are almost never on time including the important people who run the course.

    2.they’re never there when you need them for help other than to arrange a visit (even thats a stretch for them)

    3 the course is so badly organised

    4.our art studio was used for other classes so if we was doing work we were told to move so they could teach and run the class yet the lectures always try to encourage you to use the studio and not be at home.

    5.some of the lecturers are very patronising. we were told to do a presentation that we WEREN’T GETTING GRADED ON and had to explain our practise only to be out a foll by the twatting lecture (I felt like I just wanted to run away from that lecture)

    6 above all to me as an art student I don’t really think that theres nothing I can’t learn at uni that can’t be done at college.

    7. they used newly trained staff e.g. we had a new IT teacher taeching us how to build a website and being not very good at web base techical side I struggle and so did a few people as the lecture oftern had to pause everyone because he got muddled up

    If I knew how bad uni life was I would’ve stayed on at college or continued at college until I couldn’t do anymore. its making me depressed, down, nothing to look foward to, feeling alone and icolated, having depressed thoughts, feeling life my life is coming to an end and worrying about the future.
    its a waste of MONEY and above all a WASTE OF A LIFE AND TIME.
    I’m only seeing this through so people won’t look at me in shame for dropping out because I failed when really its due to hating being at uni. if this course and uni life is going to be much more shittier then there’s no way I will do a MA course.

    My advice DON’T GO ITS NOT ALL ITS MADE OUT TO BE OR EXCITING AS IT SOUNDS AND YOU WILL BE BETTER OFF AT COLLEGE IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BETTER YOURSELF AND WANT AN EDUCATION. I LOVED COLLEGE AND IF I EVER DECIDE TO DO ANOTHER COURE I WILL GO BACK THERE BUT CERTAINLY NOT TO UNIVERSITY

  1258. P.S. I live at home in sheffield where I’m from and with my parents too for support and I’m very stable but I couldn’t and wouldn’t want to think what its like for all the other people at uni especially the one that will have massive debt and living away from home and with flat mates that they may not get along with so I’m really lucky

  1259. I don’t get it. Why not just do your course, socialise outside university and be glad you have access to education and haven’t had to work since you were 10, like some of my family have?

  1260. Hi Kieran, I go to Sheffield Hallam Ill be graduating next year. Im relieved to find someone else who feels the same as me. Its not the uni tho mainly that bothers me its the loneliness. Im 24 and I find most other pupils are very sheep-like and immature. So its been a case of hang out with people I dont relate to or dont hang out with anyone. Plus, on my course there is little opportunity to meet more ppl. You are put in a group of about ten and stay with them for two years, and get thrown into a lecture hall all week full of ppl you dont even know or recognise. My housemates have been a saving grace for me as they are my age.

  1261. I know just how you feel krusty it was like that for me at first because I was working in the ma bit instead of ba class due to good lightning. I found it so lonely on my own and hated every minute of it especially going home late at night. I got forced out the ma bit because more ma students had signed on but Im not happy because he told me I should be in my class when he never told me that in the first place.

    What pisses me off is that we pay all this money and the staff are never there and a lot of the course is soooo badly run.

    I used to think it be great with it being in the town centre but I find it all hustle and bustle now and don’t like where the uni is based

    To be honest with you if I had a choice I’d stay on at college.

    I am really lucky to go to uni as a lot can’t get in like my friend who was applying to do this course with me but her work wasn’t good enough

    My advice to you krusty is don’t get put off and think of it that your not there to make friends or be with the people you hate. See it through to the end dude it’s not worth it to stop and pack it in and don’t let that tosser kieran imposter of me put you off. It’s a waste of money but it’ll be an even bigger waste if you drop out and just leave it at when you graduate next year.

    I graduate next year too LOL

  1262. Thanks for that :) Im actually at the collegiate campus so its an awesome area and the peak district is like a 30minute bike ride away! Id def recommend u explore around that area. And yeh, I do get pissed about paying all that money and feel like im completely wasting my time turning up. Half the stuff is on blackboard and the seminars are so fucking useless that i feel like im at school! I think they just fill in the spare hours with meaningless crap to ensure it meets the criteria for a full-time course. Grrr, oh well, ill look back this time next year and laugh at this post… and breath a sigh of relief its all over!

  1263. I didn’t do much study in school, however, I still was quite close to the top of the grades. I got As basically with not much study at all.

    In school, I remember doing final exams with about 2-3 hour study right before the exam.

    But now in university, my habit of not doing work is really taking it out of me.

    My uni is 1 hour from home. And the timetable is usually so messed up, having massive gaps between lectures and pracs. Im supposed to ‘hang out with friends’ or ‘eat lunch’ in that time.

    But who the hell takes 2 hours to eat lunch? It takes me 5-10 mins.

    And I got no friends willing to sit for 2 hours and talk about random shit 3-4 days a week. And nobody’s timetable is exactly the same, so when my ‘gap’ comes, I could be loneliest guyin my batch, sitting alone in the library, reading a textbook.

    Im not into the whole ‘coffee’ culture thing. You know, where I could sit and gossip for hours in a coffee club, ordering coffee and other random shit.

    I eat to live, I dont live to eat. I dont like so much sugarry things, like coffee. And I dont like to use coffee out of context, which is that coffee should be used to ‘wake’ you up before an exam.

    So I hate university life.

    I’m so sick and tired of it. 1.5 years have passed, Im in 2nd year.

    Its still as shit as it was the first day.

    My marks are now below average. Every exam, I am hoping to ‘pass’ at the maximum.

    In school I used to kick my fellow student’s asses in the sciences, now all of them are kicking mine.

    I dont understand how a A student like me has now become a student hoping to pass with a C.

    Even though university has far less contact time than school, its still seems more demanding and difficult.

    I think that because I was ‘forced’ to go to school, I managed to get through it. But now in uni, everything is a choice. And since I really do hate studying, despite being good at academics if I only did study, I am always choosing to not do assignments, to skip lectures etc.

    OR it could be that I really am too stupid to take on Uni. And somehow, all those other students in school just got smarter when they came to uni.

  1264. Actually, I can still see that my understanding, the raw thinking power, is still far superior to my fellow students.

    Im not boasting, Im being completely honest. Im allowed to make this judgment after having worked with science students from by batch for 1.5 years.

    We do a lot of group work etc.

    And I can see that my mastery of the science ‘concepts’ not science ‘knowledge’ is superior.

    But even still, they get better marks at the exams, better assignmarks.

    They are excellent at following the ‘grading matrix’ that every assesment has at my university.

    But I find it hard to try and fit a piece of writing which is coming straight from the mind and from thinking to the grading matrix’s guidelines.

    Basically, it doesnt matter how smart you are.

    As long as you have average understanding and can follow the guidelines they give you, no matter how stupid the guidelines are, they give you the top marks.

  1265. I worked extremely hard to get into university. I dont consider it a waste of time, only turning up to seminars. Im proud that im educated. But university is very lonely when you move to a different city and dont realyl relate to people 5years younger than yourself. Everything feels like a waste of time when your lonely because eveything seems pointless. By the way, krusty and kieran imposter, you dont know what the fuck your talking about… just wanted to make sure that was absolutely clear :) cuz if you did, youd realise all the things i just said without having to have them explained to you. Narrowminded, arrogant tit.
    Laterz

  1266. I’ve no complaints about the people on my course. I get ignored by a lot by them, but that’s because I’m not very sociable. I do tend to feel insecure about myself sometimes, because they seem more intelligent than me. But I do try to read a lot.
    My room-mates are great too, but in my first year of uni, I did have to share a room with one room-mate that annoyed me. We never had fights, we always spoke well to each other, the problem was she was just so stuck-up and pretentious.
    She was studying English at uni and the people on her course were very conceited. I know this because every day she would gossip about everyone she knew in uni. She was intelligent too and she would work hard at making her room-mates think that. For example, she had so many books in our room and said she read “Ulysses” already (this is only her first year in uni). I know people that are studying in English are expected to be reading all the time, but she had about 100 books in this drawer in her room and she would only pick out one or two of them to read. She didn’t read all of them. The books she used were in her school bag.
    She also took pride in appearance. One time, she said she would hate to be a size 14. I was a bit pissed off by that, because I’m a size 14. Another time when she saw Barbara Streisand on the television, she said “Barbara Streisand needs a nose job.” She would always harp on about how she is gaining weight even though she’s only a size eight for crying out loud. She harboured fantasies about having so much money in the future to get a breast augmentation.
    There was also this girl she was competing with on her course. This girl was very nasty to her. But my room-mate would always hang around with her, because she wanted to try and be better than her (or maybe get revenge). This room-mate (let’s call her X) that I had was the kind of person who could be nice to someone’s face, but then say malicious things about them behind their backs. I had this other room-mate (let’s call her Y) who sucked up to X and always told her she was well-read. X told me once that she thought Y was invasive, because she would come into our room at the most inappropriate times. When X left, I discovered that she said malicious things about me behind my back too.

  1267. i think deep down, past all these strong feelings of animosity we say we feel towards univeristy, i think we all hate ourselves deep down. some more than others yes but deep down were all harbouring a self hatred, one that exists because we, not university or other people, but we, tell ourselves that we are not good enough, clever, out going or attractive enough to be part of university, we hate ourselves so much for not having the bravery to stand up and be counted, not having the courage to believe that this is YOUR university too, that we ostrasize ourselves away from the very thing we desire most. if we drop that overwhelmingly large burden of pressure we carry on ourselves and instead get on with our lives as the friendly clever outgoing warm people we know we are then and only then will we have a university experience worthy of our true selves.

  1268. Nursing Student

    University is, in my experience after completing two degrees with high grades (and currently doing my third):

    1. An outmoded, disempowering and disorganised method of facilitating learning.

    2. A cruel combination of abject poverty, mentally exhausting activities and high expectations.

    3. A recipe for clinical depression – especially for people under 25 years of age whose minds are still developing coping strategies for the reality of living.

  1269. Nursing Student

    By the way, this forum is lovely.

    I don’t know that I will quit my degree, but I feel less alone and if do want out – I will feel less like a loser and more like a chooser (of a different path other than Uni I mean)!

    Thanks to all the posters!

  1270. Tarlaya vurdu Tarlayaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1271. Why didnt anybody tell me that uni and getting a job was just a freaking scam of my own life and existence. Damn it all

  1272. damn you guys !
    i graduated
    the best years of life is university years
    i lovvvveeeee uni

  1273. Fuck you Beth

  1274. Hey man, fuk ur mutha, fuk ur fartha, and fuk UNIVERSITY!

    Education is for losers.

  1275. University education can drive people mad in my shithole country.You people living in other countries like Australia should be thankful that you are not living in my shithole country run by a shithead govt which doesn’t give any chance for failures. A degree is considered as nothing in my country.

    Go ahead and read more about my fucked up country and its education system.Enjoy.

    http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/03/07/breaking-2nd-foreign-student-commits-suicide-in-ntu/

    http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/03/02/ntu-stabbing-student-jumped-to-his-death-after-stabbing-it-prof/

  1276. I’m totally dissapointed with my time at uni :( i’ve ust finished my first year and failed by 5% on an exam which I had to re-take. It sucks. The work is ridiculously hard and it dosen’t seem to matter how hard I try I feel like the dumbest student in my class. The lecturers are stuck up and unaproachable. I’m really not looking forward to going back and have thought about quitting over and over again but all that in the back of my head is that I will be a failure and get no-where in life. I’ve made a few friends but I can’t help but feel like the odd one out, I just can’t be my total self around them. I’ve tried so hard and for what? Nothing has ever got me down so much in my life and it’s not just me, my best friend is going through the exact same thing. I actually miss college :( a place where I could actually do the work and have some good friends with whom I had a lot in common with. This four month break from uni has been filled with nothing but worry about whether I pass or fail. Uni has taken over my life and depressed me so much it’s unbelievable. This place that was supposidly to be nothing but partying pfft. It’s what socitey expects of all young people nowadays and even if uni isn’t for you, you must do it. The one god thing about it is that I don’t have to pay tax, woot. Anyway, rant over :) btw I love this site and that there are people like me, makes me feel a little bit better I suppose.

  1277. Hi! Omg I am so happy to find this blog… I’m glad I’m not the only one! I feel a little bit better!
    I should be writing a long essay but here I am googling ‘i hate university’ haha I really hate it. There are only girls in my uni, most of them think they’re so glam and posh and things like that they are soooooo incredibly inmature and narrow minded and treat others ‘who don’t fit in’ like shit! I really hate my class but I can’t drop out. I already changed my major once, my dad would kill me -.- Plus I’m halfway thorough, i’ll be free in two years! -.- So to all of you who are desperate… and cannot drop out… breathe… and cry if you must this time will pass! Oh I look forward to read this post three years from now!
    Oh my I needed to vent!
    xx

  1278. I’m happy I found this!
    University in the UK consists of so many idiots who are only there to drink, sleep through lectures then complain that they failed.
    I actually care about my degree and spend all my time alone because they are all so immature and annoying.
    Wish they’d realise uni is not a club, an alcoholics anonymous meeting or a fashion show, its a place to learn, because evidently, we can’t get a job without it.
    Doesn’t help that despite the fact I got amazing grades in college, due to wanting to study a course offered no-where else I wanted to go, I am at the worst university in the country, and I’m panicking that my degree will be an embarrassment my whole life.
    Hopeless!
    Three years to go!

  1279. Uni sucks, if your not into the nightly reigime where vodka is the aim and vomming is the game your considered a nonconformist and shunned from the frankly deludeed society. fyi if you google common university illnesses in the top 5 results is liver disease whooo im so proud of todays youth.

    cant wait to graduate with my first

  1280. I started at uni about a year ago, hated it and left after a month or so. I hated having to put all that time, money and effort into something that I didn’t enjoy or care about at all, simply because it’s what society expected of me. I’ve never regretted it, and I would advise anyone who feels the same way I did to leave too.

  1281. Took me 9 minutes and 20 seconds to scroll from the top to the bottom. Enough said. The so called “scholars” of our age fails. Scientists may prove things and use “logic” to figure out how best to “teach kids”, but when they get down to it they scratch their head like the monkeys they really are. But you know what? I’m glad. I’ve figured out who I am. Someone who can’t take mental bullshit like this day in and day out.

    Best thing I’ve learnt about university: Don’t learn things from university. If you’ve learnt the stuff they taught in high school well, then you don’t need more to get through life.

    If they made scientific journals open for everyone, everyone could become a scientist. You wouldn’t need to be a university-attending person to use higher level research results.

  1282. qwerty, i totally agree with you. There’s a disappointing amount of freeloaders at uni who expect uni to be one long 3yr party and then complain about failing when they havent picked up a single book. I even have a ‘friend’ that always calls me whenever they need answers/ help/ revision etc and its sooo annoying. Normally those are the students that luckily manage to get everything paid for them by their parents. The only saving grace from this is that they will have no idea how to compete in the world of work.
    For me the most annoying thing about being at uni is the obvious thing of never having any money and constantly having to do grubby part time jobs where you get treated like crap in order to be able to pay the rent. Unlike some other students if I actually had a family that supported me I would be making wise use of my free time by working hard studying for the 1st that I’m hoping to achieve. It really annoys me when people that dont have to work and just get give booze money to go partying every day complain that uni’s boring etc. When you’re doing a full time course and working part time as well as ‘trying’ to have a social life you dont have a chance to be bored!
    Thankfully I at least enjoy my course and as I’ll be starting my final year in a few weeks, I’m looking forward to graduating next year and being able to do work that is actually related to my course for once! No more rubbish bar/ waitressing jobs thank god!!! I’m so looking forward to never having to work in another bar or restaraunt in my life! I’m going to have such a massive celebration when I graduate!

  1283. It is sad… I’ve just heard that a bright poor kid next to my house got expelled from M…T because he couldn’t afford it anymore. He is also not eligible for another scholarship… (he had to pause for some health reason last year and now they don’t continue the funding).
    It is sad because he is such a bright young man.. I hope he continues sometime. It is cruel because I know so many dumb kids that simply have money and supporting idiots (I mean parents) which continue and finish just because of that.
    Good luck T.!
    I just hate universities for this reason. Free high standards education for ALL who can manage it!

  1284. I know exactly what you are talking about!!!
    I had a classmate that was stupid PERIOD.
    His father made a huge donation to a university in Scotland.
    He couldn’t solve a simple equation (I remember the math teacher at school trying to help him cheat to pass!). He is an electrical engineer now and makes money using other people! He has no skill whatsoever. His employees just do the work. He takes credit. Private universities are full of those guys. Life is full of those guys. They suck! It is kind of funny if you think about it. I just wonder how much further sciences would be now without that academic poison called money. Wake up! Some of them also teach?!

  1285. Starting my 2nd year of Physics in October. I hate living in my little prison cell and I barely scraped through last yr. Now my mind has died over the hols and I don’t know anything. I’m scared of failing…I hate the loneliness. I wish there was something I could do about it. I hate life :( lol

  1286. Children, please your awfully worked up over very little. University is supposed to be the forefront knowledge but its not cities in England can have two or more universities, people taking courses which have very little in terms of real world applications to better mankind, the world is dying and you’ll all dragging the ship down with you if your tears and whining over sucess and money, complaining of lack of freedom. Money takes your freedom thats why I use money as a means to get by, but neither treasure it or see it as a desire. Your freedom is seeing life for what it is free of technology but as ‘damn dirty apes’ awww I’m just playing with you lot but seriously you all need to stop complaining about how crap life is and embrace it for whatever it is, if that doesn’t work for you go fuck yourself :P

  1287. I would like to go to University and learn, but I really can’t stand anything else to do with it.

  1288. I hate that rather than actually teaching us in class my teachers just send us away to do the research ourselves, what do we pay them for? I understand that it is to guide us into being able to teach ourselves for the rest of our lives… but seriously, who are they kidding?It just informally teaches us to waste time on facebook or to take a massive early mark. Uni has left me stuck in a rut! I’m in the 3rd year of my 4 year course, BROKE and I’m not even sure why I chose it in the first place – to please my parents? to let everyone know that Im not wasting my (half decent) intelligence?? I’m not sure.
    I’ve heard all those stories about billionaires who left school in year ten, or who dropped out of uni…but of course I can’t rely on that.
    One day I’ll build up the courage to leave, rather than continue near-failing by barely showing up. My excuses are getting tired.

    Here’s to taking an 8week scuba-dive course and moving to Mozambique!

  1289. I feel that the people in unis in my country have no bloody life. They study 7 days a week and spend most of their time in the library. No matter where I go in the uni, I will always feel some form of ‘pressure’ because I see people studying almost everywhere even while they are eating in the canteen. Pls get a life ! Some tutors in my uni come from third world countries and they act like big FUCK in my sch thinking that they are damn gd just because they are elites and filthy rich in their stinking shithole countries. One of them even mentioned that getting anything below a B+ is not acceptable.

    My friends also became a bit weird ever since they entered uni. One of them seems to be obssessed with getting A+ and have no time to chill and hang out after sch.Another one even metioned that he studies until 2am most of the time +during wkends because he wants other people to lose out in the bell curve grading. Everyone also seems to be obssessed with their projects and the tutors don’t even give a fuck about you.

    I wonder what is the point of studying if everything is about grades and competition and there is no time to go out and explore the outside world or interact with your friends. Can someone enlighten me on what I should do?

  1290. Oh I forgot to mention in my earlier post that some students in my uni are so obssesed with scoring As that my uni decided to open the library 24 hrs7 days a week during the examination period.(Not kidding) . I heard from some people that the library can be 30% full even at 2am during the examination period. Most of the people look so depress and lethargic in my uni and I can see their worried looks in their faces which gives me more stress to do well. The exchange students from Aussie, US, Europe looked bored and some of them told me that they don’t really like my uni and regretted their decisions coming here.

    I don’t hate unversity but I dislike the ultra competitive environment and some of the teaching styles. For those who are considering to go for exchange programmes, pls don’t come to my country which is located near Malaysia and Indonesia. Go figure!

  1291. I am about to go into my second year of a music performance course and am struggling to find the motivation to go back. Music is the thing i put above everything (aside family and friends) and this course has drained me of all my creativity and passion. It feels as though we are being trained to be robots and there are far too many arrogant people who think they are Gods gift because they can w**k over a guitar. The only thing keeping me there is my current financial situation and i feel i would be letting my family down if i dropped out. Don’t know what to do and also don’t know what i would do if i dropped out. Staying at Uni would be the easy thing but also very miserable and soul destroying. Sorry to sound really whinny just needed to get that off my chest.

  1292. I’m doing my final report worth 60%. I really can’t be fucked doing it. I haven’t left the house in two weeks except to buy groceries. I can’t write anymore and yet I feel I need to. Life feels like a horrible piece of bullshit right now. I just can’t anymore….

  1293. It’s so shit! starting again next week and i just cant be fucked with it! It’s so bad because I had a year out last year and it was so good working and earning money! I’m so poor all the time at Uni because i can only get shit shifts because i always have so much to do! another 2 years to fucking go!!! ARGH! i hate uni!

  1294. If I was government.. I would’ve banned all Universities in my country! Lolz xD

    University is tosser, I glad I quitted it! Feels great. I prefer school than university!!! But college is better than school cos college is more freedom.

    I enjoy college more.

    Hopeful I’m will doing well at the future.. :/

    Also.. Soon I might start to write a letter for my university cos they wasn’t good enough support me (Cos I’m deaf and need support) but they alway waste my time and many more terrible happened to me, I was really unhappy, they have failed with me! I want my money back!

    School and College are enough. No point to go university for more heavy pontless study!

  1295. what frustrates me most is those people who party all the time, study for two nights and rock out with like high distictintions and shit, and i’m fucking like left my life behind just to study this degree (that i despise with a passion) study pretty much eery waking hour of my life and still bottom of the fuckng grade, i wouldnt mind if my dgeree had like houndreds of people so nobody knew how dumb i was, but ive got like 100 people, and everybody knows everyone and judges u on ur marks… I HATE THESE PEOPLE… posting their shit all over the net, talking 24/7 in class and like put no effort in uni…
    I MEAN WHY THE FUCK COME TO CLASS AND SHOW OFF THE FAST THAT YES ur a genius i get it… MOVE THE FUCK ON. stop rubbing it in my face, and go fucking jump off a cliff

  1296. Why l hate University? My advise – don’t go to a UK university.

    I had a series of bad experiences in Universities. They were not my fault, but they taught me that l was very much alone and l had to fight for myself. It was a progressive experience. In University you should never ever trust your tutor or the staff as they are not on your side. In fact l hate university; in my second year of university l got expelled, was allowed to return 1 month late into my final year and then graduated with a 2/2 for which l worked my fingers to the bone, never took a christmas or Easter holiday and tried, tried and never stopped trying – this was the University of Hull.

    My first University experience was in the University of Sussex – l was expelled because l was not European enough, even though l have a European passport l was discriminated against is not on. On top of that l was harassed by the University of Sussex’s security people for many many years and would get threatening mail outside the UK etc. I remember progressively being denied access to the University’s facilities – they even let the fire alarm off when l went to the University and then on the way back to the student halls l was taunted by their security staff that they had pulled the fire switch to make sure l could not study there, as l was not a student. In my acceptance letter – this is funny l was required to pay international fees and l am an EU student this is a breach of my EU rights to non-discrimination. On top of that, there were other students from the same school who were given EU status, got LEA grants and had no problems. Why me? Because l was targeted by their security. It was a very very unpleasant experience.

    My second University experience was the University of Coventry – l showed l lived in Europe, l had a home address and l paid the 1000 pound fees. Half way during the course, as l went to visit my mother in Cyprus my fee status was changed to international student – that is ILLEGAL. On top of that there were staff members in the law school who began putting a lot of pressure on me and began humiliating and insulting me in front of 500 students, to belittle and humiliate me. That is the English way…

    Finally l went to Holland – as l am Dutch. But things didn’t go better there, l was allowed to enter the second year directly. I later found out that the University of Groningen had conducted a very through personal investigation of my previous education which was NOT normal. This included some of the work l had done in both Coventry and Sussex in addition to my O-Levels and A-Level and they had systematically bugged by phone and had me followed around. I was given the dubious honour of working as a research assistant in a research group – criminal law but l was being followed around by campus security as l was “accessing” personal information – which was true, but this was not the main reason, l don’t know what it was, but l was systematically interfered with by these security people – the director of the center would say – ohh did you have a nice talk to your mother etc – they seemed to know what l was discussing on the phone. On top of that l was constantly being insulted by him – at first l thought my work was not good enough – l had to work there for free and study at the same time – and l mean l had to do interviews, act as a secretary, do a lot of editing, prepare database files, prepare international brochures and leaflets and find a lot of information the legal library. I later discovered that l was very good, as a lot of people commented on my work – this was during a few colloqium doctums – which are like research level discussions of papers students wrote and discussed. I found it very difficult to work within the Dutch university system – their teaching methods are two fold and very tough. What l didn’t know is that l got toughened up for the trouble that was about to come. It was a very surreal experience, until they began to interfere in my life – and then things did not work out anymore – my life began falling apart. My director began to insult me and humiliate me – the spook van spoken polder – the ghost of ghost polder he would seem to know where l was in Groningen and then bike up behind me – especially when it was misty and then shout obsenities at me. It became clear that something else was going on, and that his attitude was designed to “break me” so l would drop out of school. This was professor Knigge – he is now on the supreme court, bastard. I am not a very forthright personality and am polite because l believed it was better to catch flies with honey than vinegar – l now say stand your ground and fight, never ever let a bunch of fascists walk over you! Things went very wrong from there on, l was not a student but there was some king of investigation running against me.

    Then l went to Hull and that was not a pleasant experience. They tried to put a lot of pressure on me – they breached my right to privacy, forced me to go to councilling as l was mentally ill and depressed and tried to expel me – you know what l did, l never left school so they could not change my fee status. This was the work of security – if you are a EU student, the UK does not offer a quality education and its not worth it – easy to say, but l did survive. School is about surviving. I made sure that l worked my fingers to the bone so l learned something – school should not be fun but should be about making something out of something. When you work you don’t need to be that dedicated as there are no jobs for life anymore.

    Remember that you need to fight, and nobody can do break the law against you, you can go to the police and file a report and then go to a private lawyer and sue them. Don’t let them walk over you.

    Fight for yourself – you have rights.

    Jake

  1297. I’m glad I’m not the only one! I am 3rd year English at Nottingham and it sucks! I swear the staff doesn’t even read half of the essays. We’re told all the way through that English Literature is meant to be subjective, yet lecturers will cross out whole pages of people’s essays saying “I don’t agree”. It’s ridiculous. You make arguments backed up with valid evidence, but if it’s not what they think, then they just dismiss it and give you a low mark!

    Another thing is how they can never seem to mark assignments with any sort of consistency. One lecturer marking an essay will give you a 2:1 or maybe even a 1st for it, then another will give you a 3rd. What the hell is going on?!?!?!?!? I thought it maybe just me, that I’m doing something wrong. I got an A* for GCSE English and an A at A-level, but since I’ve come to uni. my marks are all over the place.

    So, just for a little experiment I submitted the same essay to three different lecturers to see what the marks would be. Guess what, one of them gave it a 3rd, another gave it a 2:2 and one of them gave it a 2:1. Now if there was a small discrepancy in the marks I wouldn’t mind, but the difference between a 3rd and a 2:1 is about 20 marks; which is rather big! I just think it’s very unfair and this sort of inconsistency can really affect the degree level you come out with.

  1298. I too, found this through google, and let me say, I fucking hate university.

    I’m getting a BBA in accounting from a university in Canada. Oh boy, did I ever fuck up. Seriously. I fucking HATE accounting. I hate my school. I Hate all the classes I have to take. I will graduate in April 2011, and that’ll be 4 years since I graduated from high school. I agree with so many of the comments here. It doesn’t matter how fucking hard you try, you could have all the “street smarts” in the world, but you’re fucked in uni because you can’t parrot random facts out of textbooks, etc.

    Also, business is a fucking vat of vain self-serving assholes. 95% of the people I have met are stuck up snobs, and I can’t stand them. I wanted to go to law school at one point and be a lawyer (it’s been my dream since I was 10 years old), but I am so frustrated with school and the money pit it is I don’t think I’ll ever go.

    Oh well. At least it’s nice to know I’m not the only one who feels this way.

  1299. hey i found this site this morning and i was wondering if anyone could help me? i’m at university the university of Limerick in Ireland. it’s 4hrs away from my home and EVERYONE i know. i’ve just started 1st year and i really don’t like it. i get on fine with a few people but i’m extremely home sick. i came to this uni because it was the only place that did equine science at the time or so i thought i’ve recently found out dublin which is 2hrs away from home does it too. i thought that the course i did was more important than where i was but now i’ve found that this course directly opposes some of my beliefs. it would be possible to stick it out but i can’t imagine being happy here. most days all that runs through my mind is what the fuck have i done!! i feel like i’ve now got myself financially and socially trapped into something i really don’t want to do. i’ve never felt more isolated in my life even though i can drive home at weekends i NEVER want to come back to uni, i drag it out and out till i absolutely have to go back. i really want to do something with horses but i don’t know if this degree is worth 4 years of unhappiness verging on depression and i’m saying that after a 2weeks and without being put under any kind of real academic pressure. can anyone help me?? please

  1300. Christie if it’s only been two weeks i’d advise sticking it out for a little while longer. If this is the first time you’ve left home it’s natural to feel isolated. That being said i’m about to go back for my second year and i’m on the brink of quiting so i guess i’m a bit of a hypocrite. Maybe wait another month or so and see how it goes but ultimatley you have to do what makes you happy.

  1301. thanks for that. im worried that if i decide to stay at limerick for another month that if i then decided to try and get in somewhere closer to home i wont be able to. i dunno but tanks anyway

  1302. to be honest, this business program sucks the soul out of me. Honestly, I feel dead on the inside. I remember when one of the most successful profs declared to the class “Gas prices will rise to $2.40 per liter next year.” This was 2008 and a good example of why these arrogant cunts have too much power. Not that I invested based on his declaration or anything, but that was when I was just a year into Uni and believed it to be the be all end all of education.

    Fuck me, I don’t want to do anymore useless arts courses either. Sigh…. alas one more year

    Good luck everyone,

    Lorne

  1303. I hate uni because I feel like I have no meaningful friendships with anyone here, not even my housemate of the last year. The people here aren’t genuine and I dont feel like I can rely on anyone. No one ever asks me if I’d like to come out I always have to do the asking. My housemate doesnt even think to hang out with me anymore, I’m sure she has no idea just how much I absolutely hate uni. She has the time of her life with hundreds of friends. I’m so insanely lonely most of the time. I just want to make friends with some real people. One more year to go I cant wait to leave, aiming to get a 1st but I’ll be happy to leave with my 2:1.

  1304. The university I go to is a disgrace at the moment. I’m entering into my third year of university and I haven’t received a letter nor an e-mail as to when college will resume. Our class has also not received PINS for registering online. I’m so angry with the person who’s supposed to be in charge of this job. They should be fired. I also don’t like the secretary of our faculty. She’s not reliable. Every time I need help, she’s not available. Her office is either closed or I can’t contact her through the telephone.

  1305. aaron brown york uni canada

    hello, am from canada and am in my first year at york and i gotta say, its not easy. am doing environmental stuies which i enjoy. ive been listen to u guys and i gotta say..suck it up man. Thats life , life isnt easy but it doesnt mean u give up. i had the same probelms ALL of u are having right now. However u gotta understand ya ur paying for ur name on a piece of paper, but ur life is ur own and no one elses if u wanna quit then quit, but make sure b4 u do u gave it ur all 100 percent. There is no shame in failing when u did ur best. U guys have to just run ur race dont watch what the other ppl are doing just run ur race and do ur best
    b all that u can b. i hope that helps.

  1306. everyone should just stop feeling miserable. and that’s it. your doing the courses you choose by free will. do it for YOU. fuck the university students, teachers, and all that academic bullshit. just finish the course for yourselves and then proceed with your personal life. everybody loves facts, so here’s one: almost everybody who finishes a course grows up to live without the so called university best friends. it’s just normal that people split up when they grow up. that’s why we have family, girlfriends/wives and long time friends. lol, some years of hard work and then a lifetime of happiness with a good steady job if your happy, and with the people that really matter. this is my opinion so if anyone doesn’t agree, fuck it, i’m be autah… ciao!

  1307. I remember coming to this website in my first year. And my second year. I’m just about to enter my third year, and while I still don’t enjoy university or feel like I have any genuine friends I will keep in contact with… I at least feel like I will get through this next year and go on to better things. It’s also proven to me how lucky I am to have the friends I had at home because we stay in constant contact and I feel as close to them as ever and I know that however unhappy I am in uni, at least my true friends are never more than a few hours away.

    My advice to the people who are struggling is stick at it. I know this is not what you want to hear, I didn’t either. I’m not saying everything’s turned around for me, I had a terrible first and second year and suffered depression through both, but I do feel like I will come out the other side a stronger person. And as the above poster said, sometimes you just have to get on with it. Go home at weekends, go and visit your old friends at their unis (this is what I do and I absolutely looove their unis and their friends). You will get through it. It may not be the best years of your lives that you were promised but trust me, the degree at the end is worth it.

  1308. My first day of univerity was today….and I think I’m just gonna cry somewhere in the corner for the rest of the day. Some real suicidal thoughts are in my head right now. Not good. I hope it gets better in few days, weeks or months. For now I’ll just keep saying to myself: you’re doing this, because you want to be intelligent –> find a well paid job –> MAKE A SH*TLOAD OF MONEY!!

  1309. I had my first day today too and i have hated every second of it. I want to try and stay positive because my family are so proud i have made it here but all I ever here is that you need a degree to get a decent job. I feel embarrassed that I’m doing what other people want me to do, not what makes me happy. That is far more important in my eyes. Now I’m here, wtf do I do? I’m not a big drinker but I love being sociable and have always thought of being a really happy person, however I just get an overwhelming sense of fear and loneliness. I tried bonding with people but it seems unless you have a drink in your hand or someone holding your hair back you cant be properly excepted.

    Do I hold on, or put myself through more misery?

  1310. If I could kill myself I would.

    University is a scam: get all the stupid people to come and take their money to tell them how stupid they are.

    My brain cannot keep up anymore, but I have no choice. Sometimes I think I should just quit and be a janitor. Not sure I could even qualify to do that anymore…

  1311. Im going to kill myself.

  1312. There are more options wook, get on a train and just leave. Thats what i’m gonna do.

  1313. To the 1st years who are starting university,

    Don’t feel suicidal about university. There’s a bigger world out there and universities are small parts of it. Think consciously about what course you’re doing. Are you really sure you want to do this? Isn’t it more important to be happy than miserable? Weigh up your pros and cons. If you’re doing a course that you’re heart isn’t in, there’s no point in paying more fees for the next few years, you’ll feel like you’re entering into a scam. It’s okay to feel an overwhelming sense of loneliness and fear in first year. That’s exactly how I felt. Everyone in my class seemed to enjoy the course and got high grades, while I felt like I was struggling in competition with them. But I couldn’t discuss it with anyone because I felt guilty about it. Since I discovered this website, I’m happy that there are like-minded people as myself out there. I’m entering into my last year of university and right now at the moment I’m feeling anxious about it. But I want to stick it out for my degree and after that I hope to travel.

  1314. I hate the university too! Because it requires me to teach people like you… I do like my field and I do like research. Too bad the only way I can do research is to teach spoiled and stupid kids… It’s rare to have a student worth the effort…

  1315. Just a joke...

    I hope people got that…

  1316. First off, those of you who say “suck it up” and whatnot really don’t know what you’re talking about. Not everyone is in the exact same circumstances as you or, for that matter, at the same uni as you. I read someone say they go to york and they’re telling others to suck it up? Honestly, I don’t mean to belittle you or York in any way, but York is known to be one of the easiest unis in Canada and environmental studies anywhere isn’t even a rigorous program in general. This is just an example of how you can’t compare yourself or your own experiences to anyone else on this site, there are so many factors that you yourself aren’t experiencing that others may be.

    With that aside, uni truly is the closest to hell I’ve ever experienced. I would never imagine back in gr12 that uni would be this ridiculous. I got 90′s in my hs classes (took all the sciences and math) but all that means nothing in uni. I know people say that you can’t get 90′s in highschool and expect to get the same marks in uni, but what they don’t say is that if you went to highschool in Canada or the US, you’re going to get mindfucked if you go to one of the more prestigous unis that’s basically designed for international students (which makes no sense to me as to why they would accept noninternational students if that’s the case).

    my whole story would be massive but basically what I learned from uni:

    profs suck. they either don’t care about the lectures they teach so they speed through it and don’t take questions or, regardless of their intelligence in the topic, are HORRIBLE at actually teaching to the point where taking notes is near impossible as you have no clue what just happened in the last 50 mins.

    they actually want to fail you. no joke. with textbook questions being so easy and basic and then test questions being retardedly complicated + unfair marking + an even lower mark than your original if you find a mistake and ask for a remark = instafail. o and it’s real fun when you’re bellcurved down on top of all of that.

    there is no “experience”. honestly i don’t know where this bs originated from. what making friends? forget it, competition is fierce and these other people didn’t leave their country in order to make “friends”.

    having wild uni parties? never saw the point in these type of parties as you end up wasting so much time which leads to lower marks.
    making contacts? uh, no friends = no contacts. and if you mean contacts by employers you work for during your time in uni, how do you expect to get hired with pitifully low marks + the competition of international students who have crazy good marks…

    learning anything useful in the working world? a big LOL to this one. a BA means you know all the useless theory and crap that with little to no time spent actually applying it. employers don’t care if you know all the theories and shit that went into computer programming, they just want you to program the damn code! you spend too much time on academic studies and so little time on applied studies that you’re become only slightly more attractive than someone who just has a highschool diploma, with >= 2 work experience being worth even more.

    if it wasn’t for my parents who don’t understand that this uni is figuratively killing me, I’d be out in a heartbeat. They don’t realize that uni is harder than it was back in the day and that it’s no longer a matter of simply doing the work, but taking hours upon hours of possibly understanding one concept on your own since help is next to scarce. if i knew it’d be like this, I would’ve spent my little kid years practising nonstop at some sport or art or something, then i wouldn’t have to go through this hell…

  1317. I just realised that I have been blowing off my classes for over a week now… And I haven’t been in such a good mood for a while.
    I really do understand the ‘suicide bomber’ comment. It does make sense. All I wanted during uni weeks was either for the university to blow up, or for me to die. It was just that bad.
    No friends. People blank each other after a meeting. Some people are cold hard, I DON’T WANNA SEE YOUR FACE UNLESS IT GETS ME MARKS type people. The food is shit. The coffees are crap. The library is full of international students studying their maths a and business books, filling in the cracks so us whiteys end up doing other shit that earns us less money. So there’s never any library room at all!
    It’s so hard not to embed yourself in the comforting coldness of depression when you’re at uni. I don’t want to go back. I just cannot stand it!!!!!!!!! Atrghhh!!!

  1318. oh mu god none of you can hate it more than me
    im fuckin sick of this uni fuckin life
    the teatchers treat us like slaves they can ask us to do whatever they want and we must say yes to them or they will kick us out
    are we humen or robots???

  1319. you faking basterd bitchh i faaakng hate university its a bag of bollocks and a pack of titties. faaaking heell im a mango fresh of the boat and i like you. give me a rishtaa u son of a bitch i just wana vesa so i can stay here. bladddy university sucks my bum hole. faaking two faced fish in a bowl with titties like a womaan. safe bye x

  1320. I cant believe, that there is a site for this. Its great don’t get me wrong. university is a place where you meet mates for the rest of your life. I have not found such people, i thought it could be the people that i was living with last year but it turned out to a year of hell. arguments about bill, noise and other things. cant believe that the person that complained about noise, was shagging most night and on the other nights decided to put on the washing machine at like 11 at night.
    that year i failed my year at uni and now having to retake it, i was going to apply to medicine but now my dreams have been shattered. thanks to a few people that i once called my friends.
    even repeating a year, haha with caped grades get you nowhere. and then university reverses there policy about the lab distillation, well sorry you can’t do it. why, you need to get over 60% over all. it just seems that, you make a mistake and try to correct it but uni and my previous house mates seems to have the last laugh.

  1321. yea it is shit some times too much work all at once

  1322. I am in my last four weeks of university. I feel like I can’t do it anymore. If I have to spin one more piece of shit out of my brain, a brain that really can do more than just this…I think I will lose it…again…but alas I know that eventually I will. I just needed a place to write this…I can do this! The last 2000 words of bullshit before it’s all over…

  1323. Symbols, this is the real Stephen. It’s essential that I eat humble pie and admit to you right now that I have problems that need to be addressed. You are correct in your assessment of my character. I am a douche bag, who loves slashing anti-uni supporters with my typing rants. I have never had the courage to confess this, as I have narcissistic personality disorder. Hence the reason, why I’m a stubborn brute, who refuses to think about other people’s opinions. I also have dissociative personality disorder, which is quite disturbing for me to deal with. This just means I have a Jekyll and Hyde personality. So the next poster, who uses my name is just the evil or the ‘Hyde’ side of me writing.

  1324. All of you should have went to UBC, its beautiful! And actually fun, after the first week I was like fuck, I’m going to hate this shit. I was wrong, I love it now, incredible! My tip: get involved! Join a sorority/frat, club, intramurals, etc! It makes a HUGE difference!
    That’s UBC:
    UBC- University of British Columbia
    Vancouver
    Mountains and beaches :)

  1325. One Disturbed Individual

    Ok please excuse me as I go fucking mental in this post:

    Im a pretty athletic, sporty build, outgoing guy and started uni just a week ago – AND I HAVEN”T MADE A SINGLE PROPER FRIEND.
    WHY? BECAUSE I LIVE IN PRIVATE ACCOMMODATION WHICH IS FAR AWAY FROM THE CAMPUS.

    MY FUCKING UNIVERSITY RAN OUT OF FUCKING PLACES IN HALLS.
    HOW THE FUCK CAN 800 ROOMS AT HALLS ACCOMMODATE 6000 STUDENTS?????? FUCK ME. AND FUCK MY UNI.

    HENCE I CANT FUCKING MEET ANY FUCKING PEOPLE BECAUSE ALL THE FUCKING PEOPLE I MEET AT MY FUCKING UNIVERSITY ALREADY HAVE MADE THEIR FUCKING FRIEND CIRCLES SINCE THEY LIVE IN HALLS!!!!!!!!!!

    I WALK EVERYDAY LIKE A FUCKING LOSER TO MY UNIVERSITY AND JUST WATCH PEOPLE ENJOYING THEMSELVES WHICH MAKES ME SO FUCKING DEPRESSED THAT I JUST WANT TO KILL MYSELF RIGHT THERE IN THE SPOT.

    I do sports but GUESS WHAT? MY UNI DOESN’T DO MY FUCKING SPORT. A THIRD PARTY CLUB DOES IT INSTEAD AND IT IS FUCKING MILES AWAY SO FUCK THAT.

    Ok thats my rant on my uni. Now this is a rant on the girls and boys in my uni. It is sexist so beware. Why? BECAUSE I DONT GIVE A FUCK -

    I FUCKING HATE BOYS WHO PULL IN GIRLS THE FIRST WEEK OF FRESHERS COZ THAT JUST KILLS ME INSIDE. FUCKING RAPISTS. SHOULD HAVE THEIR FUCKING PENISES MUSHED AND CRUSHED. BUNCH OF FUCKTARDS.

    I FUCKING HATE GIRLS FOR GIVING THEMSELVES SO EASILY TO THOSE FUCKING BOYS AND ACTING AS FUCKING ASSHOLES WHEN I TRY TO BE NICE. FUCKING SLUTS. I HOPE THEY GET PREGNANT.

    So to sum up:

    FUCK MY LIFE
    FUCK MY LUCK
    FUCK THEM SELFISH IGNORANT “TAKE IT FOR GRANTED” PEOPLE

    Im not fucking my Uni because it seems decent.
    ITS JUST THE FUCKING SELFISH IGNORANT ASS WIPES THAT POPULATE IT MAKES ME SO FUCKING ANGRY!!!!!!

    P.S – My lectures haven’t started yet

    Send me a shout at my email address if you like this post. If you don’t like it then go fuck yourself silly.

    clarkmax@hotmail.co.uk

  1326. My university services are pathetic. I’ve probably only got enough money to last me up til the start of december and I’m not eligible for any financial support unless I have a baby or am physically sick, despite my parents having no money to help me. They refuse to give me any help from their bursary which they usually offer to poorer students because of when I started my degree, so that’s £1000 that would be so beneficial to me which I wont receive. Trying and failing to find a part time job to fit your studies in your final year and do your dissertation without financial support from anyone is pretty stressful.

  1327. I hate university aswell, people I know have always said that it is the best time of your life, but for me it isnt. Maybe its because I decided to live at home instead of moving away, but I still hate getting up in the morning to go to lectures/practicals which are a waste of time.

    On top of that I havent really met anyone that I can call a “Freind” only people that I can pass the time with. Its just one big hassle that I dont want to go through but I have to in order to be “successful at life”
    just how society tells us.

    The thing that pisses me off the most is that I feel that I have changed as a person since I started uni, Ive become more lazy, short-tempered, and have a non existent social life. I look at my brother and my freinds and see that they are enjoying their lives by going out, partying etc, and im stuck here doing the same thing day after day.

    Maybe one day I can change back to how I was, but I doubt it LOL.

  1328. UBC is terrible university, all girls ugly as fuk, and 99% of people in all my classes are nerdy ass chinks who study all day, and they all look horrificly ugly and speak only chinese

  1329. regin-
    Yeah in one of my discussions i cant even understand what the TA or any of the students are saying cuz they all speak some asian language, or in a really thick-hard to understand accent. so yeah i guess ubc does suck, but its not too bad, i mean besides the class/lecture part
    do u go to ubc?>

  1330. being a dickheads cool

    my university if full of these types of fucktards;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I.

  1331. Brawled In, I agree with you. Especially with “uni is the best time of your life”. This is what my family tells me and I do not understand them at all. I am too do not live on campus, this is why I think it’s hard to get to know people well at uni, cos I’m commuting and it takes 2 hours as a rule, so there is no time for me to engage in social life (which as it believed by my family is the coolest thing on the planet earth). Though I have several friends, it’s still hard to keep up with them: they live in the different city and I am sort of not there in their life… Also I think the major problem is the fact that it was not my desire to be at uni. I go to uni entirely because this is what my family wishes. And do not have nice appropriate reasons not to follow this path. And because I know that I am a failure in terms of not doing what’s is right for me (as I believe. and all i want for now is to get a job and to understand what the hell i want outta my life..) it makes the uni experience so … i dunno, stupid, fake, u name it.

  1332. I hate university Im studying to be a nurse, but the teaching rubbish and some of my suppose uni friends well. I feel totally isolated when im there , I got on with everyone at first and now they don’t want to know me. I feel like ive done something wrong or they just all hate me. Everyone says its the best time of your life and its not maybe its the fact I hate it and my uni Im in is rubbish.

  1333. Read this and weep

    University is a big waste of time,effort, and money unless you need to go and have a clear path.This means courses like medicine and law are very good to do. How, I wish i had been more job specific with mine.

    I am in 20k debt and the crapppy little piece of paper i have STILL has not helped me. I have not had a job since i left uni. The irony is my friends who didnt go to university all have cars and some have even purchased their own houses now!!!!

    People with NVQs are also being picked ahead of me as there qualification is job specific. A degree in maths from a top 10 uni shows i can do maths. It has not helped me get a job though.

  1334. Read this and weep, how long has it been since you finished uni?
    some of my friends found jobs within 4-6 months.
    hmm interesting thing about me it’s that i’m planning to get a job where uni degree isn’t that necessary, but whatever))

  1335. Why is everyone moaning about uinversity if you don’t like don’t go, its simple. I’m at uni now its hard but I will get a job at the end of it. I have struggled in uni but I get on with it to provide a better future for myself.Ive spent so many years looking for a job and decided to fo uni because I felt it would get a me somewhere. They’re are so many opportunities now a days and uni is one of those places. Also do what you’re good at there help out there. I know people who have degrees couldn’t get a job and gone back to uni.

  1336. @danielle So if you don’t like this forum, why don’t you come off it? Oh yeah, it’s okay for you to put others down and boast about how your “suck it up” attitude is superior to others who want to be honest.

  1337. University does suck yes, however based on society, it is the road which is best appriciated by employers, this is because an employer will always pick someone who has a degree over someone who does not. I see this as a very large problem with the system, because if, everyone NEEDS to go to uni to get a job then the whole system is screwed because nobody can get a job. What would happen if everyone had a degree? Think about that.

    About making friends issue, students fail to realise that going to clubs is not a good way to make friends, the music is too loud for one, and secondly everyone is drunk. Clubs will damage your hearing, do you really want to leave university deaf, losing one of the most important things in your life?

    Social dependancy is a sign of weakness and employers want to see someone who has their head screwed on, not someone who goes out drinking all of the time, so grow up fast otherwise you will not succeed in university.
    Also do not be afraid if university is not for you, because it is not for EVERYONE.

    Also remember, it isn’t a JOB that you want, it is the money at the end of it, it is true money isn’t everything and doesn’t make you happy, but i can tell you one thing, it makes it a hell of a lot easier and allows you to persue those goals to find happiness. IT IS NOT ABOUT GETTING A JOB, nobody WANTS to work, they just do it to live in the society which the government has layed out for us, which is also a reason why NOBODY should vote, because rulership is basically slavery, instead of just blacks being slaves, now we all are to EMPLOYERS. Feels good to get that off my chest :)

  1338. damn its hard, but im gonna see it to the the end, cant wait till im no longer a student

  1339. Its my 1st month of university, …..no friends at all, struggling to keep up with work, finish one assignment..then the fuckers post in more assignments due next day…. sleep by 2 am and wake up fucking 5 am everyday (fuck engineering!) i cant change my program too, because of external pressure..suicidal thoughts keep running in my mind…i try to socialize but to no avail…its like everyone has already formed their friend circles…so fucking annoying…..

  1340. Karan- just pull through, an engineering degree is a door-opener, it will be worth it in the end. Maybe take fewer credits next term so you will be less stressed, you can catch up those missed credits in summer school. Or just finish your degree in 5 years like lots of engineering kids do because it’s less pressure and you get higher marks…And maybe join some clubs which is the easiest way to make friends and socialize ( you will get time if you take fewer classses)
    Also, when you say external pressure? is that your parents? because if it is, screw them, do what you want, it’s your life. If engineering is not for you and you don’t like it, don’t waste your life.

  1341. being at uni means no money = no life, no going out, no drinks, no nothing.

  1342. Lisa- Thanks for your reply, I’ve joined several groups, its just that i don’t get time to attend the meetings, cuz they just clash with classes (its all packed). I study in University of ontario institute of tech.,Oshawa, Canada, it does not offer engineering courses during summers, so i just have to fit in all 5 courses this semester. Winter is going to be worse, cuz its going to be 6 courses…i have no choice but to follow the program map. By external pressure, i dont mean my parents. I love them…they are my only motivation.Its just that, I decided to take up engineering in uni during high skool, so i took only math and science courses in grades 11 and 12…i want to be an engineer..but why does it have to be so stressful?…i just dont get time to breathe…i sleep hungry many a time(i stay on campus) cuz i feel i would waste time goin to the cafe to grab food, instead sit and study…then the homeworks are just too hectic…they dump hw’s like we dont have any other course to work on…tomorow is my calc midterm….but i could not study for it in an appropriate way because i have an assignment due that day….its just tooo much to handle…im strong willed….i can take in loneliness for now since its just the beginning….but I’m not a machine…to work tirelessly..

  1343. i moved over from ireland to england to study architecture. im in my second year now.

    i passed first year, grand, but this year im already falling behind!! we have so so much work to do!
    i literally dont sleep anymore, ill be lucky if i get two hours sleep every 24 hours.

    the stress is terrible. and im not the kind of person that stresses about anything!

    i live on energy drinks(to stay awake, there arnt enough hours in the day if i sleep) and bread and butter, i literally pick the mould off the bread to make it last as long as possible cause i cant afford to buy it very often!!

    we have essential self funded trips for certain modules which i cant afford so im missing out on that and falling behind.

    (i will have money at some point, but my student loan doesnt even cover my rent here, £100 a week, so duno how im gonna manage that)

    i have no time to join clubs or things as people are saying ^^ up there, so no friends, not that id really have time for them.

    my lecturers are rediculous, the spout endless diatribes about the truth and soul of a building. ive actually decided against becoming an architect once i graduate because of the bullshit they come out with.

    they also seem to enjoy humiliating students who for some reason or another have fallen behind in their work. yes that does include me, and quite a lot of full time students.

    it seems to study architecture here and not lose your mind or drop out you have to be part time. only then do you have lecturers who are still insane but who give you a certain amount of respect, you have the time to actually do the work and can have a job which helps you actually understand the work, which may i add our lecturers teach by saying ‘read such an such book to understand this concept’ . that is it. now i understand *reading a degree* but what exactly do lecturers get paid for?

    im not getting £24,000 in debt to go to classes i get humilated in, and could learn myself by reading the powerpoints online and reading the books on a reading list.

    im dissapointed in uni. or more specifically, this uni. anglia ruskin!

    ive been a computer science student back in ireland, i didnt realise it at the time but the uni i attended was amazing.
    computing bored me to tears which is why i left .. cant help but think id be in final year now if id just stuck at it.

    thats the only reason i think im sticking at this one. i hate it so much right now, but if i leave ill regret it like i regret leaving uni before.

    grr.

  1344. I have just started Leeds Uni.
    And my soul is gone after only 5 weeks.
    All it is here is TOFFS TOFFS TOFFS!
    Most nights I sit in my room reading the endless bullshit that is “required” just so I have something to say in class and hence am not spoken to like a piece of shit by the tutor. The other “people” in seminars talk like they are the actual lecturers and I can’t take it. NOBODY- teachers or students alike, can understand my YORKSHIRE accent- and the fucking uni is in Yorkshire!
    Before I came here I had every confidence in myself and my abilities.
    Fuck uni, it is NOT the be all and end all, my brother is on a grand a month in his first job back home.
    Literally the only thing dragging me through each day is the prospect of heading home at the weekend to be with the common people.

    “you’re a slave to money then you die” is the lyric embedded in my mind at the minute. HMmm.

  1345. I hate university. Before I went i would just waste time hanging out with people and getting trashed and now i do exact the same thing, except away from my parents and with lectures thrown in.

    I’m not pissing it away and have good grades while attending a very good university, I just find it really dull, and come out every lecture feeling like shit. I make tons of notes and then ace the exams, but I don’t know…

    I think I just miss when I was in my mid-adolescence and used to hang out in a park. It’s just more bullshit to deal with.

  1346. Michael-
    I miss the park too. 16 weeks off for summer next year- I know where I’m going to be spending every minute.

  1347. Yes i fucking HATE univeristy…

  1348. so i had just finished an exam tonight and when i got home i was just exhausted and pissed so i decides to google ” i hate university” and this popped up. for all the people who are on here telling people to stop complaining…find something else to do..when i saw all these post about how university sucks it actually made me feel better; it reminded me that im not alone in all the crap. sometimes its nice to have someone to bitch and moan to, even if its over the internet, just to get it all out

    so here i go haha:

    things i hate about university:
    1. non-english speaking teachers ( i go to school in british columbia )
    2. students who dont speak english in the classroom.
    3. how every semester they force you to buy a new text by making a new edition.
    4.no social life( at least at my uni. there all asian and speak their own language)
    5. student loans (they denied me for my student loan one semester because i was retaking a course and then two weeks later they send me an email saying they want me to start paying it back!! yeah okay with what money?!?!)
    6.everything!!
    7. the bus to go up there is always full and i only sometimes get on!

  1349. right now.. YES right now, i can really say, I HATE UNIVERSTIY…. well, this feelings are reallying coming since i just not prepared for Operating system assignment.. NO GIRLS.. NO …NOTHING..BULLSHIT here in engineering universtiy…

    What i need ..is some sort of DRUGSS…..

    peace out..

    well.. dat wasnt true… i like uni as well.^^

  1350. It’s good to see that I’m not the the only one who is sick of University life. And this blogs been going since 2004! What ticks me off about the 2 and a half years Ive spent at Uni so far are the people around me. The majority of them seem to be Whores, and in the words of DR. Cox ‘not the good kind’, whores for ‘friends’. People are so artificial and seem to do anything to get in everyone’s good graces. Your thinking fair enough right? Wrong…most of them and don’t get me wrong not everyone, seems to do this for purely their own benefit. They get to know someone so they can be their bitch if they ever on that rare occasion need to get something out of them. The rest of the time it will just be a cursory hello and fuck off because today i have what i need. I don’t get why so many of the people i know seem to think they are better than everyone else. Maybe its just the subject i do, Law, it attracts people of, for the lack of a better word, a cunt-ish nature. Whatever it is, it needed to be said!

    Ill be back with more! cos i know there will be.

  1351. I did advertising at uni – the course consisted of 2/3 nasty, bitchy women and 1/3rd okayish people. Problem was, the bitchy ones were usually much more vocal.

    I started off uni mildly depressed and ended up 3 years later VERY depressed but in denial about it. Since then, I’ve beaten depression and unemployment and am now successfully self employed in a non-advertising related job.

    Not ALL of uni was terrible for me, some of it was fun. It’s important to remeber these things.

    Seeing as I can’t rewind time, I try not to regret it all but my advice is this: if you want to drop out in the first or second year, drop out. If you’re in the 3rd year – stick with it because (sadly) that piece of paper does open SOME doors. But remeber that hard work and charm are still more important anyway.

    And my final comment is this: if you expect life to get better after university – MAYBE it will and MAYBE it won’t. Until you take responsibility for your life and say ‘f*ck you’ to all the people who disagree with you (there will anyways be someone who does), your life will always be determined by other people.

    Chin up, amigos

  1352. I hate uni too. I have been here a month and i have been so ill and missed loads and now im scared of facing my teachers because i was meant to go to a meeting about it but i was ill that night and woke up late and missed it and im scared to get thrown out coz my parents will kill me but i dont want to be here either cause im so ill since i got here :( im at anglia ruskin cambridge…

  1353. Too many stupid people at university. All those girls in history and sociology piss me off.
    Every other program just takes up all your time its so annoying. 6 courses a semester of math/engineering is fuckin retarded. Im gonna study fuck my brain and still not TRULY learn the material becuase there is no time. how bout3-4 courses and you actually remember/understand the material a week after the course is done.

  1354. This website just saved my life, seriously! It is a great feeling to know that I am not alone when I say: ” I HATE UNIVERSITY!”. It kills the artists within all of us as it does kill creativity. I’m in 3rd year right now and I’m surprised that I haven’t died from all these all nighters. My health is going down the drain( major bags under the eyes, a brain of mush & the caffeine intake is far from normal–its killing me).The professors are so uninspiring I cant bear to hear them go through the notes. Its either their way of doing assignments or you get a big FAIL not only written on your paper but forever engraved in your soul. I can’t even remember the last time I went to my lectures as they bore me since I do not listen, all I do is think “WHY AM I HERE!?”

    & I know dropping out would be a solution but my parents don’t make it easy for me.

    Not to mention everyone at university is fake and arrogant as if they are perfect and special when they are clones programmed to do what they are told and to feel superior than the rest of us folks.

    Conformity kills.

  1355. Pain is temporary. If you endure all the bullshit you go through now, you’ll feel better when it’s all done. You got to have integrity and confidence people. Life is a bitch, don’t be its bitch. Grab it by its THORNS and suck that pain up.

  1356. I don’t know but 1 hate university. I am timid and because of this, I have no friends. The other students make a group of friends and it’s very difficult to integrate it. They pass too much comments on me I think..Oh this boy was absent for the assignment and so on. My life is just…going to university and home. NO FRIENDS , NO ONE. My old FRIENDS went studying abroad..

  1357. Hi guys. I haven’t commented on here for about a year and I just wanted to let you know that I made it through first year with good marks. However second year is even worse and people are just as awful and stuck up as before. I hate the place and have not one good memory of it. I arranged a meeting with my advisor today about dropping out and my mum agrees with me which is a nice surprise! Wish me luck – I’ll need it cuz I have no idea what I want to do with my life now!!!

    PS – anyone at glasgow uni studying second year computer science or first year history? Hi! I’m the panda girl =]

  1358. I FUCKING HATE UNIVERSITY. Words are not enough to express the contempt I have for this institutution. And yes, it’s all about being “socially acceptable.” I wanted to be a filmmaker/artist but my parents wouldn’t allow that (you know, the “money” argument)and I had to go into Biomedical sciences. The worst shit I have ever been through (still going through it). I honestly feel like jumping from the tallest building. I fall asleep in nearly every bloody lecture at all times of the day with that boring crap that we are supposed to memorize. It’s all dehumanizing and I’m beginning to feel repulsed and disgusted by human beings (you know, they dig it in your head that we are “survival machines”). I’ve forgotten how to write creatively the way I used to and I feel like all the potential talent and poetry I had is seeping away. I feelworthless and like if I’m rotting prematurely. I sympathize with all of you, but we have to do something about it, we have to change this-the grand scheme of things. You know, after all, we don’t know why we’re here but it’s even more absurd to spend a brief life doing things we don’t want to do and remain slaves of the hellish “metro, boulot, dodo.”

  1359. Instead of ranting I will use logic:

    All of your troubles stem from Capitalism. Don’t like it? Why the FUCK do you vote like sheep you fucktards? Where the fuck were you during G20? Next time there is a G20 meeting all of you get your asses there and protest against the Capitalism pigs who are creating all of this misery just so they can get an ego boost.

  1360. from what ive read….. it sounds like people are doing the wrong course, going to the most depressing, sad, horrible universities and study so so so much that they have no life.

    don’t you have friends from the same school at the same uni or even doing the same course as you? if not, are you so socially inept that you cant talk to people in your class and make new friends?

    so heres the thing: you’ve chosen the wrong uni, chosen the wrong course, and you obviously cannot balance out work and play. at my uni the majority of people have jobs and can afford rent and going out etc every week. i don’t see what is so hard about that. my guess is that you are all so incapable and unmotivated human beings that uni isn’t even right for you!!

  1361. What I hate about the system is that it teaches you how to bullshit. Your opinion does not count… the WAY you present it counts. Therefore if you propose a retarded, counterproductive idea but support it ‘logically’ and follow the paragraph system of the appropriate literary essay you will get a good mark. Is that not just breeding us to become selfish lawyers? How is that good for society?

    Also, the enforced ‘averages.’ The class averages HAVE to be in a certain range… therefore if EVERYBODY actually studies and gets a 75 for example, the Prof HAS to lower some people’s mark.. WTF?
    Competitive BS.

    Also, electives are a major FAIL. They don’t open up your mind at all… they just force you to research about the stupid theoretical aspects or memorize what some 19th century bearded man said.

    Having said that, if you enrolled in a program that is within your intelligence, and you work hard, you WILL comfortably get your degree and the degree WILL be useful in some way after you graduate. When there is a will there is a way.

  1362. I don’t live on campus… I am a 30 minute bus ride away. The typical fakebook lurking, egotistical, metrosexual, ‘bro’ saying student (99% of the student population) is not at my intelligence level thus having friends does not entertain me. I am smart enough to dumb my self down in order to have friends, which I did, but I just realized I am not enjoying seeing them everyday and having to say ‘whats up brooooooooooo…. what did she post on your facebook braaaaaaaaaaah.’ I find this retarded so I now isolate myself. I love walking on campus alone. I am quite misanthropic… but I love the sight of bodies walking because it is mixed with the nostalgia factor (when I was a kid these problems did not exist so I liked people). However, when someone walks close to me and is talking about their typical fakebook life in their bitchy voice it lowers my IQ.

  1363. Donna – I’m currently working as an academic vistor at Glasgow University.

    It is hateful, but after many months of unemploymentI was willing to take anything.

    Being an AV is just like being a student – all the admin staff treat you like dirt, the foreign students laugh at my accent, and work wise I’ve achieved damn all.

    So you are not on your own.

    Oxford Hater

  1364. I’m glad there are so many people out there who dislike uni, at 6th form i was pressured into going teachers claiming ‘you won’t get anywhere if you don’t’ but worse ‘you won’t get anywhere if you dont go to the very best uni’ what a load of brainwashing fuckers. I feel like i was so much better (and smarter) BEFORE i came to uni. I wanted to take a gap year but my parents didn’t like the idea and so since i started 3 years ago (i’m almost done) i’ve been unhappy, i fight back the tears so often the people i love the most must be seriously pissed off with my moaning. Although ive discovered a lot about myself and i’ve realised my true passions and interests and what i really want out of life, i stil feel that uni has knocked me back rather than push me forward, i’m a stone heavier now than when i started, i have no friends (only my best ones who i never see cos they’re at different unis) and it eats me away arrrrgh! Not to mention the shitty debt. To think if i’d got a job straight away i’d have done a decent amount of training, i’d have my own place, probably a steady relationship and be on fairly decent wages. In 3 years i don’t even feel like i’ve learnt a thing, lectures still go completely over my head or i think ‘when the fuck did you teach us that?’ etc i cannot wait to leave. True intelligence is not a degree, i vote the university of life baby! I just wanna travel and live while i’m young!

  1365. Most people find this site when typing in “i hate university”, probably while sitting at the computer trying to get microsoft Excel or Word to work properly for some assignment. Its pretty feasible that anyone would want to have a rant about how much they hate it in those circumstances.
    I don’t know how people can not understand how there is a lot of hate for university. With the recession in full swing, and more people having decided to get degrees in recent years, there’s a lot of pressure to go. Even with top-up fees in Britain and increasing debt it seems to be the “done thing” now. So when aspects of it disappoint them or don’t meet expectations its understandable that they’d rant about it.
    It doesn’t mean you’re a fuckup if you post on this website. Of all the great things you’re supposed to have at university, a social life and independance are the biggest cons because you can get that anywhere. You could move out of home at 18 and get a job instead of uni (well you could before the recession).
    I never really met anyone at university i particularly liked that much even if i did have friends.
    The worst thing about uni for me was the idea that you’ve been in education for 14 years, two of them not compulsary and then you get drawn into doing three more that you have to pay an extortionate amount for. I think the Labour government that just got booted out concentrated way too much on education and higher education and getting people to university rather than concentrating on the people who won’t get to go to university at all or trying to provide jobs for graduates. The coalition probably won’t be much better either. Personally if i could go back in time i would just leave school at 16 and get an apprenticeship because i realize sixth form was a waste of two years as well. But i’m not bitching, Jack Sprat. I’m just saying.
    Anyone at sixth form who is not really sure about university i would advise to think very carefully about what they really want. If anyone is thinking of dropping out and the only reason you’re still at university is because of what you’re friends will think then just do it. Drop out. Alienate your friends…

  1366. hahaha Jack you’re a funny one, this isn’t english class nor a case study for me to analyze and systematically present my points, its a random forum full of comments, i’ll get my point across however informal it is. i’m not even pissed at you anymore, i’ll just let you keep trolling this site, it must be the brightest part of your day, have fun.

  1367. I go to UBC – I an 22, and I am somewhere between 2nd and 3rd of Science.
    It sucks big hairy nutz….”Deeeez lil Chinese nutz” that is *hang over quote*

    Regin and Lisa, I feel the same way – lectures are fucking terrible.
    TERRIBLE
    profs also suck. They are usually old and completely unable to connect the lecture material to the shit you end up seeing on exams. Isn’t that nice for the student eh?

    The only thing I actually somewhat enjoy are my labs. Why you ask? T.A.’s aren’t profs, and they went through the same shit you did and most (i hope) recognize the struggles you deal with.
    There are definitely shitty T.A.’s, but I’ve been fortunate I guess.
    Mostly labs just let you do your thing and talk to people you want to, and ignore people you want to.

    Lectures just fucking blow…
    I studied hard in September, but now my motivation has disappeared, after the raping that is midterms

  1368. Mike I love your post!

  1369. Maybe we wouldn’t all be so miserable if we didn’t have to take out a massive loan to pay for this torture. That really takes the piss. All these politicians pushing up tuition fees further when they received a FREE university education!

    I entered the third year of my course thousands of pounds in debt, only 30% of my degree complete, and feeling like misery and melancholy were now fixed personality traits. I developed severe depression later in the academic year, having to defer led to a breakdown, hospitalisation and a prescription of anti-psychotics followed. It was awful. My mind is now totally fucked. I couldn’t even go back to study if I wanted, I’m not capable of it any more.

    I was always the quiet guy who did well at school. University counselling was useless seeing I wasn’t going through an emotional trauma, I needed psychiatric and psychology help.

    I achieved a first (78%) in my second year only for my tutor to tell me I could and should do better. What, a First *? He was a professor, I was a stupid undergraduate, I believed him. Even when you do well it’s never good enough.

    I tried so hard not to care! I didn’t even want a degree – why is it assumed that all clever people should get one?

    University overall has crippled me intellectually.

  1370. Ghostibator- My motivation disappeared too, I was doing so well in Septemeber but then came the midterms. I failed all of them miserably even though I studied for weeks. Fucking lectures were bullshit, wasted my time going to them when I should have been home memorizing the stupid textbooks. Its only October but Im already so fucking miserable, December is yet to come…exams.. arghh. The weather doesnt help either, yeah UBC is a beautiful campus…in the sun!

    People in university are so fake- half are blatant careerists and half are stupid drunks. All of them are fucking users and only talk to you because they want to connect to you on linkedin – stupid idiots. I havent met any non-arrogant, self absorbed student yet who doesnt list all their lame achievements upon introduction but I suppose thats because Im in business and thats normal behaviour…fucking retarded behaviour morelike

    Anyway youre in science- good luck and good job on picking a useful faculty that may get you a decent job.. Here I am slaving away in fucking commerce- to get some crap 9-5 job that will make me want to kill myself.

    The University of British Columbia= home of unhappy, spiritless zombie-like undergraduates since 1915
    Motto: Tuum est (Latin) -”Up Yours”

  1371. Anon:Comments163/172

    @Rollon2011 – Hi! How was your summer? I have been so busy with job hunting and work and other things. I hope Uni is better this year. Email me here: ChattyFem123 @ yahoo (dot) co (dot) uk

    Stay in touch. All the best.

  1372. University: Grades never reflect effort. One minute you’re scoring As, the next minute Fs. Why? Fuck knows. I have to deal with so many unfair on-the-spot assessments and lab practicals, with no preparation, guidance or any coherent lecturing.

    Workload is all over the place. One minute you’re coping, next it’s 3 exams, 2 assessed labs, an MCQ test and a clinical placement all in the same week with no study break before hand to prepare at all. WTF?! Who organises the structure of the classes? Half the time my lectures are in 3 hour blocks from 9am-6pm – TOO LONG, TOTAL BULLSHIT. Miss a class for a clinical placement, and I stand no chance of catching up. I cant believe I have to MISS classes I’ve paid for, to attend other mandatory components of my degree like a placement at the hospital. Only to be told I’ve got to make up the lab session I was forced to miss (by them!),on another day that is already CRAMMED WITH WORK and EVERYTHING counts towards my final grade, but NONE of it towards my degree.

    Proffs just read off lecture slides, as bored as we are. Or they rush through quick as they can to get home, no time for questions, not that they listen closely enough to answer – not that they can actually TEACH.

    I drive 2 hours a day commute to be there, only to wish I hadn’t bothered coz I could do it at home more efficiently from a book. Problem is half the dicks won’t post their lecture slides online, because they expect you to come stare adoringly at their critical faces, scribbling down their jibberish which never makes coherent sense to any student, no matter how smart.
    7K a year they want for this treatment now.

    Unless people have a clear career path with their degree, don’t waste your time, money or soul on University. It’s an institutionalised money-grabbing hell.

  1373. Last exam of my degree in a couple of days. I hope to never have to repeat this shitty degree. Ever.

  1374. another enginr

    I m kinda happy after reading these posts….happy to kind people like me..
    the night before my 6 th exam of the week i jus type “i hate chemical enginnering ” in google n this shows up :P

    ahhh….trust me!!! my college sucks!! n its one of the best ones in India…loads of issues…crap profs…who teach shit!!! loads n loads of test!! grades….(mind you i m in the top 5% of my class n not any loser) i hate it…

    i m in the last year of graduation…n dey dont let us relax a bit…n worst part,…they (profs) grade us on the basis on their personal opinion….n the kind of place it is…wer having a boyfriend is a crime(in the eyes of those ols desp profs :x )…a girl smoking n drinking is enf to make her an outcast..

    can u believe it..i hav been stuck in suck a place…after struggling for two years to prepare for these fucking entrance xams…get a rank below 5000 among the 5 lakh students….i feel soo hopeless n helpless…i feel suffocated here…

    I discuss these things with some of my close friend…but today i found a place to pour down my feelings….i m glad…

    i jus cant do anything abt it…n writing it hea..comforts me..

    i m in the league of college sucks!!!!…

    love you all guys…u made me feel a lil better :)

  1375. It’s not university i think i hate as much as myself for not getting this shit done 13 weeks ago when we were first exposed to it. I have been at uni for 9 years now trying to finish this Bsc. Interesting content, at times yes, but fuck i hate exams. instantly i get a hand cramp, even just at the thought. i hate assignments more. i worry more about not paraphrasing or plagiarising than actual content. such a ridiculous method of assessment. when we go out in the real world we have access to google and textbooks, why the FUCK is is necessary to cram my head full of this BULLSHIT, plus the unecessary anxiety, sleepless nights, rah rah rah. I have over 2000 pages printed out which i’m meant to memories and understand .. . .. but they are only asking us fucking 10 questions, ffs.

    i just wish it was like tafe, where u have the option to re-sit without a drama, or ‘open book’, ahhhh now that’s more a reflection of real life.

    i have to stop rambling and keep studying. if i fail this semester .. (!!)
    fuck i hate this shit! grr!

  1376. ps. yup sorry just read over and yup i realise spelling (memorise) and gramatical errors .. no need to point them out now, to all those ppl ‘above me’ who have focused this stream entirely on picking at the way the way that some individual has chosen to express themselves. I don’t know why i choose to employ haphazard use of capitals when i’m online. Laziness, i presume.

    in any case, these posts have sucessfully helped me vent a little, empathise with others who are feeling the same or worse, and giggle at those who pointedly continue to argue for the simple sake of argument.

    thanks! i hope you all graduate. we CAN do it!

  1377. Uni sucks is all I wanted to say! The guy who said international students is right on the ball; your in competition with boatloads of them (Canadian Uni’s).

    I am almost done. Life has become so lifeless doing this shit. Electrical Engineering is my major by the way.

  1378. I hate it too Uof A sucks I thought it would be soo good but now I realize how shitty it ias

  1379. Firstly I’d like to say I have had no problem making friends. I go out all the time, have a lot of different groups of mates and I have joined lots of societies. I managed to do this without even getting into halls (I had to find a flat!); so for those of you who are having problems making friends and are basing THAT on the reason you hate university; I think you should reconsider that fact that its probably not university itself that you hate, but instead your inability to socialise.
    But that’s all I have done at university – make friends and go out. In terms of the course; I CANT STAND IT. I’m a psychology student, and I have always been fun, talkative, interested and extremely inquisitive ever since I started education.
    But I just cant stand the way things are taught t uni. I’m not sure whether its simply my course; but lectures are boring, repetitive, uninspiring and unimaginative. A-levels were much more fun, as the classroom situation was a lot more friendly and easier to learn. Although the irony here is that I hated my a-levels at the time too. Perhaps it should be an acceptable conclusion to say; higher education isn’t SUPPOSED to be enjoyable; and that sheer fact is what makes you, and others, appreciate you’re degree later on in life?

  1380. Salford Uni Student :)

    Im in my third year at Salford University studying Psychology. I dont know where to start really.. Firstly, I randomly came across this forum and was reading the comments thinking ”omg”. Ill address a few issues ive been reading about:

    Friends- Im a shy person and find it hard meeting new people. However, Im really good at being able to notice people who I can get on with and I could be myself around. I made a few friends in my first year then a few more in my second year and now live with two of my friends in halls in my third year. Making friends is hard people.. however when you see other people having a great time, dont think for a second they are happy. Im pretty sure most people who go to uni want to make loaaaads of very cool popular friends and fit into a big circle of friends.. I find this pretty sad tbh. I hate this whole ‘cool’ barrier people got going on ie people who think they are better than others based on their coolness etc. As much as I try not to care about how I look and how cool I may seem and how attractive I may be to others, I still think about it.. however.. then I think to myself.. Fuckthat. just be yourself. dont change for people. dont pretend to make friends with people just for the sake of making new friends. Im very sure all these uber cool people arent as cool as you may think and probably arent having a great a time as you think. We all have problems people, they arent an excpetion. So yeah.. making friends is hard but a little effort goes a long way :) And we are all in same boat; we are all trying to make new friends and socialise with people etc.. you just gotta be confident and separate the fake saddos from the real good guys ; )

    Socialising- Going out is the craze for students at the moment, as im sure we all know. Personally I dont go out that often because I dont feel like I need to haha. I do love going out but not every night of the week. You shouldnt feel like you have to either. Just because you dont go out as much as others doesnt mean a thing. Going out= socialising. No. Going out=the norm. Dont be the norm. Just be you : ) If you like going out, then do it! If you dont, dont! Simples ; ) You dont tend to meet friends on nights out I dont think, unless its some kind of organized hall night out thing..

    Your course- ok so I personally hate my course. The lectures are so damn boring. I am probably the laziest person on this planet, I dont think ive ever done an assignmnet early ie I do them the night before. I have no motivation at alll. Its really bad ; ( I dont know what to suggest about your course as there is not much you can do to change it except.. just sticking with it. I hate uni but im so thankful for the friends ive made: they have kept me sane!

    This whole thing about university life.. what exactly is university life? Is there a set way get through university life? No. You dont have to have loads of friends. You dont have to go out 247 and get drunk. You can do what you want people. Stop thinking about what others are doing and just get on with your own life. If your sat in your room alone with no friends and being angry about it.. are you angry enough to change it? Ie.. are you angry enough to go and make some friends and not be lonely? Speaking from experience, I only have 4 good friends who ive met. 2 are my flat mates and 2 are friends living at home nearby. I wouldn’t change them for a lorry full of ‘cool’, ‘trendy’, ‘party animals’ ; D I like personalities; real ones. Not fake people desperately trying to seem cool all the time. My friends are awsome ; )

    So yeah… Im not sure if what ive wrote has made sense but ive been typing in a stream of consciousness..

    My final thought is this: Tough situations dont last. Tough people do.

    Ba-bye ; )

  1381. some of the things I was really interested in, in high school, are now just way to in depth and i can’t hold my focus on it because it’s so in depth.
    like English, I was great at writing and linguistics was so interesting, now I’m taking 2 English courses and a linguistics course and i could not be more bored with it. and i can’t drop out now because i will have wasted 400$ per course plus books. That is the only thing keeping me in those classes.
    also i have NEVER felt so alone before in my life. no one is attempting to be friendly at all, i don’t really want to make friends but it’s really boring waiting out my spread.
    i hope i make it

  1382. To Salford Uni Student

    Thank you :)

  1383. Thanks everyone who has shared their thoughts here. It really made my miserable month of October and November joyful.

    I shall briefly share my thoughts.
    Coming from a Chinese back ground, both of my parents were brain washed thinking that University = $$$ + fame. You don’t know how many times they rant to me about the importance of University: “later in life, when you meet your current friends, when they have 3 story mansions and multiple cars, what will you have?” They do not rant as much as before because I have been scaring them with suicide (even though I will never kill myself, because I still love life A LOT).

    It also doesnt matter which university you get in. I am currently at University of Saskatchewan getting my B of Commerce. I could have went to what my parents so called “better universities” like Queens, U of T, UBC etc, but I totally ignored the applications and decided to go to the University closest to home, mainly because my sister has just came to Canada, and we have been separated for 8 years. I am sure that my life would be the same if I was at any of those universities.

    In highschool, I was an average student. Once I got into University, I promised myself to give as much as I can.
    “Worst of all there seems to be no correlation between how hard you study & the grades you get. I accept that if you do no work you will fail. But working your ass off can be awarded from anything from A to D grade. It seems a complete lottery to me. I cant wait to leave university.”
    This is my favorite quot from this site. I get an average of 4.5 hours of sleep every day, even on weekends because I have been trying to get as much of the information from my 6 lectures into my head, which does not work at all.

    On top of all this, I have my own life problems that I cannot resolve because of University. My parents have been literally Bitching at me for overweight (20 pounds) for years, and it has gotten worse since university started. If they expect me to get good enough grades in my studies, I see no other solution to use the time I use to study now and go exercise (I love sports with a passion).

    Also because of this “Jail”, I wasnt able to talk to my true best friend for 2 month.

    I can feel my muscle getting lose, my soul and spirit flowing out of me, and I am slowing becoming a hollow body that act nothing more like a machine. How Ironic, I am writing this at my University, 5 minutes before my midterm. I will be getting out of here, and when I do, I will share my wonderful experience with everyone.

    Cheers?!

  1384. An Asian- loved your post! And yes please do share life outside of university! O_0 :)

  1385. i fucking hate university but im afraid if i drop out my girlfirend will dump me and ill be a dissapointment to my family. what should i do. i feel overwhelmed by the workload and depressed should i continuue with this bullshit or drop out and star a new life

  1386. an asian. im at u of s also. we should go for coffee sometime

  1387. Today was torture. In my forced elective, we were tutorial and it is the most loathsome time of the week for me. It is a Woman’s Studies course so I have to deal with a bunch of retards complaining about ‘patriarchy’ and acting as if one day all men joined together and said ‘GUESS WHAT GUYS.. FUCK OUR MOM! LETS OPPRESS WOMEN FOR SHITS AND GIGGLEZ. YEAAAAAAAAAAH!!!111111111!@#!@#” DUMB FUCKS (including you USELESS prof), is it so hard to realize that patriarchy was the solution to a healthy society at that time because it ensured every male got laid? Otherwise it would be a total alpha male war like it is with apes.

    Some TOOL also said how he was ‘SHOCKED’ that in some movie hitler was portrayed as a human and the prof agreed! Hey, DUMB FUCKS! Has it ever occurred to you that throughout human history it has always been a power struggle, and each side uses propaganda against the other. How hitler condemned and associated connotations for ‘jews’ is the exact same as how bushy boy used ‘terrorist’ to push his agenda. How can somebody with a fucking PhD not realize this? I SHIT on this system. And then IIIII am the one who will not get a good mark for not ‘participating.’

