Why I hate university life

I was going to spend some time writing about why I so greatly dislike university life, but now I’m home I find my thoughts aren’t coherent enough to collect and put into words. Headache doesn’t help, nor lack of sleep.

Comments (1069)

  1. beth wrote::

    but i love university life. ah well.

    Wednesday, March 10, 2004 at 02:38 #
  2. Aim wrote::

    I hate university life too!!!!,

    people who have never attended university always say its the best years of your life and that you make your friends for life there RUBBISH!!

    im in my second yr, still havent got a friend to my name (long story)

    and all i keep hearing is how its about the education, which it is. but with no friends and no happiness, ur not willing to learn a lot are you?!

    Monday, October 10, 2005 at 18:32 #
  3. k t wrote::

    Yeah It sucks. I am so sick of learning. and people are so cocky and fake. But we have to do it, or else we’ll go nowhere in life.

    Thursday, November 3, 2005 at 01:07 #
  4. Omer wrote::

    I’m a second year Chemical Engineering student in Israel. I’m 25. I don’t know if I don’t like university because the boring uncreative way they teach, or because my state of mined. I went to study chemical engineering because I thought I’d like it. But I’m far far away from creating interesting stuff.

    Tuesday, November 22, 2005 at 05:37 #
  5. adi wrote::

    my potato is mashed. mashed to a pulp.

    unmash my potato, say you’ll fry them again. ungrill this steak you made.

    Tuesday, November 22, 2005 at 23:20 #
  6. ketsugi wrote::

    wtf, adi?

    Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 00:25 #
  7. Joan wrote::

    I hate university so so so much. I’m in my 4th year and I can barely drag my ass to class. It’s so hard to go and sit there listening to my idiot professors. They’re so fucking stupid – I should be teaching them! The assignments are ridiculous, too. The whole thing is a total waste of time, but if I don’t go, I’ll be the loser who dropped out.

    Friday, March 3, 2006 at 08:53 #
  8. Sense wrote::

    You wound not be a loser at all. Its about time people realised that just because you have a BSc or BA makes you not better a person. Many students should look more deeply into life and all it can hold without studying a degree. I realised in my second year it wasnt for me, I thought it better to be happy than drag my sorry student ass to another lecture of no interest. And i passed that first year with all marks over 70%. Soical order is the only thing keeping many at University. Many want to leave, but the pure expectation of elders and UK sociery suggests that a person who did not go to University is a person of lesser intelligence.

    Monday, March 20, 2006 at 11:04 #
  9. ketsugi wrote::

    I must say I find it interesting that a short 3-line post I wrote over 2 years ago is still being actively discussed upon.

    Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 13:39 #
  10. fod wrote::

    i feel the same way..maybe we hate it because we leave work to the last minute (like i do)..its frustrating..exactly the way i feel as someone said ‘i’ll be considered the loser who dropped out’ . i thought university was where everyone’s mind opened up – evidently it isn’t. at the same time i dont want to work in some low-end job for the rest of my life, and university does help to get a lesser low end job , haha. worse, my university is like a 1.5 hrs trip from my house. pure crap. its all about regurgitation and memorizing bullshit. but i guess thats the only way to learn, right? hah. who knows. i feel like im heading nowhere with this stupid degree shit. 5 hour science labs ? i mean, come on, its just getting ridiculous. i personally want to be a musician, but external pressures force otherwise. in fact i’d rather be a religious leader or something. who knows. lets see how i feel after exams..i used your site to vent, i hope you didn’t mind. best of luck to all.

    Saturday, April 1, 2006 at 14:07 #
  11. MAtei Clej wrote::

    FUCK UNIVERSITY!

    Saturday, April 8, 2006 at 11:48 #
  12. MAtei Clej wrote::

    OOPS. pressed enter too soon. uni life is a piece of shit. 90% of the peoplei wouldnt piss on if they were on fire. they do nothing to help you with anything. sink or swim. the lecturers are mostly uninspiring, boring, or contemptuous of anyone who isn’t a swot. good lecturers are a sparse few. Uni is ruining my social life, my happiness, my sex life (i.e. dont have one), my money, my health, my creative output, MY FUCKING SOUL. and for what? so i can have apiece of paper which makes me accepted in society as not a stupid person? FUCK OFF! FUCK THE SYSTEM!

    Saturday, April 8, 2006 at 11:50 #
  13. plasticbag wrote::

    how do we fuck the system?

    i hate university…iv only been there bout two months. i had it branded into me since i was little that i had to go good in school to get into university to get sumwhere in society. there has to b a different way. wtf is it?

    Sunday, April 9, 2006 at 18:35 #
  14. ketsugi wrote::

    There are plenty of different ways, but university is probably the safest.

    A lot of the world’s richest men are university dropouts, btw.

    Monday, April 10, 2006 at 00:27 #
  15. Disgruntled Student wrote::

    I currently attend a respectable university, and am in the top 5% of my class, but I have no fucking life.

    University has stolen my soul and my freedom, and every moment of every day I am just numb, as the only thoughts that run through my head are how to ace that next test, be it through studying or giving my professor serious head.

    I came to university to learn, to meet new and interesting people, and to grow as a person. NONE of these expecations have been met. Absolutely fucking-lutely none.

    FUCK U UNIVERSITY!

    Monday, April 17, 2006 at 11:00 #
  16. ashleigh wrote::

    i hate university. writing 4 reports on 4 things that i don’t fucking care about is fucking ridiculous. i hate university so much! i worked my fucking butt off to get into there thinking it was the light at the end of the tunnel. no one mentioned it was actually hell. you bastards.

    Thursday, April 20, 2006 at 01:50 #
  17. adam wrote::

    university is a fucking joke. i got a B.Sc. a couple years back and it has done me zero fucking good. I’m certainly no smarter for it. The true reason university exists today is that it is a fantastic tool for class stratification and social CONTROL. And by the way – i hate to break it to you – the tendency for society to dictate to the individual doesn’t end after school. If you want to be free in this life there is only one hope – lots of $$$$. How to get it? hmmmmmm….

    Sunday, April 23, 2006 at 01:57 #
  18. Bex and Cez wrote::

    Our essay is due in tomorrow and between the two of us we have one page of copied/pasted internet stuff.

    Last year we both did a year of Illustration which was hellish, and however hard we worked and pulled our fingers out we just could not deliver. We are both talented and creative individuals and failed that first year. It was difficult because we were faced with many outside problems – relationships and independent living.

    So this year, we thought the light at the end of the tunnel would be Fine Art. Not so! We are halfway through and cannot face another two and a half years of school-like institutionalism.

    We really feel like the losers who are about to drop out.

    Sunday, April 23, 2006 at 20:28 #
  19. me too! wrote::

    Oh! People I can identify with! OH I love you guys! I hate university (damned engineering!) and its killing me! i dont know when the last time i went to a lecture was! I get out of bed at lunch, or later… all i look forward to is dinner! I can feel my brain rotting and feel myself getting stupider every second. But i think i wouldnt mind if i was doing a BA. That would be cool…Mycreativity is dying. I used to think i was different, special, had great things to offer the world… now i can see i am worth nothing, as all those things have been killed

    Wednesday, May 3, 2006 at 19:21 #
  20. westcoastgal wrote::

    OMG. i felt my brain rotting too. Creativity, happiness, idealism, gone. Cynicism, depression, here to stay. Walk the walk and talk the talk or fail your classes! that’s the name of the game. I wrote a poem about it.

    enjoy.

    Retrospective
    I went to university
    And when I was done
    I spent the next 12 months
    Trying to unlearn
    Everything they taught me
    Because those ivory towers
    Are not the place to be
    For people who Hope to
    Change their world for the better
    At least not if you’re taking Arts
    Because what they teach you
    Is not how to find the commonalities
    That exist between peoples or ideas
    But how to seek out the Differences.
    It was never about our world, our problems,
    Or collective solutions.
    It was about what’s yours and what’s mine
    and drawing boundaries.
    And it really was not about asking questions,
    Because if you asked the wrong question,
    It could be fatal, academically speaking.
    It was about who could walk the walk and talk the talk.
    I took a class where someone actually compared
    Gandhi to Hitler, concluding both were madmen
    And he got a round of applause for it.
    That was where the learning officially ended
    And when I had to shut the book on so-called
    “Higher Education”

    Sunday, May 7, 2006 at 23:50 #
  21. Pete wrote::

    Uni work does suck, but if it was easy it wouldn’t be worth getting a degree and everyone would do it!

    If you have no friends at uni then you are in the minority, ever thought it may be your fault that you have no friends and not uni? If anything uni helps with all the clubs, interests etc you can join so make an effort!

    Monday, May 15, 2006 at 19:41 #
  22. Jeff wrote::

    "I must say I find it interesting that a short 3-line post I wrote over 2 years ago is still being actively discussed upon."

    It’s because we’re all typing in the same search terms at Google: "I hate university".

    I just chose my courses for the fall (4th year CS), and I felt compelled to do a Google search to find others in a similar state of mind. =)

    Friday, June 2, 2006 at 00:24 #
  23. ketsugi wrote::

    Amazing, this page is the third result for that search term. Small wonder, then.

    Good luck with your degree; I just managed to finish mine (at last).

    Friday, June 2, 2006 at 00:41 #
  24. Helby wrote::

    woo i can join this club, i hate uni , its sunny outsideandimstuckin myroom because iv made no friends for thefirst time in my life and i cant sitin the lounge because half of my flat mates have been the evilist bastards iv ever met, i hate it , really wantto go home or just disapear. this sucks, wasting everyday looking at sites like this because im so bored and on my own arggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh

    Saturday, June 3, 2006 at 00:08 #
  25. ash wrote::

    hey all
    its nice to know that uni is making other people crazy 2 and not just me. I am so stressed right now I cant handle it and it never stops as soon as one assignment is done you have to start another arrghh

    anyone i just needed to vent

    ta

    Saturday, June 3, 2006 at 19:45 #
  26. oz uni-s suck 2 wrote::

    australian unis r shit too. but it sounds to me like u guys all have a grudge against ppl who made friends. the only reason most of the ppl i no stay is 4 the social scene.i no ppl straight out of school.ppl with kids and ppl who are looking for a career change late in life but we all seem 2 get along ok. maybe u should try and make friends with ppl instead of looking of ways to getaround ur probs instead of through them. no1 said the work was going 2 b easy. what did u all expect? probs the ppl u dontlike r the 1’s who could help u out and make ur uni life betta by being a friend. go out side ur rom n talk 2 some1 in the hall. human interaction helps every1

    Friday, June 9, 2006 at 09:41 #
  27. KenStyle wrote::

    YES FUCK OFF UNIVERSITY!!! it feels SOOO good to be validated by all your comments.i have been in the system far too long. i joined a BA in Accounting and Finance and gave up 3.5 years into it, deciding NO i do NOT want to a bean fucking counter. Only to ace the entrance exam and get into law school, which i thought at the time before i started was ‘this is it.. i’ve found what i want to do’. Now 2 years later i’m flat on my ass again and realising that studying is not my thing! Does that make me any less intelligent? you try getting into law school! less hardworking? Yes, but why work hard at something you have no interest and cannot find the relevance for in your life?? I should be getting out, getting exposure, meeting people, finding opportunity and earning money and gaining experience, not stuck going to endless lectures and motivating myself to study month in month out when i know success is measured by tons of other ways besides a freakin degree…

    Which is why i’m dropping out, taking my real estate agent’s representative certificate and embarking on working life. MY WAY. FUCK UNI!!!!

    Tuesday, June 13, 2006 at 21:07 #
  28. Anonymous wrote::

    I too, despise uni. I am in my fifth week nearly and have made no friends. I sit in my room most nights just watching TV. All the people here are thick, arrogant cunts and all they care about is pulling and getting pissed. This is not my scene. I am a kind, good looking friendly guy but I CANNOT hack uni. Its depressing the hell out of me, I dont get on with my flatmates and I want out. Now.

    Tuesday, October 24, 2006 at 05:45 #
  29. syke wrote::

    I started my first year in uni and in 5 weeks i have fucking found this place is sum mental institution,… this shitt is a real bitch.I agree university is ripping my soul appart..i have got many friends but i still feel the way many of you do.. and u have literally taken the words out my mouth ,,, Dont push me cos im close to the edge!!!!

    Tuesday, October 31, 2006 at 00:17 #
  30. syke wrote::

    Eat a FAT Dick UNIVERSiTY… Waste of money and more importantly LIFE…I dont know why i started uni, but i am thinking it is because its the safest route to take.. like i said …… DIE SLOW UNIVERSITY, not now waite till I finish

    Tuesday, October 31, 2006 at 00:22 #
  31. Ellie wrote::

    I am more on the line of hating University because of the way ’students’ live their lives. I love my course as it’s performing arts so a lot of interaction with like-minded, ambitious people. What i cannot stand is the way students go about behaving. In my first 6 weeks at Uni I’ve had my windows smashed, threatened by drunk fucks, a guy OD on a nice drug cocktail and my bedroom door kicked in. Now if this is the behaviour of the country’s future lawyers, doctors and teachers, our society is facing a pretty dismal future.
    What fucks me off the most though, is that because of these braindead fuckwits I may end up leaving my course, there is no justice left in this world.

    Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 09:11 #
  32. uniisgay wrote::

    i have been at uni 2 months now, i have made friends with a few people who arnt on my actual course because everyone on my course is a fucking imature prick who hasnt got a clue. I took a year out before coming to univeristy and got a taste of what goes on in the real world. I am a musician and made the stupid decision to take a degree in music. You cant fucking teach improvisation and creativity in writing music. I played with pro musicians in London in my time out from education and learnt so much by hanging out with people twice my age who have made a career from playing music and dont have degrees but are perfectly happy, interesting people with a story to tell. Since being at this shithole of a university i feel like i have been robbed of my creativity and my inspiration to play music. People on my course are uninspiring kids who have no musical talents nor had any life experiences that show in there music. They dont love the music, they go out to shitty clubs which are the very thing that is destroying the music they are supposed to be studying. These kids are coming from rich familys, fresh out of school, hoping to tick all the boxes and get the marks to please there dickhead parents. I believe the world is going to shit. How can it possibly survive with the next generation of university educated pricks? The lectures teaching at my university are proof that having the very degree they are teaching me gets you knowhere – why arnt they out making lots of money? because they are in £15,000 worth of debt owed to mr blair and for what? so they can stand at the front of a lecture room and read from a book?

    Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 00:04 #
  33. MW wrote::

    Well I’m glad at least other people feel the way I do. The most annoying thing about univeristy to me is how god damn disorganised the teaching seems to be. My department is 3rd best in the UK and still it takes forever to get our marks back,I’m convinced they scan read the papers and make the grades up. Worst of all there seems to be no correlation between how hard you study & the grades you get. I accept that if you do no work you will fail. But working your ass off can be awarded from anything from A to D grade. It seems a complete lottery to me. I cant wait to leave university.

    Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 00:32 #
  34. Silver wrote::

    We have all been conditioned from the age of 4 to believe that the firther we go in education the firther we go in life. its supposed to become more inspiring, more empowering as we climb the academic ladder….Unfortunately, as with many of you, I worked my ass off with that dream in mind and Im finally here, at University, doing a very respected course…and it sucks. I hate it here, its costing me a huge amount of money to waste three years of my life in a place full of self-perpetutating self-congratulating bullshit. Unfortunately, if I drop out everyone will think Im a loser, and wonder why I fell at the ‘final hurdle’. If my degree is worth fuck all at the end of all this, Im buying a gun and shooting alot of people. There is so much more to life than this, there has to be.

    Monday, November 6, 2006 at 02:32 #
  35. Halli wrote::

    OMG YESSS. I’m in my second year of a four year Social Work Course. I HATE IT. For the first time in my life I have almost no more friends since we’ve all grown up to be different people who don’t click anymore. I’m from Canada so it can get pretty fucking cold here and trekking to school in 7 in the morning when its the middle of winter and is dark as hell to go to a class full to learn a degree I hate to get a job which I think I may or may not like is the most depressing thing in the world. I’m in the darkest place in my life right now and sometimes wonder how I still come off so cheerful and friendly. But anymore time in Uni and I think it just might sink me. I’m of an ethnic background and ‘need’ to make friends and boyfriends from my same cultural background but its hard as hell too try to connect with them since I grew up away from these people and am not 100% fluent in my naive tongue (which I’m still learning). I don’t feel Uni is something I want to spend more time on but I would get hell if I didn’t go through with it. “its a great degree – your lucky to have gotten into it” they all say, but I’m so fucking unhappy and I’m someone who is easily pleased. I’m not connecting at all with the people in my program and my program and uni in general – its getting in the way of the many personal issues I want to sort out. I am so confused on what to do and If I leave, where do I go and what do I do? I spend stress filled nights thinking and overthinking, I’ve never been unhappy until now and I know that everyday of life shouldn’t be wasted on shit that feeds on your very soul. FUCKING HELL!

    Tuesday, November 7, 2006 at 03:33 #
  36. smee wrote::

    im a few weeks into my second year now and I’m facing quite a predicament. My first year was an odd one, very troubling at times – bouts of loneliness and reflection and all that. was gunna drop out after the first term but decided to stick at it for the bit of paper at the end. Towards the end of the year everything was buzzing, i was so happy and confident, the sun was shining so brightly. went on to have the best summer. Had a bit of a funny one towards the end of summer as second year impended, and its been going on ever since. found out recently that 2 of my essays failed to make the grade so now i have to do the first year over again. I live in a house quite far away from the student centre if u know wot i mean and have found myself slipping into quite a reclusive state, becoming distanced from even the closest of my friends, who seem to be getting on with things niceley. I’m quite ashamed of my failing first year and now i’m questioning whether or not i should stay and do it just for the sake of a degree. wot is even worse is that my course is a drama degree – last year i witnessed so much bitching and backstabbing. this still goes on amongst the class of second year, but they have toned it down slightly. to have to go back a year and go through all of this again is not an appealing thought.There are lots of things that i would like to do should i decide to drop out and go back home but i fear it would be way more depressing since home life stifles me even in short bouts during the holidays. i understand that university is about planning for ur future, but at the moment i just feel like im becoming a bit of a recluse, paranoid that noone really wants me around that much. i know this is just paranoia and perhaps in a few years i’ll look back on it and laugh.I just hope i wont be laughing from a cave somewhere in the alps. Right now though, i feel terrible. i slept until 6 today, missing 2 appointments i had.feel like im turning into a parody of myself. im not looking for sympathy, i know i could have got out of bed if i had tried, with nothing to do im losing motivation to see anyone or do anything. during the summer i felt amazing, now i go through pretty bad mood swings, one moment feeling fine, the next, crappy.

    Wednesday, November 8, 2006 at 05:56 #
  37. H wrote::

    im so pissed off. Been at this uni (liverpool) for what 6 weeks and bored shitless out of my mind. I hate it here, people are narrow minded and dont seem to have any depth. Theres too much fakeness and i havent madeone decent friend.. I am a sociable person and make friends easily but its absolute bollocks. Best time of your life!I feel like my heads being twisted and churned into common crap and everyones so into themselves they cant see whats around them. Now all i want to do is sleep. Is this it, is this the palce im going to spend the next 3 years of my life and is this how im going to feel. Fucking crap throughout. You dont need uni to go far in life i know that but life here is shit without friends.

    Wednesday, November 8, 2006 at 07:42 #
  38. Ashleigh wrote::

    I hate uni, im in my 1st year at liverpool, ive got no money, i hate my course and the people here think they are somebody…Iv got like 1 person who i can really speak to here.Im usually confident and dead friendly,and thought id make loads of friends, but no i havent..i think is it me that they just dont like? I feel so depressed and i just wanna drop out, but thn ive got ppl wuestioning me on why i did, and th family wouldnt be happy…can life seriously get any worse? Another tihng is that i work too, and quite alot of ppl at uni dont but theyre still managing to go out and piss money up against a wall..its so frustrating :’(

    Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 04:06 #
  39. h wrote::

    lol u frm liverpool 2…its shite, whre you stayin if u eva kum here again

    Monday, November 13, 2006 at 04:18 #
  40. FUCK UNIVERSITY wrote::

    “Worst of all there seems to be no correlation between how hard you study & the grades you get. I accept that if you do no work you will fail. But working your ass off can be awarded from anything from A to D grade. It seems a complete lottery to me. I cant wait to leave university.”

    sOOO fucking true. I’m full of bitterness because of university. I’m filled with bottled up anger and stress. I swear, I am going to just blow up one day and my university will feel my wrath.

    University is seriously ruining me. It’s sucking the JOY out of my life. University is just a stupid, overly -competitive fucking shithole.

    It’s turning me into an emo, and possibly a suicide bomber :@ All I daydream about is blowing up the fucking building

    Sunday, November 26, 2006 at 13:39 #
  41. FUCK UNI wrote::

    I hate people in university. they are fake, competitive, cold hearted bastards who do nothing but suck up to profs. grad students are the most pathetic people on earth. stay in school till I’m 30 and the only interaction I get is with the Help paperclip in Microsoft Word? FUCK THAT. UNIVERSITY IS HELL.

    Choose LIFE.
    Choose a job.
    Choose a starter home.
    Choose dental insurance, leisure wear and matching luggage.
    Choose YOUR future.