  1388. 2nd year at university and all I do is work – literally. I have no social life anymore and what’s worse is having your 21 year old boyfriend whose had two gap years sat half an hour down the road having the time of his life as a fresher. Bitter? Absolutley!

  1389. Unhappy Student

    I’m currently attending university, and it’s ruining my life. Not only I will graduate (if this ever happens) with a worthless degree, but also with thousands of $$$ to reimburse. Of course, if I was perfect in everything, I perhaps would have had the chance to pursue graduate studies and end up with a position into something, but there is nothing guaranteed… not forgetting the fact that I would be more in debt.

    I hate, I hate, I hate this!!! Most of my professors are worthless pricks who don’t give a shit whether their students succeed or not. All they care about is to find the perfect assistant who will make the worst of the job for them, like correcting homeworks, tests, exams, and etc.

    Standards used to test people make me sick. Recalling a tiny bit of information found at page x on chapter x is not something that accurately judge if someone actually learned something. I mean, we are human, not hard drive disc. This is so pathetic!

    Attending university was one of my biggest dreams in life, but it turned to be a nightmare. If you know that you’ll never be able to go through graduate studies, don’t waste your time there because you will ended up just like me: a worthless degree with no option for higher education + high debts. As a result, all you will probably be able to do is to work in a fast-food restaurant or some shit like that. Don’t get me wrong, I found education to be something essential, but no more than feeding myself and pay my rent. Just be very careful and think twice before you go.

  1390. UnHappy Student:

    I feel you (if you read my post). And there are plenty of others out there who feel the same way. Let me tell you this, in your ENTIRE life, this is the only period of time that you need to fight hard. This is the time that you would under go a series of hardship, but you will not regret it, even if it is a worthless degree of whatever. There are opportunities out there. I felt exactly the same way as you, but have decided to continue instead of backing off. Remember, the best way for you to get out of your debt is to complete your degree.

    Please ignore me if you think anything Ive said was useless in anyway.

  1391. OMG I Fucking hate it. I took Web Development. The first year has FUCK ALL to with web development what a piece of shit. Ive got to pay £3250 to do something for the first year which is not web development, cause other people dont know how to use a bloody computer how the fuck they got in I’ll never know

  1392. Cal:

    Before attending University, did you have a goal in life? Even if you JUST realize that Web Development is not what you have imagined it is, I suggest you take a look at another field of studying for your University and go from there.

    Just so you know, you are paying half, or even a quarter of what some people are paying to attend University?

    Please ignore me if you think anything Ive said was useless in anyway.

  1393. Unhappy Student

    @ An Asian

    Thank you so much for replying to me. You are absolutely right. We have to fight to get what we want in life. We never really know the future… we all might be successful. Yes, it’s just a dark period in which we must resist to give up. I’m just glad I had the chance to vent here a little bit. ;-)

    Anyway, thanks for understanding me.

  1394. I HATE UNIVERSITIES. BRING EM DOWN!

  1395. Does anybody else feel like they just don’t give shit anymore? I mean, my first year I tried, got depressed, but I made it through albeit with shitty grades. My second year, I actually enjoyed it for some reason and I managed to raise my average significantly in the process. Now I’m currently in my third year and I feel totally and utterly apathetic. I mean I still put effort into my papers and try and keep up with readings and such, but at the same time I just feel like even if the grade I receive on something is shitty or not to my expectation, it won’t really matter (unless, of course, I fail or something to that extent). A number of people here have already said that there’s really no way to tell whether or not you’ll receive the grade you want because there doesn’t seem to be no real correlation between the effort you put in and the final grading (especially true of essays, in my experience). You might bomb at something you thought you did well at, do great at something you thought you bombed at, do great at something you thought you would do well at, and finally, do shitty on something you thought you would do shitty in (confusing, I know). To those just coming into uni/college, this is is probably one of the most valid observation one could ever make in uni. For example, I just got my paper back which I thought I did fairly well on and I put serious thought into………..68%–fuck me. One of the comments was that it was “tacky”; well Jesus Christ it was a bloody reflection paper–I thought being tacky or sentimental, etc. would be called for. *Sigh. But I digress (If your still reading, congrats on not gouging your eyes out). Anyway, I guess the point I’m trying to make is as long as you try your best, you have nothing to be ashamed of. Be yourself and fuck the system if it’s changing who you are. Take it all in stride and remember to appreciate the little things…or you could just get hammered with your friends on the weekends and bury your worries like the rest of us :)

    Peace & Happiness Kids. Oh, and do remember take care of yourselves.

  1396. Uni has destroyed my personality. I went straight to uni after i finished school, so i have been studying for 15 of my 19 years of life. Ugh. Sickening. I’m studying Psychology, which i thought would be really interesting, but the whole first year was basically just a recap of what i studied in year 12. Which wasn’t too bad coz i got pretty good marks, but now that I’m in second year i have lost all motivation and my marks have dropped to a depressing low. Which really sucks coz i want to transfer to the city but considering my marks for this year its highly unlikely I’ll get in. I have like one close friend, as the uni is tiny and in the middle of the country. My human contact is minimal, i spend way too much time trying to study. I have become such an introvert! Uni is not good for my health.

    Rant over.

  1397. I fucking hate University as well! I am so fuck’n sick of essays I could lose it. Why the fuck do we have to write about shit that is already written about and then reference who the fuck said it to begin with. It makes no fucking sense! I can’t take another essay, yet I have 3 more due in a week! Thanks to the geniuses that keep the essay thing going! Much appreciated

  1398. I’ll start with the conclusion first: university sucks. For me at least. I didn’t even want to be here, I wanted to join the military, but since I ended up with GCSEs and A-levels that was not possible, not even as a private. Since my marks were quite good, I ended up in university, studying BSc Biology in the UK.
    From day one I realised that university is hyped, nothing like what everyone who was supposed to be an expert in the field described it. “Study to get into university”. I don’t appreciate working like hell for so many years for this “privilege”.
    Perhaps its just not for me. I hate this so called “freedom” which just deceives you into doing no work and living in halls and working with all these random people with whom we have no common interests. Its not my university’s fault, actually the lecturers are quite friendly and good at their jobs. Its the damn system. I thought people who love their courses enjoy university, but apparently from what I read here it fucks them up too.
    As for quiting, its not an option, there aren’t any decent jobs to get without a degree (or with a degree, but there’s a greater chance with one), I would be considered a loser by my peers and my family wouldn’t take that lightly. What really pisses me off is that I must be grateful for the opportunity to go to university, and that people keep saying its “cool” and have/had the time of their lives there. How about a big cup of shut the fuck up.
    I won’t quit just to get that damn paper and then have the pleasure of riping it or using it as toilet paper and telling everyone to go to hell. And I ain’t gonna go to graduation either, I don’t like dressing like a clown and I don’t like pretending.
    What’s certain is this: by the end of these three years I will have worked my arse off, paid an awefull amount of money and have had the worst experience of my life. Therefore, fuck university (it can’t be said enough times).

  1399. I hate uni. My course is utterly boring and I have no interest in it whatsoever. The main reason I hate uni is the affect it has on my relationship with my girlfriend.

    Its totally changed her and I wish I could turn back time. Its tearing us both apart, pulling the most important thing in my life out of my grasp forever. FML!

  1400. Gah I’m lucky enough to love my course to bits but uni life really gets me down. I have 25 contact hours a week and need to work at home to stay on top of it but it’s made me lose touch with my fresher friends. People who only do 3-10 hours a week cannot understand this whole studying in the evening thing and I’ve been ditched for not being able to get pissed midweek. I don’t want to get a job since the weekends are my only free time and I’ve been ditched cos I can’t spend on weekends away. I feel like they’ve still got secondary school mentalities and I need more studious people to spend time with, but there’s fewer of them in university than you’d think!

    I hate feeling like this because it’s left me at 24 missing my home city, missing my old friends, missing my family and especially missing my mum! I can’t wait to graduate, head back up north and get in synch with people around me again. It’s really disheartening feeling so on the fringes while other people talk about how they’ve made friends for life there. If this is the best time of my life and it really doesn’t get better, I’d shoot myself today.

  1401. I go to a university in Birmingham and I hate it. The lectures don’t care; I have to fucking book an appointment to talk to one! WTF, it is not organised; they expect you know how to use all computer programs and stuff when they didn’t ask for it on the requirements. When the fucking taught us it was a rush job, I’m fucking paying for this shit!
    By the way I’m doing Architecture at Birmingham City in my first year and I don’t know what to do, I’ve done like 50% of the work so far… it’s not difficult, I feel like I’m teaching myself, but if I leave what will I do work in Tesco?
    Before I came here my social life was top, I was playing high standard football, went on a gap year to Venezuela, I have no problems socialising I just can’t stand this, I feel like I’m in jail!
    It doesn’t help when I have knowledge of the ILLUMANITI AND NWO!
    Also I didn’t fucking come university to have fucking sex! I’m a virgin at 21 and everyone asks you, “you banged anyone yet” WTF? People have no fucking respect, morals or nothing, IM no saint and I don’t want to be, but I feel like university is for sex and dumb idiots.
    I hope something fucking happens in 2012 so University doesn’t exist! I was so open minded before I came here, Now I feel so sluggish, so unhappy, in attempt to stay sain, ive being doing some charity, and that’s been so much more fun and energising compared to going groups.
    This is my personal experience, people say wait ect, but my intuition is telling me to go, do I listen to it or think about what my family, friends, neighbours and all other nosy mother fuckers are gonna say, or sell I do a David icke and fuck the system?!

  1402. I started uni in september and its total bullshit, the work ive already covered in college, the lectures are unbearable, i havent been there for over a week i try and do the work at home as much as i can, dont think i can take 3 years of this shit !!

  1403. Uni is just bull!

  1404. I’ll just say this. Uni is about playing stupid games and catering your papers to appease whatever radical professor you have just to get a passing grade.

    Not to mention the loans I had to take out because my parents “made to much money to qualify for aid”. Does this mean they will help me out? Not even in the slightest you twats.

    So I graduated in September of last year (2009) and have not found a job in my degree or even one that requires one. (B.S In Business) I work at a horrible job where I make less than I did per hour in high school. Not to mention I cannot make my loan payments and they have been deferred for the last eight months.

    /vent

  1405. stressedstudentat5am

    Ergh
    My course is NOTHING like I expected!
    I dont like the people
    i dont like the course
    i hate the workload
    i hate the pressure here
    but i cant swap unis, because it cant get better in terms of rep
    oh lord!

  1406. Fuck University.

    Everybody is the same, everyone is fucking false. I’d rather be on my own being myself than be popular acting like everyone else.

    I just go to lectures, sit on my own, go home, sit in my room and do work or play guitar in my room on my own cause I live with foreigners and I’m English can’t be arsed to try and join the clique. And repeat.

    Feel like I’m in purgatory. The only reason I don’t drop out is because I have no other options.

    If you get a good grade at University doesn’t mean your smart, it means your good at passing exams or doing coursework except this is all employers are interested in. (by the way I got a first in my first year and my second year, now in my third year)

    Fuck University

  1407. just fuck university…. I agree with you Dave, hope something will happen in 2012……… and bomb the university..

  1408. Uni is fun. Not just party fun but study fun. If you don’t find the study enjoyable then you have just chosen the wrong degree. Not a disaster. It is also possible that you are not ready for Uni yet, or Uni is not ready for you.
    Don’t worry about the social side especially in the 1st year. Look at how short the academic year is?
    Enjoy your studies and friends will flock to you.
    Speak up! Ask relevent questions!
    You may be one of the small minority who were a big fish in a small pond and excelled: so do it again. Most 1st year students are the same sharks you have dealt with previously.
    If you are not of that small minority? Then you know that you can swim with the big fish. You may not keep ahead all the time but swim,swim,swim.
    Occasionally you will break water and fly.
    Uni is for YOU and YOUR enjoyment. That is what it is for!
    Enjoy it like the best toffee. Tough at times but sweet as!
    Next step is work and that is pure poot.
    So if the people at uni are wrong for you (that will never change wherever you are, probably) or the course is wrong? Change it or get out. I promise that you will wish you could get back in.
    I wish you luck & if you ever have children don’t force them to education beyond their maturity.

  1409. Hey,

    I’m in my last year of a course that I didn’t enjoy. I suppose I slightly regret doing it. I don’t think I belonged on my course, because I never felt like I was on the same wavelength as other students. The type of students that scare me in university are the opinionated ilk. The ones who go out of their way to express their views on any given topic in lectures to feel smart and bolster their egos. Being in a class full of those people really dented my self-esteem. Before uni, I was very motivated and thought that I was intelligent. But when I entered uni, I felt intimidated by other students. When a lecturer asks me a question in class, I can’t articulate myself properly, because I always fear that I’ll sound stupid. Maybe, I do suck at uni, but I think lecturers could be more encouraging and supportive. A lot of our lecturers leave us to our own devices and if we do something wrong related to class work, we’re blamed. I used to love learning before uni and now I have mild attention deficit disorder in some lectures due to lack of interest. I also regret not studying music in school, because maybe I could have become a musician. I want to play piano and guitar when I finish the course. I haven’t played these instruments for some years, because of the pressures of uni. Music is all I’m interested in. Listening to songs fuel my procrastination. I listen to too much music, because it’s an escape for me. I never go to nightclubs, I never drink or self-medicate (and my classmates ignore me), but when I’m listening to an addictive song, I’m being whisked away into my own dream world. (Sorry to go off on a tangent.)

  1410. venting even as “University is shite” is just the beginning of catharsis and is a good thing.

    Read the 5 stages of grief:
    1. Denial
    2. Anger
    3. Bargaining
    4. Depression
    5. Acceptance

    I might even hazard that those surmising to “suck-it-up” may well be one stage earlier in denial that Universities are not fool-proof – Counselling, Internal complaints procedures & External Investigators e.g. the OIA do exist…

    Stage 3 is where we decide if we change ourselves or our Universities – though the key point is you go through 1 & 2 first…

    So chill, everyone’s at different stages, it’s just an order, there’s no right or wrong – either be supportive of others or ask for their support – easy…

  1411. To be honest with myself, I’ve tried meeting people but I’m really shy, I force myself to speak to people by just opening my mouth and saying words and I can’t really portray any personality that way.

    I just come across as autistic and people say I have no soul which is a bit harsh but that is how I come across. Who want’s to hang out with someone like that? I need to loosen up but its fucking hard.

    When I was saying FUCK UNIVERSITY it was because I can’t hack it at University not University the other way round.

  1412. I absolutely positively hate university. I am a first year, I was soooo excited to get out of high school and meet a whole new batch of people and make tons of new friends. Maybe I would find my new best friend, couldn’t wait to meet my roommates, thought classes would be easy! All I have to do for homework is readings I thought. I was completely wrong.

    I have met tons of new people, but I can certainly not call any of them my new best friend. I haaatehatehate my roommates. They are irritating, annoying, rude, bad tempered, slutty, bipolar, fucking awful disgusting people who I sometimes want to tell them every bad thing about them. But I don’t. And classes? Easy? haha what a joke I have failed basically every single midterm and test I’ve had so far this year. Not to mention 2 overdue essays that still are not even half finished.

    I thought I didn’t want to take a year off, just move out and jump straight into uni, but if I had any advice for people making that consideration DO IT, take a year off!!!!!! Enjoooy your last years of high school and that whole year of not having any worries of school. I consider myself a really nice and social girl, but I haven’t even found any roommates for next year! Like I don’t need to find my best friend to at least be able to find 3 or 4 other girls to live with!! Idk but lately just the thought of university makes me want to cry. Fuuuuck University. :(

  1413. It’s reassuring to know that so many people feel the same way as I do. After 3 years of living off baked beans and 10p sausages I think I’m pretty justified in despising university!

    What really gets me is how disconnected the university mentality is from the real world. I’m in my final year now and am desperately applying for graduate schemes and doing extra curricular stuff to boost my CV, but my oblivious proffessor will happily set me several formative (i.e. counts for nothing!!) essays on top of my dissertation, because of course I have nothing better to do. I find it hard enough to give a shit about a marked essay, let alone a meaningless one.

    I have also found it hard to make friends at uni, but I don’t think this is simply down to me being anti-social. I take part in a lot sporting and social activities in London outside of the college, and have found a wide circle of friends in the city that eclipses my uni relationships, to the extent that uni has become nothing more than an unpleasant sidenote that drains my bank account. But the point is that I only sought out these other activities because uni life seemed so unsatisfying.

    Actually I think ‘unfulfilling’ sums up everything about univeristy so far. My work seems to be pointless. My relationship with my fellow students is shallow and meaningless (especially compared to my real friendships,) and above all, I feel like my personality is draining away when I’m inside the college walls. I know I’m moaning , but I was led to believe uni was going to be so much better than this.

  1414. UNI IS ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT

    From the beggining of my life i have been indoctrinated that uni is the way people become rich and accepted by society and that if you don’t go to uni your life will be a miserable one. Also i get shouts and complaints from parents when i am not working but nothing when i am. Its as if they turn blind when i actually work but as soon as i take a break… WTF U DOING, U SHOULD BE DOING UR WORK..UR A WASTE OF TIME…U R WASTING UR TIME… UR WASTING MY TIME AND UR TIME..DO YOU WANT THAT CAR…DO YOU WANT THAT HOUSE…DO YOU WANT TO BE LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY GET SOMEWHERE IN LIFE… and i sooooo baadly wish i could say SHUT THE FUCK UP. I mean my parents were not born or raised here so they dont know how it works. Man i just wish i could put this all on thier head just to give a taste to them of the REAL WORLD of my world.

    Fuck i dont know what to do… I hate studying i cant stand it for 1 min. Somehow i forced myself to do revision for college and still didnt get a good grade. I guess in the end there is no way out. Especially in these times when there are now jobs going wtf can one do. Either follow the system into society or be rejected for all eternity.

    I feel empty right now, the only thing i have left is my religion and code but even that is now failing me. I dunno, maybe its just me, maybe its just the way things were meant to be.

    Peace

  1415. i’ve always known that i wanted to be a child psychologist– at least, since the age of ten when i realized i couldn’t actually be a spice girl. I applied to about six different schools in Bsc in psychology, and on a whim to a second program. I got in everywhere, and felt heavy pressure to go into the second program (it’s a really tiny program, so to remain anonymous, I’m not going to name it). The second program was really prestigious, and apparently difficult to get into (which I didn’t know when I applied…), and seemed like it was a really good fit with my strengths and interests. I let my ego, and the hubris of my parents, get to me and accepted the second program.
    Now, I’m here, 650 km from home, lonely as ever and not sure I made the right choice. I feel like everyone else is so much smarter, and more devoted to the program and that I’m hanging on by the slightest of threads… and I’ve barely been here one semester!

    I keep hating myself for not going into the program I KNEW I would love…

  1416. Recently I have left university after deciding that the course wasn’t for me. (guess i should’ve done my homework beforehand)
    Right now i dont think i’ve ever been happier, literally living life how life should be lived. I keep reading comments like ‘suck it up’, ‘you’re a waste of human flesh’ & ‘your life will be over if you leave uni’, it is these comments which are causing me to react. Now, these comments are coming from the perspective of a person who has had a real hard life, a poor life, a life not worth living. Or from the perspective of how the system operates in the society we now live in. I believe that the people who criticize the induvidual for disliking university are.. err.. kind of sad. how can you commend yourself on your deathbed for having not lived life to its fullest? JUST FOR THE SAKE OF SOCIETY?!? fuck that tbh. Life is too short, life is only granted once for each of us, we can’t waste it. Yeah sure ‘it’s only three years of study’ THREE YEARS?!?! if you hate university right now, dont grind it out for the sake of being respected in society because it’s literally costing you three years of your own actual life. Nobody else gives a flying fuck about you, they give opinions based on what they believe is right, but they’re not the ones living your own actual life.
    My point is, life isn’t all doom and gloom outside university, life is literally what you make of it. at university i felt like a prisioner serving his youthful commitments to then be accepted to the world, pathetic. I made friends at university, and actually enjoyed some aspects of it. What annoyed me and frustrated me most is the way it works, the function that each student is encouraged to follow. -get up at 11am, eat cheap shit, drag yourself to lectures to learn theoretical examples of pointless historical shit, have a pint with a person who friendship to you is relatively meaningless, go back to the halls for some more cheap shit, attend a typical pre lash and drink the acoholic substance which people reffer to as the based means to where all definitions of ‘fun’ arise, then fail to get into a nightclub due to lack of bodily control, fall on your face leaving scars, then wake up to do it all over again- <<<< and that's a good typical uni day, some consist of studying books written by people who have tiny dicks, and essays of which nobody cares for its content or existence. (except you technically speaking)
    i didn't enjoy this lifestyle or my course, i dont necessary think university is a shit hole or anything, i just believe that there are better things to do in life. If you strip away the political system and strip away peoples morals, what we have left are humans who have there own mind, shame it's been manipulated by politicians. why do people live life, seriously why? To enjoy it maybe? If uni isn't fun for you and the piece of paper known as a 'degree' isn't that important to you, then seriously get the fuck out of university and live your life how you want to live it.
    I plan to return to university or go to drama school in a couple of years, simply because i want to be a performer, i want to enchance my skills as a performer and as a person. my previous course didn't give a flying fuck about these aspects of the induvidual, so i left. XD
    So my advice to anyone is to be sure that the degree is worth spending three years of your life for and to never give a second thought for other peoples opinions in this obsessed dog eat dog money making naive society which we currently live in. we're just intelligent mammals i guess, that's all.. so sure read books and write about dead people, but remember you have a choice.

  1417. P.S.

    My talent isn’t spelling, for those who want to inform me of my spelling errors, go ahead, but i’m already aware of it. it’s the content of my previous post which is important. :)

  1418. I’ve been in uni for 2 months in the UK and I feel so shit in this environment. I am an international student and have to pay 10x the fee of UK students, the fees are sucking my parents dry! Furthermore, i put all my effort into getting an OK grade for my IB diploma to go to UNI and i feel like all my effort has been wasted because I’m not enjoying myself at all! I have no mood to study because I feel like shit, the location of the uni is so dead its in the country side and everything closes so fucking early. I came from a city where everything closes at 11 at night and now everything closes at 5! I feel like my life is going to a waste, i dont give a shit about the modules i’m studying currently, I don’t relate to anyone here, and I have to be here for another 3-4 years!!!!!!

  1419. This is my third year. 2 more to go because I was indecisive about a major, and took random classes. No courses are interesting, except art, which I’m no good at. I used to feel intelligent, intellectually curious, and full of potential. Now I feel beaten down, and dragged through the mud.
    Three years without making a single friend. I doubt you could spend three years in prison without making a friend. I know it’s my fault, my responsibility to seek out people and socialize. There are a few people that interest me, but why would they want to hang out with a dullard like me?
    I understand that I’m a lazy, depressed, loser. I wish I could change who I am, but I don’t think I can. I need to drop out and get a job. I figure I’ll still be miserable, but at least I will be making money rather than going into debt for the privilege.

  1420. Guys, don’t get weird! Uni isn’t everything you’ve got in your life!
    If you don’t like it, just admit it. Believe me, it helps.

  1421. Hey everyone :)
    It’s been 4 months since my post and i’ve been back at uni for 3 months and guess what? I’m actually liking it this year :) I passed my exam that I had to re-take and I couldn’t have been happier! :D The work this year is much more interesting and yes it can get difficult but i’m now more prepared for the challenges uni brings. I just wanted to share this with others on this blog, not to rub it in their face that I like uni but to give them hope. Especially if their in their first year, my advice would be hang in there! Seriously, don’t let it get you down like I did. But if your still not likin uni after a while then that’s fine too! Maybe your course isn’t right for you or maybe uni istelf isn’t and that’s okay. It really isn’t for everyone, don’t ever think less of yourself if you quit. Just be sure you’ve give it your all before you do. I don’t mean to preach but I know people here feel the same way I used to and I want to help them get over the obsticles they are facing with university. Good luck to everyone anyway as I doubt i’ll ever come back here. Carrying on with uni was the best decision I made and i’m now enjoying my course and have become closer to my friends from last year :-) it’s all about having a positive attitude and if you put the work in everything will be fine :-) xxx

  1422. I just started university and i know i hate it…..its been like a month and i am already thinking about leaving it and my course so damn long…..i will be an old motherfucker by the end of it……I HATE IT HERE…..i am so glad i am not the only one…..i mean son of a bitch 7 hours of lectures today……i skipped the first three……FUCK YOU UNIVERSITY I HOPE YOU DIE AND FUCK THE SYSTEM!!!

  1423. The Bitter Cup

    OK, looks like life’s gonna keep getting worse from here on. I can handle the shitty food (too poor for the good stuff), the bills that are way too high, the strict money-saving crap (haven’t really bought clothes in a year…), all the work I need to get done… but it’s tiring, really tiring to be alone most of the time. I was hoping to make more than two ”friends”, but nearly everyone just hangs around on goddamn Facebook and they occasionally go out drinking together. It’s starting to seem like they don’t want to know me anymore because I didn’t fit in at the very beginning and thus have spent no drunk-time with them. Guess I’ll stay alone for five more years or so. Heh. FML.

  1424. I like my university and course very much.
    Its just the people I hate with a passion. Bunch of self centered twats…

  1425. I quit my first course because the lecturers didn’t have a clue – it was too opinion based. Now I’m on a more science-based course, but I’d really be better off going on welfare and learning from public libraries at my own pace…I feel like I’m just doing whatever’s asked of me without feeling any enjoyment for it.

    This then makes me think that’s what a job is about, too. Almost any job in the world involves you doing something that someone else has told you to do, even politicians and people “of power”.

    Our system is so flawed. We have access to all the resources in the world to house and feed everybody on the planet, yet we don’t because people like to have someone to look down on.

    This applies to people thinking a “BSc” at the end of their name will make others respect them. Let’s face it, a BSc doesn’t mean SHIT anymore. They are so easy to get, their novelty has been removed.

    Why don’t we all move to Jamaica and smoke on the beach every day…I’d be happy enough. Such a fucking drone-like boring life we lead in the Western World, take a look at the Pacific Islanders…they love life. As do the tribes of the Amazon. I want to die. I want someone to come and kill me, so the guilt is on them and not me, for then my family would never blame me or themselves.

    There is no point existing if you don’t enjoy it.

  1426. After years of hard work and dreaming about coming to Uni- I am finally in my first year! However, I have just one tiny, but majorly depressing problem= I. hate.it. FULL STOP.

    So depressed, sad and lonely. Have no friends, no money= shit.
    I’ve also gained about 80 friggin pounds to my already fat stomach due to sheer BOREDOM. I know Facebook like the back of my hand, and I’m paying £121 pw for my box-sized – couldn’t swing-a-cat-in-it room.

    The course is Ok; I recently got a A- for an exam… I was happy with it and it did give me a bit more motivation, but it was very very temporary.
    My parents don’t want me to leave and tbh I dislike the idea of leaving. I come from a very very small part of the country and as soon as a new job crops up everybody jumps on it like pissing ‘hot-cakes’; no lie.
    Also, there are people who have left Uni agessss ago ( like 2 years) and have to put up with SHIT jobs such as waitressing or working in a bar because they can’t even get a job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After years and years of studying !!!! WHAT A PILE OF BLOODY SH.HIT ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cannot wait for that !!! My life is amazing at the moment= stuck here for another 2 and a half years !!!!

    - Soul killing
    -Kills creativity
    -Numbing
    - personality draining
    -money draining
    - makes you look like a tramp because you can’t afford any new clothes ( and before uni- I loved clothes and fashion, nowadays all I have to do is look at a shop window and I hear pennies dropping and notes fluttering past my ear as the greedy economy makes me pay something like £50 for 2 pairs of SOCKS! Jesus crept and Moses Wept!!! What’s that all about ???

    However, I am going to stay here, at uni, where I shall become an excessive introvert and then after it’s over I shall slowly creep back out of my shell and peep to see if the dark cloud hovering over my penniless existence has disappeared into the depths of hell itself. Hopefully then I shall thank myself for putting myself through so much pain and torture! An maybe then I can be truly happy.

  1427. Uni has made me such a boring person. I am not ungrateful, as I realise so many people will never get the chance to go to Uni, but the previous, fun loving me has vanished. Now I am a boring miser, living at home with my parents ( with whom I have a really awkard relationship anyway, particular my dad). I spend all my time worrying about assessments, which hinders my studying as I spend more time worrying than concentrating or actually working. The friends I do have at Uni are more of a conveinence. Im so glad you guys have had similar experiences and I’m not alone. I’m sure in say, 10 years time my life will hopefully have improved substantially and I wil be a much less miserable person. But until then I see a bad moon rising, I see trouble on the way. Good luck to everyone here in findings happiness xxxxx

  1428. I feel exactly the same Ken, Good Luck to you too Ken :-) Xxxxxx

  1429. LIKE I GUY SAID BEFORE, UNIVERSITY IS NOT ALL ITS CRACKED UP TO BE.. its a fucking hell if your the youngest amungst 25-30 year olds, hard to make friends aswell because there so fucking old.

    i wanna drop out but coming from an asian background, you gotta make your parents happy no matter what.. its the asian way =’(

  1430. haha i love people’s comments.

    Uni does suck for some people, it’s all a bit of a lottery and depends entirely on what their life was like before they even came.

    Sure there is much worse suffering out there, but no one can be blamed for feeling depressed and lonely if they can’t find the right people for them or if their course isn’t anything they thought it would be, DESPITE going to open days thank you very much!

    That Sprat guy is a fucking dickhead. He boasts about his intelligence and yet comes across as the thickest person on this forum. It’s not about having the best grammar and spelling, especially in a casual forum such as this, it’s your thoughts and beliefs that can be used to determine your intellect and well, his was incredible narrow minded and frankly insensitive. Also he was insistent on telling people how much their lives sucked which probably suggests his life ain’t great either, that and his constant contrary comments on this site dedicated to hating university.

    Anyway, I’m in my third year now and I’ve never liked university but I’ve come to accept it. The teaching is mostly quite poor but that’s just the way it is. Instead I just try and use the time I have here to develop other skills and hobbies.

    The loneliness is a killer though, ain’t going to lie about that.

    Sighs

  1431. Im only here if im a bit down, or if things havent generally gone my way. And ive only seen that since ive come on here being in really good, yet curious mood, just to check whats going on and to see what people are saying these days (thought they would be a massive outburst with tutition fee’s going up ect). This is a brilliant site just to blow of steam. Even people just arguing with each other on here saves them blowing up in someone elses face. Keep it up. And to be honest we all learn from our mistakes. Everyone makes them, you… your mum …. your dad… your lectures.. everyone. We wouldnt be where we are if it wasnt for our mistakes.. and more importantly, learning from them. Chin up, we’ve all got something to put in the pot and our very backgrounds make us unique and speical in our own field. If its possible forget people who you dont like, play it cool and find some people you do like (not everyones a pisshead fresher which is obvious from this site)… oh and if possible next time your down.. write.. find new music.. new film.. if your skint download it. Find a new identity.. reinvent yourself. Have fun… worry about life when you’ve got your morgage and kids to sort out. Try your best, learn from your mistakes and have fun :)

    Stevie x

  1432. I like University life. I stayed close to my home so I have loads of friends from my home town. I guess I got a little complacent in regards of meeting friends but I have a nice little select group. No it’s not the huge party WHEYWHEYWHEY OI OI OI CHUG CHUG CHUG SUCK SUCK SUCK atmosphere but now I’m here I doubt I’d want that. I’m content.

    However, University accommodation is another fucking story. I ridiculously decided to go for the most expensive accommodation, I look at the money going out every 3 months and cry because I could have stayed at home and spent that on awesome stuff. Staying at home second year and University life will actually be quite perfect!

  1433. Anyone else think this site needs to expand/upgrade? Seriously, this site has so much potential outside of just being a rant board, especially when it’s obvious that people flock to it regularly. But whatever, it’d be still cool if it stayed the way it is right now.

  1434. Just like everyone else here I hate University as well. I find it a wast of my time and I try so hard yet end up getting a garbage grade in the end. Ever since I was young I was told by my family to go to University and NONE of them have ever been to University, I myself wanted to go to College because I believed that it was more suited for me but not according to my family. Now I am in University and hate every aspect of it! It just gives me so much stress and what bugs me the most is people think your a idiot if you dropout. Fuck University and the boring ass lectures thats I have no interest in, also like to add that half the shit we learn in University we will probably never use in our life! Lastly, I know many people who have gone to University and are now working a job that is completely irrelevant to what they studied. Fuck off University!

    Common <3

  1435. I hate uni tooo…like all you other poor girls and boys.
    i feel utterly shit all the time. I hate my course and although im a confident person and have many friends ive nto made any at uni.
    Third year. seems a waste to leave now but i jsut cant take much more.
    I want to be happy and i know this course will never make me. x

  1436. First year of Architecture course, currently about 2 months into the year, I started realising how much I hated Uni from the first month.

    I do not particularly enjoy the course, and I hate the system of teaching.

    Architecture is a 7 year course, 5 years of study + 2 years of work.

    2 days per week we have to be at University from 9am to 9pm. Thats 12hours straight.

    The poeple are fine, I’ve made friends, I’m not un-sociable or un-confident.

    I really struggle to motivate myself to work because I simply dont enjoy Architecture like i thought i would. I’ve been getting shit grades as a result and my parents want me to atleast give it more time before I drop out, They’re basically forcing me to go for the time being.

    I fucking hate the way I am taught, i have less freedom here than i did at college, constant e-mails, 12 hour supervised working hours, constant nagging and constant scrutiny from lecturers. I feel like i cant breathe in that place.

    I wouldn’t mind if i enjoyed my work but its shit. I dont enjoy education. I forced myself to study during college and got average grades. I thought I’d like Architecture, and I agree that IF I could stick it out I’d be in a great position. But 7 years of this? It isn’t worth it, and who’s to say I’ll enjoy Architecture even after I graduate? At this rate I will not enjoy it. So why bother put 7 LONG years into it?

    These past 2 months literally feel like years. I start the new term on tuesday and i just cringe at the thought of it.

    On a side note I can see how University indoctrinates and institutionalises. They say Uni doesnt spoon feed you like college/school, but they do. I’m kept in Uni for 12 hours, constantly being watched. I had 10x more freedom in college/school. They tell you exactly what to do and how fast to do it and they strip you of your creativity and motivation. they take away your happiness and they make you into a drone. and they give you so much to do that you literally have to time to think about anything else.

    You have NO TIME to think about your life. You have NO TIME to socialise outside of uni. you have NO TIME to be yourself anymore. NO TIME.

    Atleast, this is how the more advanced degree course works, such as Architecture. The less intense courses are even worse because they just scam you. Literally financially rape you and leave you. I may have an Architecture degree in 7 years time but they’ll have taken away who I am today and I fucking know it.

    I dunno’. I’ll think of something.

    Sorry for any spelling errors, can’t be fucked to proof read atm.

  1437. Well, looks like I’m not going back to Glasgow University in January. They were trying to get funding to employ me for another six months: as I’ve just found my P45 by the front door, I assume they haven’t been successful. No leaving do, no card, no collection, not even a goodbye – I doubt I’ll ever hear anything from them again.

    I wondered if it would be different being an AV rather than a student. It isn’t. You get treated like dirt by all the moronic admin staff, the foreign students don’t understand a damn thing, and I become invisible and silent in the presence of the academic gods. Just like Oxford, in fact.

    I think one of the problems is that an AV doesn’t actually bring in money to the department in the same way that an overseas masters student does (the place would fold in a week without them). Maybe I’d have been treated better if I had a PhD – who knows ? (Although, job interview apart, I don’t recall ever being asked about my qualifications).

  1438. Whoah, this post/blog w.e it is is awesome, i have bookmarked it to read and contribute to it later, (ofcourse because now i have studying to do)! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRG! ..anyway, This represents my whole life, ive had a battle with ‘the system’ and society and the most stupid educaiton system known to humanity, i mean i willing to bet that when plato was teaching his students, the level of education would have been far more superior, and honestly i know people with phds who are stupid but just good at acedemic nonsense, it honestly makes me sick.. and also..

    I saw a question that said something like, is there another way than university etc..?! and when i come back to read this blog i hope i find the answer, because i know that if i complete univeristy I will be stuck in the RAT RACE and the system will have my balls in a gold plated vice and sqeezing ever so nicely everytime it feels that my thought process is diverting away from anything other than the thoughts of, meritocracy, i must be the best, i must win, i must succeed, mmm mcdonalds, sleep, drink, drugs to delude myself from bull of reality, then more food, sleep, waking, studying, working 9-5, getting shouted at, promotions, stress, heart desease…………. .. DO YOU SEE WHAT I SEE?!

  1439. Throughout our whole lives we a re dictated a route that we must take in order to be socially accepted. GCSE’s, A-Levels, Degree. Then what? ‘Oh i have a degree, I am more intelligent then the next person’. How can this be?

    Take my experience as an example. I am currently at University. We are told from the beginning what books to buy (mostly, if not all, written by the lectures themselves). I go lectures, which are, in my view, as waste of time. For example, for one of my modules my whole lecture slides for the entire semester were extracted from her book. Seminars. They are meant as tool to assess whether you know the material and solve and issues you may have. When asking a question on material that causes confusion, the usual response is, ‘what do you think’? Really?????? lecturers. Could not give a flying-fuck. I feel that they are only there for research purposes. I mean, why pay them when they for the expertise only to then pass on your assignments to PHD students who, at some points, have not got a clue. And on top of this, you are told that you are a failure if you don’t meet the standard requirements. With no help, and this pressure, it’s no wonder so many people get depressed and want to leave. Now, imagine going into an exam. it’s three hours long. Most of the time, you are not aware if what you are writing is correct, as you may have mis-understood something. I mean, just because you freeze up in an exam, and need time to relax, you lose time. This leads to not finishing the whole paper and not getting the mark you deserved. If you get a bad mark, due to the fact that you ‘froze up’ during an exam does this mean you lack intelligence???? Also, the way lecturers mark is with the utmost discretion. I remember one of my lecturers saying, just before our summer exams, that he wanted good scripts as he would rather be out in the sun than mark papers. Is this not what they are paid to do?

    For me College were the best years of my life. Teachers were approachable, and help was always there.

    I know some may come here and that University is not about ‘spoon feeding’ which is far enough. But, answer me this. University essays (or any essay for that matter), requires critical thinking. How can you be critical if you cannot understand something? When i asked for help, i was deemed an idiot.

    The messages that lecturers leave to students promotes low self-esteem. It makes you feel like you are not worthy of anything. Leading ultimately to depression.

    The students are also dicks. 90% of conversations consists of how fucked someone got, or who they slept with etc, etc. Not to mention back stabbing. Example: helping this girl in my seminar group with a topic that i understood, led her telling me – when i needed help – that it was not here problem and should go ask someone else.

    Well, Im in my 3rd year. really felt like quitting, but am going to complete it for my self – what ever the result. I hope you guys can do the same. But, remember this. It is NEVER to late to change your course of life. You can always go to University later – be it through Open University; which are, year on year, becoming more respectable.

    At the end of the day, you can only do your best, Your marks are nothing but a number and can always be changed. Many successful people have dropped at many obstacles. But what makes them successful is that they did not give up. There are ALWAYS opportunities to change things around.

    I wish everyone the best of luck. And, please do NOT pay any attention to people leaving negative comments. It feeds their egos. Why give them the satisfaction. Sorry for the essay!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

  1440. Next week I’m going back to start the second half of my 3rd and final year of my degree, and I’m not looking forward to it at all.

    I regretted going to uni from day 1 if I’m honest. I had the most gorgeous girlfriend, a decent enough job at the time, and no worries whatsoever.

    I didn’t like the flatmates I’d been stuck with which made things much more difficult, as I’d already found that I’d got the wrong impression of my course.

    After 2 months of uni, my girlfriend decided it was time to split because the distance was causing too much trouble. The only GOOD friend I’d made there decided he was going to drop out before christmas so I was surrounded by people I didn’t really click with at all.

    I’m now in my 3rd year and I’ve submitted two poor pieces of coursework which if I get a bit of luck will fetch mid-to-high 50′s.
    I’m taking a collaborative module which ends in march and I’ve no idea what I’m doing.
    I’m supposed to work with an outside agency to create a piece of work, which other people began in October/November but my idea didn’t take off with anyone and my tutor thought it would be too difficult to pursue.
    I was really enthusiastic about it but I lost all confidence as it was my last hope for that module which I was at that point way behind already.

    I’m enthusiastic about my dissertation but I don’t know whether to just throw in the towel or maybe come back another year. Obviously the fees might mean I won’t get to complete it and I’ve already wasted enough money.
    I also don’t know whether if I defer for another year now I will lose my honours?

    It’s difficult because I don’t feel I can talk to my parents about it and I don’t really have that great a relationship with any of my tutors.
    Uni has been the biggest disappointment in my life and it’s left me severely depressed. I have no interest in pursuing the subject I take.
    I can’t help but feel robbed.

  1441. All your universities are situated in beatiful countries like UK and US. I’d be so much happy to study there! But I’m stuck in Ukraine. This myriad of unnecessary subjects I’m forced to study (cause in Ukraine you can’t choose subjects) just doesn’t give a possibility to concentrate on the main ones. And eventually any European contry will not recognize my diploma. So, I’m trying to escape from this motherfucking Ukraine. Even if i don’t enter the university abroad, I’m ready to do anything, even clean the monuments, just not to be here anymore, just to be abroad. Anywhere. So, all you just don’t understand how lucky you are, cause Ukraine is the hell on the Earth.

  1442. What’s more, and my final post for today, I promise! is that I express deep sympathy for Simon and if you’re listening mate, i really hope you stick with it, like Alex said if your read further up from your comment..

    “But what makes them successful is that they did not give up”**

    And I think he is right, So Simon, Don’t Give Up man! and from an objective view, you’re in your final year of University! you could even say your are lucky to have past the first two!

    SO, for the world, for ‘SynthMonster’ in Ukraine ..lol, for your parents, family, your future, financial security and for your soul

    (so you can say, I DID IT!, even in the face of Adversity!) muhahah!

    and say to the world FU** YOU! IM GOING TO GET A REALLY GOOD JOB =) ,.. you should stick with it I think! So good luck man, and also to everyone here stuck in the shit-hole that is.. UNIVERSITY***

    ,ALL THE BEST & DON’T GIVE UP! Because even though we hate this muthafucker, Sometimes we have to do what we hate doing, And more importantly, In life, if something like a Degree is Worth having then its going to be HARD to GET IT.

    Peace, George.

  1443. First of all, I can’t believe this has been going since 2004. I started reading alot of the early posts and then zoomed to the end, and I can’t believe how many people are sharing the same feelings and experiences.

    I am in the same boat as many here. I started my first year of uni in September doing Law. I loved my high school and college days, and really enjoyed studying Law at college.

    However, when I got to uni, all that changed. I’m not going to be dramatic like some people here, with “oh, it’s draining my soul”, but it really is not what I wanted nor expected.

    Of course I was prepared for it to be different from school/college life, but the talk of university being “the best times of your life” is really not true (atleast not for me – obviously for some it is).

    I’m aware that uni is what you make of it, and believe me, the first weeks I tried to get involved, become motivated, and enjoy what university offers. My first mistake was the fact I didn’t move out, I stayed at home. The first day I walked into my lecture, everyone was sat with people who they knew – or possibly met through staying in the same halls etc.

    Prior to university, I had some great friends, who I have lost contact with due to them moving away and stuff. And I always aspired to achieve great grades in order to get somewhere in life.

    But the very place i worked hard to get to, is a complete letdown to me. I really cannot motivate myself to travel each and everyday to a lecture that I now have no interest in.

    My mind was made up about leaving about three weeks into university, I could immediately tell it was not for me. I found the whole system too archaic, traditional and the lecturers so arrogant and egotistical (one of them even trying to make you go out and buy THEIR book). As someone said on this site a few years back – they felt that they may not have been ‘clever’ enough once they got to university, but looking around me in my lectures, I too wonder how some of the people actually managed to get there.

    Though i’ve stuck with it for the first semester (barely, seeing as i hardly go to lectures and have probably only been to one seminar as I just don’t see the point in going when i have no interest in the subject anymore and it is not what i want to pursue for a career) due how ‘disappointed’ my family and everyone will be if i were to leave. What makes it worse is that my brother went to university before me, he depicted it as amazing and ‘the best time of your life’ which is making my parents wonder why I couldn’t possible enjoy it. They arn’t the ones that have to sit and listen to some arrogant ‘professor’ who is just reading off a powerpoint presentation. If all it takes to be a lecturer is to stand infront of a group of people and read from a computer screen, then I could easily just do that myself.

    But actually, after reading most of the comments here, I’m saying sod it, and i’m going to leave. How can i endure 3 years when i cannot even stomach 3 weeks? Christmas break is now over, and to be honest, it’s been the best time ever. Not worrying about a thing, and not thinking about university at all. This is what has made me realise that I am better off not going to university. Sure with a degree I could (maybe) land myself a decent job, but i know that I am intelligent enough without having to get a degree, surely all my hard work through school and college that got me straight A’s can be put to use for something.

    To be honest, I have no idea what i’m rambling on about, as its now 3am, but now my mind is made up, I will drop out and no longer be stressed out by university.

  1444. It’s been a long time since I’ve posted on here, but I thought I would check in. I finished with University last year and got my degree (a 2:1 in Journalism and Media). I took all your advice and really applied myself to getting my degree, but I still feel empty from the entire experience of University. I haven’t managed to get a job yet due to the economy, and have been applying to more than 30 a week across a variety of locations.

    I could’ve tried to get a Masters degree, but they cost a ridiculous amount and you get no help from anyone for those. Moreover, there aren’t a great deal of jobs that demand it in my sector and other firms might’ve thought I would be too over-qualified. It’s infuriating though to be honest, as I know there are weak people out there that aren’t afraid to get into debt to do a Masters yet I really believe I am up to it but can’t do it for petty financial reasons.

    The job situation is really horrendous here in the south east and it doesn’t help when firms say I’m “over-qualified”. I shouldn’t have to lie on my CV to demean my achievements in order to get a job so I’m not going to. I begrudgingly had to sign on for jobseeker’s allowance six months after Uni, and I have to say it is one of the most demoralising things I’ve ever experienced. It isn’t effecting me trying for jobs (I have had about 5 interviews in the past few months), but it’s obviously affecting my social life and confidence.

    I can’t afford to go out and I hardly made any friends from Uni because it was the worst experience of my life. I met some people who I thought would be life-long friends, but they turned out to be the two-dimensional mugs I always assumed they were. Furthermore, the girl I liked didn’t like me in return (despite some seriously flirtatious behaviour and messages to the contrary – so I assume she had a better offer).

    Having met them all again and being forced to sit next the girl whom I admired for all my Uni years when I graduated a few months ago, I have to say how much better I felt as the superior being there. I may not have a job or anything fancy to my name, but I have morals and the desire to get stuff done. Looking back on it now, these people were the cancer that was killing me. I was so glad all this Uni bullshit was over, even if I didn’t have a job.

    So why am I posting this? To let you know that regardless of whether you’re having a good time at Uni or you don’t like the people there, things will get infinitely better after you’re done. Even if you don’t get a job, the relief you will feel to be out of the system will keep you believing you can succeed in life. I would recommend to be careful with your money whilst at Uni and never go out. It doesn’t get you very far and everyone else are arseholes. The women are mostly cancerous vermin and the dudes are idiots that just like drinking and sex.

    I wanted to go to Uni to meet deep and intelligent actual people, but all I got was a cold, reawakening to the system. The usual array of “popular kids” dominated my Uni and basically ruined everything about the place. If I’m ever unlucky enough to have kids, I will never let them go to these hellholes. Maybe it’s not just Uni that’s screwed, it could be society in general. I haven’t met a woman on my wavelength and actually a part of the living for around a year now. Maybe I’m actually in a real-life zombie film but no one knows about it. Regardless, all I do know is that I’m happier to be alone with my thoughts outside the system and away from the wrongfully-judgemental eyes of my peers. I enjoy trolling them on Facebook and Twitter to get back at what they’ve done to me though, so maybe I’m just as bad as them.

  1445. The first time I went to uni I might have agreed with you.

    Then I dropped out and went to work, to try to become a millionaire like people who avoid uni supposedly do. HA. All those anecdotes.

    Now I’m running back to university with my arms open. Maybe because I don’t expect it to provide any socialising – that would suck if I lived on campus or had to move away for uni but I’ll just be getting a train from home and keep up with my regular friends. And I don’t expect the lecturers or students to be anything more than pedestrian twats, but at least I won’t be forced to go to corporate lunches with them and pretend to laugh at their drunken offensive jokes or have to wear the same twatty clothes as them. I’m sure the coursework is uninspired drudgery, but nothing could be worse than what I’ve done for money before.

    Heck, I’m doing a double degree just to hide away in there for 7 years. Can’t. Fucking. Wait.

  1446. I have just come back from the Christmas break and have become even more depressed than before the break! It gives me some comfort to find people like myself who have the same problems and I don’t think I can carry on any longer.
    When I hear about people who stick it out and get a degree I always force myself to see that as the best option, but then I fall into a depressive state again. Its like I have mood swings where one moment I feel alright about uni but the next feel totally sick. I’ve never before struggled with emotions and try not to take things to seriously but I do seriously do worry about my health. I have a poor diet, feel very lonely and cannot seem to motivate myself because of all the distractions.

    Sometimes I think its because i moved away from home and if I commute next year it would be better is this the case???

  1447. Mike, I felt exactly the same as you do. What year are you in? I was most like this during my first year and more than halfway into my second. After that I had a new housemate move in and thankfully he was a genuine dude that I had a bit in common with but I appreciate most of you folks won’t get that lucky.

    I also moved away from home, from Canterbury all the way to Coventry. If you’re not doing so already, I recommend taking breaks home whenever you can (that’s not detrimental to your studies) as that can obviously really help.

    Regarding the poor diet, it shouldn’t be a massive problem but make sure you eat enough to feel comfortable. I used to live in a catered halls and you would not believe how uplifting it was to be able to wake up and get a full english or whatever. I know you probably don’t have that luxury either, but if you ensure you eat at regular meal times and don’t go overboard it should be good. You could have treats like a muffin (a four pack is normally about £1 in Sainsbury’s) every other day or whatever too. Most people eat a bit weirdly at uni, so don’t panic. Find something you like that complements your lifestyle.

    Commuting can be massively expensive depending on where you’re going from and to. Look into that side of it before making any rash decisions. Uni may be shit, but at least you don’t have to deal with our rubbish transport system any more than you have to.

    To be honest I really recommend getting a TV and a games console if you haven’t already. There’s so much media about at the moment that can absorb your time without degrading your brain, so give some stuff a go. Box sets can especially be rewarding, like Lost and season 1 of Heroes (the rest is shit). I know it isn’t a solution to your problem, but stuff like this is really great for cheering people up. If you don’t have a TV, you can watch live channels legally (if you have a TV license) on tvcatchup.com and services like iPlayer have legitimate films and such now too.

    Failing all this, you could do mini-trips and breaks about the place to keep your mind at bay. This may sound sad, but there is really a lot of interesting stuff about in museums, galleries, etc. that might take some time out of the day. I know most people say go to clubs and societies, but a lot of unis I know have shit ones and the people there can be a bit too “cliquey” and/or “pro-uni”. Also try to go out once a day. It would take me half an hour to walk from my uni place to town, but that’s half an hour I wasn’t cooped up inside. Look about your uni place and see what you need. Even if it’s something stupid like a desklamp, go out and get one. If you want to eat out, don’t be afraid to go alone. Make lists of things to see and do and integrate that into your studies if you can too.

    Other things to try include forums, free online PC games (like Quake Live, Might and Magic Heroes and flash games), social media sites, following news sites and the biggest time-sync of all: Youtube. There is so much music about either on there or across the web that can also uplift you.

    I’ll be back if I think of some more, but in general I recommend just improving your lifestyle to make you as comfortable as possible doing what you want to do. There’s so much stuff out there to take your mind off that uni shithole so don’t be afraid to use it. I know I sound like a lot of the other people on here that are pro-uni, but I lived through that cancerous stage of my life and I can assure you that it’s worth plugging away on even though I haven’t got a job yet. Getting a degree is really essential in this economy and you are fortunate enough to be able to get one before the massive price hike. You can do this, and you must do this.

  1448. Oh yeah I forgot the most important suggestion – books. They may be rather old-hat nowadays but there is so much stuff out there to read. I’m not saying become a bookworm or whatever, but it’s quite nice to keep a casual book on hand to be able to mix your activities and keep you active. There’s something out there for everyone and you can use them to learn or just for fun.

    I also want to add 4OD and ITVPlayer to the mix too. 4OD has a massive back-catalogue of some delightful shows like Father Ted, Green Wing and Black Books. We’re talking entire series’ for free online completely legit. If you like old TV there’s also another site called SeeSaw that has quite a few free and paid-for shows.

    I know TV and the media isn’t the answer to your problem, but just having something to do helped me get through it. That might not be what you’re in to, but there’s lots of things out there to keep you occupied. There’s free web-comics, podcasts, radio and communities out there that are looking for folk too.

    Keeping in touch with those you know is massively important and won’t make you feel as isolated too. Have specific nights to call home so you and your family both have something to look forward to (well if you like the folks at home).

    Sleep is also incredibly important. Keep to a regular pattern (it doesn’t have to be strictly 11-8 or whatever, but obviously that’s encouraged for general wellbeing) that feels comfortable for you then try to build on that if you want to. I found that I didn’t have as much to do in the mornings but everyone’s different so it’s really just important to look at the advice here and see if it works for you. We don’t know who you are or what you like doing, but we feel like we owe it to others like us as we had help from this site and other places when we were stuck in the system. Good luck with your degree and please keep at it.

  1449. “note spelling will be bad” :) ..
    hey guys, just came to say hello :p . May I say Good for you Ash!
    . If its not right for you its not right! simple as. Besides the realty is, so man people will have a degree that it will become worthless that’s why the tories at present are trying to makr sure the peasants cant get their hands on one! haha. More importantly, whoah,.. “the real one”, you have blown me away.. its so simply.. why didnt i see it before?! 15k per student.. Genius!.. they’re robbing us blind. touche to them for their relentless greed.

    Furthermore, my sympathies go out to “Anony”, I would have though that completing a degree would provide great satisfaction on its own, but i guess not :( . p.s “cancerous vermin” such a brilliant definition for some uni strange! And one last thing .. be strong everyone, and try to relax and enjoy and be positve, who knows 2012 may just be real and we would have wasted our year at university moaning and being miserable! :/ .. peace. , George.

  1450. People in uni are so artificial. Always behind the popular guys and wish to be seen only with them. They look at me and say “yo you seen Kev anywhere?”, “where’s Kev?” Well he is in my fucking asshole!
    Annoying bitches!

  1451. I posted here a couple of months ago, bitter and resentful of the life I had at University, but more the idiocy of choosing something that I really did not want to do in the first place for three years of my life. Now that I’m out I haven’t gotten any job offers. The country I live in is so very very tiny that there is really only one city that you go to if you want to try and make a decent living when you’re a graduate.

    Well, since the people who taught me at University are the ONLY people that will possibly employ me, I was left with only two choices: kiss ass and get a (post) graduate position at the place I cursed every second of my degree, or turn my back-side around and go do something else. I felt I learnt my lesson for long enough and am now looking forwards to doing a Masters in a completely different field to what I did for my Bachelor’s. In hind-sight, I feel like University has sucked so much out of me that it just feels…tiring to be alive sometimes. Sometimes I look at people younger than me and feel so old and lifeless. Then I feel older because I realise that I’m only 21 and already reminiscing about being younger. It’s the continued resentment and regret of wasting away three years of my life learning at what I can only describe as ‘how to go backwards’. It’s hard to let go of, especially because all my friends seem to be moving so much in the opposite direction, leaving me behind in the dust, alone, coughing down my fatal mistake.

    To be honest, I am really grateful for the existence of this website. I think of all the people here who felt the same as I did, and those who now feel how I do being out of the traumatic University experience. It’s definitely not schadenfreude! I think it’s just the comfort of not being alone, as pathetic as that may sound, it’s the truth. The feeling that a strange idea in your head is not as strange as others may make you feel.

    It’s sad, but refreshing to be out (well mostly) finally. I don’t think you can really get over a bad degree experience in the first month afterwards but you can slowly piece your life back together. I’m remembering my dreams, my passions and myself again. I think that when I finally get over myself I’ll be a stronger person. But for now, the light in my spirit is only just beginning to flicker again.

    I hope that this provides some realistic comfort to those who are still struggling through the University system. Keep plugging at it! You don’t have to get a first honours. Don’t forget your dreams and aspirations. Set small goals and things to look forwards to in your semesters. Don’t hesitate to vent your frustration on this website whenever you feel overwhelmed!

  1452. I cant wait to finally university. Doing group exercises and writing meaningless assignments about group activities, essay, after essay after boring essay. It feels like uni is so much worse now that I’m appraching the second term of my final year. On top of all the dreary, endless amount of work to do my overdraft will probably only last out another month with no job, and hardly any jobs to choose from in the middle of january.
    University feels like the worst place to be when you’re having mountains of personal problems; being away from home just makes you feel even more isolated. I’m also beginning to feel way too old for uni at 24 and sick of feeling like a school child always trapped by what feels like a never ending supply of homework. When I finish uni I’m planning to work abroad to have a sunny holiday away from all this grey work and depressing student poverty. I can’t wait.

  1453. High school was almost like heaven, while university feels like hell. People here are so stuck-up, I was so happier in high school. I don’t have a single friends since I started university (October 2007)!!! Everyone says college/university is the best time of your life, but for me high school was the best time of my life. It was so cool, especially 8th, 9th and 10th grade /in my country high school starts in 8th grade/. I will never ever miss my university and my university colleagues, the way I don’t miss 1st-6st grade!

  1454. I effing hate university. I thought it would be so fun and easy (since I’m in music), but I’m halfway through my second semester, and I dread going each day. I hate the work. I hate the practicing. I hate the people. I just don’t know what I’m going to do with my life if I drop out. It is seriously depressing me.

  1455. Alyssa what University are you at ?

    I Despise University.
    I hate students, being a student , I hate lecturers I hate lectures.

    I HATE ECONOMETRICS , I HATE THAT BULGARIAN BITCH THAT ALWAYS GETS 92% in everything.

    Love the fact that I have somewhere to vent my rage

    I just need the cash so I can build a house somewhere far away and vanish.

  1456. I don’t know if reading this page has made me happy that other people are in the same boat as me, or sad that there really does seem to be no hope. The interesting thing is some of the people posting on here could of been at the same uni, at the same time, feeling the same way. It is very sad that instead of going out into the world and at the very least attempting to find like minded people the unhappy university goers posted on a forum that has been running for 7 years. Having read this it has occurred to me that the reason my University is crap for some and great for others, is because the ‘happy’ people are better at ignoring the depressing side of life and get on with it. I am sadly one of the other people- dwelling on how utterly miserable university is, will be and according to this forum always has been.

    But that is life unfortunately.

  1457. I am so glad to see other people feel the same way as I do. Three years in and I can hardly manage the courage or strength to get to class. Naturally a shy person I managed to have many close friends in high school yet when it comes to the university environment I spend my time alone, utterly alone. Interestingly enough I am always encouraged that this is suppose to be the best time of my life yet I have never been so utterly alone and depressed.

    The arguments presented that you should fix your problem and get help given by some on this site are perplexing. As a shy person I am afraid to seek help for my problems, further complexing the problems, I realize this yet I cannot get out of this downward spiral to destruction. I feel this institution has become my prison that will eventually result in my own demise.

  1458. god i am so sick of this situation, my housemates girlfriend doesnt contribute anything to the rent, or bills and lives here for free, they just sit around all day watching TV, and utterly boring crap why dont they ever leave the house for gods sake? when we go out all they want to do is take drugs every weekend which is really becoming tiresome and so we have nothing to talk about anymore. im fed up with being utterly broke and having to work in this boring hole of a flat its soul-destroying, and they wonder why I want to work overseas next year when I finish my degree…….

  1459. :(

  1460. Emil to Who cares

    In which University are you? At least tell me your country? I am asking you because I’m Bulgarian, too. And believe it or not, I’m not like her — I hate university the same way you do! People always cringe how bad high school is and they even make movies about it, but the truth is that college/university is worse. I miss my high school days!

  1461. Not who I used to be

    I can relate to many people here. I thought university would be a nice fresh start where I can learn things that I couldn’t learn in high school (it was kind of small and didn’t have a lot of resources).

    Within my first couple months in my first semester, I got super lazy, anti-social, gained a few pounds, watched too many tv shows online, became unmotivated at almost everything…it’s depressing just listing them out. (I do enjoy watching more tv shows because before I didn’t. lol)

    Every morning, it takes so much more effort to get out of bed, even on weekends. I know things change and you have to suck it up because later on it will be worth it. But right now, everything sucks and I don’t want to do anything.

    Here’s a depressing list (you can skip if you want):
    - I’m in my second year and I haven’t met any new people that I would want to hang out with outside of school
    - IT’S SO EXPENSIVE
    - borrriiiinnngggggg
    - Maybe I’m not meeting the right people, or I’m just quick to judge, but lots of people in my classes don’t seem interesting at all (no one I’d want to be friends with)
    - When the prof doesn’t give out a list of learning objectives, so you have to know everything about everything and you don’t know what to emphasize on
    - reading textbooks are boring
    - started getting pimples :(

    So I got a part-time job at the uni in my first semester there and I still didn’t make any friends.

    I think the worst part is the absence of friends in my classes. I was more social and overall happier in high school, and even when I had exams and got stressed out with balancing school, life and extra-curriculars, it was so much more worth it.

    I also find hobbies do not help. I starting reading novels for fun (John Green especially:)), focused more on piano (I started in gr. 11, so it’s hard now), baked stuff (legit baking), made up some sewing projects…doodled more…..NOTHING helps.

    I can’t wait until uni is over and then I can stress over finding a job (that I may or may not hate for ~30 years)

    OH, and when the buses aren’t running up the mountain, I can’t get to school!!!! even if classes are on schedule. RAGE! And stupid people on the bus!

    But I’m glad, I still have a sense of humour. I make references to a lot of the tv shows I watch or what I’ve watched on YouTube. Sad thing is when I say something about a show and my friends/family don’t watch it…thats sad.

    bleh (gradually getting less articulate. that’s what uni did to me)

    (I’ve read a few of the previous posts, and I don’t like how some people are getting upset at the people who are ranting and complaining. That’s what this place is for. It does say “ihateuniversity”, not “letsargueaboutmyunilife”.)

    -M

  1462. People sifting through pages of the internet to find hate threads, posting replies to be the voice of reason make me laugh XD. Don’t bother coming into the thread if your not venting in line with the title :P trolling is for tardz. Uni does indeed suck, theres my contribution.

  1463. I think I’ve realised that university is pointless. Besides access to one or two websites you’d otherwise need a subscription for, there is nothing you’re asked to do that you couldn’t do yourself, for free and at your leisure. I was hell-bent on getting into a top university, but now that I’m here, I realise that we are not the smartest people, and, actually, there’s still no guarantee of getting a job at the end of it. I’ve wasted three years when I could have been gaining professional experience and I’m gutted.

    But also, I’ve found the tasks quite pointless. Every single week, without fail, I’m expected to produce an essay on a topic. This is bullshit. Nobody can read and comprehend an entire author, or a theme, in six days. The essays we produce are absolute crap and no-one, at the end of it, feels they’ve really understood anything. Also, the course structure is stupid. Because it’s literature, you can either do it from Pre-history up to 1500, or pre-history right through to about 1970 (they say they teach contemporary literature but they don’t). There’s nothing for people who primarily want to study contemporary, or even modern literature, and woe betide anyone who dislikes medieval literature, since there are TWO papers on it that count towards your degree, whereas all the others have just one.

    The same dead authors are studied at post-grad because they’re the ones who attract funding; most post-grad students are rich Americans because they are basically cash-cows; 99% of undergrads are middle-class twats or upper-class toffs. I have learned the fine art of ignoring people, since that’s what most people did to me when I arrived, being neither rich, white, straight, privately-educated or interested in going to generic bops and drinking alco-pops. But what really strikes me, is how stifled everyone is – even I’ve become a dab hand at it. In seminars everyone sits with whoever they know already, no-one makes any attempt whatsoever to speak to anyone else, and if you’re on your own, you’re on your own. But then if you try to feels sympathy for someone, they’re usually quite rude, curt or just plain unsociable. Maybe it’s just me. Maybe no-one wants to be approached by someone like me.

    The culture here is of masochism. You torture yourself, you work alone, you keep everything inside, you never show what you feel, you do too much and sleep too little, then you go out and drink like a bastard, have bad sex, and indulge in the dumbest culture of celebrity magazines and hollywood films available. You call yourself intelligent, but you call other female students ‘hoes’. Endless gay and rape jokes. Paedophilia is the funniest thing ever. It’s just so dumb.

    Anyway, my tutors are, for the most part, good people, and I feel disappointed that I hate university so much because it means I never show them how thoughtful I am. I don’t really care about my final grade, though I am simultaneously stressed about what others will think if I fail. I graduate in five months – at which point I will fuck off and most likely never return to this part of Britain again.

  1464. i hate the fact i need a degree just to prove that i’m compitant in computer programming rather than to actually learn anthing. all the patronising lectures about linked lists and variables are anough to make me crazy.. thus i dont go and will be regarded as an idiot who thought it was too hard.. :( life sucks when your ahead of the game.

  1465. Its my 1st month of university, …..no friends at all, struggling to keep up with work, finish one assignment..then the fuckers post in more assignments due next day…. sleep by 2 am and wake up fucking 5 am everyday (fuck engineering!) i cant change my program too, because of external pressure..suicidal thoughts keep running in my mind…i try to socialize but to no avail…its like everyone has already formed their friend circles…so fucking annoying…

  1466. In the 2nd term of my final year of mechanical engineering at a ‘top’ uni. Completely fed up with this course, the stupid amount of hard work (only to end up with the same career prospects as someone doing an easier subject at a ‘lesser’ uni), and the lack of help available. Thank God there are only a few months left of this – just need to knuckle down and keep at it till June.

  1467. I hate university so much. I might share my story with the rest of you later. I say that partially because I am concerned that idiots like Generations of Idiot will come along and disect what I say. For now I would just like to say that I love Askimet’s comment which was posted recently on the 27th January 2011. It is quite possibly the best post I have come across so far.

  1468. I hate university so much. I’m in my first year. All of the stuff I’m learning I could teach myself in a week just by reading a book on the subject (politics, geography, english) It’s expensive and the people here are stupid. In this weeks’ university newspaper the only articles were a page long debate on to use tanning beds or not and the “greatness” of lady gaga. People still listen to katy perry and akon. The walls of my dorm are paper thin and I hear people listening to this middle school garbage and all hours of the night. I don’t know everyone is a fucking idiot, I don’t know how they even got into university, I want to drop out and live in a tree or something it’s such bullshit UGHHH

  1469. UnhappyStudent

    Some time ago, I’ve posted a message stating how discontent I was with my education in a university setting and how hard I was trying to keep things up. That’s it. I’ve lost all the interest I had for my university, but mostly for my major. Now that I know everything I did will provide me with so little opportunities for my future, I’m more exasperated than ever to go in class. I’m still not giving up, but it’s only because I’m almost done.

    I’ve come to the conclusion that my place is not there, so I’m not going to apply for graduate study. I did some research and found many technical colleges offering excellent prospectives… so I can at least have a job that pays for what I’ve learned!

  1470. “Some time ago, I’ve posted a message stating how discontent I was with my education in a university setting and how hard I was trying to keep things up. That’s it. I’ve lost all the interest I had for my university, but mostly for my major. Now that I know everything I did will provide me with so little opportunities for my future, I’m more exasperated than ever to go in class. I’m still not giving up, but it’s only because I’m almost done.”

    I know exactly how you feel. I am experiencing third year burn-out with everything university related.

    “I’ve come to the conclusion that my place is not there, so I’m not going to apply for graduate study. I did some research and found many technical colleges offering excellent prospectives… so I can at least have a job that pays for what I’ve learned!”

    Well done for putting a positive spin on your situation. Hopefully whichever path you choose to pursue, you will find some measure of success!

  1471. UnhappyStudent

    @Riks

    Thank you so much for encouraging me. I hope things will go just fine for you as well. ;-)

  1472. Hey everyone! I found this site via Google and boy am I glad! I can relate to what all of you have said. I’m actually in grad school now but I hated university from day 1. That’s more than 5 years of torture really… University is so meaningless that it truly amazes me that I actually survived it. So basically life from about age 5 is all about studying and then working? Remember the quote from fightclub ” We work jobs we hate to buy shit we dont need” All I can say to all of you is life is very short so dont stay at university just because other people expect it of you. You are not your grades, your cars, your bank account. Don’t stay in university just to please your parents either-I know my parents spent most of their savings on my education but university sucked the life out of me. I’d rather quit something I hate and be happy than be a miserable educated fool. No wonder so many people are depressed-I’m amazed thereare people who can go to university and actually maintain their sanity. Go with your heart-however hard that maybe. Don’t waste your life doing what you hate. Try and find a job that you can enjoy a bit, that doesnt stress you out and that can give you some free time-even if that means taking a lower paying job. I’d rather go live on some tropical island and be a baker or something than do this university thing again. This is YOUR life. Live your life according to your own values. And if something doesnt make you happy give it up already.

  1473. I wrote on this site _ages_ ago and it made me feel much better, i am in my final year and only i guess 6 months untill its all _hopefully_ over but i’ve prob failed 1 module i may have to repeat sigh….

    But my god how pointless is all of this its got to the stage where i was suicidal before but its just 10x worse i took 1 year out and it was the happiest time of my entire life to work in industry and i got the job off my own back off my own work i have done they offered me to do a funded phd with them because of the stuff i was able to do.

    I then went back to uni for a bit absolutle hated everymoment of it did a scholarship with google summer of code was totaly amazing got job interview offers with differenet places even though i havent graduated. I go back to college more bull shit.

    Right let me explain i do Mathematics and Computer science so you would imaging it woudl take alot of creativity and understanding to pass the exams in that you actually have to think your way though problems let me tell you jezz the degree is almost entirely 90% theory 10% practical and the 90% theory is entirely about learning off stuff and writing it dow in an exam there is _rarely i mean seriously rarely anything you can work out from first principles. I nmy opinion if your going to be a software engineer you _have to bhe able to solve problems on your own but everyone in the world seems to think in universities ahh you just learn off all of this bull shit you will _never use ever again. i mean seriously all the lecturers are entirely stuck in a niche that they teach and you cant re use any of it i mean they think to themselves its the most important thing in the world of course and they have to power to pass or fail you if you dont bow down and treat them like gods even though they have such little experience in the real world.

    So many lectureers i have know only are they becasuse they did their degree then did a phd and couldnt get a job… says alot about the lecturers of today.

    The fact remains so many of people infact all the people i know who graduated last year couldnt get a job and still cant well some have but i mean its not even remotly related to what they studied like all call centers or working in a shop.

    A university degree is _only_ for a class system for people to shelf people off if they are demmed to be of a proper class to be around other people but then they realise if they are to go into a very practical role of a softare engineer can they actually do anything the ansewr is no they can talk 10 years about it and write dreadful software but jezz..

    i dont know what the world is comming to i seriously cant stand university its alll so dull uninteresting and just full of the NME gig douche bag types who all dress and talk the same who have the same interests.

    I hate goign to class so much they lecturers are just so condecending and not aproachable or even pleasant to be around.

    Its the anxiety of it all that gets to me i just wish i could go to class and _no one bother me just be invisible all i want is just give me all the assignments and the presentations your going to give let me do them and prepare for the exam because at the end of the day no lectuer has ever been helpful to me they are all so dull and boring and truely just crap at the end of the day.

    I just feel so trapped at the moment for many reasons but this is just getting so long i cant even explain anymore its getting me so depressed i cant even get movitvated to do the work thats been getting me noticed by people and tis the kind of thing that will get me a job at the end of the day and i just cant get motivated anymore to do anything

    I just feel so useless at the moment is whats the worst part because i dont feel good about anything even when i do university work i feel about as useful as a health option in a burger joint. i mean its all seriously bull shit work that takes you 5 hours just to get in the mind set of the lecturer since none of it is even remotly related to whats done in the real world.

    And dont get me started on mathematics i though this would help problem solving skills how about its 1 module learn some obsure random stuff forget alll of it do the same over and over and none of it inter relates and its all so boring and un related to anything you weill ever do and whats worse is you cant re use any of it its not problem solving its learn a pile of crap off and re do it in the exam its nothing that actually teaches a subject to anyone i mean i cant even really explain myself properly its so hard to explain my position to why i am so depressed but i dunno its just bolloucs i just wish they would fucking get rid of university i mean its nothing to do with teaching anymore its only for a class system whoi was dumb enough to learn a piule of crap off that they will never use again.

  1474. I’m feel like I’m going through a depression cause I have no body and one of the folks I thought was down was a clown ass crosser and now I have to see her sometimes. I’m taking 6 classes, working part time and just wish I could run away. My apathy is beyond belief…all my work is done last minute or worse late. I don’t want to die but damn I can’t feel satisfied. I am slipping up and it sucks. I do “well” but it seems and IS POINTLESS. Last year of this bullshit and I have to get a masters cause this paper degree is useless. Moreover, I have become addicted to the internet. But hey kids, keep your head up cause your going to die sooner or later and that I see as POSITIVE relief. Life would be freaking great without WORK and SCHOOL. School sucks but if is a possibility at a life that is slightly better from homeless…stick in there.

  1475. in my personal opinion and experiences
    ive found that when one is going to a university in their home town, they hate it. Its a matter of the transportation and going to class, you dont make friendships as close because you dont live on residence.
    My friends who are away at school love it because they have so many friends and so much freedom. They dont have to travel 2 hours to get to school and back every day because they are 10 minutes away from campus.

    Idk
    if i was given a second chance, i would have definitely gone away for university and maybe then with a more positive environment i would have been more motivated to keep going on with my program.

    Im just hoping for the best for everyone here
    cheers to our future

  1476. the only possible way people can enjoy university life is if they are away on campus. They are there free and allowed to self medicate their problems with alcohol whenever they want.

    complete garbage
    fuck all of you who say we are a bunch of whiney idiots

    if you enjoy university its probably because you are drunk 24/7 and have everything you need right outside your campus housing door you fucks

  1477. Found this site after googling. “I fucking hate university.” I admit that I have made a decent amount of friends and its not like I’m lacking a social life. I do attend societies and such.
    Problem is I don’t really have much in common with my “Friends” so I don’t even speak to them as much as I should because there isn’t much to talk about other than our class work. University isn’t about friends I know that but I still cant help but feel slightly bothered by that.
    The societies I have joined are poorly run and the people in the have formed their own friendship circle so its hard to join in and have a decent conversation with them even though we all share the same interests.
    Sorry for any grammatical mistakes, cant be bothered with that when I’m ranting.

    The people in my class are extremely quiet they stare but they wont talk to you and most of them are mature students who don’t really seem to know why they are there.
    The commute to University is hectic and my mum is taking advantage of the money student finance gave to ME. I cant even get a grant due thanks to my dad.
    So I’m kinda struggling, I cant go out to events outside uni with my old friends because I barely have any money to spend.
    Now I will admit my decision to go uni was not by my own choice but out of pressure by family, teachers and my friends. I was a naive 18 yr old girl who knew absolutely nothing and right now I’m seriously regretting not saving any money before applying in the first place! But I didn’t know anything back then.

    There was a uni I really wanted to go to but I was rejected. I ended up in a university I wasn’t really interested in. I have no passion for the course any more, the teaching isn’t all that interesting either.
    The facilities are the only thing I like about that uni other than that I find myself bitterly running for the train every other day because I have to. I don’t think I can stand another two years of this, where’s the great university life I have heard so many people bragging about? Where is it? It feels like I’m at secondary school again! College was better than this!

    Anyways I’m seriously considering transferring to another uni for my second year. Preferably to the one I was rejected from previously. Most of my friends know this but I know they really don’t care and I’m too scared to talk to my parents about this as they will condemn me right away. To be honest I don’t really know what I’m doing any more but I can’t drop out when I don’t even have a part time job!

  1478. I’m a third final year student and I cannot wait to get the fuck out of university. What’s worse is that my lack of interest for my chosen subject has totally dissappeared and I’m now finding it a struggle and not even motivated for anything. First year was great; all fine and dandy; the second year was alright, bit crap to be honest because you notice the change of work load which gets higher and more serious; and the final year is just one big drag. To be honest I’ve failed one module which I will have to re-take in the summer which sucks. I have a few friends but no real proper best friends at university because I just find the people so fucking fake its stupid. All they want to do is go out clubbing and get drunk and go to local music rock band gigs which is fine as I have done this a few times since I have been here however it gets so damn boring after a while plus I am in the final year so have to concentrate on my work. I realise university is about education which is fine by me since I am not the type to always go out every single night however the people here are just so fake. I just want to get out of this southern city and go back home and find a decent job after I graduate and Iv’e even begun packing up all my things in my house how desperate can you be to do that in order to get out of this tired and boring, lame place which I have been stuck at for the past 3 years already. And that’s another thing this city is rubbish there is nothing here and the shops get boring after a while. Only 3 months left til I finish which I cannot wait too and opefully won’t be sticking around in this dump ever again. Students now piss me off and I thank god this is over with. Given the chance I would never do this again I am just lucky it’s nearly all over I guess. I wil be moving on with my life and get a good job hopefully. Being a university student does suck as your pretty much skiny all the time too which doesnt help but then again that’s all about being a student. Now I just cannot wait to END this misery this year and move on with my life back at home or near to London if I can get a good job. I always think that by this time next year or even by the summer I will no longer be here and it feels fucking FNATASTIC! I feel pity of those newbie students and second years. I will soon be waving goodbye. and thank fuck for that. Peace Out.

  1479. I wanna thank everyone that contribtes to this site except for the minority that prefer to troll.
    Reading your posts really make me feel better about my situation here knowing that im not alone in the struggle. I’m in my 3rd year of a 4 year course. its been a journey getting this far and i really hope by God that i’ll be making it out of here by next year 2012 and not later. Gotta keep on pushing. Thank you.

  1480. stupidstudnets

    don –

    Don’t worry you will make it if you have enough will power. Your the same as me as I am in my third year however its my final year whereas you have one more year considering you are doing four long years. I feel for you but keep in there. Just over a year to go and you will be free! I can’t honestly wait til its over. Just 3 months left and I am done however I gotta do a re-take in the summer and I really don’t care anymore. I don’t care what result I get because to be honest I’m done with university now. I just want to finish off my course and get out as soon as possible. Get my result and fuck off out and I’m happy. I got my student house until september of this year so I probably will be coming back and forth so I can also get some privacy before I finally move back home for good. Shitty university I got a lesson in like 5 hours time and I really can’t be bothered with it but I must attend I guess. Its hard when you have lost interest because they push you so much that you start to not enjoy what you do it pisses me off and I’m fed up with the lot. My university is good no complaints there and the teachers and lecturers are good at what they do. However I’m just fed up of being here, being always skint with no money and living in a half decent messy student house where all my flatmates piss me off. I just want to gather up all my belongings and move them back home. Three years is enough for me, is enough for anybody. Four years is just pushing it a bit. Better than 6 years atleast. Fuck me I would have a breakdown. I havent got to that stage where I want to kill myself yet although I have suicidal thoughts but too much of a pussy to do anything but its been good to me so far. Plus I’m a guy so I think guys tend not to worry as much as girls. Seeing as all the fucking girls freak out already in their final year it doesn’t make me fucking feel that great either. Drama queens. Even facebook is fucking depressing..I sign on and all I get are my class mates writing depressing things about their coursework and it makes me feel guilty about not doing my own its so fucking god damn DEPRESSING! Yeah I study a creative subject so those in a similar situation will know. I really don’t care what mark I will get, probably come out with a 2:2 but to be honest I don’t give a flying fuck anymore I just want to get my mark and get out. University is NOT the be all and end all. Jesus christ this is what university has made me do to bitch about pointless drivel which I know in a few years time will mean fuck all. It’s pointless ah everything is fucking pointless at the end of the day. FUCK!!!!!! rant fucking over. Sorry for swearing I just needed to get out what the hell I needed to write right now.

  1481. The whole point of me coming to this total dump and pour my money down the drain was to get a 2:1 and do something in psychology. Every day I stay here I can see the chance of me getting a 2:1 slide further away. I totally empathise with the above guy, I am exactly the same , I just want to get my mark and get out of here. Shit, the people are depressing, the subject is even depressing. My interest in this subject is all but gone. Combine that with a ridiculous workload, the fact that I’m utterly broke and the fact that I’m having to pay people to actually take part in my final year project, so that I dont fail my degree totally fucking sucks.

    I see stuff advertised saying a 2:1 is so important for jobs. Why? It’s just a mark. Lots of people who get 2:2s have one hell of a lot of personal circumstances going on which makes achieving a high mark extremely difficult, if not impossible. I’ve worked my ass off this year, and I think its pathetic to be turned away from a job just because I didnt score 10% higher in my marks, its ridiculously depressing.
    Now I just feel like all this garbage and studying something I no longer find interesting has been a complete waste of time. The worst thing is I am so fucking busy I dont feel like I ever have time to book in with the careers adviser to discuss my option as I am always so exhausted from working. There is a stupid rule that you have to call up at 8am just to book an appointment with them. As if you’re going to wake up at 8am on your day off when you’re fucking tired and just want a break from coursework. I am completely and utterly sick of all this bullshit.

  1482. Don't wanna be an educated Fool

    University will likely make you into an educated fool such as the self-important F’ers we see pouring their condescending shit on others here.

    If I could turn back a few years I’d have pursed a trade qualification. I’d have learnt creative, useful skills while getting paid unlike a degree = ‘classy’ piece of paper which basically says I’m able to memorize enough bullshit to pass a few exams while smiling at people I don’t like, while paying for the privilege.

    My advice is, life is what you make of it, you don’t have to do shit you don’t want to. Its obvious most here are in university even though they know its not for them. We all must make money, but at least try to do something that allows you to be around people who you can like and trust and believe in. Within the confines of society, I think still have enough freedom to be true to your heart. Open up your paths and research jobs other than ‘engineer’, ‘accountant’, ‘doctor’ or ‘lawyer. Nobody can tell you to do or be shit but your very self. This is all from my own experience after spending too long at university and getting a job I could have got straight out of high school, after doing a corporate job and hating it. The things you really want to do might be risky and even unacceptable now, but at least you won’t have bitter regrets about them later.

  1483. I’m in my final year of engineering, and have grown sick of it. From experience, if you’re hating your course in the first or second year you should consider transferring or dropping out to reapply for something else, if possible. It’s far better to pursue something you’re really interested in than to persevere with something boring and difficult, thinking it may get better or you’ll ‘get used to it’- it is more likely to get worse. This seems obvious but pressure from other factors (family, friends, money etc.) often deters people from doing the right thing.

    Essentially what I want to say is this: life’s too short to waste time on something you hate, especially if you have the means to change it. Take on a subject which you will succeed at, whether it’s because you enjoy it or otherwise. Weigh up all your options thoroughly and realistically, and consult as many knowledgeable people as possible so that you can find the right path. Once you’ve found it, get on it as soon as possible – nothing will happen if you just sit around and complain!

  1484. I absolutely fucking hate uni, got 7 weeks left of this term to go, I just want it to end. I have an essay due next tuesday which I am sure I will probably score somewhere in the 50s for, a presentation I need to have ready by the end of the month and a 5000 word report due at the end of march. I am pig sick of this term, I am even poorer than last term which I didnt think was possible and to help matters, the student loans people have decided to pay my next student loan 2 weeks later than last year, meaning I will not get another loan payment until the 28th april. My termly rent of £885 is due on the 16th april and just how I would pay that without first having my student loan through is a complete mystery to me. The people I’m living with are starting to do my head in, the people on the course are irritating and ingenuine, they are not people I would like to hang out with. I am member of a society where most of the people are cool but this means I only get to see people I like for 2 hours a week and it sucks. This feels like the only time I am happy any more. I cannot wait to have a week away at home. I still have to wait for another 7 weeks for that, which sucks ass. A week is not nearly enough since I only got to see my mum at xmas for 10 days. I need a proper holiday for once. Except the train is £39 pounds return, money I just cant justify unless I’m able to spend at least a week at home. I just want to escape from uni and my housemates everythings just doing my head in right now, I’d love to be able to pack up and leave if only I didnt live so damn far away. I’m missing home SO much, made worse by the fact that I’m no longer enjoying my course. Praying I can get a couple of weeks at home after the summer exams if my manager can give me the time off. If not I’m tempted to just leave my job in the summer. The problem is my housemates are putting pressure on me to decide whether I want to live with them or not and in all honesty I need to know soon if my summer holiday will be happening or not. If its not then I will definitely be returning home for summer. Fuck knows. All I know is this is like choosing between the lesser of 2 evils: better the devil you know, or live with people you’ve never met? SO stressed right now. Aaaarggh! I NEED my week away!

  1485. I totally fucking hate uni, I’m even running away for 2 weeks so that I can get a break from this place. Even my part time job which i just got, I am that fucked up about everything. Course is doing my head in, housemates are doing my head in, bills etc. I just want to get my grade and get the fuck out. Theres got to be better people to live with seriously. I’m so tired of all this crap, I just want to get a job and move away. Uni sucks ass.

  1486. I have written on here before but i simply must again….especially as the generations of an idiot guy has promised not to respond. Across the years University has gradually become a place where society expects you to go to amazing parties, find amazing friends and come across the love of your life. These things are possible but if you want them then you have to grab the bull by the balls and make them happen yourself otherwise you will find that after uni, when you look back at your time spent there, that most of it was alone in your room wallowing, wishing it would improve instead of you improving it for yourself. If work hard then you will leave uni with a degree that will take you to the next stage of your life but if you want the ‘uni experience’ then get of this forum, turn of your internet, go to your s.u and join a club, knock on your neighbors door and ask them for a drink, be adventurous and remember everyone at uni wants the time that you want. Please, life is to short to moan and be depressed just get of your arse and make it happen, or regret it in 20 years. Your choice.

  1487. my reading week just ended and i am so so so so so so sad. it’s my second year here and i am still so lonely. all my friends from high school went to different universities. i haven’t found any new friends. everybody here seems to have their own posse and i can’t find anywhere to fit in. i’m attending a huge school (university of toronto) and it makes me feel small and unimportant.

    i just don’t understand how my friends can enjoy their own university while i am here being depressed. they all found their own friends and they don’t need me as much anymore.

    i’m only in university because i can’t find a decent job without a degree (or so everyone tells me) and plus i’ll be looked down on if i drop out.

    i feel like life started going down hill since my first year of uni here. so when does it get better? do i still have to suffer at least 2 more years of university until it gets better????????????????????????

    if i could find a group of friends (that doesn’t just sit beside me for class but wants to hangout and have fun with me) i would like university a lot better.

    get me outta here!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1488. lonely student #2

    I feel the same way as the above poster. I go to McMaster University and I’m in my third year now. No friends, no social life, depressed as a result of this. I guess I’ve somewhat adapted to this by now, but it still gets me sometimes. Most of the people I know are just academic acquaintances. People you exchange quizes/assignments with, sit in class with sometimes, and say “hello”. People you can’t really consider “friends”. This is so lame. I actually miss high school because I had friends back then. But everyone went their separate ways — to UofT, Waterloo, Western. It’s kind of late for me to make friends now. Usually it all happens during Welcome Week in first year. At this point I just want to graduate already. Get me out of here as well!

  1489. i know how ya feel man!! just gotta stay strong you can do it!! yeah!!!!

  1490. i h8 uni 2. fuk dis shitz fuk every1 and fuk everything. i just want to sit at home nd go sleep forever. lectures chat shit. nd ur not guaranteed a job after, so its not wprth loosing sleep over. nd y do we have to pay so much fukin taxes. i just want to chill out nd do summat usefull for a fukin change. uni fukin life really fukin sucks. have fun at shitty university. bye

  1491. Alex White (ENGLISH)

    I would put money on every single one of the fags that hate uni on this page is a goddam no good piece of shit american cunt!!!!

    FUCK U AMERICA U FAT BASTARD

  1492. I hate uni even after a year, oh well just 3 months to go and I’m out of there and have my freedom back along with my well earned degree ^_^

  1493. Learning all of the worlds secrets is what i truly thought the world is all about. The whole idea of university in paper seemed like a dream of knoweldge passed on to you. As i attended it though, the delusion deteriorated. Replacing came a heavy feeling of dread, of how this is set in your path and how without this degree youre just another useless person in society.

    “Useless”
    “Useless person in society”
    Those terms ring through my head often. If you cant handle university society deems you of a lower social importance regardless of your intentions or why you dont want to or cant. People on the street are us, we are The same shit. Every kid is born in the same way, we all learn through out our life regardless of a university or not. University is more of a way of getting money out of people rather then education. A BOOK WORTH 5 POUNDS CAN BE WAY MORE EDUCATING THEN 3 YEARS IN A SHITTY UNIVERSITY WHICH COSTS 48,000 POUNDS YES A BOOK. THEN WHAT DO YOU GET? A FUCKING DEGREE TO SAY HEY, Im not useless! I am part of a society, ask me anything about business.

    Everyone is so selfish at times, everyone is competing for their place. Im sick of the same old quotes of “Its easier to change your self then change the world.”, well i cant change my self because something in me tells me that what ever you call education right now is corrupt in some sense, even though it offers a degree of education it is way far from the true form of learning that we humans strive for.

  1494. yeah I understand what u mean and to be honest Im going thru the exact same thing
    I m also sure that there are many people from around the world going thru the same shit as well
    Last year I tried to drop out of university cause I was sick of every bit of it
    its my third year and I still havent made much decent friends at all
    sick of the constant workload
    the non existent social life every1 keeps raving about
    but I guess you’re just gonna have to stick it man
    i dont believe shit that goes like “you have to have a formal education to excel in life”, but I do think it’ll be worth it to take every opportunity at your disposal.

  1495. Don't wanna be an educated Fool

    Skas and Evan and all the others who realise the TRUTH through your own experience and awareness, continue to share your thoughts. Those attacking and ridiculing us are scared of their paradigms being broken down and violated. The high and mighty and self-righteous proponents of ‘university’ and ‘eliteness’ are scared that all that they’ve ever been taught and believed in, is in the process of being exposed as baseless illusions. This site of full of ‘real’ people who are or have actually gone to university and realised difficult truths about society and themselves. Which is real learning. Truths are fantastic, and not taught in any institution. I don’t wanna spend my life expending precious energy on things I know are pointless and really are done to appease or conform to somebody else’s ideas or rules.

  1496. I cant wait for uni to hurry up and end. The stupid people at student loans have decided that it would be sensible to hold off paying people their student loans until the end of April. How thoughtful. This means I will be absolutely broke for the next 2 months, how wonderful. In the meantime I have to start writing up my dissertation next week which is due for the 6th April, so I will be penniless with this unwanted stress hanging over me like a dark cloud. I dont get to even go home and see my family until the 11th April…..so depressing……the absolute inconsiderate morons that I am living with are also really getting me down. My life would at least be easier if I had all my assignments done and I just had to sit a few shitty exams. Every day I pray I will come out with a 2:1 but so far I have absolutely no way of knowing. Partly because they are so slow and shit with the marking. Fuck me I cant wait until May when I can start looking for a full time job, go on my year out and save some fucking money. Jesus….

  1497. For people who keep insulting people who hate university: why don’t you go create your own ‘i love university’ web page? Instead of insulting everyone who posts in honesty, as if you really know anything about them/ have a right to judge them at all. Personally i too hate university. The amount of reading is not right for my learning style. If each subject gave something more like one ten page reading a week then i could read the text properly, take notes & actually care what it’s saying. Plus all these electronic readings bore me even more than the paper ones. At least one i can highlight. No time & money to print them out. Plus electronic readings mean i have to go on the computer to read them, which means I’m always getting distracted as i am now. How much longer can this last?

  1498. aside from the obvious that everyone has pointed out

    another factor of university that really disturbs me is that this 40,000 degree – a stupid little piece of paper

    has the ability to judge who i am and my ability based on what it says.

    This scares the living shit out of me because i know i am worth more than that stupid piece of paper ever will define me as

  1499. UnhappyStudent

    At the same time, it is funny and sad (pathetic more like) to read all those idiots complaining about people sharing their sentiments on their university experience. How did those idiots land on a website specifically designed to bitch about university in the first place? Trolls are getting lamer than lame these days. I suspect this is all done by a single individual, and I’m pretty sure he’ll recognize himself! ;-)

  1500. Jumpinginthebandwaggon

    So you people bookmark this page? LOL.

  1501. troubledolchap

    I’m just in a mental state of hatred towards my uni so much that Ive stopped going to lectures and the uni itself asI don’t see any point in them as the professors are convinced that we somehow know all the stuff they teach. I am also finding it hard to get a job as somehow I’m not ass licking enough in my CV.
    Really – fuck this corporate world we live in. Fucking annoys me when the founders of them companies dropped out at like aged 16 and think they can rule the world…and unfortunately do and we are merely paid slaves in this never ending cycle till death or salvation.

    Just wondering what some of you people here did/going to do after you finished your university degree or even dropped out.

  1502. I’ll probably be doing a menial job for the rest of my life after getting my degree because the corporate world is just too competitive , fake and cold for me. Just like university. People with degrees working in factories and warehouses, are becoming common down here. Wonder why?

  1503. I go to U of T, which is fucking gigantic and unbelievably impersonal. On the days I can convince myself to go to class, I commute for an hour to drag my depressed ass to a boring as fuck lecture, walk like a zombie to my next classes then go home and do shit all.
    I’ve always considered myself to be quite sociable, but I’ve only met one person that I actually talk to regularly, and he’s an arrogant dick who I suspect just wants action from me. I expected university to be really fun, with wild parties and all that, but in reality, it’s terrible and I can’t wait to be done.
    I hate my program and I find the profs obnoxious and very dull. I’m only here to get a degree, but I feel like I’m going crazy. Maybe that’s the price I’ll have to pay to avoid being a lifer at Mickey D’s.

  1504. UnhappyStudent

    @Jenny Craig

    Thanks, this is exactly what I was talking about! Changing your name isn’t going to help…

  1505. I absolutely hate university!! The lectures are pointless and completely unrelated to what I want to do. I’m in my first year studying Forestry and if i could get a job without this shitty degree I would. I hate all the reading and essays. I knew that I would have to do some, but I’m a practical person and being here just saps all the energy out of me. I have no motivation to do anything anymore and I’m starting to wonder if it’s really worth this much trouble?

  1506. I FUCKING HATE UNI AND ALL THOSE FUCKING TWATS WHO THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING.
    FUCK I HOPE THEY SUFFER MISERABLY IN THEIR LIVES AS IM AT THE POINT OF INSANITY! FUCK THIS WORLD…

  1507. next student protest march is on march 26th 2011 in london city. Be there everybody! And yeah uni sucks i’m in my final year thank fuck for that. I just want to get out of this hell hole i’m not even interested anymore in the subject I came here to study. Completely lost interest like quite a lot of people. I really cannot be bothered anymore I just want to get my grade and get out of here. Hopefully I will actually FIND a job when I graduate..but seeing as it’s unlikely I don’t know what other option there is apart from being a chav with no future =[
    Lets hope it doesn’t come to that.
    For those of you thinking of coming to uni or know anybody who is, I would really talk it over with them. It would be worth it as long as you know your going to get somewhere with your degree.

  1508. Plus there is no point going to uni now that the government are raising fees to £9000 and there is going to be a global war within the next year. Life sucks.

  1509. Well Jon FYI I’ve actually been 4 years in total with 2 at college and 2 years at uni in order to get the full degree (for weird reason were told to repeat the second year at uni like the others who were also going to the same uni as me) and my artistic skill will come in handy since I’m going to be a freelance artist and while I also take a year out and chill out. Waste of time repeating the second year and if I knew uni were gonna be crap then I would’ve just finished it at college. Anyone who starts being cocky to me on here after reading this then you are obviously either a tutor or a stuck up student who likes to think you’re better then anyone else and looking at the weak point in my writing.

  1510. I hate my university teachers. University is just as bad as elementary school! High shool was way better! If only I could turn back time, the 2001-2006 timeframe was the best for me. That was the time I spent in high school.

  1511. Why highschool is better:
    - Why the attendance rate should be just the same like in university, the high school subjects are nowehere as hard and as pointless as the subjects we have at university.
    - My university is a small and private one and people here think they’re the best.
    - Girls here are ugly, but they have a too high of opinions about themselves.
    - I was almost popular in highschool!

  1512. i just started uni 3 weeks ago and its nothing like i thought it would. Ive actually never been so depressed in my life. lectures are extremely boring. its literally impossible for me to listen to someone talk for more than 10 minutes that i have very little interest in (the reason i only go to uni is so i can hopefully get a good job because nowadays without a degree your nothing but a bum to society). Tutorials are just as bad. i hate having to work in groups with other people. im not anti-social but i dont want to be forced to talk to other people about shit i dont care about. The other thing i hate about uni is everybody in it! ive never felt so out of place, everybody acts so fake and they all walk around like there better than you, im so tempted to walk up to everybody and tell em to f**k themselves. i hate uni so much, the day i leave is the day i will be a happy man again.

  1513. Just did it today, threw my studies in the bin and got an apprenticeship in floriculture :)
    So, sod cell biology, sod chemistry and most of all….FUCK MATH & PHYSICS!!
    Jeez, I’m fed up with this university crap.
    In 1st semester (biology, in constance, germany) we were about 170 students. now it’s the end of 3rd semester and ca. 50 people are left (!)
    Students are systematically filtered out with mathematics, physics and hardcore chemistry. and even if you’re able to pass these tests, later on you don’t have time to rework the stuff you actually like, because you’re swamped with laboratory work!
    now don’t get me wrong…laboratory work is pretty interesting. but why the fuck can’t this take place in the free time between semesters???
    It’s too much, you can never really enjoy a little bit of free time without a guilty conscience!
    So….Fuck that for a laugh, I’m gonna be a happy gardener instead of a mind-fucked biologist ;)

  1514. Thank god for this website, honestly, reading these comments is like reading my own thoughts….
    Uni has completely ruined me. As a person I just don’t know who I am. I’m depressed, paranoid, unmotivated and dragging myself through every day. Day after day…it all merges into one long day.

    My housemates are all wankers, the bitchiest most judgemental group of people ever, they go out and get completely wankered every night – fine, but they commandeer the communcal spaces and I feel like a right tit waltzing in at 11pm to make a cup of tea while they are getting wrecked. Now i’m up for a drink and going out – just not with people I think are tossers. I miss my friends from home and feel left behind-not getting ahead.

    I spend day after day doing shit all. My course is quite interesting in itself but it has destroyed any passion I had for the subject, I’ve lost the spark of motivation and interest I had before. I am getting good marks but my god it takes everything I have to haul myself to the library and get on with it. Failing or dropping out = not an option. Just not an option. It’s through sheer bloody mindedness that I’m still here. Seriously, simple force of will is keeping me here. And it’s taken it’s toll.

    I need to find some motivation but I feel like time is just standing still, or going by soo painfully slowly that I’ll never get out of this hell hole. I want to get out, earn some money, go on holidays, live my life, travel, start halfway down the road to loads of careers and then change my mind, just live my life and get into the real world. But I can’t. I’m scraping by on literally zero pence, stressed beyond belief, I can’t even remember what for.

    I’m not the person I was when I started and I just hope when I leave I can be that person again. This depressed shell of a friendly, funny, sociable girl I was two years ago cannot be here to stay or I’ll end up jumping in front of a train or something.

    God that was good.

    Good luck everyone – keep at it – you’re not alone and when we’re done we can get started on the real world and leave this whole bastard institution behind us. x

  1515. There seriously needs to be a change in how courses are taught so that everything we learn is applicable to the jobs we apply for in the future.
    We already know that after going through a 3-4 year uni course you forget 90% of the material you are taught because they are of NO USE in the job market. Thats both wasted time and money spent over the years learning material of no practical use.
    This is system of higher education seriously needs to change but i doubt it will any time soon. We are but mere paid slaves for a few rich elitists who rule this world.

  1516. HERE’S MY PERSONAL LIST OF TRADITIONAL DEGREES THAT I CONSIDER WORTHLESS AND WORTHY AND IN BETWEEN !!!

    Worthless Degrees:

    1. Philosophy/Theology (No prospective whatsoever)

    2. Visual Arts (Most jobs in the arts are given to people with degrees in Computer Science and/or with other kind of trainings)

    3. Drama/Acting/Music (Successful people in that field don’t even have a degree)

    4. Communications/Films (Most jobs in that field are given to people with degrees in Computer Science or degrees in Business or techinicians having a different training)

    5. English/Modern Languages (You need a degree in Education to teach)

    Worthy Degrees:

    1. Biology (All doors are open to people with degrees in Biology)

    2. Chemistry (Industries fight to get them)

    3. Nursing (A guaranteed job most of the time)

    4. Engineering (There’s a lot of money to make on new innovations)

    5. Social Work (Low pay but a guaranteed job most of the time)

    Between Worthless and Worthy:

    1. Computer Science (Very veratile degree, but more and more people get them so competition is getting very high)

    2. Medical Doctor (You must complete a M.D. to practice medicine which is very demanding, long, difficult, painful, and expensive to pursue; once you get it, you’re sure to work and make a lot of money)

    3. Business (One must be very careful in choosing a concentration because it might make all the difference; many opportunities for people who can sell themsleves)

    4. Psychology/Sociology (Very versatile degree to work in many different fields; you need at LEAST a master to practice in a clinical setting)

    5. Physics (One of the most if not the hardest degree one can get; many opportunities for successful people)

  1517. I HATE uni life. Im studying a chemistry masters and have been here about 4 months. Although I love the subject the course is poorly structured. My tutor thinks im stupid, because I struggle to do homework that is on content at least a week ahead of lectures. Why am I supposed to know this shit already? If I knew it already why would I even be here!? Lectures are generaly ok, some are realy good, but others are head bangingly dull. My course Is not however what truly grinds my gears.

    What I truly despise is living in halls. The kitchen is disgusting, my food gets stolen constantly despite my protests (I keep non perishable food in my room). Most people in my kitchen dont speak english and refuse to wash up, or clean, or take the rubbish out. The surfaces are always covered with festering food scraps. And im suposed to eat in here, when just being here makes me feel sick! The toilets are gross. People seldom flush, or clean up after, and the sink is usualy stained by last nights vomit. The people are shallow and seem unable to hold a conversation with me despite endless efforts.

    Dont you dare fucking say it is my fault for being antisocial or unfriendly. I have done everything in the fucking book to make friends, and I have friends. But not GOOD friends who look out for me and spend time with me. Most people seem to ignore me all together as if hoping that I will just dissapear. If you don’t like me at least have the balls to tell me! I attend numerous clubs, and frequent the gym, which along with chemistry labs are the few times I don’t hate life.

    Overall I need this course to persue a job in the subject I love, and am doing decently in terms of asignments (especialy essays, in which I have freedom to express ideas, I HATE EXAMS.) with a grade average of 76%, which is enough to convince me that this may some day be worth it, but I seem to be a long way form the end of the tunnel. And currently a long stretch of stress and frustration lies ahead. :(

  1518. just started first year of my postgrad.
    i’ve long gotten used to talking to people and socialising, but havent made any good friends. Really don’t give a damn anymore, as i spent the past 3 years trying so hard to get to know people and trying to make friends to the point where my grades have gone from bad to worse. (all of this just so i can have friends and a social life, since im living alone away from home.)
    but i’ve stopped caring, i hate my degree and am secretly counting down the days till i fucking finish next year. i hate living so far away from home, but i deal with it, cause in my situation there is no where else to go.
    stuff the fact that i dont know as much as those who work in the industry and have more exerience and knowledge than me.
    all i can do is work my ass off, ensure i graduate and make it home where i feel safer and more confident about myself.
    Because in the end, i have to teach myself that i can’t keep dwelling on shtit i can’t fix. and i can’t be intimidated by people who seem to be getting a shitload more out of their life than i am.
    because all i can do is what i do best, even if it looks like nothing to everyone else.
    i’m tired of making myself feel bad because i’m not good enough.
    and all i want is to move back home and fix all the things that have gone wrong.

  1519. NotLivingInACerealBox

    I love to learn, so I thought I’d love university. Big mistake…

    University seems to suck all the life out of learning. The assignments are meaningless, the lectures are boring and the people are all mindless. I have no time anymore to read a book…a real book, worth reading. I’m too busy with my nose buried in a textbook learning meaningless facts to pass another meaningless test, to earn a meaningless number entitled “grade”. I’m sick of being graded. I’m a 4.0 student (american system) and even I can’t stand the relentless numbers parade.

    The truth is I’m not learning anymore. No, I’m just perfecting the skills of being able to spew back information word for word from a text book or lecture notes. My papers always reiterate the professor’s ideals, never my own. You see…once I turned in a paper with MY own opinion and was given a poor grade because the professor thought my opinion wasn’t the “right” one. Universities are no longer a gateway to improve oneself, to learn, and to live. Universities have become a most modern business, built to make money, support consumerism and level the masses. If I could quit I would. I’d get a small house, fill it with books and study what I wanted. I’d enlighten myself to new ideas and old ones too. I’d let my curiosity lead my pursuit of knowledge.

    I wouldn’t limit myself to one subject, one area of study. Degree plans just close the mind of the individual. You study English, you know nothing of Math. You study Science you know nothing of English. On top of it, one gets to experience the wonderful slow increasing monotony that builds up over 4 years of studying the same subject to the minutious of points. Then we are supposed to pursue work in the same subject, only to continue the monotony.

    Universities only enable the continued categorization of the individual. The world at large has created over hundreds of years a societal construct that identifies and sorts people into their “appropriate” categories. From race to religion, to sexual orientation and even weight, society (including me and you) adores the label. Just stick it on and get organized.

    To be sure, if the world were not organzied in some such form, human beings might engage in more chaos than they already do. Yet, this author mind itches. Could it also be that the world’s chaos would lessen if the seemingly hereditary idea of organization were to crumble?

    I leave off with that thought. And the assurance that I TOO HATE university.

    NotLivingInACerealBox – because on the outside you can read the back.

  1520. Guys, you don’t HAVE to go to university. The truth is, your life is in your hands. NOBODY or NOTHING can make you do or be something you are not. You have to create your own life. I was feeling most of what everybody who hate uni feels. But I made my own decision and I’m out of there now and learning, training and getting jobs that I actually want to do and are good at, instead of ones I am ‘entitled’ to with a snobby ‘lofty’ academic degree, and actually choosing my own way in life. Now I am much happier and free, because I am in control of my life, I’m no longer trying to please anybody else. This is my experience, and I’ve learnt a lot about myself in the process. You really do experience and learn when you start taking control of your life.

  1521. I’m doing a double degree in law and economics. My employer is demanding I work 24 hours a week and hasn’t paid me in a month. Whenever I try to sleep recently, I just hear “Hi there, how can I help you?” over and over in my head.

    D: University sucks.

  1522. another student

    I also am not enjoying University that much anymore. I do not have very long left but I hate not having any money. I have been in education to long now and just want to start putting my skills into a work place and start earning money!

  1523. whererurmorals

    Pity university doesn’t teach people how to be tolerant, compassionate and to get along with each other…

  1524. From my reading most of you posters are from Britian. I am from way down in Australia and have found a similiar situations. Though not with the insitution, and I’m humble to admit that it may be me at fault, I don’t really do the clubbing and drinking, at the moment I have no car so my transport is limited. Most of the people in my degree live on campus, or in shared apartments, and are one or more years older then me. I am a local to the area with the uni, and I was the unfortunate one to be very popular with my community and at high school. I enjoy my work at uni, I’m lucky to be in one of the world’s top 5 uni’s for science.
    The problem I have is with the people in my degree. I am so use to cheery whacky people who enjoy the person you are not the knowledge or the amount of booze you can chug. To me the uni students are very dry in humour, tasteless, uncreative and have no cheery outlook on anything. I know I’m different, and I don’t go to clubs, but that’s all they do, they are actually rather boring.
    I want friends at uni because they are making my time at uni miserable by cutting me off. I wouldn’t mind going out with them, I have a boyfriend, who is the sweetest thing. And I have amazing friends outside of uni, I’m not incapable of creating friendships, but they seem incapable of accepting me.
    I kind of need advice. I’m in my second year, and I just want some good friends who are decent like my old ones, I found them before I’m sure it wasn’t a one off. Please help.

  1525. A Better Student

    I’m sorry I was so mean to everyone for all the nasty things because you are so miserable. It’s just that I while I’m good at what I do I lack social skills and no love life what so ever and have to take anti depressants 5 times a day and sometimes I over dose due to getting high from the drugs I take to help me cope and that I’m high and mighty over everyone including one this site. Sometimes I feel like ending my life and education is the only thing going for me and without that I’m no one thats why I’m such a dick head because I’m envy everyone on my course gets on well with each other but me.

  1526. A Better Student

    I’m so lonely right now and wish I had friends, oh well at least I have my degree for when I finish. I wish I weren’t a dick to everyone one on my course as well as on this site. I don’t even have any friends on facebook apart from the ones that try to steal my identity, I’m so sad please forgive me everyone

  1527. people will always hate uni. thing is, will you be in a better place having got a degree as opposed to not having one?

  1528. Jess, this is the fourth link from the top that appeared when i put in your google query: http://money.msn.com/college-savings/is-a-college-degree-worthless-smartmoney.aspx
    Check it out.

  1529. My university has this silly and unfair policy stating that less students should have As and Bs than students with Cs a Ds at any time during a semseter. Should the opposite occur, the professor must take arrangements to drop the average so it fits the policy.

    This situation is actually happening to me in one of my class, and I must say this policy is outrageous. We ALL worked extremely hard to get a good grade but it seems it’s not normal at my university to get good results when you work hard. Now, the professor ajusted all our grades and made an extra test with questions that were totally irrelevant to what we’ve been told to study for.

    I feel so deceived and betrayed. I have lost all the liking and trust I had for my institution.

    Long live to independent, for-profit, and correspondence universities that aim at the student’s personal objectives and fuck you public innstitutions.

  1530. I hate University. I hate the people I live with and everything about them, I hate my course, I hate the shit style of teaching, what’s the point in even going to lectures. Everybody is just stuck up and has absolutely no clue about anything.

  1531. hey, I agree uni is shit but then so is everywhere else. Because people everywhere are the same. Fakeness, disillusion, greed, jealousy, selfishness, insecurity, competitiveness, exist in all workplaces and the world.

  1532. university is horrible and in my opinion should only exist for a very limited, specialist type of job, i.e. a doctor, maybe a lawyer. anything else, and its a waste of time.

    How professors and academics earn can justify their university paychecks is beyond comprehension. there jobs should not exist. professors and academics heads are so far up their own arses they mustnt be able to see anything! never have i met an academic or professor who could actually do a days work really!! can you imagine a management professor even attempting to do a job on a site? lift a block? dig a trench? fill a foundation? do a bit of joiney or sparking? lol yet they want to manage and analyse the jobs that are being done? they think they are better than everyone else? their job should not exist!! practical learning should be the only way to learn!!

    my rant is weird i know, but i just cant stand reading these academic journals and doing this stupid coursework based on things that will never be used in life. university is for snobs, and people who are up themselves.

  1533. Hello fellow university haters,

    I hate university, clearly. I got out of high school hoping to find a place that would fit me. With people who had grown up and didn’t feel like partying was the only way to have fun… Boy was I wrong.

    - Lonely McLonely Pants

  1534. UNI IS SUCH BS!!!!!. its unreal how suk ass it is……waste of money, time, i dont wana be reading, researching ever. DoNT GO TO UNI!!!!! there is more to life then dissertations and doing wak broke ass assigments….just go to the professors” those that can DO!!!! those that cant TEACH!!!!

  1535. Wanna be successful in life? Don’t go to University!

  1536. I’m almost finished wasting the previous three years of my life – and about to start a fourth…

    …maybe things would be better for me if I didn’t go to a commuter satellite campus in a degenerate suburb, far from friends lost, and surrounded by a social norm that is alien to all with which I was raised.

    …maybe things would be better for me if I didn’t settle for the “only major I found do-able”, in a school dominated by science courses and the maths alike.

    …maybe things would be better for me if I was actually working towards a “dream” or “goal”, of which university would help to enhance the chances of succeeding.

    …maybe things would be better for me if I didn’t feel like I was wasting my parent’s – and my own – money for tuition and a basement apartment where I schlup night after night, alone and scared of the fate that meets me when exam time comes and I haven’t the slightest bit of understanding of the most basic principles of the course – the material I wasn’t inspired and motivated enough to read for the reasons above.

    Right now I’m simply hoping that my “life will begin” as soon as I can grab my BA and be out of here…

  1537. hey

  1538. I have only been at uni for 8 weeks now and am stuck between loathing uni and loving it. I think a lot of the problem which people havn’t really discussed yet is our pre-existing expectations of what uni will be like.
    Once highschool finishes, something instilled in us (from pop-culture mostly) makes us expect that we will go to uni, form a group like in highschool and the experience will almost be like highschool nut more liberal.
    The dilemma I have faced is how big the university is! I have made friends in all my classes yet for some reason still feel an emptiness in my experience which is making me kinda depressed. For example, I have three great friends which sat next to me in my first Calculus class and we have a great time together every Calculus class. We talk about shit, bitch about the work, make rude dick jokes but while this is all fine and dandy, i dont see them for a whole other week. And when we try to kinda meet up, someone is busy because everyone has different schedules. This is the case for almost every class I have. The lectures have 400-1000 people in them so while it was hard meeting people at first and then seeing them again three weeks later, now I just sit with my ‘subject-buddy’ in the same spot.
    But the point is, there is no group mentality. Or sense of exterior connection.

    AND AND….the only fuckers that have actual groups are people who have come together from high school. And they cling onto eachother like flies on shit.

    The work load, yes while a lot is pointless isnt why im on this site. Rather, it is just how the whole experience just hasnt been what I expected.

    Im the kinda person who likes to have everyone involved. And if i run into a friend i know while with another friend, i will introduce the two. But most fuckers at uni are so blatantly rude (dont know if its a lack of social skills or a selfish, sick contest to who has more friends?) they dont even introduce me to their friends. Like they totally blow you off instead of letting you engage in their conversation. It’s so childish and people are kinda in it for themselves.

    I totally get why people say they meet amazing people, cos i have met so many friendly, hilarious, down-to-earth people. And while there are assholes everywhere you go in life, for some reason at uni, there is aurora of marginalization.

    I didnt expect it and it makes me sad :( Most of it is the result of the uni been too big! My sister goes to a smaller uni (like only 100 in course) and loves it.

    Does anyone else get what i mean? Or am I just been a childish over-dependent bitchtroll?

  1539. Universities are cash cows for the government. Internationals give them revenue and the internationals get PR for worthless piece of paper. Simple as that.

  1540. I am going to be very original here and also say I dislike Uni. But my reasons are different. I am the problem, I know that, I have this driving urge to be the best at everything which is impossible, I spend way too much time studying as I can’t relax when I try and in the end every exam period I drive myself demented trying to learn everything for every topic which is pointless and counter productive but the pure blinding panic i feel coming up to exam time never seems to let up or go away.

    I am an older student, trying to make friends when all everyone else wants to do is go out, get drunk and hook up with random guys/girls is not really my thing. I am extremely lonely over here. I miss my long term boyfriend and friends from home but not as much as at the start of the year which is progress. I am in a foreign country where I don’t know the language and seem to have no hope of learning it, Magyar is pretty complicated and due to my studies I don’t really have time.

    The lecturers don’t speak great english for the international course which is difficult especially for chemistry, having never done it before it is an akward subject to try and muddle through yourself.

    I never thought I would say this but I miss working, I am not sure if being in college full time again is really for me but I will see this through to the end even if it does make me miserable. If I leave now, I leave with nothing and there would be no point in that. I am just feeling frustrated and directionless at the moment. So much to study and not enough hours in the day it seems.

    At least I feel a bit better having gotten this rant out of my system. :)

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  1542. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1467244/pg1

    Consider your future. The world is at a crossroads. When your country runs out of gas, water, food and other vital resources, you will need skills other then the book smarts you learnt while wasting you and your parents time and money. If you want to get ahead, learn some survival skills and trades while you can.

    Also, just look at some of these trolls. They obviously did their time and are now so mad at their lack of a job and their living in their mother’s basement that they type in ‘uni is shit’ in google and then attack posts by people who are actually echoing their own thoughts. It takes guts to admit you wasted years of your life and effort at something worthless. At least have the courage to tell the young ones that.

  1543. Sigh only a month to go and the I end uni forever and then life begins for me again :D

  1544. DISLIKE - just a rant to vent

    Making the choice for uni… WISH I CHOOSE the other uni… deeply regretting choosing a place for the course… I probably shouldn’t say that. The course is great yeah… but the PLACE is so rubbish. I live in a CHAVS’ville at uni its awful! I HATE IT! Thinking to myself the people will make up for it… nope not happened… Its a fashion uni… The people here are so stuck up there own arses I HATE IT… I can’t leave… What with tuition fees going up etc. ( thanks cameron you twat)

    I have made friends… but everyone was quite clique’ey seeing as I got to uni later. Im finding it really difficult as I am 3 and a half hours away from home and not even in a place where I could just go join a society or something to make more friends.

    End of first year has come, and people saying don’t worry you’ll sort it out. I disagree for now seeing as going into second year everyones moving into smaller houses and I’ve ended up with someone random, yeah she is lovely, But hate going out, doesn’t really ever want to do much. I see others at uni and am so envious of there time. To make it worse going home over easter break seeing my old friends… I bigged it up as “I like it”. I don’t even have the heart to tell everyone I HATE it.

    I wish I went to a bigger university.

    ALL I DO IS COUNT DOWN THE DAYS UNTILL I GO HOME FOR SUMMER.

    I just tell myself ” First year has flown by, second and third year will too” well I pray anyway!

  1545. I had the highest average in 1st year best in the year now i feel so bored ive got exams coming up and i don’t give a fuck ? it should not happen I want to be successful. i hope i start 3rd year with passion

  1546. I Hate Sydney Uni 3

    Despite performing well in uni, I must say that I immensely dislike the student experience as it does not cater to everyone- a prominent lack of social inclusion for people from lower socio-economic backgrounds. A lot of the people there seem to give off this feel of elitism and egocentricism, which I immensely dislike. I truly wish to finish the degree as it has been HORRIBLE.

  1547. this is horse shit

    i go to queens university. i fucking HATE school. im sitting here, doing so gay ass assignment that i dont care about. why am i doing it????

    so ive been thinking,
    i dont give a rats ass about my education. fuck school, its not making me better, and i dont need it to be happy in life
    the ONLY reasons that i am here is because i enjoy the social life and meeting new people
    And
    the ONlY reason i try to pass is so i dont piss my parents money down the drain,

    and that doesnt make sense, at all
    FUCK

  1548. i just got the same essay mark back as someone who only put in 4 studies as evidence and blatantly didnt even fucking try. The worst thing it’s obvious that they put a sloppy effort into it in comparison to the essay i spent months on, which had tons of evidence, was extremely well thought out and critically argued. welcome to the world of uni.

  1549. I fucking love uni! All I do is get pissed and smoke weed and I get loads of free grant money from the government to do it with! I barely have any lectures and my course is a piece of piss (I do music production).

    I’m coming to the end of my first year and I’ve made some amazing friends here, maybe I just got lucky but I love university life.

  1550. ^^Dude has bigger issues than he knows.

  1551. isch mag uni sehr.

  1552. uni @ melbourne... zzzz

    languages aside of course. language courses are ace at university level.

    my course being business.. is boring as all shit.
    swallowing a textbook and memorising all 60 pages per subject per week is certainly not my idea of fun.
    besides by the time i finish the course, the laws have probably changed… and… yeah.
    no practical side of it either, i don’t learn by textbook — reading a chapter, attending a lecture on said chapter that just reiterates it, getting the answers to the chapter questions in the tutorial….yeah no.
    might be a reasonable approach for some, but i’m not one of ‘em.

    i’m a first year and i’m deferring come next semester.
    i can’t concentrate unless i’m downing 2 blocks of chocolate a day. or drinking a 2L bottle of softdrink (as my radiology friend does for concentration, or 6 cups of coffee as my biomed friend does.)

    i haven’t had time to join any societies or clubs in trying to keep up with the fucking boring as shit workload. 4 hours travel per day for me. hardly time for a social life, and then there’s the study required. and the stupid group assignment. i thought it was independent work?! the result of the stupid group work meant
    1. i wrote the whole fucking assignment because my partner was a 3rd year international who had a horrendous grasp of writing in english and didn’t have a clue, and wouldn’t contact me until the last week before the assignment was due.
    2. snobby people i just didn’t want to deal with.

    there’s also that uni offers all these services, yet has no logical way of contacting any of them. i once booked in to see a lecturer, and he didn’t even show up??

    just ranting; i’ll be gone by the end of semester, as will my friend.
    he’s awfully unhappy about his classmates, and i can’t stand the way they expect us to learn.

    it’s fucking with my health and sleep patterns, and his mental state.

  1553. I actually love uni soooo much (as a bed) that in the first week i slept in every lecture, then realized i could skip everything but pracs. best idea as a biomed student, skip allll the info, so far im averaging D’s in everything. some how, the fact that a student who dosen’t attend any classes and yet can average a distinction says alot about the whole, you have to be here to learn theory, all attending uni did was mess up my sleep patterns, destroy my social life, and made me an all round shit person. kudos. and to think i turned down a high paying job to study.

  1554. BTW, I’m the biomed friend mentioned two posts up, and i dont drink 6 cups of coffee a day, i have 3, each the equivalent of 6 o.O

  1555. from a uni in sydney

    I cannot stand linguistics. Anyone second me? I feel so stupid not being able to decipher the morphemes (units of meaning) of every word in a native american language? I feel so lousy right now. I feel like i should not even go to a university in the first place. Only in year 1.

  1556. It’s good to see 5 years of complaints.

    GAH! Hate my course, have a 2 hour multiple choice exam tomorrow on biology, sociology and psychology. Fuck it – I don’t even want to be a nurse any more!! Haven’t revised at all, don’t intend to – will it end up in me killing someone on a ward?? Will it fuck. You need to be smart, personable and have a good head for mathematics. The rest is bollocks, and now I’m sat here wasting 3 years of my life on a course to satisfy faceless bureaucrats who insist nurses ‘need degrees’.

    The fun part is that when I finish my course I can’t do ANYTHING until I get a job and do all their training courses. I’m actually more qualified and competent in a Health Care Assistant role than I am a Student Nurse. I’m not even allowed to give injections.

    FUCK YOU GOVERNMENT!!!

  1557. Ahh that felt good and I feel better.

    Aside from that I am LOVING the social side of uni life!

    =D

  1558. I cant truthfully say that I “hate” University, but I have wondered whether University hates me…. or is culpably indifferent, preoccupied, or overpriced.

    However, on reading this back, it does sound as though University has enhanced my critical faculties, and I’m decidedly enjoying the freedom to do jobs that I could not understand before I took the course.

    Now then, where is my gratitude… hang on, it was right there next to my reasonably-balanced-finances and my fairweather-friends, no wait, I’m sure I had them here, oh no, it looks like they’ve gone…gone forever… arrgh, I hate university.

  1559. I love this website, it reminds me that I am sane and that I am not the only one who thinks that uni is SHIT.
    The lecturers are uninspiring and often leave me wondering if they were even educated themselves. I can’t believe that I’m paying all these tuition fees to sit and be bored to death in lectures which are pointless and teach me nothing at all except thinking of how many ways I could escape the room.
    We are given zero support, which I begrudge as after all, our fees are keeping them in a job. Assignments are hoop jumping activities and that is all…they have no relevance to professional development or how to be an effective teacher (I’m training to be a teacher by the way). I mean my ICT assignment was to design a poster, as clearly that will help me become a good teacher!! Wtf.
    Also, I have never met such pretentious people in my life who in actual fact have the brain capacity of a fried chip.
    The only thing uni has given me is stress. I have constant work to do and not enough hours in a day to do it, let alone do anything that I actually enjoy doing. I can’t wait to leave.
    I’m under no delusions that work is a piece of cake but at least I’ll actually be doing something that I’m passionate about doing rather than all this pointless crap.

  1560. I hate that everyone says “YOU NEED UNI! IF YOU DON”T THEN YOU ARE F-G LOSER!”.
    So tired that many people actually believe this s-t.
    And when I say that I am not happy at university, many people think I am “weirdo who is destined to be a … (any job that you consider unfortunate)”.
    wtf…

  1561. I had straight A’s on all my papers, homework, and projects for one particular upper level class. The professor was very poor, she merely would photocopy pages of the book she assigned and read them out loud to us for an hour and a half. Many students would just talk through the entire class, and sometimes she would cry and talk about how she didn’t feel “strong” enough to tell them to shut up because it was her first time teaching a college class. I tried to deal with it and go because I felt bad for her and once in a while she would show us interesting videos, but it got to the point where I could barely hear her over everyone’s conversations, and the last class I went to, one chick got up and answered her phone, leaned on the door chatting for ten minutes while the prof attempted to talk over her, then left and came back with food from a restaurant in the student commons area, then proceeded to eat and chat on the phone while sitting directly in front of my prof, who said nothing. I stopped attending class after that day and instead turned in my assignments to her office. Despite straight A’s in everything, I received a C- for the course. She said she would have failed me for simply not attending the circus that was her class, except that I had straight A’s and her department heads would have investigated. This is what I pay 10,000 a year for.

  1562. Spent half a year in uni and don’t know why. The course sucked. I didn’t meet any1 and just 2 rub salt in the wound, they said ‘if u had quit 4 weeks earlier, we would of given you some of your money back’. U know what, GO FUK URSELVES!!!

  1563. I hate university, because when it was time to go to university, I got this severe depression and social anxiety. When I was in high school, I didn’t have any social anxiety and felt better about myself.

  1564. I dont understand why these people at uni expect jobs on a plate, i dont know why they think a social status in a society makes them higher than those who have grown out of drinking till you puke.

    I came here wide eyed and positive i leave confused jaded and bored.

    I am so glad many people have had the same experience as i thought it was just me. i am lucky that i ahve made a few very decent friends and i am lucky i have a job to go into but honestly i am so fucking glad i finish today and will never have to entertain this bollocks again.

    thanks for cheering me up

  1565. I don’t understand why people defend the ‘University/College years are the best years of your life” crap? I mean, it might be so for SOME people, but everyone’s different. For me, high school years were a lot better. And for many people the years AFTER university are better than university itself.

  1566. High school was so much better! The teachers there were not as bad as university professors. I also had friends. And I didn’t suffer from chronic depression and chronic social anxiety.

  1567. Cambridge Student

    Ok, here I am. Studying for course I hate, no career prospects, alone, tired, out of shape and jaded with the whole university thing. I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but university life here just isn’t great. A coherent argument may be beyond me since I haven’t slept more than six hours in over a month, so I’ll simply put up my illustrative story.

    I came from a ‘non-traditional’ background before I went to Cambridge, and had never had to work hard to get good grades, but once I got the offer of a place I worked my arse off to get the grades I needed; even taking a few extra A-levels. I worked hard, but I still found time from my friends, playing football, going out, or going to the gym with them most days. I felt great. My confidence was up, never been fitter, my grades were top of the school, I was popular, and I’d finally got out of the awkward stage with girls (standard teenager). Then I went to Cambridge.

    Truth be told I only chose my course (Natural Science) because it had better application statistics than what I wanted to do (Land Ec – Cambridge speak for ‘Finance’). I’d heard the rumours that this was the most intense course in the country, but I thought that was due to the lazy, negative, workshy students we always hear about. Anyway, I was convinced I could deal with the workload if I managed my time properly and didn’t go crazy with the extra-curriculars.

    Work takes priority over play for me, I wouldn’t have it any other way, but here it’s different. Once you decide you’ve done enough for the day, you’ll find yourself on your own. No-one else will have finished and the college bar will be empty. As I write this my college library is filled to capacity with those still working. Figuring this would be the case, I joined the judo club and the football team for my R&R in freshers’ week, but the six-day week operated by Natural Sciences meant I could never attend practices, and even when I could I was amazed by how poor the provisions for sports are here. Our university weight room is the size of my bedroom, and can hold five of us at a squeeze.

    Teaching is non-existent here. Lectures are pretty much as you’d expect, but good ones are in the minority by some way, and the line ‘you’re Cambridge students, I’m not going to spoon-feed you’ is used to justify the terrible ones. Instead, we use supervisions to learn; where ‘leading academics will talk you through the material in a one-on-one environment’. What we get is either someone from the year above, or a postgraduate who did their undergraduate degree at Strathclyde Uni (no offense intended) and is therefore painfully unaware of the content of the course or the workload we’re up against here. Scheduling is an afterthought for these people; some classes are scheduled for 8-9pm even in first year, and my second term was characterised by 9am-9.30pm Saturdays. My maths supervisor was excellent, but found himself hamstrung by the higher-up’s adherence to tradition. He almost got sacked for giving us sample questions with answers so we could practice ourselves later. Apparently learning in this way is not ‘challenging enough for undergraduate minds’. They’d much rather you work endlessly with no idea whether you’re getting it right or not.

    The only outlet appears to be from drinking societies, or one of the two nightclubs in town. Don’t get me wrong, getting horrendously drunk *is* my idea of fun, but finding the company to enjoy this with is hard here. More often than not, you go with who’s available rather than who you want. Even more often than not the people in these societies are the stereotypical, empty-headed rugby lads and social-climber girls. These outings dramatically decline after freshers, hitting zero in exam term (the University petitions the clubs to close) and by third year no-one bothers to go out anymore.

    The friends I’ve made here will be friends for life, but it has been hard watching each other go through all this. Finding anti-depressants in my best-friend’s overnight bag, watching the girls go anorexic, seeing the wide-eyed, sparky characters from freshers turn into wrecks, racked with feelings of self doubt (we’re marked relative to each other for the first two years on the science courses, meaning it is extremely possible to work 60 hour weeks and still be average). Watching as the tutors try expel my friend after he failed two of his five exams after (his best-friend had committed suicide a few weeks previously) brought my appreciation for humanity to an all time low.

    Relationships are non-starters, and I haven’t been able to sustain one for more than a two months in my time here. The 8-week terms and the fact you have to go home outside term (my college has three-year accommodation) means you’ll be apart more than you’ll be together. Your holidays are spent revising or writing dissertations (no matter how good at time management you are), so it isn’t easy to sustain a relationship at home either.

    Personally, what bothers me the most is the fact that obviously unhappy people here pretend they feel otherwise. I’ve had supervision partners (male and female) break down in tears in the middle of the night swearing blind they have no interest in the course and just want to leave, only to suck it up in front of their supervisor. That being said, there are many people who genuinely do love their course here, and good luck to them. The problem is when you find yourself in a room filled with folks whose idea of fun is organising an unofficial field trip in the middle of the after-exam parties.

    Yes, I know. The obvious thing to do for me would be to change course. I’ve tried. Three times. Last year I was 0.2% below the 2:1 threshold (a real kick in the teeth considering we’re marked relative to our peers on this course, unlike, say, PPS where the vast majority get 2.1s and above in their first two years).

    Sigh… it’s getting late. There’s a lot more I could rant about, namely the idiots who involve themselves in student politics. At least in two weeks I can venture out into the real world, hopefully get a job and start building a life for myself. The main lesson I’ve taken away from this is that mixing a strong work ethic with something you’re just not into is a miserable thing if you’re on the Natural Sciences course.

  1568. Apart from the quality of education being severely lower than what I had been expecting from supposedly one of the best university’s in the country (Australia), the biggest thing that’s getting me down about uni is the people. They’re douche bags. It’s like being back in high school, and where I’m from high school is 7-10. I had to move states to go to this university and it’s like no one here apparently grew up.
    Where I’m from you go to years 11 & 12 at a separate school, and adults were saying that that’s where it’s hard work, and once you’re into uni it’s just easy. Wrong. College (11-12 for us) was the best time of my life. The people around me had actually begun to stop being immature teenagers and the education was great. Yet I was still looking forward to uni where the opportunities and education were (supposedly) even better.
    I’m just finishing my first semester and I’m so overwhelmed with disappointment it makes me feel ill on a daily basis.
    It’s not that I hate uni for the studying. I’m not stupid, I know that’s what it’s for. I studied hard for my entry score and I got 97, and I would happily continue to work my arse off if I actually felt it was getting me somewhere and I was really progressing with my education. But it’s hard to be motivated when you came from a school in a semi-rural town that had an incredibly higher standard for education than a major university in a state capital city.
    And everyone around me obviously hated uni from the start! As in, they couldn’t care less for higher education regardless. Which is what makes me feel like I’m back in high school. What the hell are they doing here if they obviously don’t care for uni or education? I know that here I am saying that I hate uni, but I actually very much looked forward to further exploring and expanding my academic life, I continue to hope for that one day.
    I hate uni, but it’s not because I object to the very nature of it. I actually LOVE learning. I hate it because right now it feels like the last place that is going to offer me any advancement in that passion.

  1569. Just coming to the end of my first year at university and it hasn’t really lived up to my expectations (not sure what exactly those are, but something close to the ‘norm’ of university life).

    I like my course, not loving the pure Chemistry aspects (what did I expect from Biochemistry?!) but feeling I will enjoy next years modules much more. The university (no names) isn’t bad, but isn’t great – the usual, marks take forever to get back to you, badly organised departments and not knowing what the f*** is going on sometimes in terms of practicals, rooms/times, exams.

    I absolutely hate living in student accommodation. Everything seemed great at first; I got along with everyone in my flat, made a couple of good friends. Then things went downhill… My friendship group split apart, I fell out with one of my best friends (she went to my sixth form as well as same uni and accommodation building – weird coincidence) over the fact I got a scholarship, when in fact she got one too and I told her how to apply (stupid cow lol). Then 2 of my flatmates left to be replaced by two girls, one is absolutely horrible (orange, bleached, smoking, druggy, loud, obnoxious drunk bimbo) and the other girl is a bit of a sheep to the orange abomination. I’ve only made one good friend on my course as most people already seemed to be the best of friends and after that you just feel you’re invading! Oh the flat above is always loud despite complaints, my bathroom is covered in mould and my room is like a sauna… Just to make things more depressing. I feel so out of place. I like going out every now and again but not every night. I’m not interested in ‘pulling’ as I’m engaged anyway and 99% of the men here are idiots anyway.

    I’ve tried getting involved with the Art Society but it was so poorly organised and when I went, there were different people everytime so I had to try and make new friends everytime! I want to get involved in something next year but I’m unsure of my living arrangements, which is the real problem.

    Now I’m at the end of my first year, I haven’t got anyone to live with next year as I’d find it weird living with my flatmate friend by ourselves (course friend already sorted with a house next year) as I’m worried we’ll fall out or I’d end up hating her as I like my own space! I know I’m going to miss my fiancé like crazy again living away next year so I’ve considered living with him back in my home town and commuting next year, but I’m worried I’ll burn out as Biochemistry is a demanding course and I don’t know if I can manage that as well as travelling 3 hours a day, 5 days a week. I’ve also considered doing a house share with some strangers but I’m not keen on the idea especially as I like my own space, peace and quiet and cleanliness – yes fussy I know, but this is how I function best. So, I have 3 options:

    1) Live at home with my fiancé and travel to university everyday.
    2) Find somewhere for myself (like a studio flat) near the university.
    3) Find a house share near my university.

    I need an outsiders opinion because I’m just going mental with worry. I should be revising for my exams right now (one is tomorrow) but I can’t help worrying about the best option for next year. I know I’m annoying my fiancé as well as he doesn’t like me being so indecisive, which is understandable.

    Sorry for the not very well explained problem in essay form! Any opinions would be appreciated :) .

  1570. yea, school creates bullies, thugs, and other rodents that we see in our society. Whenever u depend upon others for education, it is bound to happen.
    distance education is the best if u want to really learn the entire syllabus.
    Moreover, what does Technical or medicine field teach u? It teaches u to destroy our own lives. So hw can u be happy when u hurt urself.

  1571. I remember typing ‘i hate uni’ into my search engine about 6 months ago and found this great thread of mutual hatred for uni which was great when i was hating uni life more than i ever expected.

    I have just completed my first year and am left feeling confused,and slightly underwhelmed. University is nothing like i expected i struggled to make friends in the first few months due to my over clingy housemate who dropped out earlier this year when she developed an eating disorder. As well as this i lost my grandma, my 16 year old cat and broke up with my boyfriend. Sitting in lectures and competing with my stupidly over keen class mates was the last thing i wanted to be doing.

    However, although i hated the uni work, lectures and essays i made the most of the 70,000 students here and forced myself to make some friends. It wasn’t actually long before i found a great group of people who were just as lonely as me, everything started to get better i had a great social life, great friends and even met a great guy! I’ve realised that life is to short to stress out about the shitty deadlines and presentations, I still do the work and put in the effort because i want a great end result but if having a great social life means getting a slightly lower grade, i will take it! There’s nothing worse than being homesick, lonely and depressed. However i feel my slightly lower grade is probably verging on a fail! University is full of pretentious wankers and ignorant lecturers and I’m so thankful I’ve met a handful of great people because they’re the only thing keeping me here!

  1572. I also have Cystic Fibrosis which never really helped towards anything.

  1573. @Laura

    I just read your posts and I feel just like you just like many others. Despite all that it is, all I can say is DO YOUR BEST. Universitry is basically just what you can make out of it. Sometimes, people have less opportunities than other. You probably know this already, but most universities offer various academic accomodations for students with disabilities. If you didn’t know, it could be worth looking at it.

    Very good luck with everything. I’m sure we all will get through this just fine.

  1574. @Laura nice to see your happier i really relate to all you said in alot of ways.

    What i’ve found is in the last few weeks had long talk with my mother about everything and my brother for the last 5 years i’ve been so increibly depressed thats its really affected my health and for 1 and a half of that i was out of university working full time for experience and another 2 sets of 4 months doing the same. I am very capable in all real world practical aspects for many reasons but university is almost entirely all about learning the model anwer to sets of exams.

    Where you spend weeks just learning off paragraphs of theory and absolute shit to throw down all these _model_ answers, which you forget entirely after the exam and do the same thing next time over and over. Its like what are we paying for in student fee’s, if you blindly dont care in university you can do well.

    But you need to be quite dum as a person and be really pretentious and entirely or hugely arrogant in a massive way.

  1575. but the be all and end all is am i happy… and the answer no and in reality its really stupid for me to be so utterly depressed bout this.

    Clearly the people around me havent worked a real job in their life and talk down to us but whats the point in getting annoyed. I just got to the stage where i just dont care but at the same time i may be failing but if it means my health gets alot better and i am happy and i’ve plenty fo my own stuff to fall back on to be fair university was by far the lowest part of my life from when i left home at 18 and i am now 23.

  1576. To @. Thanks for your encouragement I am going to try my best and i am on a course that has been altered to suit my condition. Sometimes my motivation lacks because of my situation but I’m not going to ‘do my worst and flunk out’ that would make the troll incredibly happy though wouldn’t it!

    Good luck to everyone still at uni and good luck for those who dropped out because it wasn’t right for them!

  1577. I am so glad that I found this site – I thought I was the only person who felt this way, it’s good to know that I am not as alone as I thought I was.

    I go to York University in Ontario, Canada. The university is a commuter school with pre-existing cliques. All the Indian people hang out together, all the Asians hang out together, etc…

    I have been here for nearly 2 years and have made no friends – I am polite and friendly but it seems like people don’t want to make friends. It seems as though everyone already has friends and they don’t want anymore – I feel so very lonely.

    During the past two years I have experienced severe depression – this along with a lack of friends and a supportive family has made my condition worse.
    I failed most of my first year classes but now I am back trying once again
    I actually like the school work, the readings, the professors – I love learning and reading, but I hate the people I go to Uni with.

    My loneliness is making me lose interest and it is making me a living zombie.

  1578. May I just say….FUCK THE SYSTEM!

    I’m up writing fucking radio and lecture reflections for an assignment which is already 2 days late. The most fucking useless thing i’ve ever done with my life. Then I’ve got another 5000 words due this week. I can’t believe im paying to suffer through useless tests people make up and call it a ‘unit of study’.

    I’d rather be surfing.

    Fuck. The. System.

  1579. joe in america

    Goddamn it!!! I love you fuckers! you people are amazing. I am in America and I swear, there is the same thing going on here. Hey, we are the future are we not? Why don’t we all RESTRUCTURE the world, we all are obviously unhappy with the way things are, LETS DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. It CAN happen, we just all have to come together and make it happen. Not happy with life? Degree seems like a joke? goddamn it lets change things. please! PLEASE someone respond, who is with me? Lets turn this system and structure upside down, remake it how we want it! We all know so much of life is a frigging bullshit hassle worthless waste of time, lets change it. I think we should organize a new system, one that doesn’t say, “ah…HA….I see you have a degree…you may work here and do this job….” what other way can life be arranged, I want to hear from you!

  1580. joe in america

    I would also like to add this word.

    “REVOLUTION!!!!!!”

  1581. joe in america

    ONE OTHER THING…I MUST ADD I LOVE UNIVERSITY LIFE!!! bet you didn’t see that coming. I am a student at the University of Phoenix in the US. I love my University. It is a dream come true. Every class I take is a completely good use of my time. All the classes I have taken so far are amazing. They are full of useful information I can use in real life. It is a distance learning program so I live away from the actual University. I have class online, which is cool. My class is small, right now we have eight people in our class. The instructors ROCK. My classmates are serious and dedicated. I have no complaints. If you want what I have become a Phoenix.

  1582. University of Phoenix = LOL

    For joe in america

    I don’t want to be an asshole, but the University of Phoenix has been recognized as a diploma mill. Actually, there is noting to be proud at being a student there. Most employers are aware of this and will laugh at you for applying for a job with a degree that you basically purchased. It is great that you enjoy your studies because that’s all you’ll get from them.

  1583. YES! I never understand it when people say how amazing university is!
    I’m currently in my second year studying Journalism and Media Studies and I have one more year to go. Yet I’m struggling to find the motivation to finish the last year. I don’t want to fail and look back and maybe regret (if i leave uni) not finishing the last year. Only next year its the ten thousand work dissertation along with all the other work too! Sounds unbearable! There are so many things I hate about uni .. the money you pay for tuition fees is ridiculous, the lectures in my uni are rubbish, our subject area doesn’t get handbooks anymore we have to print everything out, costing us money, so the uni can save money, I haven’t really made any new friends, a few.. but most of them seem quite posh and ‘pre-drinks’ and stuff. I hate the fact the some assignments are what I have done before in college they have just over complicated things, and sucked out all the fun. For what I want to do when I leave uni, most of the things we do seem irrelevant and sometimes I think if I was to leave, get a job in a shop or something, and do the work I want to do on the side for free (which I am already doing) build up lots of work experience, this may lead me to the job I want. After all Uni doesn’t guarantee a job anymore anyway.

  1584. joe in america

    hey, wait a minute, show me some proof that the University of Phoenix is a diploma mill. What credible source or organization or standard says the University of Phoenix is a diploma mill? I was worried that that might be the case, but the people at the University of Phoenix said it was not a diploma mill, of course they wanted my money so they had the incentive to lie, but still, I would like some kind of proof that I am wasting my money. I am going to make some phone calls to various companies I might apply to for a job when I graduate and ask them if they would hire someone with a degree from the University of Phoenix. I really hope it isn’t a diploma mill because I really like it and fell like for the first time in my life I actually “like” school.

  1585. University of Phoenix = LOL

    To joe in america

    Any institution that publicly appears as for-profit is considered as such by most employers for obvious reason, but mainly because of the way it is administered. You see, most non-profit institutions must follow sets of particular standards that are equally shared among themselves. However, with for-profit ones, they don’t. Actually, there have been many cases in which that particular University had to respond to. A simple search on Google will be enough for you to realize how many of them there are. Of course, it is normal that an institution must respond to complaints, but it’s not normal when you see the ammount of them with this university.

    I’m not saying that you are not receiving education of quality. However, what you learn won’t be as much recognized as if you had graduated from a non-profit college.

    I think a lot of people primarily enroll to this particular university because they offer distance education. A lot of people need to work on their own schedule, which is good. Unfortunately, that particular school offers credits for ‘life experience’. No legitimate institution would offer such a thing without having to demonstrate it through a test or an exam. Right there is the scam.

  1586. THE KID WHO DROPPED OUT OF UNI

    Ok lets get this straight. i dropped out of uni after two weeks and i am just gonna let everyone knownbefore they start saying yeah we can see you dropped out of uni after seeing your terrible to you people go fuck yourself this webpage is lagging like hell and i am not going to right a perfect coheherent piece of text so one person can read it four years on from when i wrote the damn thing. Tis is how i boil uni down it is only good for suitable people by suitable people i meaN people who are right in all categories. 1 have alot of money ( idid not have alot of money) 2 . are doing a course they actively enjoy all classes ALL CLASSes and have a good timetable and do not have to travel like a fucking monkey to get ther 3. They have friends and are able to make friends easily. and 4 are in somewhat realise what the course will get them and whre they want to be in life you see i basically ticked off all these boxes and to say the least i did not enjoy uni at all i had probably 3 friends maxium who i did not see after i quit uni and my tim=etable sucked monkey fuck. UNi was putting me in a bad state of mind to the put where i actively thought and said to people yes said to people that there was going to be anopthner virginia tech soon if i did not leave and i do believe something would of happened if i had stayed their for the full four years wheter or not it be a fight or serious murder i do not known esd this with caution and realise just becaus eyou drop out of uni its not so bad at the current time of writing this a few months after dropping out i dont have a permanent job and no direction in my life and have not seen any of my old mates for awhile but wen i think abpout going back to that same course i actively have thoughts of being sick thats how bad it was for me i hated the god damn place it was immature and it seemed as if all the arseholes were the ones who were getting ahead.

  1587. HaterofTheUniversity

    I really am starting to hate uni. I have a lot of life experience and I’m about 27 with some professional experience behind me. I truly find it so draining. I’m wondering about the relevance and also the worth of grabbing a piece of paper so I can get a better job without being rejected from jobs despite my experience. I’m over the pretentious lecturers, the time consumption and the cliques of uni life.
    I have a partner, I work part-time and travel nearly 2 hours to uni and back and 1 hour to work and back. Ive neglected my health a little and have lost weight and lost muscle tone dealing with the heavy study load.
    what shits me more is when i hear some friends that work for recruitment agents, say is that they would hire someone with experience and a degree!!!! Do you have any idea how many people knock you back for a relevant job in your first and second year? And I’m not talking about an internship. Some of these employees don’t even consider your month or two of internship as EXPERIENCE! its just society that’s fucked!

    I have near to no friends yet at uni, and for any group assignments I’m usually paired with bitches that expect me to do all the work.
    what real world tactics do you really get taught at uni?

    maybe I am disgruntled and things will get better in my 2nd year. However if it doesn’t im seriously considering deferring. too much work load, my concentration is not good. Maybe i just hate my course, but that’s all I was offered… that’s all the uni assholes thought i was worthy of. Little wonder people fucken lie on there resumes more than ever before.

    Hate uni!!!!!

  1588. HaterofTheUniversity

    My professional experience doesn’t match my course as such. My course wasn’t my first choice…it was one of my last. And it was the only one the fuckers offered me, so I felt obligated to do it. Fucken hate uni. Bill gates dropped out of the fucken 7th grade or something???
    look how rich that bastard is now. because he dedicated himself to something he loves and wants to know inside out. He made the rules…he didn’t let society dictate to him what the rules were. Unfortunately… we all arnt privileged enough to do or find what we love.
    Uni only suits the privileged. the ones that get the best timetable, that have the money behind them, that are doing the course they want and love and was there first choice and who have a good circle of friends. sorry!

  1589. great website. fuck university. getting the next flight out of here, going overseas

  1590. if university life is so awful, go and do something else and stop bloody wasting our time, you dull drab people

  1591. I’m really sick and tired of living in this flat. Atm I’m living with a really horrible person, whom I never want to meet again, really. I’m tired of her constantly breaking and damaging things in communal areas, and going round upsetting everybody, thinking its all gravy. She seems to think she can treat me like utter dog shit and think she deserves for me to be her best friend. What kind of a person is that?
    The way she treats people, myself included, especially her girl friend disgusts me. It really does. Its depressing all the damage she has caused and the thought we may have to all pay out for her. This was once a nice flat. Before when I have reasonably tried to bring up the damage, she starts hurling personal insults which is depressing. Its a new level of a void of any emotional maturity. Much like a spoilt little child who always gets what they want. Instead of being concerned when I wasnt speaking to her after her spinning a web of lies, breaking most of the flat doors and just being insulting and making damage issues personal issues, instead of being concerned she was angry as if she has a divine right for me to always be her friend, no matter how badly she treats me or anyone else for that matter. That actually made me angry- how a person can be like that. On top of all this, possibly costing me a fuck load of money which I wont know about until the end of next month, she deliberately ensured that I only had 3 hours sleep for an exam I was already concerned about- despite being clearly asked 3 times to turn the music down.
    This has to be the ultimate in selfishness. This is all supposedly ‘revenge’ for me asking her to please stop breaking stuff, or please fix it. This is just nasty immaturity. This person seriously needs to grow up. And the worst thing is, I’m not talking about some 18 year old fresher. Im talking about a supposed 21 year old woman. Asking someone to fix what they have broken is not being personal, or insulting, it may become annoying having to ask the 3rd, 4th or 5th time because it never gets fixed, but not once does it get made into a personal issue, with attacks on someone’s character.
    You have to have a very warped personality to see someone asking you politely to fix something you have broken for the second time as a personal character attack. The saddest thing is, she thinks I’m just asking her to fix it to be petty, when in actual fact, I just want her to fix all the shit load of damage she’s done. I’m only asking a second time because its been left for literally months, and I’m not being rude about it. although many of my friends have said to me that I’m damn well within my rights to be at this stage, if I wanted to.
    This person believes that they are the more mature, however I have never once made these issues personal, as they often have by creating these character assassinations, out of the blue as often and disappointingly they do. The emotional maturity of this person varies from extremely low to almost non-existent. It is a very warped personality, and I cant mix with people like that, because their personality is just toxic.
    I still have final bills to sort out with this person, although they’d rather just be petty than wait til when bills will actually be due, which isnt actually until 16th July, when we move out, 4 weeks away. I really wish they werent in charge of bills. Such a responsibility doesnt really seem fitting of such a person, and I need to see an actual copy of the bills before I can pay them to know that they are not estimates. This person will love having contact with me the next couple of times, over the next 4 weeks when the bills are due, this is how desperate they are to remain in contact with me, but I just dont want anything more to do with them. I cant wait until 16th July, when they are finally out of my life forever. Praise fucking be. I guess if worst comes to worst I can always contact the lettings agency and say that I wont be paying the bills unless she sends them over an actual copy for me to see.

  1592. I totally agree with all the above comments.

    Most of my high-school friends all seem to be scattered in one Uni so it’s easy for them to connect but I, on the other hand is stuck at uni with no one. It is difficult to make friends in a mentally- challenged place. As much as you want to talk to someone next to you, it takes guts.

    I’ve gone through a whole Semester and still haven’t made any friends. The reason? Because I’m stuck at a lecture hall with 500+ students. Even if I do ‘make a friend’, it’s hard to find them in a lecture.

    I really miss my high school years, when I was with my real friends. University has just made me depressed.

  1593. University sucks big time, teachers/professors don’t care, they just come for the money, reading off boring dot pointed powerpoint slides which most of the time they don’t even know what they’re talking about because they didn’t even make it. In uni friends are more like acquantainces, people you see for like a day or two and never see them again and wants to add you on facebook.

    Oh and don’t get me started on assignments and essays, what are they really for, improve our knowledge true but when you’ve tried your hardest to write something and the teacher writes not good enough or demeaning students by telling them they’re always wrong and won’t tell them what is right because they don’t even know the answer.

    Plus the 12 weeks of bs, which includes boring lectures and tutorials and a final which is bloody huge in marks, my previous 60% for a final is totally stupid and the criteria was to pass the finals to actually pass the course.

    This is my 2-3rd year and i just want to finish this degree, the whole atmosphere and the juggling between work, studies and social is just killing me. I rather just drop everything pack my bags and go for trip lost in the woods for 2 years, even that I think has more meaning to my life than being university at the moment.

  1594. Well it felt like a lifetime but its finally over uni life for me, my stress is almost gone, I have my freedom back, I don’t have to see those stuck up tutors again, no more getting ready for uni only to find out that the class is either running late or its been canceled last minute, no more having tutors being disorganised and best of all I can produce work the way I want to produce it and having such dumb sugguestions what makes a piece of art and going completly off the subject, my art my way, oooh almost forgot LIFE IS GOOD since leaving uni :D

  1595. If you read my comments they have a really naive slant to them.

    I don’t understand this of course, all I know about the world is that people seem conceeded and smarter than me.

    But the unfortunate reality of my situation is that all this pressure that I’ve been too stupid to realize is my own responsibility to tackle, is NOT going to go away after graduation, which makes this site a complete waste of time and a good thing to consult in the future to see how stupid I’ve been.

    While university graduates have a better chance of getting a decent job eventually, it doesn’t come without years of hard work, and given my having to over-rely on tutors and my self-defense mechanism which blames university for all my woes, getting out in the real world is going to be the real depressing thing.

    So welcome to my shitty life! It’s only just begun! (I know you could care less but still I’m going to pretend I know what I’m talking about even when every word I type digs me in a bigger hole of idiocy!)

  1596. Wow so many people that agree. I could not believe just how blagging the people were on my course. Having to spend like 35 hours with them a week, most of which was practicals with them is ABSOLUTE HELL.
    How do they condense such strange people into one small place!??
    People who when i never want to “come out with them” call me a waste man, and when there’s no-one else in your life and you realise you’re finding some sort of relief by just locking yourself in your room away from it all with some game or tv then being called a wasteman can really eat at your self belief.

    God fucking knows the reason i want to do my course, its a great idea to get into preserving the environment, its beneficial for the world and my own happiness.

    The sheer lack that people give a shit gets to me more and more every day. Slyly probing to see how many people have a “its not my problem” attitude towards things like 3rd world poverty and the environment is really making me lose faith in the world.

    WE ARE BEING HONED INTO WORKER BEES.

    I realised in my 1st year that as things got worse and worse the reason i wasnt making friends was because id never perfected the art of being fake. I’ve spent pretty much my whole life quite content and happy. im 21 and have had 3 relationships that add up to about 3 years in total so obviously not hard to spend time with and have had friends my whole life and never struggled until uni.

    I realised it was because i find it incredibly hard to act in a different way to how i feel. Apparently i missed out on honing how to fake it skills and now the desperate catch up is destroying my soul as i see through it all and wonder

  1597. AAAAHHHH! I just quit High school as an early leavers to do an undergraduate through Online Universities. I thought it would be great!

    F*CK!. Why did I leave school! Because I hated the dumb dim witted dicks in my High School classes who were as slow as F*CK!, who couldn’t do shit!, and most of all were holding me back.

    So I decided to leave and go to a University to find “like minded folk”. F*CK!. Its filled with middle aged, Fresh-mans, cocky professors an d 59 year old nobodies whose ship has sailed long ago in life, who think doing online courses will help them “find themselves” with their TOWERING F*CKING INTELLECT!

    Intellect isn’t a degree! Its common sense! Thought! Philosophising about life! Helping people around you! Making sure you are the best you can be to your fellow humans! Not F*CKING ABOUT writing about doctrines which millions of humans have already broken to pieces!

    F*CK!. University is all so fake, so dumb, so pointless. I just want to get a Full time job and learn physical life skills which will actually make me a better person! And HEY, if I want to learn, I CAN BUY F*CKING BOOKS FROM THE F*CKING LIBRARY!, instead of writing F*CKING THESIS’S ON JACK SH*T!!

    *cooling down*

    When I’m 20, what will I say I accomplished? F*CK! An F*CKING undergraduate in a F*CKING subject I will NEVER F*CKING use!

    *sigh*
    Well, I’m going to wing my first units: not study, and switch to a better degree next study period. I’m thinking Mathematics and Physics, since it has always been my strength. I was brilliant in High school Maths and Physics, but I left to do Politics and now all of a sudden I feel so completely useless.

    *second sigh*
    Thanks people, though I doubt not all will read this since there are thousands of posts on this page already, but its just good to know people feel the same way.

    *second sigh*
    Thanks for being like minded with me…

  1598. I HATE UNI LIFE.
    Been there, done that, and I’m finally out of university!

  1599. I HATE UNIVERSITY TOO…..i want to be in the movie business but im too ugly and i a live in the Arab world so i will never reach Hollywood…..so i played it safe and i’m studying Chemical and Pharmaceutical Engineering…..I’M SO MISERABLE….actually i’m studying a major my dad chose for me…. Ppl. i’m surrounded by r so happy in uni. for i don’t know what reason….i hate this shitty feeling of being trapped……lucky the ppl. who first posted they r over with uni…… i finished 74 credit hours and still have 99 credit hours to go (3 years)…..if anyone 4 or 5 years in the future reads this send me a message to remind me how desperate frustrated and miserable i was ……thnx

  1600. hello, i am preparing to start university for the first time so this is all very encouraging. despite the overwhelming negativity on here, i have found some reasuurance in Beth’s comment at the very top of the page. I wonder where Beth is now. Beth, if your out there, drop a comment, let us all know how you are.
    by the by, WoW is rude, i dont think most of the people on here are as ‘dumb as rock’, nevertheless, a very interesting simile.

    Any advice for me with regards to doing uni?

    S P. Punch Drunk Love, good film.

  1601. Rose Byrne, tut, i meant Boyle.

  1602. McMaster sucks

    McMaster University sucks ass. I hate University. FUUUUUUUCK. :@

  1603. o and i didnt write any of my comments on a word programme, i resent the accusation.

  1604. I welcome the idea of having a ‘downfall’, it would give me something to do. And if I am cocky, then you are a control freak.

  1605. Despaired student

    Hello and thanks for this great site. I’ve found it by typing on Google “I hate university”. I’m from Bulgaria and I’m a student in what’s supposed to be “the best” university here. I’ve been there for two years so far and I could say without hesitation that it’s horrible. Many people that have finished their university education told me that these years are the best in your life, but for me it has been a nightmare. I also had some complaints when I was at school, but university is much, much worse. I was one of the best students in my school, here I hardly pass my exams. These two years turned me into a complete idiot. My self-esteem is totally ruined. The lecturers don’t give a shit about you and I didn’t even make a single new friend. Maybe the first year was a little bit better, but it looks like it will be getting worse when you advance. I have no idea how I’m going to graduate, since I have THREE more years of this crap. I thought that when you study hard at school, university will be a lot easier for you, but I was completely wrong. Here, if you want to succeed, you will barely have time to go out. I am awfully sorry for listening to what other people say about university and for deciding to study here. I would never go into this hell if I knew how bad it is.

    My advice to everyone who is considering going to university, no matter where are you from, is to research everything in the place you are going to study (lecturers, syllabus, exams) and think very carefully if you really want to go through this. Unfortunately, I didn’t and now I’ll have to face the consequences.

  1606. Wow.
    After reading most of these comments I don’t feel so alone. I’m 19 just failed my first year at uni because my course was absolute shit. Music production is amazing but my uni in Cardiff (being from London I don’t know why the fuck I went there) was bollocks. It was run so bad that my year was the last before they pulled out on funding the course which means I couldn’t re-take even if I wanted to as it wouldn’t exist next year.

    I tried my best but after a while working part-time and having an amazing social life I just gave the fuck up and started to enjoy myself. I am so glad i went to university, the things i have experienced the people I have met changed the person I was. I’ve even got a boyfriend and were pretty fucking serious. I’m actually going all the way to North Wales to have a mini holiday with him. UNI ISN’T A WASTE OF TIME. Enjoy it, don’t work too hard unless your happy. There is no point. I’m now looking for an apprenticeship or even work exp. in the music industry. IF YOUR NOT SURE ABOUT UNI TRY IT…I INSIST. It’s a time where you find out who you really are and you never know.. you could have amazing new relationships that shape the person you want to become!

  1607. I hate uni… i have somehow managed to complete my first years and have another 21/2 years by the time i finish i tink am going to look super old bcz of all the stressing am like 23 an gna finish at 25!!! i want to have a degree to my name and just something to fall back on when i start my creative carreer.

  1608. Wow, can’t believe how many people feel the same as me. I literally am so depressed right now and have been crying so much over Uni that I literally want to vomit.
    I finally got the balls to tell my parents I hate uni and sent them the following:

    To Mom and Dad,

    I hate university, I’m so tempted to jump off my balcony or run away and never talk to anyone again, just move somewhere where no-one knows me.
    All I want to do is be a writer, I wish that was enough for you, I don’t want some fancy ass job, I don’t care about lots of money, I just want to do what I like to do and be happy and that isn’t science. I have been miserable for years and you don’t even know how much because you don’t understand, you don’t ask or care, you just push me.
    It doesn’t help that the teachers are not in sync and failed me on an assignment… a 7.5 OUT OF 20!!! The lecturer told me to do one thing, and the lady who marked the assignment doesn’t teach us and failed me because I did it wrong even though the lecturer told me what to do, that pushed me over the edge today, I am usually very good in class, and listen to every word, I was so depressed I wanted to cry and couldn’t pay attention at all (and yes, I talked to the lecturer, but I still doesn’t help when I feel like utter crap still and want to die).
    And society wonders why so many youths commit suicide, well… I’ll give them 1 guess and it starts with a U.
    I haven’t gotten a decent night’s sleep in years because of this shit, it’s just stress, stress and more stress and what am I going to get out of it? A degree for something I hate and never want to do again, there are so few jobs in forensic science, and in this country, you pretty much have to be a damn cop to get into working in crimes. I can’t move to America and get a job, I have no green card, I can’t afford a visa, this is all for nothing, I will just end up being some drone in a lab and I never ever wanted to be that EVER.
    When I’m done, I am spending a whole year doing what I want, or else I might go even more insane and end up in a mental hospital or end up needing so serious therapy.
    And don’t tell me it’s all fine because it’s not, you two never went to university, you have no idea what it’s like. I can’t even write in my spare time to kill the depression since I’m just so dead inside.
    And also don’t tell me to talk to people, it’s not that easy when they are all judging you and then tell other’s you’re a moron, and it’s harder when I have no friends, I get it, people think I’m weird, I don’t care, but uni is forcing me to be around people and I don’t like it… I hate it, I hate it, I HATE IT.
    If you think I am over exaggerating there are thousands and thousands of people who think the same way http://ihateuniversity.com/2004/03/why-i-hate-university-life/
    When I first wanted to get into forensics, I liked the idea of it, not the reality, I should be writing forensic TV shows instead of actually doing forensics because that’s what I was more interested in, the entertainment not the actual science. I wish I could take this all back, get back my life, get back the money, but that’s too late now and I can’t deal with anything anymore.
    Sure my best friend from highschool hasn’t got a degree and probably won’t get a better job than she’s got, but she’s happy. I may have an education, but I’m miserable. I would rather be happy. And what guy would ever want to date a girl who is smart but always depressed… no one would.
    I’m at the end of my rope, I have told you countless times I hate uni and you never listened.
    And that’s what I have to say. Now I’m going to sleep because I’m so upset I want to vomit.

    Goodbye

  1609. @Anna
    Wow, your situation seems so hopeless. :(
    I know… EXACTLY 100% totally how you feel.
    Do you have a direct email address I could contact you on?