    Sunday, November 26, 2006 at 13:49 #
  42. N wrote::

    the problem with university is that it looks for PARTICULAR type of people – people who actually love the misery of doing boring research and endless studying. if THIS isn’t you, you are going to have a very hard time in university. university makes you feel dumb and worthless. university makes you feel like you are never good enough for its standards. don’t blame youself. grades are just numbers. they don’t mean SHIT. they don’t define WHO you are and WHAT you are capable of.

    Sunday, November 26, 2006 at 13:55 #
  43. Liverpool Artist wrote::

    I’m fucking miserable and so close to throwing in the towel on not just Uni but the subject of study I use to be so passionately interested in.

    It’s second year of my course and we still have no freedom to create work we originally signed up hoping to create. The assignments, grading all exist to make the tutor’s lazy arsed jobs easier and to kill our spirit. I know exactly who are the true failures each time I enter that place and see their grinning faces.

    I feel I’m stuck here to the end and my grades are suffering through the hatred of the situation. I can’t approach these brief with positive thoughts no longer and it’s too difficult now to explain to parents and family that I want to quit. I’ve wasted more of my own time trying to pursue an artist career and thrown away their money.

    I’ve never felt so hopeless and cheated in my life. I wish the place burns down and theres a glitch with the banks accounts so I’m refunded as some compensation.

    Monday, November 27, 2006 at 12:11 #
  44. Babe_bamboo wrote::

    I am so thankful for this website.

    I work so hard at this. I try more than anyone I used to know at highschool. I was a straight A student.

    Now I feel worthless. I’m working my hardest and it feels like I’m going nowhere. Like I’m not appreciated and never good enough. Like I’m just a number, another paper to mark.

    I’m not angry towards university, just sad. Sad that I can’t paint and be who I know I am. I signed up for this though. It’s the only option I have. I don’t want to be a failure in my family’s eyes or my own so I continue.

    Like all of you I’m drained.
    No friends, no energy, no modivation.
    None of me is left.

    Thursday, November 30, 2006 at 15:44 #
  45. howtokillcrapunis? wrote::

    Found via google also :)

    I feel cheated more than anything. I’ve learnt absolutely nothing as a result of being at uni. The lecturers say “Uni is about teaching yourself”. So why the fuck go to uni then? We pay however many 1000’s of

    Sunday, December 3, 2006 at 08:30 #
  46. sickoflearning wrote::

    I’m up to my 12th week of the first semester and looking forward to an evening of deciphering yet another poorly written and unexplained homework in for tomorrow. University has killed all my interest in what i thought was my passion in life. It seems to be totally geared up to a different kind of person, a different kind of person to 90% of the attendees there. Lecturers are arrogant and claim to want to ‘help you in anyway possible’, this seems mostly pointless when their initial teaching methods do very little to explain the material and the best teaching i get is from the few students who can actually understand whats going on. I’m so tired during the day from the previous day at uni (i have a few solid days of work rather than spread across the week) and the lectures are so dull that i often drift off completely and fall asleep. I totally agree that the ‘teach yourself’ attitude is complete bullshit when i’m paying them 3k to do that job. It annoys me when i can see a lot of the exercise material referenced from the internet (I’m doing a computing course), if i wanted to do an open university course id buy Java for dummies and sit down for 6 months and do one. Credit to my subject, my actual COURSE module is brilliant, but my necessary core modules are absolutely uninspiring and on the most part, badly taught. If i had no parents with hopes resting on me i would fucking kick the bucket with university in an instant.

    Wednesday, December 6, 2006 at 02:39 #
  47. Caz wrote::

    Wow, finally people that can understand how I feel about university. I am in my 3rd year of 4, and don’t think I can stand it any longer. I hate my course, even though I thought it was what I wanted to do as a career, I hate being away from home and from my family and REAL friends, and I hate always being overdrawn! I am currently 6 days from the end of another term, but feel so weak and lonely that I don’t even know if I can make it that far. God knows how I’ve even made it to here.

    I too did a Google search for I hate university – and what a fantastic site, full of like-minded people who understand what a pile of shit university really is. I don’t wanna be ‘one of those losers that dropped out’ either – but it’s looking increasingly appealing.

    My heart goes out to all of you feeling the same way as me – well, the parts of it that haven’t died, anyway.

    Thursday, December 7, 2006 at 19:58 #
  48. max wrote::

    Yup, I’m not enjoying life at all. In my first year, only have a few friends. Everyone is on crack here, my flat is shit, my flatmates deserve to be firebombed in the face, everyone is so fake and I’m away from my REAL friends. What also pisses me off is that all my old friends seem to be having a much better time than me! :@

    If this place burned to the ground (empty of people of course, except my flatmates), I’d laugh and dance

    Monday, December 11, 2006 at 10:24 #
  49. Matt wrote::

    “It’s turning me into an emo and possibly a suicide bomber” this one made me laugh until I was crying. To think 4 years ago I use to be an ordinary human and then like so many others I enrolled into B.A. Over the years I became more and more pale and sickly, depressed, neurotic, reclusive, lost all my freinds and now I’m on my third fucking lot of anti-depressants, apparently SSRI’s are not sufficent to counter the utter despair that uni induces. The thing is I use to love literature, I use to write poetry, now anything containing words has been eclipsed in semiotics, deconstruction, psychoanalysis, structuralism, hermeneutics, pragmatics.. etc, even when I walk passed a billboard I start fucking deconstructing it, I can’t help it like many a longterm prisoner I’ve became institutionalized. And now that I’m finished my degree I screwed. I developed a kind of stockholm syndrome, I neeeed to go back to uni despite the fact that the very buidings, the students, the course books bring vomit to my lips. I’ve became autistic now, I can only hold a conversation with people who read Kant and Husserl, the ‘real’ world without mediation through theory, and long ponderous philosophizing is too jarring for me. And now the only thing left for me to do is to go back and do a postgrad and become… a lecturer. I mean university has reduced me to this I have no other option, I’ve became to weak and anemiac to work I can only turn pages. It’s pure perversity that inspires me onwards of course, the only thing that academics hate more then their students is other academics, and one imagines there is a fair degree of self-loathing too. If you want to see how despicable academia truly is get the inside view from this lecturer: http://www.kevinboone.com/university.htm

    my favourite quote is: “After nine years in the business I feel I can say quite categorically that lectures are mostly a waste of time for most students” a sentiment I’m sure all honest students will agree with.

    Monday, December 11, 2006 at 18:18 #
  50. Kelly wrote::

    I typed in to google ‘I hate University’ and got this cool site! I am in my 12th week of Uni, the last week before the Christmas holidays, so I made it through one term nearly, but have been diagnosed as clinically depresssed, on my second lot of antidepressants, cry every day, have lost all passion I had for my subject Psychology and feel like I have very few friends to my name. All these people saying ‘join clubs, talk to people’ have no idea what they are talking about, seriously, if you are going to offer thay sort if shitty common sense repetitive advice, keep it to yourself. Ive made such a big effort to keep on top of work and have a great social life and have appeared to fail both. I live about an hour or so away and spend a lot of time and money going home as much as possible so as not to stay here in this lonely, hostile place. Next year I am commuting, definately, I don’t care how hard it may be, it can’t be as bad as this. Yeah, the being away from my family is the hardest part for me, I am close to them, and the fact I could be happy with them but have chucked that to be here kills me. I also hate the way we are taught, the fucking money snatching way Uni is run and the sheer ignorance of some of the people here. I actually thought I might not be smart enough to come here, how wrong I was…I wonder how some of these kids got in with their ridiculous attitude and childish ways. Lecturers are rude and patronising, assignments teach me nothing and I have lost interest in a subject I once loved. Yet..How can I drop out? I will dissapoint everyone, I will be the ‘one who dropped out’, the ‘one without a degree’ and also I will get to spend less time with my boyfriend as we are long distance and If I am working I won’t get the holidays to spend with him. University is a shithole and the government are all pricks. I was practically forced in to this by my school and I want out.

    Monday, December 11, 2006 at 19:03 #
  51. save me wrote::

    Going to uni has made me loose everything. My friends, life and my mind. Now 2 years in if I quit ill loose my family as well. I’ve just finished a work placement for my dream job who informed me that as my uni has decreased my learning by removing staff they ‘can’t afford’ my degree will mean nothing. I suppose I’m looking for a miracle. I agree about those idiots who give useless ideas of join clubs, you either came to uni with a group of friends or you fit into society like oh so many fish that swim with the tide. For those who are franticly paddling to keep a float….I hope we don’t drown.

    Tuesday, December 12, 2006 at 11:34 #
  52. kelly wrote::

    I have also lost my freinds, life and mind and will be in the same position as you family wise if I drop out. I hate that people expect things of me. Why the hell should they, yeah so I did well in school, that doesnt mean they can choose my future for me. If Love really existed Universities wouldn’t! ‘Higher education’ in my mind is full of low lifes and anyone looking forward to uni should think again. I also have a massive problem with the whole ‘Oxford/Cambridge’ thing..seriously..don’t get me started on those bastards.

    Tuesday, December 12, 2006 at 19:02 #
  53. annoyed wrote::

    arrrghhhhhh im so pissed off with uni too! i also did the google search! i have shit loads to hand in 2morro , i can’t be arsed i am doing an arts course and we have to do tons of writing it really fucks me ofF, all i want to do is the art side of it NOT ALL THIS WRITING RESEARCH FUCKING BULLSHIT WASTE OF TIME BOLLOX. im seriously thinking about dropping out i can’t handle it anymore either im in fourth year now ! i already have a bloody degree but it’s still not enough for everyone to get off my fucking back.
    all i want to do is travel and use what i have learned but do it in my own way but i feel pressured from everyone to do this. i have also lost my sanity and on anti -depressents, and what annoys me even more is that this university shite is ment to fucking open our options in life when all it does is give you a massive fucking loan you have to pay back , they have got us exactly where they want us THE BASTARDS!
    stuck in the system forever. i think the clever ones don’t go to university and when they get their good job they are not £20,000 in debt.

    Wednesday, December 13, 2006 at 01:16 #
  54. Kelly wrote::

    Yeah the clever ones seriously are the ones who don’t go. I know someone who never went, she’s earning 30,000 a year in an advertising company, shes 25, married with a baby girl and happy as ever. Someone else is on 45,000, never went to uni just did a years course at college in something to do with offices. I am going to come out of this, still not be able to be a proffessional psychologist unless I do a 4th year! be god knows how much in debt and be back living with my parents, as I see it, back to square one, just with a lousy certificate saying I have a degree. Is this stress and illness really worth it? But if I don’t stay, what do I do? Dissapoint my parents, see my boyfriend less? There is no way out.

    Wednesday, December 13, 2006 at 01:34 #
  55. annoyed wrote::

    what annoys me more is that they have these B.A. courses – and they are no use unless you actually do the four years instead of leaving it at the 3- why the fuck don’t they just make the degree the four years, instead of pushing it and making you still feel useless unless you do the whole thing. it’s pointless. i just spoke to my friend and she has given me a boost of at least trying to get something in 2morro, because the shitty thing is that if i don’t i will have a crap christmas with my parents calling me a failure and crap and that in a way would be even worse than just staying up all night frying the little bit of my brain thats left and handing in a piece of crap just to keep every cunt quiet!

    Wednesday, December 13, 2006 at 01:58 #
  56. Agagooga wrote::

    I wanna go back to my room and find a message in dry-erase pen on the door!
    I wish I could just drop a class…
    Or get into a play…
    Or change my major…
    Or fuck my T.A.

    Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 00:14 #
  57. Hamford wrote::

    Hey guys, there is now a place for you all to come and be free:

    http://www.university-sucks.tk

    Post your experiences, read others, decide what you want to do.

    Personally, I love my course (sort of) but the Uni itself ABSOLUTELY SUCKS. It has no facilities whatsoever, NO social clubs or societies (the main thing I was looking forward to), this just totally isn’t the best time of my life. 3 months here, and I have like 1 friend. And I’m not some nutjob hunchback kid, I’m just joe average. Sort of. I am seriously considering dropping out and coming back with a vengeance next year at a bigger university, but I may have already missed my chance since its already December. FUCK. Plus I would have to pay more fees, as they just went up here in the UK, which is great! FUCKING NOT! Anyway…

    http://www.university-sucks.tk

    Tell your friends (If you have any)!

    Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 03:54 #
  58. Tom wrote::

    Higher education is a rip off.

    I went to a large university from 18-21, left school to start working which I did until I was 26, and now have gone back to a different university to finish up my degree. I thought maybe my dissatisfaction with higher education was due to immaturity on my part the first time around and now as a more responsible adult I might find it a valuable experience to finish my degree.

    It’s not a valuable experience. It’s pointless, a waste of time and money, just like it was during my first stint in college.

    Fact is I learned so much more, and developed far more as a person while working at a job than I ever did sitting in a classroom or lecture hall or lab all day. Work allowed me to grow as a person, and pay my bills, and become self sufficient, develop confidence in myself. College is nothing but stuffing information into my brain over and over, giving professors what they want, while at the same time functioning as a huge barrier to earning a living and being self sufficient. It’s a form of enslavement, using knowledge as a weapon.

    I’m literally eating out of garbage cans because academic commitments rob me of my ability to give time and energy to a job. But I’m supposed to spend mental energy figuring out taylor series polynomials and analyzing radix sort algorithms and other academic subjects. That’s insane. None of these genius professors have ever bothered to confront this issue. They’ve got their nice cars and houses at the students expense, what the hell do they care.

    Lets look at the concept. You PAY to do hard work, study all the time, and have no life. For years! That’s fucking insane. Not only that, but a full time academic schedule prevents you from earning a living and being able to support yourself, basically forcing yourself into massive debt. Therein lies the true purpose of college, taking your money so that when you get out you are forced to become tied to a job for years just to break even.

    The last thing I want to do after getting screwed like this is contribute to society in any way, but I won’t have a choice.

    Saturday, December 16, 2006 at 10:23 #
  59. Kiki wrote::

    Hey all. I’m in my third and final year of a BA Marketing degree and I hate it so much!

    I’ve got the ability to do really well, I always have when it comes to education. So it’s not like I hate uni because I’m failing. I just don’t want to do another rubbish assignment on something I couldn’t care less about.

    Ever since I started school I’ve been told how far I’m gonna go in life and that I should apply to a good university, etc. But when it comes down to it, I just don’t care about getting a degree. People just don’t seem to understand that it’s one thing being able to do something but a completely different thing having the passion to WANT to do it.

    I’m so sick of going to classes, worrying about assignments and exams, getting into more debt, and not enjoying my life. Life is way too short to worry about this shit! The real stupid thing is that I want to work in a casino and from what I know you don’t need a BA to deal cards!

    I want a job or a career where I can go into work, do my thing, and then come home and not worry! There is so much more to life than reading, researching and stressing out.

    I’m so scared of what other people would think about me or say, and I worry about all the money my parents have spent on tuition. What makes things worse is that this isn’t the first uni course I’ve been on!

    When I first left college I went to uni to do American Studies. I hadn’t given uni a lot of thought and just went for something I thought might be good fun, but when it came down to it I just didn’t want to be there. I walked away then and was so much happier!

    Now it’s 3 years on and I’m freaking out again! I really need to make a decision but I just don’t know what the hell to do.

    Sorry for the long post but I needed to get this stuff off my chest.

    Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 21:54 #
  60. Kelly wrote::

    I think it should be free, then people can feel free to leave if they hate it. I am paying three grand a year to do something I hate. Its a rip off and they take as much money from you as they can while you are there too. My depression is still as bad as it was at uni even though I am home, it is ruining all aspects of my life, yet I still cant bring myself to drop out, as I feel I am doing the right thing. Why do I follow my head instead of my heart? I wish I had the courage to take control but I just don’t. I have realised how little many things mean to me at uni now, and that the only things that really matter are my family, boyfriend, and friends being healthy and happy. This christmas I am not bothered about presents, I just want time with the people I love, I dont know how I am going to drag my arse back to uni in january though.

    Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 03:03 #
  61. Holly wrote::

    I’ve been attempting to finish university since 1998. Yes, I know this is a sad ridiculous state. I left university in 2000 and joined the military. While in the military I continued my education distance ed. Now a civilian again, I find university so restricting. I feel most days I’m being held back. When I do ask questions, I’m told you don’t need to know that. Well, good lord… I might not need to know it, but I like to. I pay over 8000 pounds a year to attend uni, and I find myself suffocating in boring assignments.
    I suppose having a degree gives you more possibilities, but sometimes the time can eat you up.

    Thursday, January 4, 2007 at 00:09 #
  62. tammy wrote::

    I honestly fuckin hate uni..i took 1 year out and i was so free.im now in my final year i just gotta finish this year or else all that will be a waste and il never be able to live with myself because i know i will regret it. also being at a shit uni doesn’t help.huddersfield for god sake…its ruining me now in the holidays i probably put on half a stone due t stress. id think lets do sum uni work then id be like no il eat instead..ive lost all control..ive tried so hard buts its ruining me i cannot even bring myself to do my dissertation and its in for end of march..im fcuked basically. o well nothing any1 can do just gta face the music and dance..thanks for listening. keep strong!
    see ya
    x

    Thursday, January 4, 2007 at 06:31 #
  63. tammy wrote::

    o forgot to mention im studyin BA MARKETING like you kiki.
    x

    Thursday, January 4, 2007 at 06:35 #
  64. Kie wrote::

    My god. I thought it was just me. I am sick to my hind gills of University. EVERY TIME I GET SOMEWHERE, THE FUCKING GOALPOSTS ARE MOVED. Like many others here, it’s robbed me of a life. I’m 29 now, and I’ve be though my degree, top ups to augment it and try and get a better job. what should have done is go into full time work straight out of high school like the rest of my mates. They are all married , engaged or in serious relationships and are having babies. Not to mention they earn a hell of a lot more than me. Uni was a waste of time and I sacrificed so much that now, I realise that life has passed me by completely. My plan didn’t work. Don’t be a fool kids, if you don’t feel right within the first 2 months of uni – GET THE FUCK OUT. Don’t make my mistake and slavishly follow a set path which you were sold as “The Right Way”. Only you know what is truly right for Y-O-U!

    Sorry, I have gone on a bit, but there ARE other choices than uni. I have found that a degree isn’t really sign of intelligence; it’s how well you can regurgitate the same shit you listen to in mind numbing lectures, delivered as only a uncharismatic bore (i.e. the lecturer) can.

    God…if I could turn back the clock!

    Friday, January 5, 2007 at 07:52 #
  65. Lulu wrote::

    Hey all. I’m glad that I found this site. Well I’M NOT IN UNI YET, but I’m in upper 6th form and ABSOLUTELY HATE the idea of going to university! I feel like the black sheep in my school because practically everyone is going and thay are all talking about it all the time!!!!!!!!!

    I personally can’t get excited about the prospect of going to University to study a course I’m not particularly interseted in ( French an German – my fucking parents are really pushing this one) and coming out with a shit load of debt.

    I really don’t know what I’m going to do because EVERYONE is telling me the only way to get a good job and a good life is to get a degree! I would probably like to join the police force but my parents are telling me to go to Uni first so I can get promoted quicker an end up with more £££££££££££!

    What the fuck has tis world come to?! What the hell should I do?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Saturday, January 6, 2007 at 02:34 #
  66. Kelly wrote::

    Back to Uni on Tuesday, But why? Someone please tell me why I am still going back to this place I hate and am so unhappy. I have been on a constant emotional rollercoaster since I got my results in August and I am sick of it. Should I really have to try to be happy? Cant my feelings just happen rather than me having to control them all the time so i can get on with my life? I am miserable. Help…please…anyone who has any wise words or advise, I need them. x

    Monday, January 8, 2007 at 01:13 #
  67. Katie wrote::

    Hi thank god for you lot!I hate university so so so so much!I thought I was weird for not liking uni-everyone telling me its were you will meet all your life friends and have the best time EVER!Well i HATE IT!1st year psychology student, it is bull!Only a few friends, halls are shit, the course is unbearable. I worked my ass off to get to uni and on this course, now i wish i hadnt bothered. If i didnt have family willing me on id have droped out by now. Ive got exams next week and i just DO NOT CARE! i want out but the thing stopping me is i dont want to become an owner of a council flat working at asda!I WANT A GOOG JOB!how do we get the good job without uni-any ideas…………..PLEASE!I also found this site by typing i hate uni on google!

    Monday, January 8, 2007 at 18:05 #
  68. Katie wrote::

    Hi again i was just reading someones comment who is doing a psychology degree and EVERYTHING you say is true!I cant beleive ive finally found ppl with the same views about uni as me. I loved psychology before uni and thought i had found my subject and a career now i just hate the damn thing. ive just spent last half hour on NHS website looking at what i have to do to train as a paramedic-how did this happen!!!!I really want to drop out but I will be seen as a failure by my family, plus what the hell do you do instead of uni?!