    Try not to be too down, it would be nice to talk to you.
    xx

  1610. I’m finishing my last semester here at Uni in Canada and these past 6 years have been the worst in my entire life. I’ve transferred to 3 different unis and all have been the same shit, with the last one (one im currently in now) being the absolute worst. Lecture are pointless, students don’t learn shit, grades are just based on ones ability to regurgitate the same jargon that the prof wants (his/her POV on the subject being taught). The worst part? I may have to stay behind for one more semester to finish 1 frellin course!!! 1 more semester of 4 hours round trip commute, 1more semester dealing with asshole arrogant classmates. In 6 years I’ve made no more than 5 good friends in University, down over 30k in debt with the government, learned absolutely nothing (I learned more visiting Wikipedia than this uni shit) , had so many sleepless nights worrying and being depressed, had my life essence and motivation zapped from my body, have developed a more pessimistic outlook on life, have to now enter a saturated job market in which i feel my degree is going to be fucking worthless!!! The highlight of my day is usually coming home alone to research ACTUAL USEFUL FACTS online (how frellin sad is this shit eh?). There is pressure from my family to do well and succeed equal to 1 ton of shit on my shoulders, and all for what? A fuckin piece of paper that i can use to be accepted as a quality human being into society?! Fuck uni, fuck the profs, fuck the social norms of having to go through this piece of shit institution to be considered ‘smart’ and fuck the 6 years of my life I spent in this prison.. Thank goodness I found this site to vent, and I’m glad to have found so many like minded people.

  1611. I love that this post has been going since 2004! Uni is such a load of bull. 75% of the units have no correlation to the actual work one will be undertaking once they graduate. WTF is up with that? They add in useless units to keeps us there longer and more importantly steal more money from us. I go to the most “prestigious” uni in Australia currently to do my Masters, and i did my Bachelors at the shittest uni and let me tell you…they are all the same…CRAP. So why do i subscribe to such bullshit? Well, apparently if i don’t then my family will think im a failure, society tells me im not “intelligent” and most jobs that make a decent living require some sort of university level education. So im fucked if i do and fucked if i dont. So much for living MY life…dont really get a choice here. I wish the next 18 remaining months would hurry up!! Im depressed out of my mind. I have no money, social life, fun, freedom, and i haven’t had a weekend off in 4.5 years cause i have to work to pay for food and other expenses. Oh and i havent seen the sun in 4.5 years also…im pretty sure i have a VitD deficiency :(

  1612. Wow. What a great site. I could just read this all day. I hate university as well with the same reasons of a lot of people.

    I’ve always been a quiet and gentle person. I don’t really like doing what most people enjoy doing, so its natural that I have a hard time making friends, especially most people in university do things I do like.

    The fact that it took me 3 years just to figure out how to manage the courses in my university shows hows complicated the system in my university. They also make it hard for you to talk to the administrative people because they don’t make an effort to inform you.

    I also take transit to school which takes more than 1 hour and its truly depressing. The fact that I know I can’t stay long in school to do some extra stuff is hard.

    I like learning and stuff, and in a sadistic way, its kinda fun feeling smarter than the average Joe, but the overall experience of University is not what I have hoped for. I also hate graduate students teaching a class! They are so disorganized and have such high standards in marking and they don’t even have their PhDs yet.

  1613. Anyone who is struggling with university right now, I just want to wish you the best of luck. I can relate to anyone who is finding uni life difficult on this site. I’m finished university now and I feel more at peace. I was extremely insecure at university. I constantly compared myself to my classmates. I was jealous of how opinionated, well-spoken and intelligent they were. I was the outcast at uni, because I was very self-conscious and I never said much because I was always afraid of sounding stupid when I spoke. I’m not really in touch with my classmates anymore, because if I stayed in contact with them, I would still feel insecure about my life. I would be afraid that they would be doing better than me and I’d be back to comparing my life with theirs. I don’t loathe my classmates, but my self-esteem is at an all-time low when I’m around them. I sort of regret doing my course and wished that I did something else. I was motivated about my course at first, but then poor grades, boring classes and opiners extinguished my enthusiasm and thus I lost interest in what I was doing.

  1614. Fuck The System

    Hello hello! I wrote on here I think in 2009/10 of course having a rant/vent about university and I said that I’ll probably fail my exams and drop out! Well it’s 2011 and so far, I failed an exam in my first year and then passed the resit, the second year I had the most awful experience living in a student house with nasty, dirty girls and a dodgy landlord! I had mould growing in my room, my window didn’t shut properly and a hole in my ceiling (i was in the attic….!) we had mice dying in our kitchen because of their mess and slugs etc. etc! But i soldiered on because I knew that I could have a better job with at least a Bsc. I was originally on a Masters programme but I’m trying to switch to the Bsc because I have reached my third year (if I pass my 2 resits!! LORD) and I can see a light at the end of the tunnel, I want out but I know that a Bsc will open doors for me.
    I’m excited but also a bit nervous about finding a job because now I don’t know what to do but at least I can try and find something I WANT to do even if it takes me 30 years. I think looking back, I’ll think these 3 years were so short and insignificant even though they have been endless hell! But I found that when university became too overwhelming, I would take a ‘mental health day’ (ha) because unlike a job, you dont have to be there, I went to the gym/pool or did painting or writing until I was ready to go back.
    Don’t live life in regret and if you’re not enjoying something, finish what you are doing (never quit) learn from it and move on. Life is too short to spend being miserable and eventually you will find peace.

  1615. Ever since early high school, I knew I wanted to pursue higher education. I felt like I was smart, dedicated, and able to handle the committments. My goal was to become a clinical psychologist.

    I got into my first choice of university–a prestigious school known for admitting only top students, but as soon as I got here, I quickly felt out of place. People always say “university friends last you for life”, but I still feel way closer to my high school friends, even though I live with my university ‘friends’.

    They always say there are bumps in first year, and it was for me… I worked harder than I was used to, but I still got into the program I wanted to fairly easily. When my marks didn’t continue to improve in second year (as everyone told me they would), I was beginning to get worried. Now I’ve finished third year and I’m about to go into my fourth and final one; and I’m terrified that I won’t do well at all.

    I don’t know if I’m just stupid, or just not trying hard enough, but everyone seems to be doing better than me. Even people who had worse marks in high school than me but went to other, less prestigious schools) seem to be faring better, talking of going into med school and law school (I would have liked to do med school, but my marks really deter me. Doesn’t help that the asian side of my family keeps hailing my cousin who wants to become a pediatric oncologist–the rest of us are chopped liver).

    It’s not like I’m not focussed; I read up on material in the subject in my spare time, purely out of my own interest. While all other students are out partying until the early hours of the morning, I’m asleep or reading, trying to take care of my mind and body. But despite all their hangovers, they all seem to be doing waaaaay better than I am. I just don’t understand.

    And now my psychologist dream is shot. I went to talk to a professor I’ve worked with for the past year about thesis options, since her research area interests me. When I listed in my application I was still thinking of doing something in clinical psychology, she effectively laughed at me, and refused me as a thesis student, saying she wouldn’t want to have to babysit me because my stats marks weren’t ideal (I’ve never been good at math, and never EVER failed a test before that course).

    Now, I just don’t know what to do with my life. I’m trying to find alternatives, but when my friend at another school (she wanted to go to mine, but didn’t get accepted) tells me she’s going to transfer into psychology so she can get into med school easier, it just boils my blood. Or my cousin tells me he’s a “shoo-in” for law school because of all the things he’s done (really it’s because he’s a huge brown-noser).

    I used to think I was smart. Now I just don’t know how I’m going to achieve the ideals I want, and I’m terrified for my future. I have no confidence to continue, since the behaviour of trying to achieve has become extinguished out of me (see, I AM learning something from my material, they just ask all the irrelevant crap on exams. I could writ a full length lab report about how universities serve as a negative reinforcer to extinguish positive attitudes and behaviours in students. But would they care? Probs not).

  1616. Classical overachiever.

    You have had delusions of greatness your whole life, and now you’re realizing that you’re no more special than anyone else.

    “I used to think I was smart. Now I just don’t know how I’m going to achieve the ideals I want, and I’m terrified for my future.” – Your ideals always were vane, superficial, and setting you up for failure. To truly succeed in the world you have to have an accurate perspective of the world, not one that envisions you as superior to others. Despite your attempts to fool yourself, this is your perspective. And it has caused you to fail. Ironic, isn’t it?

    “I could writ a full length lab report about how universities serve as a negative reinforcer to extinguish positive attitudes and behaviours in students” – Why don’t you try writing a sentence without spelling errors first? Universities do what they are supposed to. They set up a fair and balanced learning environment, and those who study and have an accurate perspective of themselves and others rise to the top. You didn’t make it. Oh well. Boo-hoo. Get over it. Wake up and smell the coffee, as they say. Get on with your life.

    “But would they care? Probs not.” – Again, you’re assigning blame on others. You are to blame for your failure in university. Stop being childish and trying to blame others for your own failures. The path to maturity is an ability to accept responsibility for your own actions. You are far from maturity.

  1617. The age of higher education might end if we persist.
    In Asia, specifically you’re labelled as delinquents, idiots maybe degenerates if you didn’t drag ya ass to an uni.

    I accidentally fell into this dentistry thingy. In my 4th year now, and seriously it’s not a everyone’s thing. If you think uni is the way to make sure your life is easier, then I wish you goodluck. Coz all you did is mindfuck yourself.

  1618. Hi everyone,

    If there continue to be problems with trolls, spammers, or the like, please let me know by emailing me at spamtastic@ketsugi.com. I do not monitor this site regularly (in fact I rarely even remember that it still exists) so I will not be able to take action if you do not ask me to.

    That said, please remember that while many of you are here to commiserate in your distaste for university life, there is still room for those who disagree to voice their opinions. Certainly some will do so with less courtesy than others, but this is the internet and with anonymity tends to come rudeness, and it is something that we all have to deal with. I would prefer not to resort to censorship and moderation unless the person in question is clearly out of line.

    Thanks,
    Joel

    PS: I graduated from university over 5 years ago. While for some of you it may genuinely have been a wrong choice to make, I would wager that for most of you it’s simply a matter of hanging in there and seeing it through to the end. The dividends of a university education may not be paid out immediately but they will (probably) come. So don’t give up too easily!

  1619. FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCKKK!!!!

    FUCKIN MOTHERFUCKIN!!!!!

    AAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!

    NIPPLE FUUUUCKK!!!!!

    Glad that’s out of my system. Still hate uni though.

  1620. Tired of this Bullshit

    Fuck school. Fuck getting up early as hell in the morning. Fuck the half an hour ride there and back that kills half my tank. Fuck sitting in lecture for 2 hours and listening to a fucking teacher talk about shit I don’t care about. Fuck trying to memorize the citric acid cycle. Who the fuck cares about that? Fuck cramming for 5 chapters of pure biochemistry that I’m never gonna use in my life. Fuck the fact that I can’t watch my show because I’m stuck studying for a fucking exam. Fuck the fact that I have to go through hell to obtain a piece of paper that says I can do shit. Fuck the system. Fuck university.

  1621. Woah, calm down everyone.
    Here’s some helpful advice.

    You don’t like university and think you could do better elsewhere? Then leave.
    If you have such strong minded views why would you mind being seen as a drop-out?

    Nothing to do at university? Get a job.
    No friends at university? Walk outside, go somewhere.
    Too much university work to be done? That’s the point of university, working on your own, following the set work that you should know in your industry.
    Thinking you’re being screwed over by the system? Grow up. Get a grip.

    That’s only some of the advice I could give.
    As for creativity, I studied Engineering.

  1622. My milkshake brings all the boys to the universities and they’re like get a degree and I’m like I need a pee. My degree brings all the money to the bank and it’s like I’ve got my degree to thank and I’m like I need a pee.

  1623. wow..the article was written in 2004 and now it’s almost 7 years, people are still discussing how much they hate their uni. life..

    well, to be honest, the reason i see why most of us all ended up here is because we are stressed with life in campus, go to google and type something like “i hate university”. (at least me).

    to some of you who might have already graduated by now, its funny when you see this from where you are now, but to most of us, university life still sucks..

    im in my final year now, doing electrical engineering, i really really cant wait to get the hell out of this mess so that i can start a new life..*sigh*

  1624. I posted here just last year under a different alias. What can I say? I’m so glad that I completed my degree. Even though it felt like I was dragging myself through hell to get through it.

    When I finished, it felt like I had just completed something traumatic. I was fidgety, always paranoid about forgetting something that I might not have done and I couldn’t relax for at least two months afterwards.

    It felt so exhausting. But. Here’s the but, I finished it.

    I don’t know whether you will get some kind of reward after you finish a degree that you absolutely loathe…some people have said “don’t give up! It’ll come back to you in the end in plenti-some compensation :)

    I don’t think it does. I hated my degree. I didn’t like the people there except for a select few. In my degree I made, for the first time in my life the most toxic friendship I would have hoped never to have.

    Everything about it drained me of my life and it felt like my soul was being leeched out of me. Towards the end of my honours year it felt like I hadn’t a soul left…just an empty husk.

    So…to everyone out there who can hopefully relate. Some of you won’t be able to recover immediately from this with rainbows and sunshine. But the point is, you will, if you don’t feel any other sense of relief, feel better once you do finish it.

    Keep persisting and good luck!

  1625. University is shit. I cannot believe the huge amount of egotistical twats that are on my course, it really is staggering.

  1626. I hate university because I made one stupid mistake in my first year, and I have been paying for it ever since. I have hardly any friends, and dread the thought of going back in september… thought it would be the best 3 years of my life. Not the case.

  1627. If you all went to uni in America, you’d love itAmerica, you’d love it :)

  1628. Wow this post started back in 2004 and people are still writing here in 2011 .Like everyone in this post I hate the university I study in what is supposed to be the best uni in Puerto Rico and I fucking hate it I hate doing work and assignments of shit that i could care less I hate how people think that if you don’t go to the university you are a stupid or are going to have a bad life I want to leave but people keep telling me that I am going to regret it I am getting depressed and I don’t know what to do.

  1629. I am so glad to have found this blog! I don’t feel so alone now!! I thought I was the only person who felt University was a social trap, after all they are a business and they make millions out of us students.

    It is such a shame that society (well from my perspective in Australia) feels the need to go to University in order to be a better person and get a well paid job, but in fact it is the total opposite. I agree with some of you, well how I feel anyways, that I’ve lost myself and my soul. I am confused with who I truly am because I feel like I have to follow everyone else and conform to the ‘student life’.

    They say at University you come here to make something of yourself and differentiate yourself but how can you when everyone else is doing the same thing as you. In the end I realise life is what you make of it, regardless if you have a degree or not. If you want to do something you have to believe in it and work it out for yourself. Just because you go to University does not guarantee you will be a success, you’ve got to work that out for yourself.

  1630. University is glorified Scientology.

    I was lured into the University of Cambridge under the promise of a better life, better job, and an education. After handing all my money over to this unapproachable institution, they couldn’t care less about my studies. I found Cambridge staff inflexible, unsupportive, they made it impossible for me to change courses, (or do two courses at the same time), there’s no Writing Centre or writing tutors, they have terrible language classes and they don’t help you (even in the slightest) to find a job.

    After spending three years there (learning useless bullshit), I can say it’s no different from Scientology. Both university and Scientology lure you into handing money in return for useless knowledge. They both lie to you when they promise you a better life. They both breed arrogance by saying “you’re better than everyone else who’s not here”. They both make it very hard (psychologically) to leave… they make you feel that without your affiliated institution, you’re worthless.

    University is not a job. You pay them, so they work for you. You’re a customer and you make the rules. University of Cambridge staff are terrible at customer service (they’re rude at worst, ignorant at best, and always unsupportive, even when you ask for help). They’ll take all your money, spend it on wine and swan-meat, give you nothing in return (no knowledge, no job, no skills, no experience) and say nothing when you leave. Cambridge is an aristocratic scam, a pyramid scheme that survives purely because of its history: glorified Scientology.

  1631. i hate university, i want to drop out all people care about is getting drunk and parting and i am not that kind of person i feel so isolated and left out. It is so hard to make friends here as i am not living on campus and people who live in halls seem to already have there little cliques. Everybody said it would be the best years of my life and that i would make friends for life that is not the case….I absolutely hate it

  1632. @Maci: drop out, move away and do something you actually enjoy. It’s only when you’ve got nothing that you’re free to do anything. In 12 months’ time, dropping out will be the best thing you’ve ever done with your life. Good luck.

  1633. Robbie McLaugLan

    *****stay away from university understand i have the very bad experience at university i got raped on my first day by a guy called Tony Galante he held me down with his shoulder and his friend Paul Curmi was standing watching with a Family Guy T SHirt and he was talking about planes while i was being raped and i screamed please mister i have the three children and the wife I am a dad of three and i am 38 years old

  1634. Dear rebellious university-haters,

    Write what you love about university here (under a different alias, if you like). It will help you to grow up.

    http://iloveuniversity.wordpress.com/

  1635. I too hate university. I think the whole thing is vastly overrated and exceptionally overpriced, and I am not convinced I will benefit from it in any way in the long term.

    I am studying Law at a university in the UK. I arrived with high hopes and aspirations, but these were very quickly dashed when I discovered the information regarding the course’s assessment methods found on the university’s website was incorrect. I simply wanted to be assessed by exams and/or essays and not by some sort of pretentious speaking exercise or another. The website did say only exams and essays would be used, but then in the very first week I discovered that there would be a speaking exercise. I was less than impressed and went to the head of department about it. She invited me into her office and spoke to me in very much the same a headmistress would speak to a naughty school pupil. She was clearly trying to make me feel like I was in the wrong when actually she was the one who fucked up by not making sure the website was correct. In the end she basically told to put up with it or leave — I wish now I had chosen the latter.

    I think every university student needs to understand that all universities are businesses. Money is what motivates them. The only difference between universities and the vast majority of private sector businesses is that universities will actually pretend they care about you and your future when really they don’t, whereas private sector businesses will make it abundantly clear that they don’t give a fuck about you and don’t even pretend to care. If you were to buy something from a shop, I can guarantee that the person behind the till is not at all interested in you or your future, they are simply interested in the money they are making whilst they are doing their job. Likewise when a university lecturer is standing at the front reading from a book (which they all do by the way) they are only thinking about the money they are making, but the sickening thing is they actually try to make out that they care, and don’t for a second believe them.

    This brings me on to my next point: I really can’t understand how these lecturers can justify their ridiculously high salaries. I am pretty sure all lecturers are on upwards of £50,000 per year, and all that for just standing at the front and reading from a book. All of my Law lecturers are ex lawyers, which is good, and I do believe them and I don’t doubt their credentials, however I am not convinced that all lawyers can make the transition from lawyer to lecturer very smoothly and I feel that their teaching methods are very poor. We are given what is called a module guide, which is basically a book with everything we need to know in it. Unfortunately, the book is full of gaps and these gaps are often salient information. The idea is we come to the lectures with our books and the lecturer will tell us what goes in the gaps. This makes me feel like I am back at primary school. I don’t understand why they don’t just give us a module guide with all the gaps filled in so we can simply read it in our own time and learn form that. Really there is no need to go to lectures. The information that goes in the gaps can be found very easily in textbooks and online. I think if I am going to pay over £3,000 per year to study at the university I would expect everything to be given to me on a plate, and at the very least they could give me a module guide with no gaps. And then to take the piss even more they insist that we undertake additional independent study outside university hours, so what the fuck am I paying for then?

    I would really like to see the government privatise all traditional universities and fully nationalise the Open University, making it completely free for everyone. I think the OU know exactly how higher education should be delivered, i.e. without some patronising lecturer dickhead stealing a living and instead by giving students all the information they need for them to read in their own time. I would also like the OU to operate more quickly so that students can finish their degree courses in about as much time as it would take to finish a degree course at a traditional university, maybe even sooner. I think this could revolutionise higher education and mean that students will not be in debt when they leave the OU, unlike at traditional universities. Really the only people who would be less better off are the traditional university staff, but who honestly gives a fuck?

  1636. I’ve only been to university for a week and all I can think about is dropping out.
    It’s become pretty apparent that I have social anxiety or I’m just painfully shy. I’ve really tried to talk to everyone, go out, have fun.. And I did do. But everytime I try to join in and get involved they ignore me and no one has asked if I’m ok or I want to do anything. My flatmates are already teasing me, saying I’m a freak. I think I could move and try to start over but this is clearly an underlying issue that I need to sort out. It’s just 100 times more difficult right now because I’m completely alone in a town I don’t know at all and everyone here went to school together.
    I don’t feel sorry for myself, I just hate myself for lacking the courage to keep my chin up.
    Being excluded is so hard. All I can see is all the places I don’t fit in.

  1637. @Richard, why are you studying Law if you don’t like having to speak at short notice? Isn’t public speaking an important part of being a lawyer? If you think law is pretentious, why did you choose to study Law?

    You should now print your message and send it to your university tutor. Discuss it with them in a semi-formal appointment. Make sure they know exactly how you feel. Come back and tell us the results. Good luck.

  1638. Guys. I am so glad i came across this site. Most of what you guys have said is like taking words out of my mouth. I used to think there was something wrong with me for not being able to stick with school (i left school in the middle of sixth form and homeschooled myself) but this is more proof to me that school can’t be for everyone.
    Some people thrive better by doing things their own way instead of following the mainstream.
    School can’t be the only way to make something of your life and it’s unfair that it is given such importance, while other study/career paths are underestimated.
    Uni should be a place for people wanting to learn about the world and not cram knowledge up their asses, waiting to pass exams to get the piece of paper and forget half the stuff they’ve learnt afterwards. Uni should be fun, allow us to study what interests us to make the most of our motivational juices… instead we’re given a prescribed load of garbage to learn and pass with a degree in something something. uni these days is just like a higher extension of school, it’s not fun, not new, not exciting anymore.
    i thought i’d like to be like everyone i knew, try my hand at uni and have fun like they say, but it so did NOT turn out that way. I made myself sick forcing myself to continue there… I did meet nice friends, had some fun during the holidays before semester, but when classes started/assignments kicked in, it was utter shit. After 2 months I quit, if i’d quit earlier i would have gotten my money back but i tried forcing myself just because everyone was doing that, and i didnt want to displease the family or be gossipped about by relatives. but in the end i burned out. trying to make myself into someone i wasnt and trying to gain peoples approval. i was wrong. and now i made the same mistake enrolling into design school. i’ve only been to orientation and already regretting it big time.took me three times to understand that…
    i think if we cant stick to one system it’s because, each person has their own way of doing things and it doesnt matter if its not uni, every single system is as equal as each other. i feel you guys have potential, you have great amounts of creativity and if this isnt channeled correctly (it isnt usually when u go to school and have to conform) we manifest things like ADD
    you guys shouldnt be miserable, its not fair… focus on a way to channel your creativity and imagination out and take it as far as it can go

  1639. I’m sorry everyone on here is having or has had such a bad time. I start my second attempt at university tomorrow and am absolutely dreading it. Three years ago I started a course at the different uni. I lasted a year and a half but got really depressed and ended up dropping out. I moved back in with my parents a couple of months ago and start my new Fine Art course at the local uni tomorrow. People keep asking me if I’m excited which only makes me feel worse! I am not a party girl so ‘fresher’s week’ is just depressing. So it’ll be even harder to meet people than just living at home.
    Anyway, I’m just venting into the void. If anyone has any advice other than going out or not letting the work get to me that would be lovely. Thanks

  1640. StrongerEveryday

    Re: MissNoHope

    I hear your story like it is my own. In fact it is really similar to mine. Life is hard, so don’t beat yourself up about your past. Try to stay positive (I know this is easier said than done).

    If you can try to talk to people in your classes. If you can’t, make sure you have a strong support system outside of university, be it friends or family. You’ll get through this. Congrats on giving it a second try!

    I wish you all the best sweetie!

  1641. I typed : I hate the university and I found this website.
    Guys as a holder of a PhD and 2 master s and a Bsc degree I am telling you sth, listen to me because I have spent most of my life in the Uni:

    1) There is no correlation between earning money and a degree in 99% cases.
    If you have the talent to earn money, you are just wasting your time by going to a uni.

    2) If you love a special subject like physics, math etce never study it at a high uni level because you will hate it after you finish, it happened to me.

    3) Uni is killing all your creativity, wastes the best period of your life, fills you with stress, wastes your money and instead gives you a peice of worthless paper which indicates nothing.

    4)Going to a uni is only for less intelligent stupid people that do not know what to do with their life.
    That is it!

  1642. well i just found out today that my tutor is delibertle holding me back a year, part time, for one fucking elective which i got a 39 on even tho im still on a fucking first! no i get no loan, i just signed the contract 3 days ago for a £4000 rent agreement over a year, and i dont start fucking uni for 4 months! uni sucks they fucked me over BIGTIME!

  1643. Well basically, I am one of those kids that likes to party, I’m outgoing, sociable, enjoy meeting new people and have an open mind. I’ve been at university for two weeks now, I have two flatmates that don’t care if I’m alive or dead, wrapped up in their own issues, and one who although overly friendly has a group of mates already at uni, and therefore I’m always the outsider. I also have two people belittling me and patronising me deliberately in front of new people for no apparant reason, I barely know them, they are just inflicting their own insecurities on another person, which unfortunately for myself, happens to be me. i miss my family, I miss my friends, I miss a sense of community amongst my peers. I have never fitted into the system having been kicked out of a few schools etc. But ave never wished ill of people, have matured substantially within the last two years and have always gone out of my way to accept and be nice to others. And yet I feel victimised and alone at university. Sorry for writing a sob story, but I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, pure and simple. I need out.

  1644. I got here on Saturday and I’m leaving this Saturday. It’s making me ill. It’s not homesickness, it’s misery. I will pay off my loan as soon as I can afford to by working for my mum. My parents and everyone are furious with me for leaving but I will make them proud of me – but this isn’t how I’m going to do it!!! I’ve just walked out of my introductory lecture because they told us to leave if we weren’t dedicated and I’m not. I just want my home town and my family around me – I don’t want to be a hundred miles away and miserable, doing something I’m not happy doing :-(

  1645. I hated university because the students were snobby pretentious wankers. It is a myth that you keep your university friends for life, I fell out of touch with all of the people I met within 5 years of graduating and probably wouldn’t even say hello if one of them walked right past me in the street. I recently say an old uni friend on the tube and went out of my way to sit in a different carriage.
    I was told uni would be the best time of my life, but it was possibly the worst. All the attractive girls you dream of dating were “taken”, they had boyfriends from back home, and were mostly completely stuck up, pretentious and downright rude. There were nice girls, but they were mostly just fat and unattractive.
    All the blokes competed endlessly about girls and made up stories to make up for their pathetic non existent sex lives. Most of the guys I knew at uni actually never got to talk to an attractive girl in the entire time there because the attractive ones just ignored everyone.
    Then there was the horrible snobby atmosphere. I went to a good university and was mocked endlessly by snobby wankers for having a regional accent.
    We were actually there to study, but most people did nothing and just cheated by cribbing the essays written by the swots that someone had borrowed and photocopied. I once worked hard on an essay and lent it to a “friend”, who then photocopied it and passed it around the entire course.
    As soon as I left uni, all my friends went to the corporate sector to do high paying soulless careers.
    I wrote emails and made phone calls suggesting meeting up that were never returned.
    Uni brought me basically nothing but a degree certificate.
    I look back now and can’t believe I ever stood in the same bar as those snotty arrogant wankers.

  1646. All I see on this website is people who hate university.

    Could someone please share why they LOVE university for a change?

    http://iloveuniversity.wordpress.com/

    Love, X

  1647. Hi, I have been reading this website since I started last week. I have maybe one or two days where I have felt okay, but these where half days. I am doing a nursing degree, and I am wondering why, I want to care for others but hate the obnoxious lecturers! Seriously who do they think they are? I have had a horrible day, got upset in front of two horrible lecturers! and now I am being referred to occupational health because my personal tutor reckons I am now not fit to practice, I am appalled at how I was spoke to, and that was my reason for getting so upset. I meant to have emotions, I have had the worse fucking week of my life! and then faced with a gobshite tutor! I only came to bloody introduce myself! How do they break you down….??? FUCK UNI!

  1648. I’ve only been at Uni 3 days now but i’ve already managed to cry multiple times. I miss my past Sixthform friends SO much. I miss my ex best friend who I actually love(d). I’m living at home and takes 1.5hrs to get there. I spend 14hrs actually at Uni a week. I honestly wish I was back at Sixthform and saw the same friends and teachers. I’m hoping I will make friends and everything will iron out. I MISS EVERYTHING. I knew Uni would require work but my tutor has said I need to do 40hrs work on my own each week. I work saturday all day. HOW CAN I DO 40hrs! I don’t want to let it get to my emotions but I miss things. I am grateful for everything but i can see Uni being nothing but pure shite. I want a real close friend who feels the same and would stand by me. Ah i’m crying. :(

  1649. hating manchester after just over a week. no one in my flat ever wants to go out, attempts to mingle with others have just shown that people seem to be stuck up and have already made friend groups unwilling to even talk to new people. thinking of dropping out already. was seriously hoping for a great new life.

  1650. I know what you mean. I’m living at home and it’s so much harder for me to make friends with people that have been here a week in advance and have already more or less made their bunch of friends. Everyone seems so different.

  1651. To Anyone About To Post...

    Sit back, and stop. Consider two things:

    1. No one gives a shit what you’re about to type.

    2. What you’re about to type will be pretty much the same BS as included in the majority of comments on the site (it certainly won’t be ORIGINAL…)

    3. If you hate university, fine. Why not save the time you’d spend typing on here and go and IMPROVE your situation instead of blaming a pile of people that could give less than a shit about you? And if you’re looking for ways to improve your situation, there are plenty on this and many other sites.

    And now for the majority – idiots that will post their drivel anyway – here’s a special little message from university patrons and alumni everywhere: We don’t give a shit about you; we find you to be stupid, under-read, and quick to think negatively when the solution to your problem often is your reaction to the REAL WORLD. Grow up.

  1652. Brutal honestly usually helps one situation, thank you :)

  1653. Tom, you did the right thing. Seriously, doing something you have no interest for is like living hell. I wish i had the courage to do what you did years ago…

  1654. people who love university must be on crack or giving sexual favours to the lecturers. We all know we would rather be doing something more practical in our lives.

    @To Anyone About To Post…
    you are exactly right no one will give a shit about what YOU type because university is all about wankers who only care about the marks people get and treat people like emotionless robots

  1655. If you want to know why I absolutely detest Uni well you only have to see my web site.

    Toodle Pip

  1656. I quit uni 5 weeks into my course last October mainly down to the course and the uni itself. I started at a different uni last month and thought it was going well but I think I’m slowly realising that university just isn’t for me, at all. Being stuck to this boring routine on a course I’m only slightly interested in is slowly driving me insane. On the downside, I see quitting uni for a second time as a huge negative, what else could I do? Jobs are hard to come by. I have been looking into travelling, but I don’t want to spend all my savings on travelling for a year to come back to the UK without a job. Bad times. :(

  1657. As 2000+ other people have posted before me im pretty sure uni is not a happy place.

    I just makes no sense that uni is one of the best times of your life. All it does is suck the life out of you until you are nothing but a eating and breathing fleshbag doomed to complete useless assignments and go to boring lectures.

  1658. I think nobody here got into a worse situation like mine. I was withdrawn from my accounting program due to low CGPA and the first few months was really depress and sad. But i found my way back to school like applying as special student and making my improvement etc. Spending a year for academic improvement. Anyway it was hard, long and painful! i tell ya. It was like univ slap your face and then later on, you came back with a middle finger pointing to them in return “Thanks”.

  1659. and forgot to mention about “in return with money” too. So yeah I hate university.

  1660. What can I do? I want to quit uni and travel for a bit but is that really possible? Surely I won’t have enough money? Meh. :’(

  1661. I’ve been looking into WWOOFing if I drop out of university, anyone think this is a good move?

  1662. I’ll keep it short and to the point. University is just like any other place, there’s good people, there’s bad people. If you’re a good person you tend to attract the good people.

    Call me naive, but with a “glass is half full” attitude, a love for what I’m studying, and an open mind. University is genuinely a great place to meet new people. I meet some snobs, some narcissists, some asshole lectures. But I don’t care, this is my fucking life and I’m gonna do all i can to be happy and make people around me happy.

    Good luck, Uni is great.

  1663. I’ve only been at university for one month but, without being dramatic, it has been the worse month of my life. I’ve made hardly any friends, all I do is sit and cry. Pretty sure my family are sick to death of me telling them i miss them and want to come home. I want to leave but my dad wont let me as he says i’d be throwing away my future. I’m so down all the time, I can’t keep this up. I wish i’d never applied. I’m sick of crying and feeling completely alone. I just want to go home.

  1664. After having a weekend to unwind and return back to my saturday employment I thought I may begin to accept i’m at University, however after the first lab I sat there thinking “3-4 years of this?” But then I worked out that i’m at Uni 3 days a week, so 12 times a month. Before you know it, it’s over. It’s what you do with your spare time that will shatter your emotions. To me I think it’s more to do with realising that I may very well never see some friends again as to be honest – they dislike me and so I feel even more pressured to make friends at Uni. But I guess if I don’t end up making Uni friends that I can go down town with, I have my family. Life never turns out to what you expect it to be – so be happy with what you’ve got (: I’m surprised i’m being so positive about this because I also so far don’t feel so excited about University – If I think about it too long I can very well let a tear out.

    To Emma, if you’re sadness continues into the near future i’m sure your father will accept how you feel. You could try to be transferred to a University closer to home so you can actually live at home. Or you can leave and reapply for University this year – Unfortunately that’s another thing, people may already be applying for this years first students :/ I hate that, soon as you start, you have to like it and if you don’t then you’re pretty much fucked because it’s too late to apply for the next year :/ But if anyone wants someone to talk to, feel free to give me an e-mail :) jim-bob2009@live.co.uk

    Bottom line is, it’s not the end of the world if you decide not to finish University – Look at people at mcdonalds or people who work full-time at a pub… Yes their pay might not be amazing, but yano, life is about enjoying it. Yes money helps to buy nice holidays and clothes and cars and houses and to impress people etc etc etc, but all you need in life is shelter, a job and a family. Take care all

  1665. Well I’m a first year. Not digging the massive work load. Bombing mid terms and all that. But I keep my cool. First year is the worst… Music keeps me sane :D

  1666. Bombing mid terms? Music always helps (:

  1667. What I like about University is that it forces me to study and understand concepts that I normally would not think about. I am in my 3rd year, and this is the advice I’ll give to those who dislike university. Think of yourself like a disease, and a university education as foul-tasting medicine. Even if it tastes horrible, you still need to take it in order to blossom as a person. Or, consider a child. A child does not want to be disciplined or punished, but without responsible parents, it turns out to be a disobedient, spoiled brat. I feel that I am Winston Smith (protagonist of 1984) and university is Oceania. I have won the battle against myself, and I have abandoned my humanity in order for an illusory concept of success. I am now a machine, and I am ready to join the workforce, and then eventually die. Growing up sure sucks…

  1668. Dying inside...

    Thank God I found this…
    University is just soul-crushing. I’ve been here for two months (Oh, God – it’s ONLY BEEN TWO MONTHS) and it’s making me feel worthless. I used to feel somewhat smart and friendly, mildly attractive and easy to get along with, but after only two months here, EVERYTHING’S deteriorated. I feel stupid and tired all the time, I can’t make and keep friends, I feel ugly and out-of-place, and every day, it gets slightly worse.

    I don’t even go on social sites much anymore because it’s so depressing to see all of my old friends posting updates and pictures of how wonderful their life is with their new college friends.

    I’ve been reduced to sitting in the library alone; at least here it wont seem weird that I’m not socializing. I actually broke down a little and cried before typing “I hate University” into google. I hate my life….

    I was planning on writing a whole list of everything I hate about this place, but I don’t really have the energy…

    I’m just a cluster-fuck of shame and disappointment.

  1669. I’m in my last year of uni at the moment, only three weeks off finishing. It hasn’t been all that great, and I’m really glad its almost over. I started my course at a smallish uni in the country (I realize now that I should have stayed there), but decided to transfer and do my last year in the city. Big mistake. When I was at the smaller uni there were only about 15 or so people in my course year and I knew all of them. Some were friends, others I didn’t like at all.

    I thought that in moving to the city I would make heaps of new friends and have a great time, but this didnt happen. I think the problem started with me not going to orientation week. I live a fair way away from the uni so I didnt bother going. But thats where you meet people, and by the time classes start people have already formed groups and cliques. Plus everyone already knew eachother from previous years.

    I did make a few friends in the first few weeks, but they didnt last very long. My course doesnt involve a lot of contact hours so we just drifted apart from I guess.

    Maybe I just suck at making friends.

  1670. Group fucking assignments.
    They are what makes uni so shit.
    Just let me do it on my own! Fuck.
    There is always that one bitch who does absolutely nothing and gets the same mark anyway, and that other bitch who takes control and tries to delegate all the tasks, then claims she/he did all the work. Then that one person who is a total over achiever and gets A+’s for everything who puts pressure on everyone else to write A+ material.

    Then there is your poor average joe, who gets average marks, who is a quiet achiever, who doesn’t want to sound like a total controlling bitch and take over the whole operation, but doesnt just laze about doing nothing either. These are the people who get looked over.

    It fucking sucks.

  1671. DAMN! SCREW THE SHIT OUT OF UNIVERSITY!

  1672. Yes! Finally people I can actually relate to. I’m so glad I’m not the only one who feels like this. I’m currently in my 3rd and thank fuck final year of uni. Three weeks in and I’m already contemplating giving up the ghost. I detest students. A whole new batch of them to keep me awake at night with their fucking selfish antics outside in the fucking street, inconsiderate bunch of fucking wankers. From my window I have witnessed in the range of about 10-20 brawls (all students), one very serious in which a group of young Muslim men were being chased to their halls by what I can only assume were three racists. One unlucky Muslim man was badly beaten with a lead pipe on the head severely times. I watched this all unfold in front of my eyes, it was horrific. Police and ambulance service followed soon after to my relief. There are so many racists in Manchester, its quite upsetting to think these type of people still exist in today’s society. I cant wait to get on that boat with my stuff and move back to Ireland. It’s going to be the happiest day of my life. The world has literally gone mad. People with no souls. No concept of what really matters. Ipoods/phones/pads should not have been invited, they have turned people into obnoxious wankers. I don’t know what it is about students that just makes me want to punch them in the face, especially the “trendy hipster” ones. This video explains what I mean. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I and this class of people http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHDY2QpaSwU&feature=related. Brilliant, funny, ridiculing depiction of what young adult society is like today, frustrates me to no end.

    Living in Manchester for the past two years without the support of my family being close by has really opened my eyes to what’s important and what’s completely irrelevant and a waste of energy. Trying to be someone else just to fit in with the herd. It’s the biggest mistake I made. Staying true to yourself is the key to staying sane. I was lucky enough to find a really amazing friend in the first week I started 1st year. She was literally a Godsend. I don’t think I would have survived that 1st year if it wasn’t for her. She too hated every minute of her university years. A year after graduating she told me university was such a waste of time, wished she never had went and her degree hasn’t helped her at all. My second year was so tough, I was so alone without her but somehow I managed to get through it. I pray this year goes in quickly, I keep telling myself it will all be over soon, don’t give up now, you’re so close to the finish line, but there are days when I just want it all to end, why I’m here, what’s the fucking point, someone just kill me now.
    I’m studying quite a useful and practical degree. At the end of it I will have skill that I can use anywhere in the world. This I think is what keeps me going, knowing that at the end of all this hell I will hopefully get a decent job at the end of it. I hate the fact though there is so much useless information we need know to pass the course. Pointless assignments that induce stress and cause exhaustion, leaving you feeling empty and lifeless inside.

    If I could go back in time I would have left school at 16 and started an apprenticeship of some sort but that life choice is never well publicised, accessible or supported as much as the academic route. I remember my Biology teacher in secondary school telling us all “that going to university is the best decision you’ll ever make, you’ll meet the most amazing people and have such a good time” Such a joke. Anyway thank-you so much for creating this web page, it has giving me a lifeline, I’m not the only one :)

    Any lesbian-friendly ladies in Manchester who feel the same and want an escape?..

  1673. I FUCKING HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    why why did i decide to study my ass of in year 12 to get into uts? why the hell didnt i get a shit grade and just go to tafe which i hear is sooo much more relaxing! better yet why the hell didnt i drop out and do some sort of an apprenticeship!
    I JUST WANT TO MAKE MONEY, NOT BLOODY PAY THOUSANDS TO DO SOMETHING I EFFING HATE

  1674. University is shit, i agree. But what realistic alternatives are there for us in this day and age? Hairdresser? Trade. NOT if you want to support a family your whole life.

    Dropping out and being a tradie might seem attractive now, but imagine doing that in 30 years, when you’re 50 and just want to sit down at a desk and get paid.

    Thats what keeps me going. The long term. In the long term, its all worth it.

  1675. I am in my first year of a double law degree at uni and to be honest the actual degree is not too bad and the small amount of friends I have would be fine, if i did not live on campus and lived at home. however seeing as I live on campus I hate uni, i never see my family, am bored all the time, spend most of my day wasting time with my flatmate. go out with friends every now and then and spend the week looking forward to going to uni as its something to do other then stay in my dorm room all day.

    I don’t hate uni i just ain’t a fan of living on campus hence not a fan of this uni although am grateful for being accepted into the course in the first place.
    good luck guys

  1676. I hate school so much that I just want to go live in the wild or something. If this is the type of bullshit required to follow your dreams, then people wouldn’t have any dreams in the first place. I know that an education is required to learn about the world and start researching in a field you like, but this stressful way of piling on assignments and tests and having people cram useless information into their brains for a day will in no way prepare them for that or be an enjoyable experience of the field they like. I am getting terrible marks because I lack motivation and I feel like absolute garbage.

  1677. I have more or less just started uni and cant understand why everyone keeps saying its so easy in the first year – all i seem to have done this last 2 weeks is stress out about how much reading i need to do and the fact that (though ive only just started) i will have coursework essays due in just over a month.

    Dont feel like i can cope with university – and the thing is i am probably the first kind of person you would expect to go to uni and do well there. Right now I am scared of failing the first year, let alone lasting another 2.

  1678. Life never turns out to what you expect it to be, so be happy with what you’ve got.

    I’m in my 4th week of University now and at first I truly felt so run down. I didn’t “hate” it, was more of the fact that I “hate” change. But given time and when you get into the swing then hopefully you’ll get used to University. As they say, University isn’t for everyone. But to some it up, it’s 1095 days of Uni life. You only spend like 30 weeks there. So in fact it’s really about 630 days. And then you have weekend ends so then it’s 540 days. The list goes on. You spend hardly any time there. Think about it this way, it’s nearly christmas. Then after christmas it’s nearly summer. You finish in may/june! Hardly any time :) Chin up people, sorry if i’ve been too optimistic but in my life I find that if someone’s happy and point out the truth then it makes me somewhat more happy (: If anyone needs an email penpal then i’m happy to reply (:

    hey_its_me_james@hotmail.co.uk

  1679. Okay, it is not that I hate university as a whole because frankly, any undergraduate or grad student says the same thing at least 12 times a year. I just hate the professors that are long winded to the point of causing utter confusion in the minds of students. Frankly, I feel that these professors would be doing a favor to their students by being as far away from academia as possible or giving a pistol a blowjob (whichever works for them).

    But who am I to criticize the universities? I am just a fourth year student who is tired of all the hypocrisy post secondary education represents. For example, the university is able to pay its former president a whopping sum of 4.1 million when it calls for hiking up prices on four of its faculties. Not to be a stick in the mud, but when a university does something like this, I wonder what other stupid decisions it has made.

    Furthermore, professors that give enormous amounts of readings are the most frustrating. One time I had a professor that gave the class numerous current events readings that had nothing to do with the class matter. Giving students mindless amounts of reading is both a waste of a student’s precious time and sanity. And the prof actually tests on this crap! Instead of asking what the general theme of the article is, he asks the most obscure detail of the article.

    Professors that utilize what I call the “quantity over quality” form of lectures are what I see as the bane of my existence (well, that and China’s human rights record). Instead of focusing on building an overall idea during a lecture utilizing the simplest of vocabulary, these profs just rant on and on and often students spend more time having to analyze the prof’s words more than understanding the general idea the prof is supposed to be pushing.

  1680. I’m about a month into my second year of university. I was really ambitious this summer and decided to sign up for five (difficult) courses this semester. Big mistake! I’m putting a huge effort into four of them, and then there’s this one that’s completely slipping. I have to write this huge essay, due in two days, about all sorts of medieval literature that I haven’t even read yet (because I’ve been busting my ass for my other courses). And we’re not allowed to use ANY secondary sources to help us out, so there goes Sparknotes. I would drop this course, but eventually I’ll need to take it again to get my degree / framable piece of paper, and then I’d have to pay for it twice, which is complete bullshit in my mind. Shit, if I want to take it again some other time, they should let me without having to pay for it again. What the hell.

  1681. It’s so funny when people come on this forum to correct other people’s grammar…douchebags

  1682. kirstycardboard

    I’m a second year Law student at Manchester, and had a great time last year; I still hate on uni sometimes! This seems a good place to complain!
    I hate people who moan and don’t try to change things so I guess I’m just as bad.
    I have new flatmates this year, and they’re really nice but don’t invite me out and they don’t really listen when I talk. Maybe I’m invisible! I feel that, especially on my course, people are rather rude and arrogant.
    I don’t think I’m amazing, but I’m not horrid. I like meeting new people, going out and drinking, and everyone says uni is amazing but I feel I’m missing out!

  1683. Wow I am so relieved to see that there are others who agree with me. I am first year and I am already beginning to see that the only reason why I came here in the first place was to satisfy every one else’s perceptions of me. I am so sick of this shit… college might have seemed like the better option for me then writing stupid test that are completely IMPOSSIBLE. Then receiving a BA and not being able to find a job. On top of it all, I am stuck eating disgusting fattening food, compared to when I was at home, I would cook healthier meals for myself, and be more active. My life is completely deteriorating and I am so confused… FUCK UNIVERSITY!!!!

  1684. I've tried twice!

    I’ve been to this website twice now, once when I was at uni two years ago and now, when I’ve started again, at a different institution.

    I can’t believe how much the education system in this country sucks balls. At least for creative subjects like graphic design and animation and art. The lecturers know absolultely NOTHING. I could teach them! I SHOULD teach them! And worst of all I believe they all hate me because I know more than them about the subject they’re supposed to be teaching me. I just can’t believe I’ve gone through this twice.

    Last year I left my university at the end of the 2nd year, decided to take a gap year then start in the 3rd year somewhere else. I made no long lasting friends at the last piece of shit institution I was at, the teachers were pathetic and just everything about the place was awful. A complete waste of my time and money. I feel I have fallen into an even worse situation at the place I’m currently attending. Everyone is lazy. Everyone. My classmates AND the teachers. No one is friendly. Everyone in my class has their cliques and don’t speak to anyone outside said clique, which means me as the newbie has no friends at all. I am quite used to having to do things by myself since the last horrible university I was at so I can thankfully get on with my life without caring too much about needing anyone in my classes friendship. Funny thing about it all too is that they all SUCK. Their work is horrible! How can a person be at university and producing such bad work? I don’t understand why they can’t see how bad they all are?

    I just hate university so much. The girls dress like they’re going clubbing and all the boys practically have their dicks sticking out of their pants. It’s a horrible experience.

    The worst part is I was making a really good name for myself in my year off as a freelancer, and having to go back to this “university life” is just awful.

    One of my lecturers I particularly hate. He’s always going on about getting drunk and going clubbing. What a looser! I can’t wait to get out of this shit whole. Only 7 more months to go..

  1685. 3rd year into a four year degree, and I am burnt out. Exactly why degrees need to be so damn long is beyond me, exept so they can make money. So much trival rubbish, so few specialist options, and everything taught in such a boring unimaginative way. My 3 hour lecture blocks are just agony, sat in the dark listening to some droning voice with black on white slides. 9 months a year, 5 days a week, 7 hours a day – drivel and labs, my mind is mush. Someone teach these people how to TEACH.

    If I’m not bored off my head in class, I am psychotically stressed with the mass of reports, research, on the spot examinations, lab write-ups and assessments that all count for a stupid proportion of my degree, and are all innately unfair in their design – 80% dumb luck, 20% awards study! Don’t forget it all needs to be in the day before it was even set. And dont even think of taking a day off sick or getting a weekend job. You’ll struggle so hard trying to keep up you may spontaneously combust. Existence outside my degree is not allowed. Earning a wage becomes impossible. You must be a leach on society and your family because University demands it. Why? They want your money, and they’ve got us all trapped. To think I used to like my subject and my job BEFORE I went to University.

    Don’t forget the crap uni admin that can’t organize their way out of a paper bag only adding to the stress with their timetable clashes, last minute changes and disastrous room bookings. Boring external speakers that only come in because they like the sound of their own voice. Every year the greedy Uni packs in more and more students until the facilities can’t handle it. But they don’t care.

    Honestly, what do we learn at Uni that we couldn’t get from a book in half the time? And we could do it without the pretentious, rude, egomaniacs that are lecturers pulverizing our self-esteem and confidence. And no, we don’t all love stinking halls of residence, skanky pubs, lame over-priced night clubs and lazy arses on whimpy degrees keeping us up til 3am. It is not an exciting experience unless you like that kind of crap.

    University is a bullshite institution that holds the nation hostage in the foolish belief they are improving our worth, when in fact they are driving us all into life-long debt, wasting our youth and readying us for educated unemployment.

  1686. well i feel the same way , university life can sometimes be tragic your friends for a LIFE TIME are all faking it they just want to make contacts use you, trying to bring you down and play a lot of politics. In my country university is all about your CGPA and sucking up to teachers nothing else. Its so boring :P

  1687. “Bombing mid terms? Music always helps (:” – I wan to cry. So true, not just for getting bad grades everything about uni. It took me two years to realize I’m only getting my degree because of the pressure to get one. Besides that what else am I going to do that seems feasible in 20 or 30 years? uni suck, I would drop out, but again I would be that person who dropped out. Why do all my friends seem to love it when all I want to do is leave? Pushing through it, hoping things will get better once I’m done.

  1688. I really hope that the economy stabilizes and one day educated people will be able to get jobs. There’s no point in studying if you’re not going to get a good job in the future, let alone any job. I’ve just been studying my fucking ass off and i’m sure i’m failing a few of my courses just because some of the “instructions in an essay were not 100% followed”. Some courses the teachers make sooooo hard that no matter how much you study it’s impossible to do well… like my psych exam today. Whoever said university’s the best time of your life must have spent all of their time partying.

  1689. Hi, I’m from Canada currently in U of W. I was very excited at the opportunity of going to university. In high school my lowest grade was a 76% and my highest was 98%. I am intelligent and a extremely hard worker. When I first went in my classes I thought how funny that these people here all seem like idiots; I bet they will al drop out in the next week. I thought this since most didn’t seem to ever have been ‘good’ studence with good grades. I’m in my second month if university and these kids just seem to be having a blast. Wile I can’t even focus. None of the courses subject matter interests me; Every time I sit down my head feels like it’s swelling and swelling with pain from the teachers constant drown. Nothing interests me. I thought university would be challenging, a new type of hard and interesting. Instead I find myself so overly frusterated. This isn’t how we are ment to learn. The teachers don’t even teach! What maddness is this? I like the rest of you typed in ‘I hate university’ into google at 7am in my psych class.

    I’m frustrated because I know I’m smart enough to do this, I just have no drive to. I don’t want to be here, and I don’t like being here. So now the question is what to do? I don’t thinking can take another day of this. University isn’t for me. No because I’m stupid. (or at lest I hope not) it’s just too much talking and not enoght conversation. The teach talks and no one else. There are no interesting imput. You don’t make friends in class. It’s so HARD TO GET MOTIVATED.

    If your having a hard time in university no matter where you are; please feel free to email me at stephy-sunshine@hotmail.com

    It helps to talk. Thank you all for your posts

  1690. quite nice to find that i am not the only one sitting in my room, wondering what i’ve done wrong when i know its nothing. A month here, trying and trying, putting myself out, doing things i wouldnt, going out, working hard, studying…and all i feel like is that i am a failure. University never felt like the right thing, but because it is so socially accepted, because getting a worth while jobs depends on it, i felt like i had to go. I know i could fight the system and go it alone, but i am also scared and not sure about it. Writing essays and reports, presentations, pretending to care, leaves me bored and my brain mashed, depressed. whats further, everyone’s attitudes to work- that uni is just a way to skive 3 years, makes me so angry, just as much as the fact that after all this i will be in debts, tied up in capitalist society to have to do what they say.
    People here are nice, but i feel strangely lonely. like i havent found any real friends, though i have made all the right moves. Like i havent fitted into any social norms. they uni is about expressing yourself but it isnt, its about becoming like everyone else. being able to say key words and government set tasks. I can barely stand it.
    i know i must stick out atleast the first term, for this is the hardest bit, yet i feel like this is never going to get better, any of this. i kind of think i want to up it now? but, SENSIBLE mind says to stay and keep tyring. After all, even the strangest, most socially awkward people i know have found good friends and a good cause in uni. i guess i just have to stay and see whether i hate it less.

  1691. Soo glad to see people share my hatred so far! I’ve only be there for a month in my first year at uni and I’m studying at Manchester uni because I love the city and figured it would be awesome, but its not :/ stuck inside a catered hall which I thought would be really sociable and fun and although the girls who live around me are nice enough and I do make the effort to hang out with them, its always me who has to invite myself to things; they never seem to ask. They spend so much time hanging out in each others rooms without inviting me :( I’ll try to have a convo with them when we’re in a group but I feel ignored most of the time. I’m a sociable person too and have made friends with people on my course fine so I don’t know how this has happened and now my mood has just turned to shit. I’ve found myself crying pretty much every day and every morning I wake up feeling dreadful. This is meant to be the best years of my life but its turned out to be one of the worst months everr. I just want to feel comfortable with where I’m living I’ve tried to put in a transfer form to move to another halls of residence but still haven’t heard of any vacancies and I’m now having to resort to a trip to the student guidance centre tomorrow(which means possibly counselling) to try and sort my head out. No idea how things are going to go from now :/ ehhhhh damn you uni.

  1692. I finished at a ‘leading’ northwest university and found the experience demoralising and upsetting. The institution seems much more interested in extracting as much money as possible from students than providing a good service.

    The teaching staff do not care about providing a good education. They plagiarise their coursework questions from websites or text books verbatim. Many of them do not understand what it is they are teaching and do not return emails if you try to ask a question.

    Many teaching staff spend a lot of time chatting up students they fancy and seem to give marks based on whether or not they go out with them to the bar. Safeguards and policies that are supposed to prevent this sort of favouritism are not adhered to, and you cannot complain otherwise they will gang up against you.

    Bullying occurs more at university than at school, both from staff and students. People at university tend to judge each other on very superficial traits especially Facebook profiles. Most friendships have very little real substance. If someone is ‘nice’ to you it will be because they want something (borrow money, car lifts, networking via your contacts) and end as soon as they get what they want.

    At the end of it, you’ll end up working in the same kind of job you did before you went to university, with the same pay, but with a huge debt to pay off. It will probably destroy your enjoyment of the subject you studied for life. This defeats the whole point of higher education.

    Anyone who is thinking about attending a conventional university should seriously consider choosing a more down to earth college of further education or going to the open university instead.

  1693. My university are trying to charge me £900 to write a dissertation. They say I have to pay my tuition fees but, fuck me, students on the dissertation module receive no tuition. How can universities get away with this kind of shit?

    I am not paying the £900 and I am fighting them over it. I will get them on Panorama and Watchdog if I have to, and I am tempted to contact the Office of Fair Trading.

  1694. I have to say, I love university, it’s just the hall’s I don’t like, everytime I try to be nice to my flatmates (theres 25 of us in all) they ignore me and from about 6pm until 3am they’ll stand in the corridor outside my room bitching about me and some others on our floor. I have asked them a couple of times if they can move but they won’t, the other morning they were setting off fireworks. I don’t get how people can be so mean when they know they are making people’s lives a misery.

  1695. I love this site.

    Here I am, extremely bored after spending too much time reading some university textbook nonsense which I will almost certainly forget by tomorrow morning, and now I have put the book down and come back here to see if anyone else has written anything since my last posting from earlier today. Nobody else has written anything; but never mind, I am here now so I might as well finish my rambling.

    Whilst I am here I would like to draw everyone’s attention to this article:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/8849372/University-students-increasingly-seeking-second-degrees-to-compete-for-top-jobs.html

    It basically says that a bachelor’s degree is not enough to get a good job and students also need to get postgraduate qualifications if they are to be successful in the jobs market.

    I hate my undergraduate course and I am not looking to do a masters. It looks like all my hard work could be for nothing. Even if I pass my first degree it probably won’t be enough to get a decent job. Maybe I should just quit now.

  1696. All i have time for is essays about long boring stuff. Going into seminars watching people sucking up to the seminar leader.

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  1697. To all the people who think we control our own future:

    1) my parents wanted me to go to uni and they are paying all my accommodation etc. I’m sure a lot of people don’t want to throw thousands of pounds back in their parents faces no matter how hard it is.

    2) we won’t get a job without a degree either, I’m here because so many employers expect a degree AS STANDARD.

    3) a lot of the problems seem specific to individual unis, my dad for example dropped out of 2 unis when he was younger but is now doing a degree through the open university so he can work, be at home and improve his career prospects.

    there are options people: changing uni, deciding uni’s not for you and getting on another vocational course or simply heading into the world of work. Talk to your university they will help you. I for one nearly dropped out twice in my first year but having spoken to a number of staff I was able to get back on track and though I have become disillusioned on again (which led me to this site) I now see how hard it is for lots of people and advise them to talk to someone about it before they act rashly.

  1698. On another note:

    Research staff usually lecture as part of their contract but they receive no training. Though, there are usually other staff specifically hired as teaching staff (they will be older hands who stopped serious research years back). Note, it is university culture to have smart people NOT teachers to teach higher education (whether that’s a good idea or not).

    There is a reason why teaching qualification exist: not many people have a natural talent for it and even those that do would flounder without it. This is why nearly all lecturers suck a sad but true fact.

  1699. I like the university i’m going to, like the people are nice, the campus is awesome and big. But i just hate the fucking work! high school does not prepare you at all, i’m first year and i’ve just failed two of my midterms, and i’m about to fail another one this week. I never failed anything really in high school and now i’m wondering what the fuck i’m doing wasting my money and failing crap. Why is it that for some of us if we don’t go to university our parents and family practically consider us failures, as if people who go to university are in a seperate category? It’s so stupid, i should’ve just done a skill trade fml…..

  1700. I’m leaving uni as of tomorrow and I feel so so happy :) :) It got me so down so leaving was definitely the right choice for me. Good luck to the rest of you!

  1701. Hi everyone, I feel like I’ve hit a wall with this uni thing and i dont know what to do. I hate most of my course and like alot of you are saying i feel like im getting dumber and dumber. Every day i feel more and more that im taking the wrong route. But at the same time i feel like im giving up an oppertunity that someone else could have had. Although im not enjoying my course, i have made a few friends and i know if i didnt have then i would have given up way before now. i really dont know what to do! feel like i should just power through, get over myself and just do it. but im in second year of a 4 year course and thats alot of time to waste for something you dont enjoy! I hope you all figure out what you want in life :)

  1702. Hi,

    I just started uni to study law, but to get straight to the point its not what I expected. i feel like im dumb and cant achieve anything, have not studied law previously.

    I dont know what to do i have already missed like 2 weeks of lectures and just cant seem t0 do any reading, i have an assignment to prepare for but dont know how to start it, i have brought all the books and stuff please someone help

  1703. Hey,

    So I’m my third year and on erasmus exchange at a French university. I managed to drag my sorry arse through the past two years of uni with no passion for my subject (law). I now live in a tiny room in French university dorms I don’t understand the work and can barely muster up the motivation to go to a lecture because I feel like a dumbass. I’ve been home for the last week for my half-term and have to go back tomorrow and on Thursday somehow explain to my French tutor that my assignment hasn’t been done because…(insert bullshit reason here) whereas the real reason I haven’t done it is because I hate my degree. My parents attempt to motivate me and they are probably the only reason I have kept going for two years (Yes I am a coward, the only reason I am at university is because I care what other people/ my parents think). I even feel a little guilty for posting on here because its my lack of work that is getting me into this mess where other posters have real and valid problems but you try and be motivated and ready to work when you’re in a country where you don’t know whats expected of you, where you haven’t got a friend to your name, where you see all the other British students having such an awesome time and getting their work done whilst you are stuck in your room all day because you have nowhere else to go (other than lectures). The only constant feeling I’ve had over the last two and bit years is guilt. I know I’m not doing my best and I know that isn’t going to change because I hate my subject. I just feel stupid.

    Rants over, I’ll be impressed if anyone even reads this :( .

    Best of Luck to Everyone

  1704. Dan, I can relate to your situation. I need to go on my Year Abroad next year but am so worried that it’ll turn out like you described… Good luck with it, I hope things improve. Carpe diem my friend

  1705. Apologies it could be confusing that I put my name as Dan, meant “@Dan”

  1706. Hi. I am totally relieved to have found this site to be honest because I thought I was the only one in the entire world who hates university. I’ve got to be honest, I thought I’d like the course and I don’t mind it but despite what anyone says (including my parents who are really the only reason i’m still suffering) university is not just about the course. You have to live there, and that’s the problem. I’m in first year and therefore halls of residence and quite frankly I don’t think I’ve ever suffered more in my life, I hate it! My housemates are a complete joke and all the ‘friends’ I’ve made are completely fake and I only tag along because I’d be on my own if I didn’t. So anyone out there who says university is the best time of your life had better eat their words when talking to me or they’re going to get a gob full. University sucks, can’t think of a better way to put it.

  1707. Hours into a huge essay that I only found out today, I typed “I hate university” into Google and came across this. It’s sort of put my mind at ease, but also made me realise a few things.

    The uni I got into was my second choice, and they don’t guarantee people accommodation unless you put them down as your first choice. Predictably, I didn’t get a place in halls, and so had to go looking for private accommodation. I found none, so I had to settle for the last resort: living at home.

    I’ve really tried to fit in. I’ve never been a hugely confident person, but the last two years at 6th form I think I’ve really come on in leaps and bounds. I made lots of friends, and the stability and predictability of it all was so comforting, even if I didn’t realise it at the time. I had a great summer, and while I was nervous about starting uni, I was also really excited. Fast forward a few months to the first night. I get dropped off outside the students union, knowing absolutely nobody. I walk in and everyone is already drunk and talking in their own little cliques. I really made an effort, I followed a few groups of people around but they just weren’t interested. It’s so disheartening being miles away from home, when everyone around you is happy and comfortably and you’re frightened and alone, and nothing is working out.

    I do enjoy my course, or at least most aspects of it. There are a few modules I have to do that have nothing to do with my actual degree, which are a huge pain in the arse. The lecturers for them clearly don’t give a shit about teaching us, and just rattle on monotonously in lectures, and at the end set us some reading and a task to do. I could have sat at home and not bothered coming in and got far more out of the lecture than that.

    I just walk around uni and keep having flashbacks last year, when I was in 6th form surrounded by friends that were great and teachers that I got on with. Everything was really great, but I didn’t realise it at the time. Now I’m lonely, and there’s nothing I can do. Living off campus really disadvantages you socially, especially if you’re not the most confident person in the world (not that I’m a social retard or anything, it just takes me a while to get to know people well and feel at ease with them). I’m a nice guy, I try to be friendly with people, but it just gets me nowhere. Logging on to Facebook only makes things worse; I’m so jealous of my friends and the great times they’re having. I’m so lonely, and I’m desperate to see my old friends again. The earliest I’ll be able to get together with them again is Christmas, and they’ll probably all be too busy to meet for more than a few hours or so, if they do meet at all.

    If there’s one thing I’m glad for, it’s my family. They’ve been great, and in a way, even though it wasn’t my first choice, I’m glad to be living at home just so I can see them every day.

    To sum up: university has been a pretty awful experience for me so far. I’m so lonely and despondent, I don’t think I’ll be able to do this for another three years. It’s 5Am and I can’t sleep. I feel so alone. I would do ANYTHING to go back one year, ANYTHING. I was failing my A Levels (in mostly soft subjects anyway), but the most important thing was I had my friends. I went to bed at night happy, knowing that when I got up the next day, I’d be seeing my friends, and doing things that I enjoy. Now I barely have the willpower to drag myself out of bed in the morning to go in. All I do is sit in the library on the computer in-between lectures and seminars.

    I used to look at people in my current situation who moaned about it on the internet as socially-awkward losers. Perhaps it’s karma coming back to bite me in the arse.

    I’m miserable, going to university for four years to enter the ratrace, where i’ll probably be even more miserable.

    I’ve started fantasising about civilisation collapsing. My friends all come back to my home town for winter, and some kind of catastrophic event happens. Maybe there’s a huge depression and the financial system implodes, and we all have to go back to a simpler way of living – that is my dream. To just have a simple life, surrounded by people I love. A life free from loneliness and stress.

    I realise what you’ve just read is probably a rambling, incoherent mess, and I’m sorry about that (but throw me a bone here, it is 5am and I’m extremely tired physically and emotionally). It’s been quite cathartic reading some of the comments on here, and it’d be nice to know if anyone can identify in any way with the way I feel.

  1708. I’ve realised uni is nothing but a money sucking mental institution. Lecturers really have no care about you and tell you to solve your own problems and all they care about is their next pay cheque. I thought life would get somewhat easier after high school but how mistaken I was. It has made me realise how much I have taken my sleep and free time for granted.

  1709. I absolutely hate university. I finished my A Levels in 2009 and went straight to uni. I hated it so dropped out. Two years later I’m back at a different university due to lack of job prospects and my parents being on my case every single day and quelle suprise, I hate it AGAIN.

    I know exactly what I want to do and know that it doesn’t require a degree. If I leave my parents will just be so disappointed. They keep reminding me of the fact that they struggled to pay my school fees and only did so because they thought I’d go to university.

    I don’t think I can take another three years of this!!!!

  1710. I hate university. I absofuckinglutely hate it. Everyone always goes on about how it’s the best time of their life and they met all their friends there – and it seems like everyone else has made friends fine, except me. I’m in second year, I go to all the classes and see all the stupid first years with their gaggles of friends and I don’t get it. I’m a perfectly social person, but I’m too fucking busy with all this work to be able to join any clubs or teams or whatever – and apparently I haven’t been studying enough because I just bombed my math midterm. I have no motivation to work harder at it, though – I hate math; I made it through high school math by swearing to myself that I’d never have to do math again and yet here I am, stuck doing this stupid course in fucking calculus.
    All I ever do is go to school, go to the library, come home, study and go to sleep. I have no life. I used to have a life – in high school, and the year before I went to university, I was part of all sorts of groups, had a great group of friends….but is that possible at this stupid university that is larger than a medium sized city? NO. I’m a naturally cheerful person but nowadays, whenever I have time to stop and think I just feel horribly depressed. My life is going nowhere, this degree is going nowhere and I’m stuck here for another two years. Did I mention I hate this city too? All I see when I look at my future is a big long stretch of misery, because when I finish this stupid degree, what will I do? Get a stupid job at some stupid company and work in a fucking cubicle. Or the equivalent of a cubicle. God, life sucks.

  1711. I got put into a university house with 7 international students and one british student. The internationals had been there almost a week longer than me and the other british girl, and they were already really good friends. We tried talking to them a few times but to be honest I’m quite a shy person when i’m meeting new people so I found it quite hard. As of now i’m only friends with this one girl. The rest of my housemates are always in and out of each others rooms, and some of them share rooms. They’ve never knocked on my door to invite me out and they never make an effort when i’m about the house. Me and the other girl feel completely isolated from them. One night they threw a huge house party downstairs, and we didn’t even know about it till it started. And we didn’t find out because they told us, we found out because we started to hear loads of noise. They made loads of mess and it wasn’t cleaned up for several days.
    I’ve been seeing a counsellor since I got here because I feel so alone and I really want to just be at home. But I know if I go home I will have to find a job straight away and honestly I have no idea what I want to do. I’m a 4 hour car journey and a £50 train ticket from home so I can’t exactly just visit whenever I want, but i’m so homesick. I came back to university yesterday after being at home for a week, and the second my parents drove away to go back home again I couldn’t stop crying. It’s such a nightmare being here for me. I find it so hard to work cos I am so depressed.
    My boyfriend at his university is doing just fine. He has quite a few friends, including 2 who went there from our secondary school, and he gets to go out quite a bit. I love him so much but the way he speaks to me nowadays, it makes university even worse than it already is, because I feel like half the time I don’t even have him to count on either. He barely treats me with respect anymore.
    I have no idea what to do. I feel like i’m stuck here when all I want is to go home to my family. I have very few friends, i’ve only been out twice since i’ve been here, and the course is interesting but I feel I just can’t cope with it.

  1712. hey kelly,

    Do you like your course? That’s half the battle if there are aspects of your course you like, gives you something to focus on. Its good though that you have the british girl to talk to, youre not completely alone…
    Is this your first year?

  1713. i’m in my third year and due to relationship and friends i have suffered a great deal now i’m thinking of either changing degrees to do something eassier or just dropping out. what do you suggest?

  1714. @Kelly from Katie

    Kelly, having read your post and obvioulsy looking at your issues from a different standpoint, I really think you should just leave. I’m in my third year of a History course and I can understand how you feel. I’ve moved 3 hours away from my home in Devon and I’m homesick, I’ve not made many friends but that’s my fault because I’m two years older than them all and to be honest, I don’t want to get into the whole student life thing and I don’t need to because I have my amazing friends back in Devon. Anyway, what I need to say to you is this – If university is making you feel like this, then just leave. Please. I wish I could meet you over a coffee to tell you all that you need to hear – you do not need to be there Kelly. If your parents were to know how you’re feeling they’d be devestated. I’m sure they wouldn’t want you to feel like this. Why are you there? Do you feel pressure from society and family? I do. I want to quit now, in my third year, but I feel I can’t because of what my friends, family and society will think of me. But, I have realised in the past year, that educational instituations are there to form us into ‘worker-bees’ i.e. people who live to work. (I don’t think I’m explaining this very well!) Society has us brainwashed to believe that those in life who are successful are those who have a degree and and an amazing job. I’m not denying that they’re not very clever and worthy, rather, I’m saying that there are other ways. Especially if you’re feeling like you do. Do you know what I’m doing whether I finish my degree or not? I’m starting my own business. I’m doing it on my own. I’m CREATING MY OWN JOB and by doing that, I don’t need a degree. My boyfriend and I are setting up an exclusive European car tours company (we are able to do this because of our contacts through family and because of our utter passion and determination to succeed and creat our own job). He has just graduated with a degree in Motorsport Engineering, but he’s not going to use it and he says that since he’s realised that he doesn’t need to use it he’s felt a huge sense of relief and freedom. Kelly, think of something you love. Anything. What is it? What ever it is, type it into Google and see what comes up, because I can assure you that there is a job there surrounding it – one that you could search for in another company or one that you could create yourself. (I love being creative, so I set up my own handmade card company and now I have gone into restoring old furniture and I love it so much that this is why I’m thinking of leaving in the third year. Everyday I wake up and think ‘oh God, I’ve got uni’ or ‘oh God, I’ve got 5 assignments due in 4 weeks and a dissertation to do!!’ and it makes me feel terrible and I just don’t think it’s worth it) The important thing is to do what you want to do and to be happy. I know it’s a cliche, but life is short, and if you ask me, there is no point in being utterly lonely and feeling awful for how ever many years you have left of your degree. If you can, talk to your parents – let them know how bad it really is and I’m sure they’ll support you in whatever you choose to do. You can do anything, and you have a choice. If you don’t want to do it, if it’s not right for you, then YOU can decide and make the choice to end it. If you want to talk about some more or to talk to a friendly person (me!), then send an email on my Facebook page (I don’t want to give out personal emails and Facebook details on here but I feel compelled to help you). http://www.facebook.com/kateshandmadecards

  1715. Madame Bianca Jones

    Did I cry when my boyfriend broke up with me? No. Did I cry when my grandfather died? A bit. Did I cry when I had to write another first year sociology paper? YES!!!!! Never broke down like that EVER in my fucking life!!! There is no room for creativity or a chance to explore.

    I’m awesome at school. I hang out and party on WEEKDAYS (tequila tuesdays woot woot!), haven’t opened some of my texts book and still getting A+++. But I get no enjoyment out of the marks I get. I won’t even feel any joy at graduating with a degree. NO JOY.

    That’s why I’m dropping out. FUCK YOU UNIVERSITY! CHOP YOUR COCK OFF AND DIE!

    Going to do something fun like travel whenever I want and visit family when I want. I was able to save money from a low wage job to go to school without having to work. I don’t need a classy job or getting fucked in the ass job or a Ph-fucking-D to be HAPPY!

  1716. I have been a student for quite some time now and it is starting to kill me. The quality of education at UK universities has declined sharply since I started five years ago and it is now barely worth it – everyone has a degree these days and there just aren’t enough jobs for the thousands of new graduates coming out of the system each year. Graduate recruiters are very picky about who they take on due to budget cuts and the general low quality of the graduates they are presented with.

    As for everything else, you’re all mostly right. The idea of university being the time of your life is a myth which is only subscribed to by first years on low-effort and pointless courses who have basically only just started. My friends and I all lived it up as students and really enjoyed it, however my friends all work full time and they say they prefer it because they have money and structure in their lives and there is still plenty of time at evenings and weekends for socialising as they never have any work to do, unlike at university where there is always some reading to do or some artificial and pointless assignment to grind through for no real reason except box ticking. At university, you have much less real free time than you think and it’s something a lot of people don’t realise or consider.

    I have done 9-5 jobs and my friends agree with me that it’s actually less work than studying for a degree, and we get paid for it. I don’t see how being poor, working harder than your full time employed parents (while unpaid, remember) and having pockets of dead time which you can’t do anything with can possibly be the time of your life. Lecturers are generally very pretentious, stuck up, full of themselves and don’t care about you or how well you do and for some reason they all look like hobos. The courses are often very half-hearted and boring, with little that will benefit you in a career and often very little that you can’t teach yourself. In fact, you’re usually told crap about “self directed learning” which basically means “teach yourself everything yet still pay the university £3000 a year for the useless piece of paper at the end”. The social life is cliquey and fake (I have been to three universities personally and been a guest at four others. It’s the same everywhere and a common theme rather than a problem at the one I went to) and hardly anyone I knew joined societies simply because they don’t have time due to workloads.

    As for friends for life? Well, my parents went to university in the early 1980s and did a popular course, met hundreds of people – 30 years on they are in contact with about 5 of the hundreds of people they met. Even then it’s usually a meal once a year or a Christmas card, not a sustained friendship.

    The whole process also takes too long. Why does it take three or four years? If you shorten the ridiculously long holidays where you lose momentum/motivation and don’t even want to go back, you could do it all in 18 months or 2 years max and working harder over a shorter period means faster and smarter learning as well as looking better to employers. My Masters degree finishes in December but I have to wait until August 2012 before I can actually graduate. Because of the crazy timescales, I’m not going to the ceremony because I refuse to put my life on hold for any longer.

    I am one month off completing my Masters degree and it cannot come soon enough. I have been in the system too long and am now burned out. I feel physically sick whenever assignments or exams are mentioned and I have absolutely had enough – even people talking about their own university experiences can be enough to set me off.

    I did my undergrad degree at a Top 10 UK university and have good work experience and a good CV. My subject is in demand and in a growth area with plenty of job opportunities available but I am worried that I will be rejected simply because I have been a student for so long that recruiters and HR people will think I am institutionalised and out of touch with the real world like most lecturers are. It’s also far, far too easy to get into university these days and there are too many second rate universities teaching second rate courses which are cash cows and provide the students with nothing of any value. £90k a year is considered “low” pay for university Principals and Vice Chancellors who work four day weeks and do no research or teaching. I have seen salaries of as much as £500k before – absolutely appalling considering how poorly paid academic staff generally are and that the education system is in meltdown and higher education budgets are being slashed left and right.

    Back to my story… I switched courses after two years and had to do a foundation year on the new course to catch up which put me a year behind my original graduation date. I then took the Masters because it seemed interesting and took me into a growth area. Because of all this, I have school friends who graduated 2-3 years ago and love their jobs while earning very good if not excellent money. Some are now buying houses and one has got engaged. I have none of this and feel like a complete bum especially considering I am about six months older than most of them on average yet am the furthest behind in life. Yes this is my own fault for choosing the Masters but it specialises me into a growing area with good money and prospects, so I hope it will pay off but at the same time I worry it will not as I have been in the system too long and will put off employers.

    From my experience, my advice is don’t stay in the system a split second longer than you have to. Don’t go straight into postgraduate study from your undergraduate degree. Take a break, experience the real world, travel, earn some money, be normal… you can always come back to university part time at a later date if you feel like your qualifications are inadequate. My advice is do it part time alongside your job so that you keep your feet on the ground and continue building your CV and being normal like everyone else.

    Don’t stay in the system forever, because at that point you will end up with a PhD and therefore become yet another pretentious, rude academic charlatan. People with PhDs can’t have real careers as no recruiter will touch them due to spending too long in the academic mould. I know people doing PhDs and they are in a much worse situation than I am in, they truly are ready to crack and I feel sorry for them. These American “Grad Students” in particular aged 30 and living in a one room apartment while claiming food stamps really are sad, pathetic specimens and people are right in pointing and laughing. Nobody I know who has ever done a PhD has ever been properly able to explain quite why they chose to do it, seems like a skive to avoid getting a real job, and they are always scrabbling around looking for opportunites to gain employment boosting skills because they know that the PhD will trip them up rather than help them. That’s missing the point entirely I’m afraid.

    The fact is that kids are fed propaganda from the word “go” about how university is the only way forward and doing anything else makes you a bum and a loser. Well, that’s crap. It’s very expensiv (with accommodation costs often being greater than tuition fees to the point of extortion and student loans not going nearly far enough) and often very uninspiring/dull not to mention that the fees in England and Wales are going up to max. £9000 a year next year with absolutely no guarantee of an increase in quality, seeing the fee rises are there to plug Government funding gaps. If the prospectus gave a properly balanced and fair account of what university life is, then I bet half the people there now wouldn’t ever have bothered applying.

    I’d rather go into a respectable trade e.g. plumbing, which pays very well, without a degree than get a poor degree in a poor subject and not be able to find any kind of work at all as a result. Sorry if this became less balanced and more of a rant as it progressed, but I wanted to try and let it all out.

  1717. showmethemoney

    I frigging hate uni! ARGH! Im in my final year and my lecturers are pieces of sh!t- seriously! They cut half my marks off an essay because I did not include subheadings! I mean what the hell – the whole class did really well so obviously they need to show one person as having bad grades so they decided to nitpick and blame it on the most insignificant thing ever! I am fuming right now! All they want is your damn cash- they dont give a crap about how you do in your degree or where you end up – urgh so annoying! I swear I feel like ripping her hair out – how she got a phd ill never understand the effing twat.
    I know Im cursing alot but this really wound me up- after 3 years of intensive studying and she decides to tripme on the last hurdle and make it much more difficult for me to graduate. I hate her guts and I hate the uni for allowing this.
    All I have to say is Im so glad I’m not paying 9 grand for uni next year -word of avice for those deciding to pay that much- dont- it really isnt worth it. You hardly get any help from the lecturers and will end up doing everything yourself.You might as well do it with ICS for a fraction of the price.
    Sorry for the ramble but had to get it off my chest and vent my frustrations

  1718. I hate university mostly because almost everything is prescribed and it feels like a rat race…Assignments are of course a total pain in the neck with every aspect of them…more like a near death experience sometimes…lol…Drunken,loud students are another problem if you’re living in the halls…and then some more…lol God help us…

  1719. University is a living hell. I am currently writing an essay due in for Wednesday on a topic i have absolutely posses no knowledge or passion for. This is my first university essay and i am already struggling. I wish i could change subjects however it is far too late to do that now.

  1720. Im two exams away from having a Bachelors Degree. Im finding it really hard to study. I didnt go to any of the lectures this semester, which was a pretty stupid idea.
    Im just so burnt out, after nearly three years of doing something that I really dont enjoy Ive had enough.
    My family are always bagging me out for having no life, but Ive just got no drive anymore. Plus im broke.
    Studying has never been something im good at. But when I was finishing high school people pretty much said that the only way you’re going to get a good job is if you go to university, which is bullshit. But I believed it, and even though I wasnt sure what I wanted to do I still applied for a bunch of courses.
    I got into one of them, so I went straight to uni after I finished school. After about 6 months I wanted to drop out, but my parents wouldnt allow it, they basically said if I dropped out id be a failure and id never have a ‘real’ job.
    So I stuck it out, now that im nearly finished ive come to the realisation that my course is virtually useless on its own, and i’d only be able to get into an entry level job anyway. So I have to do at least one more year if I want to get paid enough to ever pay off my student loan which is reaching the $20000 mark.
    And even at this stage, 3 years into a degree im still not entirely sure what I want to do with my life.

    My advice to anyone considering uni would be that if you are absolutely sure of what you want to do as a career go ahead, you’ll probably enjoy it. But if you are unsure of what you want to do take a gap year, work for a while, earn some money, make the most of the independence and think about it for a year. If your still unsure take another year off, uni can wait.

    I made the mistake of diving in headfirst, without really knowing what I was getting myself into, or knowing what I wanted to get out of it.

  1721. I suck at being a student

    I am studying for exams at the moment, going over lecture notes and what not.
    I dont go to lectures coz I live quite far away from uni and its not worth wasting so much petrol to attend one one hour lecture every day.
    I should still have looked at the lecture notes during the semester though, but im just so lazy. Regret consumes me.
    I just realized, while going over my lecture notes that for one of my major assignments I left out a lot of essential information. Like I pretty much wrote about all the wrong stuff. Plus it was handed in one day late and 500 words below the word limit. And it was worth like 35% of my total mark, if I fail that assignment I’ll have to get like an A on my exam just to pass. Which is highly unlikely because, as mentioned above, I didnt go to any lectures and so I have like 4 days to learn 15 weeks of info.
    I know its all my fault. But but at that point I was so far past the point of caring. I just wanted to hand it in and forget about it.
    Im such a fucking dickhead.

  1722. Yeah. University blows. I’m taking prerequisites atm for the Bsc and I hardly meet people that would want to be your friend. Everyone seems like there stoned, and the professor that has been teaching for 30+ years believes he will give you the smallest and shitiest example and expect you to understand it. Then for 4 hrs I find websites that explain it better than the professor does. I might change to online schooling for these pre-req’s because I’m not getting the satisfaction out of in-classroom classes. Then 3 days later he throws me a test that I fail. I wonder if I’m either wasting my time, or should change to online schooling. But mainly, the teachers are fucking slack-ass lazy that don’t thoroughly explain things, most people that attend rich fake snobs that drive there audi’s that mommy and daddy bought for them, or just a bunch of fuckin high-school burnout’s that are now uni burn outs cause commom sense hasn’t kicked in. I feel like I’m around fuckin losers all day. All the girl’s here are cunts and stuck up. It’s really hard to meet someone to talk with and to study with; just a piss-off. And everyone expects you to pull off atleast a 3.7 gpa to get into med school while dealing with all this horse-shit attending ?For fuck sakes people help me out here this shit is pathetic.

  1723. Hi hate university. I’m studying geography in bristol. I’ve made a couple of mates but nothing to shout about. I hate geography, its dull, boring and pointless. I don’t live in halls so I don’t get the typical university experience. I have no money, no motivation and I’m miserable all the time.

  1724. Been at uni for 2 months now.
    I have made no friends – it’s not that my flatmates or the people on my course aren’t nice , I just haven’t “clicked” with anyone. The first two weeks were fun I guess but I just haven’t settled in well, but I’m not missing home…
    I dunno, it’s weird. I’ve never not had friends before :S
    Don’t like my course either. It’s just not creative enough for me and spends too much time trying to prove to people that it is an academic subject (I’m doing Cinema & Photography but they’ve thrown loads of completely irrelevant modules in to make it more “intellectual” but it’s just bullshit!!!!).
    I have two v.important essays due in on Thursday 17th and so far I’ve only written 200 words of one… crap. And only went to one lecture this week – kind of disappointed in myself. I’m completely unmotivated and really don’t want to be here anymore but I have no other option. I’m stuck here.

  1725. Been at Uni 2 months now…absolutley hate it! kept changing courses, didnt know what i wanted 2 do! then finally picked the right one, but its NOT what i expected. Uni’s just full of stuck up snobs, who act like they know it all…the lectureres dont even help, i see now at Uni your truly on your own. im going 2 be thoussands of pounds in debt, all bcoz of a “degree”. dunno y this country has made us feel like we’re nothing without a degree. we spend a quarter of our lifes…..yep, around 25years just in education. it didnt use 2 bother me, but im beggining 2 c its actually crazyyy! education takes up all of my time. dropping out is not even an option for me, my parents would murder me. I obviously knew a degree would be hard, but this is honestly just ridiculous !! one assignment after the other, with NO help at all. Now im scared im going 2 fail 1st year and have 2 repeat it, i’d actually cry if that happened. Every1 made Uni out 2 be soooo good, “uni experience” and that *rolls eyes* Yeeah Right ! Social life is dead, im broke already, and depressed. Cant do this for 3 whole years. plus, i have 2 study for another 3 years after just 2 do something with this flippin degree. Is this life? *sighs*

  1726. University does not give fair and equitable experiences. I am a mature age student who is having trouble with an unprofessional manner my lecturer is using to set exam. He wrote an exam with questions on twenty topics. He is the only one who know the questions. He then set a task for the studetns to pick a topicand presnt that topic to the other students . The only information we get is from the powerpoint, Nobody knows if they even put the right information on their slides that pertains to what he has put in the exam but that is what he is doingand the exam is in two days and we could all we wasting our time even looking at the ppts I should not be responsible for wether the other students have the coreect informations to pass the exam or not especiially when he in the only one who knows what is on the test. It sounds like he is testing our psychic ability not our knowledge. I worked in education before this and I have never seen an exam set this way before. Nobody in their right mind would set an exam and then tell someone else to teach the content without sonsulting what content they need to be teaching. This is bogus and I AM FUCKING HATING UNIVERSITY RIGHT NOW. i AM a HD(High distinction) and belong to an honour society) STUDENT ALL THE WAY BUT BECAUSE OF THIS HE WILL PROBABLY FAIL ME JUST BECASUE i HAVE TOLD HIM IT IS NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO STUDENTS. hE INSULTS US AND BELITTLES US AND i FIND HIS BEHAVIOUR EXTREMELY UNprofessional AND IF i WAS in any WORKFORCE i HAVE EVER BEEN IN THERE WOULD BE SOME WAY FOR ME TO RESOLVE MY WORKMATES UNPROFESSIONALISM BUT NOT HERE THEY IGNORE YOU AND THEN FAIL YOU BECAUSE THE IDIOT LECTURER is TOO LAZY TO LEARN HOW TO SET A CURRICULUM. I am going to the Dean after the exam and this is going to be war on his ass. I don’t care if they kick me out I am forty years old and paying for an education to be delivered by someone who knows what the fuck he is doing. Most of the other lecturers know what they are doing and i enjoy their classes and the course load. There is a serious lag when i am typing so i can’t see what i am doing so excuse my mistakes. This guy seriously hates me now because I have turned the students against him after explaining to thew unethical it is to set an exam for students this way. I know when i am right and in this case I am right and he is most definatley wrong.

  1727. I completely understand what you are going through, I have stayed in my home city and go to the University here. I have even moved into halls thinking it would make socialising way easier, but I still feel totally isolated!

    I only stayed here because it was one of 2 Uni’s that did the course I am on. Don’t get me wrong I love my course and I have made a few “friends” but it’s just not what I expected at all.

    I took a year out and saw all my friends go off to Uni and have a great time and so I was dead excited about starting this year, but if anything it’s made me less included in groups. It’s difficult to explain really.

    I would do anything to have all my old friends come back and be like it used to be, but they are all off making new friends and aren’t interested anymore. Even my friends that haven’t gone to Uni are off earning money and loving what they do.

    My flatmates were initially all lovely and I really enjoyed freshers etc. but I have now realised I wasn’t “popular” they just talked to me because I know the city and knew good places to go out. Now they just talk to me if they want to now how to get to a place or how to turn the oven on. I have barely seen any of them for the past 3 days and when I have there’s barely been a “hello” or a “where have you been.” Whenever I go to the shop or even to do my washing I ask if anyone wants anything, but never get anything in return. Most of them went to a party the other night and I wasn’t even asked, they do it quite a lot. They eventually rang me and asked me to go because there weren’t many girls there :/ just there to make up the numbers?

    Maybe I just care too much, or maybe I am just being stupid. But it’s like everyone has their own agenda and will use whoever they need to get there. It’s just rubbish.

  1728. I cannot agree with every one any more! I am now in my third year Bsc and I honestly do not know how I have survived the past 2 years. I have made a handful of great friends but even that isn’t enough to keep my motivation going.

    You constantly hear about the fun of “UNIVERSITY LIFE” and I am still yet to find it. Coming from a less priveledged background has meant I have had to work my way through uni and lucky for me I took a year out before commencing my studies and found a very well paid job to see me through. Unfortunately my well paid job also brings its own stresses and I have now found that the past two years of my life have seemed to vanish into thin air.

    My social life/creativity/personal relationships/happiness have all suffered because of university and I find myself never having a spare thought or minute to myself. The only thing that has got me through the past two years is knowing that after exams you can have a short break.

    Most of the time I just find myself in a haze, the quality of education you recieve is apalling! Lecturers treat you like lower class citezens and expect you to know everything and considering I am studying a SCIENCE degree, I do not see what is so scientific about trying to develop some sort of pre-cognition!

    Then to top it off I was pleased to hear I had received a mark of 88% :) but because the grade below mine was 72% my work was sent to an external marker to be remarked who lowered the mark to 82%! Then as it was still high it got sent to 2 additional markers who absolutely wripped my work to shreds and lowered my mark to 75%! Still a good mark (to me) but the comments and scribbles I received all over my work were awful! They marked me down for my headings, format even the location of my page numbers!!! And there was me thinking that university was meant to praise academic acheivment even if it is all regurgitated nonsense!

    Now…….feeling the burn out of university once again (and its not even christmas!) I have now marked my final day on my calendar and will look forward to crossing out each day until that day arrives. For now I have put my life and happiness on hold for something that is now relatively worthless in my eyes but I know that although university promotes a hellish life, enduring such misery will only make me appreciate my freedom even more!!!

    ROLL ON 2012 (If the world does end i’m FUCKED!!!)

  1729. 5 months left to go.. its been the worst four years of my life. If anyone tells you its going to be the best, ignore them, they lie.

  1730. I cant believe i have just found this site..you have no idea how happy it makes me to read peoples posts on here. I thought i was the only person going through this!

    I have only been at uni for 4 weeks but I HATE IT in a way i never thought possible. I only have it 3 days a week. So you would think i should be happy right? Not.

    I have a timetable of 9am to 5pm every day.

    And each LONG hour consists of me listening to a lecturer ramble on, then we are made to work in “teams” coming up with USELESS amounts of paperwork on things that have nothing to do with the bloody course!

    As for the people..i have never been this lonely in my entire life. I literally feel like i have noone. I just broke up with my boyfriend (really didn’t need that stress right now) and i have NO friends at uni at all. All the girls in my class are BITCHES. They write things about me on fb etc like really..i didn’t know i was paying over 3k a year to be transported back to primary school.

    I hate it so much.

    I have noone to talk to..

    The only thing keeping me from dropping out of uni is fear.

    Fear of failure.

    Fear of not having any income once i drop out as i am currently scraping by on loans and a 500 pound overdraft.

    I have to wake up and drag my depressed ass out of bed at 6.30am every day to travel the long journey to that shithole to be around people I really cant stand and to stress myself over work i dont find relevant..

    And im not an unsociable person..i have had no problems before.

    Uni has made me feel like im some sort of freak

    Thank god i found this site.

    It has made me feel a bit less alone knowing you are all going through this..

    I wish we all went to the same place and could join up as one massive fuck uni group and be best friends.

    My life right now is so not how i wanted it to be.

    I HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT UNI

    I really don’t know what im going to do :(

  1731. Hahah google brings this site to the top of the list. So good. Post-secondary educations are a joke and a cash grab. They could care less about your future successes. That was the old days and traditional thinking. You went to school, got a good job, set for life.

    Today its just not like that… not even close.

  1732. From my experience, I would not recommend sticking out a degree you do not enjoy, especially if you are in your first year. It’s a waste of time. Just transfer or something.

    I’m in my 4th year of uni right now and it is exam period right now. It’s good to see some people also feel the same way because I don’t feel comfortable telling people at university that I did not enjoy the past 4 years. It feels shameful because it feels like I’ve done something wrong.

    During my undergraduate I was quite excited about uni at first but was put down by a guy for being too excited and that hurt. I was also unaccustomed to travelling an hour each way by public transport and saw some really filthy things. My parents were ashamed that I did not get a perfect ENTER score (the Australian version of high school score) so they lied about my ENTER which I was proud of since at my public school only a maximum of 20 students could get above 80 (out of 99.95). I now have a fear of even talking to my relatives who all think I got above 90 and am studying to be a doctor. When in reality, I was very excited to be studying a B.Sc majoying in chemical engineering.

    Unfortunately, my maths skills were very poor and things got very confusing. Especially in the maths combined with engineering classes. That was awful. I am a sore loser though and forced myself through the three years of undergraduate study resenting every moment and even the people I did spend time with (I wasn’t invited to the outings they had either – although in hindsight, I don’t blame them, like I said, I was in a bitter mood).

    The final straw for me was an industry night, as soon as I walked through the door and saw the first table I paused and had a mild panic attack – it was this complete fear of actually working in the field and this complete lack of confidence in myself. Did I mention that I went from this confident girl in high school to this girl who had a period of stuttering in 3rd year? It was awful. I stopped caring for the way I looked and gained a bit of weight which also reflected on my skin. Anyway, after all that, I finished my degree with the last semester part time, anyway but was too scared to look into other options so I finally did what my parents wanted me to do and now I am doing a degree in accounting.

    I tried to make friends but maybe I am really weird? Whatever it is it probably has something to do with language and background as well or maybe I smell funny? But I am one of a handful of local students. And I wish I could form a connection with them. I mean, I try to be friendly but it doesn’t feel the same as high school friendships or something?

    My friendships from my undergraduate degrees weren’t strong either. It’s been a semester through my post-grad degree and at this stage I don’t really care if I can not form many solid friendships without the right connection. I am happy with just a handful of friendships, as long as they are nice people I can trust and go out every now and then with.

    Anyway, my undergraduate class was divided into international students and small groups of local students. The cool looking locals at the back and dorks like myself at the front :D I thought the one girl who could handle my presence constantly (bless her soul – I am a cow and I pushed her out of my life after my degree finished – I question her morals and ethics) she used the other people in the class and I felt like she was a suck up. I don’t like suck ups or users. At least the people in my current class are honest. Save for one, who I feel is a user.

    These years are shaping up to be the ones I will regret the most by the looks of things. It also looks like I am going to have very few friends by the time I graduate and I hear it is difficult to make more when people entre the workforce. But at least I don’t feel as sad as I used to. One year and this current exam period to go.

    By the way, even though I dislike office work and accounting and I probably won’t get great marks and enter the big 4 firms (which everyone wants and it makes me feel they are shallow, money and prestige hungry) these few years have made me realise that I only truly want to be happy with a few good friends. Sadness is unbearable.

  1733. Disappointed Student

    This website is great. I thought I was the only one.. as if I was the only one hating uni.

    Since I was a kid, I’ve naturally enjoyed creating. Movies, Art, Food… As I got older, I channeled my talents and found main interests in Filming and Sound Production. However, I maintained an interest in academic subjects like Astronomy, Quantum Physics, and Psychology.

    When growing up, I was always told a degree was the most valuable achievement in life. I was reminded this always. During A-Level exams, getting prepared for uni, I was told I was about to set off to have the best four years of my life. I was told I was going to meet life-long friends. I assumed I would meet a lot of people from all walks of life, be extremely active within campus and off campus, learn loads of new skills.

    What have I done? NONE of these. I’m in my fourth bloody year and have seriously felt like my life has gone downhill since I went to uni. I was a confident, motivated and more of a lively person before joining uni. Let me list the problems:

    1) Didn’t make any lasting friends. I left school going out every weekend, to uni where I stay in almost every weekend.

    2) Depending on your uni, the work can be utter bullshit and pointless. Don’t you dare refute a professor’s comment, because they’re always right.

    3) A lot of bullshit requirement classes – I can’t even bloody remember my last year’s classes without having a bit of a think about it. I was so uninterested.

    4) I HAVE HARDLY ANY OF THE SKILLS I HOPED TO GAIN!!!

    Coming to the end of the first half of my fourth year, I really WONDER what the hell I did to myself. Can a degree really be THIS IMPORTANT if it is costing me possibly the best years of my life? Am I really sacrificing my social life, my ability, my motivation… for a piece of paper?

    When most of the top brands today were created by entrepreneurs with no degree.. How can I let myself slave away like this.

  1734. Disappointed Student

    I mean I’m being forced to go to uni by my parents but my MIND IS SET OUT to so much bigger and better things.

    Fair enough, a degree is great to secure yourself for the future, but why have the LIFE drained out of me for 4 years, when perhaps I could’ve spent time on things I was more passionate and focused about.

    MAYBE THEN I might have created something valuable and business worthy, rather than try force myself to soak in useless information to memorize for a term!!!!

  1735. I am really fed up. Sick of working my arse off working on pointless crappy assignments when other people can hand in half-finished rubbish three days late and get the same grade as someone who put the effort in.

    If they dont get the same high grade then they’ll get a low one and be happy with it – what’s the point in paying all that money and ending up with crappy grades just by being lazy? Why are these people so happy about underachieving especially in a recession where everyone has to be as good as possible to just get an interview? Either way there is no incentive or reason to actually work hard as it doesn’t pay off!

    It’s just so pointless!! If you leave you leave with nothing! Unlike a real job where you can get a reference, find another job and have some money in your pockets to tide you over.

    University is rubbish. I go to a top 10 UK university – in case you were wondering it’s in the north of England in a smallish ancient town with a cathedral – and do a subject I really enjoyed at school and has good career prospects. That said, the academic framework has destroyed me and I dont know how these lecturers can make such interesting topics so damned boring. My brain is frazzled and I can’t focus anymore. The social side is all well and good if you actually have time to do it – anyone beyond second year just doesn’t and the idea of working up to 12 hours a day while unpaid on pointless poorly-explained BS just to tick boxes and pass exams really loses its appeal very quickly.

    I also don’t understand why we are expected to work so hard when the lecturers go home at 4.30pm every day – some of them don’t even work five days a week either – and take up to six weeks to return coursework we hand in given we spent weeks doing it. My dad earns about £80k a year in a professional office based career yet does less work than I do, bearing in mind that I am practically broke. Something about this doesn’t add up or make sense. If you want a real kick in the balls, look at a university’s HR webpages about why you should work for them – flexible work-life balance, competitive pay and benefits, subsidised this and that… you know, all the things that broke students paying up to £9000 a year as of 2012 aren’t entitled to? It’s a total insult.

    I have one year to go and am very worried about actually making it out intact not to mention that finding a job will be a real struggle!

  1736. The world you perceive outside yourself is illusory. Life is not serious – it simply is that which cannot be named but can only be known.

  1737. Oh god, I can totally relate to everyone here… I’m in my first year, I attend university of toronto and I HATE IT!!!
    The students are okay, I’ve made some “friends” (depending on your definition of friend), but I fucking hate it.. my classes are fucking huge, there’s like 1400 students in 2 of my classes, the professors don’t give a shit about you, the teaching assistants are complete asses, the univeristy itself just wants to fucking fail you, god forbid that your class does well on one test, then they’ll make the next one so goddamn hard so that the average comes down.. I have to bloody commute to uni EVERY FUCKING DAY, and it takes me two hours not to mention that I have to do it during rush hour with a bunch of morons breathing and coughing in my face coz its fucking rush hour and there’s barley enough space to breathe.. then I have to attend a bunch of boring ass lectures about a load of crap that really doesn’t matter, and once thats done I have to run like an idiot to my next class so that I can sit in the front.. FUCK MY LIFE.. I wish my dad was a billionaire so that I could just relax, travel, and live my goddamn life… oh well one can dream :( .. unfortunatley my parents are the strictest people to exist on the face of this planet, I have no choice but to put up with this bullshit for another four years.. life is so goddamn shitty.. good luck to you guys

  1738. I know how you feel Kylie. I was at uni for 8.5 years and it was bloody painful on top of that I have a learning disability. On top of that I was knifed in the back for group assignments and one of them failed as a result. Remember making friends is completely different to gaining RESPECT from collegues in the workplace. You need to earn the respect of people to be well known. Just because people have many friends doesn’t mean they are respected to a level.

  1739. Two degrees and changing after the first 4 years.

  1740. Kylie,

    Remember that “great marks and enter the big 4 firms” is shooting yourself in the foot. I am a mining engineer and I prefer to work for Mid Tier companier than the mining giants like Rio Tinto and BHP Billiton. Big companies are so hierarchical so at the end of the day you get very little experience and career development compared to small companies which give you GOOD RESPONSIBILITY therefore you progress a lot FASTER. Remember DON’T FOLLOW THE CROWD. ALL the best.

  1741. I am a first year student at a top 10 school in Canada (known for medicine). When I’m not on my way to and from class, working on papers and memorizing formulas I am completely stressed out. I have become high strung as shit. I live in student housing with my best friend and its destroying our mutual relationship. I cant help but question everything. Preparing food is time consuming and buying food is so damn expensive. I’ve experienced professors punish entire lectures by the behavior of a select few students, TA’s talk shit about the crookedness of the entire system. (Actually had one tell me they could lose their jobs by what they tell me.) .. well if you’re job is regarded so high in society why would you risk losing it on just another spec in the system. I have lost complete trust in my fellow man. I’ve actually caught myself shaking my head in discussion with classmates in utter disagreement with anything going on. I find myself walking in circles questioning my existence and on websites like this more than doing my studies. I am becoming institutionalized and there is nothing I can do about it. Save yourselves, all I am is another brick in the wall. Oil on the jaw of the machine that we feed our brilliant minds.

  1742. 4th year student here. The impending realization that I actually might have to leave uni (even though at this point I hate this place) keeps reminding me of the Shawshank Redemption, where that guy eventually kills himself upon being released from prison. It’s like being mentally stuck, wherein the looming prospect of that moment where you go “Holy Shit, it’s over?” makes you doubt yourself when the education system is all I’ve ever known. But at the same time, hopefully I do graduate because at this point, I owe it to myself and my parents. Now if I can just get these fuckin papers done…

    P.S. To all the first years out there who are having a hard time, just remember to do what is best for you and yours. Stay happy and healthy and remember to keep the bigger picture in mind.

  1743. morgwith garaseen

    I wasn’t a high flyer either. University life was difficult. However, I invited my supervisor to our wedding in 1967. He and his wife came to that wedding. A couple of years ago he invited my wife and me to his 80th birthday party. We’d kept in touch all that time in between. I am so grateful to him for keeping in touch. He must have thousands of grateful friends around the world.

  1744. 4 weeks til the christmas break guys, come on we can do it!! :D

  1745. Preston St. Peterson

    My experience so far is thus:

    I don’t hate university, more I dislike the fact I procrastinate at any given moment and end up handing in well below par essays compared to my actual standard. I leave 2500 essay untill an hour before and worry constantly. This isn’t helped by the fact I am racked with guilt for leaving it all to the last minute and not fulfilling my full potential. I do not want sympathy, as I am aware this comes natural to most students, but I would love there to be support for people like me whos truggle to get motivated and are a threat to their own success. Is it just the case that people like me should have not entered academia?

  1746. I just have to say I’m astonished at the number of entries in this blog. Just wow.

    I’m in my first term of uni and I thought I was the only one struggling. I hate the way you know somewhere on campus are people best suited to you, and you could be walking past them every day, and never ever meet them. I know it’s creepy to just walk upto people and try to meet them, but why is there this convention that you have to be in a situation with somebody to meet them. When i walk past people on the footpath i often wonder if they actually want to talk to me too, or if they want to keep themselves to themselves, but if i say anything, that’s just weird and awkward.

    Small parts of my teaching so far have been great but not much, a few lecturers in particular have a decent atmosphere about them and get it that we’re students and we don’t instantly understand everything. Unfortunately I only get these lecturers for a short amount of time. Some lecturers are absolutely terrible I honestly don’t know how they think we can do their work. If you asked me what I thought I was paying for, I couldn’t answer you, and neither could they. I feel truly bad for the 9k generation. Unless you are absolutely extremely dead set on what you want to do, stay away from uni.

  1747. Im not even in university and i have to type of all my fucking sisters shit she higlighted in her text boook on to the fucking laptop. FUCK IT.

  1748. I don’t get it. There are wayyyy too many people on the net cribbing about hating uni.. If so many people hate it, why do half the people GO there, and why doesn’t anyone do something radical to change it? Oh well, aint happenin for a long long time.
    I hate uni too and I am in my final year. About 4-5 months left. hopefully I can stick it till the end.
    It sucks though cz I am in one of the best courses in the best uni in the country but i still dont feel the sense of satisfaction or happiness when I announce this to people. Well, isn’t this what going to an amazing uni is about? Boasting afterwards? It’s not fun. Not at all.. all the clubs, meetings, LABS! boring lectures. It’s killing me. I literally copy/paste half the assignments and don’t really have a fucking idea about the crap I write.
    IN FACT, I have an exam the day after, for which I haven’t really started studying. And I am beginning to not even care.
    Pshhh.

  1749. I have found I panic at uni about work making me the most stressed person ever, however i have learnt so much but my final year is killing me! Because of my stress I have no really good friends at uni, pushed them all away. 100% coursework so its intense.

    It has also rather set me up for life though, currently earning money as a freelance on the side with 2 clients already. Infrequent work but when I go full time at the end of the year I will hopefully be earning up to £100,000 (based on the hourly rate I have achieved so far) a year as my client base grows!

    Bottom line is, its important to be connected to the real world as well as study. Uni provided you are not doing a mickey mouse degree can set you up for life with skills business need and are willing to pay excellent cash for. Just make sure you get your head down, study and most importantly stay calm…. unfortunately the calm part doesn’t come easy to me!

    Anyone else who has written on here will have also found working, sleeping and eating in the same tiny room VERY VERY DIFFICULT!

  1750. I feel so much better after reading some of these posts. Most of my friends haven’t gone to uni, and can’t believe the fact that I hate it and would rather have a job.
    I’m in my first year, and I absolutely hate my course. I have never felt so unmotivated in my life, I have gone to one lecture in the past week and would much rather stay in bed all day. The course is boring and the lecturers are completely uninspiring.
    I am on the verge of dropping out, but I worked ridiculously hard to get here and feel like it’s such a waste of my hard work. And to make it worse if I drop out I have no idea what to do job wise, being at uni has made me question everything.
    To top it all off, my parents have said they want me to at least finish the year because otherwise it will look “bad” when applying to jobs to say that I dropped out after 2 months. Brilliant. Loving life right now..

  1751. I agree that I hate my university. I must admit though that university life is one of the best times of my life. I love the people there. I´ve managed to get a good group of friends and a great student organisation. Although the way how the system works is really uninspiring. When I tell anyone of my field, first thought is always : Wow that seems so interesting. But believe me studying it is not interesting at all. There is only dull theory, small amount of practise. You are expected to spend most of y0ur time on school. I believe the reason of the lecture is not to inform you. It is just to have someone read a textbook to you. There are basically no good textbooks for you. There is more between the line than in the lines. These are not designed to teach you just to give you the information.

  1752. I feel like setting everyone and everything on fire.
    Uni has destroyed me and my life and my very sensitive brain. Uni is worse than high school and primary school put together and probably preschool now too, very gruelling. Not only that it isn’t worth an effin dime.
    Can’t believe i’ve got meself in so much debt for no real apparent reason .. dislike pushy-ass parents and fake ass oh-i’ll-help-you-out-friends and family people and people who you feel you can rely on but are total fcuking shitheads and feel it’s an effin laugh but you’re entire effin life depends on this cock-up off a degree to get you a decent paid job, mind you it’ll probably be an extra quid or two compared to the minors infact school leavers have better jobs than those with a million Phds.

  1753. I’m really starting to hate university… Last year (first year) I thought it was just the change and that things would get better, but this year it’s 10 times worse. In the summer my mood was great, but I’ve been feeling so depressed and hopeless lately that I can tell it’s the effect of being in a school that I hate.

    A lot of my profs don’t care about teaching. My university is really homogenous: everyone looks the same, acts the same, talks the same, wears the same clothes… Honest to God I’m not exaggerating on this. My university made a whole bunch of stupid financial decisions and is now cutting tons of classes, just enrolling was hell this year because of that, not just for me but for all students. All we represent is a certain number of dollars for them; maybe smaller universities care more about their students’ education but mine really doesn’t seem to.

    I’ve barely made any friends here. I tried joining clubs but they’re so disorganized that none of them ever got back to me. What a joke.
    My family thinks I’m really miserable and should take time out from school, but then what’ll happen? Will I ever go back? University has seriously sucked all my dreams out of me and crapped them back in my face.

    I’m sure university is right for some people, but for me, at this point in my life, it sucks. I hate it when they say “This is supposed to be the best time of your life!” SAYS WHO?!?! I think the best years of your life happen whenever they happen! Don’t TELL me to have a good time! Jebus!!!

    Yes, that was a random outburst, but sorry. I could go on and on and on, but much has been said already. I’m glad this site is here just to give people a place to innocently rant. I hope we will all turn out okay :)

  1754. Uni has changed me into a completely different person – before uni I was so upbeat and positive, now I’m so unhappy and unmotivated. I’m in my last year and all the lecturers keep reminding us of how IMPORTANT it is for us to work hard this year to secure a good degree but I feel totally drained of life. The past two years have been absolute living hell – exams after exams and then when I get a break from exams they throw coursework at us. It’s fucking RELENTLESS. I can’t even relax over Christmas because I have exams in January. FML. And then I see celebrities on TV who don’t have any qualifications at all and I’m thinking – WHY AM I DOING THIS?! Why do people who do nothing earn millions and go on holidays all year while I sit writing assignment after assignment and sitting tons of essays – for what – a load of debt and a degree that probably won’t even help me because everyone else has one and there are barely any jobs!!! I’ll probably end up working in a shit minimum wage job with a load of debt. Why bother with this?! I FUCKING HATE UNIVERSITY, and I hate the way it’s made out to be amazing and helpful for your future – if I could go back in time I would never go to uni but I can’t quit now because I’m in too much debt to throw it all away and I’ve put in too much effort to get this far.

  1755. I’m so glad I found this site, somewhere to vent my frustration and share experiences with thousands of similarly disaffected people.

    I applied to university really late (I’m in first term, first year by the way), probably more motivated by the fact that you had to go there after school (a mindset drilled into me all my life) than because I really wanted to go. I was instead going to have a gap year to consider my future, but off I went to university instead.

    I have OCD and social anxiety, but guess what, they put me in some shithole accommodation where you have to share a kitchen and bathroom with 12 other people. Thank God I got out of there in a week, and moved somewhere nicer. But did it get better? I really don’t get on with my current flatmates, by this I mean we share no mutual interests, and like the majority of students at university, they like to get pissed and waste their days.

    Alcohol seems to be the dominant subculture at university, which is really quite pathetic. I don’t drink, but have been assured over the years that I will still make friends at university by 1) meeting other people who don’t drink or 2) going out and socialising with others, but not drinking. 1) is out the window straight away, the drinking is ubiquitous here. And it is not just drinking in moderation, it is drinking to get drunk. I’ve met some fairly decent people, but it is extremely awkward socialising when you don’t drink, you really stand out like a sore thumb, when you watch them playing drinking games, and I refuse to go to nightclubs. Join societies, people say. Yeah I have, and they are hardly sociable and frequently disorganised. I have never felt so isolated and depressed in my life, something that is compounded by the homesickness.

    Finally, my degree. I really had a passion for philosophy before I came here, but it seems to have deadened. We have 5/6 contact hours a week (I’m paying 2K a term for that?) yet we have so much things to read and essays to write. Hardly something to motivate people who haven’t studied the subject before let alone worked independently. If anything, the first term should have the most contact hours. So most days I am sit in my box room extremely bored.

    So I am a bit of a predicament. I know that I hate university, but do I continue with it? Is the three years, and thousands of pounds really worth it? Thankfully the Christmas holidays coming up should allow me to reflect. I would consider the idea of dropping out more fully, but I know my family would be disappointed if I left university.

  1756. I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels this way. I HATE university right now!

    I’m under a Bachelor of Arts in Music because I thought I had a passion for music and that’s what I really wanted to do but I still wanted to be able to take other classes and not dedicate myself to an instrument. Well, that didn’t go as planned… I cannot understand music theory for the life of me and it is just so dry! The classes are very repetitious and incredibly boring. I haven’t made too many friends either so school just feels so lonely.

    On top of this, I feel like I’m going nowhere in life. I’ve seen comments that say that we need to go “or we’ll go nowhere in life.” Well, let’s think about that… some of the most successful people in the world don’t have a university education. College students seem to have it better since they have more hands on experience and can actually get JOBS when they’re done. University students don’t have it that easy when it comes to employment, and under my degree I’m pretty it will be impossible to get a career that pays well. Sure, we have to do what we enjoy, but I don’t see the point if it pays below the poverty line. Money isn’t everything, but it certainly is important. If we don’t care about money, then why the hell are we wasting our time in university?

  1757. To Dreadnought

    I feel i should point out that (and correct me if I’m wrong) there aren’t really any jobs that necessitate a philosphy degree. To me it seems like a subject people take purely for the interest in it. What philosophy industry is there? None that I am aware of. Like you say, since it’s costing you so much money, and you aren’t enjoying uni life at all, i would think it’s not worth staying; philosophy is something you can study just by getting out library books at home (except without the rediculous essays).

    I myself am considering leaving, except my course has more of an industry, more specifically, web design. This isn’t something I’m madly interested in either, but uni is not helping my view of it.
    Right now I’m trying to find out if I need the qualification, since the course is based on books anyway, I may as well be at home learning from the book instead of being fed watered down, half-arsed lecture material. Surely if I can produce a portfolio of websites that is of graduate standard, why do I need the qualification.

    The plan forming in my head right now is to go home and work part time in a bog standard job to actually get some cash, and teach myself what I need to know from books on my days off. Right now I feel convinced this would be more constructive than being here – it’d certainly be better value for money.

    In any case, I wish you (and everyone else on here) the best of luck.

  1758. When I break up for Christmas next week I’ll be officially HALF WAY through my degree….and it is the WORST I have ever felt about university, because I want to quit but obviously can’t- quitting would mean £15,000 of debt for nothing.

    Before I went, I wanted to be a teacher/lecturer, and go on from BA to MA etc. Now all I want to do is open a shop, work for myself, and never touch academia ever again.

    Lived there last year, hated it, I commute now. The 2 hour journey there and back is painful, but nowhere near as painful as living there was. At least I can come home to family and friends, instead of to vile flatmates and horrible accommodation.

    Like someone else up there ^^ said, who the hell should get to decide when the best days of your life are apart from YOU?? It’s mad. Some Pro-Uni person will probably attempt to contradict everything I’ve written here: GO AWAY. THIS PAGE IS FOR UNIVERSITY HATERS TO RANT AND RAGE TO OUR HEART’S CONTENT. WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN HEARING ‘JOIN A CLUB’ FOR THE 100000000th TIME.

    Best of luck to everyone, I’m sticking this bullshit out now, 3 terms down, 3 to go. Much love xxx

  1759. I Would like to share my story. But I’m probably using this site to channel my thoughts.

    I want to do this because my head feels like a pile of mush right now. Yes very mushy in deed. In other words lost, confused, depressed and sickened by this countries bullshit education system.

    University has destroyed my life, my soul and my happiness. They tell you its the best years of your life…. that you meet friends and potentially your soul mate. WRONG

    Before Uni I was a very confident person who enjoyed life, I went to the gym regularly and was in pretty good shape. I had a job, a car, a beautiful girl friend and my friends from school. Who I had known all my life. I was very content as a person. AND WHAT DID I GO AND DO. I went and threw all that away. Gave it all up. To go move to the other end of the country. Miles away from home. To go endure the most miserable part of my life.

    The course I’m studying is Beng Civil Engineering. So I’m not doing a Micky mouse course. Its a academic course. When people ask me what I’m doing I feel quite proud to respond with a subtle ‘don’t worry I’m not like the other million young people on the scrap heap with out a job, I’m studying civil engineering’ and they usually respond with a ‘ooooh look at you’. when in actual fact I’m dying inside.

    This is because the course is shit. I have no interest in civil engineering. I just got pushed into construction partly because I didn’t know what I wanted to do in life when I left school and because of my Dad working in the industry, encouraged me to do it.

    I’m trapped! I’ve dug a huge hole for myself. If I drop out, I will have paid 7 thousand in course fees for nothing (I’m in my second year). I will also become a college drop out loser. And thus be rejected from our wank society. So I have no choice but to continue.

    The coursework is a joke. The things they ask you to do are an insult. For example for my geotechnical module I was given 10 rocks in this box to take home and to identify what each rock was. It was like something you would get in school for homework. And this was worth 20% of the module mark. Some of the rocks were Limestone and sandstone. I’m not stupid I understand Civil Engineers have to understand about the types of ground their building on. But come on I’ve just paid 3 thousand f**king quid for this. I expect to be given something a little more advance than this.

    The teachers are unbelievable lethargic and disinterested. They never help. In order to get in touch with them you have to send them an email, which they never respond to. And when you do finally get hold of one they are rude and ignorant. You ask them for help, and to get out of it they use the excuse that you haven’t been listening in class(when I have). When in actual fact they don’t know them answer them selves. They couldn’t give two shits whether you passed or not.

    Anyway that’s the course its rubbish. I could ramble on about it for ever more but I doubt you will want to read this. I’ll be surprised if you’ve got this far. Lets not mention the actual Uni life its self. This wonderful social opportunity.

    Uni is full of pretentious wankers. I had more of a social life before I went. I’ve made some friends at uni who are nice people and I’m glad for that. But I doubt we will stay in touch once we’ve left. And I don’t no why everyone thinks everyone goes sex mental. I haven’t pulled a single girl since I’ve been year. You go to all these parties and every ones so defensive. Now don’t get me wrong I don’t think I’m amazingly beautiful, but I would rate myself a fair good looking chap and a gentleman and I’ve been with lots of women (before uni obv) and everyone I’ve met in my halls has also had no intercourse. The only people who have sex are people who have had boy friends or girlfriends prior to coming to uni.

    However I have attempted many a time to but on my charms and all I get is this look of disgust as though I’m sort of pervert. And believe me I have tried every type of approach on women in clubs and bars. Women don’t go to clubs to pull. They go to dance with their girl friends and to show off their outfits and boost their egos from the drooling looks of boys. When you look around and see people getting off its usually because they came within the same social circle. And the few girls that do are slags. I do tell a lie I have had the odd cheeky kiss with a girl whilst being here. But that besides the point I don’t want a one night stand I want to meet people and have a relationship. Where do get one of these then? By chance or fate? Or do I make my own fate, by going out and forcing myself to meet women. Well that’s another debate entirely.

    But anyway this is miserable, Its destroying my confidence. I used to enjoy talking to girls now I dread it. All I want is to go on a date to the cinema or a drink. I’ve never been so lonely in my life. I’m 21 for gods sake I should be in my prime. Not sat on here like a loser talking about my sad life. lol Ok so I’m not really this miserably and pathetic in real life. but its all true what I’ve said and hope someone reading this can relate to my situation and is maby going through the same thing can understand what i’m talking about…

    Feeling homesick and wishing they could turn back the time.

    Chris

  1760. Today, I attended a lecture for which I got bonus participation marks. I went solely for the marks. I kicked myself afterwards for putting myself through yet another two hours of listening to a history professor stroke his own ego for a measely 2.5 points. However, there is an upside.

    I am convinced that this was exactly what I needed to push me over the edge. I absolutely had it with my professors. It’s gotten to the point where I feel physically ill from having to listen to them lecture about theoretical, hypothetical, superficial drivel.

    I know that I have a passion for something in life. I am driven and motivated. I have ambition and a strong desire to succeed. Still, I find myself unable to stand up and walk out of these lectures and actually do something productive. I’m sick of sitting at my computer, regurgitating and reiterating.

    I thought to myself after this lecture that maybe this was a sign. It occurred to me that there surely must be other like me out there. No doubt there are students enrolled in programs they are interested in but find themselves hating because of the structure of the education system, the fact that so little of it is hands on, and that there are an inordinate number of perquisites for the classes they really want to take.

    After reading some of these posts, a fire in me has been ignited. I know that if we put our minds to it, a group of smart, driven, young people like ourselves have the capacity to do something. I don’t mean strike, drop out, sit on the computer and think about what to do. I mean do something, change they way we learn, have a say on what we learn and who we learn it from.

    I hate to sound like just another university student who has been beaten down to far. But it’s all true. Something needs to be done and we can do it. Hopefully, somebody hears this.

  1761. the only people that do well at uni are the fuckin twats that brown nose the tutors … I cant believe some of the shit I have seen in my BA and MA, …I did the MA thinkin I would escape un talented upper class fuck wits … but ohhh no there were more of them ..
    a rubber band in a frame could get someone better marks than a 6 ft masterpiece .. IF they talked the right shite …….
    FUCK UNI …
    those people are not real …… they eat salad at lunchtime and call a drink a glass of wine

  1762. Jacob, I’ve also thought that something should be done, but where do you even begin?

    These places are really just businesses, and trying to expose them from a student point of view will just get us labelled whiny and spoilt.

    I understand your frustration and I get the feeling so many students just merrily accept what comes and won’t wake up and see what’s happening. We’re keeping these people fed and clothed while they must be laughing in the staff rooms having delivered another useless lecture.

    Another problem is we don’t know everyones experience, only the people on this board. Although there are a huge number of posts here, we just can’t know the full picture.

  1763. BillytheBadger

    I FUCKING LOVE UNI!!!!! Lots of drugs, sex and rock n’ roll, all you guys just dont know how to woo women, lollol

    do your work and then do the pussy, enjoy guys;)

    BtB

  1764. Get a fucking life. You moaning cunts.
    If you don’t like University then go and save the starving or sort out the shit in Somalia and other fucked up places in the world, and stop bleating about how hard done by you all are, you illiterate, selfish fucking immature arseholes.

    I left and I did something useful with my life (saving people and changing lives)

    Get over yourselves you fucking wasters.

  1765. Dear Robbie

    Better universities = better teaching = better technology (for those taking those subjects at least – fair enough, I’m not personally) = sorting the world out. Please watch this video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ghhgUmGBjX8#!
    The guy waffles on a bit, but the idea is that this sort of stuff is developed by universities. If everyone were educated properly, you’d have alot more potential for helping out the rest of the world.

  1766. Alright folks. Somebody at work told me about this the other day so I thought I should check it out. Couldn’t believe how many replies there have been to such an old blog posting! Looks like quite the discussion you have going on here.

    Well, I can honestly say I found the university experience lacking. First year was pretty good but second year onwards was just boring, tedious and I really felt like the lectures were just there to kill time and make us feel like we were getting our money’s worth. All that happened was we were given a rough overview in lectures, told to go off and do some additional research and prepare for tutorial and exam questions which bore little or no relation to the actual course content. We were all therefore left asking what the point in the lectures was. I won’t say where I was but it was one of the UK’s Top 10 universities which happened to be in Scotland and I did Engineering.

    The whole business of it being “the time of your life” is either subjective i.e. thus differing from one person to another or total nonsense depending on how you look at it. The social side of things was good in the very limited free time and funds any of us had – you can’t go out drinking and picking up girls every single night (like everybody says you can and how you’re a loser for not doing so) if you’re tight on money and do a difficult, time consuming course.

    I eventually got fed up of my empty existence where all we did was listen to clapped out lifelong academics talking crap all day long, mixed in with the occasional uninspiring lab session and tutorial. No time for endless drinking or the societies which everyone bleated on about. In actual fact, these societies never had any final year students on their executive committees simply because they didn’t have the time themselves, and I always remember getting e-mails which said “Hi folks, we need a new such-and-such because I’m going into 4th year and won’t be able to” etc.. Didn’t even have the time to attend one 1hr evening session a week as a regular member, I think that says it all about the unnecessary workloads.

    So, I came battered and bruised to the end of my studies and I graduated in 2006. I got a decent job which I still have as I somehow escaped the recession and its fallout. When I discovered that my day job was actually easier and more pleasant all round than my university career ever was and that I learned more in the first three months than I did in my whole first year of study, it rammed the point home that university really wasn’t all it was cracked up to be. I was getting paid good money to work a fraction of the hours I did as a student (37.5hrs in the office instead of 80hrs+ as a student – no joke), overtime was discouraged and the management treated us with respect and as intelligent humans instead of unworthy sheep like the academics did.

    What I will say is this: university is generally unpleasant and for many people it is a negative or otherwise undesirable experience. Some people are just very, very good at keeping it hidden or bottled up (because disliking it for any reason is blasphemy and “uncool”) and I was surprised to find two years after I graduated that a close friend of mine felt the same all along! Even though he was always socialising, getting through his work, always had money etc., he still disliked it because it felt fake and pointless to him.

    Stick with it, as hard as it is. What comes afterwards is a whole lot better in a number of ways: having structure and routine in your life is very important; you will actually be paid for the work you do; you will feel like you are contributing something and doing something productive, not just grinding through the same generic tutorial sheet the lecturer has used for the past five years etc.

    There are a number of other points I could make but it seems many of them have been covered by other people.

    I love my job and I now have a nice flat in a nice area, a good salary and am about to buy my first brand new car. I might even be leaving that flat soon as my girlfriend and I plan to move in together, possibly buy somewhere and mortage it and may even decide to get married within the next year or two. None of this would have happened to me if I hadn’t forced myself through university as for example I didn’t actually meet my girlfriend while studying.

    Quitting and dropping out is a kneejerk reaction which won’t solve anything. The job market is extremely tough these days so you might be better off staying at university until things smooth over – if you drop out of a degree or are otherwise underqualified then nobody will take you on to do any kind of job. I cannot emphasise this enough.

    Chin up, it’s over sooner than you think and you have the open road of life ahead of you where you can do what you want, without some crusty academic quack with a stupid beard and no life experience ordering you about through overly eloquent and condescending e-mails. University is indeed artificial, pointless nonsense but don’t let it get to you. It’s only a very small section of your life and what someone said earlier is true: nobody cares about your degree after about 4-5 years of a career and it all comes down to personal traits and work experience/good references after that. In actual fact, I’m not even sure it’s as long as 4-5 years depending on career path and prior work experience.

    I feel sorry for those of you still trapped in the system, but things will get better for you once you come out the other end. Stay strong and good luck.

  1767. @Craig

    Maybe you can cope with the negative experience better than some people, but you seem to see going to university as a necessity for a job. That is not always the case, and a good number of wealthy and successful people didn’t go to university, because they didn’t need an institution to accredit their talents. You admit that most of university is independent learning-that just goes to show that most of a degree is using one’s own talents anyway. I know for some professional jobs one needs a degree. But I think it is legitimate for those of us doing non-vocational degrees to question their worth. I think it comes down to the question: is a degree needed to be successful in life? The less true this claim is, the more pointless university becomes.

  1768. 1styearstudent

    glad to see im not alone
    thanks i feel so much better now

  1769. @Craig

    You speak the truth. I’m in my first year, at first I disliked it but now i’m used to it. I don’t find University “OMG I LOVE IT!” I find it more like “Another day of univeristy, do my work, come home, say hello to the family, relax” Yes I stay at home people. I don’t regret it. I am happy staying at home, I won’t conform to people expectations because its somehow embedded itself into our social norms.

  1770. I’m in my final year and really tired of my university life too.

    Sometimes it can seem that everything (the endless bureaucracy you have to navigate to get things done) and everyone (unhelpful professors, staff, etc.) are conspiring to ruin everything for you, but don’t use that as an excuse to give up.

    If you don’t have a good idea about what you want to do after you graduate yet, think about cutting your losses and changing your major to something you’d actually enjoy learning about.

    It’s much harder to hold fast and tell yourself to just see the next few years as a means to an end and nothing more, which it often is, in the case of non-professional degrees. But if that’s what you want to do, it really helps to step out of your comfort zone and make some friends. And a little pot (yes, in moderation, folks) for getting through those boring lectures never hurt, either. Wink, wink.

    I’m an aspiring high school teacher, and the greatest lesson I’ll be taking away from my experience is how NOT to inspire a self-motivated passion for learning. I suppose a negative example is better than nothing.

    p.s. Yeah, I know I just knocked university and promoted marijuana use, so just for the record, I’m not an education major (I wish I was, but it’s economics first for me, then a diploma in teaching later).

  1771. WHY I HATE COURSE/ INSTITUTION

    I have read more a less ALL of the comments from March 2004 onwards…no one would ever admit they hate where they are or the course etc…but here ‘s my vent…

    1. Not teaching anything
    2. Too far, wasting money I do not have on petrol, train would take too long whole journey would be 2 ½ hrs and more and that’s just one way!
    3. Course content does not make sense as they are not relating to it!
    4. Giving assignment after assignment but not giving no knowledge to complete
    5. Timetable is not good 4 hour breaks here and there town is DULL so what to do there is only so much times you can go to the LIBRARY!
    6. Lecturers disorganised or whatever other CRAP they want to call themselves!!
    7. Making up course content as the go along
    8. Mundane, boring lessons
    9. Rude, arrogant, racist lecturers saying I quote “I don’t know what you are saying” when I’m asking him a question about the pointless assignment big and loud for the whole class to hear do I want to knock him out HELL YEAH!
    10. Class is a joke, people looking at me alien, not talking etc
    11. Only 2 of my culture people in the class that don’t even turn up so that leaves me piggy in the FUCKING MIDDLE!
    12. Group work people don’t turn up group I “wanted to work with”( as in I obviously don’t want to work with them but I don’t care who I work with I just want to get my pass mark) but they looking at me all alien! Mother fuckers!!!! So end in the group where only I turn up!
    13. Don’ t think this so called “DEGREE” is going to help me in the REAL world
    14. I have always liked doing assignments but if I wanted to TEACH myself I would have done OPEN UNIVERSITY not come physically to a building to be TAUGHT!!!!!
    15. Oh and I DEFO of no friends here these are defo not my kind of people little rugrats chatting shit being the class clown thinking they are still at school!
    16. Some of you must have 1 pompous think they know it all student I really HATE those characters you know the ones that always have the loudest mouth, too much too say and want to take over well NO ONE is taking OVER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!
    17. You must also have one person that doesn’t no when to stop talking as in instead of them waiting till after the class finishes they take 30minutes talking to the lecturer like its a one on one session!
    18. Conclusion: Just started in September so… QUIT, DEFER etc!!!Just don’t want to pay anything to the Student Finance CRAP back!!!!

  1772. I find it really comforting to know other people have and are in the same situation as me.

    My first year was AWFUL. I had flatmates that were seriously bullying me. I’ve never been introverted or rude. I certainly didn’t cause the bullying, they are just a bad bunch of people who egged eachother on and because I didn’t enjoy ‘banter’, I was targeted. If you can call scrubbing the toilet with my toothbrush and pouring beer all over my stuff ‘banter’, then no, I don’t want to hang out with you. I wanted to leave but I wouldn’t have a home to go back to and most of all I felt the pressure from my mum that University was the only way to go in life.

    So I stayed and I failed. Luckily, my course let me re-start and I had better luck the second time round.

    I’m now in my third year with an amazing boyfriend who I share a flat with and a lovely circle of friends. As far as University goes though, I still hate it. I haven’t learnt any skills (apart from ones I have taught myself) and each year has just been a repeat of the last with no progression. I’m doing TEFL and going travelling after this because I need to find the ambition and drive again that Uni sucked out of me. I get good grades but I have absolutely no passion and definately no motivation to write my dissertation.

    No doubt Uni will take all the credit if I’m successful in my field (I’ve seen articles written about previous successful students where my course leader has literally said they’ve done well only because of the course.)

    I’ve gained a lot from moving to a new town and developing as a person but Uni didn’t do that for me – I did.

    Besides, for a lot of career paths, Uni just isn’t necessary anymore.

  1773. Right people comenting on this saying “I LOVE IT” and “Get over it and make freinds” Fuck off. your obviously not in the same boat as us so fuck off and stop thinking your helping people posting your experiences. Everyone’s different and your quite clearly part of the large percentage who like Uni or have been mind fucked into liking UNI. I have friends, get drunk, take drug and get laid every other week. So cant complain right. WRONG. I HATE UNI !!!!. Its not about the social life its about your FUTURE and “getting a good job” well fuck that. we spend all the best years of our life studying/partying/studying/partying. Its so fucking boring now and repetitive. Then we get a shite job and do that the rest of our lives like everyone else. All we have to look forward to is getting a house, paying a mortgage. Getting a wife, having children BILLS BILLS FUCKING BILLS. Then on top of that we’ll all be sat on the couch at the end of the day every day untill we die. Oh and lets not forget getting drunk which we do all the FUCKING TIME! Oh and dont get me wrong im a happy nice guy. its just a shame i can predict how my life is going to unfold thanks to university.

  1774. @Big Deebs

    You need to let your guard down, because it’s obviously railroading you into thinking that there’s only one life that awaits you after university.

    You need to realise that you’re free to pursue whatever it is that makes you happy. Getting a wife and having to take on the financial burden of having kids is not the only way to live your life, even though that’s what most of the products of our mass-produced-everything-zombie society end up doing.

    Don’t let the fact that you hate university cloud your judgement. Make some big and hard decisions once you’re out of uni (whether you graduate or drop out before it’s over) and I’m sure it’ll all be a distant memory a few years from now. Money is only everything if you allow yourself to believe it is.

  1775. @Big Deebs again,

    Just to put my earlier advice in perspective, a friend of mine (pretty bright guy; engineering major) thought he’d take a semester off to travel the world. He ended up getting a job stacking cans and sharing a dingy apartment with another person.

    That was about two years ago, and he still hasn’t been back to uni since. He’s having the time of his life (pretty much all the free time you could want) making shitty music and smoking dope.

    No life decision is right or wrong per se. Things only get messy when our choices don’t lead us toward our ambitions (e.g., letting your grades slide, while hoping to land a job with a consulting firm).

    All the best, friend. Don’t let the fuckers win.

  1776. Uni ruined everything

    I’m 23 and started uni back in September this year and right now I am more depressed than I have ever been.
    I’m doing a ba in fine art and it is the most pointless thing ever. It’s basically people talking absolute bollocks and trying to find hidden meanings that don’t even exist in ridiculous pieces of “art”.
    I stopped going a few weeks back and will be dropping out within the next week or two but here come the real problems.
    I have literally not a single penny to my name and nothing to fall back on. My mother has tried her best to help out financially here and there when she can but she doesn’t make much and has her own problems which are even worse than mine.
    I also have a regular loan on top of my student loan which I took out before I decided to go to uni which is costing me £138 per month. I had to cancel the direct debit about 2 months ago and now I’m getting missed calls from the bank every day.
    Last week I told my student accommodation provider that I would like to cancel the contract and they said that if nobody claims my flat then I would still be liable for the full years rent which I have no idea how I’m gonna pay!
    Wait, there’s more. When I move back home I will need to find a job immediately but when I do it’s gonna be pretty damn tricky to commute since I sold my car, and in the small town that I live in you really need a car. How the hell am I supposed to afford a car!
    On the upside I have made some friends for life and had some great times here but other than that, this decision has totally fucked up my life and will take years to fix.
    There’s a few other things but I won’t bore you with those haha.
    Sorry to go on so much and I’m really looking forward to some positive comments to help me get through this

  1777. I hate my university life I have no real friends and here is people always wear masks I feel really bad when i have to go university this is my last year I have been so sad so long time many times i want to give up but when i think how my father work hard for sending me to university i have a power and yes i will overcome this worst moment in my life and i believe tomorrow will be better

  1778. University sucks,sucks,sucks! I absolutely hate it!

  1779. just out of curiousity Craig F, are you working in engineering, or did you find a job completely left-field of what you studied?????

  1780. Jacob — an open-source university system, with courses and knowledge, that is concise and to the point…….

  1781. Free Your Mind and Think

    College and degrees are another form of social manipulation to keep the masses subservient and enslaved to their masters. It promotes a lifestyle that suits capitalism and materialism. You can have 3 PhD’s and at the end of the day have no common sense and life smarts. Some of the most profound people that I have met happen to have no degrees. Think and educate yourself as only we can free our minds!

  1782. yo charles, where exactly does your friend chill and stack cans? wanna live that live, uni blows.

  1783. I hate university, I’m at a veterinary college which is 90% female.

    Of the 90% women, 100% of them are nasty people. If one more woman starts a conversation by telling me who she finds irritating, when I know that the minute I walk away she will turn around and start telling somebody else how irritating I am, I will break her nose.

    I am sick of blonde girls, who want to work with pretty pretty ponies, wearing ugg boots and sweat pants and £600 handbags. I don’t fit in, I don’t have any friends, I live in central London but never go out, I have no boyfriend because the 20 odd men in my year group are all either gay or taken, and I don’t like animals anywhere near enough to put up with these people.

    Wish I’d gone to medical school instead; at least I would have been unhappy but looking forward to a better wage.

  1784. 5 months to go.. 5 years of hating every minute, shall not think about what I could have and where I could be now if I hadn’t gone! Get the thing done and pretend it never happened. Thats the plan.

  1785. I only have 5 months to go,too, but I can’t imagine getting through them.

    This summer, when I worked, I was SO happy. I had friends, money, a purpose, I enjoyed my job, I had things to look forward to. But now I am the complete opposite. There is no purpose in being here. I have become much less of a person: I am unmotivated, miserable, boring, angry, stressed, shy, afraid.

    And I can’t see what will be on the other side. If I feel the way I do now when I finish, I will be unable to get a job because I will have no self confidence or motivation.

    Sometimes I can’t see a way out of this. Only 5 months :(

  1786. Firstly, I can’t help but empathise with most of the people here: university seems freakin’ difficult to near impossible at times (not to mention that any problems outside of the academic context can make it seem ten times worse). I understand this all too well, believe you me.

    A few days ago I found myself questioning just what I was doing at university as I got frustrated with SPSS (statistical package for the social sciences) and my apparent inability to grasp even the most basic concepts of it; I told myself that I’d reached the peak of my potential with high school, and that I’d never make it through the next few years. I found myself faced with just about every doubt I could have about my academic ability: that I was too stupid; that I would never get the degree in psychology that I’d always dreamed of, etc – all in all, university was just too damn hard (and evil!) for me.

    However, when one of my lecturers told me that she too used to go home ‘very stressed’ with SPSS when she was a student and that another lecturer would literally go home in tears because she found it incredibly difficult, I gained the insight that not everyone is going to find it a breeze and that, in fact, if you do then you aren’t the norm at all. Most people I have spoken to are finding it difficult and stressful (and are also taking it as a bruise to their egos a little) – it’s an entirely new and more challenging level of learning, so of course it’s going to be tough for people. It’s not like most of us are exposed to what we are learning in uni in the outside world a lot of the time (generally), so it isn’t being reinforced to us ‘naturally’ and therefore, if we want to survive in the harsh world of university, we have to step up and take responsibility for reinforcing things internally.

    Every person I spoke to before going to university who had gotten their degrees told me that it was hard work, and that if you aren’t prepared to put in the effort then you are unlikely to succeed. It wasn’t until recently that I found out exactly what they had meant; that I was going to be spending hours upon hours in the university library pouring over dry, tedious textbooks and journals in order to get through all my reports and exams (and ultimately the course itself). I don’t enjoy studying in the slightest – there are plenty of other things I’d rather be doing (like sleeping), but I know it’s just part of the package that I signed up for. Okay, so I don’t enjoy having to work as hard as I do, but I know it will benefit me in the long-term, just as much as it benefitted everybody who was able to proudly obtain their degrees after years of working away.

    To state the obvious, university is tough and it only gets more tough and as such it’s not for everyone. I can empathise with the frustration with university and the irrelevance it can seem to have to the real world at times. I can understand some peoples’ wants to drop out of university, but I don’t see that as them being failures in the slightest if they do: university isn’t for all of us, so if we need to drop out then that’s fair enough – some people will thrive better by learning through the experience of life as opposed to being immersed in studying and research, and that’s great if it works for them. On the other hand some people may have made the wrong course choice for them – we don’t know 100% beforehand that we will enjoy our courses, and that’s entirely understandable (some of the people on my course now dropped out last year from entirely different courses which they hated to come into to psychology now, and they find their university experiences far more enjoyable than they did previously). Furthermore, some people just aren’t ready for the committment of university: whilst some can come into it with an in-built sense of committment in their late teens/early twenties, others may not – they may need the time to experience and appreciate the real world a bit more before taking the leap into HE. Too many are pushed into believing that they must go to university soon after high school in order to succeed, or are just told it’s the done thing, and whilst that approach has produced countless successful graduates in the long run it just doesn’t work for everyone. Many people come back to education later on in life after travelling/working/raising families with a more focused and driven mindset than they had when they were younger because they had the chance to grow and find out who they are and what it is they want from life.

    Whatever your experiences are, my point is this: if you are struggling then you are not alone – almost everyone struggles a lot of the time and it’s perfectly normal. Equally, you’ve got to struggle in order to grow intellectually – if we didn’t then we’d pay for our degrees and get them handed to us without any effort. If you feel you are struggling too much then make an appointment with one of your lecturers or talk to student support and see if there is any way you can get assitance with working on whatever it is you are struggling with – that’s what they are there for. Whilst university is hard at least the staff acknowledge it by putting support in place should we require it, even though the lecturers themselves are often forced to take an impersonal approach with us due to the sheer mass of work they take on (which I think can make people feel as though the lecturers don’t give a damn about them when in fact most of them really do) like lectures, marking, committees and their own research required for their jobs. Hopefully something can be done to alleviate some of the problems and difficulties you are having so that you can get through university without too many blips if a degree is really what you want. If, after careful consideration, a degree is not what you want, then don’t feel too bad about that, but feel glad that you know more about what you want and that you’ve saved yourself years of misery struggling to get through university with little benefit to yourself.

    Finally (yes, there is an end), I hope that whoever you are and whatever you are studying you will one day be able to turn round and be proud of what you have accomplished, whether or not your accomplishments come from university or elsewhere. Just remember that a rant about uni is a great way to vent, but also that not much will get solved without hard work and compromise.

    Good luck, everone :)

  1787. Jim Carrey, homeless for a few years as a teenager quitted school when he was 16 years old. At 20 years old he said in a little crappy interview for local press that it would be really cool if one day he couldn’t walk down the street without being recognized. He’s now got millions of dollars and millions of people think he’s brilliant.

    Well that’s just an exemple I’m giving, since everybody knows who he is. An example of how to beat the f*** out of social conventions and snob thinkings.
    I remember hearing as a teenager : woow, you’re so smart how can you not wanna study in the science field ? Then, teachers to my mom : Does’t she wanna be a medical doctor, or work in research ?”

    The point is, if you see yourself as the person who studied a lot and finally got her dream job, then GO for it.

    If you’re bored to death studying and feel like anyway that really well paid job at the end isn’t gonna make you happy. Then stop studying and go find yourself in a big city. Analyse and enter fully in society in all possible ways. As a full time activity. And very important : DON’t WORRY, it doesnt mean your are DUMB ! And that is really important you believe that because a lot of people are gonna try to make you feel like you’re the most inferior person they’ve ever met.

  1788. stressssssMYBRAIN

    WOW who’d have thought typing ‘fuck uni’ into google could make me feel so much better! Totally know where you’re all coming from. I’m skint. Hungry. Tired. Bored. Frustrated. Overwhelmed. Disappointed. Trapped. Pressured. Smothered. Stuck. Lonely. And I could go on…….
    So basically I thought of Uni as a great chance to meet loads of new and exciting people. Wrong. I’ve only made 1 true friend at my time here, made a few others from my course but it’s all pretty dull. The nightlife sucks and doesn’t interest me. I’ve been getting pretty good grades by sacrificing my social life. In fact, just life in general.
    Now, on a a mission to try and enjoy life, discover myself and make the most of my time here, I have regained my life! I had my first gay experience with a girl, had my first threesome, i’ve had many a party and many many good nights. So the second I start living life and enjoying myself it all goes wrong. Third year really doesn’t allow that kind of thing. So now i have a million things to do and all i want to do is drop out. All these pointless essays about nothing are really getting on top of me.
    HOW DO PEOPLE HANDLE THIS SHIT?!?!
    Stress doesn’t even cover it. My degree is most likely worthless as everyone is into ‘media’ nowadays. Why am I driving myself crazy over a degree that probably means nothing but debt?????????
    UNI SUCKS AND I CAN’T DO IT ANYMORE.
    Yet i could nevereverever tell the parents which makes it even harder.
    Big love to all you students out there struggling too. Life sucks right now, but it can’t last for ever. Pass or fail, first or third, you are still you and NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS.

  1789. @stressssssMYBRAIN

    hey @stressssssMYBRAIN,
    i feel completely the same,
    i can relate so much to your situation,
    brilliant comment:
    “Pass or fail, first or third, you are still you and NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS.”
    Thanks for your post..

    Lea

  1790. Let me illustrate why I fucking hate the university and its system.

    It’s load of crap. It’s all about coming to classes, jotting down whatever bullshit the teacher says, doing everything you can to get good grades which includes mugging up.

    In my C++ lab this fucking semester…I was the only fucking one who was able to successfully write a project which was given to us. The fucking idiot professor could not really understand it and was unable to understand something a simple as my switch-case usage.

    He always said, “You are a good programmer” blah blah blah but in my internals, I got 22 out of 30. WTF? And total idiots in our class have got >25 !

    SERIOUSLY WTF?!

    In the university life, you are punished for learning. This is the truth. All you are “supposed” to do is follow the crowd. If you want to do innovate then university will fuck you.

    University is just a time filler. Because people are worthless and hence, to feel “worthy”, they engage in “educational” practices. Fuck all of you.

  1791. Its very very degrading…

    For the fact that i sit and feel the rest of the people there aare completley retarded, minus a few.

    The girls, well, lets just say that if they lifted their leg a while bucket of dick would fall out of them.

    If i wanted a slag, id buy a prostitute.

    The lecturers do not seem to care (Forgetting this is many peoples futures)

    The work is a mission, most of it is ball shit, subjects so far from peoples lives its insane and bloody hard to keep motivated to carry on listening or writing this shit,not only that bu its all worded to confuse the shit out of you…

    I have to pay to print shit (What the fuck did i pay £3000 a year for?

    Its depressing, the thought of failing is depressing.

    I too am musician and find it hard to inspire my self wo make music still, i almost want to give it up to make the ball shit eaiser as i need the time for music but if i choose to do what i love i may fail as i dont put enough time into work.

    But on the plus side, i have my music, love cars (Even though mines fucked and i cant fix it as i have no money because im doing this course)

    Another plus, im not alone, you lot seem to feel the same.

    This didnt give me hope in my course but its helped me in ways im not sure of yet, just seeing its not me whos weak, its just genuin ball shit.

    All those who think they cant carry on, fuck it, after those years, year, months whatever you can leave knowing your strong in will and in paper.

    :)

    Live well my fellow stress heads.

  1792. University hater

    I hate university especially when they make you take courses that aren’t even part of your degree.

    FUCK YOU UNIVERSITY. YOU CAN’T TELL ME WHAT TO TAKE, OKAY YOU CAN BUT MAKE YOUR COURSES A BIT SENSIBLE. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO THROW SOME RANDOM ASS HORSE SHIT DUNG COURSE AND EXPECT ME TO REGURGITATE THAT SHIT. Sorry for the caps. May the people who did the curriculum planning for that degree burn in hell.

  1793. The people in my school make me feel like i have a problem.
    When they see me studying, they are like, “Oh, so you like studying.” and make me sound like some kind of freak who loves to study.
    And when I don’t, I look like a slacker and a useless bum. (and the people who show this to me are slackers themselves.)

    I try fitting in with social groups, and in the end, my so called “Friends” only used me to do their unfinished work for them, with a few as exception. Friend after friend treat me the same. They refused to ask for an extension and work on it themselves.

    Well, as for my lecturers and school staff, they’re kind and decent people, and overall I like most of them. Except that the problem is that I have chosen a course that I have zero interest in (it’s too late to switch to something else, and it’s a lucrative and well-received degree in the hiring field.), and the culture and teaching methods here don’t suit me.

    Oh, man. All I want is to finish my bachelors as soon as possble!

    Currently, I am Gritting my teeth and tolerating. One more year and I am outta here!!!

  1794. To @al who has commented up there,
    What you said regarding the acrimonic people there are so true!

    Studying itself may be unenjoyable, but it is bearable. It is the nasty (and demanding, for my case) people that makes university life so unbearable!

  1795. Grow up. Opportunities in life are what you make of them. I’d wager 90% of the people on here go to Uni, go home and do fuck all in between. If you go to a University that is right for you by making an informed decision in the first place, study a subject you’re invested in emotionally, and appreciate that you will have to work to succeed at it, and don’t expect university – or anyone or anything else for that matter – to give your life the purpose only you can decide for it, then it can be an incredible experience.

    My advice to most of you? Get the hell off the internet complaining about the experience and get into one of the many societies you’ll never have the chance to join again, go and get silly drunk with friends you’ll never have the privilege to be so close to again, and go learn. Life at this age is about learning, experiencing new things and having fun. All of that is challenging, because to grow demands personal sacrifice. But to claim University sucks because you have no friends, professors who had the vision and strength to attain an incredible goal they set themselves are stupid, misses the point. I suspect the answer to your problems lies a little closer to home.

  1796. Im a third year student at a good uni, i made loads of friends and joined the societies. My problem lies not with the social aspect of uni, i dont feel isolated…. that is until I have to encounter fellow undergradate historians. The protentiousness of these people is ridiculous and their lack of knowledge regarding the practical skills in real, modern life never fails to austound me. I am constantly sniggered at for my accent and because I did not get in to university through the traditional A-level route, but instead by an assess course provided by my local college.

    I am constantly singled out by my professors for refusing to conform to their politics in my essays. Even though they admit my essays are well writen, well supported, referenced correctly and all the rest of it, the leanings are not what the univiversity desire, so for that i am constantly dropped a grade (occasionally more). This can depend on the professor, which is even more frustrating. To add to this, when i was experience the very lowest point in my family life, my Professor said to me, that may be i should write my dissertation on kin ship, then i might be able to understand why my family are so out of control. My family are not ot of control, we are just a large family, we had three sudden deaths within the family within months of each other and the my mother fell ill, and the comment he made only added to make me feel worthless and alone.

    I pay £3,500 a year, and get four hours contact time a week. Professors are notoriously difficlt to pin down and constantly cancel appointments and seminars. Printing costs are through the roof! Our university library has been having a re-fit now for the past 3-4 years, there are wires hanging from the ceiling, holes in the floor and work men constantly banging and drilling day and night. Trying to find the book you need is a nightmare, if you do find it, it is a miracle. If you dont, feel free to ask the librarians, who will helpfully tell you one of two things: 1. There is only one copy of that book between the 200+ students on your course. Someone has probably hidden it. 2. All the books from that section are currently in boxes somewhere, we dont know where, and we dont have the time to look for it, so there is no chance you are going to be able to have within at least the next term!!

    I have 6 more months until I complete my degree, and i just feel so drained, un-motivate and degraded by the experience so far, i just dont know if I can stick it out with out causing my self some serious emotional stress!

    to mike, who has written the above beginning “Grow up.” I did make an informed decision as regards to my university choice, i do go out and get drunk with my friends and i do take part in the societies. i dont expect uni/my professors to give me a purpose but i do expect to get my moneys worth, to be treated like a human being regardless of my background/my accent/my political ideas and to get the support I need when i need it, at somepoint every one needs that, especially academically.

  1797. college life sucks. everybody thinks that college is an ongoing party and that everyone is always drunk, smoking weed,and having sex. well of course people are always doin those things bt then come the repercussions. i cant even plagiarize without bein kickd out of the university. whoever said that college was the best times of your life lied

  1798. Third year,

    “grow up” was not meant as a glib comment. Growing up is fucking tough. I’m 2 years out of uni now, have a great job, but the next crisis of life moves in after the uni ones die down. You’ll have reasons to feel crap all your life. Really unjust things happen. People we love die. Absolute knobhead professors exist. All we can do is make the best of the circumstances given to us.

    Youre not far off now, and, once you get that degree, you’ve got the biggest ribbon bound middle finger you can give those professors. My only advice is to try and live your life for you, and do what is important for you, to the best of your ability. Try and make those people who are sadly not with us anymore as happy for you as they can be.

    It just sounds like you’re going through a shit time. You’ll come through it, you’ll be better and stronger. Listen to your heart, and you’ll be okay.

    But remember, you choose how you are defined. Let the circumstances define you or beat them regardless – that’s the real choice we face when it comes to growing or not.

    With best wishes and encouragement,

    Mike

  1799. I hate uni. I L O V E to study, thougs. I hate my russian university because of corruption (you can bye every damn subject). I hate it because teachers do not seem to care to teach us things (they are poorly paid and do not depend on our opinion on them). I hate my university because of the system of giving marks. Its not test, when personal relationship is eliminated, but an exam when you speak to your teacher. I’m not the most pleasant person and I also hate to suck dicks so sometimes they do not give me marks I deserve. But I’m smart and things are not so bad.
    All in all,
    I HATE UNI
    I HATE THAT DAMN SYSTEM
    I HATE RUSSIA

    I’ve got an exam tomorrow, maybe thats why

  1800. Does He Look Like A Bitch?

    IM FREEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! It only took me one semester to realize how much university sucked. Now I’m dropping out, and I’ve never been happier in my entire life!! I can’t wait to get back to my real life. SUCK A FAT ONE UNI! WOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

  1801. Does He Look Like A Bitch?

    also, I was thinking…
    wouldn’t it be amazing if all the people who posted in this blog were placed together in one giant room? It would be the fucking best time ever! Everyone would like each other and get along!! I wish I could meet all of you like-minded, beautiful people!!! <3

  1802. I HATE UNI!!! HELP ME!!!

    I’m here to vent my anger (again), disappointment (again) and bafflement (huh?).
    That’s right, bafflement. I don’t get it why slackers can pass their assignments and exams with a breeze while I need to study so hard for meagre results!??

    In fact, by studying too hard, I am now losing motivation to study and getting disappointed and depressed. I feel like a failure, a complete failure. Those whom I know that study hard also get meagre results or scraped a mere pass. And slackers get a distinction? What is this supposed to mean??? Yet, when I do the same as those slackers, I get a cold, hard FAIL?

    In that case, why study so hard!? There’s no point!

    So called “Studying smart” and other study hacks doesn’t seems to work for me either. Yet I need this certificate so badly, even though I hate what I study (as I mentioned before).

    Secondly, the staff of the library is driving me crazy too. They delibrately do a bad job at logging out the books that I borrow, and whenever I walked into/out of the library door, the door alarm would happily go ‘beep beep beep’ and make me look like a (dumb) thief.

    Honestly, who would steal huge reference books!? They weigh a ton and far too conspicious to hide in your satchel too.

    One of the library staff repeatedly tries to embarrass me in front of a crowd by making a huge deal over using wrong font in my email and meaningless stuff like that. At least if she wants to give me a warning, she could’ve done it privately, not in front of the whole school?

    She keeps asking me to do stupid stuff like look after her things while she goes off, when they are none of my business and I am not paid to do this, in exchange for some lousy snack that is “claimed to be expensive”.

    And I think she sometimes get too close for comfort, I don’t know whether she knowingly means it or whether it is delibrately inappropriate, but it feels absolutely disgusting so I resorted to keep giving her a dirty look whenever she does that , I hope she gets the cue.

    Everytime I see the librarian, I feel like giving a slap at her face. Yet, I will have to force myself to pretend to smile and like her, or I don’t know what awful dirty tricks she might do next. I hate her, and many more people here.

    Sorry for all the rambling here guys, but I am kind of depressed and this site is the only place to keep me sane at the moment. I don’t intend to interact with or to bring about any reaction from any of you over here, so you can proceed with your venting with ease.

    And, oh, Happy Ventings! ;)

  1803. I HATE UNI!!! HELP ME!!!

    Ok, this time I need a response for you guys for this post:
    Is it normal for me to lose focus every 5 minutes, even when I have tried all I can to sit down and study/ finish my assignments? How about thinking of changing school, every few seconds?

    When I was in High school, I am working in a structured environment, and even though nobody likes me there, my grades are not great, but I seems to function just fine when coming to completing assignments and studying for exams.

    Some time between start of high school and end of college, I begin to get depressed, and I begin to lose my concentration and memory abilities.
    I think I might be having a serious problem but I don’t know what it is.

    Yet it seems that I have not been born like that. According to my parents, I used to have good memory and scored decently high marks at elementary school, which means that I USED to be able to force myself to do things that I dislike/hate. How am I to figure out how to get back that ability?

    Ah, feel so much better after venting myself! Thanks so much in advance!

  1804. I HATE UNI!!! HELP ME!!!

    @Mike: Fair enough, but can you explain what you meant by the following statement?

    “I suspect the answer to your problems lies a little closer to home.”

    Perhaps I am not intelligent enough to figure the meaning out, but I hope you can give me a clarification?

  1805. Fuck fuckfuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I have 5 kfinal exam next wee. I m so fucking stressed!!!!!!!! I don’t get those fucking math fucking physic fucking anything…………….
    Please help me !!!!!!!!! someone plz…….

  1806. Five years of comments! I hope the guy who wrote this page did alright and got the job he was after. Or indeed the lack of one, and a HUGE pile of weed ;D
    I waited until 27 to start Uni, did an HND first (far more practically useful), and am now halfway through the last set of lectures I will EVER sit through for an MSc.. My two cents? A lot of people on both of my degrees, especially undergrad, were frighteningly unaware of anything going on in the world, practically unskilled and about as poorly prepared for reality as is possible to be. The university system doesn’t spoon feed you common sense like it does bullshit to rugurgitate in pointless exams, unfortunately, and thus generally churns out useless people who go on to be useless until they have been away from home for at least a decade. ESPECIALLY ONES FROM LONDON, who pretty much all live at home whilst in Uni itself, not much use in terms of having to grow out of being a two-faced teenager.
    But I digress. My point here was that what the system does in general is train people to be good at stupid memory games, and hence the world in which we live at the end of 2011 is falling apart economically, socially and intellectually due to the juvenile competitive attitudes bred by this retarded system, which is what everyone on here has probably realised.
    I’ve got through it by talking as much to the Doctors and Professors as I can get away with without annoying them too much about shit they teach that interests me, and broadly ignoring the majority of what the student body had to say. Make use of the knoledge of the knowledgeable, and ignore the bell-ends surrounding you. I even managed to commute 300 miles once a week for the first and final terms of my (two-year thanks to HND) undergrad and learning for myself at home (in my OWN FLAT) using notes from the web, and thus avoiding the expense of living in a bug infested shithole in London. Currently I hide daily in the basement to eat my lunch rather than socialising for an hour every day in the little common room listening to people who, owing to the amount of time they waste masturbating mentally on facebook, probably don’t have much of relevance to say. Fuck people, fuck social networking and fuck doing a pointless PhD beyond this!

  1807. OK, seven years. Lesson of the day here is evidently that university will cause you to become mathematically inept :)

  1808. I really really hate university. I wish I would just find the courage to leave the stinking place behind and live my life the way I want it. My biggest dream is to travel the world on foot and whenever I need money, to get a job as a paperboy (or girl, in my case). Unfortunately, that is not how this world works. So here I am, stuck at uni, trying to learn stuff by heart I will forget in less than a week. I have learnt nothing of importance that I can use for a job. I don’t feel that I’m qualified at all. I really want to quit, but I don’t have the money for it. I hate my program and I’ve come to hate learning. I’m no longer curious and I wish I could just stay home and lie in my bed all day. Uni depresses me.
    I used to be a bubbly, bright person in high school. Top of the class, loved to work on assignments and loved school in general. University has taken it away and left me sad, depressed and praying that I get hit by a car before I get to the train that will take me to the damned place.

    I hate it. I really really hate it!

  1809. People need to expose their outrageous and abusive professors on YouTube. Universities are accountable to nobody (unfortunately) and the only thing they fear is publicity. So document it spread it. Course eval forms are useless because in many universities, the professor can sign a form blocking the evaluation results from being shared. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz5v2Yusr9E

  1810. why i hate university? First of all i read some comments…but still my feelings is not the same! i live in ukraine and in my country we have good university only in Kiev.But i live here But university is killing me!!! i am at third year of studying…and my lesson is so boring that i cannot stand it.and i hate this fucking system because i work so hard and i have such marks as “d”and i think that may be i am stupid? My confidence is rather low because of this!
    i live at home but itis hard to get up because you ask yourself such questions like;”WHY?I hate this fucking university and i still have to go there! and itis hard for me to leave home every morning.i used to write a poetry or even novels but now i cannot because my imagination is gone!!!!i have depression..and itis killing me… my mates is so boring .they just neirds. and i cannot drop it because of my dad.he every day complains why i havennot grant and he pays for me!!!!and i used to like languages and now i just hate it!!!
    i am so depressed because i understand that someday i have to go to office.

  1811. I haven’t read all the comments yet but I’ll chime in. I hate university too. 4 years of thousands of my hard earned cash and I still don’t know shit. I could have learned everything myself and I’m actually learning to program myself as a backup plan because I really don’t see how graduating will help. The teachers can’t teach, they don’t even seem to care, and one even said “I don’t care if you learn anything, I just want to see if you do the readings”, jokingly, but hearing that comment made me sick.

    If I knew university was so useless, I would have spent time self-learning. I hate that I can’t drop out now because I’m so close to graduating. I hate the lack of academic excellence and laziness from other students and staff alike. Everything is about completing an assignment for a certain course and some courses are duplicates of other courses and are a waste of time. No emphasis is put on actually learning or piquing curiosity for subjects.

    University has taken the interest of what I wanted to learn out of me. It just makes me sleepless having to do group projects where biased profs judge you on your first assignment and see at that skill level for the rest of the course no matter what. You do what they ask and then they say it’s still wrong. I don’t have time to explore things outside of school because the projects take so damn long to jump through their hoops of so-called criteria. I’m basically a loser since uni.

  1812. Hi folks Kie here from all those times ago. Life does get better. Got a home, a car and a good woman now. So I say to all, just hang in there. Merry Christmas to you all, have a happy holiday and chill. It does get better. I promise!

  1813. I hate it too, it’s stressful, there’s too much work. You spend your time writing reports on things that don’t matter, you spend your life in group projects trying to make a small impact where there’s loads of other people trying to claim your credit. University does take the interest out of everything, with it’s processes, weird rules and arbitrary deadlines and dead to the rest of the world people who review and examine your stuff. You have no friends apart from other people at university and they’re all stressed with their own projects and work and even if you go out with them, you just talk about the same things.
    The only thing that really alleviates the endless treadmill is the other people, different perspectives and the odd interesting conversations. But most of the people you interact with are just dead themselves and stuck on the same treadmill.
    The only sad thing for me, is it’s a longer sentance since I work there.

  1814. I hate this shit. Another Christmas ruined by an assignment death march. No matter how hard you work or how hard you push yourself to get things done, it never goes away and just hangs over you like a pointless fucking cloud.

    It would actually be easier to get things done if there was any point in the stuff we were doing and the work was actually interesting. Hahahahaha that’ll never happen. I’m kicking myself because I could have dropped out a year ago for full time work but I was blinded and sweet talked into staying on in academia. I shoudnt have listened because that job would have sucked but at least paid well on sensible hours. It is 4.53am as I write this, coursework go to hell because you’ll just do what your supervisor tells you but it will always be wrong anyway so fuck it.

  1815. Hi, this site seems to be a great place.
    I’m in my third year in university and have two more to go. I really hate it – you have to study way too much if you want to pass your exams. I also didn’t make any new friends – actually the only friend that I have is one boy that I know from high school who is studying here too. I admit that I’ve been asocial for as long as I can remember, but university just made it worse. I don’t think that I’m a bad person, maybe I’m just too different from others. If there is anyone else here who feels the same or a similar way, you can write me to hate_uni@yahoo.com. I’ll be glad to become friends online (but why not in real life too?).

    And Happy Holidays everyone!