    Monday, January 8, 2007 at 19:45 #
  69. Kelly wrote::

    Exactly, the way things are now means it is hard to get a good, well paid job without a degree. I do know people who have done it however, it just seems that the people I care about are telling me ocnstantly how much better I will be if I have a degree in terms of money in the future. I hate the fact that I listen to other people instead of myself sometimes but I am so confused, messed up and depressed, I feel that I can’t make proper decisions on my own now anyway. If the only thing stopping you is your family’s wishes, I say take control, I have more complicated saituations however, meaning it is harder for me to just make the decision to quit. I think I need to see a professional

    Monday, January 8, 2007 at 23:34 #
  70. Aisha wrote::

    yes..I am so down
    I’m so broken..can’t find my self..I even cried today..I never cried like this unless I’m so hurted..this stupid so called prof. kept ignoring me and never listen to my questions like I’m kinda no-one..
    why these so called prof. thought them selves a hot-shot or something? they are no-bodies..they are just standing in our way…
    this university killed my soul..my dreams..and let me down ,broken, no friends, no social life..no shit

    no one cares..no one listens to me..
    evrybody think that university girls are happy….well i’m not
    as you said everyone in uni are fake..yes, they never noticed me, but this year everyone suddenley knows my name..huh, that because they want something from me..well, do you want to suck my soul more? go ahead, coz there is nothing left in me to be sucked, thanx to university hell.
    I used to think I’m smart and special and that I have something to give..but not anymore…why is this? I want a life..a real one,real ppl,real friends..someone who listen..

    Tuesday, January 9, 2007 at 23:53 #
  71. chesca wrote::

    finally…people who can understand how i feel. everything that has been said here i agree with totally. im in first yr psychology at liverpool, livin in halls n i hate it! i feel so alone n every1 else seemed to get a group of friends in the first 2 weeks! iv tried tlkin to ppl but know1 seems to want to know. i have a few friends on my course but not at my halls, so wen im at my halls i jus end up stayin in my little shitty room all day feelin depressed lookin out the window seein groups of students walkin past talkin laughin … u know jus bein friends. b4 i got here i tought id be friends with every1 on my floor but it hasnt happend. some ppl here are so stuck up!! i hav loads of ace friends at home n i miss them so much. if i dropped out n went home they wudnt be ther anyway cuz they r all at uni n lovin it. i dont know how these are the best days of your life, cuz for me they are the WORST so far. im not into the lifestyle of goin out n gettin wasted n wantin to pull EVERYNIGHT ….so is that my fault? ? ! i dont know what i would do instead of this but i know that i would rather be happier than go through all this for a piece of paper with numbers on at the end. hell id probably be happier in a dead end job than this, at least i would be at home with nice people who like me. u know…the other day i said ”hi” to this girl on my floor n she said ”hi” back, so i said ”how was ur christmas?” n she looked at me like i was askin her if she could blow up baloons from her ass! i mean do ppl where she comes from (london) not tlk to each other? are they not nice neighbours? she is part of this really clicky group of girls on my floor, the kind of group i wud wana be in if they wernt so bitchy, except i hav no chance bein cuz they arent interested. i have no idea what is soooo wrong with me! anyways rant over, im off to carry on revising for an exam i hav tomorrow…the joy! x

    Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 03:23 #
  72. Kelly wrote::

    My life is ruined, I am so stressed, I have become indecisive, upset, depressed, over analytical of everything and generally I am now wasting my life being unhappy. Everything I do ends up in tears.

    Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 03:27 #
  73. nome wrote::

    GOD its good to hear people in the same boat as me. Ive been at uni now for 4 months nearly, in my first year and hate it. Is there anyone else who just hates the lifestyle some students lead?? to be honest i’ve got better things to spend £50 on than getting pissed. I’m up for a laugh but these people just aren’t like me, in fact i know no one who is like me… i’m thinkin of leavin. Anyone got anything to say? Is anyone like me?!

    Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 04:10 #
  74. nome wrote::

    LULU it sounds like you really don’t wanna go, if i was u i’d look at other options, it’s not worth endin up miserable like me and all the other hundreds of ppl on here… look for other things..do something u love. Its best to be happy cos if ur like me u will end up makin urself ill from hatin uni so much… dont worry.

    Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 04:13 #
  75. nome wrote::

    KELLY it sounds like ur going through exactly the same thing as i feel.. but what can we do? i mean, there must be ways of getting a good job without a degree, but if ur like me u’ll get ppl telling you a degree is all u need! well thats crap cos i heard that degrees were gettin easier and now u dont always need one. I don’t know about u but even with thoughts like that i still cant find the courage to just drop out. I really liked what i had before uni, my family, my fun group of friends and my boyfriend. Well they are all that keeps me goin, but its hard cos all my friends are now lovin it and i feel like the odd one out. Why don’t i love it like everyone else? I’m not the type that wants to drink til i don’t know what i’m doin but it seems thats all students round here wanna do. My boyfriends great cos he is similar to me but he’s at a different uni and he does like it a bit, unlike me. I don’t wanna let anyone down if i drop out but i dont know how much more misery and depressing days i can cope with. ITS SHIT ISNT IT?!

    Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 04:24 #
  76. Kelly wrote::

    NOME do you have an email addy or an instant messaging addy? We shoud talk, we will probably end up depressing ourselves more but hey…I could do with talking to someone who doesnt’t think I am crazy x x x

    Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 22:20 #
  77. nome wrote::

    hi KELLY, if you wanna email me my add is gardenome88 AT hotmail DOT com thats also my msn messenger address. Course i don’t think your crazy! I’m just glad there are people who feel the same, cos i really thought i was alone. x x

    Edit: I’ve taken the liberty of modifying the email address slightly to protect it somewhat from spam harvesting bots. -ketsugi

    Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 23:34 #
  78. Aisha wrote::

    oh shut up..look at us whining like old whinos..pffffffff

    Hell…

    Thursday, January 11, 2007 at 18:43 #
  79. Akilae wrote::

    Its my third year at hull uni UK and im back in the first year because i changed course, (stayed in the same department) and discovered that the modules for this year are the same as they were last year. :(
    Ive hated uni since i got here (i only went to uni so i wouldnt have to stay at home) and slowly but surely i have started to lose my mind. every day is the fucking same, with the same worries and same fears. i could leave but then as a few of you have said ‘ill be the guy who dropped out’

    in all fairness its my own fault, i guess i just havent got the guts to leave. i get no pressure from my parents about uni (of course they want me to do well) but i still feel like im dissapointing them with the endless wrong choices i seem to make.

    so far uni has given me – debt, intense boredom, depression, more debt, a general lack of interest in politics, people who i really dont want to know or talk to and levels of sarcasm i never knew were possible.

    rant over :)

    Friday, January 12, 2007 at 17:51 #
  80. katie wrote::

    Gotta go back uni on monday and im dreadin it. Im at bangor I hate wales now stupid place. Back to sittin in my room all day I HATE IT! I dont get on properly with any1 on my floor and have only made about 4 friends who i know i could talk to…………i want my friends from home!Im so pleased to hear other ppl say they dont like the ’student lifestyle’ i hate it. I like goin out some nights but not every night gettin hammered.People say these are the best days of your life well if thats true what the hell is life like after uni?cant be as bad as this it totally sucks. Ive got two xams next week as soon as im done on thurs im gettin in my car and drivin back home for ten days.Then ill have another moan that i dont wana go back.aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i hate uni!

    Friday, January 12, 2007 at 18:46 #
  81. Kelly wrote::

    I want to transfer to a uni closer to home, In london so I can travel in every day and not have to stay there. I want to try and sort this out for next year. Do you think that would be possible anyone?

    Friday, January 12, 2007 at 19:42 #
  82. Lucy wrote::

    I agree with all of you guys, I’m a first year student in a uni in the south-east which shall remain nameless…..I came back after Christmas last Saturday so I’m a week into my 2nd term.

    Yeah, uni is crap, I can’t believe I’m paying 3k a year for this, and everything else on top, I haven’t made any friends, everyone is so fake and just out for themselves – nasty, backstabbing. The course is uninspiring and I never learn anything from the lectures. I spend most of each day in bed.

    Sunday, January 14, 2007 at 00:24 #
  83. nome wrote::

    well i was so unhappy after just 4 days that ive come home again, to seriously re think the whole uni thing. Im just makin a list of other things i could possibly do, some possible some stupid! but i just had to get away to think things through. I hate it so much, if uni is about havin fun then why have i cried every day since ive been back? I used to be motivated, passionate about my subject, being at uni has takent hat all away, i had one lecture last week and i couldn’t even go to that cos i was so low. I haven’t slept properly for 6 nights now, and thats cos all this stress is on my mind. Its too mcuh to deal with. i need to be doing something fun and excitin to keep my brain alive! but this has been the worst first term of my life. Im not usually depressed, and my family and friends from home have said how its so not like me to be down and feeling so low, so at least they know what I’m goin through. Its not gonna be easy but we all have to sort it out and follow what we really want to do, regardless of family and friends, after all, its not them going through it. Look at me givin advice – ive gotta learn to take it myself! but i know how hard it is and i totally relate with everyone on here. x

    Sunday, January 14, 2007 at 06:50 #
  84. nome wrote::

    oh and KELLY, a friend of mine transferred from one uni to another after his third year and went staright into the 2nd year on a similar course. I was gonna do the same, so i could live at home, i just e-mailed the admissions departments at the uni askin if its possible, cos i dont wanna repeat the first year if ive already suffered it once! they haven’t replied yet, surprise surprise, but im waitin to hear from them. Thats if i even decide to carry on at uni, cos im so not sure at the mo. x

    Sunday, January 14, 2007 at 06:53 #
  85. nome wrote::

    sori meant he left after his first year and went in to his 2nd!

    Sunday, January 14, 2007 at 06:54 #
  86. katie wrote::

    going back today!!!

    Sunday, January 14, 2007 at 20:51 #
  87. katie wrote::

    nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Sunday, January 14, 2007 at 20:51 #
  88. Lou wrote::

    hey…this is to people who are considering living at home for uni….I’m doing it this year and seriously, I’m on the edge. If you hate uni, its uni life, whether you live there or not you are still part of it. I’ve made the deicison today to leave….I cannot put myself through this stress/despair/upset everyday simply to get a qualficition which means nothing in todays society. I really do wish everyone good luck.

    Sunday, January 14, 2007 at 22:28 #
  89. Lucy wrote::

    I wish uni had never been invented. Although, would a job be any better?

    Monday, January 15, 2007 at 00:46 #
  90. Kelly wrote::

    Yeah, I am thinking I might be able to, although, I want some opinions…If I can’t transfer who thinks it would be ridiculous to travel almost 2 hours to uni and the same back so I can live at home? Bearing in mind I will most of the time only be going in 3 or 4 days a week and I am only at Uni for about 22 weeks in a whole year. Every other Monday I will leave home at 6.30am and be back by lunch time, Tuesdays I will leave home at lunch time and be home by 6pm, Wednesdays I will leave at 6.30am and be home by 2.30pm, Thursdays I will leave home at about 8.30am and probably stay the night with my friend on the weeks when I have to be in on a friday, although this is only about 5 more weeks this year, the rest of the time I get that day off. Who thinks this is a bad timetable for the rest of the term?? Like..9 weeks of it. I think its worth it so I dont have to live at uni but I want to know what other people think. I will also be travelling in next year if I cant get transferred, for the roughly 22 weeks in the year I am there. This is not counting all the cancelled lectures, or pointless ones lol. Oppinions needed please :)

    Monday, January 15, 2007 at 07:17 #
  91. Hol wrote::

    I think you might burn yourself out by doing all of that travelling Kelly, if i were you i would go for the transfer, and failing that just bite the bullet and stay at uni – it will be over sooner than you think, trust me i know because i was exactly the same as you and i tried to travel and it didn’t work. Good luck whatever you do :)

    Monday, January 15, 2007 at 19:29 #
  92. Kelly wrote::

    It doesnt look like transferring will be much of an option and I cant stay at uni anymore, I am going to give up my flat and try and get some money back. Looks like I am going to have to give commuting a go. Hol, how long did you have to travel and why didnt it work? Part of me thinks I will be ok, getting some work or reading done, or listening to music when I have to go in, but I also keep having panic attacks.

    Tuesday, January 16, 2007 at 00:25 #
  93. Lou wrote::

    Kelly, I too have panic attacks…I know how you are feeling I promise. I find with travelling in my thoughts become magnified, its just me and my head…it makes everything so much worse for me. However, for you, this could be just what you need, some time alone to get things done etc….this whole website just makes me feel that I am not alone etc so thanku all for that. Am i a loser if i drop out? my biggest fear is what people think of me, but I have been told by so many professional advisors that in todays business a degree does not really benefit you (talking about my situation specificially here, I’m not commenting on others degrees) so feel that it is totally not worth it me staying and making myself so ill? I kinda need reassurance from people that just because I dont do the uni thing I’m not a loser….

    Tuesday, January 16, 2007 at 02:12 #
  94. Lucy wrote::

    One of the things I have found is that since coming to uni I have become very reliant on certain habits of mine and my days now are based around my habits and addictions. I don’t mean drugs or alcohol or anything crazy, but just stuff like obsessive compulsive disorder when I am stressed. Like I keep thinking I have left the tap on or the fridge door open. I know that being so uptight and unhappy that I am having these thoughts can’t be healthy but what can one do?

    Tuesday, January 16, 2007 at 02:25 #
  95. Kelly wrote::

    Well I am going to have to give it a go. LOU, just picture in your head yourself having left uni and in a job or something, forget what people think, just focus on your own thoughts. If that seems more attractive to you in terms of your happiness then drop out and don’t look back. However if your doubts about dropping out are about what you truly want, not what other people think then maybe you should stick it out. Please everyone let me know what you think of me commuting all that time to uni.

    Tuesday, January 16, 2007 at 06:40 #
  96. Akilae wrote::

    Lou i think you are in the same boat as me, the reason i have stayed in uni for so long is because i fear what people would think of me if i left.

    i guess the other big fear a lot of uni leavers have is ‘where to go next?’ its not exactly easy to land a job straight away so there is a severe lack of money issue and then of course potential employers may see you as ‘non commital’ if you have dropped out of uni.

    but all that aside, you are not a loser, no one who leaves uni is. if you are not happy there then you have no reason to make the effort or time for it.
    you have to decide in your own mind what is best for you, its not about the other people and all their bullshit. if people cant understand your decision and support your actions then maybe you shouldnt be listening to them in the first place.

    the best advice i can give is to leave, experience life in the real world and see what you think. if you then decide after a few years that you should of got a degree then you can easilly get back into uni as a mature student.

    do what makes you happy :)

    Tuesday, January 16, 2007 at 16:27 #
  97. Hol wrote::

    Hey kelly, i live in bolton and tried commuting to liverpool for a year (around 1 and a half – 2 hours each way) because i hated living in halls and wanted to be with my family more. I was in my 2nd year when i started commuting and it was such a strain – my studies suffered so much and it made me hate uni more than when i was living in halls (which is really saying something!). So i decided to move back into accomodation in liverpool for my final year, and while it was hard and lonely most of the time, the thought of the end kept me going, and that third year really did fly by. When i finished my final exams and packed up my stuff to go home it was the most satisfying and gratifying thing i’ve ever done. It made the whole experience worthwhile and i really feel like a stronger person for it. I am genuinely happy now in a good job (albeit not remotely linked to my degree) and that time away at uni makes me appreciate how good life is now. Stick with it, and you will feel so proud of yourself at the end.Hol.x.

    Tuesday, January 16, 2007 at 20:57 #
  98. Edie wrote::

    Hi guys, i am one of the so-called “losers” who dropped out of uni – i left in my 2nd year in november and let me tell you it is the best thing i have ever done – i’ve just got myself a job as a trainee engineer with a large telecommunications company, and i have never been happier – i’m back with my real friends, back with my family and earning a decent wage too – beats being miserable and doing something which your heart isn’t in. So if you want to leave, just do it, and don’t look back, it’s not worth worrying about what other people will think – if you are that unhappy do something about it instead of wasting a large chunk of your precious youth.

    Tuesday, January 16, 2007 at 21:26 #
  99. Kelly wrote::

    Hey Hol, I gave up my room at Uni today. I dont think commuting will work either but I guess I am going to have to do it now. What else can I do?

    Wednesday, January 17, 2007 at 02:44 #
  100. katie wrote::

    Hi ppl im back at uni i drove back took 3hrs. got bk my window had bin smashed and the dude who came t repair it had not cleaned up. the rock was still on my floor aswell as huge bits of glass and tiny bits aswel. I spent the evening picking up glass off my bed! AS IF IT COULD OF GOT ANY WORSE! i am looking to change courses next year so hopefully that mite make it a little better and try and live with one of my friends. Hope u are all coping-i wudnt reccomnd driving to uni everyday if it takes two hours, u will get so run down with the extra stress it involves.

    Wednesday, January 17, 2007 at 19:23 #
  101. Kelly wrote::

    I wouldnt be driving, it would be on 2 trains. Think that makes it better?

    Wednesday, January 17, 2007 at 21:08 #
  102. Yelir Oabab wrote::

    Yeah, I hate it as well, my is course is decent and the people are nice but it just isn’t for me. I’m in my first first year studying physics and maths and have already gone past the deadline for getting the 3k refunded so will carry on until the summer and see how I feel then. I will probably stay on until the end of the 3 years because I don’t want to be a failure, plus I believe that it gets you a better job. I have a countdown timer on my desktop that counts down the days, hours etc. until the next holiday and sometimes just stare at that hoping that it will turn into zero. Also for this term (this is sad) I have put some sweets in my cupboard and a message for myself to be opened in the last week- pretty much saying “I told you it went quick and here’s the summer to enjoy” (don’t laugh). I have probably gone mad and not realised. I agree with you all about the idiots- the other day, about 50 people came into our small kitchen and wrecked it, not just that but ripped up all the slabs from outside and laid them on the floor in the kitchen, complete with soil, part of a zebra crossing post and a damn tree-strange stuff is lager.

    Thursday, January 18, 2007 at 05:36 #
  103. h wrote::

    i hate uni! is it just me or are laot of poeple from liverpool uni?? I hate it here it bores the crap out of me and i think id probbaly be ready 2 join a cult! im a really sociable person i find it all plain here and conversations boring an pointless! im goin mad!

    Thursday, January 18, 2007 at 08:21 #
  104. h wrote::

    does it get better?

    Thursday, January 18, 2007 at 08:22 #
  105. Kelly wrote::

    no it doesnt get better. It’s either carry on being miserable doing this or be miserable knowing you dropped out

    Tuesday, January 23, 2007 at 01:48 #
  106. Hol wrote::

    Hey guys, i really feel bad for you, knowing how bad i felt when i was in your situation. Kelly, i don’t want to keep telling you not to give up on uni because i know it’s not for a lot of people, and just look at what Edie said – he/she dropped out and has made a success of life within 3 months of quitting, and has regained the hapiness which uni took away. I don’t really know what my point is here, as you can probably tell, hehe, but i suppose you only know yourself what the best course of action is – whatever choice you make, it WILL be the right one. This is what i believe anyhow – if you are meant to finish uni – you will, and vice versa. So don’t beat yourself up any longer people :) Hol.XXX.

    Tuesday, January 23, 2007 at 06:44 #
  107. nome wrote::

    Well I’ve finally made the decision to LEAVE UNI! I got a form last week and it kinda made me laugh that I spent all that time planning and preparing for uni but I can leave in a couple of weeks. I know its been a bit of a waste of time but I think I had to experience it to be able to say that it wasn’t for me. At least i can say i tried! So, even though i don’t really know what I’m gonna do, i’m going home and I’ll hopefully get a job and earn a bit, whilst getting some careers advice, and maybe volunteering for a bit to get experience and something else to put on my CV. Lifes too short to be unhappy, moaning and moping around this crap place, and even though I feel like a bit of a failure at the moment I’m just gonna try this and see what happena, I can’t feel worse than the way I do while Im at uni. And no matter what other people say, its you who has to make the decisions for yourselves…everyone is different and all ahve different experiences of uni. Just because you don’t like it its not the end of the world, you can always go later, or not at all! It really doesnt matter – there are so many options that don’t involve uni, its just finding them. I just hope everyone tries to do whats best for them, don’t let anyone get in your way. x

    Monday, January 29, 2007 at 19:08 #
  108. Kelly wrote::

    what I want is to be happy…but how can I at University? And how can I if I quit?

    Thursday, February 1, 2007 at 05:01 #
  109. h wrote::

    I dont know anything anymore…is it me thats the problem or is it not. I thought i got on with people. Evidently not. Talk about next year and people paying deposits this week is making me sick. I dont know what to do……i think i dno-tried to go out and meet nu ppl etc..but ppl are telling me not to do that and that making friends should be a natural process. Uni is also forced and unnatural. Suddenly 18 due to society some people leave home….and you then have to make friends and you ahve to do this and that. Its society shaping us into these egotostical idiots.

    Thursday, February 1, 2007 at 09:13 #
  110. Kelly wrote::

    I agree. It is forced and unnatural. I am living at home now but still feel awful, full of fear and uneasiness whenever I set foot in Uni. Will it get better next year if I switch Unis or get a car to make commuting easier?

    Friday, February 2, 2007 at 00:42 #
  111. lakshyt wrote::

    WTF is wrong with you people… i used to think the same way as you.. but get your fucking heads out of your fucking asses… do u know what university is about… it isnt about the shit u learn.. thats a small part of it.. its about being able to take whats thrown at you.. this is why there is respect for people who graduate.. there is respect for students.. because it is known… all over the world that is is a struggle… and ofcourse this is what sets you different from other people who cant take this shit and leave… you think people dont know the lectures are bullshit.. the shit u do is bullshit.. but look at it this way… if u can take that.. u can take anything in life.. and this is why employers will emply you.. because they know you will be able to take the stress… but what if u were one of the drop outs.. WHY THE FUCK WOULD EVEN I HIRE YOU… you might just drop out of the job.. because its too fucking hard for you and too bullshit… and dont look at the richest people in the world who have no education… theres also bums on the street with no education.. and theres alot more of them than there are rich people… Those are the lucky people who make it… what if youre not so lucky?