  1816. I also feel really disappointed by university, I think it started because they didn’t have room for me in halls so I have my own flat and live alone, I am perfectly happy with the situation but other first years seem really put off by the fact that I live alone, the fact is, I could afford to (because I go to a “New University” in the middle of nowhere where flats are cheap) and I knew no one when I arrived and was unwilling to sign up to live with a complete stranger for a whole year! Other than that everything seemed to be going well, I avoided freshers events and refused to add people I had only just met on facebook (possibly a poor idea in this day and age but oh well) but was out and meeting people and seemed to be on the way to making friends and then it just stopped. I now feel really down about the whole thing, my degree is based completely on group work, which, if you have no friends and feel isolated, is awful, so now my work is suffering and I just want to give up, the only thing that is pulling me through is the thought that I am already 1/6th of the way through and I haven’t given up hope yet that something might improve!

  1817. Oh, and Merry Christmas everyone!

  1818. i’m in college and i FUCKING HATE IT! i thought going to uni was what i wanted but it’s not! 4 months of college and i’m hating it! i had such a good summer, didn’t worry about tomorrow, did what i wanted, earned money and spent all my free time with mates, thought to myself “yeah this is good but i can’t do this forever, start of september need to focus and work on getting a degree”…FUCK IT! i’m miserable, lonely, skint… i’ve started suffering with insomnia and mild panic attacks, i’m depressed and did i mention SKINT! i can’t do it any more. i can’t sacrifice my mental and physical health for the sake of investing for my future – who who can predict the fucking future anyway!

    i get on with 2 or 3 people on my college course but the rest of them have behaved like dicks! 2 of them went on a gap year (that mummy and daddy helped fund!) and now they have the monopoly and low down on life. they can never put their hands down in class and stfu! they’re all too happy to impart their experiences and words on wisdom on everyone so we have to sit there and listen to their life fucking stories. ive got assignments coming out of my ears and i’ve worked my arse off, got graded a distinction then got marked down by my tutor, failed my maths test and felt like a thicko! i’ve just got a TASTER of what uni is like and i hate it…

    back to work i go!

  1819. I love this thread!

    I, too, hate University…

    I understand totally the fake people (2 sets of stalkers later, due to the fact I am a popular person without being a try-hard) and why it feels you’re alone when certain flakes go round talking absolute crap about you to people.

    I also understand the frustration at lecturers. I think out of a department with something like 36 staff, I have found 2 that resemble humans to at least some small degree. Over the past few months I have lost 4 relations and been told another 2 are going to die, been in a near-death collision and a few months later a hit and run. I will be waiting until 1 week before my exams are due to start to hear the verdict of postponing them to allow me to get my head together. This came after sitting in an office for 20minutes with someone who repeatedly told me that I had no need to be struggling and other people in other departments may have 5 exams. “But they haven’t just found out they’re losing 6 members of their family and been in 2 car accidents in the past 5 months” was met with dirty looks and another argument that I shouldn’t need time to grieve..

    I have listened to at least 4 lecture their bigotted, small minded views as though they are fact (my favourites have to be ‘homeless people are the lowest of the low’ – apparently even murderers and rapists are better human beings than those who have experienced hardship; and ‘EVERY battered child goes on to beat their children’ – yes, that explains why battered children as adults are allowed to keep their children without any social work intrusion. For those who don’t actually know, there is no invasion. Battered child adults are left to raise their children the same as any other person. Some do go on to beat their kids, but NOT all of them. You’d think a lectuer who had specialty in that area would know that.).

    On top of that they have a marking criteria that they don’t stick to, and they mark you wrong on points that you were clearly right about!! And that’s when they manage to set an essay question that can’t mean an entire area’s worth of knowledge! If you approach them with an issue they reverse it as much as possible (“Dr, I have written proof here that I am the victim of stalking and harrassment from another student” – he tried to make it my own fault that someone was going out of their way to stalk me). How am I supposed to trust them?!!

    I’m not an 18 year old. I’m a mature student and single mum. I’ve worked all my life. I’ve spent 6 years homeless. I preferred that to the past 2.5 years of University life.

  1820. The Angry Bird

    @I HATE UNI, HELP ME!
    Tell that librarian that she has no right to boss over you. Ask her this question: “Who is the one who raised me? Who is the one who paid me?” (Try that with a cunning smile on your face)
    “My parents raised me, and my boss paid me. Did you? You’re just the manager here and you have no right to be bossing over my performance.

    Who cares about your lousy bonus? Do that one more time and I shall report you to the authorities for attempting to bribe me!

    Return her whatever money/expensive presents that she ever gave you and just leave that place. I hope that will shut your manager up. Best of luck!

    Secondly, do you know that it is unethical to do work for others’ and let them pass it off as theirs? It can get you in trouble sooner or later, so stop doing it. Just report them to your professor/lecturer and let them fail.

    It’s a rat race out there, the only thing that matter is yourself. You owe them nothing, so just get out of the rat race! Being in uni doesn’t mean that you have to be like everyone else.

    @MsT:
    You remind me of my ex-classmate. She, too, was a mature student and a mother as well. However, halfway through her diploma she was so disappointed in the school’s quality that she dropped out.

    @ To the rest of you:
    Assuming that most of you are engineering majors, try to submit your thesis early. Ignore your classmates who pressure you to do work for them. Try studying at night (part-time) if the daytime doesn’t suit you.

    If, after three times and your professor keeps rejecting your thesis, trust your gut feeling and just submit. He/she is probably picking on you and I don’t believe that anyone can get it 100% correct. Just a pass or credit is enough to be safe.

    If you are forced to attend lectures just for the sake of attendance, bring a meaningful book to read or bring your laptop to finish other assignments.

    We will get through it! Best of luck to you all!

    Happy New Year!

  1821. The Angry Bird

    @MsT
    I don’t mean to tell you to drop out, it will be a waste. If you are British, do consider Open University or other online courses.

    Harrassment is a very serious matter, MsT and I HATE UNI! HELP ME! If they are not taking action about it, you will need to consider alternatives of university in order to protect yourselves.

  1822. University stifles any creative energy or originality. It seeks to blend everyone into conformity via spewing out the commonly held human beliefs on a particular topic. Those who become the best at this are those who are bland loners who are happy to read books by themselves all day (if you do an arts course, like me).

    I should have followed my dreams in music because at least then I wouldn’t be a sell out and could have made a lot more money than a college degree will make me over a lifetime. At the moment I reckon I’m going to write novels after graduation, but I have lost years of artistic development because I listened to ‘wise’ sheep who told me to focus on an academic degree because I am intelligent enough to write.

    What a complete waste of a life.

  1823. my dream is to fly

    im doin engineering currently and am absolutely hating it. failing many of my classes. my heart doesnt want me to do it :/.
    evry minute is challenging.
    there’s all toppers in my branch( information technology).
    I never viewed myself as being a software developer in my childhood.
    then why am i here?..and the bad part is that my parents have already spent their hard earned money here so i really feel guilty.
    clueless on wat 2 do..
    feel lik endin it all in once. :/

  1824. guys, please go to university, i dont want you guys to end up like me… i’m 46, not married, and living with my mom. i’m a salesman in a grocery store with only a highschool diploma. P.S. GO TO COLLEGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1825. I am one of those people who literally doesn’t have a clue what to do with my life. As far as I know I’ve got one life and want to make the most of it having fun and enjoying as much of it as possible. I’m in my last year at school and the deadlines are mounting… YOU MUST HAVE DECIDED YOUR LIFE BY NOW OR ELSE! I hate it so much, Secondary schools really need to support their students more and talk about how horrible this transition is. I feel like after school that’s it – your life is done.

    I’m actually going through sleepless nights thinking about it all. Hence why I’m on this site. The truth is I don’t know if I want to bore myself for the next four years and accumulate a large student debt. and for what so I am considered intelligent? Truthfully, I’m thinking about applying for college, maybe a child care course as everyone in my family say’s I’m amazing with children and could be a Nanny for a wealthy family or be a nursery assistant. I don’t want to be stuck in an office job. I think I need to do whats right for me and I read somewhere that you can’t depend on money or a highly paid job to make you happy. Imagine all the stress of having to go through medical/law school, to have a stressful, demanding job.

    At the same time I feel Uni is forced upon young people and we are deemed ”unaccomplished” if we don’t go, Am I the only one who is wasting their final year at school being stressed and depressed about all of this? If not I’d love to hear from you.

  1826. Both my parents are teachers.

    My brother went to oxford and got a 2:1 Maths degree and now works for a bank.

    I didn’t really have a choice in the matter of education.

    In terms of university, I just wanted to go to the one that put the most distance between me and my parents. Not really the initial reason you want to hear but I had no freedom what so ever. So that’s the only plus I’ve found so far. To this day I have no particular idea on jobs I want to do. I did have one that caught my attenetion, but when I asked about it to one of my lecutres, he told me that the degree I’m on (Food Science and Nutrition) isn’t suited to it and I’m not smart enough to get on it. Know what the job was? FOOD buyer. Yeah. Anything involved after this degree only excepts 2:1 and higher results. I sit and usually try my best only to get results along the lines of 2:2. What the hell am I suppose to do if I come out of uni with a 2:2? No-one will be interested in me and I have no work experience! Waste of time and money!

    Also I too was told that these were to be fun years of my life but this hasn’t really happened yet. In my first year I had to share a flat with girls I didn’t know who didn’t really see “eye to eye” with me if that makes sense. Basically they were both party animals who brought random people home at 3 in the morning where as I am a quiet nerd, happy to sit in and play xbox all night. I had some enjoyment by finding a new boyfriend (who doesn’t even go to university yet) only to be dumped 6 months later. I only have friends in the games society held at the uni, no particular “girlfriends” to hang out with, and I only properly trust 2 people here. Back at home I was part of a 20 strong group of friends. Now I just have to put up with the same people day in day out who constantly wonder into our home that I now share with three guys. Sorry but I had no soical life for 18 years so I’m not use to this! I’d get out more but I don’t get along with anyone in my classes and the guys I do hang about with and their friends just get on my nerves too much.

    Fun? What fun? I’m sad, heartbroken, stressed, poor, hide in my attic most days and I’m techniqually failing on a degree which won’t be any use to me in 2 years time….got me away from home at least.

  1827. Your life is not wasted. From reading what I just did, you can write. You’re being way to hard on yourself, even if you are right – it doesn’t give the student as much creativity as they so should be able to expresss. If you beleive in yourself, which you should, then you know that you’re going to go far in life.. you already have.
    Do you understand how many lives you have changed with what you do? You changed mine. For the better, that is. You’re the most inspiration person I’ve ever seen, and you make so many people happy; you need to focus on making you happy,and that starts by not cutting yourself down.. You have so much potential, and maybe you just have to endure through all the stress of University to “expand your horizons.”
    You’re strong, smart, and can overcome anything.
    I believe in you.

  1828. ^^^ couldn’t agree with the comment above^^^^

    You have changed my life too!!
    And you are loved by so many people

  1829. ^^^^ I meant to say couldn’t agree more, not couldn’t agree, sorry^^^^

  1830. I’m approaching towards what will be my first year at university, and so far im not enjoying it.

    I just feel that continuously writing essays is not something I enjoy nor will it further my career prospects. If I manage to finish university I will probably still end up working in McDonalds and so I wonder whether I should just pack up and quit now?

    However I also sometimes wonder whether “the grass really is greener on the other side”, and I am unsure whether leaving university would be a something I regret later on in life. I just can’t decide whether university will be useful in the long run, or whether its just a serious waste of money and time.

  1831. The Angry Bird

    You poor folks!
    Well, I am also one of the people who find university an absolutely unbearable place to be in.
    I’ve come up with my coping strategy, and all of you are welcome to know about it. It may not work for everyone’s case, but I would just like to contribute something.

    Problem: Uninteresting and lack of creativity.
    Coping strategy: Get the ‘boring work’ done as soon as possible. Complete assignments and project work ahead of time. The thought of completing university as soon as possible should be ample motivation, but don’t get too caught up with getting high grades unless necessary.

    During the rest of the time, if you are done with your assingments and submitted them, do something engaging and meaningful that you would like to do.

    Problem: Fake friends and unhelpful people.
    Coping strategy: Avoid the temptation to fit in for the sake of doing so. During the first few months, quietly observe the people in the university, and wisely pick out and be with those that you find are worth forging a friendship with. Quantity doesn’t matter, it’s the quality that matters.

    If there is not a single person in the university that you find worth being friends with, be happy being alone and with your other friends outside of your university.

    Problem: Poor-quality lectures
    Coping strategy: This is going to be the hardest, but self-studying is the key. If you’re lucky, there will be some good classmates and helpful lecturers who are willing ot tutor you. Otherwise, we’ll have to rely on ourselves.

    However, be mentally prepared that university will not be a positive experience at all. For those of us who have already began our studies, it is a waste to drop out midway. Hang on there. All these will end someday.

    As for those who are considering but unsure/ do not have the resources yet/ still young, think twice before doing so. You can always earn the money first or consider your options, before making a decision. There is always the option to return to university after you’ve began working, if one day a degree is required for your career advancement.

    Think carefully before stepping in, and once you are in, please don’t give up!

  1832. university=heartkiller

  1833. Hi guys.
    After being at home for just over 2 weeks and coming back to university, I feel very down. I don’t think I’ve ever felt this depressed before.
    I’m a first year student, studying a design course, at a university that I didn’t apply for but had to through clearing as I didn’t get the A-level grades I was hoping for, which means the university I’m at is much less prestigious than the one I was hoping to go to.
    As I went though clearing, I wasn’t illegible for halls, so initially had to live with my mums boyfriend and commute. I’m now in halls, but am not close to my flatmates at all, more of a Hi Bye relationship. I have made good friends on my course though so that isn’t really a problem, although they are not in the same halls as me so it can get quite lonely.
    What’s getting me down the most is that I feel I’m not passionate enough or as creative in design as I thought I was. Every project seems like a chore, a drain. I’m doing ok, getting 65% on average, but I leave everything last minute because I don’t want to do it. I can’t see myself becoming a “designer” after the course as it is so competitive. I’m not sure weather to drop out an reapply for something more academic?
    It’s a horrible feeling not knowing what the future holds, as cheesy as that sounds.
    Please let me know what you think!

  1834. I hate university because its boring and lonely.

    I don’t have *friends*, not like at home, i just have loads *acquaintences*.

    I’m 20 & surrounded by 18yr olds who are buzzing on freedom.UGH.

  1835. I’ve been reading these posts and I feel absolutely shocked and a bit confused, as well. I don’t know how things are in the UK (which seems to be where a lot of these posters are from), but here, going to college is a massive opportunity. And it is NOT something to be taken for granted. All I’ve ever wanted was to go to college and study what I love, and learn. I’m not there for the friends and the “experience of a lifetime”. I’m there because I love to learn, I am passionate about my majors, and I WANT to be there. I admit, college is not for everyone. So if it isn’t for you, why are you paying SO much money for it? I’m completely on my own to pay for college. So I’m working my butt off for scholarships and loans and it isn’t easy, and I DO spend a whole lot of time on my school work. But that’s what I’m there for. I almost didn’t get to go to college because where I’m from, it isn’t just a next step. And it doesn’t happen easily. I am blessed to be where I am, and if I didn’t like it, I wouldn’t stay. Nobody should. There are a LOT of people who would love nothing more than take any of your places in a university in order to an education. But they can’t. I was almost one of those people, and I simply cannot fathom this attitude towards college. Perhaps this is cliche, but college is largely what you make of it. And if you are going to make it a sob-fest, I guess that’s what you’re going to be paying for. Doesn’t seem worth it if you look at it that way. Guess I just wanted to remind people that what they complain about and take for granted, someone else who isn’t as fortunate would take your place in a SECOND. Get your money’s worth, learn as much as you can, and change your attitude or get out of there.

  1836. fuckkkkkkk shit pisses me off doing work all day, get depressed and
    shit. These next four years will be miserable but fk it. how can everyone else put on a happy face and do all the shit uni throws at us and they just love to eat it all up. wtf how can the enjoy eating this shit. competing against people that can work from when they get up to when they sleep u just get fucked up

  1837. Some advice i think: fuck it just do its bs and after its all done you can look yourself in the mirror and say “i did it”.

  1838. Those who have had a bad university experience should also leave a bad review in google for their uni’s search results. (Although you’d need a gmail account to leave reviews.) Uni seems abundantly populated by bullies amongst both staff and students.

  1839. prospective student?

    im only in highschool and im supposed to go off to university in two years. this website helped me realize that university fucks you up worse than highschool does.
    for that reason, i have decided to die.
    goodbye world.

  1840. I worked my arse off to get 3 A’s at A level because all i wanted to do was go to uni. I couldnt wait! Ive now done 3 months and its the biggest let down ever. The lecturers are rubbish, im keeping up just about with the work, I have friends here but ‘forced friends’ i guess. The whole social atmosphere is rubbish. Everything is horrible and I hate it :( Quitting is not an option. My dad went to Oxford and I want to make him equally proud. Dont know what to do ….noone knows i feel like this.

  1841. I absolutely hate university.It depresses the shit out of me.Some of the lecturers are full of themselves and cowards as they hesitate to discuss certain issues and I hate most of the other students…especially those stupid girls who come to uni all made up and shit.Sad,fake,gossipping,arrogant,drunken,slutty little airheads.

  1842. The only thing i hate about university life is the stereotypes you see the people around you playing up to. The aspects you dislike most in a person is definitely bound to be in many of the people you have to live with in halls. The fake relationships people seem to make just so they don’t appear to be ‘unpopular’ or god forbid be one of the ‘weird people who don’t leave their room’. The lack of respect your fellow students (most of them around the age of 20) have, and how they act like they’ve never had a beer before, is just amazing. Every night out is ‘epic’ and you just know that if they could they had the guts they would quit uni and just stay living there just to keep the ‘mad student’ lifestyle. The girls run around drunk crying at stupid times in the morning, and if you don’t feel like taking part in this, you are automatically the outcast or ‘boring’. I actually envy the people who keep themselves in their room and don’t let themselves be part of this stereotype, as now i have people knocking on my door and there is no consideration or respect for when i want to stay in on my own for ONE night. Even to study. GROW THE F UP.

  1843. I worked so hard all of the first year making ‘friends’, trying to ignore the fact I was desperately unhappy, and now I’m stuck with them every night badgering me out of my room. But I’m over that whole scene, there is noone intresting to meet, (it’s a small town), and my grades are slipping now too. If I don’t get good grades then the whole thing will not only have been completely miserable but will be pointless too! But I don’t want to drop out and feel like a complete failure

  1844. its now 10pm. tomorrow, at 2pm i have a coursework deadline. i haven’t started yet. im in my third year, and since the middle of first year i’ve been slowly loosing any motivation and passion i once had for the subject. now i have none, not a single bit. the only reason i haven’t quit, is that my parents are paying for me, and i wouldn’t want them to get in 10s of thousands of pounds worth of debt for me to quit right at the last minute. im so hoping that i find motivation soon, i hope i find something that can help me drag me through these soul destroying months until i finish, and get some dead end job, as degrees now a days are worth sh*t…

  1845. fuck this shit. university sucks ass

  1846. The Angry Bird

    @K: *Sarcastic* Wow, that’s just aspired me to quickly pass my college diploma and get out of there ASAP. Thanks! Would you like to take over my place while you are at it?

    (Ok, let’s be serious now.) However, it is because I need the degree as soon as possible. In life, we are sometimes required to do what we dislike to do, but it’s part of life, and it is not necessary to “change the attitude”, as long as you get it done. The solution is to just accept it and get done with it.

    So yes, you are describing about me, but please don’t go about making assuptions about the other people here.

    I am sure discussing about our problems here does no harm, and besides, none of us posted the name of our college/university because we are not out there to spoil their reputation.

  1847. I love this site, I thought I was the only one!! Im a second year art student seriously questionnning why I am at Uni at all. I feel like im in the same room but a different planet to my classmates, the course is just an expensive waste of time, and I am constantly clashing heads with my lecturers- we never see eye to eye.

    At the same time though, Im so scared of quitting as it would be a waste of fees so far, and I wouldnt want to regret it in 10 years time.

    Again tho, the thought of another year of this is soul destroying..

    Did anybody ACTUALLY drop out in the end? hows life going for you guys?????

    I would love to just live on some beach somewhere, either hawaii, Aus, or California teaching yoga and making bracelts out of shells, learning to surf, living a simple stress free life….

  1848. The Angry Bird

    @K: Sorry if I spoke to harshly, but I really dislike your notion of encouraging disappointed people to quit or get lost. Some of the people here may be suicidal, and receiving demoralizing advice does them no good. They’d be wasting their time, effort and money, or worst, their life.

    You sound like a bright student, and I am sure you will potentially earn a scholarship and be reserved a place in a good university in the future, and so will all other brilliant students who are serious in their studies. So there is no need for you to tell others to quit.

    Let me share something about UK’s education system. Students who do not fulfil the minimum criteria of attendance and grades will be expelled or suspended. That’s the rules for my college, but I don’t know about the others in UK. If this is the case, you won’t be having a problem in getting a place in a UK university if your grades are good. So don’t worry about the other students.

    @prospective student?: Please don’t die because of what we say!
    We only make up a small portion of university students in the world and what we says does not represent what other university students are going to experience. Who knows, you might get a better experience than all of us!

    So if you don’t try, you will never know. If you still don’t want to go to university, you can try studying in a community college or working to find out your interests first. Try persuading with your parents about it with this website. All the best!

  1849. I have already left a few posts, but I will post again. I’m a first year philosophy student in the UK. I was quite unhappy at the end of the first term, but any potential action was paralysed by indecision and at the joy of being away from university and on holiday. I now feel more depressed and homesick then ever. Over the course a few months, I seem to have completely lost interest in my subject. I’m leaning more and more towards deferring my second year, so that I don’t go so far as dropping out but so that the possibility of going back to university is still there. Every day here is a challenge, I just have no motivation anymore……. I have told my parents I am unhappy and they are very understanding but posed the question of what I would do if I left university. I’m hard working and creative enough to be successful, I’m confident of that. It would be interesting to hear from any dropouts, to see if leaving university is worth it…

  1850. I’m just about to go back to uni after the Xmas break; to start the second semester of my first year there but I honestly don’t think I can drag myself back. I doubt I can explain myself as eloquently as I could right now as I’m not in the most focused mood, though I’ll try my best.
    Being at university has been one the most miserable times of my life. It has also been the time when I’ve been driven the closest to insane that I ever have been.
    I hate the course. It is nothing like the outline given on the open day. Everything was dressed up so well that I couldn’t see through the lies, and tell that I wouldn’t learn anything of any value or coherency. The lectures are a joke. The lesson plan always seems to be: “Everyone scream your opinions at the class. Listen to the lecturers opinion. His is right and yours is wrong. Write 2000 words on it.”
    What’s worse is that the lecturers are useless. They epitomise the “Ivory Tower” stereotype. I had the pleasure of listening to one tell a girl, who turned out to be from a pretty poor background, that only rich and successful people should be listened to in political matters. She didn’t want “…the type of people who buy LOTTERY TICKETS running her country…”
    At night the halls turn to hell. The drunken sports students (Not stereotyping, the majority of people here are) fight in the corridors and grope the women. Gangs of men try to kick in your door, climb in your window, and smash up the building. This is all while music blasts until 4am. Then EVERYONE gets charged for the damage. Even if you were one of the few barricaded in their rooms, expecting to get broken into any second. The staff don’t care about you, just getting your money.
    Most of the students are closed minded, phony, pretentious rich kids; only there to party off their parents money.
    One “mature” student, in her 50′s, decided that one guy from the class was gay and proceeded to out him to the class, and try to set him up with guys. He wasn’t gay. Even age can’t give anyone here any wisdom.
    The daily routine at uni is: Get up.Go for a jog. Lecture. Lonely misery sat in room, waiting to go to bed.
    It doesn’t help that I’ve made only one friend. And that’s pushing it slightly. None of the people in my halls talk to me. They have parties next door to me and don’t even invite me, no matter how many times I make an effort to socialise.
    Meanwhile I’m poor and gathering debt.
    The problem is that I’m trapped; I’ve had it drummed into me all my life that if you “drop out” of education your life will be ruined, and I that I think I subconsciously believe it. Even if I didn’t believe it, I’d still Know that if I left I would only end up in the gutter. I live in a dreary town where there is nothing.
    I could go on, but it’s making me too angry. I had to repeat college to get the grades to get to uni, I was promised that it would be the best time of my life, I get here; it’s shite. I don’t know what to do.

  1851. I’m in the same boat Tim! Got a deadline for 2pm tomorrow and have no motivation to get it done!
    I’m in my final year at uni, literally have 20 weeks left and then i’ll be done, but i’m finding it so depressing and hard! I wanted to leave at the end of semester 1 in my first year but was advised to stick it out the rest of the year. In the end I did quite well, got about 68% and figured I’d be better after the summer. And now I’m too far though to stop – despite hating it.
    I’ve found my university to be one disappointment after the next, with stupid systems for selecting dissertation projects that leave nothing for the imagination or motivation to only having 4 and half hours of lectures a week, where the lecturer’s just read off the PowerPoint slides or ask you to discuss in groups.
    I have no motivation to do anything, and despite knowing I’m not the only one feeling like this, friends at uni seem to be getting on with it and having deadlines met in plenty of time and knowing what they want to do when they leave etc… it doesn’t help.
    I think if you’re doing the right course at the right uni it can be the most magical and worthwhile experience, but if you’re not so lucky then it can be soul destroying. I think I have less confidence in my academic abilities than I’ve ever had before – unapproachable lecturers who give you a lines feedback for an essay just don’t help.
    I feel like I should have just done an open university course or an apprenticeship or just got a job, but like most of the above comments I have an almost snobbish attitude towards not having a degree… it’s been written into me that you won’t get anywhere without one, but to be honest I don’t know where I’m going with one atm – all I want is a job that pays and you can leave your work at work (no all nighters to reach deadlines!) and then earn enough money to enjoy my free time with friends and family having fun!

  1852. I think the sheer amount of replies to this shows that we’re not alone! I’m in my second year, doing a BA. It’s been a time of extremes – I’ve made some great friends. My advice to those of you who haven’t made friends is to hang in there, because it took me a long while! But I spent the first semester of Uni basically crying all the time. I thought I was bipolar. Went to the doctor and she laughed at me – apparently “severe anxiety” (which is what I had) is very common for Uni students.
    I’ve had some really amazing times, and been so happy – but then I’ve had the darkest moments of my whole life, when I’ve thought of throwing myself in front of cars and such.
    At the moment, things are okay. I’m not doing amazingly, but my grades are average. But I’ve seen so many people on here saying that Uni has destroyed their creativity and their view of life… Same here. I used to be so optimistic, really wanted to change the world. University forces an overly harsh view of reality on you. Don’t take it! Just get through it, live for the good times, and hold on to your spark, your creativity, your love of life. If people call you “naive”, then why is that a bad thing? Live the life you want, a good, happy and fulfilling life, not the one society thinks is best, with useless regurgitated, hollow education. Don’t let it beat you!

  1853. Im so glad im not alone!! I hate university, im in my last year too..so i cant leave! It would be stupid to i know that! But i hate going there, setting foot in that place makes me feel sick…i get such bad anxiety over it…i agree with an earlier post : “90% of people you meet at uni wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire” — i have definately realised that at my university. They are all so fake and two-faced, some people are more than happy to throw you under a bus if it means they do better in an assignment, some people won’t even send you or help you find a fucking seminar reading which isnt even MARKED! Some of the lecturers don’t bother me as much, but some of them OMG!!! talk about your boring egotisical annoying twats!!!!!

    Thing is i want to learn….i do! i wanna get my degree and fuck off but what is stopping me is the people and the area..i have had such bad memories there that i cant help but feel anxious :( GOD! whyyyyyyyyy

    Anyone got any tips as to what i can do?? Because (As sad as it sounds) the day before each lecture i cry for at least 15/20mins until i eventually fall asleep then have to drag my sorry ass out of the house to (in my opinion)the fakest, bitchiest and sometimes most racist place ive ever been to

  1854. Thinking of skipping my 2nd exam tomorrow, already skipped one on tuesday and I really dont care what the consequences are….The course am doing has made me hate the whole thing (LAW….TERRIBLE…TERRIBLE LAW), Fuck University…Its really unlikely i’ll still be there next semester and I really dont care what anyone or my parents think. Am planning on opening a studio. Having severe clinical depression hasn’t helped either, as I type this am supposed to be studying for an exam I have tomorrow morning at 9am…its 1am in the country am in right now, Iv never attended class, dont know what they taught in the course the whole semester, not a single thing, have no notes and I REALLY dont give a fuck. University and the course am doing have on more than one occasion made me fantasize, emphasis on the word fantasize; throwing myself in front of a car, jumping of a bridge or swallowing a copy of one of Lady Gaga’s albums and its not far fetched seeing as I have tried suicide before but enough of that, Point is…University sucks and I gave up on it, my first day in it, its my 2nd year and nothings changed, NOTHING…..and I thought nothing would be worse than my high school and that was bad, wanna know how much? Just google I hate high school think ive posted on a group about that to…Anyway right now am going to bed cos its one thirty, in the morning i’ll take a nice warm bath, dress up, grab my pen and my exam permit, walk out of my residency and walk right past my faculty to club 5 ( to any one wondering what club5 is, its a bar), drink for the 3 hours that my exams supposed to last walk back to Residency, tell my roommate the exam was great then beat myself up on the inside at how messed up I am. Once again, FUCK UNIVERSITY.

  1855. martin lex luther king kong

    giant that was TOO REAL but seriously dawg I relate to literally all of that. i wanna quit life and go live in cambodia or something how easy is it to just like do than and not be homeless. no chance thats what woop future prospects fuck yeah

  1856. martin lex luther king kong

    i just made a political cartoon i feel we can all relate to it in these dark times
    http://oi44.tinypic.com/4sjwvd.jpg

    can we turn this site into wheres best to escape to and just stay there forever? like a sort of lonely planet but for useless depressed people with few goals and an unrealistic view on the difficulty of just rockin’ up to asia and sitting on a hammock with a spliff and a monkey butler and refusing to leave

  1857. martin lex luther king kong

    for those of you who want to know… the ducks didn’t make it. some say the mother duck waited by that drain through wind and rain, until she died slowly. the ducklings tried to stay afloat in the sewage, tiny wings flapping until fatigue set in, lungs all filling with human waste as conciousness was ripped away from them… all making lil squaking noises like ‘mum… im dying please’ and the mum all ‘I… I dont know what to do Im a duck… keep flapping oh god why is the world so cruel’

    yo also are depictions of american colleges in films accurate? does asher roth love college as much as he says?

  1858. I am literally exhausted. I don’t like uni. All my flatmates constantly want me to go out. I hate drinking. I hate the person i become when i drink. I already screwed up my life because of that. I don’t know why i let myself be pressured into it in the first place. I guess it’s cause they keep saying: “it’s so much more fun with you. please come out with us tonight” and i give in. I have stopped now. and it’s been a month. but i am scared that i will start again.
    i also hate the people on my course. they are just way to keen. i wish i was as keen as them. they never seem to be doing anything.. except working. i don’t understand why. i feel like i don’t belong there.
    to top things off my life just keeps getting more and more screwed up by the second. my bank account got closed, cause i had an overdraft of £8.03 for a week. they tried to contact me by post but the letter arrived late! :/
    and since i am a foreign student it takes me forever to open a bank account. I have to pay all my bills manually now, with i don’t know what money.
    On top of that i haven’t made any good friends in uni.. but people i have met keep thinking that we are really close, cause insane amount of people have come to talk to me and shared their deep dark secrets. not trying to be mean,,but FREAKING LEAVE ME ALONE! i am just sooo tired of their constant complaining. i am exhausted of my parents constantly fighting. i am exhausted of all the work i constantly have to do. i hate architecture. it kills. nothing makes me happy. i don’t recognise myself. i normally am such a positive person.. and now i feel like uni is killing me. i just want to lie down and stare at white ceiling and wait for time to pass. i just want to be a vegetable :/

    PLEASE SOMEONE WHAT DO I DOOOO… how do i motivate myself? cause i feel like i am giving up.. and i really shouldn’t.. i have to keep pushing, but i just don’t know how..

  1859. martin lex luther king kong

    lets take a look at ihateuniversity user charles’ post on dec 6 2011

    “Just to put my earlier advice in perspective, a friend of mine (pretty bright guy; engineering major) thought he’d take a semester off to travel the world. He ended up getting a job stacking cans and sharing a dingy apartment with another person.

    That was about two years ago, and he still hasn’t been back to uni since. He’s having the time of his life (pretty much all the free time you could want) making shitty music and smoking dope.”

    can we track down charles or better yet charles’ friend? this may be the answer to everything. charles if u there man holla at ur boy mllkk

  1860. @martin lex luther king kong loved your cartoon! ahahha
    describes exactly how i feel. i love this website.

  1861. martin lex luther king kong

    man exhausted that sounds shitty… people always wanting you to come out… being friendly… damn it sucks…

    jk we all friends here. do u like ducks exhausted? do you cry when they die? u ever been tied to a chair and forced to watch the last scene of that futurama where frys dog waits for him outside the pizza shop?

    think im just gonna hang out in this site for a while. gots me some work to do but im probably gonna drop out i guess so whats the point eh. wheres the nearest pile of unorganised cans i gotta stack em stack em real god

    if you miss exams first year do you get kicked out? kinda hope so

  1862. ahahahaha well it is sooo insanely tiring to be constantly positive and try and make people happy all the time. it’s like they suck all the energy out of me.. if that makes any sense.. i am always there for them, whether if it’s a shoulder to cry on or to entertain them. but if i am just literally calm and not in the mood to talk they freak out and start telling me how they hate when i am not in the mood to have fun. can’t i ever be calm?!!! don’t do anything in particular to annoy them, just not in the mood to entertain them :/ i mean i am not a clown…

    ahahah well according to my flatmates i am not a very sensitive person, so no, i don’t cry when ducks die lol
    no i haven’t. glad i haven’t by the sounds of it. lol

    would you actually drop out though? i wish i could, but i don’t have the guts to do so. feel like i have to stick around cause everyone expects me to.. and i mean i worked so hard to get in the fucking uni int he first place.. lol ironic, isn’t it?!

  1863. martin lex luther king kong

    gotta meditation exercise for yall… put on this song first
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKw5mbcE7VY

    ok… now picture a beach… white sand, palm trees swaying… warm evening breeze gently caressing your face and passing through your loose comfy beach threads … the sun lingers lazily in the clear sky surveying all that is good in the world…you stacked all your cans for the day, rollin up 420 u know how it is… guy comes up selling u cheap necklaces… u tell him to get out of your face…

    … back at home your best buddy is pulling an all nighter… 35p energy drinks and the british occupation of india (25% of final grade) are the order of the day… u say whatever bro and sip your coconut… u heard theres gonna be some trill bonfire going on later… hot argentinian girls to pound under the stars… u drivin me loco chica con tu titties…

  1864. martin lex luther king kong

    and yeah exhausted i feel u, dunno if i actually have the guts to do it but im thinking probably.

    holla at my manchester people holdin it down, i heard u can buy guns at gaffs is that true? how do i make it look like im not gonna go on a school shooting and that i blame myself for my failures rather than being overcome with jealousy of other students? how much drop vodka do you have to drink until your organs shut down? is the tower rooftop sealed off? if this is all too morbid for yall i suggest taking my meditation exercise… they call me the guru… got them suggestable middle class mums all up in here cravin dat spiritual eastern wisdom… and dat faux-guru dick u know how it is rich husbands on ur business trip i be keepin ur main girls busy nahmean ;) ;)

  1865. martin lex luther king kong

    anyone recommend finding god? how about tripping off cough syrup?

  1866. haha tbf finding God is probably a better idea than uni… you can’t take your grades with you when you die.

    I feel like im wasting my life in education… we only have a short life really.. i dont think i really need an education.. i just like to think that when i come out of uni, there’ll be more jobs & a better economy

    one can dream..

  1867. martin lex luther king kong

    CHAAAAAAAARLES. charles bro u better come in here and tell me where ur friend is stacking cans livin the life 24/7. ur bros cant be hoarding all our dreams bro cmon speak to me

  1868. martin lex luther king kong

    was happenin people here to share some words from my main man david foster wallace

    http://moreintelligentlife.com/story/david-foster-wallace-in-his-own-words

    I know this speech is kinda about why college is worthwhile but seriously its one of the best speeches ive ever read and I recommend reading it to anyone down about shit. inspiring guy really.

    yo charles im not kidding bro wannabe stacking cans bro dont fuck with me

  1869. I hate university, its my second year, wen i started this year I didn’t want go uni but my parents kept telling u have to go, if you want to be someone, i understand them, they both don’t have a degree, they both work in a restaurant full time… I hate my course though, i have so many assignments coming out, exams and i cant even think straight nor concentrate, Im all stressed out, Im going bit crazy, feel lonely but its not even uni that is so bad, I don’t have any friends there, the friend that i had started to go out with my ex, so nw im alone and she acts like nothing happened, and yes i found out by myself, they both didn’t told me or even concidered how i felt about it even tho me and my ex broke up like 4 months ago. On top of that they both at my uni, I JUST HATE UNI… I have no motivation, nothing, i just feel like giving up on anyfing… and everytime i drive to uni, i just thinking of coming back home… :(

  1870. I’m seriously considering leaving. I’m only a few months in and this is absolute bullshit. It’s not even like it’s that hard – it’s just dull, tedious and feels like all the life has been drained from me already. Christ.

  1871. I’m stumbled over this website whilst googling something stupid like ‘i hate uni’ or ‘uni is not for me’. And it’s not. Uni is not the bloody option for me and I hate all those that pressured me into it. 1) School – 6th form always blabbed on about uni and how you need to attend to go somewhere in life, yet when it came to ucas applications little help was provided and over a week or two i was forced to decide what I wanted to study for the next three years and ultimately have a career in – ya well the pressure had had its toll. 2) my parents – as much as I love them and I know they’re only looking out for me, sometimes I wish they didn’t have expectations from me and that way I wouldn’t be letting them down. 3) society – don’t even get me started!
    What I wrote in my uni applications was and still is true. I do have a passion for writing. I yearn knowledge and experience. I crave success and happiness. Yet university and education is not the way to all that I want. Currently 4 months into it, with a hellish 2.5 years to go! This is going to be one bumpy ride.

  1872. u neeks still moaning about this shit? u hate uni? well let me tell u all a little something about the ‘game of life’ as i like 2 call it … lifes what u make of it my friends, let me guess u complain about having no friends but u stay in ur room all day posting on ur ‘blogs’ and being emotional… texting ur mum to come pick u up or ur gonna ‘just start goin ape and breaking shit’… smh. im in my 2nd year at notts doin business n ive fuckin loved every second… so many opportunities if u actually go out in the real world like i do! grab life by the balls is what i say, no homo. but dont forget to party on the way of course!! haha what is uni without drinkin thats what i say. lighten up and get cunted once in a while guys!! ur parents arent there to tell u not to live a little!! n dont get me started on the amount of pussy i get… jesus m8… grab life by the tits is what i say, then fuck it haha. im the funny one out of r crowd at least thats wat my mates say…
    hope u learned something from me ppl. lifes wot u make it! now im off to pound some pints with the boys!!

  1873. jesse einbecker

    gaz dude u took the words right of my mouth bro… tho i dont speak faggot british lol. anyhow people, gaz is right u guys suck lighten up jeez! im at arizona state majoring in english… shits tight. i just hit up the net n read a plot summary before doin my essays… always gotta be an all nighter the day before lol but thats part of the fun! i get way buzzed on adderall, a little weed, n let the ideas flow… yo sparknotes, u tellin me that the white whale in moby dick represents chaos and the power of nature? ok nice one buddy! yo but im not a perfect student lol… kinda screwed up with my essay on the grapes of wrath… ‘why do the protagonists travel to california’… i was totally blunted at the time n said it was cos they wanted to get smoked, then wrote about why weed should be legalised (less dangerus than alcahol did u know??). my prof wasnt to happy til i let him have a toke… next thing u know he was chillin to a bit of bob marley… i got an A… so sweet

    yo but mainly college fuckin rocks people, where else can u run across a football field while smokin a bong, score a touchdown then proceed to bone every cheerleader in sight… in ur wildest dreams? no man fuckin arizona state!!! man i love it! u guys hatin ‘uni’ (lol) are total dweebs get of ur asses n get urself to the nearest frat party! oh wait u dont even have them in britain? damn well get ur ass down to the nearest ‘pub’ and get hella wasted! gaz my man u tell em!
    peace – jesse xxx

  1874. After doing an undergraduate computing degree, I was unable to find a job. I only got 4 interviews out of nearly 100 job applications. So the careers service suggested I do a postgraduate degree. A year after finishing, I still cannot find a job because I’m now too overqualified. Now I cannot even get any job interviews. So here’s some advice; If your university tries to encourage you to do a postgraduate degree, don’t do it. They are just trying to get your money from fees and accomodation. In addition, 100% of the staff at Lancaster Uni were unhelpful, arrogant and conceited and unfriendly.

  1875. @ Gaz and jessie

    You guys are actually at uni? With grammar like that?

  1876. Im 20 and in my second term of my second year at uni doing a design course and i hate it. i’m 5 – yes 5! hours away from home and am seriously just regretting coming to uni in the first place. 1st year i coped fine as it was all new and exciting and things at home to be honest weren’t great so i was happy to get away.
    But now i’ve come to realise:
    a) my course isn’t what i want to do in the future/as a career and is completely pointless to me and if i’m honest a pointless degree that i don’t believe will be recognised anywhere – which makes me unmotivated and not wanting to do any of the work making me seriously behind with work that cant really be done “the night before” a deadline.
    b) people i believed to be my friends here aren’t at all, id call them acquaintances like someone else pointed out. my friends back home are the people who i trust and who are 100% real and honest with me. – for this reason i am so lonely, i find myself stuck in my house feeling sorry for myself and alone with nowhere to go and no one to go with.
    c) thing at home have improved massively over christmas which now makes me miss home so so much – and the 5hour train journey for £60 (with a railcard) just doesn’t seem affordable and possible every weekend.

    i’m meeting with my tutor tomorrow to discuss this but i’m seriously considering quitting and moving back home to maybe go to college to study beauty – which i absolutely love doing. thing is i’m scared! yes scared to quit, and scared to admit to people i dropped out of uni to do beauty because i couldn’t cope or handle it. when i say i cant handle it i’m worried about myself, since i got back after xmas i’ve cried myself to sleep every night, i’ve lost my appetite and i’ve even considered just overdosing to be able to get out of the shame id feel of being a “uni drop out.” never mind the money spent on coming here that ill be left in debt with !

    I NEED advice. do i stick it out for the rest of the year and another year – even though i’m feeling like this, just to get it done with and to have a “degree” or do i quit now and go pursue another pathway ? :/

  1877. The posts made by “gaz pearson” and “jesse einbecker” are actually by one person. This is a warning to him to avoid replying to himself in the future.

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  1878. Response to AMY I (if you actually read this).

    Just to encourage you that no one should feel this ‘shame’ that you are a failure for dropping out of uni, how is someone a failure for recognising a problem and they want to fix it? Its your life at the end of the day, and anyone that sticks out uni for the sake of impressing EVERYBODY else and feeling miserable on the inside is the bigger failure I believe. So don’t be scared!

    I’m basically in the same position as you- In my 2nd yr. doing Photography and Social Anthropology. This time last yr. I was thinking about dropping out, but just ended up finishing my 1st yr. then dropped out after (june). Reason being I decided I only wanted to do 1 out of the 2 combined course (which you cant do where i study) plus I was inexperienced with photography so i thought doing it at college first would help.

    3 weeks before 2nd yr. started I changed my mind (in hindsight this wasn’t well thought) because i thought I would just minor in the subject I had 0% interest in career wise and major in photography and practise on my skills outside of uni. However not long into 2nd year like 2months in i just found myself seriously thinking is this what I really want to go into? and all the work wasn’t interesting me at all and I HATE DOING ESSAYS ALL THE TIME..so basically was almost depressed and so confused for a while…

    I didn’t really talk to anyone at uni about it cos all my ‘friends’ were just class mates and i never got close to them like that and I didn’t have the guts to approach my tutors about it after I said i was dropping out last yr.!

    Anyways for a while i kept it to myself only asking for advice from 1 close friend who just said I shouldn’t worry if i decide to drop out cos really im living life for me and no one else. if Im confident its the best decision for me then I should go ahead and just do it!

    So at this moment Im telling myself I really cant face going back to something i have no more motivation to do and there’s no point finishing 2nd yr. cos i’d rather use the time now to look into what I want REALLY to do plus it’d be VERY hard to focus on finishing term 2 when i know i will drop out again. I’ve told my family and although they think at least finish yr. 2 they are quite supportive and don’t see me as a failure..I just wanted to prove that I’ve made the right decision and work extra hard finessing something I like and is stable.

    So If someone (me) who comes from a culture where its ALL ABOUT EDUCATION and getting a degree can be brave enough to say their dropping out of uni then surely you can= if you have weighed up your options rationally that is.

    Remember uni is NOT the only path, i hate how in schools that’s how they make it out to be. The only reason I went to uni in the 1st place was because I though that was the only option! Pardon my ignorance but something needs to be done about this in schools!

    Anyway hope you get to read this, I found this helpful although too little too late for me!>>>>> http://www.heruni.com/thinking-about-dropping-out/

  1879. Thank god I’m not alone. I went to uni straight out of school and lasted one week. The move of almost 3 hours from home and the idea of doing a course I wasn’t interested in merely because I got early entry was too much, so I left. I then spent the next 5 years working full time and being miserable so I thought I would give uni another go. I’m now about to start my second year and don’t want to go back, I hate living on campus ( being mature age I just don’t fit in), my hard earned life savings are all but gone because of rent, food, textbooks and the expense of petrol to drive the 4 hours home every couple of weeks ( I would like to go home more but can’t afford it but need to get away from the constant drunk parties, blaring music and general inconsiderate nature of all the people around me). I have made no friends but am fortunate to know one person who I coincidentally attended primary school with, I want to quit and go home but I know people will think I’m a quitter, I don’t mind the workload but the pointless and never ending irrelevant essay writing is not teaching me anything ( I’m studying criminology) I mean how is writing an essay on geographical terms teaching me how to understand criminal behaviour ? I’ve already given up once but am so unhappy, I sit in my boxy uni room crying because I’m lonely and alone, I gave up a management position to go to uni again but am very disappointed with the course, am unsure what I will be able to use it for and seeing no other alternative that appeals…. I hate uni and I where my life is right now. Should I quit or will I regret it or should continue to fall further into debt so that my family and the people in my small town font think I’m a flake …?

  1880. Wow. Just found this. And i’m glad i did.
    I have just come home on the train today and turned up at home without telling anyone and my mum has gone BESERK at me, treating me like sh*t and calling me a waster. She had driven me back to uni yesterday after having been home for the xmas break.
    However, during the break, i fell in love, right before i had to go back. And since being back there, i haven’t eaten anything, or drank a hot drink, i havent even stepped foot in the communal kitchen, i just stayed in my room talking to my boyfriend on facebook and feeling very depressed. Today, i was supposed to go to a semester 2 induction and then have lectures all day but i laid in bed til bout 1pm. And then went to the station and got a train home. I’d already got it in my head that i wasnt gonna stay. I always run away.
    I’m on a science foundation year after having resat my alevels and still not getting into what i want. But im finding it so boring. Its just a-levels yet again but at uni. I have no friends on the course and everyone else has. I missed about 50% of lectures last term. I just can’t keep up with everything. I’m unhealthy there, i ‘go off the rails’. I go out of control. I got pregnant last term. I did drugs, i drank too much. I was on my own a lot of the time.I handed nothing in on time. All the medical people and services knew me coz i was always getting into some sort of problem.
    I struggle with some sort of mental health stuff which has yet to be properly diagnosed but it makes it so hard to cope, especially in this environment.
    Anyway…..
    So i don’t know what to do. I dont want to officially drop out coz i wll have to pay the fees.
    I’m thinking of somehow still learning from home on blackboard reading the lecture powerpoint slides…..and coz i got my exams postponed till after xmas coz of the pregnancy thing…….i dont have m exams til feb/march/april respectively. so could revise here and go back to take them. And could try and submit work online. But id fail the lab reports as i wont be in labs coz im not there. So ill be pretending im there………just to get it over with without having to pay the fees…………………..
    I applied through UCAS to different unis for this september so hopefully can get in there on my alevels and forget this foundation shi*t.

  1881. martin lex luther king kong

    missed my first exam today. woke up like 2 hours before, hadnt done any revision whatsoever, read over a few notes so I could at least get a few marks, then was just like fuck it and went back to sleep. got 3000 worder due tomorrow which i havent started and another exam the day after for which ive done nothing. no way im gonna get 40% in each module. I just applied to ucas for a different course/uni but submitted the application a day late. im such a mess. im literally too depressed to do anything though. maybe i should go get meds so i have physical proof of this. its like 1000 times harder to get them in the uk in the us though. ugh.
    yo sorry for gaz/jesse i got temporarily possessed by some demons disguised as typicial douchebags. ok laters ihateuniversity off to get proper cunted with the lads like. *opens some new tabs / sits on internet for rest of night*

  1882. i’m a first year, and i’m hating it. i used to like the course and be excited about going to lectures/practicals (because it’s a biology/chemistry based course), but now i’m losing the willpower to even get up every morning to go because they’re so dull. sitting in the same, warm room for two hours at a time is something i just can’t do without either falling asleep or getting irritable/restless.

    there are a few people on my course who i talk to and do practicals with, but i don’t really know if i can call them my friends. i’d obviously like them to be; we have a laugh etc but although they’ve done nothing to suggest it, i somehow don’t trust that the feeling could be mutual.

    the people i live with i got on really well with at first, in freshers when everybody had their friendly faces on. but as i got more and more work and as my money seriously drained away, i couldn’t invest in enough time with them as they as a standard go out drinking to socialise. i tried to balance it out but it resulted in me almost missing important assessed practicals and asking my parents for money, which is something i hate doing as they don’t have much of it themselves. it also generally made me feel like crap for the whole of the next day, and if i had nothing to do, i would sit there and do nothing instead of maybe spending some time actually studying.

    in november i noticed they would constantly be in and out of each others rooms, without me or without inviting me, having little meetings to watch xfactor etc which i despise. i noticed a lot of differences between us around about then. it never stopped me still trying to make the effort with them and i’ve never been anything other than nice to them.
    late november i get a knock on my door, two of them come in and tell me theyve ALREADY placed a deposit on a house for next year, without me. i had no idea they were even discussing housing arrangements, tbh i thought it was way way too early for that anyway.
    this obviously made my confidence plummet, i was so distraught and offended for so long until i eventually blamed myself for not making enough effort, but since then i’ve reasoned it out – its so essential for me to do well at this degree, i’m paying for it!

    ive isolated myself from them more and more and now we hardly speak. i’ve been way too scared to even go into the kitchen at some points because i just feel so left out and not part of anything, namely their little best friends gang. they’ve stopped making any effort with me too, understandably.

    now i spend most my time in my room, on my own. it’s horrible, i feel so fucking lonely, but i am still blaming myself, and i don’t even have the courage to go talk to a counsellor about it because i don’t want to openly admit in real life that i am actually a social reject. i know i’ve just done it on here, but it doesnt feel real, nobody here would ever find out who i am and so it just feels like it doesnt mean anything if i say it on here. waa. i just want to go home.

  1883. martin lex luther king kong

    people really are shitty arent they. making people feel welcome/not shunning other people based on arbituary judgements has always been like my top priority in social situations. like when theres someone talking at a group of people and no one pays attention i always make the effort to listen to what theyre saying. maybe im mentally ill. think im gonna drink all this cough syrup and hope i trip now. rappers do that dont they? do you think rick ross will like me if i tell him how much cough syrup i finna drink?

  1884. martin lex luther king kong

    and the fucking house thing. anon (fuckin lame name get a good name like mine), ive heard of so many incidents of that happening. seriously, everyone is doing this shit behind people’s backs. its like “yeah lol she was really upset… i mean she’s really nice but… just dont really wanna live with her you know?”.
    yeah ok so its
    -live with someone who is nice but isn’t in immediate circle along with all your friends
    vs
    -be banished to spend the rest of uni living with chinese people who are terrified of everything apart from computers and other chinese people + feel like a total reject as your self confidence and sanity slowly pours away
    shit ain’t right son

  1885. martin lex luther king kong

    what are some good ways to procrastinate i need new options
    recently ive
    -drank way too much cough syrup
    -made a tumblr featuring short stories about a talking dog. it has 1 follower
    -smoked a spliff filled entirely with 6 month+ old bong residue, felt like i was sucking satans cock
    -posted meditation exercises on ihateuniversity.com

  1886. Anon,

    I know exactly how you feel I got along with my flat mates in the 1st week or 2 and then they just seemed to start pushing me out, not sure why exactly I dont think I did anything wrong and I tried to become friends with them but before long they had developed there own cliche.

    The most irritating thing is that both the rest or my flat and people from next door spend every night in our kitchen creating an awful mess and playing on my PS3. Which wouldent be so bad but I havent played on my own console since November and they have consistently tried to blame the mess on me when I clear my pots and pans up right after ive cooked anything they act as if i should help them tidy up the whole lounge area every week when I spend almost all my time in my room to the stage where I couldnt be arsed dealing with them today and have only had a sadwich after my lecture and some biscuits so as I dont have to see or speak to them. If I did I think Id explode :P .

    Ontop of that my course is crap its 6 hours a week of mindnuming useless crap. They couldve fitted the whole degree course into a year instead they make you pay for 3 years worth of nothing. Its got to the stage now where Ive reapplied through Ucas for a different course at hopefully a different Uni.

    I never want to see or speak with my flat mates again especially how they avoided telling me for over a month that they were all looking at houses together and how for everyones birthday but mine weve had a cake and sang happy birthday. The worst thing about it all is my mums making me stay and wants me to come back to the same uni as its ‘prestigeous’ but as soon as I get any offers through Ill hopefully be able to convince her that I may as well leave now rather than at the end of the bloody year.

    I hate this Uni really wish I didnt but there you go ,I just know I need to head back up North to my sort of people not snotty rich Oxbridge rejects.

  1887. My name is joe and today I want to post a huge pecie of my mind ... Thank you

    So after reading all these posts we all hate uni .. I do too!!

    So high school I get offered 3 apprenticeships as reputable trades, but decide no uni is what I must do as I will earn lots of money and become well off and impress everyone that I go to uni!

    Well today went back to uni 3rd year 2nd semester to get the results of a pecie of course to find I failed… (great yipeeee) so after this I find that 4 of my uni friends who never attended any practical sessions or lectures have scored highly on the data I supplied them with? Where’s the justice !! I just don’t get it and the thing was they copied me!!! And I fail am just astonished … Lecturers always go on about the correlation between attending lectures and module success but u really don’t agree sometimes you just have to have the information infront of you and when it comes to marking of the lecturer doesn’t like your style or a few mistakes you have made they automatically fail you! (cheers wankers)

    So also today we had a careers presentation and the presenter asked the year “show of hands who thinks that they will end up with a decent job after graduation?” 3 people put their hand up!! 3!!

    This is so true uni just makes you skint, unhappy sometimes and stop you from developing as a person the skills in which you could obtain in a job environment …

    In this current climate I believe the way forward now is if you study something meaningful and current that is always in demand subjects like medicine, law, engineering (went a bit down hill), computer related and accountancy in some aspects!

    Subjects like music, history, psychology, media, business studies and more subjects are a bash in the dark they don’t hold any real promise of graduate job.

    An area which is hugely overrated is sport science (my degree) my god I don’t know why I choose it, think it was due to me being very immature and unrealistic like come on if someone sat me down and showed me the employment routes and success were I would have probably said next choice instead I got go to uni it will be the best thing ul earn big money .. NO, most people if they find a job work as personal trainers or gyms like wtf I never just did a 4 year degree to do this and earn like 17k a year after all that hard work and potenial earning lost!

    I just wish someone had pointed this out to me !

    Only reason I don’t drop out as always is the social side of things parents and people perceptions as me as a loser a nobody who dropped out of uni couldn’t hack it!!

    My further aspirations after my sport science degree was to go on and study physiotherapy but am thinking okay Msc in physiotherapy not bad at all but another 2 years after I graduate and that’s if I get in! There’s another 2 years wasted! also once I graduate with msc in physiotherapy il get a job no problem!?… WRONG

    Every job vacancy I look at is 100 miles away from me, is temporary and requires 2 or 3 years experience wtf how do I get real experience I I ant get a job oh wait il volunteer like a right fucking numpty and do shit little things in the hope I get a job which potentially 50 other more experienced people are going for!

    The worlds fucked at the moment guys … Everywheres going into liquidation, job losses left right and centre it’s just no good for our generation and I feel sorry for my kids ( if I get a bird first) as they will most probably have a dad that has a shit job … I love my dad but his job isn’t the best, who doesn’t want a dad that earns decent money can buy them things give them hope for a good future! I know what it’s like to be the kid at school who doesn’t get everything that everyone else has! (my mum and dad work their socks off btw) its just not the best I don’t want that for my kids and I know critics will go and say do something about it but how am I meant to when the opportunities are not available … Places you find graduates working now are in Tesco Asda etc it’s just laughable no one can get a job and it’s only going to get worse … I read a figure 1 in 4 unemployed in Spain fuck me man that’s a horrible figure and as our shity fucking government cuts everything where are the jobs except in debt collection haha! (true tho admit it!!) and all the polish will probably take them as they are tanks haha!

    I dony know how this post has gone the way it has and am sorry if I bored you but it’s a pecie of my mind for u

    If I had my time back can’t believe am saying this at 20 but ad probably choose a different route in my life maybe an electrican or working my way up in a bank or something … Both respectable jobs that give u skills and money while you train and develop just wish people were given the opportunities and things they deserve but as everyone knows karmas a cunt and only works in te favour of the bad trust me!!

    I hope that uni doesn’t get that bad for someone that they are continplating taking their life I would rather leave uni and face the social disapproval than that come on you reading this of you have those thoughts think to yourself I can do this I am a smart person and things can only get better and once your there you will be satisfied! as u know what it’s like to be at the bottom of a depressive chain of emotions

    As I said don’t know how this post went from hating uni to me giving out advice on life lol trust me if u knew me you’d seriously be like joe he never wrote this haha!

    And think everything has a reason why u at uni to meet that person who will change your life or go in a direction which pushes u into the path of that person! ( there we go I’ve did it again giving advice haha)

    Oh yeah I hope someone does reply to my post and tells me am a mongo idiot or something it will be good to know you have read it!

    Well hope all is bearable and good luck with your studies and don’t be afraid to change something if you feel it isn’t right for you

    Joe

  1888. 1styearstudent

    Hey joe! Loved your post. It’s sometimes good to let it all out even if it’s to a forum full of complete strangers! LOL

    I always come back here whenever i’m depressed and feel like I hate university but posts like yours make me feel like i’m not alone and I can do it if I try hard enough

    Best of luck to you all with uni

  1889. My first semester at uni was horrible. Truly truly awful.
    For the first month I tried my best to socialise – I went out and got drunk every night and hung around with people who I could tell were completely different to me – being different has NEVER been a problem for me before… I’ve always been quiet, that’s just how I am, but I’ve ALWAYS had a great group of friends and even though high school had it’s fair share of bitches, they were easy to avoid. In university though it seems that everyone is a thousand times more judgemental and un-accepting (that was a shock – everyone always told me that you find like-minded people in uni!!!)! It seems like my flatmates have never encountered a quiet person before and made me feel like a freak!
    Also, the drinking scene just isn’t for me, I still go out with my friends from home who drink & I have a lot of fun but when I tried it with uni people it was shit!!! I’ve now given up alcohol (3 months sober so far) but my flatmates don’t respect my decision at all and make me feel even more inferior!!!!
    And I hate my course. It is not what I expected at all!! I know I’m at a great university and my lecturers are great but I’m just not enjoying my course and wish I’d never done it!!!
    There’s other issues going on with me which I’m hopefully going to sort out this semester but there’s no one in uni I can talk to about the shit in my life! argghhh I don’t know. I could carry on saying so much but it would go on tooooo long!

    I’m going back tomorrow after a month off!! Dreading it!
    The thought of seminars makes me feel sick!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I wish I didn’t have to go back but I really don’t have any other choice!!!!

  1890. oh and also, I HATE IT when I hear people saying things like “do what makes you happy” “don’t put up with something that isn’t good for you” “it’s your life, you can do anything you want”…
    um NO, if that were the case I wouldn’t be stuck somewhere that has caused my depression to be the worst I’ve ever experienced!!!
    If it was so easy to do what makes me happy I would be doing it not suffering in university!!!

  1891. I Graduated recently, now have completely and utterly useless degree and I regret every nanosecond I wasted in school.
    Before school I was poor and unemployed, now I’m in massive debt from student loans, stressed out, depressed AND unemployed.
    Going to school was the worst mistake of my life.

  1892. martin lex luther king kong

    yo my ihateuniversity niggas, hit up the student room forum. lotta places to vent there.

  1893. I am in yr 3 of a 4 yr master degree.

    The only way I can be happy at University is to avoid anything that has to do with the campus and the Uni people when I don’t need to be there. I am only a few years older then the average age on my course, but I find it near impossible to click with anyone. Plus, its an international institute, and I seem to be the token white English person. Everyone else is from the EU and they are scared shitless of anyone who is not from their home country and they all speak their own language.Talk about shunned!

    Rather then be miserable and force myself to get smashed/waste money drinking, I just go to class, chat with the more decent people, then go home to my non-university household to do my work. If I had to live with other students I would have killed them by now!

    Having a home full of people who have nothing to do with University is THE BEST. Uni life and home life are two totally different things, and that is what kept me sane through all this. I am so damn glad I did not move to a different county to do this course! Sure my course is like 40 hrs a week and mega stressy, so you got to go to Uni with the mindset that it’s WORK NOT PLAY. Guys, just do the most local Uni you possibly can. You save thousands and you’re not at the mercy of the twattish kids on campus. I think Uni life retards most of the students. They live off loans and are in this institutionalized bubble world, not the real world. The lecturers are the same. Why does Uni make people lose sight of reality? In the real world hard work does not equal success, and the average Joe on the street doesnt give a shit how much chemistry you know. It’s all stiff competition, and work for free to gain ‘experience.’ Gee, that really teaches you to value yourself! Jump hoops, compete, compete, compete, work like crazy, get barely a better payoff then the person who dissed through the year. What is the point?

    I constantly study hard, but grades are real hit and miss. The bias in marking is ridiculous, and there seems to be no gold standard. You’re at the mercy of the individual lecturer, who just does whatever the hell he wants. Don’t like your hand writing? You FAIL. Exams are 50% work, 50% luck and designed in such a way that your at a disadvantage to start, even if you know the answer to every question. Marking is also 50% luck depending on the marker paying attention, liking your ‘style’ and being in a good mood. An idiot student can claw a passing mark just with exam technique alone. What kind of shit is this?

    Degrees mean nothing beyond being an accessory to a slightly better job then if you’d gone straight into work (if you’re lucky). I need this degree to do the job I want, but honestly if it weren’t a legal requirement, I wouldn’t bother. Uni’s need to be shaken up, the institutionalised teaching practice should be dissolved, and the excessive duration of the courses cut in half. Unis are just money spinners, but every year hundreds of thousands give into the ‘glamour,’ only to be crushed, poor and dissapointed. Univeristies must surey be the worst, most inflexible, maladaptive invention by man ever. This is not how the next generation should be taught.

  1894. Hi Alice,

    I agree to mostly what you say. I am a student at an international institute in the UK. I was hoping to make friends with people of different nationalities and it is still a hope. I did my undergrad in my home country, hating it like my fellow friends and thinking that university life is far better abroad. After coming here, i guess universities suck everywhere.

  1895. I. HATE. UNIVERSITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I hate going, I hate the lectures, the assignments, the workload, the exams, tests, I hate the people, I hate hate hate UNIVERSITY LIFE.

    I HATE UNIVERSITY LIFE!

    UGHHHHHHHHHmkzdsjbnzfkjldfzhbfjzdnhbm.dfkhldxjshilzh

    DIEDIEDIE. OR KILL ME NOW!

  1896. The Angry Bird

    Wow, Alice, you just spoke my mind. I shall now be in peace from now on! ^_^

  1897. I loved philosophy by my soul before entering university.
    I was forced to entering a goddamn petroleum university because it was the best choice in my city by my rate.
    and now …… I destroyed my life.
    I should take 6 to 7 lessons including math and chemistry to satisfy my social lords. just because I have fellowship.
    I hate everything.
    No friend no happiness no goddamn favorite thing and surprise :
    I LIVE IN IRAN.

    no hope ……….

  1898. Such a waste of money. Avoid computing. They teach nothing useful to the workplace.

  1899. I hated school; I had to work like a bitch there and it sucked out my soul. My dad said ”get into a good university, you’ll wake up late, make loads of friends… Sonny boy, you’ll be laughing”.

    I’m not fucking laughing…

    *Awkward pause*

    Nope, still not laughing.

    It’s bullshit, here’s my standard day; wake up at 0630 leave the house at 0730, take the bus and the tube for an hr and a half (crushed up with all the other miserable fuckfaces who hate their average day as well, and boy do they make it known), sit down by myself coz all the others fucking live on site and fuck eachother in the ass all day, listen for 2 solid hours (every lecture) to some self righteous cunt read powerpoint slides on fucking fluid flow and drag coeffiecients of spheres.

    Do you give a flying fuck about drag coefficients of spheres?
    I don’t :)
    Back to my day.

    Next I try to learn what I couldn’t actually understand in the last 2 hours, before I spend another 2 hours getting assfucked. I go home (with the unecessarily miserable city works and Asian ladies who both look at me like shit) and do some studying (fucking YEAH! Now you’re livin’ it up my son… gwaaaan!).

    My dad returns and you know what he asks me?
    You know what he muthafuckin’ asks me?
    ”How was your day?”

    At this point pissed doesn’t even begin to cover it…

    So, I have to go to this place I hate for the next 4 years to stand a chance of getting a job means the government can’t rape my sore ass with every new decision it decides to make. I spend all my time travelling to lectures I have to go to, even though I could learn more sleeping, or taking a shit.
    Life is goooooooood.

  1900. I got to say, I agree with everyone here!
    one thing I hate the most? the fact that NO teacher wants to help even if you beg/scream or just effing lose it in front of them! it’s so annoying. Yes I enjoy my course but if this is what being a uni lecturer is about – getting paid to do jack shit – then I might become one. Honestly, they have it freakin’ easy! Ive learnt more from the entire internet than I have in the past three months of uni. I live at home and travel twenty mins to uni – my close friend has basically ditched my for his boyfriend who lives at uni so I’m just like ‘wtf?’ Jeez

  1901. I SHOULD be at my VERY LAST semester in university. BUT, after transferring I find myself having to do a completely different major, and having to do 2 more years MINIMUM to get my degree. THIS. IS. BOLLOCKS!!!!!

    The whole system is so messed up! We can’t just ignore this – MOST unis are just BUSINESSES. They just want to keep you there as long as possible so you keep paying.

    After almost 4 years, and now looking to do an extra 2, All I can say is, university has consumed my life. It has consumed my soul, my character. Whatever, some people can go through uni, and others can’t. I fucking can’t, because I’m not a fucking sheep. Sorry, some people can be told to work a certain way and to think a certain way – I can’t. I’d rather think for myself. It just PISSED ME OFF that at the end of last semester my professor showed us a website of what she’s proud of and hopes we can achieve… a fucking tumblr blog site with photos all over it that weren’t even original, just reposted. I HAVE ONE ANYWAY! ITS NOT HARD TO DO.

    Fucking hell. Uni is a pile of bullshit. I don’t give a fuck anymore. I’m not going into classes this semester, and doing what I feel is right. So what, I’ll fail. If my parents get mad, sod it. I don’t give a shit anymore. At least I’ll know I tried MY way.

  1902. Take it from me, if you’re not enjoying it, drop out, it probably won’t get better. Everyone kept telling me it would “change, it’s gonna change, it’s like this everywhere for the first year”. But it never changed. Even when transferring, it was only worse.

    Almost 4 years under my belt people. Feel as though I haven’t achieved ONE thing I am proud of in all those years. During A-Levels, I felt so creative, full of energy and talent. Now, I’m just empty. Dulled out for almost 4 years. Now facing an extended 2 more years.

    Get out while you can, if you’re not enjoying it. Or face having a mid-life crisis, looking back on the wasted years.

  1903. I`m epileptic.
    epilepsy didn`t kill anyone but in my first final exam I had an goddamn attack after 6 years and after I reach to exam I told the doctor there I can`t take that exam.
    and that man believes I`m lying and failed me.
    what I do to my UNIZERTITY is sex slavery not anything more.
    I hate this life – from top to the bottom.

  1904. Woah I thought University life is going to be awesome why all the hate? I just finish high school and looking foward to get into Uni . Seriously people why hate University, somebody please anwser me thx.

  1905. Thank the higher powers for this website, I love you people.

    I’m in my first year at university, been here about 4 months now and life is incredibly lonely. I spend day after day in this boxy room. My flatmates are inconsiderate snobs, funded by their rich parents, who party into the early hours of the morning most nights and keep me awake.

    I’m nice and friendly to people on my course but seriously? I don’t see anyone even worth being friends with. And anyway no-one seems interested in being friends anyway. They’re so caught up in their own little tatseless plans, whether it be partying, or drinking or trying to get ahead of everyone else by whatever means.

    On my first week the most common topics of conversation were sex, drugs, parties, drinking, smoking etc. And not just talking about them, they were doing them!

    I was so shocked, I felt so naive and innocent being thrown in with this bunch. I looked around at their faces and I felt utterly miserable.

    Everyday I make my way around campus coughing or holding my breath because every 10 meters there’s an idiot smoking. I feel like slapping them!!!!!! How can you ruin your youth and health by putting that crap down your lungs????

    I cannot accept that to have friends at uni I have to be sucked into this world of drinking and partying. Surely that isnt what life’s about?

    I miss my friends back at home, I miss my parents, even my annoying brother, I miss the fridge full of food and the TV with all my favourite shows.

    Now I spend everyday alone in my room, using the internet as an escape to distract myself from this miserable existence.

    When I was 17 I was full of hope for the future. I felt smart and happy and confident that I was gonna achieve my dreams. I felt like I was gonna be someone influential who would change the world!

    Fast forward 2 years, I’m now 19 and I feel I’m a mere shell of that awesome person I used to be.

    I was so depressed today, so desperate for it all to stop. I just wanted out! But after reading all your messages on here, I’ve taken some comfort that I’m not the only one having problems. I need to be strong, I’ll stick at it and see out this year. If at the end I’m still miserable, guess I’ll go back home. My parents will be disappointed, but I have to be brave and face them.

    Wonder what you have to do to be happy in life?

  1906. Just an add on I remembered.

    I’m SOOOOOOO glad funds for this bullshit production called university are coming from the government (for now) and not my parents. If I decide to quit it won’t be their money I wasted thank god. So long as the debt is on my own shoulders, I can handle quitting.

  1907. I came to this site on Monday and spent about an hour on here reading comments.
    I went back to lamoversity today and had this massive jackass grin on my face all day, knowing that I’m not the only one.
    I love you guys…

  1908. I’m so fucking sick of how much information is packed into every single lecture. It’s information overload and it’s not proper learning. I don’t retain any knowledge after I complete a course. They should teach less so that we can remember more. I don’t understand why profs kill us with so much memory work for exams. It’s useless in the long run and it’s not proper learning being forced to memorize so many nitty gritty details that won’t be retained.

  1909. Post 92 University’s in Scotland are a joke. I’m currently doing a MSc in business and the course is abysmal. After completing my BA(hons) and thinking what to do, I decided the enhance my career goals by doing a masters.

    The problem is the classes are a joke, I learned more intelligent and relevant stuff in my first year as an undergraduate than now. I feel I’m unlearning things the classes are that simplistic. The reason for this, international students. The university treats them like cash cows as they have the pay more and as long as the check clears, they’re in the course even thought they lack the education or language ability. During one seminar the tutor was talking to a student who it turned out didn’t speak ANY English.

    But I wouldn’t mind so much except most of the course is group work. This is so they can justify these idiots passing. I’m currently in a group that counts for 80% of module with a guy that cannot read English, has bare minimum speaking ability and I have to do the work of three people just to get a pass. In individual coursework and exams I get distinction grades but sadly that dream is getting pissed away by group work. They divide up the British people in to one or two per group to give it a chance.

    DON’T DO A MASTER, IT’S PUTTING ME IN AN EARLY GRAVE!

  1910. I’m a mature student (31) in my last year (thank fuck for that!) have not enjoyed the experience, I go to a very middle class Uni (fucking hate the word Uni as well) mostly full of pretentious posh cunts and I actually find most students fucking irritating! And them fucking lecturers are just a bunch of uninteresting boring autistics! When will they realize that actually not everyone is that fucking interested in what you’ve got to say, I’m just there for the piece of paper that says I have a degree on it and to get the fuck off out of there!

    Actually from my time spent at Uni (Arggggh said it again) I’ve realized I’m actually quite normal and sane but at the same time more of an individual than any of these twats could hope to, or will ever be.

    Stick with it guys don’t let the fuckers get you down just do the best you can to cope with it and before you know it, it will be all over.

  1911. Wow, the original post was way back in 2004, now in 2012, I feel compelled to add to this post. Yep, education is very hard and the light at the end of the tunnel is dim and a long way away. I tried education to be free from the monotony of life and to make new friends. I made no friends and the monotony is still there. I see people much happier working in factories and I ask myself how good it would be to try that but that is not me. I actually like learning and passing on that learning but the obstacles in education are alwys much higher than anywhere else. With so much emphasis upon learning and gaining awards, that light will always be dull until one day, out you step into a bright, burning light of enlightenment and success. What a fucking crock of shit!

  1912. Computing Grad

    I am absolutely astonished how useless a degree is at getting any job – even a non graduate job. I would have had a better chance of getting a job had I work experience instead of a degree. In addition, they don’t teach you anything useful to an employer.

    British universities are a waste of money and a waste of time.

  1913. Im currently at university in Glasgow, Scotland UK and I have to say I’m loosing faith in it.

    I went back to University as I wanted a change of career, I was sick of being fucked around in offices. First year was good but second year was a disaster. I suffer from depression and found that the University really didn’t give me much support with regards to my condition after a bad episode I had of it. My marks were fucked up and I had to repat modules I failed but I wasn’t told this until 4 fucking week into the new term!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I’m resitting the said modules in question and I want to get this over and done with. I love studying History, Politics and Social Sciences but I’m really unsure as to what I will do when I graduate. Fucking really sick of the uncertainty of it all and dealing with clones who because they are at university act and dress and even SPEAK the same way. I also fucking hate all the formal crap with it such as the graduation ceremony and ball. Fuck that! give me my fucking certificate that I’ve studied for. I hate being in debt as well and dealing with smart arse cunts who say “Well get a part time Job then”
    Easier said than done you tool and many people I know who are working part time seem to be messed around constantly.

    On the upside I have met people who are really great and the topics I study are really interesting. But I hate the bullshit that goes along with it. I want to get my degree and actually use it to do something.

  1914. AHHHH!

    Ok, I’m gonna start my “why I hate university” rant. Even now, as a small afterthought, the energy I’m even using to write this could be for my exam I have not yet studied a single second yet for which is tomorrow at 9:30 tomorrow morning. It’s currently 11:59 at night.

    :(

    Why does life have to be so hard?

    Is it my laziness? My procrastination? The motivation I no longer have?

    I just moved to the city recently during the Fall, it’s now the Winter semester, and I’m starting to think university is not for me.

    I mean, I don’t really need it. Okay, that’s a lie. I’m in a win-lose situation about the university dilemma (WIN, no studying, no stress, no failures, care free, sleep in as long as you want, find fun job. Then LOSE, have your parents disappointed in you, the one who was supposedly always the high achiever, live at home, and on those boring days in your life you wish you actually went to university, believe it or not).

    As I said, I’m torn here.

    I just want to succeed, really badly. But I can’t seem to.

    It’s not like I can just snap my fingers, or wake up and have it given to me.

    It sucks.

    Plus, I basically have no family with me all the time, they live out of town. I rent a room with some people I found on a website. I have no license, so I can’t drive.

    Yeah.

    Well, I’m gonna attempt to study some Japanese. Maybe I’ll post again tomorrow just to see what actually would happen (my mark).

    Alright then, THANK YOU WORLD FOR LISTENING TO MY RANT!!!! MAN, STRESS RELIEVER!!!

  1915. I’ve only just found this site, and can’t believe it – isn’t it crazy that there are so many people who aren’t enjoying uni life, yet everything you see in reality is how great it is?! But anyway, I’m the same as many of you. The only way I got through sixth form was thinking of escaping to university, where I’d study what I loved, find great friends and have all the fun I’d never had before.
    But now after the end of my first term, I’m feeling extremely underwhelmed. I tried really hard in the first weeks of term, went out loads and met loads of people but after that they all faded away and made their own friends. I can count 1 person here as a friend, and every night I hear everyone walking past my window having a laugh and wish I had the same. I now feel permanently apathetic and spend all the time when not in lectures just sat in my room.
    I don’t miss home, and I don’t want to drop out, I just wish things were different. Why is it always me?
    My course isn’t too bad – the lectures are interesting and I think I’m doing okay, but it really doesn’t seem worth the price. I have 9 contact hours a week, and it often seems disorganised. What’s the point in me working like this for 3 years with no promise of a job at the end?

  1916. malcolm x to the zena warrior princess leia

    i think this site is so popular cos you pretty much have to pretend that you like university life. hating it means you fail as a person. i mean if you hate high school, thats cool, high school has bullies and everyones going through changes and you have to sit in class all day but everyone finds themselves in university! everyone! just be yourself! oh man, you hate university? you fucking loser man, what the fuck. uni doesnt have people that put you down all the time and make you feel bad. you fuckin useless piece of low-life worthless cocksucking shit, man. go kill yourself. anyway im off now, got 2 party with my m8s bye.

  1917. So many posts on this site, there must be certainly something wrong with the university system. I realized how bad it was once I tried to start conversation with a guy I like, and it was all awkward and didn’t much one thing about the nature of men. Something so basic and natural as the knowledge of getting to know someone, starting a relationship, a job or a family escapes what universities teach as “knowledge” I remembered ordering book online with the little money left on my bank account to learn how to speak to a guy because I was lost and without a friend in this big place. I am a languages major but don’t see myself using this degree at all. I would love to engage in something more spiritual which many schools of course don’t offer. I will skip one of classes tomorrow and don’t feel any regret.

  1918. University is a life ruining organization!!

    I always didn’t want to go to university because I thought the idea of it was stupid and I didn’t have to go to university to make something of myself!! But after working for 1 and a half years in retail after high school I started to feel hopeless and decided to try it out. WORST DECISION EVER.

    I felt even more hopeless in university which I didn’t think was possible. It is so depressing. I felt like I just wanted to stay in my bed all day long and cry. I love learning new things and I did enjoy my classes but the whole experience was just depressing. I ended up eating horrible food because of my mandatory meal plan and the school didn’t offer very healthy foods.

    I didn’t meet very many new people (I was 19 at the time and everyone else was 17) and I felt like I didn’t have anything in common with anyone. I ended up switching residences a few times hoping that that might help me but it just added to my debt (about 1000 dollars with cancellation fees and all).

    I only stayed for about a month then I dropped out. I ended up running into a bunch of financial difficulties so it couldn’t be avoided. In that whole month I felt like I went through so much unnecessary stress all because I thought university would be a positive experience (like so many people told me in the past).

    The worst part is that I feel like I won’t be able to accomplish anything now that I’m out of university. I just wish it wasn’t all so confusing.

    SORRY FOR THE RANT. All of these posts made me feel so much better about my decision when I was struggling with whether or not to stay! I wish you all the best of luck whatever your situation is!!

  1919. So today we have been told that for our short films, we choose our own groups, and my heart sank. Being wthout a ‘group’ of friends on my course, those words instantly mean ‘you’re going to have a shit time’.

    I already know what the groups will now be. It will be the dude who leeches off of me, and the two asian girls (I have nothing against them, but they stick to themselves, are obviously not interested in anyone else and barely speak english, and they will be the only two left.)

    It’s annoying because we were told weeks ago that we’d be put into groups, and I was really looking foward to meeting some interesting, funny people or eat least some people i connect with, so, you know, I have someone to hang out with. Due credit to loners – since becoming one at the start of uni, it takes incredible mental strength just to keep yourself down to earth and happy, when you havn’t spoken to anyone for a day, which becomes a week, and so on, apart from an occasional ‘hello’ or whatever. It’s soul destroying. Then ofcourse, if you get frustrated, bitter, depressed, it becomes even harder to make friends, even if you’re trying to think positively. It’s like someone treading on you with a giant boot.

    Don’t think I havn’t tried. I’ve walked upto groups and tried to join in on the walk back to campus, I’ve attempted to talk to people I never thought I would. I’ve even invited them to hang out and play pool at the local bar. Stuff I never though I’d do, but it’s pointless because they know it’s forced, but what’s the alternative – never say anything.

    The thing that makes it much worse is when you walk past other accomodation and you see groups of people laughing and doing what students do, and then you get to your place and sit in silence, and the only thing that seperates you from them was some guy choosing who lives where at the start of the year – it’s complete luck.

    Thank you uni, for limiting my oppertunities of having any friends on my course. As it was announced, the people who are already mates anyway were already looking at each other. I know this is petty really but there are no rules here and I have no other way to vent at the moment short of hitting something. Fuck sakes!

  1920. Wow, everything on here is so depressing but it’s weirdly heartening to know I’m not alone in my hate for uni.

    I believed my calling was in art but fucking hated the foundation art degree I did. So I finished that and quickly chose to do English, then for some goddamn stupid reason, switched to law instead at a uni that required B’s because it was the same city my boyfriend is in, rather than the better one about 100 miles away. I got A’s at A-level. Bad choice from the off.
    That and now I am now realising he isn’t exactly my soul mate. Education > relationship always people.

    Now come to the realization that not only do I HATE law with a passion but I hate this entire university. It’s like school but without the enjoyment, the camaraderie, the teaching…It is a soulless experience. Were I still in my first year I would switch to an English degree to at least make it more bearable but I’m half way through my second year, my only option is to keep going or drop out and waste the past year and a half. I have no drive, I have no enthusiasm for law.

    Live and learn I guess…

  1921. I’ve never been so bored and depressed in my life, and I’m only in my second term of my first year, at university in the UK. There is literally nothing to do, I get exercise every day but for the rest of it I waste away my time on the internet. It is such a mind numbing, stifling and soul destroying experience, probably making university more unbearable now than it was in Freshers’ Week despite the overwhelming homesickness at the time (which has by no means abated).

    I obviously came here expecting too much. My parents pay £6000 a year for me to have ~8 hours contact hours and be given a reading list; what a waste of their money. Half the lecturers are uninspiring, and several lectures are two hours long, when you really do begin to lose concentration. I really enjoyed reading philosophy before I came to university, but I’m rapidly losing interest in it, and I hardly do any reading or work between lectures, and sometimes miss assignments. It’s ironic that with so much time, I do so little but having independent learning shoved down your throat coupled with so few contact does not really induce me to improve. This is in itself depressing, given that I worked hard to get here and because I am generally someone who likes to be doing things. It would not surprise me if I failed this year’s exams, and I doubt I’d even care.

    The people here are so dull and fake-another letdown. They get drunk every night (something that I can understand given the university experience but don’t participate in) because it is the only way they seem to be able to socialise; they seem so shallow and uninteresting most of the time anyway. Even the societies I have joined-supposed forums of mutual interest-don’t bring out anybody interesting or someone who is friendly. I only have a few ‘friends’ here, but they never ask me out (who would want to spend time with somebody who doesn’t drink?) and most people are unfriendly. My flatmates are lazy, messy and boring, like a lot of students here, which makes me wonder how they got here.

    I really do spend a lot of time thinking about my future, and a lot of time worrying about it. University was this thing which was drilled into us all through school which was necessary to get a good job, yet I see people who left my old school and nailed down jobs with great starting salaries. With something as non-specific and non-vocational as a philosophy degree, nothing is certain after university. But I feel trapped between this soul-destroying experience and dropping out a getting a job with a potential dead end further along the career street. I’ve always wanted to do something creative which wouldn’t need qualifications, but qualifications are good to fall back on if you don’t cut it in creative industries. But the question is whether a university level qualification is necessary for good jobs. Even if they are, you don’t have to attend university; you can do degrees online.

    So what is stopping me from dropping out? I am strong willed and would not be worried about what others think of me. Moreover, my parents are very supportive and would help me whatever I chose. But I’m over half way through this year and it would be a potential waste of money and time to drop out now. I want to finish my exams and get my credits before making the decision. I am leaning towards deferring my second year so I have university to fall back on if I don’t attend next year.

    If you read this thanks for taking your time, I needed somewhere to vent.

  1922. fuck university, OMG

  1923. computer programming is so fucked up, some people say it’s easy, easy my ass!!!

  1924. fuck uni
    fuck lectures fuckkkkkkkk
    no wonder why people commit suicide.
    Cause i spend so much studying my girl ended up fucking another guy. fuck it all
    i jus feel like i cant go on at all
    but how can i get money
    i aint even shit!!!!!

  1925. University is a money making scam. They don’t teach you anything useful. They’ll try to keep you as long as possible to pay the fees, extension fees, accomodation costs etc while giving poor quality teaching, questionable research, treat you badly and fine you for everything. And if you are a foreign student, you are just a cash cow to them.

  1926. My problem with University is that ALL I end up doing is studying. I am stressed all the time and there is literally never a moment when my homework isn’t in the back of my mind. In fact, I feel like I spend hours JUST PLANNING how to get my homework done.

    This can’t be normal. A university should focus on helping you learn, not making you cram all the material into your brain and regurgitate it on an exam.

    More importantly though, I hate my major. It is my parents choosing, not mine. I have ALWAYS made it clear to my family that I want to study political science. I have shown an interest in politics even since grade school, however since “political science can’t get you a job” I am stuck with accounting. I am attending a private university and simply would not be able to pay without my parents help.

  1927. Alice that is spot on!

    I hate the marking bias, hate the dickheads that make up 85% of the student base, hate the length of courses, the useless knowledge, hoop jumping, and worst of all that we are PAYING for it.

    The word University itself has lost its original meaning, its meant to be about learning and instead its about drinking, sex and doing essays at the very last minute and getting pissy about it.

    AAAAAGH! The only thing that has kept me sane is my girlfriend, otherwise the people here are just vacuous, superficial, STUPID, and often from private schools (though you aren’t all bad!) and are completely deluded about life and the real world. Seriously my course is hard to get into and some of the people here are SO FUCKING DUMB! It makes me furious, these dumb fucks get so much money thrown at them by their parents that they are guaranteed to get a University place – some gold from someone with multiple As at A level – “Erm, like why do you write the date on your lectures? I don’t get it” I mean WHAT THE FUUUCK kind of question is that!!!!!?

    Aaaah, thats better.

  1928. I’m 34 and have finished a vocational degree related to property and construction. I left with First class honours, wow you might think, the world is my oyster, is it FUCK! The reason I went beck to get the qualification was because I was stuck in a job calling people to pay their debts. The pay was shit and I was fed up with being screamed at by people who couldn’t pay. Okay, let’s try and get a career I thought. I should have realised that at 34 you are over the hill and practically dead according to most of the people I have been interviewed by. I thought the lecturers at University were pretentious, but that was nothing compared to the fuckers that work in Real Estate, they are just glorified fucking estate agents who think what they do is so important and skilful. Nearly four years since giving up full time work to try and better myself, I’m fucked….can’t afford my car, barley afford my mortgage, overdrawn at the bank and after all my hard work, no one thinks I’m capable of doing a what I think would be a piss easy job. What a waste of time, money and a massive part of my life going to University really was. My advice? Don’t bother, and save some money for a deposit for a house

  1929. i hate university because everytime i go to class i sit alone, i have no friends i have no-one to talk to.. it’s so character destroying for me.. usually i’m talkative and bubbly.. but these girls on my course, i don’t know..
    my flatmates also on my course, she doesn’t speak a word to me, what an actual bitch. i want to punch her in the face ffs. i wish she’d move out. i wish i had friends on my course. i feel like since coming to uni i’ve met loads of new people, but only have a handful of friends. i miss my old friends. im scared this will get worse.

    fuck uni.

  1930. I’m so glad that I stumbled across this website. We’re not alone; we should rejoice in that!

    University is marketed as some sort of never-ending party in the UK. Our expectations are sky-high, and most of us arrive there with a passion for our subject and hopes for new friends, new experiences, and a new version of ourselves.
    Which isn’t the reality.

    All I can suggest for people is to focus ALL of your energy into doing what you love. If you love English, write. Write and read constantly. If you like sports, spend an hour a day doing that. Join a society. Contribute to something or yourself, or you’ll just feel empty and depressed.
    I spent my first term feeling wholeheartedly hopeless. I wasn’t able to sleep until 5 or 6 in the morning, I cried all the time, and I just felt completely let down.

    I had some issues with my flatmates in the first term. They would stalk me on twitter and then talk about me behind my back. They’d scrutinise me in any way they could. One of them told me about it.
    Now, at home, this wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. I would laugh at them for being so pathetic, go out with my friends, and move on from it. But here it felt as if their opinion really mattered; this was my first attempt at making it without my friends or family back home and I felt as if I’d massively fucked up. I thought ‘I must be fucking weird if people write me off immediately like that’.
    Wrong. I’m not weird. People our age have low self-esteem and will pick at ANYTHING to get some sort of sense of superiority.
    Teach yourself to react differently to shit friends, shit lecturers, shit circumstances. Don’t feel as if they’re a personal attack on you as a person. Be mindful of who you are and don’t let anyone take that away or try to diminish it. It’s precious.

    I blocked my twitter, stopped giving them ammunition to talk about me, and maintained a civil but largely uninvolved relationship with them. I feel so much better for it. I only have one or two good friends here, but that’s enough. Just take things as they come and appreciate the people who make an effort with you.

    Only you can change things. You can’t rely on anyone else to pick you up. So I started exercising a lot. About 4 times a week. I started writing for the student newspaper, and made baby-steps with talking to new people. I still haven’t met many people that I really click with, and I don’t socialise nearly as much as I normally do back home. I’ve only had one night out in 4 weeks. But I’m happy. I’m focusing on the future; I’ve applied to teach in Germany this summer and I’m enjoying my course, which is the most important thing. I learn first aid on thursdays.
    These tiny, tiny changes really do help.

    If you don’t feel as if you have anyone, then just start talking to someone a bit more on your course. Sit next to someone different in a lecture, ask to borrow a pen. It sounds ridiculous I know! But you HAVE to be pro-active when you’re unhappy. I say this from experience, I promise you.

    My flatmates are still giving me a hard time; I can’t do anything out of the ordinary without them picking at it. Someone had accidentally been using my milk so I left a polite notice asking if people could please check which milk they were using beforehand. Someone wrote ‘NO’ on my note, and then I heard the girls bitching about it in the corridor, saying how pathetic I was being.

    It’s difficult to ‘rise above’ stuff like this, but you have to. Come on here and rant about it, and then let it pass. That’s what I intend to do. People can only fuck you up if you let them.

    Hope everything gets better for you guys.
    (I expect I’ll probably be back here again to rant again soon)

  1931. @Bry,

    I totally understand where you’re coming from with your status. I had the same problems with my flatmates when I lived in university in my first year. The whole note thing, the exact thing happened with me. It even went as far as the dicks drawing everyone on the whiteboard in the kitchen with me with a cock on my head… really funny not but at the time I was kinda upset. Photographed it and reported it to the accom and uni.

    anyways, 2 years on… i have 3 months left. Dissertation deadline coming up soon and friends showing their true bitchy colours. University isn’t all it’s made out to be, I’m afraid.

    Stick in there mate, you will get through it. Post your email if you ever want to chat or contact me. Things do and things will get better.
    This uni year is almost over now anyway!!

    Good luck with everything.

  1932. malcolm x to the xena warrior princess leia

    yo is your boy malcolm x to the xena warrior princess leia, formerly known as martin lex luther king kong u feel me.
    basically i hate university less now cos i recently moved flats from my depressing other one, instantly formed a connection with most of the people i live with and am now having a great time socially. buuut i was so depressed the first semester (and i do suffer from it medically) due to hating everything about it that i couldnt even bring myself to work at all, i would sleep as much as possible so i would have less waking hours, didnt even turn up to exams with the thought that id drop out so it didnt matter. but i didnt expect to move. so now i wouldnt mind staying but i put in so little work that i might get kicked out.

    heres a clip which proves im self aware enough to know that im pathetic and deserve no sympathy!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzxcjg7YZSs

  1933. I’m a third year, my last year on a Bsc course, its a long story but basically when i was 18 i was caught robbing a shop, sounds bullshit i know, but i worked there and i got stupid, the woman who owned it said you have two choices, if you go and make something of yourself i will not prosecute you, but if your going nowhere i will have to make this a big thing, obviously at the time i thought “hey 3 years at university, thats easy!” dumbass thought. Now i’ve wasted 3 years of my life on a degree i don’t care about, im writing my dissertation and its pretty awful, i know i sound like a dumbass for getting myself into this situation but you should meet the people on my course, they’re all public schoolboys and daddy’s girls.

    To state the obvious, im not happy with university, theres something wrong with this institution, at secondary school and college it was easy for me (im from the uk) and i found the work manageable, interesting. At university the modules are not are as they are portrayed when i first signed up, there is little help on the assignments, i’ve only seen one guy get a first! in three years! the class average is 2:2, pathetic, and this from the university of leicester, which i think is about 12th in the UK. On top of that the department has won numerous awards and merits in my subject area in relation to student feedback, which i can’t imagine why as i’ve met about 3 students who actually have praise to give.

    The lectures are so uninformative, and provide you with very very very (x10) basic outlines of the module. I’m not a racist, i’m leicester born and bred, the most multicultural city in leicester, but even i have trouble deciphering the accents of some of the lecturers, i’m sure they have brilliant minds and are renowned names in their fields but fuck me, isn’t it more important that we actually understand and are able to hear what were being taught?

    Then it comes to the pressure it exerts on students, as i’ve said most of them are sheltered or naive people, but this isn’t their fault in most instances, i’ll blame the upbringing, they haven’t been prepared for the stress and i’ve seen people crack and scream, cry, shout, beg etc just for the sake of a module mark, just for a piece of paper, just for this “life changing” degree.

    And what does it actually get us these days? jackshit for the majority, i remember teachers used to tell me when i was little “dont wanna shove shit for a living? go to uni, get a degree, youll be made for life”. Its been 17 years straight in education for me, and i get told im too “entitled” and “arrogant” to have any hopes of a good job… maybe the teacher back then was spreading false hope, maybe the older generation who has been less successful is too bitter…

    And now it leads me to this point, with 4 months left to go to think, why am i ranting at this stage? Because even with the benefit of being nearly finished (and i know theres a lot of people out there who are envious of me right now and think “what a self-righteous prick” ) i was at the stage for so long that i was depressed, anxious, stressed etc….to the stage where you cant sleep without thinking about being a failure, not meeting expectations of others, letting yourself down…whatever your reason is. Then you realise that if you did quit, where would you go, what would you do? how would you make money, sustain a lifestyle you’ve gotten used to whether its at home or just the “uni lifestyle”. You can’t, so you do what you must: tell yourself you’re a tough motherfucker and that you’re to going to beat it. But the only thing you’re beating is the rebellious thoughts in your head, the ones that might actually take you somewhere, the ones that could make you cross from academic “success” to real life wealth, real knowledge, independence, experience….the things that actually matter, instead the fucking world seems deadset on seeing how much useless shit they can force on a group of people and the ones who survive the onslaught get given a smiley sticker and a pat on the head and go back to their waiting jobs (and yes i am now a waiter).

    Do what i havent had the bollocks to do, leave uni, get a life, your own one, not one which is dictated by numbers, facts, stats, results. One that you could tell your children about one day, one that you could look back on and say “the experience i had in thailand/new zealand/uganda/colombia/china etc was the best fucking thing i did” instead of “hey bro, remember that stats exam in year 2? nailed it!”

    This has turned into an essay, so to summarize my main points uni style:

    Point 1) Fuck uni

    By Kazuo Black

  1934. Ok, I know this is off topic, but is there anyone else who is from UK?
    I’ve completed my second year, and I am considering changing institutions, so does anyone know whether this is possible?

    Will I need to retake my first and second year? (Diploma and Advanced Diploma)

  1935. I worked 8 yrs in my job saving like crazy before I decided I was ready to go to University to continue my career without inflicting massive debt on myself. I then worked another 2 yrs in the same job while studying full time. This year I won a scholarship for all my damn hard work. NICE. I’ll use that money and hand in my notice, give myself more time per week to study, get a 1st class masters degree and avoid a mental breakdown during term like I have the last 2 years. Perfect!

    So why am I here bitching? Because a bunch of smarmy employers and jumped up elitist students with less then a fraction of my experience tell me my 10 yrs relevant employment counts for shit, because I’m not doing an unpaid “work” placement this summer. The so-called essential transitional summer before my graduation year, when everyone is set to rape the shite out of everyone else for a glorified shop-assistant’s job. So what am I doing instead of getting ass raped, ripped-off, treated as slave-labour and bullied by my AHEM senior colleagues? Getting a real job that pays REAL MONEY to pay my real mortgage, real bills, very real tuitions fees, all so I can finish my degree.

    Maybe I’ll come away from this laughing? Maybe a potential employer will see my experience, see my worth and not just scratch me off the list because I don’t have ‘punch-bag cash-cow’ scrawled next to my name this summer. But it all sounds so unjust, so short-sighted, so * institutionalised,* I expect that’s just what will happen.

  1936. Leaches!!! Plagiarism!!! Blatant cheating!!!
    Do your own work and stop crawling up my crack to get a copy of what I just wrote. Who the hell are you anyway? Why you suddenly asking me to waste my time emailing u so and so’s lecture notes and that recording i made on the day you culdnt be assed to come in? U want this library book? You’re so desperate you dont mind stealing out my bag? Sure I noticed – I expected you to try.
    Im not just talking about one person here, I put up with this for years, beating off the greasy leaches who only got this far by piggybacking off a handful of competent students. I seen the cheat sheets going around, I seen you using big bro/sis’ work and just copying it. I read your essay cut n pasted off wiki. So the University dont care but I have standards. I dont want any part of it. I can do this degree with the grey matter between my ears. I wont be a simpering little piggy at the end of the course.i’ll hold my head high.

  1937. university is to give stupid people realistic goals.
    its true that the richest people in the world dropped out or didnt start at all.
    Its because they didnt need it. and what would it be good for? When you are done studying, you get a better payed job, but you are no higher up in the system. you only fill an open part of it. just like a mechanic fills an open part.

    Everyone tells you what to do. go to school, get good grades. get a good job. and so on.
    you get nowhere. a nice car feels good, but the work and the efford you put into it, isnt worth it. the speed limit is still the same. you cant go faster with a fast car.
    you dont get girls by having nice stuff. you dont get friends by having nice stuff.

    I cant stand students. they are so stupid. We had a lecture in marketing last year, and (sry my english isnt the best) the teacher showed us an example on how to make a creative chart. a part of the “creative” prosess.
    then we got put in groups to make our own idea or something. The first thing the group started doing was to make the same chart as the teacher.
    How stupid are they? why are they studying marketing if they cant think on their own?

    anyways. if you got a talent, work on that. thats if you can put all the social pressure aside and follow your dream.

  1938. 1. Some of my lecturers are arseholes. They can’t answer simple questions. They give confusing answers, or get lost in their own thoughts.

    2. Some of my lecturers are unable to speak English properly. Please speak English properly if you wish to teach people about accents of the UK. I cannot make sense of your horrible accent that you employ when you are pretending to tell me about some sound that people in region X in the UK might use.

    3. Some of my lecturers are lazy, incompetent, semi-literate, ignorant and very confused. They are unable to ask a question or request what they want from students clearly. When students then attempt to provide some mysterious response, they are then taken to task for not providing a different answer. I believe that these lecturers have an enlarged scrotum in place of a working brain in their big, stupid heads.

    4. Some of my lecturers are unable to provide meaningful and constructive feedback. Have you ever had a lecturer who gives you very positive feedback but a very low mark? Wait until that happens – you will feel more confused than you ever did during their tedious, incompetent lectures!

    5. Some universities reward their hard-working students with six deadlines on the same day. Students find that getting the university to rethink or revise this policy is a dead-end. The response from the talking heads/brainless lecturers and convenors is usually along the lines of ‘this is the way we set the dates and there is nothing more we can do’. Students, be aware that you are meant to plan and complete your work in time for your six deadlines on the same day. If you fail to achieve this, you’re obviously a loser who deserves to fail. For the one student in each university who copes with this kind of nightmare and walks away with six A’s – I hope that one day I too can have my great brain transformed into an alien computer-borg that runs on nerdism and Red Bull.

    6. Why is it that some fellow students are such shitstains? Why do some pricks (male and female students included here) enjoy criticising their fellow students so much? Is it too much to shut up, sit back, and allow the lazy lecturer to do his or her job? Is it really necessary to bitchily nitpick your way through each of your peers’ work so that you can feel better about yourself? Why do these same nitpickers dislike criticism so much themselves? Why are such people even born? The people who do the most criticising are usually those who have personalities and minds like boiling vomit.

    7. Why is it that some students can’t seem to differentiate between a lecturer’s personality and their ability to teach? Yes, lecturer so-and-so is very trendy, handsome, intelligent and funny… on the other hand he is also an arrogant fuckwit who has no idea what he is doing. Why does he give half-baked feedback, why is he so disorganised, why is he always late, why does he expect what he can’t deliver, why is he so arrogant and why is he allowed to get away with this as a ‘professional’?

    8. To those students who can’t seem to understand how to use the university toilets: the shit and piss are meant to go INSIDE the big white mixing bowl, nowhere else! Please practise some civilised behaviour – for a change.

  1939. Where do I start…
    Didn’t really want to go in the first place but your parents keep feeding your that bull crap of you’ll get a better job bullshit. Looking at this ripoff shithole country now and seeing everyone losing their jobs I really don’t think so. I live at home and drive to the shithole which takes about an hour or so. Ever since I started I hated everything to do with it. Im sick of thinking about it and worse going there and looking at the place. I desperately want to quit, but my parents keep saying you can pack your bags, If that’s what it takes then that’s what I might do. Can’t really talk to anyone because they believe the same shit, Nobody in my family knows what I’m going through, with a thousand thoughts in my mind, trouble sleeping every night, One day I’m gonna lose it as I cant really take it anymore. I know it might look like I’m being over the top but its difficult to explain how I feel. After reading most of the comment’s on here and many relating to the same way I feel, I thought I’d write about my own hell hole misery I’ve landed myself into. Just to say most of these comment a lot of you are true. My family thinks you get the stupid piece of paper and you’ll get a very good job. Watching the news and seeing how grads have been on the daul for 2+ years after wasting 3 years just shows it is pointless. Another post I have seen is a grad works at Sainsbury’s stocking shelves! I can go on the daul for two years and work and Sainsbury’s with needed to turn my brain into mash for three fucking years!!! Is it a waste of time YES it is now anyway. What really pisses me off is people say its the best time of your life… FUCK OFF you need a fucking slap with a hot iron! I’m fed up of learning (FULLSTOP) I want to learn my way the way I have for the past 5+ years. I’m interested in computers’ and cars. Both I have learned most of the knowledge myself. (Though the best resource called GOOGLE) But unfortunately you have to get a stupid piece of paper which somehow proves you can do something. Even though that piece of paper is out-of-date the next day in which you receive it, because we all learn new thing everyday and I think you should prove you can do something by doing it, not by saying it with a piece of paper with a bunch of writing on it. At the moment I’m doing computer science at the devils hideout, and I hate everything about it! Don’t really know what to do… maybe ill try and survive while I keep taking antidepressants… but one day, I’m gonna lose it and it’s gonna be soon.

  1940. I’m in the 3rd (LAST) year got 6 months left, I HATED THE 1ST YEAR, THE SECOND YEAR and then my gran died 1st quarter of the 3rd year. I’m happy for her she’s in heaven and out of pain. RIP Dear Granny xxxx. I can sing, I can just about act and I make a decent model, despite my short height getting into a national editorial mag. sometime into the 2nd year, UNPAID and freezing cold but got to start somewhere right? lol wasn’t nude in reference to coldness, just shot in a warehouse , a hair/beauty shoot. For all the girls who may be jealous, I needed it was getting very badly bored and depressed! its been horribly horribly horrible, I don’T CARE ABOUT WHAT I’m doing, I don’t want to do the job when I LEAVE, I was shy but outgoing when I needed to be, not in your face, just happy to be myself, now I feel like salad fingers (type that into youtube, sadly funny). My family basically held me down, literally and told me your not singing, thats a dream not a career and scared me in to going to uni. At the same time I stayed at home so whenever there was an occasion (birthday blah blah) I got caught right in the middle of it like a nun at a carnival, had to join in, sometimes it was good to be with family but when coursework never stops and your busy…(no!) the 1st year I needed a lap/mac didnt get it stayed at uni, 9am -9pm , never talking to anyone bcause the girls would just give me random eye hate (I dn’t dress nasty or anything, in fact I have a penchant for ankle skirts and a coat that reaches ankles too, lol) I just don’t beg. They used my work as the register for the whole class one day, and when I COMPLAINED IT WAS MY WORK, just sneered at me as I copied the whole classes names onto a fresh paper, no sorry, nothing. That also says a lot about the uni’s organisation lol. I kept trying and failing, and catching up, and getting burnt out and wanting to cut myself but I cut my clothes instead, fashion statement, cut myself cutting my clothes anyway, lol (yh messed up but thats what uni does- messes you up! YOU KNOW RIGHT ?) and my essays weren’ bad but we have 1 a year…1st year my male cousin from overseas came to stay and I had to share a bedroom with my gran, she also thought it would be nice for me to take him out to see London, even though I had work to do and he was a snob, asking me for a nail file,(I’m very busy) chatting up girls online, using internet when I NEED IT, AND LASTLY MOVED TO ME , ‘If we weren’t cousins, would you’ YUCKKK!………………… 2ND year started drinking, and swearing bcos I model I’ve got that kid face and the girls/EVERYONE (yep LIBRARIAN, CLEANER…cleaner: ” don’t get the taps wet”) at uni would patronise me, so I decided to swear to show how ‘mature’ and ‘real’ I was, not the real ME anyway!still no mac, I forgot to mention how the main uni security guard started stalking me, as soon as I enrolled, ‘ hey I SEE you on the cameras” LOL. never mind me I’m no fool, was worth £50, a free dinner and I can handle myself, didnt sleep with him either. So second yr my gran got cancer, and I’m working into the night like 3am, most nights and shes moaning in the background, and I’m thinking this is like a horror movie, what’S THE POINT? (Poor Gran) so naturally I got angry put less n less effort in, messed up and got into WAR with my tutors, voice recording one of them saying he had lost my work after failing to give feedback for 3/4 months, they all ganged up in the end and claimed it was never lost and I HAD TO TAKE it just for the sake of peace and to continue. I also tried to do apiece of work and had to use a workshop, you’d think workshop inductions would be regular as the course runs each yr with fresh students, no you have to book your own induction and it can only take place once 20 or so people sign up, which meant in order to do a piece of coursework I’d have to wait a month, with a week to hand the thing in. Then in the third yr the whole campus had to move, imagine the fuss, totally new everything, even for the tutors. 2nd year my filling fell out, too scared to take time off and see the dentist, left it alone now you can see the roots of my tooth. People always pull me around waste my time and let me down, the dentist who put the filling in let if fall out in abt 2 weeks, too scared to go back… incompetence, what if it happens again or gets worse, too overwhelmed with studies and not sure how to find a new dentist, you can’t see it when I smile but its disgusting, and models are meant to have nice smiles, so sad its all I feel like I’m good at some times (drawing aside, not computing, drawing, so now I’ve become a socially abnormal computer- person, building websites when actually i’m more an artist, I thought anyway) and uni, and people letting me down has spoiled my chances at what i really want to do.(model) In the first yr I GOT PAIRED up with this zombie, who never did any work and let me do a two person project over weeks, alone, all the time agreeing annoyingly with everything I SAID. TWiCe I got paired with this zombie, till one day I ,thought stuff abc pairing system, and worked with some decent girls and a guy, enjoyed tbh. Now in 3rd year, Gran passed away, forgot to mention that every yr without fail, my mum and the student loan company between them stuff up my loan/grant, so this year, about 3 months into the course had NoThInG to live on, even :) happy part… PRAISE GOD! made up and went to meet my Dad after abt 6 yrs, and got some money for transport even to get into uni, which had moved further away. Over the summer while my poor, lovely Gran, who took me in so I could study without being asked to take my bro and sis to and from sch, babysit any random day and walk in on me as I study, was passing away, over the summer between doing resubmissions and trying to look after my Gran, (DID YOU THINK I WOULD AT LAST GET A HOLIDAY?NO) My aunt who has never left home and had an unknown grudge against Gran went on holiday and left me, to look after terminally ill Gran, including toilet duty. My family began to realise I was strained and helped me, and I got back with this really nice, sweet, shy guy, but he has a(evil?) babymum, and he was my bf (good times, he’s gorgeous thought about modelling himself but said something like it was a girly job, and quieter and politer than me, asking “can I look at you” RESPECT :) ThEn I had to split with him just to keep up at uni, which I can barely stand, he’S a gd Dad, always busy with his kid, but thats good isn’t it? I can’t complain, he wanted to give up his kid for me bcos he hated seeing the babymum so much but I’m a christian and I would have let him go to marry her if he wanted so they could have a full family. Told him put your kid 1st etc. (she dosn’t want him for some strange reason?) So 3rd year nothing to live on, quit my weekend job so I could keep sabbath, and live like a normal person getting a break once a week! Praise God! knew I wouldn’t cope juggling and I thought I’d live on my grant…only it didn’t come for three months! So I barely attended, no money = no transport, went to my Grans funeral like any1 would, and only now I’m getting the extension I NEEDED for extenuating circ. And… another tooth chipped, this year and guess what? I don’t have time to sort it out AgAiN! but you know what, Lord Jesus died on the cross for me, FOR YOU TOO! And he rose from the dead because HE WAS GOD IN THE FLESH, He’s my saviour and keeper, and God got me through all of this, even to the third year! HalleluJah! I’ve got six months left so I hope if anyones down they won’t commit suicide cut themselves or start alcoholism, if you’ve got a problem , kneel and pray, stay around people who are a good influence and remember to love yourself and others. JESUS did that he’s my saviour and LORD, GOD BLESS YOU ALL WITH HOPE AND PEACE AND JOY AND STRENGTH IN JESUS HOLY NAME AMEN XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

  1941. fucking hell. the reason youre all here is because you searched hating uni, and are only reinforcing your depressed attitude on eachother!? you will get depressed if you think like this.

    instead of living in rivalry to how society expects things of you, and therefore feeling like you dont have to give into pressure all the time, you have to learn how to just be. youre allowed to enjoy things, only if you think about social ecpectations. its called a heightened perspective, you will get easily depressed and fucked up if you take life phases too seriously. learn to be more resilient and even if people around you seem fake, know that you dont control them, only how you think about them! that is to not let it bother you and choose to enjoy yourself and adapt to situations that might not be perfect

  1942. It seems deeper (above me) is quite correct indeed.

    If University is considerately depressing you, then you need to ask – why? If it’s because it’s one module, then just think that within a couple of months that module will be done! If it’s more broader, for example, you don’t like the atmosphere – then why is that? Do you like drinking and clubbing? Are you part of a society? What do you do in your spare time? Maybe do something different? Why not go to a football match every week? I used to “hate” uni, only because I dislike change and that i’d miss the person I loved. But even now, i still wonder whether I like Uni or not. But you have to accept that you’re not the only person feeling these problems… there’s others that are much worse off :) Forget all the fake people around you. Believe me, happiness is fickle.

    If you need someone to talk to then feel free :)

    jim-bob2009@live.co.uk

  1943. I have a presentation and an essay due on the same day! WOW! why do they always pick the same day for these deadlines ? Lectures shouldn’t be longer than an hour , because after that the students start to loose focus. I mean there are 3 hour classes all crammed in one day, are you kidding me! give me some space !

    I haven’t read one book of what im supposed to be doing, cause honestly im just here because of my parents, my gpa is really low, I barely made it through my first year. Im in my mid twenties and I haven’t even had a boyfriend yet because all I have done in my life is study, study, study. My parents overprotect me way too much and all I can think is sex, sex, sex and making out with a guy from my class, this is what happens when we drag these experiences all the way to Uni without never experiencing a kiss, a hug or even an I love you, it’s stupid and dehumanizing how we are just expected to cram all this useless information and leave enjoyment and relationships at the bottom of the pond. The school system is obscure beyond repair, shady,greedy, boring and never a guarantee for a job, all I want is a good shag by that guy’s p e n i s right now…

  1944. I think I have read almost every post on here throughout my two years at university, they definitely helped me out! I know its a cliche but it is good to know you are not the only one in a situation.
    I recently dropped out of university, here is my blog that describes a bit about why and my general university experience-

    http://letterstoabestfriend.tumblr.com/

    It is basically just self-pitying descriptions (thus far) but I can’t be bothered to write it all up on here in a comment but when I was depressed about university all I wanted to read about was other people’s similar misery!

    I will say if anyone is desperately upset at university you have other options. University is only one route and not for everyone, as long as you have thought about other prospects and made an alternative plan then I would not hesitate in dropping out.
    Everyone says “its the best time of your life!!” lies.

    oh and similar to James92 (above) if anyone needs/wants to talk whether it be wallowing about the crapness of university, weighing up options or anything really I will post my email on here if anyone wants at all.

  1945. Pretty much the same as everybody else here, I hate university (and the word Uni!). I take forensic science at huddersfield, its a good course and its interesting, its the student living that drags me down. My flat is overpopulated by chinese students, which isn’t that bad, however i can’t help but feel lonely everyday. I have friends, but they have their own lives too, so i see them in lectures and every blue moon on a night out. I don’t like drinking, i have no problems with people that do however. I finish lectures at about 1pm everyday, only to come back to my ridiculously priced prison cell and sit until the next day, i do study to pass the time, i play xbox and watch films but it is still boring as fuck. The gym is too expensive to join otherwise i would of joined, the town center has nothing but bars, which again cost a fair bob.

    This isn’t at all the best time of my life, i don’t care what anyone says or how much “experience” they have, It is hell here, monotonous, pointless hell. I will be living at home and commuting as soon as this year is out, and i look forward to it greatly.

    Also i don’t get the whole clubbing thing, i’ve been to enough of them, so i am speaking from experience, everyone is wasted and drugged up. In my opinion if it takes that much booze and drugs to make a club “enjoyable” or “fun”, then theres seriously something wrong and they need new hobbies?

    No more ranting now from me, i’m all out
    Peace.

  1946. As someone who has been in the working world most of my life, I was actually quite relieved to return to education. Working 40-60 hours a week is no fun for the rest of eternity; I have no idea why you all wish that upon yourselves. Being allowed to express yourself and be creative in your own time is what coursework is all about. I don’t do anything to prove myself to anyone, I just do it to prove to myself that I am still moving forward. And that’s what it should be. No-one can force you to learn and progress and move forward in life; that’s up to you. Universities do not hold your hand, and I think honestly that’s where most of the resentment here is. Many postings I’ve read comment about “Parents expectations, no friends, no true friends, not learning anything, no job afterwards”, however all these things are up to YOU to do something about, no-one is going to live your life and fix your life for you. I spent a decade in misery, in various full-time jobs where I was deemed “successful”. If you want to pin “bullshit” on something then it’s not university, it’s the capitalist faux-democracy society that we live in.

  1947. I get so annoyed with myself for hating university because I’m at a really good one! The lectures are great so I shouldn’t be having any problems with the work, but I am!! I have depression & anxiety issues (which uni has made a hundred times worse!) so I freak out about seminars and end up not going which just makes everything worse and I have no motivation to do any work which makes me more anxious and again everything is worse!
    I just feel like university is definitely not for me, or at least not right now! I don’t think I’ll be able to get better or back on track whilst I’m still here but dropping out just isn’t an option because then I’d have no money, I’d be living with my parents & I’d be the disappointment/failure.
    The frustrating thing is that the course I’m doing is cinema & photography and all of it is stuff that anyone with an ounce of sense can learn by themselves!!! Most people who have jobs in these areas do not have film or photography related degrees!! It’s unnecessary apart from the fact that society tells you that you need one and are a disgrace if you don’t get one!
    In an ideal world I would have enough money to drop out of uni and get my own place and then I would spend all my time focusing on my own photography or filming or writing a script, whilst having a part time job somewhere and just enjoying life!!! But obviously that’s not going to happen!
    I just hate everything about this place and it’s doing me no good being here and at the end of it (in 2 & a half years) I don’t think I’ll be glad I stayed and endured the bullshit and I’ll probably feel like I wasted three years of my life and still won’t be able to get a job.
    Fuck this shit.
    Arrghh I feel like a pathetic whiny tween but I really am going through the hardest time of my life and it’s only now that I realise what depression truly is.
    But yeah anyway, still good to know I’m not the only person who hates uni because it seems like everyone I’m surrounded by LOVES it – I wish I could be normal like them and enjoy it! (high school was so easy and fun, definitely was not prepared for uni!)

  1948. In my experience, university is just an extension of highschool. The students are still immature and professors are totally out of touch with the realities of being a student today. University is supposed to cater to those with intelligence. I have it, I know it, every standardized test has told me I’m smarter than the average. And yet, university does nothing to encourage my growth as an academic. The supposed institutions that allege to help students don’t give a rats ass (I’m talking about YOU OSAP!). I’m enrolled in theatre studies and it has made me hate theatre. I’m switching into sociology hopefully, but my stupid university doesn’t make switching programs easy. I can’t relate to any students in my classes because I’m 4 or 5 years older than all of them (I’m 22). So making friends has not been easy, most kids (that’s what you are when you enter university right out of highschool, I don’t care what you think, you’re still a child) just want me to buy booze for them with my fancy I’d that says drinking is yes. I have to work a stupid job I hate because my parents aren’t rich (rich kids, you know who you are, don’t pretend you know what it’s like to work a job to support yourself). To anyone considering university I warn you: don’t go, unless you want to rip your eyes out of your skull.

  1949. I previously posted on here on 09/12/10… when I absolutely hated Uni life. My advice to first years who hate uni and feel as if they are isolated and alone, is this:
    Stick it out, it DOES get better ! I have made a lovely group of friends and I live with 4 of them. Get involved in things, or get a part-time job.. I did this and through part-time work I have made friends, it keeps me busy and gives me a break from Uni and uni revision/ note-taking/ reading AND I get paid for it. I also started running and going to gym classes- student classes where I live ( West of England) are around £3-4 a session, so not realllllly expensive. You have to try and make a new life, that’s what I told myself and I am really happy now, in fact, I prefer it more to Home. Happiness and contentment will show through your grades at Uni, last Semester I got four B+’s/ B’s overall, which I am very happy with. I have a year left in May ’12, so I am making the most of it.

    Best of Luck to everyone who is not happy at the moment, strength WILL find you somehow, or as I did, you will find Strength.

    Amelia x

  1950. Im in my first year at wolverhampton doing photography and i can honestly say i hate it and have done since like october . However i came to uni straight from college and only decided that i actually wanted to go to uni weeks before the deadline and due to going through a break up i thought it was best for me to get as far away from home for a fresh start .
    I made all the wrong decisions and i know what i want to do now , i want to go home , get a full time job , work for a year , pay my overdraft off , visit my father in Australia , hopefully get a car and then start from scratch at uni sept 2013 .

    I feel that where i went wrong was not taking a year out to begin with , I did no research into any unis no research into the courses , the cities , nothing and this is where i went wrong , I find that i just sit in my room constantly refreshing facebook all day every day and dont even attend uni at all now which depresses me because i know i dont want to be here , i know what i want to do but i cant do it because of my mother .

    My mother attended university but was only there for her freashers week because she found out that she was pregnant with me and i can honestly say that she has never let me live that down as she is completely convinced that i will make the same mistake as she will .
    She is well aware of how i feel in wolverhampton and also in what i plan to do next year and the year after , It was even her idea to go visit my dad and she also offered to help my find a full time job for my year out, however she will not let me come home untill i finish first year , insisting that i see the year out then return home .

    What is the point in staying here though when i know what i want to do ? Im 90 miles away from home , from my Nanny , my mum , my boyfriend . From everything (when i go back to uni i plan to stay at home at least for the first year ) . Staying here is just making me ill , i dont sleep properly , when i do sleep i sleep for hours and hours and hours , when im awake i just sit here drinking lucozade and smoking cigerettes.

    I have made friends and i do have a social life here , i just do not like the city , the uni , the course and the lecturers .

    P.S sorry , i just needed to get alot off my chest .

    Chloe , x

  1951. “I previously posted on here on 09/12/10… when I absolutely hated Uni life. My advice to first years who hate uni and feel as if they are isolated and alone, is this:
    Stick it out, it DOES get better ! I have made a lovely group of friends and I live with 4 of them. Get involved in things, or get a part-time job.. ”

    In regards to that comment from Amelia, well, I’m in my 4th year, and absolutely hated it in my very first term, wanted to leave desperately, but stuck it out. Here I am now, still unhappy, my life still lower than what it was before I came to uni. It’s easy for you to say “Just stick it out!” But you can’t just assume everyone’s situation is like yours.

    Uni, for most of the part, won’t get better. I’ve tried 3 fucking extra years. Take it from me. It still hasn’t. I even tried transferring last year, and even with the new school it’s not good. It’s only now that I am choosing to drop out. And what am I leaving all these 4 years with? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. A huge dent in my father’s bank account. My first term I got straight B+’s. My last term I got one A, the rest C’s, D’s and an F.

    Uni has ruined my life. Uni has made my parents think I am a failure. All my father ever wanted from me was a degree. Uni has made my dad lose all faith in me. Uni has made me lose my self-esteem. Uni has me full of regrets. Uni has lost all my friends. My dad now calls me a lazy kid who isn’t willing to work hard for anything. THIS MAKES ME FEEL TERRIBLE!!! ON THE VERGE OF SUICIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel I have let him down big time

    I just absolutely hate what all of it has done to me. I feel like breaking down and crying right now. I feel like, none of it was useful to me. I made so many changes in my decisions.. that my father just doesn’t want anything to do with me right now. I had no friends. I was depressed. I told him I had no social life and he told me he doesn’t buy that and doesn’t think its a factor to fail at all. Like what does he want me to be!!! A fucking robot?!?!?!

    So thank you uni, thank you for bringing me down to an utter piece of shit to my own family & friends. For making me work 4 years to not even achieve one certificate. OH GOD! Please just help me in this situation… I feel like seriously killing myself.

  1952. Hey!
    I posted on here over a year ago and even though everyone told me it would get better…it hasn’t! (surprise surprise)
    Actually I managed to deal with my absolute rage by writing down everything I hated about uni and somehow I’ve written a book, yep an entire book!
    It’s called I Hate University by me Elsa Taverna and i think it’s free on amazon for a couple days (i hope) but if you’re interested have a read! (this isn’t spam honest!)
    I feel like we need a voice, I think people need to understand what young adults are going through because there is NO support for people heading into their twenties, we lose our parents, friends, financial support and then have to deal with uni which makes us jump through hoops, and my legs are tired!
    Let me know what you think (i still have a year left of uni…maybe a sequel??)

  1953. Hi Elsa,

    Nice initiative!

  1954. I fucking hate university.
    Everyone said first year was a doss – I still hated it, and it was a waste of one year to boot, plus £6k down the toilet.
    Second year – my father told me was the hardest year, so I worked my arse off to get good grades so i could relax in the third year. Turns out my grades are shit anyway and the third year is even harder. What a load of shit.
    Only now am I realising that I have spent 3 years with people I probably won’t keep in contact with and I have a massive debt. Plus, well done university for scheduling 4 assignments in the semester WITH the dissertation, well done to you fuckers.
    I cannot wait to get out of this shithole.

  1955. Avoid university councellors. They can be just as cold and robotic as the typical university student/staff. University councellors never tell students to quit their course because it is in the university’s financial interest not to loose the fees/rent that the unhappy student would have otherwise payed. I know that from experience. Only an NHS councellor is unbiased and will give you good advice about whether its worth staying at university or not, because they don’t have any hidden financial agenda.

  1956. ^^^^ completely agree with that comment about counsellors! I went to see one at my uni and she made me feel like an even bigger freak than I already felt and she didn’t really seem to understand my issue with university so her “helpful suggestions” were pretty much useless.

  1957. I wanted to write here because in my first 3 or so months of uni I absoloutely hated it and this site was like my haven – knowing that other people were struggling and felt the same way I did.
    I felt awful, I hated class, I got behind in work because I couldn’t concentrate I was just obsessed that I was unhappy where I was. I avoided making friends even though I was desperate to make some. I am a socialable person but I felt like a freak. I became paranoid because I found it so difficult to adjust to being at university…. BUT GUYS, I came out the other end!
    And before you troll me by saying I don’t realise how hard/shit/horrible it is for you, I do. I really do….I was so close to dropping out, I was crying everyday, I spent days in my room not eating because I didn;t want to go out into the kitchen to see my flatmates that I didn’t get on with.
    I’ve grown so much, and I would NEVER take back all the shit and pain I went through those 3 months because now I can honestly say I am having the time of my life. I feel like a much more mature, independant person now. Now i’m not gloating I just want you all to know that it can get better. You just have to take a good hard look at why you want to be here, and try to stay positive. A positive attitude will do wonders, believe me. The change I’ve had is unbelievable. I really didn’t think I’d ever make any friends and I have made friends for life here already. I’ve been at uni 5 months now, I’ve made some amazing friends and I’m loving my classes. Attitude and perception changes everything.

    I know it isn’t easy, it was hard as fuck for me, but there is light at the end of the tunnel guys and when you get there all the shit will have been worth it :) I promise you.
    Just go out with a smile and keep your head up! And all you have to remember is that EVERYONE finds it hard, some find it easier to adjust and some take a while like us, doesn’t make you a freak.. if anything it means you are normal, having normal feelings. I hope this has made you feel a bit better!

    p.s. I saw a counsellor and I may have been lucky with meeting a decent one but I found it to really help me realise my feelings were normal and possible to overcome.

  1958. I’m now in my second year (almost third) of uni and i hate it.

    I didn’t get a place in halls in the first year so got bunched with random people into a house. As a result I have no friends, when I go to uni everybody in my class has their own social group because they were all in halls together and I’m a complete loner. At the end of the first year one of my housemates who never bothered going to uni dropped out, another guy ( who was a complete dickhead I didn’t get along with) moved in with his friends. Which left me and two girls(One Russian, One Chinese) to find a house for next year.

    The only reason I didn’t drop out of uni is because I kept telling myself the second year must be better than the horrendous first year I had.

    How wrong I was…

    I’m now over halfway into my second year and I hate uni more than ever. I’m in survival mode just now, just struggling every day for another year and a half till this nightmare is over. I have no social life, no friends, and to make it worse everybody else loves uni, heck even my friends from back home all are having the time of their life, except me.

    On to my housemates…

    The Russian girl keeps acting weird, is constantly on her phone and is one of those people who never bother looking at you when they talk to you. Almost like I don’t exist. She is also very secretive, and doesn’t talk to me and the other girl much. However, every time me and my other housemate have a conversation (talking, texting, skype, whatever) she becomes very nosey and rude like she has a right to know what we’re talking about.

    The Chinese girl is okay, she’s a very nice person however she has here own group of friends so isn’t in the house much at all.

    Lastly every night all I hear is the Russian girl having loud sex with her boyfriend as her room is right above mine, and this has been going on for over a year. It’s ridiculous and goes on for hours every single fucking night, they’re at it everywhere, in her room, in the shower, the living room ,whatever. I haven’t tried telling her to quieten down, because I know she wouldn’t listen anyway. I’ve spoke to my other housemate about this and it’s not fair on her either, but she won’t listen to either of us.

    Before uni everybody told me it will be the best three years of your life, hell, even my college teachers said it would be. It’s been by far the worst three years of my life so far. All I want to do is just graduate and erase uni from my mind, I don’t want to remember it at all, and I know after I finish uni, all my friends back home will talk about is how great their uni life was, which just makes me angry and depressed.

    I think I’d rather go to prison rather than do another three years in uni.

  1959. Peter Hitchens

    Below is an interesting article by the reporter Peter Hitchens titled “Is university really such a good thing? I spent three years learning to be a Trot ” written on 16th Oct 2010…

    What are universities for anyway? I went to one and spent the whole time being a Trotsky­ist troublemaker at the taxpayers’ expense, completely neglecting my course. I have learned a thousand times more during my 30-year remed­ial course in the University of Fleet Street, still under way.

    We seem to accept without question that it is a good thing that the young should go through this dubious experience. Worse, employers seem to have fallen completely for the idea that a university degree is essential – when it is often a handicap.

    For many people, college is a corrupting, demoralising experience. They imagine they are independent when they are in fact parasites, living off their parents or off others and these days often doomed to return home with a sense of grievance and no job. They also become used to being in debt – a state that previous generations rightly regarded with horror and fear.

    And they pass through the nasty, sordid rite of passage known as ‘Freshers’ Week’, in which they are encouraged to drink dangerous amounts of alcohol and to lose what’s left of their sexual inhibitions after the creepy sex educators have got at them at school.

    If they have learned self-disciplined habits of work and life, they are under pressure to forget all about them, suddenly left alone in a world almost completely stripped of authority.

    And if they are being taught an arts subject, they will find that their courses are crammed with anti-Christian, anti-Western, anti-traditional material. Proper literature
    is despised and ‘deconstructed’.

    Our enviable national history is likewise questioned, though nothing good is put in its place. Even if they are study­ing something serious, their whole lives will be dominated by assumptions of political correctness, down to notices in the bars warning against ‘homophobia’ and other thought crimes.

    I think this debauching of the minds and bodies of the young is more or less deliberate.

    The horrible liberal Woodrow Wilson, who eventually became President of the United States, was originally an academic who once blurted out the truth as seen by many such people. He said in a rare moment of candour: ‘Our aim is to turn out young men as unlike their fathers as possible.’

    Well, look at the modern world as governed by graduates who despise their fathers’ views, and what do you see?

    Idealist wars that slaughter millions, the vast corruption of the welfare state, the war on the married family – and in this country the almost total disappearance of proper manufacturing industry.

    Rather than putting an entire generation in debt, the time has come to close most of our universities and shrink the rest so they do what they are supposed to do – educating an elite in the best that has ever been written, thought and said, and undertaking real hard scientific research.

    Or do these places exist only to hide the terrible youth unemploy­ment that is a result of having a country run by graduates?

  1960. Well, something about this makes me glad, I’m not alone.
    Having started at uni this year, from day 1 it wasn’t what I had expected, or atleast been told to expect. Isn’t it true, these days we are told what to think by others, as if we don’t have our own minds? We are told that continuing onto higher education is ‘normal’ and a break in education means we will not have a successful future in days when our economy is failing and so on.

    Being at uni for almost 4 months and apart from the extra curricular and voluntary activities I participate in, university life has been, for want of a better word, dire. The lectures are so wishy-washy, the teachers seem to hesitate whenever I ask questions about my assignment and some lecturers just have no personality or sense of understanding themselves about what they are teaching. Also its really hard to make friends in this hell-hole. I do a combined degree which means, those doing the single honours have more chance to bond through lectures, seminars e.t.c, whilst I barely see the same person more than once a week. I did know someone before coming to university who is now doing the single honours for 1 of my courses and he doesn’t want to know me for some reason. Im not expecting to hang out every waking minute but I thought our friendship meant something or atleast he lead me to believe that.

    Next year I have no one to move into a house with as all the people I know are moving in with people on their courses and I don’t know or trust people well enough.

    So someone explain what all that jargon about meeting people who will become friends for life and having the best experience ever was all about eh? eh?

    I don’t feel its worth it but something inside me tells me I ought to stick it out. If I stick out working in a place I hate and I come out with a first, atleast I can prove that I’m not someone who will give up when the going gets tough, even if I only prove that to myself. That lesson will be worth three years at uni.

  1961. FUCK UNI. FUCK THE COUNSELLORS. EVERYONE HERE IS A PRETENTIOUS STUCK UP PIECE OF SHIT. FUCK THE EXPENSIVE TEXTBOOKS. FUCK THE POINTLESS ASSIGNMENTS.I WILL NOT LAST 4 YEARS. I DONT EVEN WANT TO BE A TEACHER ANYMORE. GEORGE CARLIN WAS RIGHT, EDUCATION SUCKS AND ITS NEVER GOING TO GET ANY BETTER.

  1962. People… do what you enjoy in life and try to pursue a career in that particular area… or work for your self and be the one that gives your self a pat on the back for all your hard work.

  1963. you dont even know me

    Shit what i hate most about life is that i am stuck here working my ass off in college while these little punks are becoming millionaires…just like that. Its ridiculous.
    …And i do hate my university so much. At the moment, i hate the environment and i hate the people. But what i really hate the most is that in order to get anywhere you have to know someone on the inside. SO in other words you have to kiss ass to some stuck up professor who doesn’t really give a crap whether you get in or not. He gets payed whether he/she teaches you or not. Frankly, i would rather not socialize with these people at all. Either you want me or you do not, i am not going to play these stupid games. Just keep one thing in mind, i have something to offer and i promise you that if you preclude me from getting anywhere i want, you will regret that choice.

  1964. Loving the fact this thread has been going since 2004 . . u are all legends . .uni does suck and seeks merely to beat your mind with useless ‘education’, to then go into the wider world, an ‘educated’ cucumber!!! Common sense, work ethic and practicality, are three very different but essential skills in any workplace, something Ive found university teaches little, if anything about . . if your thinking of going to uni and reading this, do your homework(mind the pun!) and check that the course you intend to apply for is right for you and gives you the skills you need in whatever you need to do. Ask the question do i need to go to uni really? Not so much for fee’s but for stalling your life, to go to uni for those years of study. Because at the end of the day you are the one that has got to live with the choices you make (and any disappointment that comes with it) Uni has done me little favours and unfortunately my view is simple . . . The system is flawed, VIVE LA REVOLUTION!!! Peace out :)

  1965. Damn… I wish I was stronger, i’d ditch this shithole asap. If only it wasn’t for all the outside pressures of what “success” is. One day we’re all going to be dirt, the thousand hours lodged behind a book is insignificant. Why not make the best of what life we do have? It just really sucks that we have to give up so many years of our lives, and dedicate them to something we’re not even half interested in. It’s like we do this for the approval and interest of our parents/society/others. It’s so upsetting! It’s depressing to continue on this way, but it’d be far worst walking away with everyone thinking who knows what behind our backs. The truth is, we all care about what others think, and unfortunately the older we get, it’s as if soon enough, that’s all that matters. :(

  1966. fuck u university =_= that is all.

  1967. I have been forcing myself to study for the last 12 years. I’m finally on my last year of uni and I am losing my grip on myself.
    I know that life is not going to be any easier when I enter society, and I feel like I am forever stuck in a rut. Everybody calls me useless because I stay dormant most of the time.

    I am not a person who wants what most regular people wants. All I want is a job that can support myself well, be more than sufficient with necessities and preferably away from other people. Unfortunately society demands the exact opposite of what I want, which is why a good education is an important first step in our lives.

    I just find it impossible to enjoy life at all. At least, though, I’m so glad to find so many like-minded people here!

  1968. Uni is stealing my money and my soul. Oh, and not to mention, my sanity and happiness (or lack of). I am so depressed here. I thought it would get better, and trust me, I tried making the most of it. I went to classes, made an effort to get out as much as possible, but at the end, I still feel the same. I hate the courses I’m taking, the marks I have been getting, and the people I am forced to live with. It really can’t get any worse. The girl I have to share a suite with, she decided to block me on Facebook, which only makes everything awkward. I don’t know if she realizes this or if her head if just too far up her ass, but why the hell would you block me only to see me real life? Ugh. Everyone is just having the time of their life but me. But I can’t drop out, because like everyone else has stated, I will be the loser who can’t finish something. But if I don’t drop out, the university will probably kick me out due to my shitty grades. I can never win. Life sucks. University sucks. I suck. But right now, I just hate university. SO MUCH. Just needed to vent. Thanks.

  1969. I personally dislike Uni because I’m shy! I have a huge interest towards each subject I’m studying and enjoy attending lecturers and doing my own readings and such alone. Though what gets to me most is tutorials or practicals where we are for the most part working in groups and regularly asked questions. I struggle to feel comfortable with most people and dislike saying my view on things or just speaking to a group of people. When finding it difficult to discuss my answers, opinions or questions I feel as if everyone thinks I’m stupid. Yet I could go home and sit with my mum or brother and discuss or teach them about what I understand and have learned with ease . I WISH I could feel as comfortable around family members as I could with anyone else. If I could ever ask for one thing in life, it would be CONFIDENCE!

  1970. Jimbo the Redneck

    I hate university the only thing great about it is when class ends and I can take the bus home. Won’t be graduating until 2013 U of T suspended me for 1 year spent like 4 years in this shithole. 1 more year will just kill me but I gotta remain strong. University is like jail getting out is graduating! 2013 can’t come soon enough!!!!

  1971. My second day on uni and i hate it already.

  1972. @chantelle

    I’m on the same boat. Im shy but my course has a truckload of presentations which i didn’t expect because it was a design course. Right now im just stuggling with uni because I don’t understand anything because im supposed to just “do it” and everyone else seems to know. I feel left out and depressed. I want to drop out but i feel like i’ve failed my parents expectations. i dont know what to do.

  1973. So, here I am. Once again depressed. I hate knowing I have 2 years after this year until I finish University. Maybe 3, if I decide to take a years work placement. The past year for me has been so shite. I understand that majority of people love University.. the comments on this website are only a drop in the ocean. But it’s nice knowing i’m not the only one. I can’t blame the University themselves because the lecturers and teachers are great and know what they’re talking about and make classes very interesting – sometimes. But just the thought of knowing how long I have left at Uni is the worst part. My older sister still lives at home whilst at Uni, but she’s happy… I hate that. I should be happy to. I don’t know whether if completing my degree will get me a job in the end. I already have a part-time job, granted I don’t want to work there for the rest of my life full-time.

    There’s too much studying nowadays. Too much pressure on us. Just look at the people who have an average or below average job.. they seem happy…

    Look at the people who just go to work, come home and then play games… they seem happy.

    Look at the people who have no job… okay, maybe not so happy :P
    oh what i’d do if i won the lottery, I cannot tell you how much it would cheer me up – going to university thinking “yeah, i dislike it here, but geez after 2-3 years i’ve got millions to play with, even if it has fuck all to do with my degree!” I think I might start playing the lottery, yeah, my way out.

    Okay, need to start getting on with this work now – deadline soon.

    People who are reading this, all i can say is, i feel just like you. I mean it. Thinking over and over and over again how much you dislike the place and that life would be so much easier to drop out, and just do something extremely simple. I’m not bothered whether my degree gets me a job salary £50,000 or £20,000. I just want to be happy. Family, job, house, health = happiness. With more money comes more stress.

    jim-bob2009@live.co.uk (email me if you want to ask things about uni, express your depression or just want someone new to talk to)

    Take care all, i feel for you.

  1974. I HATE university right now, and I’m finally in the process of “withdrawing from my studies” after a few months of beating myself up about it. I mean to be honest I could have left after only a few weeks but I decided to stick it out for a little bit longer, wish I had just gone with my instincts. Waste of time, effort and money! A lot of people were pressured into going to University in September me being one them “Oh the fees are going up if you don’t do it now you will be paying the debt for an eternity.” I don’t even care about that anymore, I just want to be happy! I had been looking forward to University for YEARS, no exaggeration here. I thought I’d finally be free and have lots of friends with an amazing social life. Do I have any of these things, no. Instead I’m stuck in a University that I didn’t even want to go to in the first place, with no character, no student buzz and a lame excuse for a student union. Whoever told me University was going to be the best years of my life were talking a load of bull, I much preferred being in secondary school!

  1975. I can’t agree more with you Lolita92. I have never been excited for University – never. I guess i’m a boring person.

  1976. I hate uni. I just feel so depressed. I usually come home, pretend to sleep and cry.

  1977. uni can be a bitch sometimes makes u feel unwanted most of the time. i thot ppl were more accepting in uni, turns out they r less :P my course is alright but social life sux balls. football team all love white men tht like to whip their penis’ out on socials wtf bent or wat. smoking way too much weed, not getting enough pussy as well. buzzkill anyone find it better as years progressed?

  1978. I hate uni too. So. Much… Only since reading this site have i felt that i have been free to express this. I thought i was just doing something wrong,that it was just me not enjoying university but its not and in a way im so glad that im not alone!
    Ive not even been here a year yet and honestly i cant stand it. i can do the essays..but my opinions are never right. I finally get somewhere..they move the goal posts. I move in with my best friend… She turns round and she decides she hates me and shuts me out of her life. I get money..it pays bills. My housemates are all childish, pathetic and homophobic..and if your not willing to be a whore and get pissed every night then you cant be part of the special fucking little gang that lock themselves away on the third floor of our house. Sick of feeling outcast by them all. Tired of having no money to live with and when i finally get some it goes to paying off all money that i owe. Where are all the so called ‘life long friends’, the none caring crazy student lifestyle, the fun and the ambition that everyone seems to promise you when you moved to uni? Instead i got to be in the darkest most lonely place i have ever been… All for a stupid peice of measly paper, that by the time i leave uni probably wont be good enought anyways!

  1979. every1 is a sunt

  1980. Hmm. I think the problem with me is that I don’t think I want a career in the degree i’m studying now. It’s not that it’s hard (Cause it’s not, it’s quite easy and often boring). I loved ICT when I was a kid but the past year or so i’ve just got bored of tapping away into this computer. Sure enough the right career path in IT could get me some serious money – but i’m not 100% sure I want that career anymore.

    Even whilst I was applying for University I knew deep down I didn’t want to go University. It was more of a social norm… “You must go University”. And i’ve not even been here a year yet – only a few months until i’ve finished my first year. Yes; it’s true, sometimes University does go fast. But it only seems like its gone fast when you look back. Whilst you’re feeling all emotional, 1 month can seem eternity. You’d think i’d love the degree i’m doing, getting 1st’s and 2:1s all the time. But i’m starting to resent my degree. If I don’t truly feel like doing this as a career, I should consider an alternative.

    I’ve always visioned about being a police officer. And I don’t mind starting University again to train myself up on one of their programs. In fact, i’d love this – knowing that i’m actually training myself for something I have a career goal in. Of course there’s a danger with this job, but I want a job that’s completely new everyday. A new case, a new puzzle, new work, new stress, new criminals. Long hours, sure I can handle that, no social life because of these hours? Well, that’s already my lifestyle.

    What do you all think? Should I quit my ICT degree to train to be a police officer?

  1981. outcast is defo the name for it i am 22 in my second year lived a life before in london !! I have never enjoyed education probably because i am dyslexic i rebelled against it !!! but i love to talk and always have my hand up !! i just feel university isnt for me at all and the kidz that are here are just awful !!! there is nothing to do at uniy other than get drunk !! (well where i am 4 hours from any major town or city) !! so far iv shut up and stuck up with everything but today i got my exam results back and they where S@+t , the problem with me is iv made myself an island to work harder i didnt find great friends but have friends more of ppl you hang with just so you dont look like your a billy no mates! iv kept myself to myself been running on a daily basis and doing other activites but not out every night getting drunk !! iv been like this since late december early January ignoring the small town talk !!! and result day come everyone that partied the night before exams all got great marks passed flying colours !! a girl in my class that has never left wales though that Australia was in china and she revised an hour before the exam, and comes out with a 1st. am I fucking brain dead, its not so much the work it the ppl , i like to be open minded iv lived a very full life for someone of my age and can usually take stuff like this on the chin but i think today for the 1st time in my life i would have rather been caught for public indecency in a childes play ground, all i want is that bit of paper so i can say to ever teacher i ever had look here thats that degree you said i would never get !!! i have the ambition i just need the paper work and open-minded ppl around me instead of of idiots that have just left their parental homes for the 1st time and wanna get drunk !!!!!!!

    at james92

    mate trust me stick at it !!! you have 5 weeks until the term ends just start preparing yourself for exams !!! do a sport to clear your mind and dont drink alot drinking makes you depressed!! i would get yourself in a routine treat it like a job 9 till -5 in the week and go out just once on the weeknd preferably a friday giving you whole weekend to recover , and the whole police man thing you do not want to become a police man you would have to deal with idiots like myself on a regular basis and i also had a friend that had a similar situation while he was at uniy and this wise man once said ” THE GRASS IS’NT ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE” TRUST ME when i say this the quote above is so true the grass isnt and dont find out the hard way just stick it out grunt and bear it !!!!!

  1982. hate my life right now, gonna drop out. I don’t care if i’m not in a good paying job because uni has made me realise that i really don’t mind as long as im happy.

  1983. In my first year at uni, at my second attempt (I dropped out after 2 months last year) and it all seems so fucking pointless…..
    Reference this, reference that – you can’t have an original idea at all. It’s £3.2k a year to have someone tell me to write bullshit essays on things which don’t interest me at all.

    I don’t care about it anymore, I hate my subject, I spend hours and hours writing with no motivation to do it at all.

    I don’t understand why people rate university so highly…. It doesn’t magically make you smart and intelligent, but then not going doesn’t make you dumb and stupid either (although many seem to think so now).

    I don’t want a crappy 9-5 office job, slaving away at admin work for the rest of my life. I want to live a fun, full life.

    University is the most miserable place to be at times.

  1984. @sbluelen

    I’d like to shag you.
    x

  1985. University is so bloody tedious, I have about 7 hours of contact hours a week. The rest of the time I have to waste (the only fitting word) away in my stupid little box room. I’ve made a countdown to going home, that’s how shit it is here. It really does feel like I’m a prisoner waiting to be released.

  1986. @Dreadnought

    I agree with you, i only have 8 hours of contact. The rest I have to ‘figure out’ myself, which I don’t know what im doing because my classes are 1 hour a week. I really want to drop out right now.

  1987. University has lead to my depression.

  1988. I love uni

    …..

    no, that was a lie

  1989. I feel as if I am in a hole. A hole that has no way out and all the sides look the same. It is a small hole and all I can do is sit here and be unhappy. Maybe if I could find a way out of the hole I could also find a small piece of happiness. But every direction I turn and every option I try leads me nowhere besides this hole. My hole is full of useless crap that eventually gets lost and replaced with more useless crap. My hole doesn’t change. It just gets deeper and more narrow. This hole is my life and University is a big part of it. I dread a week of learning chemistry, biology, finance and whatever else. It may not be University but learning in general. I hate studying and I hate sitting in boring lectures, restless and uncomfortable. I sit in those lecture chairs because of the expectations and pressure of my family and society. I do the work and I study because it has been enforced on me since I was little. It is what I have been brought up with and it is what has made me so unhappy. Every hour I hate it and every hour I realise there is no way out of it and I become more unhappy, sad and upset. It is what my life has become and I want it to disappear!

  1990. malcolm x the xena warrior princess leia

    anyone tried disappearing without a trace? thinking of doing that. fuck traces, man.
    why does the netflix selection suck so much
    why are memes so unfunny
    why do i descend into self-loathing and alienate people whenever im drunk
    why do i attempt to fight bouncers when meeting new people and never be spoken to again
    should i take acid and jump off a building? pretty traceless i reckon. bitches love scapegoats.

    anyone ever tried pissing into their own mouth?

  1991. 3 weeks of term left, come on guys we can do it!! :D

  1992. Fuck Grice
    Fuck Brown and Levinson
    Fuck Pomerantz
    Fuck Paul Ten Have
    Fuck Tannen
    Fuck Schiffrin
    Fuck Bakhtin
    Fuck Austin
    Fuck Trudgill
    Fuck Labov

    Fuck them all.

  1993. Hating uni so much too, I feel as if everyone here is miles ahead of me and I am the one struggling behind, unable to write a decent essay or do the readings on time.

    All I do is stress about the work I have to do and how long it takes me to do everything – even if I put my best effort into something I feel like the grade I get is worse than the people who knocked it out the night before. And even if I do ok then I find myself thinking – I have no idea how to do better than this, I will never improve and will end up getting a worthless grade and wasting 3 years of my life.

    I find myself constantly thinking about dropping out and getting a job, or starting an apprenticeship – I am constantly wondering what I could do to get some kind of decent money without having to complete my uni course. Every person who walks down the street I wonder what job they do, whether they went to uni, where they studied, how much they earn.

    All I want is to drop out, get as far away from all the pretentious idiots on my course, and be happy.

  1994. 3 weeks of term left but i still got shit loads of projects to finish off!!!! I hate University but with the expectations of my parents are seriously making me under pressure!! I so wanna just fuck everything up and get out of uni, and do the things that i wanna do! I agreed with Soph, All I want is to drop out and get as far away from all the idiots on my course too, god i hate them!

  1995. I was so motivated to go to uni. I think it was the moment I was Ive been waiting for all my life. Primary school was amazing, no worries everyday was exciting. Come secondary school, best banter and best mememories were made there. Then things got serious. We all felt we needed to grow up. And I worked my ass off to get into a “good” college. Which was the worst time of my life. I was a kid who did my work and tried my best. College shatterted that for me. It was a waste of a year. My passion had always been art and I choose art releated subjects but they killed art with their teachings. I never felt so much fear in my life. I hated going in. And it worried my parents so much. Im going to cut a story short, but coincidence brought me to another college. And I found a purpose again. Anyways I was the top of my class and I got amazing grades. I applied to go to an art school, but didnt managed to get in. But I ended up in another university.

    And here I am. 3rd year. and 1 more to go if I make it.
    I hated first year, university was not what I expected. I even thought about quitting but I know that doing that it would somehow upset my parents.

    So for them I stuck with it.

    Why did I come to uni? Because I wanted to be a don at my subject. I had a passion for the subject. I wanted to excel and all those wonderful things.

    I can put that aside, because I dont really need uni to do that, but what I want from them is a piece of paper for my parents.

    Why am I here after 3 years. Apart from studying I came to grow.
    Life hits you sometimes and it hits you hard. And you got to learn how to deal with it. And I still am. I didnt leave the first time because I met someone amazing, she changed the way I thought and feel. And I couldnt live with out her now. She will graduate this year and I will have to learn to deal with that. And if I didnt stay I wouldnt have met my real friends. People who actually give a shit about you, people who actually love and care for you.

    Im ramballing on now. But ill just say this. Uni can be hard, it can be unpleasent. But at the end of the day for me anyways is the people you meet and the people who come into your life. They matter the most.

  1996. Hi guys,

    I know how you all feel.

    Sometimes it’s difficult to know whether we’re just not trying hard enough or whether we are the only non-ignorant people at these places. I also feel so incredibly suffocated at uni. Trudging back from lectures every day to this tiny little box room. I used to be a fabulous dancer – it was literally my life and my passion. My teacher said i could have done it – i could have gone to dance school and done well. But pressure from my school (in the top 3% of the country) and my parents (dad went to oxford, mum to a top ten uni like me) meant i chose uni instead, as well as feeling that i would miss out otherwise on the “uni experience”.

    Before i came to university i was the fittest i had ever been. Dance meant everything to me. But all anyone seems to care about here in terms of sport is lacrosse, rugby, water polo and fucking hockey. Now i sit in my room day after day wondering what happened. There is no proper facility here for dance at all in terms of buildings; the dance club is run in a tiny hall a half hour trek from my halls, and it’s run by students so it’s low standard. I went to their presentation last week and not being boastful but i honestly could have danced better than all of them. And the only good class- advanced ballet – just happens to run at the exact same time as one of my lectures, which if i don’t attend i’ll probably get kicked off my course for or fail my exams next term. It’s almost as if someone up there is deliberately trying to prevent my happiness!

    It’s so frustrating to think that i gave up the one thing i was so passionate about for three years of utter boredom and slowly disintegrating self-esteem. The lack of regular exercise, countless days being stuck in my room, bored and turning to food for comfort, as well as pressure to drink means i’ve gained a lot of weight, which being a dancer is something i’m very self-conscious about. Not just that but losing my technique gradually is something that eats away at me day after day. There’s not even enough room in halls to do exercises in my room or in the corridors. In addition, people in my halls i just can’t relate to. The guys are all sporty dickhead misogynists who treat girls like shit, while the girls are better but still quite stuck-up and unwilling to talk. From talking to my friends from back home who are at other unis it seems they’re going through a similar experience. We all expected to find a core group of friends and be fairly settled by now. But two terms in and we still feel as lost as ever.

    I would urge anyone who has a passion like i did to not listen to your parents or anyone pressuring you to go to uni. Uni is advertised as a place where you meet like-minded people and supposedly expand your horizons, but i find that everyone here is stupider than me, and dont’ care about learning at all. I’m really surprised as i though i would be one of the least clever, but turning in reports and glancing at other people’s marks i can see that this is not the case. I do not feel enriched or supported. I feel like my worth has been reduced to uni number; I’m just another person to be churned out of this giant factory. Tutors do not make the effort to get to know you, and most of them are very reclusive and unpersonable.

    I wish i had listened to my heart and auditioned for dance college like i had dreamed of for years throughout secondary school. Uni has destroyed my fitness, my confidence, my health and my passion for learning so far. People who’ve never had a passion for something outside of academia won’t understand what you’re going through. My parents keep telling me to grit my teeth and bear it but it’s absolute hell to have to give up the thing you love most and have everything you worked so hard for (technique, endurance, stamina, artistry, medals and trophies…not to mention the best figure i’ve ever had) to watch it all go down the drain. If i want to carry on my dance during the holidays i’ll have to work twice as hard to reach the standard i was before. Then it’ll be back to uni and going backwards once more. And i feel like i missed my chance – it’s too late for me to audition this year, and by the time i’m 20 i’ll be too old and out of shape to try for it. People usually go to dance college at 16, or 18 lastest. It’s a downward spiral of depression and i wish i could get out of it.

    People – if you have a passion go for it! If you liked the subject you’re thinking of studying at uni when you were at school, trust me, at university it won’t be the same. Chances are you won’t have an inspiring tutor, the library books will never be available and you’ll wake up one morning two terms in and wonder where the last seven months of your life went. Listen to your heart because it’s the only thing you can truly trust or know. Your parents, adults in general actually, don’t always know better than you – that’s one thing i’ve learned. Yes, they may want the best for you, but they don’t always know what that is. Adults are just bigger, older versions of children; they still have petty arguments, they still get scared and upset, and they still have trouble knowing what’s right and making decisions. They make mistakes – please don’t let their mistake ruin your life because life is too short.

    I hope my experience can give some people who are undecided about university some advice or direction. Then again, although my experience has been a bad one so far, but some people have a fantastic time at uni. And who knows, mine may get better.. but i’ll always regret not going to dance college. You can study as long as you live but dancing has an expiry date!

    Love to all who are suffering or feel lost. and good luck xx

  1997. Omg, this is exactly the same as me. I’m so glad i read this site. Where are the rest of you guys, walking around uni? The ones that feel the same as me! ha.
    Everyone at my prestigious shit-hole is so fake, so fucking proud of themselves. It makes me sick. one chick, and im not kidding, talked to about 5 of us in a row, and said the exact same thing, with the exact same fake smile and respoinses and pretend giggly laugh as the previous. and then proceeded to think she was something of a social butterfly. I’m so over this. And i’m usually very sociable and fun. The second i talk to someone, or laugh, they all look at me like ‘wtf dude’. And im thinking “Excuse me? turn the fuck around, get a personality, then come talk to me you asshole.”
    And they’ve all formed their groups on the first fucking day! And any hint at something different, interesting, stimulating- you know, cool.- they freak out and crawl into their self-loving carcasses.
    I’m doing music. Not that you could tell, coz music kids are usually fun. Not this bunch. I could draw 3 stick figures and they’d be more inviting. It’s killing my passion. I wake up, and instantly can’t wait until i can sleep again. My favourite part of the day is when i’m unconcsious. fucking brilliant. To make it worse, all my friends are at differnt universities, and having a right old fucking time. even the really unsociable ones that dont like anyone. WTF? I was super excited for university. I was gonna go there and totally kickass. It was gonna be ‘the time of my life’. Fuck that shit. Whoever said that was a fucking arsehole liar.

    But you know what? this really helped. the venting shit, and the reading that everyone else is hating it to. so thanks guys, in small part for that.

  1998. I feel the same. University is absolue SHIT. I am doing History and its fucking depressing. I got 2 A*’s, 4 A’s and 5 B’s at GCSE and A*, A,B,b at Alevels and found them easy. But university is terrible, you know, its so hard and difficult (impossible, lecturers dont help and there is no progession or advice o how you can improve). Last year I barely got a 2:1 and tried so hard and my friends just do it night before and get firsts. I am pissed and want to quit. I believe if you dont go uni it doesnt make you a bad person nor should you be judged and treated differently in life; we r all humans and should be treated equally.

  1999. hii guys specially john, sooo trueee, uni doesnt make yu different to anyone else in society!!!!!!!!!. im in my third week of uni now and i hate it with an extreme pasion. its lame, dull boring and disgustingly stupid. all i can say is FUCK YU TEACHERS for telling us that uni is the biggest step in a persons life and that those who dont get in become rubbish cleaners!!!!!!!!1 i hate yu alll :(

  2000. aww, same here. I’m in my 3rd week too, and i cant beleive how phony this shit is! I was thinking it would be interesting, loads of fantastic people, but instead its been one fuck up after another.

  2001. I found this site in my first year, not surprisingly after googling I hate university. I grew hugely depressed and developed severe anxiety after what was a very isolating, stressful and alienating experience. From a social butterfly all the way through my school years to a levels, I never realised how much environment and luck has to do with establishing some kind of social life. It crippled me in everything, my work began to really suffer, because all the time I longed to be doing something fun and really enjoying university, but it was just a horrible humiliating experience and ultimately my self esteem was destroyed.

    I struggled on however and am now in my fourth year. However things just haven’t changed. I’ve made a few more friends, but they all seem just as disillusioned as me with the whole university experience. Depression and social anxiety is what I’ve sadly developed over these years, which is bizarre considering what I was like before I came. My entire spirit has essentially been broken down, I no longer want to go out anymore, I just don’t care. Chasing girls? Again I don’t care. Intense apathy and disinterest on anything and everything to do with work and enjoyment.

    It’s a real tragedy when you force yourself through to not disappoint your parents because of the huge effort and opportunity they’ve provided for you but get to this point where even those things no longer drive you.

    Fuck you university.

  2002. I’m going to the shop later to get some rope.

    Hanging myself seems to be a good option.

  2003. Finally, people who feel the same way. I’ve never been so unhappy. And it’s not even the education, its the people. Never been so lonely in my life!
    I wish I could have met people like you lot at uni, for all i know you would make better friends than the ”friends” i have now!

  2004. tell me about it!! im in the same situation as jam, i feel the same way, most people i know say the same stuff, uni is the best, blah blah, it sucks balls, especially york university canada, worst place to go, i bet colleges are more active than uni’s, fuck this, i hate my parents for putting me in an isolated environment at home and at uni

  2005. i keep failing projects coz i cant seem to meet deadlines! i’m THAT unmotivated! in my 2nd year now and its almost over, then its the dreaded 3rd year… if i’m like this now then how am i supposed to get myself through 3rd year!
    i just want to be working in the (fashion) industry already!- but cant without a portfolio and a degree :( my tutor has made it pretty obvious she hates my guts lol. i dont blame her coz i failed first year then had to repeat the year but i was going through a really difficult time in my personal life- but the tutors have NO understanding of this whatsoever. i even went to the head of year crying once in first year thinking she would be sympathetic of my situation but she didnt give a shit and made me cry even more! she even laughed when i started crying shes such a bitch. shes just bitter coz she failed as a designer and has resorted to being a university lecturer. i hate her and this other tutor so much and their greasy hair and dirty trainers and black bobbled clothes- you’re supposed to be fashion tutors for christs sake.
    not to mention some of the girls (bitches) on my course. what is the point in being a bitch- what do you wana do that for?
    oh yeah and i have to travel an hour and a half to get to uni coz i didnt wana live with other students- i’m 25 and just cant bare the thought of living with people 21 and under. i find it so hard to drag myself in and i’m often running late so just dont bother going in coz u get shouted at in front of everyone…. thats the other thing I’M NOT IN FUCKING SCHOOL ANYMORE I AM AN ADULT SO WHYYYY DO UNIVERSITY TUTORS SHOUT????? AND EMBARRASS YOU INFRONT OF OTHER STUDENTS!! its bloody wrong.
    we have group tutorials every week and if you’re not up to where ur supposed to be theres no point going in unless you want to be ripped to shreds.
    last night i found myself purchasing Breaking Dawn part 1 on sky movies at about 4am instead of trying to complete my project, and it was so freeing!!! i just thought- fuck this i’m watching edward cullen instead!! I JUST WANT TO BE FREE! HATE FUCKING DEADLINES!! hate conforming. hate being told what to do. hate having people above me. hate answering to people. have being treated like a kid my tutors. hate being told how to work. hate not being able to do things my own way. ……. i hate universityyyyyy.
    i could go on. x

  2006. It’s not that I hate university in general, I think. I JUST HATE MY COLLEGE. It’s full of trashy people who just want to manipulative to get their way. And their compensation? Being nice about it.

    Yeah, no doubt I’m talking trash to everyone about you behind your back. But I’ll just be nice to your face about it, and when you ask, I’ll tell you you’re paranoid for suspecting the worst from me.

    WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE I HATE THEM SO SO SO SO MUCH.

    My dean is a retarded, anthro-major soriority leader, my teachers are completely incoherent (drunk? retarded?) in class, and my classmates obsess over the most provincial things. What am I so at odds with everyone around me? I wish I could fly fly far away from here and never come back.

  2007. Oh, and on top of that?

    Hate all my classes. One class I wanted to challenge myself for? Dean made me drop, because I WASN’T ‘FUCKING READY FOR IT.’

    WHO THE HELL TAKES CLASSES IN MEDIEVAL ENGLISH, IN THE TWENTY-FIRST CENTURY, ANYWAY????

  2008. Im only 3 weeks in… another 14 weeks left… then another three years… id rather be dead

  2009. I am pressured with assignments, i thought uni was fun, i worked so hard and this is what i get? Fucking crap sucks, i hate stupid uni

  2010. I am currently studying a 4 year degree which is the biggest load of bullshit in the world. The people on my course are boring because the only ever talk about the course, even when we socialise outside university. It’s like they have given themselves to the university and lost their personalities. I have friends but I find talking to them boring and, at times, pathetic. The course is interesting but a lot of it is pointless. They turn the subject into a format that requires an essay or presentation, which is no reflection on actual understanding, but rather how well you can give a presentation or write an essay. The favourite type of student is the submissive type who worships the university. Anyone who is not like this is automatically singled out, like me. They students who conform to what the university wants, not independently minded individuals. University creates like-minded drones and you have to really make an effort to not lose yourself to this mentality.
    Additionally, the university lecturers try to impose this belief that we are privileged to be accepted on the course and. There is a sense of elitism amongst the staff and students which I detest. In my opinion, the people who go to university are not significantly more intelligent than people who don’t go to university. A more important factor is upbringing. The majority of the students have backgrounds that involve good schools, well off parents, lack of life difficulties and living in a good area of the country. These factors encourage good educational achievement in school which leads to acceptance into university rather than factors such as innate intelligence, which is only part of the jigsaw. This means that the sense of elitism is pointless because they are essentially in university because they were born into the ‘right’ families, but most people fail to realise this.
    I am a firm believer in education but university is something else. I see it as, essentially, indoctrination into a ‘higher class’ of society show by that little piece of paper. Education is more than exams, essays and presentations and this is what most people fail to see.

  2011. The fire within

    I don’t think university was a paradise before, but I sure think it’s becoming meaningless these days (and maybe dangerous if you don’t fit in and continue with the graduate studies where you’re singled out when you refuse to obey). Especially if your’re in literature like me. People just go on on and about a a very tiny and specific subject surroundig that artificial subject with citations and bullshit theories but at no point, gradutate or undergraduate, do they really learn literature, it’s history, it’s beauty.

    Now, I have more esteem for a peasan, a factory worker, or anyone who did not attend university than I have for all these morons and their fake diplomas…

  2012. ^ but does anyone agree with me about being treated and spoken to/scolded like a kid by lecturers if you’re not up to scratch?????? ^
    i got more respect and felt more like an adult in high school and college than i do at my uni.