    Monday, February 5, 2007 at 12:34 #
  112. Kelly wrote::

    Don’t talk to us like that…It’s not just stress and nor are we moaning about nothing. Why do you think we are sticking at it? to try and graduate of course…and having a degree does not mean you don’t have no education. You don’t belong on here so please leave, you have no idea about the sorts of emotions some of us are experiencing.

    Monday, February 5, 2007 at 21:25 #
  113. Nick wrote::

    Thank God that I found this site! I think that you have got to be pretty fed up to type into google (like i did) “i hate uni”!

    I find uni absolute shit – i have just 6 hours a week of the course that i actually enjoy and one of those hours is shite. I think that most people who have come to my uni are not here to learn but because they are too immature to go and get a job so they decide to come and dos on some shitty subject at uni. What’s more, those people are the most fake, boring and stupid people I have ever met – and then ur supposed to make friends with them, if not ur a weirdo!!?

    I have disliked it here almost since the moment I arrived but I have decided to ignore all those idiots who don’t shut up about their houses for next year (i dont knoz wot the ruish is it just proves how thick they r cos they r all get fleeced by the landlord for summer rent, signing fees and deposits which might only get paid back years ahead!)etc etc. I am gonna stick it out in this shithole until summer and then come June 1st i am gone!!! i am transferring (if i can find out how) to a uni where i have real friends who feel the same as i do about uni.

    If i cant transfer then that is me and uni life finished. i will get a job and work my way up, it simply is not worth bein g so unhappy for no reason at all.

    I would just like to say to ‘lakshyt’ that i think you are exactly the type of person who makes uni so crap.

    Tuesday, February 6, 2007 at 04:44 #
  114. Nick wrote::

    oh yeah i just anted to add this:

    Have u ever wondered why during the first few weeks at uni u think that u have already met half the people that u r introduced to? Well this just goes to show what a load of stupid sheep the majority of people at uni r – they all talk, dress, walk, act and think the same as each other – thats why they enjoy themselves and i dont – cos i aint prepared to clone myself into that shit!

    now if you’ll excuse me i gotta go bust my housemates ass – she is smoking in our non smoking flat and it is filling my room (what a nice person i sound!)!!

    Tuesday, February 6, 2007 at 04:55 #
  115. lakshyt wrote::

    i said i used to be like you.. and when i said that i meant it and i might still be. what you have to understand is to suck it up.. and take it.. because these HARD 4 years of your life, will hopefully ease off the rest of your life. so study, hate it, because your not the only ones who do… and hopefully in the future you will be in a much better position that you would have been if you take the easy way out now. life is not easy, and it might get harder and harder as you move along.. remmember this.
    even though you may not know this now, you will know later on that this life that you hate now, will honestly be one of the easiest years of your life. and in order to know this now, you need to look ahead, look ahead to what you need to do in the next years of your life, in the years after uni. tell me what you will be doing? working? getting married, then what.. having childeren.. raising them, educating them.. life will only get harder, and you might not be getting another break. me? i dont belong here? why do you think im here? writing what im writing, i am doing this for me too. i hope you understand what im trying to say.

    Tuesday, February 6, 2007 at 17:43 #
  116. Kelly wrote::

    You seem to be missing the point though. Of course life is hard. I am not saying that I am stressed or that uni life is simply ‘hard’. I enjoy hard things, I like a challange, I look forward to the chaos of having children and hopefully having a job that I can get stuck in to. Uni life is not simply ‘hard’, it causes me upset and tears, dispair and depression, panick and anxiety attacks, I feel out of place and alone, I feel desperate and at times hysterical. I have been to a psychiatrist and am on anti-depressants. I hate university because of what it does to me and on top of that I hate a lot of ways it is run. University is more than a challange for me. These years will not be the easiest of my life…please don’t patronise me.
    Nick, I am hoping to transfer to so that I can live at home next year and just have a short commute. Either that or I will be buying a car and driving an hour to my current university on the days I have lectures and stuff. I think next year I will be happier and that once the summer comes I can try my best to put all these feelings behind me. I am never going to like university, but I hope it can become something that makes me just a bit frustrated rather than depressed.

    Tuesday, February 6, 2007 at 18:10 #
  117. Nick wrote::

    I know what both of you two mean and agree with both. I really do actually enjoy challenges and hard work – i had to work damn hard to get to uni. and i do realise that uni is hopefully going to open lore doors in the future, this is the only reason why i am here.

    However I know exactly how Kelly feels and hopefully we both take comfort in that. there r some real arseholes at uni who make life really uncomfortable (not hard). i guess tho u just have to go back to why we r at uni – we r here to learn and if u bear that in mind then it does get easier. i sometimes can stress myself out just thinking of all the work i have to do, all the money i owe and i too can get really stressed about not enjoying ,yself here and making more friends. I guess this however will all just take time. Like lakshyt says we just gotta give it time and not bother wot ne1 else thinks or what we should be doing. I think in time, when i start treating this place as a great learning institution, that when i will start to enjoy uni life. i hope u get wot i mean!

    Wednesday, February 7, 2007 at 03:44 #
  118. CSY wrote::

    It’s my fault for choosing to come here and choosing to put on a happy face every day and go to lectures. I hate it, but I do it with a smile because I’m too chicken to quit. God, talk about lily livered; I am THE epitome of a coward. Sigh!

    Thursday, February 8, 2007 at 04:06 #
  119. lilitu wrote::

    Ah, kindred spirits. Some of these entries really made me laugh…and I can completely relate because the whole uni thing is just so ridiculous. I’m a philosophy student in my final year and God, I hate it. It’s taking enormous willpower not to just run away from this place screaming and never come back. The only good thing is that I have a couple of good friends…everything else about uni life is so crap. The only part of my course that was remotely interesting was marxism…learning about why the capitalist society that got me here in the 1st place is so fucked up. I’m not doing any work & at this rate I’l prob fail but I just can’t wait to leave…uni is my prison & all i want to do is get out there and be myself, self-sufficient and growing in my own way. So glad there are others like me out there!

    Monday, February 12, 2007 at 19:36 #
  120. Kate wrote::

    I think uni is really going to be a thing of the past soon. So many people become successful without going and so many people have degrees it seems almost impossible to stand out anyway! I wished I’d thought about this before I started but I’m on my third year and not too far from finishing so I might aswell finish. I’ve also just realised I’ve wasted 3 years hanging out with people I actually hate!

    Friday, February 16, 2007 at 19:48 #
  121. Allen wrote::

    Yeah I agree, university blows but at least it’s better then working 9-5 at Mc’shits taking orders from some greesy teenager whose balls probably havent dropped yet.

    Monday, February 26, 2007 at 13:57 #
  122. Sarah wrote::

    Bored…depressed…Spent whole of my Sunday in my room and just randomly typed in ‘I hate university’ in google and was surprised to find this with so many like-minded people.

    Uni is over-rated (I’m at Edinburgh Uni by the way)Uni is made out to be this amazing thing where you’re intellectual enriched and have a buzzing social life. But I’ve never been so lonely in my life. I have but a handful of friends at uni of only one which I can say is a genuine friend and even then I don’t get to see her much on account of us doing completely different courses and of her living in the catered halls. Instead I am stuck here in a self-catered flats with a bunch of randoms I so incompatible with and I swear we were stuck together because of similiar socio-economic and geographical backgrounds. Never mind our interests and personality… One of my flatmates is ‘Miss Popular’ who makes ‘friends’ with everyone. You know those types? Somewhat fake. Come across as nice but you swear they are saying things behind your back. People who base their friendships on quantity rather than quality. Then there is my other flatmate who has on several occasions played her music at anti-social times disrupting my sleep (8am on a Saturday and 3am on a night when only I was in – How nice of her). My other flatmate, a law student acts somewhat aloof around me. The other flatmate…well she’s just a bit well… dull.
    I get out with my ‘genuine’ friend at least once a week and we’re getting a flat together next year. But for now the only thing keeping me happy is my boyfriend who visits once a week/fortnightly.

    As for the academic side of things. I’m passing first year so far but I just can’t take it any more. I love history but sitting with my head in a book ALL the time is getting up my nose. Doesn’t help either that my once interesting outsiders course Social Anthropology has taken a great dive (we’re now looking at irrigation systems in Bali!!!).
    I should have done something more practical – ignored my guidance teacher and done primary teaching or something.

    Wish you didn’t need a bloody degree to get a good job nowadays. 3/4 years in something you could very well hate just so you can avoid working at Tescos… (my ever so exciting part-time job).

    *sigh* I need to be doing something more practical. Working with kids. Or travelling the world. Or something in the community.
    Maybe I should drop the middle-class lifestyle aspirations?
    I love reading but I’m sick of academic texts and sitting on my arse all the time…

    Ahhh… It’s fun to vent out pent up anger…

    Monday, March 5, 2007 at 08:40 #
  123. Katie wrote::

    hi just reading what u guys write is awesome finally i have found people with exactly the same thoughts and feelings about uni. I to have only one ‘friend’ at uni who im gettin a house with next year the rest well……..lets not go there. I spend nearly everyday locked up in my room hating that im there.At xmas i was soooo close to droppin out but i so want to get a degree and say look thats what ive acheived and i hated every second of it! im at bangor university studying psychology. A subject which i thought rocked at alevel but actually its aload of bull at degree level i have done one subject that i have enjoyed so far and so am really pissed off, it is all just maths. I to am way to scared to drop out i dont want to be seen as a failure nor do i want to go and work at a till 9-5. Every time i have no lecs im in my car and heading north back to my home. ive just had a week off going back 2moz and back home again.Its totally screwing with my head being at uni god knows what state i will be in three years from now.

    Tuesday, March 6, 2007 at 21:40 #
  124. Kelly wrote::

    It makes me think life isn’t worth living. University is bad, my life is complicated. I can’t face the pain.

    Wednesday, March 7, 2007 at 23:25 #
  125. morgan wrote::

    i love you all for thinking exactly the same as me, i seriously thought i was the only person who hated uni. I hated the work, i hated the people, i hatedd the lifestyle. I preffered waitressing to that shit. Ive recently quit and gone to college and trust me its so much more relaxed and friendlier, no one is competing with each other and ive found its just generally a nicer atmosphere. And for all of you who think you’re life will be shit if you dont get a degree and a high profile career, trust me it wont be, life is about being happy and doing what motivates you, so follow your heart i say.

    Thursday, March 8, 2007 at 20:28 #
  126. Matt wrote::

    I go to UQ in Australia and I hate every second of it, I hate just being there, I hate the people, I hate their godlike attitudes and I hate the fact that as hard as I have tried I just can’t seem to be happy there, I just can’t fit in, no matter what. I can’t make any friends at all. Ever since I have come to this lonely, hostile, anti-social black hole, I have been single, made very few friends (2) and the detrimental psychological effects of this all is making the most simple things in life a daily challenge. When I am not at university I am nervous about having to go back there. It really makes me uneasy just thinking about it. I am in my third year, but I just started studying something else so I am back at the beginning.

    Academically I am doing fine, I enjoy what I study, but at university I just can’t study, I can’t concentrate, I don’t enjoy what I do, and just being there, it sucks the joy out of daily life and turns it into a dull struggle that has to be overcome. When I go home my mind clears up, I am surrounded by a loving family and when I sit down and read that maths or biology book I actually enjoy it, I enjoy learning and I can’t wait to learn more. But when I am at uni, my mentality and attitude change, when I am at uni I am lonely, lethargic, pessimist, angry, full of hate and bitterness.

    I see big cliques of people, of superficial girls, or jocks, hippies and alternatives with identity issues, but I just get jealous and bitter. I don’t like the fact that other people can come here and make friends so easily but to me making friends is like some stupid game I am never going to win. I just don’t want to play a game I can’t win, and I just hate the fact that making friends seems like a game when in the past it just happened. I hate it because I have never been the kind of person that is jealous. This is just one negative change in me induced by the horrible atmosphere of UQ. I have been the type of person that believes in courtesy and politeness, because when you think about it, when two strangers are polite to each other it is so much easier than if they hate each other. Being polite used to come naturally to me, now it is hard to be polite on account that the person you are being polite to (especially if they are female) just might spit in your face (not literally) for being that way. Some people I know are only friends with me when it is convenient, otherwise they don’t want to have anything to do with me, I just hate the way I meet one of these ‘friends’ and they are all like “Hey there, great to see you again, haven’t seen you for a while, lets go and hang out for the next 6.66 minutes, but then I got to get going, see you later” and after that they will not call you, they will not want to see you again unless you just happen to bump into them by pure coincidence and not by a planned act of simple friendship. I really hate those types of fake friends, I just don’t know what to do with them, on one hand they are being nice to you, but on the other they don’t mean it. I have tried to keep in contact with them but they are always too busy for me. I just don’t know, I just wish university was different, I just wish not everybody had to be there, I just wish it was more peaceful, less crowded, less rushed, more civilized and just a better place to be, a place one looks forward to going to, a place where you can learn in peace.

    Everyone at UQ acts like they are the best, they think they are better than everyone else, they act like they go to MIT or Yale, but I seriously doubt that a UQ degree has much recognition outside of Australia. I just hate the way that I am this way; I have been a lot happier in the past, why does it have to be different now?

    Sunday, March 11, 2007 at 10:15 #
  127. Kelly wrote::

    Because university isn’t for everyone. it makes lots of people genuinely unhappy. University is not for me, I hate it, but I want a degree and now I have started I may as well try to get one so I can have a better future. If I could rewind to deciding whether or not to go to university I definitely wouldn’t though.

    Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 01:02 #
  128. Mandy wrote::

    I ended up on the third year of a BA top up course after doing an HND in digital art which I am now hating more and more each day with every passing project.

    Initially the HND was fun, I stayed local and didn’t go away to university in some far away place like every single one of my friends did, I just couldn’t handle the thought of doing that. Our school pushed us all into applying for the best degrees at the best universities, but I wasn’t going to stand for this, and neither should anyone else. If you don’t feel happy about doing something, don’t do it.

    For the entirety of my three years at uni I have been working part time in an off licence where I get to experience alot of the antics of local moronic students, as well as the area in which I live which appears to be populated by the usual idiots proudly parading around their university logo hoodie as if it makes them look educated and better than everyone else. In reality, these are just the people that get up to the same supposedly amusing drunken yob behaviour every year in the same manner. I’ve had enough with caterwauling karaoke at 4am from the students living next door – I’m a student too, and I had a big presentation to make that day. Or perhaps drunkenly pushing people holding road traffic signs into my car at club kicking out time is also amusing student behaviour – I can tell you *not*..

    Enough about that anyway, I was fortunate not to have to deal with living in some grotty university halls and put up with these kind of people as some of you have done, and I am so glad about this. Reading these comments has confirmed my suspicions about just how terrible life would be in such a situation, and how glad I am that I have never and WILL NEVER ever be a part of that, as I only have to put up with a few more months of this course from hell.

    So why is it a course from hell? So many reasons are pouring from my mind now, but I don’t think I can bring myself to type out too much more of this endless rant and bore you all to death. I’ll try to cut it short…

    Firstly, I have had about 7 different course tutors since the start of term due to the major lack of planning and timetable consideration. I feel that because of this I have been the victim of the pot luck grading system again with a very average and disappointing grade given to me by some random tutor who has yet to even understand my work. I came out of the HND with high hopes, I felt so proud of myself, I was achieving the best and even got given a title as student of the year. I’ve always been one for achievement and have pushed myself so far when it comes to the creative arts. I got the top grade in my final exam project on the HND, and produced something that I was extremely pleased with. Now I feel like the work that I produce and the way in which I work is being penalised due to my fine art background.

    People on this course make shit work, corporate grey sludge you wouldn’t notice from one piece of work to the other, and they get a big pat on the back. I can see easily that most of these people have no creative skill, eye, or talent, they just tick the boxes and make the most obvious thing possible and it’s lapped up. It kills me to see how people like this can get this kind of congratulatory bigging up when these tutors are telling us always to push the boundaries, think outside the box. The usual phrases.

    I just dream of the time when I can stop worrying about meaningless, shitty, projects (currently stressing over having to produce something for a creative competition which it is compulsory for us to enter and have had only 4 weeks to do, when other courses have had 8 weeks), and get on with my life.

    If I had known that this course was going to be such a complete soul destroyer, I would have been happy with just an HND. I left that feeling good about my work, like I stood out from the rest. Now I just feel like I am someone stood in the background producing crap work just to fill the spaces in the tutors time. I hate my uni and I hate my course.

    Not only that, I am currently working between 20 and 30 hours a week just to be able to pay the bills and rent etc, when the morons on my course seem to think that they can just exist on 20 quid a week and quit their jobs to be able to do more uni work. HOW?!!!! If I had to quit anything, it would be the course, not the job. At least it gives me something back that I can use.

    As one of my regular customers said to me, “There are earners, and there are learners.”

    I think that phrase sums it all up.

    Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 02:14 #
  129. Paul wrote::

    Guys. Guys. Just get the stupid piece of paper/degree. Then you can do two things:

    1) Become a high school teacher and perpetuate the cycle so the next generation can know our university pains. lol

    2) Pursue your dreams. Live, love, get paid and get laid. And if you strike it rich and famous, take out that degree that was collecting dust and burn it in front of the entire world. Boo yah!

    Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 12:04 #
  130. katie wrote::

    well I had a slight stage at uni were i actually enjoyed the work-stuff on the brain lol. However it has all gone backwards and im hating it even more now. My head is in such a state. would i be happy if i did quit now?what job would i get?should i get a job and go college at night?if i quit ive failed and ive struggled to get this far so is it worth it?

    Ive just failed two final exams from semester 1 and told mum and dad yesters after weeks of lying that i hadnt got them (not like me to lie, but i did because to ashamed).now its D Day…..think about where you wana go and what u wana do they tell me.WHO KNOWS, IF I KNEW THAT I WUDNT HAVE A FUCKED UP HEAD!

    the one thing that i thought was going to be my thing (psychology)has turned out to be the thing that i hate the most now im left with nothing, nothing at all.

    To make this all a hell of a lot less worse i crashed and wrote my car off last week. so the one thing that was my release from the hell is literally crashed and burned. and at this present moment in time I HATE LIFE.

    which for a 19 year old is something not good to admit.

    Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 18:13 #
  131. Kelly wrote::

    It’s not good to admit but at the same time it’s not good to pretend that its not true which i think far more people are doing now. I just found out that I have a test in a couple of weeks, the week I was told I didn’t have anything to do because it was the last week before easter and was for people to make sure they had done all their coursework, which i have almost finished and always planned to give in before then. I was looking forward to staying for a week with my boyfriend who lives 3 hours away meaning I only get to see him at weekends. But no…they tell me now I have a test on the tuesday.
    I miss him so so so much, we met over a year ago on holiday and it has always been long distance but I am getting sick of it and things like this make me want to burst in to tears. On top of that, they aren’t leaving us long to revise. I really hate uni and sometimes I feel like I am only doing it so can see my boyrfriend more, i.e holidays which would be non existant if I worked. I do want a degree and I’d like to be a primary teacher if I get there in the end but it really is killing me, I don’t like the people, the place, the course, anything. I am living at home now and driving to Uni 1hour away, which isnt so bad really. I just wish I was doing something I liked. I wish I was happy..it’s been so long I don’t really remember what it feels like.

    Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 01:41 #
  132. Katie wrote::

    What do you all think?

    Im currently thinking about what i should do-

    1-stay at bangor and keep goin with psychology-i hate the subject
    2-stay at bangor and change courses-ive not really made any good friends in bangor-not very happy being there
    3-change uni and keep doin psychology-will moving to a uni near home (get to live at home) make me enjoy the course more?
    4-change uni and start a new course
    5-ditch uni and get a job at asda-not really keen on this one!

    I have no idea what to do, all these options keep flying round in my head and i have no idea which is the correct ‘path’ please what do you all think?

    Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 20:38 #
  133. Hannah wrote::

    wow, its so good to know its not just me! i would moan on and on about uni but am so FUCKING tired, depressed and fed up coz i HATE it so much i really dont have the energy to say much more! am now going to go knock myself out on sleeping tablets to combat the fucking insomnia a life of sitting in lectures and studying leads to!

    Friday, March 16, 2007 at 08:38 #
  134. Kelly wrote::

    If I were you I would change Uni and keep Psychology. The thing is, living at home would make you happier, it did me! but at the same time, trying to adjust to a new place as well as a new subject might be really hard. Unless you have a subject you think you’d love i’d stick with psyc, I am doing psyc too and I agree it is not what I thought it would be but I have found myself more interested in it since living at home.

    Friday, March 16, 2007 at 17:25 #
  135. katie wrote::

    thanks thats helped!man glad ive found someone else who thinks this subject is lame! do u take tests everyweek on stats? and do presentations every week? THERES NO PSYCHOLOGY TO BE FOUND! we also have to do writing skills class, dont even get me started!

    which uni do u got to?

    anyone go to preston?

    Friday, March 16, 2007 at 22:13 #
  136. Kelly wrote::

    I go to Kent, Yeah it mostly seems to be about maths with a bit of biology thrown in. I also have to do a ‘wild module’ which is policits. So..no real psychology at all! we don’t have tests but we have assignments pretty much every week.

    Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 01:10 #
  137. T.D.K wrote::

    I was sold this wonderful, bountiful dream of University when I left college (or sixth form to stop anglo-american confusion), where I could sit and debate about the subject I was passionate about and get good, coherent answers and thrilling arguments. But No. Apparently University is only good and enjoyable if you can down a pint in 2 seconds, join a stupid society which revolves more about reputation and sexual prowess than whether youre actually any good at it, and it’s alright to doss off lectures and not say a word in seminars because theres always someone to pick it up, mainly the person who talks a lot because theyve actually read the book rather than go off to Vodka Island at Tiger fucking Tiger. Even the lecturers seem to have given up hope, only a small minority actually argue back at you and contest your views, the others just let you be because obviously your existance doesnt mean a thing. The amount of times Ive wanted to scream in seminars because I cant get my point across because some dappy idiot needs explaining on a simple literary term such as stanza. You learn that in GCSE for petes’ sake. I give up half the time. I really do. I’ve found about two or three other friends that share my dislike for the modern University status and we’ve been branded elitists. Which I actually accept, because I’d rather be an elitist who’ll get somewhere than a socialite who wont.
    Really. What happened to the old dream of University?
    gah, yours, T.

    Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 03:20 #
  138. romeo wrote::

    hey guys. ive just read through from top to bottom, and im totally put of going to university lol. this is my situation…
    at the moment im a salesperson at (currrys) for all you people from the uk, and ive been doin it for the past 2 years. when i first started i used to love it, that buzz you get after uve done a big sale with all the extras on it (warranties e.t.c) and ur boss rubbing his hands with a big fat grin on his face but now i cant stand the job. its all about targets targets targets and too much pressure to achieve them. also all of my collueges are money grabbin twats who dont give a damn about the customers just as long as they squeeze them of every penny thay have to their name. so im thinkin of gettin out of this job and going to university and gettin a degree. ive heard its one of he best experienecs of ur life and ull meet loads of new people and so on. im 20 at the mo and i really dont wanna make the wrong choice and cock up my life completely. if i choose to go uni i know ill have to stick it out all the way or me dad would just dis-own me.just need a bit of advice of everyone here on what to do, im sooooooooooo stressed please help.

    oh and by the way edie i think ur veyy brave for what u did and following ur heart.

    (i actually found this website by typing “i love university” in google…it works try it lol.

    Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 09:14 #
  139. Starla wrote::

    Hi romeo, i don’t think you should allow the stories of woe on this page to put you off going to uni – it isn’t bad for everyone, you will more than likely be one of the lucky people who has an easy time making friends there (you’re still young enough to fit in with the general uni age group), which in turn definitely makes the whole experience better! My only advice would be to think through your choice of degree very carefully – there’s nothing worse than getting halfway through your 2nd year and realising you picked the wrong subject(exactly what my best friend did!).
    I did the same as you’re thinking of doing – went to uni after 2 years of working for the NHS in a crappy position after my a-levels, so i completely understand why you want to do it at this stage of your life. Good luck whatever you choose to do!

    Wednesday, March 21, 2007 at 02:00 #
  140. Hannah wrote::

    i actually want to die. i cant cope with this place anymore. im just not good enough.

    Wednesday, March 21, 2007 at 08:56 #
  141. Kelly wrote::

    I don’t want to go next year, I want to get a job and work my way up in an office or something similar, I want my boyfriend who lives 3 hours away to do the same. He doesn’t want to. He wants to go to Cambridge and a different Uni if he doesnt get in there. I can’t cope with 3 more years of hardly seeing him and doing something I hate. But, if I get a job I won’t get any time in the holidays to see him cos I will be working. What do I do? Try and get through something that is making me unhappy so that when the years are over things might be better, or give up now? Please help. I can’t stop crying.

    Wednesday, March 21, 2007 at 22:37 #
  142. Johnny Tiger wrote::

    hey guys! I studied computer engineering when i was in my early twenties. I was young and ignorant, and pretty well took this course for all the wrong reasons (very “practical” thinking…..i was good at math, and had the potential to get a lucrative job…) I’ve always fancied myself as being on the creative side, so this was not a great choice.

    Well folks, after a year i actually realized what i was getting into, and dropped the f*$# out! It was an extremely demanding course, which i quickly realized i had NO interest in whatsoever. The one redeaming thing about being there was that i actually lived with REAL friends, who were much more cut out for this kinda thing than me (but even with their aptitude, they were a bit down in the dumps!)

    Anyways don’t worry about what over people think of you (easier said than done i realize but…) Life is TOO f#*$ING short, and you really have to learn how to live on your own terms. You’re ADULTS (technically…i still don’t always feel like one…. :) ), and despite what your parents think, THEY’RE not the ones living your life! Yeah obviously uni is a lot of hard work…this is a seperate discussion to becoming a manic depressive individual, who was optitmistic that uni would be more than it actually is. It’s overwhelming doing something that feels completely pointless and understimulating for what…. 3 or 4 years!

    SO onto my life now. I’ve been in Vietnam teaching English for the past 2 years, and have ZERO regrets leaving uni. I’m learning a new language, have been to 5 new countries, and have experienced something that you can’t learn in school. I’ve honestly learned A LOT more here than i ever did in UNI (or high school for that matter.) I’d REALLY recommend giving the ESL teaching gig a try! You can really learn A LOT about yourself, as well as the world. Do a 1 month TEFL (or CELTA) course and pick a place! It’s not for everyone, but you may very well have the time of your life (you may not even wanna come back!)

    Just an option for those who have felt the empty void that CAN BE uni!

    Thursday, March 22, 2007 at 03:56 #
  143. Johnny Tiger wrote::

    oh and one more thing. Have any of you thought of studying online? You can go at your own pace AND can study from home (or anywhere obviously.) There are MANY accredited online uni’s (the idea isn’t so young anymore), and you’ll basically wind up with the same degree as you would from any decent uni (obviously there are certain subjects that can’t be done online.) Not a bad option. No bs social scence (not all cases but some), no lectures, no intimidation from peers or teachers, no waking up at 6:30am etc… and can study at a slooow pace if you’re working….or fast as hell if you have the ambition to tackle 8 courses at a time!) I’ve been doing an online English BA course (not always a practical major, but i’m interested in it (at least 60 per of it) and would eventually like to transfer into teacher’s college and become a “proper” teacher….this means little for most of you uni students i’m guessing…)

    Thursday, March 22, 2007 at 04:30 #
  144. Erin wrote::

    Thank you Google!
    I’m so glad that I’m not the only one on Earth feeling the way I have been. I’ve just started uni, moved away from home to a new city, optimistic about making a ton of new friends and enjoying my course.
    It’s been 6 weeks and so far I haven’t made a single proper friend.
    It’s strange. It’s like people don’t WANT to make friends, they only speak to you if they’re made to in some icebreaker activity. I’m so lonely, and I feel like there’s nothing I can really do about it.
    I’m only doing my course in Economics for a year before trying to upgrade to Law but so far it’s really not interesting me, the assessment is stupid because it all has to be done online and the subject matter is boring.
    Every time I hear we have assessment I get a weird little panic attack, like, I can’t breathe properly for a few minutes. Some of my depressive tendencies (self-destructive behaviour that began in my mid-teens) have started to resurface after lying dormant for a year or two.
    So now I’m wondering, is it really worth it? I don’t see a future goal for my life after uni.

    Monday, March 26, 2007 at 21:42 #
  145. Erin wrote::

    Oh by the way, I’m at UQ, so if the other UQ person that was on here before ever returns, I have an idea of how you feel.

    Monday, March 26, 2007 at 21:43 #
  146. Kelly wrote::

    This website helps so much

    Monday, March 26, 2007 at 22:59 #
  147. SBG wrote::

    I studied a physics degree for 4 years, I hated every minute of it. I hated studying so much I decided I was not going to be a physicist. Now what, if I get a physics job I will be depressed, if I get a job that doesnt need a degree I will be a clerk for the rest of my life, or option 3 go back to uni and study something that I dont hate yet but soon will.
    Coming to this forum has reminded me how much I hated going to uni,

    Wednesday, March 28, 2007 at 12:54 #
  148. Stella wrote::

    Migranes, headaches, weight loss, depression and anger and over 30,000 words worth of essays, projects and a dissertation to hand in, in 5 weeks! That’s my final year. Oh and my thesis supervisor has decided to prioritise their own work over helping me. They won’t read anything else I hand in, even though its 50% or my grade for this year and 25% or my total grade! And they may or may not answer any research or essay questions I have…and they know about the stress I’ve been under…I think it’s really cruel and unprofessional

    Sunday, April 1, 2007 at 03:31 #
  149. i hate uni A LOT wrote::

    I hate university. Every waking moment has to be devoted to studying to maintain a good average, and as a result everything else has to be sacrificed. I dislike all my classes and all the horrid professors teaching them. I’d take something else except I hate the other stuff even more, so I’m stuck studying something I hate the least. But, none the less, I still hate it. I can’t handle this place anymore. I feel I’m just not good enough. That Adam Sandler song is my theme. SOMEBODY KILL ME PLEASE. I’M ON MY KNEES. PRETTY PRETTY PLEASE. KILL MEEEEEEEE I want to DIE

    Monday, April 2, 2007 at 12:03 #
  150. AmedJones wrote::

    Im sooo glad i found this website, this post started in March of 2004 and its still going one. Makes me feel good that alot of people are in the same boot

    I about to complete my first year in computer science at York Uni and still have 3 miserable years to go . yeppie for me … …………. not !!!

    I hate university for many reasons, for one its not as social as many think. There basically two option 1) Study hard, ignore friends and social life or 2) be social and watch your money go to waste

    Second part. the material you learn is ambiguous. All the theories and nonsense that they force you to learn will never be applied to real life, You future boss will never ask you write a 20 page essay on the origin of life.

    Third, despite the high tuition price tag, the cost of food, books, paper copies and everything in between is expensive compare to the outside . They basically milk you for your money. They know every well that most student are already in debt so hey “why not charge them extra for the hell of it”

    4) University isn’t exactly paradise, its nothing like what you see in the movies, everyone walks about with a sad, chinned down face either because of the many pressure they’re faced with.

    5) the professor are not what we called “user friendly” approaching them for help will only help them remember your name just to fail you on the exam. They don’t want to be bothered during or after class. they’re the last one to enter the room and the first one to leave the room. Thank good for ratemyprof…com for giving us hope on finding that ONE professor who’s willing to help.

    Anyways thank you all for posting your comments, sharing my post with everyone brings me encouragement to continue my loong suffering journey.

    Wednesday, April 4, 2007 at 05:06 #
  151. Laura wrote::

    I’m so glad I’ve found this site. I’m at york st john university. I’ve been studying for 3 years and I have little over a month to go, my dissertation is due in in 7 days and I just can not seem to do it. I’ve been really, really ill for the past year and a half and it’s knocked me completely off my feet. I hate university so much, I get no help from my tutors even when I’m screaming at them for it. It’s completely ruined my life, destroyed my passion for a subject I used to love (art and textiles) and driven me up the wall. On top of it all I know I’ll be brutally murdered by my parents if I give up now, even though I reckon i’ll probably fail anyway.

    Thursday, April 12, 2007 at 09:04 #
  152. Akilae wrote::

    i havent posted on here in a while, but i still keep up with it. :)

    today i have finally decided to leave uni, and its the best feeling ever. :D im unsure what im going to do next but its got to be better than university.

    remember guys, we only have one life there is no point in spending it miserable. do what makes you happy.

    i wish all of you the best of luck in life :)

    Akilae

    Monday, April 23, 2007 at 13:49 #
  153. shay wrote::

    Good luck to you Akilae, that’s a very brave decision you just made. I’m trying to get up the courage to do the same ASAP.

    Tuesday, April 24, 2007 at 03:03 #
  154. Joe wrote::

    Uni sux!
    The people are heartless, well at least the people in my subject. Agrhh!

    I had an exam at this place which was like a 20 min walk from the uni and I was in a rush and forgot my umbrella.

    So when i was walking towards this place it was ok. But after the exam I walked all the way back to uni without an umbrella. NOT even 1 person offered there one, just for the walk back. All i saw was people walking past me…

    So i was totally soaking wet, plus i have to travel like an 1hr and a bit back hope. Bus, train then walk. Uni sux!!

    Wednesday, April 25, 2007 at 13:29 #
  155. deano wrote::

    Arg my uni have moved the exams a month early so i now have half the time to revise which is two weeks not enough, ruined my summer as i will prb have to retake even then they have a limit to which the marks can go to what a joke the lecturers are also if they dont like you they dont help you once again its not what you know but who you know. sucks ass, just texd my gf she coming over to cheer me up

    Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:39 #
  156. weet dissy wrote::

    i wanna get wrecked but cant as im at cuntish university and have to do cuntish, wanky essays, that are crap and utterly useless.If this is the sort of information i need for later in life im not looking foward to getting old.
    Fuck it
    Fuck the whole thing!!!!!

    Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 07:34 #
  157. mabel wrote::

    i am so very very unhappy in university. i know this year was tough for me for a lot of reasons other then school and so my grades slipped. i was even seeing a councellor. i thought i was doing better but i just found out i failed THREE of my classes. omg. i knew i wasn’t doing well but I didn’t realize it was that bad. i really just don’t know if university was the right choice for me in the first place. it’s so overwhelming to have so many courses going on at the same time. i can’t enjoy any of it! i love learning, i really do. i use to the read the encyclopedia as a kid for fun. i love the satisfaction of teaching myself something new. it’s true, i learn most of my stuff from the textbooks, not the lecture. i’m wondering if maybe i should just take one or two courses a year and start working on paying back my RIDICULOUS student loans. why does education have to be so damn expensive??? i love the idea of getting a degree (i’d be the first in my family to get one), but am i willing to stick it through? can i do this? more importantly, is this what i want? and how in the world does anyone expect to be able to focus on courses when they have to work their ass off to support themselves?!?! OSAP never gives enough to even pay the rent! much less buy food for the year! goddamn monopoly. i feel privleaged to be getting a “higher education” but at the same time I can’t help but feel so spiteful over what i don’t have. i wish i had rich parents like most of the suburbian university students at my school. then i wouldn’t have to worry about making ends meet while memorizing 200 slides for the next exam. i wish i had my mommy or daddy pick up me after class each day and take me home, make me dinner and pay for designer clothes and ipods. god, i’m still wearing clothes i had in high school. okay, okay, i’m done ranting, but it feels good to get out of my system. :o )

    Monday, April 30, 2007 at 12:04 #
  158. Carina Talmey wrote::

    Just failed another essay – Uni totally ripped it apart.

    I need to know when to give up…

    Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 17:48 #
  159. Carina Talmey wrote::

    I’ve just been reading some of the previous comments, and to all the people on here telling us to pull ourselves together, stop moaning, get on with it, or anything else to that effect, what the hell are you doing on this website? If Uni is so wonderful, go and talk about it somewhere else. To all the people that have offered support and understanding, thank you, it is only those people that can appreciate what others are going through, how much they hate Uni, why they hate Uni, and the struggle of what decisions to make in a world that feels totally out of control.

    Everyone’s situation is different, and everyone should do what’s right for them, but only THEY can make that decision for themselves. So please, to the people who think we’re just moaning, don’t patronise us by making out we’re just making a big deal out of nothing. For some people, Uni can push you to something of a suicidal level. And that’s not over-dramatising, that’s HOW IT IS.

    And to those who think being a student is easy, and we don’t know the meaning of hard work, I’d question whether you ever went to Uni. Plus I would just like to point out that I work MORE than full-time to fund this stupid course during my inappropriately named ‘holidays’ – 20-hour days, and still never enough money. So don’t tell me I don’t have any idea of hard work.

    Sorry for the rant, all the people that use this site for the support for which it is intended. Just needed to get that off my chest.

    Thinking of all of you feeling the way I do tonight. x

    Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 06:12 #
  160. Matt wrote::

    Hey there,

    Who was that person who also went to UQ? It’s good to find out that there are other people at my uni who feel the same way. I am sure there are many more. It’s a shame that people get so lonely at uni, I don’t know whose fault it is. I try not blame myself because I make honest attempts at making friends, but you are right about people not wanting to make friends at UQ. That is exactly what it is like with me, you try your best and people just seem cold and indifferent. I am sure they got problems too. I wish I knew why it was like that, when you find the cause you can find the solution but I have no idea what causes people to become isolated at places like universities.

    Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 15:45 #
  161. cookingfat wrote::

    Hi I am so pleased I found this site. Reading your comments had really given me peace of mind. I withdrew from uni in December and I have wondered since i it was the right thing to do. Reading what you all have to say has reminded me of why I left and helped me to see how fortunate I am now. I loved studying but hated being a mature student with such diferent priorities and never fitting in. Im doing a degree part time with the Open University now and I loved it. I have a nice little job, not degree related but nice and I can juggle all of this with my family responsiblites. Anyway enough rambling I just wanted to say it takes alot of maturity and self awareness to be able to admit you are unhappy and deal with all of the pressures that you all do on a daily basis. Whatever you decide to do (stay or go) try to remember it is your future and your decision hard as it may be with family pressures etc. Good luck to you all and thank you for posting so honestly it really is great to know that people are sharing similar experiences. For those who do not realise how hard uni can be take a moment to think about your friends at uni. Are they real friends or just poeple you spend time with. Thanks again.

    Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 07:07 #
  162. Emma wrote::

    I read all the comments and I can relate to many of them. i study Psychology and found that it is a rather pointless subject as everything is based on theories they can’t prove pretty much. I have three more exams and then I have finished my first year. It went surprisingly quickly. I find that there are lot of fake people at university. They’re more concerned about quantity of friendships rather than quality. I haven’t made any friends on my course at all apart a girl I know from secondary school who I was friends with before. I only see her in lectures though. She gets on really well with her housemates. Me on the otherhand do not in the slightest. They’re intimidating and they like to do pranks on me and shit and I know they talk about me behind my back. I hardly ever go in the kitchen to eat as I’m scared of seeing any of them. I pretty much go hungry all day and creep in there late at night or not at all and just keep food that doesn’t need to be in the freezer/fridge and eat it in my room. Right now I am sick of seeing these same four walls and I can’t wait to go home for summer.

    I hate how things are taught at uni. You hardly have any lectures and its practically a self taught subject, reading loads of books. I can’t see how that could cost three grand. Anyways, due to my lack of motivation to go to lectures due to them being pointless and me being too down to even get up at all so I slept my days away and never read the books. Now I am suffering for it as I know I’ll have to resit my exams. *sigh* I wish I had motivation to do stuff, I really do.

    Uni was really tough until I joined a society. I’m alternative and joined a society for alternative people. At first i thought it would be really cliquey as everyone is the same and won’t like anyone who isn’t a certain way etc. I thought this as I only have one alternative friend back home the rest are “normal” looking or whatever. Back home everyone is different as we grew up together since we were 11 and nobody cared about what each other looked like or was into, we just clicked. I found the society to have people who were quite mature and they didn’t have the fake aquaintance talking bullshit, they actually wanted to know you. I found something to enjoy at uni at last although all the other shit still kept me down. I am quite shy but how i got to make friends in the society was to go to every event and make myself seen and it paid off. I joined other societies but they didn’t work out the same and I don’t go to them anymore.

    I find if you force yourself into a situation you wonldn’t normally like to be in it can sometimes be beneficial. I’m hoping university will be better when I live in a house with people, not who I am neccassarily close to but not the wankerish people I’m with now. I guess what I’m trying to say is if you still have some positive things to say about the university your in try and keep on at it, it may be different next year. Good luck to everyone.

    Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 08:45 #
  163. Anon wrote::

    Thank you all so much for your honesty. Your comments have been a true comfort over the past year.

    I posted a while ago, I’ve finally handed in my 30,000 words worth of essays, projects and dissertation. I will make a formal complaint about the way my thesis supervisor treated me so that other students won’t be ditched like that last minute.

    Other than that, I’m just coming to terms with the fact that uni is finally over, 3 years of pain are finished. I’m thankful for the few good friends I made and the uni counsellor who helped me to relieve so much of my stress and anxiety over this past year.

    It was a painful experience but I’m glad that I managed to stick it out because I can move on now and make a real life for myself.

    Am hoping to move abroad to do a fully funded internship for a year and hope to study abroad after that on a scholarship.

    I had to do this initial degree for career reasons and I survived it. I know it may sound melodramatic but trust me these past few years of uni and my life in general as been so full of drama that I can’t wait to move on grow as a person elsewhere and have lots of fun…before I came to uni I used to party and have a great time.

    For those of you who are still in the system, decided if its right for you or not. If not, you could transfer to another course or look into your options.

    It seems as if lots of people take science based subjects when they don’t have a passion for it. Why not consider something related to communication and people skills? This thread is full of people who are excellent communicators why not utilise those skills?

    If it is right for you to stay at uni I highly recommened that you use the counselling services and support groups offered by your uni and do as much as you can to help yourself.

    There are useful online tips as well as books about reading academic texts and writing essays and dissertations, seek them out and try them, they might help.

    Tell your friends and family about the situation, get support and help from them if possible.

    Write a diary and reflect on the situation.

    Join clubs and societies.

    And most of all stay calm, eat well and try and get some sleep, you’ll figure it out.

    Thanks again everyone,
    your comments have truely helped.
    I wish you all the best of luck. And I hope you all enjoy the summer.

    x

    Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:26 #
  164. Chris wrote::

    Good advice there anon. I’m probably the odd one on this thread as I for one never even made it to university. All I managed to get at A2 was three low A-levels and a U in physics. Alas, those grades have driven me into much depression and they did when I was at college. How an A’s and B’s grade student at GCSE could barely get higher than a C during the A-level courses really perplexed my mind, to the point where I was nearly broken and nothing but a hollow shell. In the end, I stayed at college only because I feared going to work so much.

    Finding this thread really reminds me why this happened. I, as many of you people became sick of the studying and the loneliness, work your butt off in the first year, only to do poorly in the exams anyway and fall into a slump then disillusioned and depressed with the future which failed your idealistic vision. But I feel sad, as many of you deserved to do well far better than I ever did only for the mirror of illusion to shatter, taking your dreams and soul with them, taking far more than my failed dream took from me.

    But there is light at the end of the tunnel you know. I work in an office now, the money is terrible but every evening and weekend the slate is wiped clean for me to spend my time how I wish, if I want to study calculus or read Plato I can do it how I like, when I like and as much as I like. The college I left just last June seems not long ago at all, but also a different era entirely so much so it seems it was nothing but a dream I imagined, I suppose it was as my dreams upon entering were probably not to be, at least not through that route.

    I don’t know if I’ll ever try and redo my A-levels through distance learning, as I still recall how fed up I was of the whole institution and process in my final A level exams. But I still believe, one way or another my dreams can still be fulfilled if I put my mind to it.

    So to those who are rotting inside due to their horrid predicaments, just follow your heart, and with enough determination and enough thought into the right decision, you’ll eventually get to your destination. I hope I’ve been some help, guess this flunker was good for something after all.

    Thursday, May 24, 2007 at 05:52 #
  165. Chica wrote::

    Hey it’s not all bad. Sure I hated studying law. No, I hate studying. Period. But I did manage to skip all of my lectures and instead bought a piano and now I’m on Grade 6. So, Uni has been good. It was so dull it pushed me to play piano, something I’ve always wanted to learn but never had the patience to practice. Uni, however, was even more boring so I just swam a lot and played the piano and sat in cafes. Oh yeah I managed to get a 2.1. So you can beat the system. Use your free time to do something enjoyable.

    Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 06:07 #
  166. Liz wrote::

    “Use your free time to do something enjoyable”

    Free time? What free time? Oh, the free time that I use to crash out because I feel exhausted nearly all the time.

    Actually, it’s got slightly better in my third term. Mainly because I’ve just stopped caring whether or not I get into my next year. And I’ve started to do things now like ballroom dancing, art, making things and activities that I actually enjoy.

    My grades have almost definitely crashed. But my quality of life has improved. Am thinking of packing it in, even though that would mean packing in The Plan – that’s been around for about seven years.

    It would disappoint everyone I know – possibly myself included. But it isn’t like this is the only chance I get. If I find that a degree is absolutely necessary later on life, doing an open university course sounds like the way forward.

    My tuppence worth, anyway.

    Thursday, June 7, 2007 at 20:45 #
  167. Carina wrote::

    Liz, I totally understand where you’re coming from. This year my grades have also crashed spectacularly, pretty much because I’ve stopped caring (not that they were that great before, I just didn’t see the point of working flat-out 24/7 with bugger all reward for my efforts). I’ve started doing stuff I wanna do now, taking time out when I want to, and I feel so much better than when I was putting my heart and soul into Uni.

    Live your life, you only get one and there’s no rehearsals. Enjoy yourself while you can. Don’t let Uni rule you. It’s not worth it. x

    Monday, June 11, 2007 at 21:16 #
  168. Kelly wrote::

    I hated living on Campus in my first year, so instead my plan is to live at home and commute to my university. It is a one hour drive away. Do people think this is a stupid idea? There is no way I am living at Uni again so it is either drive the hour there and back for my lectures (about 12 hours per week probably spread over 3/4 days) or quit. I have applied to a London University which would take up to an hour to get there on 2 trains, (but could take as little as 30 mins on a good day) – however, I don’t like this Uni very much and I might not even be able to go there yet as they made specifications about the grades I got in my first year exams. Please people I need some support, I am scared about the driving – will I be able to do it? Anyone know people who do a similar journey? Help…please comment back on this! x x x

    Friday, June 22, 2007 at 03:46 #
  169. Carina wrote::

    Kelly, I think if Uni is important enough to you the drive will be OK, it’s got to be better than living at Uni if it made you so miserable. I know people that drive an hour and back when they are on placements and this suits them better than living away.

    It sounds like Uni is important to you, so maybe try the commute and see how it goes? At least then you will have given it a go. And maybe you will find some new people you might wanna stay or live with at Uni.

    Sorry, that’s probably been no help whatsoever! Hopefully someone who does a similar drive will comment. Good luck with whatever you choose, I’ll think of you. x

    Sunday, June 24, 2007 at 05:33 #
  170. Liz wrote::

    Thanks for the comment Carina … :)

    So … results come out next week and it’s basically been hinted at that I’ve failed one paper. The thing is that it’s not as simple as being told “Pack your bags, you’re out” if you fail the first year. My Director of Studies can write a letter of recommendation and that way I can get into next year. The question is, do I want him to do that?

    If I stay: Things could get better, I could be less depressed/stressed and, at the end of it all, I could feel proud of myself for sticking with it.
    If I stay: Things could stay the same, and I could be depressed for the next 2 years and possibly end up failing anyway – Waste of time and money.
    If I leave: I might regret that I didn’t persevere.
    If I leave: I could find some work I find satisfying, albeit lowly paid; I could still get a degree (from the Open University); and I could develop my talents, hobbies, etc.

    Any thoughts?

    Tuesday, June 26, 2007 at 01:06 #
  171. katie wrote::

    EMMA u just described me!i cant believe it that u feel and act the same as ive done, i feel so much better that someone else feels exactly the same way about psychology. i also didnt step foot in the kitchen untill i knew no one was there-i resorted to eatin cold beans just so that i didnt have to see the ppl on my hall or go to tesco and get ready made meals that i could eat straight away!its pathetic when i look back but i hated them so much. im also going to have to resit as i failed most of my stats-i never knew there would be so much maths!and ure right about all the theories-what a useless course. im only tryin to stick with it because i still cling to the thought that i actually want to be a clinical psychologist-although this course is making me think twice!hope u see this and know that someone else expereinced exactly what u have!

    katie

    Thursday, June 28, 2007 at 15:53 #
  172. Anon wrote::

    I just got my results today and they are excellent, a 2.1! I’m glad I stuck it out and lasted the 3 years. It was really tough and painfull but it was best for me so I stuck with it.

    Before you decide to quit Uni review your options and do as much as you can to better the situation. (See my previous post for some suggestions) Do what’s best for you as an individual.

    Anyway Kelly, I think driving is a great idea. I commuted to college 1.30 hour each way on 3 trains and I managed it. You can do it!

    Thanks for all of your comments, they are a true comfort. Good luck everyone!

    Thursday, July 5, 2007 at 06:57 #
  173. Carina wrote::

    Congratulations on your 2:1! It’s so wonderful to hear a success story and know that there is light at the end of the tunnel! I wish you a happy and successful career, and enjoy your newfound freedom and the thought that you never have to go back there again! Well done x :-D

    Sunday, July 8, 2007 at 06:49 #
  174. Kate wrote::

    I stuck out three awful, awful years at University. For nothing. The degree has STOPPED me getting work because it’s a useless bit of paper. For five years I’ve either been suffering horribly at Uni or because of it. University has taken my life away and I will never, ever get that back. It’s a disgusting environment full of nasty little bullies who just want to drink, screw and snipe other people.

    Friday, July 13, 2007 at 18:20 #
  175. Niomi wrote::

    true true true 2 all u ppl. uni is so shit n wit £3000+ worth of tutuion it makes even harder 2 drop out cos the of money. just finished 1st year at art uni hate everything bout uni. the corse isnt wat is cracks out 2 be, the teachers r fukkin weirdos, n the ppl are just sooo dam fake. everyday ev1 says hi 2 each other n its so fake cos thats it n wantin 2 kno wats marks u have n stuff n comparing every1! and if sumdays u just arent in the mood and arnt grinning like a fake chesire cat ppl persome you are a miserable fag or sum1 has died. every1 is soo bitchy and up there ass it isnt a nice environment 2 be in 5 days a week 9.30 – 500pm with the ‘click groups’ proper brown nosing the teachers! arghhhhhhhhh i suppose it shud be expected on art courses n compettion n stuff but drives me insane. only made 1 friend who dropped out half way through (dont blame her at all).ppl have even stolen my possensions treating ppl awful. cos im from up yorkshire ppl take the mik out of my accent sayin i sound jamican and how yorkshire ppl r poor n scruffs and im supposed 2 sit there n say nothing.now i kno wat 2 expect 4 the nxt year i just dont care anymore just gotta get on with it. i aint a quitter just gotta tell my self 2 more years then im gettin the hell out of here!

    Sunday, July 22, 2007 at 22:52 #
  176. cat wrote::

    i absolutely hate my university hell hole maybe i should of left in my 1st year but thought it would get better, obviously not- but have to stick it out as spent so much money poured into tuition fees/rent and only have a year left. Its been one of the worst decisions of my life had such a miserable time on my fashion and textile course 9-5pm 5 days a week stuck in a studio on the top floor of a hill! The people there are so clicky especially as its all girls and for 1) not getting into halls didnt help as it stopped me making nice friends, 2) Intimidating teachers who act more like bullys by putting you down and told how u r useless in front of 30 peolpe 3) living in a house where knowone gets on 4) expected to do rediculus amounts of work and produce fantastic projects in an horrble environment not even related to what your doing 5) no support and treated like a piece of shit, I can honestly say that i would never go again and that its taken everything out of me, even to the point where i’ve become ill and rundown from the stress , failed a module had a dr’s note to proove it and then told that i have to redo the whole thing again over summer aswell as a dissertation and another project and i seem to be the only one who feels like this, its like your not allowed to have a life outside university what about people who need to work to support their fees?!! And what am i going to get out of it after all this?!

    Tuesday, July 31, 2007 at 04:46 #
  177. Luke wrote::

    I Hate my course and feel like i have wasted the last two years of my life doing nothing. The worst thing about it is that most, not all there are exceptions, of the lecturers are people who never made it in the real world and have to resort to teaching others. A lot of them are socially inept and drive u insane with the crap they carry on with. I also find it extremely difficult to concentrate on studying because im not enjoying my course but to change course u need to get good marks which equates to study more, its all a load of political waste. I believe if someone has the desire to pursue a course of which they have some experience ie work experience then you have more of a desire to coplete that cousre and therefore should be allowed to change soley based on choice. I Fucking Hate uni

    Monday, August 6, 2007 at 22:33 #
  178. anonynous wrote::

    i hate uni too….its so hard to make friends and everyone just cares about themself…so amazingly boring…oh well.

    Monday, August 13, 2007 at 11:34 #
  179. Liam wrote::

    I hated uni so much last year. I was doing a computing course at an annoyingly competitive university. I dropped out in the third term because i couldn’t take the stress any longer and am reapplying to a new uni this year to do an art course, hoping that it will attract a better kind of people. Competitiveness is not a good thing.

    Monday, August 13, 2007 at 17:21 #
  180. Can Catan wrote::

    I hated the University life. Obviously there were reasons for that. My University was so boring. I never found good parties any thing down there. Students were so bullshit so so bullshit you can not believe it. They never mix with you and even if they want to socialise with you there is something behind that. Some of them were really contemptuous and malevolent. I can’t believe myself that I managed to complete 9 years. For the sake of degrees and for good career I had to do that. It is very hard for the overseas students. I was one of them. You are away from home and it is a different culture. Now every morning when I wake up, I am glad that I managed to survive down there. I mixed so different student from overseas countries they were similar to me miserable, lack of motivation and looking for escape. It was like in Tim Robbin’s the famous movie ‘shawshank redemption’. You know prison life. So sorry for the depressive comments but I just wanted to express myself.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2007 at 03:52 #
  181. anonymouns wrote::

    its 5:50 in the morning, i went to bed at 3, so over this feeling of mind numbing tiredness, taken over by copious amounts of caffiene all for the sake of getting a passing grade, so close to goin back to bed right now….fuck uni

    Monday, September 3, 2007 at 04:26 #
  182. Dave wrote::

    The man is keeping us down…

    Every time I get interested in something and go off on a tangent (maybe too creative) I get shit marks.

    It serves to remind me I can do well as long as I prescribe to the marking criteria of whoever is marking. Apparently you save the creativity for your post doctorate work (as honors is a bitch and you just want to get it done).

    By then you’re a part of the system and the man keeps on keeping you down. What happened to the idea of a university that helped the world? It seems to have accelerated things but life is no better, I heard a funny statistic the other day that on average a research article is read 7 times including the mother of the person who wrote it.

    Democracy in education, and allowing people to choose what is important to learn rather than being constricted to rubrics and measuring individual potential is alway overlooked…

    I tried some shit in real life from my course. Turns out in the real world normal people don’t understand recruitment practices or standard operating procedures, succession management etc…

    and why should they? it’s all invented by some guy trying to pass his honors thesis or continuing on the mistake he made in his honours thesis in his post doctoral work.

    Idiots all of them, I’m gonna learn skydiving or that sport where you ski and then shoot some targets for some reason, something more exciting than this shit later just to have the satisfaction of saying I finished and can confirm it is a total and utter load of shit.

    Monday, September 3, 2007 at 22:41 #
  183. yar wrote::

    Agree with all of the above. University = A waste of time and money that would be better spent travelling and seeing the world. I hate the fact that each course costs about 800$ the textbooks another 200$. Then theres the no good professors who just regurgitate what the textbooks say!! So whats the bloody point of wasting my money travelling to class to listen to something I could just read. I say fight the system!!! Bring down the uni institution

    Tuesday, September 4, 2007 at 12:59 #
  184. Kelly wrote::

    I got in to a London Uni which means I can live at home and commute in on two trains which should not take more than an hour. I am transferring so I will go in to year 2. This is scary for me as I will not know anyone but I am not expecting to make any great friends, I am just glad I have a chance to complete my degree and live at home with my family. My boyfriend is starting Uni too in a couple of weeks. He lives 3 hours away from me but luckily is going to a Uni which is about 1 hour away. This means I will get to see him more than last year. It is hard though because we have been together every day this summer staying at each others houses for weeks and going on holidays. Its been about 3 months together so it will be horrible when we both start Uni and dont get to see each other every day. He has promised we will be together at least 3 nights or more each week though. I should be happy – things seem to have worked out Ok and me and my bf have agreed to live together next year which will make me very happy. I am just scared. I will still miss him and be scared going to Uni. I wish Uni didn’t exist, we would be living together and working by now. I have had no positive experience from Uni, the only good thing will be when I get my degree. x x x x

    Wednesday, September 5, 2007 at 20:22 #
  185. jim jones wrote::

    Down with the man! Get the monkey off my back!

    Sunday, September 9, 2007 at 08:49 #
  186. erin wrote::

    I’m so glad I’ve found this site. I really really hate university living and I’m only a week in. My classes are about to start, so I’m hoping it will get better in that respect, but I absolutely hate living down at university. Despite how childish it probably sounds I miss living with my family, especially my brothers. And I miss my friends.

    My parents have compromised by letting me stay at home, if I commute the hour and a half down to university. I’ve made it clear to them there’s no way I can stay and this is the best they can do, which I appreciate.

    It just seemed like everyone had made friends with each other and I’d been left to get on with it and nobody cared. I was absolutely miserable and have become quite ill.

    I know it sounds stupid with it just being a week down there, but it’s the only option I can really see. If I stick at it I think I’ll just get more and more unhappy.

    I hope somebody out there understands and I’m really hoping commuting will work out.
    I see a few other people have done it or were considering it.
    Did it work out?

    I’d be glad for any input.

    Thanks.

    Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 22:33 #
  187. Kelly wrote::

    Hi erin, I moved out my university accomodation last year and attempted to commute to and from. However, I was even further away than you are and often a journey could take over two hours! I was missing a lot and not enjoying myself at all. However, I managed to transfer Universities and this year will be going to a Uni much closer to home, about an hour commute, sometimes less.

    I start next week and am very nervous but looking forward to going somewhere where I can come home every night. I must say though – one of the main reasons I did not just give up is because I have a boyfriend who is fairly long distance and although I spend weekends with him, the holidays at Uni are long and with him going to Uni this year too it is important to know we can get lots of time together in the holidays.

    It is not at all silly to be wanting to leave after a week – I was the same and I never got used to it and enjoyed it. People will try and tell you that you havent given it enough time and maybe they will be right but I know for me that it wasnt right and was never going to be.

    How will you be commuting? If it is by train it makes a difference because you can use that time to read etc. thats what I plan to do. If you are driving however, I think this will be harder and possibly quite stressful.

    I am not really sure that Uni is for me, and have told myself that if I hate my new Uni then I will leave and get a job or do a college course or something. It means I loose the holidays with my boyfriend but if I am that unhappy it is what will have to happen. Hopefully though I will get used to it and find it ok. Is there a Uni closer to your home? Maybe you could put up with a longer commte this year and try and transfer next year? I would say though that living away on campus is not for everyone and you will probably be happier commuting.

    Hope I have helped a bit – although probably a bit biased from someone who hates Uni!!

    Kelly x x x

    Friday, September 14, 2007 at 20:08 #
  188. BJ wrote::

    When i first began uni i used to push through my modules regardless of how difficult they were and somehow come out with half decent grades. I used to attend regularly and even go to the campus to study when i didnt have to. I’m now in my 3rd year and now at risk of being thrown out due to repeated failure. I try in every way to find something that will keep me motivated and keep me interested in uni just for the sake of obtaining my degree but that is becoming increasingly difficult to do.

    The other day i forced myself to sit in the foyer on campus and do some study. i managed to complete about half an hours worth before as usual i get zapped by some sort of invisible field that cripples me and destroys my ability to think. I then spent another half hour trying to hold my thoughts together before packing my stuff up and going home. I honestly don’t know if ill be able to make it. This is not how its meant to be, uni life is meant to be joyous and fruitful not like the sensation of drowning.

    All i can do is keep fighting, i sincerely hope that everyone on this site makes it one way or another,

    BJ

    Tuesday, September 18, 2007 at 08:15 #
  189. katie wrote::

    back to uni this sunday, ive left it as late as possible to go back. im dreading it!i keep being told that second year will be better than the first, do i beleve them?NO!i really dont want to go back to uni life!!!!

    Monday, September 24, 2007 at 22:25 #
  190. Beliz wrote::

    I just stareded Uni down South, I have been here two weeks and I have already given in my resignation… I don’t feel like a failure for it either, although my parents are pretty set on the idea that I am… I got an A in psychology which is what i want to study still at uni even though i have given up on this one. I found the people so cold and depressing that I just couldnt hack it, it was rubbing off on me. I didnt see the point on me staying in a place where all my self-motivation has disapeared.
    I need a fresh start, so the south is over for me. But im pretty confidant that I can start again and get it right this time, in a place where the people and the lectures are for me. Because where i am right now they are rude and cold and empty. Its just not who i am. I am so motivated normally, so confidant in myself, but in two weeks I have been stripped of that, and to me thats just not right, wherever I am and whatever im doing i should know in myself that i can achieve and am capable because i have never had that doubt inmyself before.
    the lonliness here is also unbearable, with lonlieness there is no happiness, it doesnt matter where abouts you are in the world as long as you have friends and are happy
    xxx

    Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 22:54 #
  191. Jon wrote::

    Been here a week. Short time you could say, but time goes slowly when you’re so fucking alone. I’ve spoken to people, some even spoke back but this place has made me so empty already. Debating in my head whether to drop out, take the shit from my family, get a minimum wage job and count pay cheques till I kill myself … or just do it now and cut out the trouble.

    Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 10:33 #
  192. RM1 wrote::

    hi i hate university as hell. i havent studied shit ever since it began 1 year ago and i just barely passed my first lesson without even ever studying, lol

    i hate all the competition and everything and i’ve got better things to do than waste the best years of my life studying :#

    Monday, October 1, 2007 at 23:58 #
  193. Carina wrote::

    Hey everyone, I’m back at Uni for my 4th and FINAL year, literally just got back and start tomorrow (I always leave it as late as possible, too). Dreading being back but can almost see the light at the end of the tunnel, this time next year I will be free of this place forever. I do feel better knowing that it’s my last year. But I just wanted to say hi to all of those people who feel the same as me about Uni, I really am thinking of you, and I hope we can all get through our experiences somehow, whether that means pushing ourselves through Uni, or having the courage to leave and pursue a different path in life. Whatever that may be, remember that the most important thing is YOUR happiness, not everyone else’s. I’m only still here cos I know I need my degree to do my chosen career, and I desperately want to do that career, so it is right for me. But that doesn’t make me hate it any less.

    Thinking of you all, thank you for providing me with so much comfort and encouragement in understanding how I and so many other people feel x

    Thursday, October 4, 2007 at 01:04 #
  194. Jerie wrote::

    I thought I was all alone, but I’m glad to find other like-minded people!

    Society places WAY too much emphasis on getting a university degree, despite the fact that it makes many people miserable, overworked, exhausted and broke. Making friends is nearly impossible (what with the frustrating amount of conformist jocks and clubbing-kids), getting all the work done requires an unreasonable amount of time (all hours of the day, minus the 5 hours of sleep a night) and the result – at least for people in the arts like me – tends to be an undergraduate degree you can’t do anything with unless you go on to get a graduate, bachelors of education or some other form of extra schooling.