  2013. I read one guy’s comment about how he is ‘ass raped’ by the commute and his dad asks him at the end of the day ‘how was your day?’

    I found his comment highly amusing but it really highlights that your parents have no F***ing idea how much you hate uni. I can’t even begin to tell my parents. They really have no idea how upsetting it is having no friends and everyone who isn’t you thinks you are having a high flying bloody good time. Everyone imagines you living some American dream with the house parties and everything but it’s not reality! At least not for me!

    When I tried to tell my parents how I had no friends, they didn’t hear how upset I was. Ha! My dad got angry at me and said I don’t need friends. Like they would f*** up my life. That I should work hard, get money and that’s all. That is all my parents think I need. That is not reality. They will never understand. That is all they want for me. Not happiness in the spiritual sense (you know, friends, good family – true happiness), they just want me to have money.

    I really struggle to talk to my parents. They have no clue about me. None. It’s upsetting too, but they are the reason I am here in uni. They have no clue at all. I could try and try, but they will never be pleased. Plus, I will never be happy with them either. The easiest thing to do is leave. That is a year away. I have been saving so I can move out at the end. Of course, they will just get angry and ask why I am leaving when they have provided me everything (except caring about my emotional needs). If I tried to tell them I need space to be myself and grow…lol, what pointlessness in even thinking about it.

    It’s true, the best advice you can give anyone is that life is short, other people may never understand what it is that you really need and you should just do what makes you happy. Nothing is worth the sadness.

  2014. 3 weeks left? am fkn 3 weeks into my fkn 2nd yearhere in australia and am FUCKING hating it! so much fkn work, dumbass students trying to be tutors who can’t teach for shit! shove that phd up your ass and piss off! and omfg don’t get me started on the lecturers garrghhh!! i really want to burn down this shit joint!!! omfg I have no idea how i survived 1 year can’t go on for another 2 years kill me now!

  2015. I used to love History. I remember back in sixth form, I used to actually read history books, for fun.

    That all changed when I hit uni. The place has literally sucked the enjoyment out of the subject I used to love. I hate it now. When I graduate, I don’t think I’ll ever pick up another fucking book again.

    I got a 2.1 last year but this year is so much more difficult. I’ve got no motivation to revise or study. I just hate it so, so much. When I wake up I just find myself thinking ‘what’s the point’.

  2016. I am currently in my third and final year of university. I have about 10 weeks left and I’ll be done for good and I’ve hated university from the very first couple weeks of starting.

    I have one good friend and many other “friends”. If it weren’t for my real friend, I probably would be in a state of depression and maybe not be here right now. Unfortunately I do not live with him because he comes from this city and I move here, so he lives at home with his family. I live with three other guys, two of whom come from Birmingham. I don’t know if it is just them, but since living with them and meeting other people from Birmingham, they seem to be the most two-faced, idiotic, oafish, racist, selfish, vain, self-centred, hooligan, backward, false people I have ever met. My other flatmate is great though, and I’m sure he feels the same as me at times, although would never admit it.

    I’ve managed to drag myself through these two-and-a-half years and need to drag myself to do my dissertation within the next month and I’ve been dreaming of the day when I can hand that in, do my two other assignments and my two exams and get the hell out of this life-sucking institution.

    If I honestly knew that university was going to be like this for me, I would never have come in the first place. But I was probably just unlucky. I think the people that you meet and end up living with make a HUGE difference on whether or not you have a good university experience. And because I am not really into the whole university culture as much as others (for example, going out clubbing and drinking all the time), I didn’t make as many friends as I could have to branch out more and live with some more level-headed, honest, loyal and gracious people.

    Like I say, it was probably just a matter of circumstance, because I live with horrible people. If I knew it would have been like this, I would have done things a lot more different when I first got to university and maybe I would have had a great time.

    I hope other people can relate to this. If you find yourself living with horrible people, I’d advise you to try and make new friends as soon as possible and live with them if you are living away from home or even live by yourself. Trust me, I’d much rather live by myself then live with this horrible people.

  2017. I find my uni life so disappointing, which is weird because I actually love my Uni in terms of teaching. My lecturers and personal tutor are all really bright persons, but they remain very humble and nice persons.
    What I can’t stand is my course mates and other students in general. All they seem to go on about can be broken down into :

    1. Drinking – Oh God how I hate the drinking culture here. Most of their conversations revolve about it and they don’t seem to be able to have a nice time without drinking.

    2. Trying to act smart – I just hate those kids who ask questions during lectures when you can obviously tell they already know the answer, and are only trying to point out how much they know. They are so arrogant and full of themselves. My lab partner is horrible. She keeps thinking she’s right, when 99.9 % of times, she’s completely wrong. Most of her friends are like that too (and that makes a big group). And the tone they talk to lecturers to are just plain disrespectful at times. It sounds like they are challenging them because they love to assume they are right, and the lecturers (with PhDs, who have been around for ages and involved in some pretty badass research) are wrong.

    3. The IQ hierarchy – I don’t like competition. Personally, it’s not productive for me. Basically, there’s the arrogant guys who are just so damn loud and flaunt their ‘knowledge’, so other students look up to them as ‘smarter’ students and practically worship them. Then they go on and think they are lame and wish they could understand things the way the supposed-to-be-smarter students do. I hate this atmosphere. It’s so not healthy. They just undervalue themselves, and create limitations to how well they can do.

    4. The cliques – Granted it is normal for people with similar background to flock together. But everyone has a group for themselves and it’s practically impossible to make new friends or fit in, if you haven’t since the beginning.

    5. To be honest I think my course mates are really loud and shallow. I just can’t get along with them. I had a gap year before and worked with really mature people. Now I am back to being surrounded by people who have no team spirit and are narrow-minded.

    Maybe I went to uni with too high expectations. I thought it would be different from high school, but really it isn’t. And this makes me so depressed.
    I feel no want to do anything and don’t seem to enjoy anything after a while. I’ve basically slacked off and I am just tired of trying to be a sociable person.

    What is it with uni anyways that you need to be a party animal ? It’s like such a constant pressure.

  2018. MJB, thank-you for your post, I can totally relate. I just have to make it to the 22nd May and I am free of this hell! We can do it! :)

  2019. Guys uni is a great chance to meet a range of people from many different backgrounds .In addition you have the opportunity to study a subject which really interested you .Therefore when you graduated you gain a set of transferable skills leading to a choice of employment opportunities Lastly you earn more money in the long team if you have a degree.

  2020. Ever since I was little I wanted to go to university, I just had this vision of me in my robes, getting my certificate, ridculously happy. I chose the university I’m at for all the wrong reasons: I wasn’t ready.

    I had planned to take a year out so I could do a different A level, working in retail, my manager had said that I could be trained up to be assistant manager-despite me only being 18 at the time. But then the tuiton fees went up, and my friend convinced me to go, I wasn’t really into it at first, didn’t visit the universities I picked, just didn’t know what was going on.

    I created high expectations of uni, I was going to meet so many different people from so many different walks of life: this has not happened, I met more diverse and open people at work. The course is brilliant, yet my motivation is so low. All I keep thinking is, I could be going out exploring the world meeting the different people I wanted to see, I just have an itch to go travelling and working.

    I recently found out that my dad never thought i’d go to university. My brother kept telling me, are you sure you want to go? But I was stubborn and wouldn’t listen. If i could start again, I would go to a university closer home, and take the year out. But that’s in an alternative world where the tuiton fees didn’t rise.

    The thing I keep telling myself is, you gotta stuggle through, my degree can mean I can become a teacher, can have a wider choice in careers. Just take everything the university gives you, i’m already doing teaching experience in the schools near me, looking at experience for publishing etc. I have lovely housemates, I just don’t like the lifestyle, hopefully next year will be better.

  2021. Was so surprised/ happy to find this when I dropped out of university.

    I felt like a complete and utter failure, cuz i knew people who were less socially skilled, who struggled so much with school and barely got into university, etc… who were stillll in university.

    I just HATED my course- I should have looked at the modules before going. Instead I was lured in by the campus, top reputation, and employment prospects. Which are important, but eyyyyyyy so is the course. Really was not what I expected and realized I do not want to work in Business/Accounting. I shouldn’t have let my parents convince me not to study psychology “because it is a useless degree”.

    Everything else was fine tho. Partied, got drunk, met 2 a-mah-zing friends who i still talk to weekly, alright flat mates, guys ;) , decent grades, joined 2 fun societies ….
    I just hated what i was studying and i tend to stress out/obsess easily and that just drove me off the cliff, I didn’t eat, I studied a lot thinking maybe if I study more stuff and learn new stuff I will like it, JK. I was crying every day, and not helping my friends by being upset and confused all the time and crying in their rooms. So I left- quite depressed, thought about it, dropped out.

    Now I’m so much better. I don’t regret it. Got my shit together, got into another uni to study psychology (since they wouldn’t let me change faculty at my old uni without reapplying, possibly not getting in and paying 9k :/). I now know university won’t be the AMAZING BEST EVERRRR YEARS of my life, know to lower my expectations ( its soo not like the movies), but to remember that it is pretty great!!!!!

    People still don’t get why I dropped out and make stupid jokes, my mom thought i had been raped or some other over dramatic crazy shit and still doesn’t think I’m telling her the truth, and others just think I’m a rebel. No one has called me a failure, because NO ONE IS A FAILURE. people make mistakes. we all do, some of us just make more visible/bigger mistakes, but the important thing is we learn from them!

  2022. I’d like to drop this link here (a song I wrote about hating university)

    http://soundcloud.com/star-eyedshrew/the-universe-city

    I’m so happy I found this page.
    My university – a joke, I took music and I have never so much felt so inadequate in all of my life, I’ve been there for 3 years, having to re-sit one because of one of my tutor’s poor communication skills.

    I’ve made like 1 friend, who still isn’t very reliable and I’ve basically struggled with every step, money, health, essays and no one has helped at all as many times as I have asked for it. I feel like I’ve been bloody scammed and I think we should all make a mass organisation to GET OUR MONEY BACK!

    I also think it is unfair to base intelligence in a specific area on essay writing ability, I am vocational and think essays are bullshit.
    If I wanted to WRITE as a job then YEAH I’ll WRITE essays to prove I am good at it.

    GAAAHHHH! could go on forever.
    But basically fuck university,
    Thank you for reading and also posting this page dude.

  2023. There is a point in your life when you cannot stand coming to school anymore and I am reaching that point. I’m 24 years old and with 38 credits left and a low gpa that is embarrassing. I had a bad start in this University, with english as a second language, no friends , 0 motivation and only a romantic relationship that lasted about 3 weeks and now he ignores me (just perfect)

    The books I am assigned to read are about depressing literature that saps the energy out of you, and if you are a believer in God well be prepared to be challenged in all ways because is all about that and it almost feels like brainwashing….

    I procrastinate until the last minute and Im doing it right now because I actually care little about school work and proving the teacher you have learned crap. I am only here because the government is paying every single cent and my parents would kill me if I leave.

    But the worst is that I don’t feel anything inside, the american dream has killed me trying to reach it , if my home country wasn’t so bad I would have stayed, even when classes were harder I always passed with good grades ..yet here I feel like an idiot…with so many distractions and pipe dreams.

    I just wish that there was more opportunities for people who can’t deal with school instead of dead end jobs as their only option

  2024. Lancaster University (computing) gave me the unhappiest years of my life, huge debt and no job improvements to show for it 3 years after graduating.

  2025. I fucking hate essays! You get little guidance, even though I haven’t written one in YEARS. My tutor keeps bouncing me around from person to person rather than actually helping me…
    The debt sucks, and even with the full loan and grant you still end up on an anorexic diet for at least a third of the year. The Library is shit, I could care less about the fucking united nations and I’m prob going to end up working a shitty office job (If I’m lucky) after anyway!
    I have little time to do anything socially cause i’m either working or studying, which is just pissing me off.
    FUN TIMES…NOT
    I joined uni to learn and hoped to make more friends but most of the people on my course dont speak very good english or even make an attempt and the few that I do have spend most of their time competing to get better grades than me… and when I get better than them they bitch constantly about it! I’d go out my way to help explain something if they dont understand but they wouldnt help me because they want better grades. Grow the fuck up!

    I feel like if I get anything less that a 2.1 I might as well not bother!

  2026. Wow… good to know other people can’t stand University life as well. It is an absolute joke. They rob you blind of your (or if you have generous parents, their) life savings and refuse to teach you anything. All I do is memorize. MEMORIZE, loads of crap. Sorry but that is not how I am programmed to learn. I’m a fourth year mechanical engineering major and I cannot stand this place. I want to leave so badly, but I have little hope of doing anything but working fast-food for the rest of my life if I do. I love mechanical engineering, it’s interesting and amazing what I can do with it… But guess how much of it I have actually learned at my university? NONE! What I know I have learned from being part of my university’s formula car team (a program they barely support). I have learned from reading books outside of class, and from being shown by others on my formula team, but my university are nothing more than a bunch of give-a-crap socialists trying to steal everything they can from us.

    Assignments and lectures are a joke as well. I go to class (rarely) to be told what I better know for an exam. If my university had a motto it would be “we teach you to teach yourself” because they certainly haven’t taught me crap. I just thank God I’m majoring in a real science and not some kind of liberal art because I can’t even imagine the level of brainwashing and bull crap those kids are fed if I have to deal with what I do in a realm of physical sciences.

    The individuals and mentality on campus are/is repulsive. On multiple occasions I have had young women walk up to my vehicle and blatantly offer to have sex with me, or to ‘come back to my place’. These are not prostitutes, these are young college women, who are supposed to be here to attain an education and improve their lives… yet the expectation and demand of society (and thusly their desire) is that they come here to whore themselves out to anyone they can… to have some sort of a ‘college experience’. I will not even go down the road of ranting about how corrupt and disgusting the fraternities and sororities are…. it is simply pathetic. There is little decency left in this world, and certainly even less to be found on my university campus.

  2027. So I am here because I am procrastinating and though i would search ‘i hate university’ to find out if i’m not the only one. It seems I’m not, and THANK GOD.

    I f**king hate uni, i hate the people, i hate the lifestyle, i hate the lectures. I had a good first year but in second year I became distant and got really bad grades so had to repeat that year. I am now in my final year and final semester, I did well on the first semester but since Christmas I cannot for the life of me muster up the energy to work hard on this semester. I have not even started my dissertation which is due in around 8 weeks time. I registered for my graduatation today knowing that I will graduate with a pathetic 2.2. All i have is regret for this time in my life, and it is making me wish i did better in my second year as well as just give up. What is the point in trying hard when i’m only ever gonna get a 2.2. Or I might even end up with a 3rd at this rate because my last assignment was two weeks late.

    I want to go home and see the people i left behind… the ones who always look like they are happy and doing fun things with friends.

    I have 1 friend at uni and she isn’t in my class. Everyone in my class seems so irritating to me. I hate feeling hate.

  2028. Wow never thought i’d find such a large group of like minded people. Supposed to be finishing a stupid essay which i don’t even understand the readings for but ah well….

    I’m a first year student and I’m fucking hating uni life. To begin with i wasn’t very sociable but some how i deluded myself into thinking that things would somehow turn around in uni. They didn’t. Bloody work is so hard and i don’t understand anything but i don’t have anyone to turn to for help and no one else seems to be struggling as hard in the course as i am.

    If it were just the course work which was difficult i think i’d be able to handle it but being unable to make friends is the real difficulty. The Everyone seems to already have made the “close knit” groups which apparently would help us get through uni already but its just so hard to approach anyone. I used to think that everyone around me seemed so weird but now i realise that I’m the weird one… In tutorials and class it seems like noone even knows i exist and when i attempt to talk to people it feels like no one is actually listening. Everyone seems to be the loud partying type and my friends from highschool have already made load of new friends and makes it awkward for me to approach them. The only partying i do is mario partying…. story of my sad sad life.

    Probably just pitying myself at the moment but feels a hell of alot better getting it out there. Maybe i had too high expectations of uni life, i envisioned some type of fairy tale world where like minded friends frolicked in green grassy fields…. someday….

  2029. i hate uni, i hate the fact you have to suck up to lecturers in order to get a good grade FUCK THAT BULLSHIT. I dislike the ppl ave met in uni there all FAKE asses and all full of utter CRAP!

  2030. Yale is the weakest school I have ever been to. Seriously it is insanely weak. Everyone thinks “oh Yale must be amazing” but it is not. The accommodation is terrible. The department is weak. Social events are practically non existent. Everyone’s unfriendly. It is in the ghetto of New Haven (people are shot on a weekly basis here – not an exaggeration). I was at the scene of a homicide about 10 minutes from where I live. I’ve seen street fights, assaults, hear gunshots etc etc. It is insanely ghetto. It was ranked as the 4th most dangerous city in the USA.

    Seriously. Yale is weak to the core of life. Don’t EVER come here. It is all a myth. You don’t learn anything. It is a complete waste of money, time and life.

    Yale is weak.

  2031. uni destroyed everything

    I hope I get over the mental problems I developed during my time at Uni… What a fucking horrible waste of talent. Years of my life for what? A debt, a job I hate, and mental problems that make me not want to live anymore which I never experienced before forcing myself through years of FUCKING UNI

  2032. I lost my girlfriend all my friends and I have metal problems too only after 6 moths in college an d my aul pair wont let me quit I HATE COLLEGE. Ruined my fuckin life excuse me am of to join the royal marines and am Irish wtf….

  2033. What can I say about Collage/university and my experience with it, I have spent six years at the undergratuate level, as I changed mayors 1,5 year in original mayors which was biotecnology at University of Akureyri (in Iceland) its first half of that BS* program is just your High School diploma at faster speed (since my focus was on natural science), in other words I wasn’t taught anything new and, I want to learn new things all the time, and professors there are less than cable teachers, unmotivated and some even plain rude, so I wouldn’t recommend University of Akureyri for anyone interested in natural science. I was basically getting crap education for free since school is public school.

    *Bull shit program more accurate.

  2034. uni is brain numbing

    i hate uni so much.

  2035. uni stole my sex life

    To all those poor unfortunate fucks who buy into the ‘yes of course it’s hard, that’s why it’s so highly valued’ YOU ARE FUCKING WRONG, I could stand on one foot for 10 hours a day; I could fist my ass for 20 days straight. Not only are these things difficult, they would get me much further in life than a bit of fucking paper not worthy of wiping my ass with.
    on a more serious note: you can do something challenging AND useful AND won’t leave you with $$$$ debt for life instead of cunt gargling university

    I’m still at uni and want to die, just hope someone reads this and doesn’t fuck their life up more than I did KTHXBYE

  2036. University ruined my life,
    everyones out to outdo each other with assignments, my dissertation deadline is this friday – I havent even started so just gunna hand in like whatever i can do before now and then – great one!
    Depression – its not a life, uni makes you lazy!!!
    massive debt, overdraft, no better job = waste of time!!!!

  2037. I’m not sure if these comments are US related but yes, anyway, I’m a UK student at the University of Plymouth and I hate it.

    I can’t gel with student life, I stop and think to myself that 99% of students are dicks and student ‘culture’ is just bullshit.

    No I don’t want your fucking flyer, so fuck off.

    In fact the best piece of advice I have for all you people who hate university, just remember that there is always going to be someone worse off than you.

    I don’t moan with the intention of making my lonely, loser life generate sympathy, I moan because it’s good to get something off your chest, even if it is whiney bullshit.

  2038. I’m from the UK too, I go to the University of Westminster.

    I study English with Creative Writing, if you can actually call it ‘creative’. It’s all pointless essays and pointless tasks that feel pretty childish and worthless most of the time. I learn more going for a fucking walk than by going to class.

    I try and avoid going to class as much as possible, there’s one class I have where the teacher is so fucking shit I’ve attended less than half of the classes. Most of the teachers are failed writers who plug their work to you in class.

    I just feel like I’m wasting my time, I know I am, with a piece of shit of a degree. And since I’ve been doing this I’ve had less time, ironically, to actually write. I’d drop out but it’d be a waste of money. I’d drop out but I’d be a loser.

    You know university sucks when you learn more and get a higher value of happiness writing for a website in your spare time than being at or associating with your university.

    Oh. And believe me, you know university sucks when you have to sit near your ex-boyfriend for half of your classes while he mouths off all lesson and acts like the lovable charmer.

  2039. Yeah I’m doing English and Creative writing to, just about finish my second year.

    Reading back through my post sure does make me look like a whiney prick, but still.

    Also, I agree with the lack of real creativity within the course, most students can’t tell the difference between a standard English degree and the creative aspect, maybe one or two models might focus more heavily on creative writing, but its hardly what I thought it was going to be.

    Oddly enough I have a few friends and Westminister doing English and Creative writing also.

    Oh and just for the record, Uni has destroyed my self confidence, I was hardly a confident person to begin with, but it seems as though my chances of even getting close to a girl have been shattered by Uni.

    Or I’m just a complete dick and my single status is perfectly justifiable. Haha.

  2040. @Keats and @Tom:

    I, too, am a languages and literature student specialising in creative writing. I’m midway through my second year and am hating it. Glad to see that no matter where you are in the world, University professors manage to drill the love of the subject matter right out of you. Dull prescribed books, boring practical exercises that don’t allow you to express creativity at all, focus on French and Russian from the days of the dinosaurs and their semiotic theories and typologies, badly written study material.

    I’ve been wrestling with cancelling the degree for a while now, even though I’ve pretty much had all distinctions up to now. One of my current subjects focusses on Gerrard Genette’s Narrative Discourse, and I hate it so much that I’ve really been struggling to force myself to do the assignments. It’s like I’ve full on hit a wall, and can’t force myself to pretend to be interested any more. I started this degree because I thought it would help me become a better writer, instead it has made me lose some of my love of literature.

  2041. What a long, strange trip it’s been.

    Five years, five long years, and now all my coursework and lectures are over, after my final exam on May 14, I can finally put an end to this chapter of my life, and hope that it gets better, because if the saying that the best years of your life happen at university is true, I might as well hop on the train to Charing Cross and chuck myself into the Thames.

    4 years ago, I made a post on this website when I’d hit rock bottom, but I dragged myself up off the bones of my arse and with nothing else but grim determination, I’ve almost seen this degree through to the end. I haven’t made a single friend in 5 years, I’ve lost contact with all but two of my friends from sixth form, and I’ve got to a point where I don’t really even care anymore.

    When people say “Oh, why don’t you join a society, take up a sport, volunteer perhaps?”, I answer that I did two of those, and tried the other. Turned out that at UCL, the cricket society doesn’t (or didn’t a few years back) cater for amateurs, in other words, fuck off if you didn’t go to a school (most likely a public one) which didn’t do cricket where you might develop an interest. As for volunteering and societies, I did both, but people weren’t there for making friends, but to discuss common interests or obtain filler for the CV (admittedly my motivation too). My theory is that during Freshers Week, you get about 1-2 weeks where there is this mix of loneliness, homesickness and desperation, and once that period is over, then you get cliques which begin to form, and it’s a bit of a bugger to really get to know anybody properly. But I suspect I would never have fit in anyway, I’ve been to visit a number of universities in the past 5 years, and UCL is a really Sloaney and unfriendly place in comparison.

    As for the degree itself, the teaching varied from okay to beyond awful, one lecturer had to stop teaching the year after our class because the whole course was a literal copy job from a textbook, and the exam bore no similarity to anything which was taught. This was only highlighted by the optionals I took in different departments, where the lecturers were pleasant, engaging and actually taught well. I’m glad I won’t have to go back to UCL ever again in 6 weeks time, it’s like kryptonite, just being near the campus brings on a feeling which can be best described as a mix of dread and lethargy.

    So, as someone who has been through the grinder, I say stick it out and just persevere, one day it will end, and if your experience ends up being anything like mine, you will come out of it as a much tougher and resilient person, ready to take on whatever life throws at you once you graduate.

  2042. hello every1,,
    Wow..this post thing has been runnin for ages,, I actually posted on this exactly 5 years ago,, i cant believe its been five years. I remember I was completely lost in life, I was sitting in a service station in my car with my laptop with what little internet I could squeeze out of my Nokia n95 (the phone I had at the time).. anyway i thought id give a quick update on where i am now
    When i posted back in 2007, I had no idea what i wanted to do with my life,, i was completely lost. I worked as a salesperson, selling electronics and so on,, and i remember the pressure was unbelievable. I hated it, plus the pay was really bad. By the way I know I said i worked in currys, but i actually worked in COMET,, but I was paranoid back then, thinking that someone would know who I was.
    So anyway I made a decision that would effectively change my life. To have a shot at university… I remember I had a colleague who worked with me in the shop and we were workin on late shift together once and he said something that scared me, and something im never going to forget…”im approaching 40 and im selling kettles for a living”, and still remember the look of deep regret he had in his eyes. That was one of the things that motivated me to make a change..
    So to cut the LONG story short,, i reduced my hours at work and stayed on part time and resat all of my A-levels plus my maths GCSE, and thank god i got all the grades that i wanted,, and now im happy to say that i am a 2nd year medic student.
    so for all of you here that want to make a change,, MAKE IT, dont wait around because time goes so fast ull be hitting forty and be wondering where ur life went.
    trust me university is not for everyone, in fact, I have approx 5 exams a week and its constant stress,im up most nights studying frantically for the upcoming exam, and sometimes im so tired that I fall asleep on book itslef,but knowing the fact that im going to achieve something at the end of all of it makes all this worth it for me,,
    i think u need to find what you really want to achieve in life and stick to it, whatever happens…
    See me as an example,, I used to work minimum wage, with no qualifications to my name and now my life has turned around due to my own actions….

  2043. tom who posted earlier, couldn’t agree more man, Plymouth uni is complete shit full of arrogant “lads” and just all round general nobs, now i may seem like i’m the problem and maybe i’m just fed up of making an effort to get to know people but i know its not me, i have plenty of great friends from back home. Uni life is not what it is cracked up to be, whatever advice i can give is not to come on the idea that it is the best 3 years of your life, chances are you will be mightily disappointing. cant wait to break up, got another 2 years of this shit, i want my old life backkkk.

  2044. OMFG! so fucking pissed and hating uni, had a stupid group report 5000 words my stupid team-mates didn’t bother to help me so I was forced to write the whole thing myself, complained to lect/tut they told me suck it up and figure it out myself like fuck you! so i ended up finishing report my team ask if “I” completed it, the nerve! they read it and go you totally wrote it wrong and start bitching about it!! fuckers please I did the whole fucking thing! took me 2 weeks and none of you helped or even offered too even after forcing you! arrghh! still got shitty classes till 7pm tonight FML…

  2045. I agree with this whole heartedly. I am one of these people who has been sold the university delusion from childhood, that without degree you will fail at life. It has been the single worse decision of my life to believe in this lie. All that my university has helped me achieved is a pure lack of creativity and motivation for the workplace, I have no real life experience and ultimately find myself doubting my future and self more and more. Furthermore with all this comes the crippling realisation that I will be no more employable than when I started. Why don’t you quit? I hear you say. Well the sad thing is that I have been brainwashed so much that on a subconscious level I think I genuinely believe that without a degree I am a worthless excuse for a human.

    How I wish I could have spent these past couple of years building up connections in the real world, with interesting individuals and discovering what I truly want to develop in life, instead I am stuck with this ‘Mickey Mouse’ course. Unless you’re really interested in your subject, University is only worthwhile If you are studying to become a doctor, lawyer, teacher… I have been exploited by my university with one of their many makeshift courses , we have laughable hours of lecture time, unapproachable lecturers that display no passion or interest in their students and disorganized/unproductive lectures that basically involve shouting out your opinion left right and centre. We learn nothing of value, instead we listen to boring egotistical educationists talk about their irrelevant lives and then have them tell us how bad we are.

    It has all been contrived to rob us, all I will be left with is debt and disappointment. We need to stop preaching this false prophecy of university to our young, clearly not everyone is suited for university, you can’t just shove ever day average people into this machine and hope they come out better the other side, too many people are becoming disillusioned as a result. Instead we should focus on teaching work ethics and communication skills to younger children, not this pipe dream of an instant job, it is the ultimate distraction.

    Until my course is over I’ll get back to my ‘learning one thing one day and forgetting it the next’ ethic that university encourages, completely hollow, lazy and void of future benefit. One things certain it’s going to be a shock going into the ‘real world’ after this experience.

    We need start being who we want to be not what society expects us to be.

  2046. Why did I ever enrol?

    I hate university. I’m studying communicaton and it is the biggest waste of time and money that one could imagine. The lectures are filled with ancient pre-web theory that is totally irrelevant in a current setting. Even the “new” stuff that rambles on about the growth and popularity of Myspace is out of date. Who the f**k still uses Myspace?

    I did an experiment to see if I could get through a whole day of classes without saying or writing a single word. It was easy as pie. In the age of Google where the summation of human knowledge is at your fingertips 24/7 the process of taking four years to learn something the old chalk and talk way is pointless.

    The readings seem deliberately convoluted so some academic with their head up their arse can strut around the room with an air of superiority and pretend that the ideas from a handful of expired Frenchmen were the greatest things ever known. Of course you then have to regurgitate them back to a tutor as proof of your enlightenment.

  2047. I am so sick of it already. but i feel as though i cant do anything about it. waste of money and time and energy… it makes me feel worthless!!!

    i cant stop thinking about the government/ society and how FUCKED UP this world is. i fully believe our main purpose it to be happy and live our lives.. not study our lives away so that we can just get a job and work until we die. this is not living!!! i feel so controlled!! but i cant break freee..

    what to dooooooooo

  2048. Sam, well said, my thoughts exactly. Univeristy has actually completely ruined everything for me. I wouldn’t consider myself hideously overweight or anything, but i’m just outside of the healthy/fit range. I was going great, then university completely took over my life, now I find no time to work out anymore, my social life is gone and I don’t even have a minute to touch my XBOX anymore :( I haven’t turned it on in 5 weeks :@

    I just want to enjoy my life and have some damn fun! I’m definitely going to fail 1 of my 4 units… If this turns out to get even shittier, I just want to get an average job and work my way up. My Dad failed Uni… So i’ll just say i’ll follow in your footsteps. He’s got a 140,000 year job now so, I guess it’s possible. FUCK UNI! Also, $3,500 a semester is bullshit.

  2049. Not to sound smug or anything, but I am a smart person, in general. I can spell, I have a decent understanding of maths and, well, i’m just not your typical ignorant moron… I dunno where i’m going here… Anyway, I don’t get why I have to do this Uni shit. My parents made me do TEE in school, it was tough, but I passed. I then thought, OK, I can go to Uni now, pass that, get a good job, blablabla… It was going to be awesome. All the times we had school excursions to Uni’s with people telling us how awesome it was, how many friends we’d make and how to ‘Uni Life’ would be great… LIES! I’m a nice person, but a little shy. I talk to people, but, it’s weird, I don’t have any real friends, but it seems like no one else does either. Everyone in my classes are so up themselves, they never share knowledge or anything and always keep to themselves. All but one of my lecturers are literally complete dickheads who have no idea what they’re on about, or they are simply assholes. I dunno, I jsut hate this shit. Don’t even know what to do anymore…

  2050. I’m so glad to have found this site! I came home this afternoon and spent two hours sobbing uncontrollably but after reading through all these posts I feel so much better!

    I took a year off and was able to travel through working full time and save some money for uni. Now I’m here I feel like I’ve made the worst decision of my life, totally alienated from the people around me and questioning how the fuck I’ll ever get a job out of my degree. Then this bitch of a tutor contacted me today to say that because I missed one tutorial (which aren’t compulsory) where a formative assessment was due I MAY fail the entire course. WTF??? So it doesn’t get graded but if you don’t submit it you can fail everything? They never explained this and its not in any course material but if I point that out I’m scared I’ll be in her bad books.

    I’ve attended everything else and submitted all work on time but because of fucked up university admin procedures now weeks of work could be worthless!!! Hence the bawling till I was all cried out and motivation to search for I hate uni!

    But after reading through some of this thread (how long would it take to read it all!) I feel so much calmer, knowing that I’m not the only confused, lonely, depressed uni student out there. Now I’ve decided I just have to try get through the rest of the year and do well and if I’m still hating it, I can go back home and get job until I figure out the next step.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts guys, it really helps put things in perspective and made me feel a lot better! If only the universities knew more about how many of their students felt… but actually they probably still wouldn’t give a damn, as long as we keep putting money into the machine

  2051. I have learnt that some lecturers are hypocritical, vacuous, unprofessional, indifferent, rude, patronising, lying, confused, arrogant, inconsistent, non-accountable, dishonest and unreliable cretins.

    Fuck uni, fuck the mediocre tutors, fuck the assinine deadlines and most of all, fuck the essays. I am not interested in being a writer. I am not interested in being a journalist. I am not interested in being a speech writer. If you want me to write your shitty essays then at least explain how you like your essays, you ignorant cult of clowns!!

    Fuck uni until the world ends.

  2052. I don’t know about anyone else, but my parents keep insisting that no one will hire me if I don’t have a degree, especially since I’m black.
    So basically, I have to do bullshit and jump through hoops in college so some racist will consider giving me a job? FUCK THAT!
    Why should I bow and scrape and get into fuck tons of debt just to be considered a human by some ass wad employer?
    They’re basically implying that my life will suck because I’m black with no degree. I told them a degree still doesn’t guarantee a good job. Their response: You definitely won’t have a job with no degree. What the actual fuck. Why even try then?
    I’d rather have a shit job than waste money and life energy on a stint in college I didn’t want in the first damn place!
    Has anyone else experience this kind of crap from anyone?
    Also, I think my major is shit as well. I’m in the second semester of my sophomore year. I’m trying to major in animation, but I have to take all these worthless foundation classes. I’d say only one of which actually taught me anything I didn’t already know about art.
    A lot of the professors and students are pretty much pretentious holier than thou ass munches. They think they’re so deep and intellectual. Like discussing the deep philosophical implications of a postmodernist art piece. I mean, seriously? So some guy (Warhol) creating thousands of copies of the same image represents desensitization to traumatic experiences? They pull all this stuff right out their ass! And the students are even worse when they play along and try to act like they thought the same thing! UGH! Postmodernism is basically the Hipster Bible. And I fucking hate hipsters.

  2053. I’m at the most prestigious university in my country, have plenty of friends, don’t have any loans, have a part time job working with a prof, and I still completely hate it. I developed chronic tinnitus in my left ear because of the constant stress, I’m often drowsy during lectures (not that they’re worth paying attention to!) but stay up all night almost every night to finish some assignment, I constantly feel depressed because the amount of effort vs the mark given back…

    Honestly, from what I’ve seen, heard and researched on my own, uni is just one big scam. I literally learn nothing from my profs, lectures and slides are 0 help and I just have to learn everything on my own. So many people skip lectures because of this that its downright ridiculous. What’s the point of paying 10k a year when I could just go and learn on my own for free?

    All the profs have such a snobby attitude, everything is bellcurved, its really all a business just to steal your money. Why else was uni free before degrees became required for almost every job? friggin absurd. 3rd year and I still haven’t seen the benefit of it.

  2054. University careers services are a bit disappointing. Most of the jobs I see advertised do not require any degree and are the exact same jobs you get in the government job centre. Universities take your money promising grad jobs and then advertise jobs that do not need a degree. I might as well not have bothered.

  2055. University. A place to develop mental problems. Where any cracks of insecurities will be prised open for all to see. Except nobody’s looking, and having a good time throwing vodka down their neck.

    It’s a place where the attractive and the confident can thrive, and the quiet, and the anxious are brushed under the rug to rot. Oh well, let’s concentrate on the course. Oh, there is no course. Just a few scraps of information on lecture slides.

    I genuinely wish I was never born. Uni has not caused this 100%, I will admit, but it really put the nail in the coffin. I have no faith in humanity, life, or myself.

  2056. I think Im an intelligent, creative person. I never had problems having good grades and making friends. Until I started uni.

    The worst part for me is the mentality of people there. They are competitive, aggressive, arrogant and narrow minded. I am not like that and I always feel like Im the weird one. Just because I don’t step on other people doesn’t mean I’m not good.

    I will graduate very soon. I’ve never been so busy and stressed in my life but I will try as hard as I can to get the diploma and keep my soul.

    Sending love to all the uni haters. :)

  2057. I really regret going to university. It seems to be a place that exists only to make money and in return they badly deliver courses copied from textbooks, much of which is out of date, written and taught by TAs who couldn’t care less, and most staff don’t help students and are conceited and arrogant. Students are mostly rich kids who are snobbish, materialistic and superficial. Virtuous, compassionate, genuine, honest people are largely absent. Only the narcissists, bullies and manipulative thrive in higher education.

  2058. The epitome of my university experience, can best be described by the sound which I just heard: the squeaking of the scroll button on the library mouse, on the fifth floor… like that song Airbag by Radiohead, ‘I’m amazed I survived’… well almost. I have this one last essay to do.

    My story has been a difficult one. I entered the biology faculty at this university, which was 2 hours by bus, away from my house. mainly because my parents wanted me to. the distance, commute, and frustration of lack at social life, led me into a downward spiral of depression. my mom thought i was lazy, and so did my brothers..they put so much pressure on me…i eventually swapped to the faculty of psychology, because it was easy, did not know what else to do. don’t want to say i regret, but i never, ever, ever intended to graduate with a BA.

    not sure how this happened. Simon Fraser U. absolutely sucks. i am so glad i will be out of here…i struggled in ‘undergrad’ for 7 years…such a joke. i just hope, i hope to God, there is something better for me when I graduate (God-willing) in 3 days…just this one last essay…

  2059. What are exams testing at University? Each year my Uni tell me the same thing: “don’t try to question spot.” What they mean is “please don’t try to plan structured and intellectual answers to likely questions based on the outlined course content before hand.”
    Why? God knows! Wouldn’t this be a sensible and wise way of learning, studying smarter, not harder?
    Nope, not allowed. The Uni have removed the essay questions and hidden pass-papers from the students. The essays were the only constructive component of the exam, now replaced with 3 hours of repetitive short answer questions which test only factual regurgitated drivel from lecture slides. Add in some negatively marked MCQs to award mark grabbing and discourage judicious deduction. What do you have? A three hour exam that awards photographic memory, single-mindedness, dumb luck and parrot fashion learning. Gosh, these are key skills any advancing company would love to see in its employees.

  2060. @james I thought it was just me, plymouth seems to be full of wannabe lads. I find the people on my course shallow and annoying. I try to talk to them and have given my no. out to people but they never called back and I never got their numbers down. My course has an fb page and I contribute to help others but many people abuse it in a way that they are able to do assignments without doing much of it themselves. Sometimes a person asks a question I answer it then another says the same thing in other words but gets thanked, first time it happened didn’t think much of it but it has happened quite a few times and even my sister said they were being very rude. I have had ‘friends’ over the last year and all but one has let me down. People have tried to use me for work and pretended to like me and it has made me start to distrust people and be a bit cynical. I am quite a confident person but the ‘friends’ and my assignment marks have made me so unhappy and I am losing the will to live sometimes.

  2061. So glad I found this site. I’m in my first year and I absolutely hate it. This has been the most miserable year of my life. University has completely knocked my confidence, sapped any motivation I had right out of me, destroyed my self esteem and has ultimately been the most soul destroying thing I have ever done in my life. Believe me, I worked in an office for two years prior to coming here and it was a hundred times better than what I am doing now. I was earning, I wasn’t surrounded by pretentious tossers, I had structure and as soon as I left the office at 5 my time was my own. I was always academically inclined and uni seemed like a natural route for me – boy, was I wrong. It’s all ‘self directed teaching’ (so WTF am I actually getting myself into thousands of pounds worth of debt for?), dreary, monotonous lectures and very, very limited support. Feedback that is not constructive but instead unnecessarily scathing. I have full on depression and anxiety. The though of going back after Easter is killing me. I haven’t done a shred of work. I reckon I will fail this exams. And I all I want to do is drop out, get a job and start living my life again. I don’t think I can handle another two years of this utter misery, but I know if I left my family would be disappointed and I’d feel like a failure.

    University is not the best time of your life, believe me. There are so many amazing things you can do with your life. There is far too much emphasis from society placed on a shitty piece of paper, as if your entire self worth depends on it. It doesn’t. Life is too fucking short and nobody will remember you a 100 years after you die. So what’s the point? I wanna travel, see the world, meet new people, I can’t bear the though of being stuck in that shithole for another two years.

  2062. David endure. I am international student, I’ve repeated first year twice. My girlfriend left me , my best friend for unknown reason turned away from me – both on second year.Currently I am on my third year and don’t intend to give in.

    For all those hating your coursemates: find two or three friends which will be good support for you. Just don’t give up you will become strong afterwards – not because of university awesomness, but because it is shit and shit we must overcome. Slowly and slowly cling to life you deserve and want by overcoming difficulties.

    If you are shy become agressive, if you are weak become strong. Don’t choose your energy sources whether it is anger or kindness at this point here it does not matter for you, all you have to believe.

  2063. University= no life

    Although I agree that University is beneficial in the sense that it allows you to learn. Someway, somehow, something will stick with you even if it is the most insignificant thing- you will take something away from it. HOWEVER, I will speak for myself on this, I have no life when school starts. I am cooped up in my room for hours on end because of the horrible stress and fear of not “doing well”. During the school season I rarely, if ever, do anything for myself. I feel like I have to sacrifice myself for what? I get so stressed out to the point where I start feeling sick. Of course working your butt off does pay off in the end with good grades, but where will these grades get me? What happens when I want to relax? Well I end up feeling guilty every time I sit on my couch, I end up taking no time for myself, and I end up losing out on social opportunities because of fear. Of course I love success and feeling accomplished, but at the same time I want to take advantage of every moment in my life and University takes away from a lot of that.

    I hope it all works out….. eventually.

  2064. University sucks so much! i hate the people they aren’t friendly and the lessons take forever. People are such users ; willing to hang out with you only if they can get something from you. Some only act like they know you when they need your help.My course is so not organised and has been a waste of my time and money! I applied for fine art but i ended up being put in a mixed course ( fine art, architecture,photography,graphics) because apparently the initial fine art course I was meant to be in could not take any more students.

    I spend so much money on travel and material and hardly have any for myself. I’m always tired, lack of sleep, holidays and breaks. God knows university sucks!

    At the end of the day just gotta go through it to get to where i want to be in life and i hope things get better…

  2065. University didn´t give me anything… It only took from me some good things. For example, I study English and German. Thanks to my high school I had the chance to learn a fluent English and now? It is almost all gone, although I should be, allegedly, improving both of the languages. I am fat, depressed, stressed, I don´t sleep, I cannot workout and I go to work every now and again because I sit in that stupid school from 9:00 am to 6:30 pm and I think that my boss is going to fire me because he doesn´t believe me that spend most of my time at school and that only supports the lack of money. What surprised me and schocked me was the “qoute” of one my professors: “You go to the university in order to test what you´ve learnt at home.” Ok, for that I need 30 minutes, what the hell am doing 90 minutes in one class??? What kind of an idiot can tell you that THESE are the best years of your life??? I can´t wait for it to end.
    I am sorry, but the university study is not about the studying, it is only about pushing yourself through! Nothing else! Only the strongest individuals can survive, neighter the smartest nor the most inteligent ones. What is it all about then?

  2066. Guys, please do not de motivate yourselves. Surely, if you have chosen the wrong degree, you can still change it. There are lots of people would like to be in your place, but may not have the opportunity, so just make the most of it. I am a student and I am here to learn, to make the most of it while it lasts. I have made friends, some of them approached me and some I had to approach. So don’t be shy, just talk to people and you will be amazed that actually others can enjoy your company. We need to have an objective in life and to try to be pro active and motivate ourselves towards that goal. My previous semester I planned my days and set up study times and essay writing times, so I finished all my work before the deadlines, as I did them every day and did not leave them to the last minute it was stress free. Tip: deactivate your facebook and control your time and focus, be strong during your assessment period.

  2067. @lola. My university did not let me change course. The students in the course were very unfriendly and manipulative and the staff did not want to help. They gave lectures that was just reading off a textbook verbatim and coursework were just copied from free online tutorials and the whole atmosphere was demotivating, such as the constant naccisism, bullying and unfriendliness. I dont use facebook either, but that makes me stand out in a bad way with this lot I’m with. Quitting is a good option, especially when the costs of staying are so high.

  2068. I’m glad I found this site and see like-minded people on here. I’m an international student, and I’m in my first year Engineering. I have depression, anxiety and ADD, and uni makes those problems even worst. My first term was terrible: I feel like a zombie waking up, sitting on the bus, going to uni, sitting in the class, then waiting for the bus again and finally going home,… I didn’t even bother to go to class in my second term anymore, that’s why I’m about to fail my final exams. I think one of the reasons for this is that I don’t love what I’m studying (I thought Engineering is cool and will earn much money), so I’m planning to transfer to Arts next year and major in Psychology (which is where my heart really is). Uni really destroys my soul and creativity. The only moment I feel alive is when I get home, lay on my bed, put my earphones on and listen to OK Computer, and cry my heart out…

  2069. Ah. Luckily for the author of this post – you were at uni in 2004. Sigh. I absolutely DETEST university. Having worked for 7 years prior to beginning at 23, then thinking I needed to ‘further myself’, I have only come to discover how immature people are, and how ridiculously UNORGANISED these institutions are! My university couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery, which is sad (especially in my case) as drinking seems to be the only way to numb out the three years I am wasting of my life. I am studying Adult Nursing, which is particularly annoying, considering you don’t actually NEED a degree to be a nurse, you just need to be kind, compassionate and have some common sense and be good at simple maths. If there were ANY other way to qualify as a nurse I would quit now and do it. But I can’t. I have to jump through these pointless hoops to please faceless bureaucrats who don’t even use the NHS. I sit and have 1-2 mornings a week at university, and every other 3 months I have to slog my guts out for free on a crap ward (not of my choice) where I am ignored and patronised. I AM NOW DUMBER FOR HAVING ATTENDED UNIVERSITY AND ALL MY SKILLS ARE WASTED. Thanks.

  2070. I’m so glad I’ve found this page I thought I was the only one who was disappointed with the university life.
    I completely understand and agree with all the comments.
    I too feel that all my creativity has been drained, I was hoping to be inspired and fascinated, instead most of the time I just feel bored and stressed.
    I feel for all the people that haven’t made friends, ive made a few and they make my experience slightly better (sometimes) but most of time i prefer to be on my own. Theyre nice most of the time, they don’t understand me and I think they can be rude to me at times but i let them off for it. But i think they’re part of the problem, if im honest, I wanted university to be a hub of exciting ideas and thought and plans to change the world. I thought i would be inspired by my contemporaries and my lecturers, most of the time im just nbored out of my mind. And i mean that i am literally BORED OUT OF MY MIND. I cant find any reason to work, i don’t care about my subject, i thought i did, i thought i would find it interesting. It feels like everyone here is focused on there careers and, god knows what, which is why they aren’t as disappointed as i am, all they need is what will take them to the next institution.
    I thought this would be the place were i could learn about life, moving away from home and all that, but all i feel is disappointment.
    Tell me the rest of the world – of my life – won’t be as uninspiring, as tedious, as mundane as university life has been??

  2071. Someone Depressed

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5CVsCnxyXg&ob=av2e

    UNIVERSITY FUCKING SUCKS!!!

    No wonder why most famous and richest people are all college drop-out.

    Life teaches me more than uni does.

  2072. I hate, uni. There is no one that shares common interests with me, and everyone has a fake facade. The workload is too much and I find no motivation to do anything.

  2073. dontworyboutname

    We spend at Uni 3 or 4 years for a Bachelors Degree, studying shit that doesn’t even relate to the subject for about half of the course! I’m doing electronics engineering and you study motion in physics. i mean what the fuck does that have to do with electronics? What should be taking 1 year or 2 years, takes 4 daunting years of shitty lectures and for what? a piece of fucking paper! back in the days people would learn a profession under someone else and learn from them. there’s just too much wasting time and money. what do you guys suggest? a labouring job, whilst I do some personal studying occasionally in something i actually have interest in? man do you guys have any idea how much knowledge is on the internet and in books? seriously you could become a physician basically from just reading and researching and a little experimentation if you put just a little bit of effort in to it!

  2074. AnonymousEnglishGuy

    Computer Games Development Course @ Southampton Solent Uni

    First year didnt teach me anything or any relevance to computer games at all, i convinced myself that they were really giving us the foundation to code computer games. This was a big mistake.

    Second year began to get interesting as we finally made a 2D game from… tutorials. The rest of the course comprised of units that bore no relevance to computer games at all, for example: One lecturer whos job was simply to prepare us for the final year project failed miserably by indicating that creating a computer game with proper development and documentation was unacceptable when it actually was.

    Final year has had the most relevance to the course title, however the lecturers are F***ING useless, if i dont understand anything i’m left struggling trying to figure it out for weeks on end. One of the lecturers for my mobile developement (Smartphones and the like) doesnt even know how to code for Andriod and yet he offers it as a project…

    I recently had to watch prospective first years be given the bulls**t talk I was given, all the wonderful graphics, all the sparkly effects which are actually made by the ARTISTS and not the CODERS.

    To those who I though were losers dropping out in the first and second years, I salute you. You may or may not have know it, but you saved youselfs a lot of money and time.

    TL|DR
    Know exactly what your course comprises of, dont let them rope you in. Have a basic working knowledge of what the course will ‘teach’ you beforehand.

  2075. I’m currently coming towards the end of my first year in a foundation degree in popular music studies. I took a year out before coming here and think the main reason for me going to uni (/music college) was to make my parents proud. I have been playing the piano since I was 7, i’m now 19 and have been the whole duration of my course so far.. and have been given the title ‘keys player’ which is a load of bullshit. I don’t ever play anything ‘piano’ as such. I hold chords with a friggin’ string sound. I joined this course knowing it was a 2 year foundation course which I was quite happy with, for my parents to know i’d been to university and got my ‘degree’. Since being here a third year has been added on so I now have the chance to get a full BA (hons) which i’m not that fussed about getting. Now my parents think I should audition for the third year so i can get my degree in such a prestigious place. PRESTIGIOUS?! Everyone looks down their nose at me for doing a ‘foundation degree’. The teachers think they are all amazing but they are boring and causing my university experience to be even more hellish than it already is.
    Everyone at the college is fake and they are constantly trying to out-do each other.
    Uni life is no fun. I don’t care about getting the degree as this course as completely put me off what I thought I wanted to do in life. I’d rather move home, work and live life to the full. 14 years of education was bad enough, why I came back i’ve no idea..

  2076. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    Engineering is so fucking hard god damn I thought it would be a walk in the fucking park since so many people graduate with a degree, the professors just want to fuck off after every lecture and won’t answer questions and shit, you fall behind, ur fucked…

  2077. like many of you here, I have not enjoyed my time at uni due to stressing out over EVERYTHING! I have a few things going on at home for most of my time at uni and developed some kind of motivational barrier to study. As a result I have pushed away my friends, alienated myself from the people I would like to call friends on my course and fallen very far behind on a course where there is ample time to do the work.

    Worst of all the uni lifestyle has been non existent, I have in my 4 years of being a student gone out about 10 times max. So I really have not took advantage of being here from a social point of view. I dont mean getting pissed all the time I just mean going out and enjoying myself. Part of this was because I am from a middle class background, so the student loan system completely failed me, I have had serious debt problems throughout uni but because my parents earn too much I am refused help.

    It is only now in my final year after a placement that my money problems have evaporated due to parental income falling dramatically, saving up money on my placement year, and a lucky break with low cost accommodation for my final year.

    I am now in my final year, but feel like I am barely scraping by.

    HOWEVER, the skills I have learnt would have been impossible to learn in a work environment. Most jobs pigeon-hole you into a particular role and if you become to good at it you can never get away. What uni has done is given me the skills to prevent me getting stuck in a dead end job.

    It has also taught me a lot about the type of person I want to be, unfortunately I have struggled to fulfill this due to the problems I have had.

    If you feel like I do most unis have a counseling service, its worth checking out as they have given me someone to talk to and it is free.

    I have only just approached them in my final year but I should have spoken to them in my first. So if you find yourself lost with no one to talk to, ask for help, there is no shame in it.

    Uni does not have to be crap, but if you find yourself in a bad situation be productive and try and sort it out.

    Note that nothing you ever do will make your housemates be clean and tidy, some people are just brought up that way so prepare to live in a pig sty for at least 3 years!

  2078. I am in final year, I don’t care if I drop out, at least I wouldn’t have associated my name to fake people, fake institute whom thinks that they can control your destiny. Poor world when wrong people are in the good positions. The sad thing is that they don’t want to acknowledge it because they are scared of what will happen to them.

  2079. Fuck I fucking hate university. My parents and everyone around me advertised academic excellence all my life. My mom even beat me when I was was 7, for forgetting my books at school.

    I graduated highschool with a 95% average, able to get into almost any program in Canada. And then the show is over. I got bipolar, partly from the stress of achieving and HS, and could not go to school for a year.

    That year was terrible. Went through severe depression. I realized that when you are up and a star, people treat you so well, but when you are down in the dumps, you become a foot note.

    I go back to university and I now see the same overachieving bastards and sycophants. It never stops. Its like Chrisitianity, people are programmed to believe what is good and bad, without reason. Exams are all the rage, everyone is trying to get good grades. I can fucking get as great grades and scholastic merit as I want if I fucking cared.

    In North America, we are just trying to bolster our own names at the expense of other countries and the people around us and this is called fucking “Success”. Make shit jobs for other people by using the economics of their situations, and this is called doing them a favour. “I have made it when I have more money and bigger house and equally “successful” spouse.” I am so fucking sick of this shit, when the media is programmed to be insensitive and people can no longer reach merit because the wise know it is greedy. Then we are called ‘lazy’. Fuck you I have done more for others out of compassion than you.

    I am sick of people bragging about their grades and shit. Such a phony fucking system. What do you think?

  2080. How did our world history come to this point? We are all living in the system created by our predecessors shaped by history, players and random events.

    I am ready for a change. I want to walk up to the rich and smack the shit out of them and let them know they bleed and hurt like the rest of us.

  2081. I hate university because I have found that if I put my effort into giving the impression of knowledge rather than into actually understanding concepts for myself I am able to achieve much higher marks and yet finish modules without even a basic understanding of the course material.

    For example, I achieved 97% in an anatomy test (the only one I will ever take) and yet I could not tell you where the majority of your organs are or give you more than the briefest of explanations as to what they do. I got the grade by figuring out what resource the lecturers were using to set questions (a resource they had freely shared with us) and memorising the answers – many of which were completely meaningless to me.

    I am concerned that I will qualify next year without a fundamental understanding of my subject and that I could actually cause someone harm because of this! This worry has prompted me to teach myself some core topics but it is not easy to will myself to do this when I know my efforts will be time-consuming and not recognised by the university at all.

    I hate university because it teaches you exam technique not practical skills.

  2082. I study external comerce at uninove universitu,Brazil. And I hate university because I have to read enormous books and write long texts about subjects that I do not care a shit. Like laws. why the hell did they have to make that shit so complicated ?

  2083. besides I can’t sleep very well

  2084. Ive got 5 exams coming up within the next three weeks. Ive made my notes and starting revsising but nothings going into my head.

    Why the f*** is it so hard.

  2085. *sigh* Here I am again with another rant.
    University STILL sucks! I was able to drop a few of my classes without it effecting my GPA too much, but I feel like my work load is still too much. I have this ridiculous 4 page paper to write for an art history class! They don’t even prepare you for it. One day you’re just taking quizzes every two weeks and then BOOM. The professor slaps us with a paper assignment. I know it was on the syllabus, but the class doesn’t prepare you at all on what to write. And you have to TRAVEL to an actual museum and see the artwork you’re writing about in person! WTF! I don’t have a care so I’m gonna have to get my parents to drive me.
    UGH! The students around here suck too. The school discussion forums are teaming with trolls, misogynists, racists, and anti-religion bigots. If these people are the future of the U.S. I shudder to think what it’s going to be like in the next 15 years.
    I just want this ridiculous cycle of “education” to end. Most of the stuff I’ve learned I could have learned on my own. The lectures are basically 10% usable content mixed with 90% pure bullshit. The usable stuff could easily be condensed into 20 minute class sessions. Not the hour and a half crapfests I’m forced to slog through.

  2086. Uni and the story of my life
    I find myself graduating this year with a really good grade but questioning what I have learnt so far.
    Ve got the grades but if put to the test can I defend them practically? I feel like the past three years of my life were a waste!
    In terms of friends,
    Uni has made me socially retarded. Haven’t always been part of the crowd but it’s never been difficult to make friends as i had tons! When I got to uni, It was a whole different thing. Most of the people have their pictures up next to the word ‘fake’ in the dictionary.
    I tried making friends but it was like social relationships all evolve around getting drunk,clubbing and getting laid!
    I mean, it was outstanding how little people had to say when there was no alcohol in sight!
    I have a couple of friends and I think that’s ok.
    Am not trying to pretend to be better than anyone, but I believe there’s alot more to life that uni.
    Fron what i see, The whole process goes like this:
    Study from birth til your 20-25
    Get a job
    Struggle to put food on the table and pay the bills
    Get married
    Struggle even more
    At 50 you retire (if your lucky with some money to ur name)
    Grow old
    Die

    I mean, how can we actually live this way?
    Aren’t we all slaves?
    I believe my dreams are much bigger, I don’t really care if I don’t have loads of money in the end, but as long as I can look back later and be proud of every decision that I have made, I believe dat will be a life well lived.
    Sorry about my ranting.
    Much love everyone
    And hopefully it gets better :)

  2087. ‘At 50 you reitre’
    What planet are you living on, you over-privileged cunt?

  2088. I love this site, for my major im required to read a lot of books in one semester with a rather shady character. These literature books are full of hate, violence, racism, anti-religion and just dark stuff that gets on your mind. I don’t get why is so hard to pick positive books that enrich instead of bringing down our youth minds.

    It’s just disgusting specially if you love god and you are trying to survive in a college environment. I have been depressed trying to write long dark essays about long dark books with complicated long dark words when English is not my first language.

    I already have an associate’s degree plus two additional years of university, is that not enough? Do i really need the “bachelor’s diploma” to make it out there in a decent environment?

    I have 3 final tests coming up this week, guess what? I have not studied a thing and don’t think on doing it

  2089. Pissed off student

    I hate university. I feel the only reason i’m doing this fucking pointless degree is to get a job that will support me, so i’m financially comfortable when I graduate.

    I’m at a point that if I did drop out of university, I wouldn’t give a shit what people thought of me to be honest, whether they judged my intelligence, integrity or both. At least i’d be happy.

    I have one life, and i’m spending about 3% of it stressing out, doing a never ending degree which apparently is invaluable.

    In high school I use to see friends everyday, laugh, play sport, go to parties.
    All a faded memory now.

    If I’m not at uni, i’m working and if I’m not at work i’m doing an assignment with an unreliable assignment partner.

    In conclusion,

    I think I will move to jamaica, work on a banana plantation, smoke bud all day and listen to bob marl.. lives too short.

  2090. ohhh myy godddd. i thought iw as the onyl one who hated uni. everyone around me is OMG I FUCKIN LOVE UNI

    and im just like no. <.<

    i mean i guess its ok for them to liek uni but just having all these people shove it in my face that theyre in love with it in just ridiculous.

    i only just started a few months ago , after graduating from high school last year… omg. and im not scared to say that i hate it more than highschool. a lot. more than high school… and i hated hs to the point that i wanted to burn my school down and attempted to track down my teachers addresses to give them hell LOLOL

    omfg. no but seriously. its ridiculous. i hate it. i really want to just .. QUIT…. but being an asian that would be the last thing id do -_- i mean i dont really give a fuck about what everyone else thinks.. just … i really dont want to disappoint my parents :( i already disappointed them by getting a disgusting atar for my hsc examinations… omg. i dont want to disappoint them again…

    but i really dont think i can be bothered to put up with this uni bullshit for the next 4 yrs. its ridiculous.

  2091. I received an email that I won’t be passing one of my classes but I feel at peace after struggling with myself this semester. I have been stressed, cynical, negative, away from god, and just out of it and what for ? I already have an associate’s degree plus two years of university, is that not enough? Haven’t I slaved away my whole life to the system for this ballshit paper? I don’t want a super rich super life with useless possessions, just want to enjoy each day , and make every action and word matter , not slave away for a bunch of donkeys, im already sick with a disease that has no cure, what else do you want from me?

    I won’t allow an F at school define me or make me feel down, I have learned better than to tie my whole selfsteem to an institution that doesn’t care about me personally, but about my money this whole time . Even if I drop out I still wouldn’t care as much. I want to concentrate on being a decent human and soul, that’s it.

  2092. wow. about to go to university, being told that it’s the most fun stuff after useless school work, yet it seems like less than 1% actually enjoyed university!

    What am I doing with my life?

  2093. I fucking hate my course. I’m too scared to quit though. I have no idea what i’ll do. I’m doing music but now I officially dont want anything to do with music. I’m scared I will never earn money. I just want to live in the mountains.

  2094. What I hate even more is the relative marking scheme in Universities. How others perform affects YOUR result. This means that if others decide to be a total algorithm-running machines and recorders to record data on and spill it out on the exam day, then I’ll be forced to do the same if I have to even maintain a mediocre score. They can mug up anything with amazing levels of zeal and excitement because then they feel accomplished and “elite”. I don’t have a problem with that. They don’t even have a choice, really, because they are infinitely stupid labor forces. If they won’t mug up, they won’t have anything to do with their lives. So let them get acing grades and be happy with themselves! I can be perfectly happy with my score of a 61% But don’t fucking make me work like a rat-ass laborer and mug things up, study “selectively” (if you know what I mean) because someone else couldn’t care less about actual knowledge.

  2095. University is a place where people get bombarded with a bunch of non-sense, and of course you need to keep on repeating that information until you mechanically remember it. Yes robotic stuff, also the place is full with a bunch of cocky wankers who think that reading a few lecture notes and claiming to know them makes them really smart. Absolute shite. Dont waste your moneys for something that you can learn in your spare time. Go for the subjects that you want to progress in, there are plenty of certificates, apprentiships and materials that you will learn A LOT MORE than sitting all day in the fucking library doing fuck all.

  2096. It’s falcon here again. I wrote on here a few months ago, but need to once again. I am SO bitter right now because my undergraduate career is ending with a rather negative experience. My TA had given me false advisement before doing my final report a few months ago. I didn’t know it was incorrect at the time, so I took her advice. I recently got my report with such an awful mark! My TA marked it and said I should have used a different type of statistical test than the one I used (i.e. the one she had advised in the first place), and it hindered my mark substantially. I’m sure she didn’t mean to give me false advisement, but I have no way of proving that I was given false advisement on my report, so I won’t get an A- in the course anymore. I will have to settle with a B+, which isn’t a bad grade, but it’s really frustrating to have gone down a letter grade because of careless advisement.

  2097. I hate university. Im in fourth year of a civil engineering degree in Scotland and I’ve literally hated every second of it. I work for 12 hours a day minimum, I had 14 bits of coursework, 2 design reports, an A1 technical drawing, 2 presentations, a 15,000 word dissertation and to finish it off 12 exams this year. I’ve basically had no time to do anything so have been doing consistently shit for 4 years. I decided that working too much was bad for me so i thought i would just to go out and have fun occasionally which fucks everything up even more because thats an entire night I should have been working. No-one accepts me complaining about it as well because it’s civil engineering – a good degree etc etc, but it doesn’t make any difference because Im going to get a shit award for it anyway. So Im paying a fortune to grind through years of tedious bollocks that I have no interest in, denying myself any significant social life and getting driven insane by piles of terminally boring horseshit and all to get a degree which will be disregarded since anything less than a 2:1 makes you virtually unemployable. My advice to anyone thinking about university: dont. Just stay in bed with a big sandwich with lovely things happening to your lower half.

  2098. My arsehole university has given me 5 deadlines on the same day. When I asked them to change it, the only answer they could give was that it was the way it is, and they could not change it.

    My university is populated by bureaucratic arseholes who love nothing more than to give meaningless, mindless, repetitive bleats as answers.

    Is your university also a monument to bureaucratic, lazy, mindless, uncaring, illogical, moronic and pathetic little tinpot dick-tators?

  2099. There are so many fantastic comments on here. I’d just like to repeat a few here that resonated strongly, and then add my own ramble that I hope at least one person finds worth reading(!):

    I did I search under “hated university” as I’m not at university any more. Next week I’m making a trip to the town of the university I went to (in England), and I’ll be going to the campus to walk around for a couple of hours and see what feelings and unpleasant memories it brings up. I did not enjoy my time at university. My own prattling story:

    I was two years older than the other first years on the floor in my halls of residence. They were nice enough, but young, having their first taste of freedom away from the parental home, and they were nearly all very swotty and studious. I was very disappointed with the 20 or so people on my course doing the foreign language element (German). A few of them had never even ever been to the nearby European countries where German is spoken! They were shy and not confident to speak in the foreign language we were studying, so it was impossible to have any sort of discussion in class. I had gone to a rough state comprehensive school, was from a working-class background, and having got a place at one of the UK’s top ten universities I thought I’d be really quite low down in the university class as regards my German skills. As it turned out in the end, I got the highest mark in the whole year for the final German exam, even though some of the others had parents who were native German speakers. That was my one short-lived glimmer of academic pride. I had, admittedly, spent about nine months living and working in Germany, which is where I’d learned the German in the first place. It’s a pity I can’t speak any other more useful foreign languages, like Spanish …

    We had to do a dissertation which was 20% of the total degree mark. I *really* wish I’d known or paid better attention that instead of doing the hellish blood-out-of-a-stone dissertation, I could have done two years of learning Swedish instead. I had no burning desire at the time to learn Swedish, but it would be a hell of a lot more useful to me now that a shitty dissertation that I wasn’t interested in and got crap marks for! At least I would actually have a new *useful* skill, now that I have since got to know people in Sweden!

    The second year was very depressing. I lived off campus and the two people I moved in with had boyfriends with whom they spent every waking, sleeping and shagging moment, so I lived practically alone. The house was way out on a limb on the other side of town that no-one would think of visiting. I used to escape every few weeks to visit a friend at a university an hour away in a bigger city — an unpretentious down-to-earth place with friendly locals. This friend had been very lucky with the mix of people on his course who were a diverse, sociable, interesting bunch. He must have got sick of me visiting, but he sympathised with my predicament. Pulling into the train station back to my university town was always depressing. Third year I spent abroad and the people I met there are the only people from university that I’m still in tenuous touch with. Fourth and final year I had a hermit-like existence as I’d fannied about in my earlier years and had to cram about 60% of the whole modular degree into the final year. I got a 2.i. but I’ve never actually applied for any jobs or had to show the degree certificate. So in the end essentially it was all a waste of time, money and misery! I bought into the myth of the value of getting a degree, and I still now meet sometimes meet people who *didn’t* go to university and bemoan the missed opportunity. I make every effort to put them right and congratulate them on not succumbing to the pressure to go.

    One thing that has only been briefly touched upon on this wonderful page is that tedium and pointlessness of most jobs once people do graduate and do manage to get a job. I used to get fed up with the university careers department pestering you with stuff like “you might be doing your final exams, but you must fit in the ‘milk round’ [where megacorp big employers visit the university and schedule job interviews for graduate training schemes {gag!} etc.]. I really hated the notion of life and education being a series of conveyor belts where you plop off the end of one and onto another: School -plop- Sixth form -plop- Uni -plop- Career -plop- Retirement -plop- Death.

    I ended up never ever getting a proper job. I started temping and eventually slid into a type of freelance support work (completely unconnected with the degree I did) that pays well when do I work, but I don’t work very often — on average this year so far about three days a month! I don’t actually know when I’m next working! But as I’m a cheapskate and can live very cheaply when need be, I will be able to cover basic expenses till September, and I hope that some work will come in well before then. It’s a bit surreal — I sometimes end up in boardrooms of major banks and global companies with their board of directors, do my support job, and then slink off home to my rented flat. I get these weird glimpse behind the Wizard-of-Oz corporate curtain. And I sure as hell do not envy these hyper-super-execs for one millisecond. They have to sell their souls and lives to the corporation, living, breathing, eating, sleeping it. They get shed-loads of money, but I wonder when they look back in their retirement whether it’s all been worth it? The money might get them a fancier car (I don’t have one), a big house, and they get to travel first-class to fancier hotels and holiday destinations and eat in fancy restaurants rather then having a rare treat of a Sunday roast in a pub, but in the end I really doubt that it’s all worth it.

    I turn 40 next week, and if at the age of 20 I’d known that at 40 I’d have no mortgage, no car, live in a rented flat and have not much money and no career as such, I’d have probably thought “What a bloody loser”. But a lot of the university treadmill thing is part of the myth of “SUCCESS” that as Katie mentioned above ^^ is to get us to be compliant worker bees and be happy with our lives of 40+ hour a week drudgery. I completely LOVED Adam’s comment above: “Maybe there’[ll be] a huge depression and the financial system implodes, and we all have to go back to a simpler way of living – that is my dream. To just have a simple life, surrounded by people I love. A life free from loneliness and stress.”

    People are waking up big-style to the fact that the whole Western parasitic banking/debt house of cards is collapsing rapidly, and the political and social system we’ve grown up within and been indoctrinated into since birth is dysfunctional, seriously fucked up and it’s making a lot of people very unhappy. But ever more people are waking up to this and it’s very encouraging. I’ve been expecting the Big Upheaval for some years and I’m amazed it hasn’t happened yet. It’s like watching a car crash in slow motion. There’ll be tough few years to get through once say the global money system stops working, but life will go on, the sun will still rise, buildings will still stand on their foundations, the birds will still sing and crops will still grow. And in the adversity, there’ll be some really creative thinking and action coming through from some generous, loving people that will give great encouragement to all. I’m truly optimistic that through the end of that dark tunnel that we’ll all have to get through will be a brighter future where people WAKE UP to who they really are and what life is really about! I bloody wish it would hurry up!

    With good wishes to all, and apologies for the length of this drivelling!
    Marmite

  2100. Oh no! The comments I meant to quote disappeared.
    Here they are:
    :)

    @Kelly from Katie on 07 Nov 2011 at 18:47
    But, I have realised in the past year, that educational instituations are there to form us into ‘worker-bees’ i.e. people who live to work. (I don’t think I’m explaining this very well!) Society has us brainwashed to believe that those in life who are successful are those who have a degree and and an amazing job.

    Wheatley on 22 Nov 2011 at 08:01
    I’m in my first term of uni and I thought I was the only one struggling. I hate the way you know somewhere on campus are people best suited to you, and you could be walking past them every day, and never ever meet them. I know it’s creepy to just walk upto people and try to meet them, but why is there this convention that you have to be in a situation with somebody to meet them. When i walk past people on the footpath i often wonder if they actually want to talk to me too, or if they want to keep themselves to themselves, but if i say anything, that’s just weird and awkward.

    Wheatley on 28 Nov 2011 at 02:15
    The plan forming in my head right now is to go home and work part time in a bog standard job to actually get some cash, and teach myself what I need to know from books on my days off. Right now I feel convinced this would be more constructive than being here – it’d certainly be better value for money.

    Free Your Mind and Think on 08 Dec 2011 at 09:07
    College and degrees are another form of social manipulation to keep the masses subservient and enslaved to their masters. It promotes a lifestyle that suits capitalism and materialism. You can have 3 PhD’s and at the end of the day have no common sense and life smarts. Some of the most profound people that I have met happen to have no degrees. Think and educate yourself as only we can free our minds!

    Adam on 04 Nov 2011 at 13:13
    I’ve started fantasising about civilisation collapsing. My friends all come back to my home town for winter, and some kind of catastrophic event happens. Maybe there’s a huge depression and the financial system implodes, and we all have to go back to a simpler way of living – that is my dream. To just have a simple life, surrounded by people I love. A life free from loneliness and stress.

  2101. I dropped out and I am famous ^^

  2102. I hate University with a passsion! I am in the 3rd and final year and have just handed in my Dissertation which I must say was alright, not excellent but ok. Now Ive got a shittly programming logbook to do and got 3 exams, doesnt seem bad, but what a fucking waste of time its not like im gonna get a job with good pay straight away anyway.

    all this the things your parents, friends, government tell you about university and life is all bullshit. £9t000 a year for what? powerpoint slides? your better off teaching yourself using wikipedia and online resources rather than listering to stupid fucking lecturers who dont give a shit about you anyway.

    anyway if your nearing the end of your uni course just put up with it, theres no point dropping out at the end, if your just starting out and hate it, give it time and if you still hate it then consider quitting and do something YOU WANT TO DO! not what people tell you what to do.

    dont believe what everyne says about uni, people go just for partying really, in the end do you want to be in debt over a shitty piece of paper? think about it.

    an apprenticeship is better than going uni at least you get a hands on approach and seems more interesting rather than sitting on your arse for 2-3 hour listening to a boring cunt in a lecture.

    anyway make the right decision guys! i hope you dont get depressed like me thanks to uni

  2103. I feel like I’ve seriously fucked up in the last few years of my life, and going to uni has added to my list of mistakes. I’m first year at warwick, feel lonely and depressed most of the time; i can’t relate to any of these narrow minded pretentious people that all come from the same back ground.
    to counter the mistake of coming here, I feel like I need to stay so at least my parents can be proud I achieved something i.e. that I’m not a fuck up.
    I already suffer from mental health issues and for some reason thought uni would help them by making me more confident, better my self esteem and help me make more friends and get over my painful shyness. Instead it’s made all this shit ten times worse.

    It has also caused shit with the most significant relationship in my life. I miss my boyfriend and wonder everyday why I resigned myself to this low existence?

  2104. Hey everyone, about 2 years ago I came on this blog and posted about how much I hated uni life and how depressed I was.
    I’m now in my 5th year of a 5 year degree and all I can say is this:
    HANG IN THERE! IT GETS BETTER!

    I know it’s hard to believe but I promise you, it gets better!

    The turning point for me was the day I finally made friends with a guy who was from my area and wasn’t a total nerd/rich boy/anti-social etc. At school I was always pretty popular but at uni I just did not fit in with most of these more studios people.
    It was awesome to finally have a real friend that I looked forward to seeing and chatting about the weekend or whatever. From there I managed to meet a couple more people and now I’ve actually got about 30 friends.

    That’s the best advice I can give – try and make some decent friends. It could take a while (it took me almost 3 years – and I am a really social person) but it pays off big time.

    Good luck to the rest of you, I hope you find happiness in whatever you do. It’s so unfair when you work your arse off and you’re constantly unhappy but it will pay off, believe me :)

    Peace and love!

  2105. Failures.

  2106. @qwertyuiop: Blame the education system for being the failure here.

    I’m not going back to school again, I’m tired of grades, long boring hours opening books which had better been remained closed and not having a soul talking to me. The current education system is still based on the Prussian programming of the industrial times with a total disregard for multiple intelligences. Sitting for such a long time is not a natural thing for a human to endure either.. For this coming semester I have a linguistic class from 3pm to 6pm,twice a week guess what ? I’m not going, this is insanity, life is so short and none of this will matter when your time comes before the lord, I will tell you what matters getting right with god before your time is over because you never know when your soul leaves you and you drop dead right in the middle of any of these insignificant classes. This world will come to pass any time sooner or later, are you ready? Are you prepared? Apparently the school system is not, I will not support this place!

  2107. Max Brainstorm

    Don’t give people false hope, T-Pain, I’m in the final year of a 5 year degree and things are shittier than ever.

  2108. I found this page when I randomly googled ‘I hate university’ a few years ago. And, I did forget about it. Today I just googled the same thing again and realised that this had been the page that I found!

    In fact, I hate just my school, for when I was on exchange at another university, I even found my passion renewed!

    My university just kills my passion and my love for the subject with those stupid assignments that does not foster thinking. It is all about who can copy and paste the right source. There is no fucking originality. They teach us to regurgitate again and again. The culture is grade-obsessed. And, there are socially disabled nerds or I-club-everyday morons. So much for diversity.

    Well, I am about to finish my undergraduate degree. I HAVE FUCKING 17 MORE DAYS to complete the last examination and the 3-year programme. SO NEAR YET SO FAR.

    All I can say for people who are beginning to feel fed up is HANG IN THERE, FELLA! It is hard, but hang in there. You will always have this site to rant about it :-)
    And, to those who are about to choose their schools, do not do what people tell you to do, listen well and make YOUR OWN decisions so you will never have to bear but enjoy!

    Last but not least, fuck you HKUST!

  2109. I’m in my third year at Canterbury University in New Zealand. For those of you who know, we had 3 earthquakes in the last year and a half. Canterbury is a joke now. 3 whole departments are still closed, the main library has 4 floors operating out of 11 and the course fees have increased to compensate for the loss of 15% of the students. I’ve lost one whole year because of the earthquake as half my courses were cancelled and the other half were stripped to 1 lecture a week each. What a fucking joke. And to top it all off, the government has just withdrawn the weekly benefit that allows students to live. So I have to work a part time job for 30 hours a week just to live in a house and eat food, and on top of that do 30 hours a week of university coursework. I’m working more hours than a full-time job just to get a bit of paper with which I can get another full-time job. It’s all a fucking wank.

  2110. I must must must get through the next few weeks. I might die by the end of it from exhaustion and stress, but I have to try to complete the mountain of work that my moronic university demands. They don’t tell you when you enrol that they will be giving you multiple deadlines on the same day. Oh no, you find out when it’s too late, and you’re expected to deliver.

  2111. This is my third time writing a complaint on this website. I’m sure there are other people who have it worse than me, and deserve to complain more, but everyday there’s something that just makes me want to blast this fucking school to hell!
    Even though school is almost over for me (next week is exam week and I get to move out on the 18th) things are still going shitty. The professors–all of them–pile on big assignments during the last 3 weeks of school and the deadlines are all right on top of each other. I have 2 five-page papers to write, 2 exams to study for, and a film to shoot and edit. All of this is due by the end of the week. And the worst part is, the filming I’ve done so far is basically worthless. It’s a technical problem. The file format I filmed in isn’t compatible with the editing software. Also you’re not allowed to use any other type of editing software! THIS SUCKS!
    I don’t know about any other country, but college in the US is set up to make sure you fail. You have to do stupid general education requirements (math, 2 science classes with labs, english, art classes, 3 language classes and some electives). General education? WTF? I thought that’s what freaking high school was for! They purposely make you run the gamut of subjects to allow your weaknesses to trip you up. That way you have trouble getting into classes that count toward your actual major (what you want your degree in). That way you have to repeat classes and the school can milk you for more money. I FUCKING HATE IT! I hate college and I hate the US! It’s full of nothing but selfish money hungry assholes. It’s set up so the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor! It’s time for a revolution. But Americans are too fucking fat and stupid to do that! Even if they did theyre so stupid it’d backfire due to lack of planning! America truly is a third world country. It may look powerful from the outside, but it’s not. It’s crumbling and everyone knows it.

  2112. Every time I visit this page I see Beth’s post: “but i love university life. ah well.” Fuck you, Beth.

  2113. YouMadeMeLaughJerry

    Hahaha, Jerry.
    :*)

  2114. So, i’m coming to the end of my first ever semester at University. It appears that this is going to be the very first assignment in my life that I will not be able to hand in, simply because, it sucks. It seems nothing I work on here has any relevance to do with what job i’m trying to achieve through doing this course. I hate this shit so much. It’s so disorganised. And at the end of the semester, every single assignment for each unit is due on the same day, so i’ve got a shit tonne to do with no time to do it. FML. I think i’m just going to drop it, but I don’t know what i’m going to do otherwise. I did really enjoy being a deliveryman at the University when I wasn’t studying. Think I might just full time that. At least I had fun doing it.

  2115. Also, YP, the guy a few places above me, that is the EXACT same situation i’m in, except in Australia. I feel you.

  2116. I am going to miss one of my deadlines.
    It’s the first time I will ever miss a deadline.
    Worse still, eventually catching up and completing this deadline means that I will be late with the next deadline. So, I will be missing two deadlines. I feel scared, ill and panicked. I’ve felt unwell for a long time, but had to keep going, trying to make the most of this opportunity. And now, it’s all snowballed into an impending mess. Why did I ever go to university? I just want to be free to rest, eat and sleep. I want to feel strong and healthy. Instead I’m a crying, panicking wreck. I feel like a failure – if other students could do it, why can’t I? Other students have social lives and still do well. I haven’t been out or done anything fun in two months, and before that, for about four months. I spent all my time just keeping up. I did well most of the time. But now, I’m unable to move forward….I’m stuck in this hell of exhaustion, poor health, fear and panic. What the hell am I going to do?

  2117. Can’t cope: ignore what other people are doing and what they might think, and focus on yourself. So you missed a deadline – forget about that, because there’s nothing you can do to alter the past. Instead consider what you can do NOW, and what the best way forward is. Part of that involves not panicing because it doesn’t help. Try not to feel overwhelmed by everything and just concentrate on one thing at a time.

  2118. Hello everyone,

    Be strong. Yes it is very difficult but this is how life is. In my first year I made no friends. In my second year I have also made no real friends. There were some moments when I would stay up all night with a fever to finish the work which was due. Then I would not eat anything for long periods.

    This is a very tough challenge but we must never surrender and fight till the end to achieve our degrees. I have full sympathy with all of you who are suffering. Today I had an examination and believe I have done myself in but what is done is done.

    My message to you all is be strong and never give up until you have what you came to university to do.

    All the best my friends!

  2119. Hell Lightning

    I fucking hate the unifuckingversity!!!

  2120. Yeah, uni sucks. Beats high school in certain ways but I’m not entirely sure I’m doing what I want to and I’m still stuck in a place I don’t want to be. It never is the way you want.
    I guess because it’s the continued the suckiness added onto what you have already felt in life and just gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse. It never ends.

  2121. I don’t go to a university but I go to a city college. I hate it only because its not for free and since I’m paying for it I should be satisfied with my lectures. But I’m not. My organic chemistry class will be the first class that I’ll fail and I hate myself for not pulling out my guns and just study it by myself. I hate it because Im pursuing something I don’t really like but I dont have the guts to pursue what I really want. I’m trying to make it as a nurse only because it kind of guarantees that Ill get a job compared to having a degree in dance. Plus people who could make it as a dancer dont usually go get a degree on it, they’ve been working at it ever since they were little. I dont know maybe im just really unmotivated. I need something to inspire me to just become a nurse and be happy with it. Right now I might not even make it into the program since my grades would probably be so low. That’s a lot of money lost and were so poor already. I hate college

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