    Thursday, October 4, 2007 at 03:54 #
  195. John wrote::

    I am at Lancaster university and i absolutely hate it. I am in my forth year, i don’t think i am going to make it through this year. i have lots of friends, and take part in lots of uni activities but i just hate all of it. to all that read this PLEASE for heavens sake avoid Lancaster Uni, the advertising and open days are very inviting but please please avoid unless you like being unhappy.

    Sunday, October 7, 2007 at 23:31 #
  196. Alex wrote::

    Oh god i started my first year about a month ago and i just realized that im not a fucking scholar, i hated the copious amounts of reading (4 science courses, each with at least 2 hours of reading a god damned day) +1 hour commute + lectures i barely have time to do jack SHIT and this is only the beggining.

    Man this shit is so pointless whats the point of even attending university, you dont learn shit you only learn how to take shit, fall down, get back up and take even more shit. I’d rather be perpetually inebriated than live as a depressed peice of shit making 100k.

    Monday, October 8, 2007 at 03:54 #
  197. Scrumpy.gums wrote::

    arrggggghhh………i’m so shitting lonely. I hateee university. Everyone’s more interested in getting pissed than anything else….if you don’t like clubbing then ur fucked….no1 wants to know you cos ur ‘boring’.

    Glad there’s at least some ppl out ther feeling the same way I do….I really hate this shit…definitely the unhappiest days of my life, all I wanna do is go back home to my friends and family, but if I do then every1 will look at me as a dropout. If it wasn’t for my PC I would have killed myself by now for sure.

    Monday, October 8, 2007 at 05:28 #
  198. Uni Hater wrote::

    Finally, I’ve found some people in the same situation as me :-)
    I’ve been at Uni for just over 3 weeks now, and i honestly cant stand it. I’ve been ditching lectures left, right and centre cos I’m not in the right frame of mind for education whatsoever. I’m changing my courses but that’s only really to show my family that I’m at least trying to make an effort to stay here. I can see myself being back home by the end of the month (at least i hope so).
    The people here are all so outgoing compared to me – i dont hold that against them; i just find it impossible to talk to them and relate to them. My flatmates all know eachother and get along so well and im just the social outcast who cant even cook!
    i just want to be back home with my real friends where i feel happy and comfortable.
    Now how do i go about dropping out of this hellhole?!

    Monday, October 8, 2007 at 17:15 #
  199. Leigh wrote::

    I hate Uni. There is no way around that, I go everyday to be looked down upon by snobby students and talked down to be lecturers who think they are to far above them to even notice that they have students. Add to that the work which feels that it has been taped onto the course with no relevance or regard to the time you need to spend doing it. This is my first year of Uni and as it draws to close I find it impossible in my mind to even consider coming back next year to this place with its ridiculous rules and stupid organization. Changing courses didn’t help me as the university administration stuffed up my change so now I find out I’ve wasted half a year doing subjects I cannot sit an exams for. People here are not friendly; they seem to think that they can make their own time more bearable by making others time more unbearable. I know it sounds like I am complaining but its not so much complaining as stating the facts of it. I’m glad to know that I’m not the only one who hates Uni and the ridiculous notion that we need to get ourselves a piece of paper to prove how smart we are to rest of the world. Good Luck to every one else on here, I hope you can either fight through it or find a better way.

    Tuesday, October 9, 2007 at 06:04 #
  200. katie wrote::

    hi everyone well ive been back just over a week and guess what its just as bad as my first year. im so bored i got up at half seven and came to the computer room this am. the lectures are the same (lecturer reading powerpoint). the people are all the same just want to get pissed. the only thing i enjoy here is playing football.i cant wait to go home this thurs for the weekend although i know i will find it dam hard making myself come back.its going to be another crap year but im glad ive got you guys on this site making me feel as though what im going through is normal and that im not some freak just because i think uni is hell!!!!!

    Tuesday, October 9, 2007 at 16:28 #
  201. Salvanas wrote::

    I do find it the most miserable place. Atleast when i was working i felt sedated by the earnings. And now, looking out from both paths, all options seem a snare. Even now, with 2 weeks till completion, i wish to leave it more then ever. All I have to say is: How ugly it all is.

    Thursday, October 11, 2007 at 17:30 #
  202. Lemon wrote::

    Uni is terrible. Lectures are irrelevant bullshit with so many pointless assignments and extra classes. Not worth the pay cheque the degree ‘might’ get you. Surrounded by so many people, and I’ve never felt so alone before in my life. There are people i know well enough here, but they’re not my real friends; I just feel empty around them. I feel closer to the people on this site than anyone i can touch right now.

    Monday, October 15, 2007 at 10:37 #
  203. naomi!! wrote::

    uni sucks i agree the people are nobs, all on crack and smack urgh!!!!!!! and jmu is the most unorganised uni everrr!!!!!!

    Tuesday, October 16, 2007 at 09:27 #
  204. Jade wrote::

    This is all very reassuring. I’m finding it incredibly difficult being at uni and it’s depressing when I look around me and everyone’s having fun. Most people seem to have formed their own little cliques already and I’m completely uninspired by my course and my surroundings, despite the fact I’m in a beautiful city. I keep returning home for the comfort and the familiarity and I can honestly say I have never felt so alone as I do here at university.

    Thursday, October 18, 2007 at 06:10 #
  205. Brendon Negenman wrote::

    University is really dragging me down I am in my third year for a geophysics major and i am regretting going into this field just because of money. It just always feels like your never good enough and its just a bunch of hoops you haveto jump through that you will rarely use when your working.

    I am a musician as well, I think i would be happier playing my guitar on the corner making money then going to classes and studying bullshit 24/7..

    Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 08:15 #
  206. Jamie wrote::

    Life changing experience… my ass!! Am at uni in London. The place is a fucking asylum. Arrogant pricks, unhelpful staff. As for the social side ha! What a joke, more like social apartheid.

    Friday, October 26, 2007 at 04:22 #
  207. oliver wrote::

    Wow. I’m really sick of uni. :/ I don’t drink therefore I don’t have an active social life (which is cool since I’ve got a bunch of friends I knew before uni anyway) and the whole time at uni no one gives a shit. I haven’t talked to anyone that I didn’t know from highschool. Once. I mean in my final year of high school I was extremely motivated and getting up to all kinds of stuff even staying at classes longer to finish projects because I actually LIKED the work. At Uni i’m a fricking unmotivated slob,I have no desire to stay at the place

    Friday, October 26, 2007 at 20:20 #
  208. Miss Anne Thrope wrote::

    I hate every moment of my existence here. There has to be another way.

    Saturday, October 27, 2007 at 06:38 #
  209. Jeff wrote::

    Its odd for me,I love the course I do English Lit and its my undying passion. Buts its life outside of lectures paradoxly I despise. My flatmates judge my lifestyle constantly and are a bunch of prigs who go bloody silent and bitch if I appear to be having a good time. The go on and on constantly about how many hours they work part time and how little cash the seem to have,want some advise??? Don’t buy shit you don;t need every day, and futher more if I want “piss my money away” then guess what I fucking will. So they are not hyper socilites with a dive for life,so what just wish they would not have a go at mer for being that way.bloody tossers.rant over

    Monday, October 29, 2007 at 05:03 #
  210. Jeff wrote::

    and by dive I mean “drive”, go I am so terrible at typing lol

    Monday, October 29, 2007 at 05:14 #
  211. Beliz wrote::

    hmmm so I moved unis a few weeks ago, and I must say I much prefer where I am now… but unfortunatly I am not the happiest chappy of the bunch…. hence the fact that I am back on this web page. I don’t know what it is exactly about uni that I don’t like. I mean… I had to write my first essay the other day… it had nothing to do with anything… I have exams every 2 weeks and each time I can’t help but feel a large competition going on between the people I talk to. Some of them are stuck up… others are down right lazy… I don’t understnad where this whole concept of uni being the best years of your life came from?
    What made it worse was when I went home.. my step mum is there stating how easy uni life is (shes never been), how easy the work is… how I’m lucky I’m there because well its simply a way to delay having to do anything with your life and hide from the responisiblity of work. Well I wanted to kil her… I was not happy… I am still not happy, although much better than my other uni as I already said. I had like a panic attack when I realsed that there is a whole other semester after this one that I have to get myself through. I have literally been counting down the days to when It is x-mas time. And I mean, I go home every single Thursday and come back every Sunday… If I didn’t have that to look forward to… I don’t know what I would be doing with myself right now. I would definatly not be here still… it would most def have been a gap year by now… I just can’t see myself here for the next 3 years.
    x

    Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 00:49 #
  212. Liz wrote::

    Have posted before, when I was utterly depressed, and was going to drop out after my first year, because I couldn’t cope with the work.

    I didn’t drop out. And things *have* got better since coming back.

    I’ve been getting counselling – I recommend it, especially if there’s a counselling service attached to the university. They’re paid to listen to you vent a little steam, and they’re able to help you too. As great as this site is for finding like-minded people, we’re all down the same hole, and can’t pull each other out, so we need someone from outside who can.

    I just wanted to say that, contrary to all my expectations, there is hope, after all.

    Thursday, November 1, 2007 at 21:46 #
  213. J wrote::

    wow thank you all for feeling the same way as i am. it seems like everyone is doing great and making tons of friends or have their own group. It’s my first year in uni and I’m the only one out of all my friends to go to uni so I’m basically by myself. I didnt think it would be this lonely, i was so excited to make new friends and meet new people. University has definately been less than what I anticipated.

    Friday, November 2, 2007 at 14:12 #
  214. noir wrote::

    AR GGG YESS!! in my head- today i shall quit, stop !!! flee from uni. flee from the idea of that piece of fucking paper that will apparently aid you in your search for the good life. bull shit. no i shall work, i shall travel i shall learn, i shall live i shall be on my own, i shall meet people, i shall learn a language, i shall find out what is inside of me, i shall read, i shall stuggle. i shall be free…… in my head.. where is the strangth to leave.. mid youth crisis … hmmmm

    Monday, November 5, 2007 at 12:43 #
  215. cs wrote::

    let things go naturally. be strong and optimistic. anyone can survive university. it’s only 5 year. at least for me. i only study little cause i’m not a scholar person. and i know that the things i memorize will not help me in life. if it wasn’t for my family, i’d start working after high school. just do two part time jobs and you’d make more than most people. or go to college and learn something useful and specific. university is just a game. but you won’t die without a degree. but no matter how hard things get, i’d force myself to finish this degree.

    Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 03:02 #
  216. AmedJones wrote::

    damn, i made a post about a year ago and this thread is still moving along… nice to see the endless struggle of university.

    my thought of university is still the same from my previous post. University sucks, I find it a complete waste of time. All these research, assignment and reading 30+ page a day for each course is completely useless. None of these material will aid me to my career. Screw university and the stupid paper and we all strive soo hard to earn.

    but i dont wanna be a loser who dropped out. the struggle must continue. there must be hope somewhere … ( pot and strip clubs does it for me)

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
    feels looks letting out my frustration anonymous

    Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 05:55 #
  217. TW wrote::

    I am about to receive my degree over an 11 year span, having left school to work full time for about 5 years. Three different colleges in two different states(I’m in the US). College sucked when I first started, and it sucked just as much during my last semester, 11 years later. What a scam. I largely self financed my “education” through long hours at dead end jobs, under a belief I had developed (fed to me by parents, counselors, and adult friends) that having a degree was vitally necessary, even to the point that it was impossible and immoral to exist as an adult without a degree! What a bunch of bullshit! That garbage is mostly on on my parents. But I believed it. Tens of thousands of dollars and 150 credit hours later all I’m left with is impractical knowledge, massive debt, a piece of paper, and a dull headache that never goes away. The satisfaction of feeding information into my brain for exams and then repeating the process hundreds of times across a wide variety of irrelevant subjects is Imitigated by the realization that I’ve been funding the comfortable upper class lives of the profs and administrators with money I busted my ass in dead end jobs to accumulate. Sounds like an enforced poverty scheme to me, yet one which has overwhelming societal support and enthusiasm.

    The world of work isn’t anything to get excited about either. You get to deal with cynical college educated assholes like me, every day! What a fucking nightmare! But at least you’re not paying to participate! At least as a human with material needs you are provided the financial mechanism of a paycheck to pay your rent, feed yourself, something all people should have the right to pursue without the self serving interference of appointed sages pushing their institution for their own material benefit.

    My life would be better today if I’d spent my youth as an illiterate and became a garbage man. That assertion can be demonstrated as fact. Forgettting the financial aspect, at least in the blue collar world I would have developed the self respect which goes along with adult self sufficiency. As to the profs and support staff who make a comfortable living from excessive tuition amounts many students go through real hardships to generate, those thieves can rot as far as I’m concerned. Fuck them.

    My bitter opinions won’t change anything, blowing up every university in the universe past/present/future won’t do a damn thing to the entrenched attitudes of the circus ringleaders, at least until a more intelligent life form comes along. No one will ever stop the momentum of society, despite what those greedy, self serving university assholes spew about intelligence and leadership.

    Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 12:59 #
  218. Mary wrote::

    I hate university. I am so glad there are others who feel the same. Everything I have read here gives vindicates my hatred.

    In respect of making friends, it usually takes me a long time, and I think everybody else as well, but university has created the ridiculous idea that friendships are formed within the first two weeks of starting, and that somehow you’re going to find all these people who you’ve been told about that are ‘just like you’ at a pyjama pub crawl or an 80’s theme disco. The falsehood sickens me. It’s ironic that those who feel alienated by this are branded ‘anti-social’, when where in society is this a n acceptable form of making proper friends?

    I’m in the process of deciding whether or not to stay or to go. I agree with an earlier post which said university is just a place for social stratification. I know if I stay it won’t be bad forever, but only because I would have been broken down so much as that I wouldn’t care anymore.

    Leaving university and breaking out of years of social conditioning is one of the bravest things anyone would have to do in life. I really do respect anyone who have left and pursued something that they really want to do and that means something to them.

    Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 23:17 #
  219. ben howe wrote::

    OK,

    first of all, thank god someone strated this up, because its bloody nice to know theres other people in the same place as you. i cant fucking stand it here at university, its the most indifferent, mind numbing experience of my life. surely we’re all asking the same question though in our heads? WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? im a musician and id love to leave, so, so much, but it really dosent seem like theres any alternative. some of you others must feel like this? how do you get out? im tied up with money constraints, a lack of trust in music colleges, lack of anywhere else to live, etc. What do i do? i know this is a bit of a shot in the dark, posting this up on the net, hoping someone sees and can be bothered to voice an opinion, but ive thought A LOT about this, and have exhausted directions to turn in my head. does anyone have ANYTHING to say about this?

    Monday, November 12, 2007 at 00:23 #
  220. Mary wrote::

    My first instinct is to say go and put all your energy into what you love and in to what will make you happy rather than stay on and have any energy and youthful zeal drained. I wish I had the courage, but my family are giving me a bit of a hard time about it.

    Monday, November 12, 2007 at 02:53 #
  221. ben howe wrote::

    cheers mary,
    i know what i should do but it seems theres something at every turn stopping you. Its so ingrained into society that this is what you should do, there’s hardly an alternative. to you i might say that it’s your life at the end of the day, so you need to do what you want, not what someone else wants, no matter how close they are to you. however, i know that saying and doing are two different worlds, and advice is easy to give. what would you do otherwise?

    Monday, November 12, 2007 at 06:52 #
  222. Mary wrote::

    It’s true, it seems your whole educational life has been a build up to this. But no one tells you how awful it is in reality.

    You’re right when you say saying is one thing, and doing is another. There’s always going to be ‘what ifs’ because we shall be going out into an uncertain ground, not advocated by teachers and parents and all those old figures of authority.

    Thanks for the advice ben, I’d like to be an assitant librarian actually, just have a pretty simple life!

    Monday, November 12, 2007 at 10:42 #
  223. Alison wrote::

    Hey, you’s should see if your university will allow you to defer a year and keep your place, so you have something to fall back on if you change your mind. However, I think you have to have medical back up.

    Tuesday, November 13, 2007 at 04:33 #
  224. Tim wrote::

    Hi guys, it’s nice to see other people who dont think UNI is great! I’m in my 2nd year of computer networks and i hate it! I’m going to drop out tomoz its shit

    Tuesday, November 13, 2007 at 05:21 #
  225. Jenn wrote::

    University is a fuckin bastard! God. I don’t even know where I start. I dropped out of my first year because I was so unhappy and didn’t have the mindset. I became a fuckin carpenter – which was my ultimate dream. But because they’ve been building less houses around my city, I couldn’t make enough money and I had to move back with my parents. And every fuckin shithead around me was telling me how in the end you need a fuckin degree. Now I’m back in school, trying to finish my first year courses and I’m more fucked up than before! I don’t even have the time to have a fuckin drink because I’m so fucked up studying for shit that I cannot remember for the life of me. Fuck I want to burn the school down.

    Tuesday, November 13, 2007 at 15:33 #
  226. Abba wrote::

    I hate university because I hate authority. I never knew this about myself until I entered this insititution and gave my life up to a few old white men. I cannot stand the idea of other people deciding my future. I cant stand the way were all just suppose to be stupid little sheep doing what other people want, taking courses that will not benefit us in our future careers (go science go – life cycle of a fly anyone) and always having to try harder than that fool whose still so bright eyed and keen, they still try and care and are determined to do better than u and so u have to sell more of ur soul to do better than them. I hate University. I hate hate hate hate hate university. And what I hate most is its plain not fair. They dont reward merit, they dont give a shit what courses u took, they dont care that some people played the system for everything its worth to get where they are (and hence, theyre so bright eyed and keen, since everyone else did everything else for them) Im trying to get into med by the way and once upon a time i wanted to be a doctor beacuse i wanted to help people, i wanted to make a difference. Now, I just wanna be in a position where i can fire profs. I want cash. cold hard cash. I am so sick of this life sucking place.

    Wednesday, November 14, 2007 at 04:44 #
  227. Emma wrote::

    I dont know what to do.

    I do like university life as in going out and meeting new people, I find my course interesting although a little hard going.

    However….my flatmates are not what i imagined. No-one, apart from a rly lovely girl, is sociable. I cant stand the lonliness of my room in the day.

    Do i move?…but what if its the same there?
    Do i leave?…and regret it perhaps?
    Stick it out?….with the possibility of misery?
    Do i defer?….what if its the same next year?

    i wish it was fine from the beginning. I know i can be happy here…it’s just the luck of the draw who you get. But its ruining my time here, i dont want to look back and remember that i spent whats supposed to be one of the best years of my life…in tears.

    Wednesday, November 14, 2007 at 11:57 #
  228. H wrote::

    NEVER go to UNISA (south Australia)

    They are corrupt, overcrowded and don’t care about you or your studies.

    They mislead so many people and are pretty much a PR (permenant residency) factory for chinese, indians, africans, arabs, persians and others. The uni is 40% international and this actually inhibits anything, because they don’t socialize, are prioritized, can’t speak english properly and compete for jobs (casual which theya ren’t many of)

    It costs so much too.

    Th uni lied to me about assumed knowledge. basically there was no mention of maths assumed knowledge and thus i failed repeatedly and as never offered help, even when i asked!

    Infact the lecturer told me “i can’t help you and i don’t need to”

    Yeah great.

    Univeristy in Australia is focused on money and staus, nothing else. I’ve seen very intelligent people quit, even when they are doing well due to money and other reasons (predominantly at UNISA).

    So remmebr don’t go to UNISA (UNISgAy)

    Also i hope everyone in this thread whi isn’t enjoying UNI finds a way ot a place to make them happy and succeed.

    Best of wishes

    Friday, November 16, 2007 at 04:18 #
  229. youcanhavemylunch wrote::

    Basically if you want to leave… LEAVE.
    It’s all just bullshit. You pay £3000+ for them to give you a reading list – thanks! that’s dead kind. If you’re interested in something then you might as well just go to the library and get a book save everyone’s time and money. Plus no one at uni is interested in learning anyway so even if you do all the pointless and dull reading you go to seminars and everyone sits in silence because none of them have
    even looked at the reading. And lectures are quite possibly the most boring invention EVER.

    I only went in the first place because i didn’t have a plan for what else to do and everyone expected me to go. So partly that i was fault but i am still pissed off that i spent a year sitting around saying i don’t want to go to university and no one ever said do something else then they all said yes, you do want to go.

    So i lasted 8 weeks if you count freshers and reading week. And it was the most boring time i have ever spend in my entire life. Students drink, and that’s it. They don’t do any work they do do anything else just drink and if you don’t then don’t even bother. It took me one day to realise that so i don’t know why i even bothered staying but i thought maybe learning something would be interesting… it wasn’t you have to learn about so much shit you’re not interested and by the time you’ve done that you have no time or inclination to do anything that does interest you = serious depression.

    So i am completely for dropping out. Sure I’m sitting at home with no idea what to do now but at least it’s not costing me huge amounts of wasted time and money to do that. Anyway if everyone has a degree it doesn’t mean anything anymore.

    O and read the Teenage Liberation Handbook… it doesn’t matter that it’s about school or if you’re not a teenager but it’s nice to have someone tell you in book form that you’re not a complete failure for dropping out of the institutionalism and bullshit

    Sunday, November 18, 2007 at 01:51 #
  230. Thomas Clements wrote::

    I’m about half of the way through my first semester and I’m already contemplating throwing in the towel. I’ve always enjoyed learning, debating and being curious about things but the notion of university just seems to render this pointless. Recently, I’ve just found myself churning out work and asssignments and doing it all exactly to exam board specification, there doesen’t seem to be any room for creativity or independence, as I was led to believe. My interest in the subject is rapidly declining and my course grades are becoming alarmingly poor but at the moment I couldn’t give a damn, as all I want is out. Students’ attitudes and behaviour also stink, so much unjustifiable vanity, arrogance and rudeness, it’s actually soul destroying for decent and modest human beings like me. Since attending university, my self-esteem has gone down, I feel drained, lethargic, depressed and misanthropic. If university is the basis for a soundly built civil society, I can only despair.
    The dilemma, as is inevitably the case, is the stigma of being a college drop-out and not obtaining a degree, ergo throwing away your ambition. However, I think somebody has to be defiant in this world and realise that having a degree does not make you a better person or any more committed.

    Sunday, November 18, 2007 at 07:23 #
  231. katie wrote::

    well i found this website a year ago andi thank god everyday that i did because listenen to everyone else expereince the same shit as me has made me feel like im not a complete loser!im in my 2nd year and i think ive finally made a decision to QUIT!people kept telling me this year woulld be different.well it isnt!its the same old crap everyday with the same loser students who get pissed evryday.i hate this lifestyle!i have no idea how to tell my family that im quiting though….they will be so disapointed!!!

    Monday, November 19, 2007 at 01:02 #
  232. jim wrote::

    you guys are my type of people! I’m a student in toronto, canada. I find it miserable to go to Ryerson university and its only my first year! The reason why it sucks is because of many factors. most of these faggots aren’t here to study! They bring their cell phones to class and let them ring during the lecture. Their prescense irritates me. If i want to ask the prof a question, I’ve got to rethink the question to make myself sound smart and say it casually or I would seeing dozens of heads turning my way. Most of these kids are too immature for their age! the professors are all ESL’s from a different part of the world. They cannot explain shit to save their lives let alone give us an education. Its more or less heavy text book reading that saves ur ass. There really isn’t anything fun about the lectures and labs. It makes me feel like my vision of science and beauty was wrong. my program is costing me so much money, money that I earned with my own hard work yet disappearing like quicksand. Is there anybody going to my university? give me a nudge cause maybe we can find motivation from each other.

    Monday, November 19, 2007 at 14:16 #
  233. Wasif Asif wrote::

    Been reading all of your comments and it’s a comfort to see others going through the same thing I am. I’m only doing a foundation year since my linked degree required experience in areas which I had never done before. The first week or two went fine until I quickly started to realize that my lecturers (most of them) were all morons! I have a Chinese guy teaching me maths, now no disrespect to race but his accent is so heavy it’s almost impossible to understand what he’s saying.

    Next up is my programming teacher and what a wank he is. You guessed it! Another twat who has an accent as heavy as a naval ship. Can barely understand this twit, what’s more on one of the lab sessions he said

    “If you need any help, raise your hand and I’ll do what I can”

    I know sounds nice doesn’t it? Well I did just that and asked him to help me out on a problem I was having, now bare in mind I have NO programming experience and this foundation year factored that even those with little to no programming skill would be able to learn at a steady rate. So anyways when I ask for help he says to me,

    “Sorry you have to do that yourself”

    So hold the phone, before he said if you have any problems he’ll do his best to help and now he says I need to do it myself. I’m all for independence and learning on my own but throw me a bone here I’m new to this you pompous schmuck.

    I even have lecturers who don’t turn because they say and I quote “Oh I thought the lecture was an hour early”

    The degree I wanted to do was computer game tech. I fucking worked like a mule but it’s out of my league so I’m considering changing my course though almost 2 months have passed and even if I did find something chances are I wouldn’t be able to join it.

    I sent and E-mail to head of the foundation department and placed all my worries and feelings into. I even had counseling since University has had me feeling suicidal and whats even worse is my parents used the grant and the loan I recieved because frankly my family financially is not doing well so I wanted to help them out.

    So to break it down

    1) University sucks
    2) The lecturers are incompetent who don’t give a shite about their students nor about what their teaching.
    3) The so called ‘help’ they provide is nothing more than a sugar coated “Suck it up and do it yourself your old enough to take care of it on your own”
    4) I will most likely be in debt
    5) Start to break down mentally
    6) Die

    For anyone who read ALL of this I thank you with all my being. At least someone heard me out properly, hope life deals you a nice hand.

    -Wasif Asif-

    Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 21:06 #
  234. katie wrote::

    well i finally did it and told uni were they can go.im offically out of that hell hole that was supposed to giv me the best years of my life.what aload of crap is all i can say.im working part time at the mo and applying for the police in january-i cant believe i actually quit.im still numb and confused by the whole dam expereience.i giv full credit to all u guys who are sticking it out-i couldnt do it any longer i was making myself ill i was unbelievable depressed and i realised IT WASNT WORTH IT!wasif i can totally sympathise with you, i to had lecturers who were from all over the world and found it dam hard to understand a word of what they were trying to ‘teach’. I had a spanish woman trying to teach us stats this year-why oh why would anyone think this would be a good idea!?!god dam it employ some teachers with english accents!!!!i just wana say good luck to everone and thanks for listenin to me rant on for the past year and a half!kx

    Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 23:19 #
  235. Tim wrote::

    I say – well done to those who have the guts to leave. I’m in my third year of a Philosophy degree and have only just rediscovered learning…all by myself. University’s are awful institutions. Lectures are dull, you’re adding £4k a year to your debt to read about 7 books per year. I’ve learnt more in the past 6 months reading about things that interest me (Popper, Dawkins, Pinker, Foucault) than I have done in any lecture/seminar. If you’re thinking about getting out – GET OUT! I regret not leaving when I still could. My mind is screwed up and I have huge mood swings. If you complain of depression they stick you straight on tablets just to get you through the course. Most of the lecturers (most) are arrogant and look down on all but the few. There’s no room for creativity, and no room to flourish. Something’s wrong when an institution for learning and wisdom does not allow you to deviate even slightly from any exam specification/essay outline. It’s stupid, it’s numbing, it’s turned me into a depressed alcoholic, and I’m so glad I found this long list of people like me!
    If you’re thinking of getting out – get out. Grow some balls (or if you’re a woman…some…weird growths) and get the hell out before it eats away at your life and you become another drone. Meanwhile, I can’t afford to drop out…so…looks like I’ll be working on my dissertation tonight. That started off interesting. Before my ‘dis. tutor’ told me what I had to write.
    Bloody hell…

    Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 04:08 #
  236. MBS wrote::

    I have just been reading some of these posts and have to FULL HEARTEDLY DISAGREE with people saying that if they would have chosen an art degree then their so called “unique creativity” would be nourished and that they would be happier. What a load of bollocks. I am in the supposedly “best” university for my course in Europe (so they always say). I am at Central Saint Martins. There are over 170 people on my course. It is ridiculously over-stretched. A lot of the people there that I have met seem to be so far up their own arses it is a joke. Art school is not one big drawing session. It is not free-spirited either. It is fiercely competitive and expensive and just the same as a more academic university, very restricted. You do not have free reign.

    Urg! I cannot get across how much I hate the place and how disillusioned it has made me feel. I thought I was going there to learn skills, the tricks of the design trade, but I am constantly told that even though I have pade over £3000 for my education, I have to go learn everything at home! Why pay to go there then. A BA is just a money making racket. My tutors even say so themselves. There is no value. Everything I will learn will be on my own time. I will be leaving shortly, not because I am a drop-out, but I refuse to feel victimised by the system. “Oh you must have a degree”… Every Tom, Dick and Harry has one nowadays, I would rather live life. 15 out of my 19years have been in education, I’m going to start learning things my own way, that way there is only myself to blame and I doubt I will have as much as I would if I stayed on this hamster wheel of a life path.

    Wednesday, November 28, 2007 at 04:40 #
  237. MBS wrote::

    paid*

    Wednesday, November 28, 2007 at 04:41 #
  238. LSH wrote::

    SO good to find I’m not alone. I have to say my undergrad degree was a blast but I decided to do my Masters in London, what a f**king shock. My Uni has just been ranked no 9 in the world and I have no idea why. I’m paying a lot of money and what do I get? Spoken to like sh*t, professors who think they’re God’s gift, people on the course who are so far up their own backsides just cos they have a degree that they can’t see daylight.
    The professors are so lazy, they dish out ridiculous amounts of reading cos they can’t be bothered to do any work. They may all think they’re superbrains (if you can recycling someone else’s work and putting it into your own words brains) but they have no concept of the real world in their little academic bubble. I can’t be myself at this Uni and that’s not what it’s meant to be about – it’s supposed to open your mind to thinking and experimenting with ideas (depending on your degree) in new ways not indoctrinating you into THEIR way of doing things.
    All I can say for all those people on here who feel that they don;t fit in at Uni for any reason, most of the great people in history who have ever done anything meaningful and had a real impact on the world were people who were misunderstood and felt that somehow they didn’t fit in with the society they lived in.

    Wednesday, November 28, 2007 at 05:53 #
  239. MBS wrote::

    No, you’re most definitely not alone. London University for me has been the biggest myth! It is just as bad as a University up north. People thinking they’re above others because they go to a London University, pah! If you have any sense, don’t come here!

    Wednesday, November 28, 2007 at 06:06 #
  240. Yoyo101 wrote::

    Anyone from Canada (Ontario) here? … because university here sucks too!!

    Getting my degree (software engineering) is like jail-time for four-five years…

    Lectures are boring, professors are insane, classmates + friends are fake-ish…

    Thursday, November 29, 2007 at 00:59 #
  241. Morning Crack wrote::

    I came to university with a real passion for learning and since I read the brochures I was so excited about going. It seemed that from this point on life would be so simple, it seemed like all that I would have to do was study and learn and work a little, although being a student would be my first priority. I have a good family life and when I left school I had a few, but very trusting friends. But I was so short sighted and dead wrong. University sucks, that’s it in a nutshell. It sucks because I expected the wrong things. I wouldn’t go on to say that I hate everyone there, although there is the significant minority of complete douche bags of both genders of course. There is this huge majority that I have absolutely nothing in common with. I have nothing in common with any of them, no one. Socializing with them just completely drains me, it sucks me dry of my energy, I just can’t handle study after a day at university, I hate it so much. In my country, Australia, if your idea of having a good time does not involve getting completely ‘wasted’ (i.e. severely intoxicated) and wasting your money, health and time while doing it, then there must be something unusual about you and no one will want to socialize with you, in fact no one will give a god damn shit about you. You will be a god damn loner, and that kind of stress is just ruining me, I thought during the summer holidays I’d get a break of it all, but so far it doesn’t look promising. I am just trying to keep people away from me, not by being rude, but I am just trying so hard to disassociate myself from so many people because I just can’t get on with them. I can be polite to them but in the end I don’t like what they like, I don’t laugh at what they laugh at, I am not involved in pop culture, I don’t watch TV so I never have a god damn clue what group conversations are about, I am just on the side, I don’t participate. I feel more like a prop, just some guy that stands on the side and says things like “wow?”, “damn” and “that is whack.”, (kind of like the token black guy, but white.)

    I was introverted to start with but being at university has just made me even more so, and on one hand it feels alright because I am on my side and I do things more effectively when I do them alone, on the other hand I hate it, because I just become self centered and reclusive. I just don’t know what to do, I am really missing something. I just can’t click with anyone and last time I did they had to move away so I don’t see this good friend anymore, it’s such a shame, he was the only person I really had things in common with, everyone else is just a materialistic douche bag. I just wish there was nothing more to university than study, I wish it was just study on your own, sit the exam then study some more. I wouldn’t have a problem with that. But universities are just like assembly lines, knowledge factories, no deviations from the formula, no curiosity, no creativity, just rote learning and intellectual numbness. I hate it, I hate waking up to it, I hate the fact that I don’t have an alternative, I just hate my life, even though on the outside it may seem I have no reason to be miserable.

    Thursday, November 29, 2007 at 19:30 #
  242. paulina wrote::

    yeah its nice to hear that other people share my dislike for student life and univeristy. Its crap. I am studying art history at Goldsmiths in London and its SO PRETENTIOUS!!! WHY WHY WHY??? why do people have to be like that? up there own arses, so stuck up, so stupid, thinking they are better then others?

    I cant wait to finish my degree, at this boring Univeristy. I havent got many friends there- i tried but its just not me.

    Studying art in London.. is fake and unless you know people, wear designer clothes and go to all ‘cool’ places you wont go very far… and there is much more to life that doing that pretentious crap!! good luck!

    Friday, November 30, 2007 at 09:11 #
  243. MBS wrote::

    Hey Paulina,

    Have you got Facebook or something? I’m at CSM and it is exactly the same, people thinking they can have an attitude with the tutors for no reason whatsoever.

    I don’t think I am going to carry on with my degree, why bother? pay all that money for something that isn’t special at all. It’s not all money, more the thought of those vulgar idiots on the course having the same degree and I think in the art world, there is no escaping those imbeciles!

    xx

    Friday, November 30, 2007 at 09:39 #
  244. LSH wrote::

    Hey Morning Crack,
    It’s the same in the UK. But do you know what else? They’re sheep.The other day the clicky group on my course all followed each other out of the room in 2 minute intervals to sit in the corridor and talk, drink, read their newspapers whilst a few of us were left watching this documentary. At least you are an individual and not some clone. Out of interest anyone else go to UCL?

    Friday, November 30, 2007 at 20:53 #
  245. MBS wrote::

    Hey LSH,

    nope, UAL, but it’s just the same, actually, it’s probably worse… ‘art students’!

    Saturday, December 1, 2007 at 02:03 #
  246. mike wrote::

    Morning Crack,

    I’ve been where you are man. I know how you feel just by reading your words. I really feel you. On the outside it may seem like you have no reason to be so miserable and unhappy because you are living the life that society and maybe the people around you have structured and created for you, and you’re simply just playing it all out. This happens first on an energetic level on the inner planes, and then manifests on the outer plane (here, now). You have to start remembering what it is that is truly in your heart and soul and what you truly want out of life: what would make you want to get up every morning? Listen man, I don’t know if you have any religious beliefs or any other beliefs that might block this out but give it a shot anyways try this site http://www.theheavenproject.net this is the best advice I could give you right now

    Sunday, December 2, 2007 at 09:44 #
  247. mike wrote::

    MBS i totally agree with you you’re right on the money man

    Sunday, December 2, 2007 at 09:47 #
  248. MBS wrote::

    What a hypocrite you are Mike!

    With all your talk of “WE have to take action. WE ARE the generation that has to take action”… If University is so awful for you and you do speak about it with such hatred, why don’t YOU leave?

    Because you like to believe that you are above it all. Use your “inner intelligence” and leave, instead of trying to persuade others to.

    I started reading your post and thought you were pretty admirable, until I got to your ‘P.s.’

    There is an excellent saying… ‘Practice what you preach’.

    Monday, December 3, 2007 at 03:33 #
  249. Yelir Oabab wrote::

    Well, it looks like we have established the fact that university is an anti-climax. You can look at all these people that have dropped out of university and made success, but they are a very small minority. The fact is, that graduates, on average, get paid more people without degrees. Although at the end of the day, money doesnt make you happy, but more money will probably make you more likely to be happy. If you’re gonna do a career afterwards that has nothing to do with the degree, thinking that it is pointless, then you don’t get the whole picture. A degree (unfortunately in todays society) proves intelligence and to get further in life you have got to have one, even if it has nothing to do with the career. Degrees make promotions and money. Its extremely sad that society has come to this, but that is the world today and you can’t do anything about it.

    (Wow, students have a hard life, a bit of reading, some essays, a few lectures and then the whole summer of doing absolutely nothing- compared to maybe people in africa starving with no healthcare etc. where everyday is a struggle to live. An we are complaining about a few lecturers, inability to make friends and a hard life?!? Its time to have a look at yourself and how lucky you are to have opportunities to do anything at all.)

    I suppose people won’t like what I have written but its the truth. I hate university as much as anyone and sympathise with everyone on this site. But remember that its only for a few years and “if you’re going through hell, keep going”.

    Monday, December 3, 2007 at 05:10 #
  250. MBS wrote::

    HA! University ‘proves intelligence’, what a joke! They let anybody who can (and cannot for that matter hence student loans) pay the fee’s on to a University.

    Monday, December 3, 2007 at 05:15 #
  251. MBS wrote::

    university course*

    Monday, December 3, 2007 at 05:15 #
  252. mike wrote::

    Yelir,

    I can see where you are coming from, but i totally disagree. You are like a really rational guy who thinks that we must settle for this and we have no power to change things. Imagine if all the greats like Gandhi or Martin Luther King (I dont feel like listing the so many people but there are so many and probably many we dont know about) for example would of been thinking the same way you are…

    Like I said, its good to step outside the box sometimes, and see things from a higher perspective. Of course more money is good, and yes it is true university graduates get paid more. I agree man I wanna be loaded OFF MY ASS too. But that is still a part of the system. You’re just zooming in on a small part of the system. I’m saying get outside the system, find your purpose your passion and your drive, and surely you will, in the process, become wealthier than any university education can provide. No, im not a living example of this YET, but I swear to god ill come back to these forums in 5 years and prove it to you. You sound like someone smart who is just “accepting” things because thats what seems like the “easy path”, but thats the system man. It is.

    You sympathize with everyone…I can feel the coldness there man, really. You sound like a shitty teacher or some blind system business guy or something “Oh yes well of course lets express our human emotions but the reality is we just brush it off harden up and push through and live our purposeless lives and make money so we can survive and maybe feel some emotions in the process but ignore everything else and do the whole routine then die”…Thats what theyre saying theyre lying to themselves. What are you doing on this planet, try to think of it man. Just Passing through? What are you in purgatory or something. Think harder, feel deeper, reflect go inside man. (im not telling you what to do, im just saying you know…)
    Oh and chances are if you hate school like you say you do, I dont think youre life will get any better once you graduate. Thing is we hate school cuz its part of the system, and the system is all about emotional instability, ups and downs, high and low and so much stress because we arent doing the things we love in an environment we love at all times. How could you just “accept it” and “push-through” your life in one of the “safe make you feel like your comfortable outlets” the system provides (a salary) as a remedy to the chaos they create? Its like beauty…lets make people feel shitty and ugly so we can create cosmetics and make them feel beautiful. Yes I know they are ugly to begin with and the cosmetics to make them hotter sometimes (a few beers wouldn’t hurt either) but again it all comes down to the reality we have created for ourselves. Look at humanity just look at what we’ve created. It may seem like I’m attacking you, but honestly I would just love to hear your answer…how does your reasoning provide you with enough drive and energy to wake up in the morning and do what you do? Again i feel like this sounds like an attack, but I just want to hear your answer, maybe even you need to hear your own answer.

    Anyways ill be glad to leave these comments open to interpretation whether positive or negative, because for everything i write id love to justify everything from all the many possible angles but I just cant do that id have to write a book on the forum, so ill keenly wait for peoples replies on certain and specific aspects of my comments so i can further elaborate and explain my perspectives and opinions.

    Monday, December 3, 2007 at 07:39 #
  253. mike wrote::

    one last comment you said:

    Its time to have a look at yourself and how lucky you are to have opportunities to do anything at all.)

    EXACTLY. SO START DOING SOMETHING PURPOSEFUL. LIVING COMFORTABLY UNTIL YOU DIE IS NOT PURPOSEFUL. SEIZE YOUR OPPORTUNITIES AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE. And i dont think you need to sacrifice anything in the process, i think you can gain more that you can imagine in the process. if you care so much about those starving, then what are your plans on making a difference? Who says at the end of your life you wont die and be reborn as one of those africans because really you were just “passing through” this lifetime and never really accomplished anything except for the material things you acquired and left behind anyways, REGARDLESS of what your beliefs are.

    Monday, December 3, 2007 at 07:43 #
  254. Yelir Oabab wrote::

    What I’m saying is that university is a stepping stone to some places that only a degree can get you to. That’s life; and you can read your 1984, watch your Matrix and complain about the “system” all you want but you can’t change it. . (What you were saying reminded me of the Matrix film (so in a simile kind of way) in which there are two types of people, those that fight and those who conform and I would argue that the conformists are happier than the rebels).
    How many Gandhi’s and Martin Luther King’s do you know. It just isn’t possible to do anything about it. Yes, there are these 1 in a million people, but I am not one of them, if you want to do that, become a politician or something. You’re just going to be unhappy fighting for a lost cause, what’s wrong with getting a decent job, earning a decent salary, living by the sea, eating and drinking the best stuff, being with friends and family, surfing, drinking, sleeping etc. That’s what I want in life and I’m going to get it in the end. So that’s why I get up every morning to lectures etc.
    I’m completely content with the “system”, there’s just a few aspects of life here that I don’t like e.g. very hard essays and people who I live with that I have to share kitchens/bathrooms with who I don’t particularly like etc. I’m sure I would be happier to live with people I like and finding the work less hard, but you just gotta take the ups with the downs.
    Spending the rest of your life fighting isn’t worth it, just make a few changes and you’ll be happier, maybe quitting university, maybe stop thinking that the “system” is what’s wrong with your world.

    Monday, December 3, 2007 at 16:42 #
  255. MBS wrote::

    Personally Mike, I think you are deeply confused. I disagree with you on so many things that you posted however I am not going to post a 1000 word reply. I am more to the point.

    However, I should choose my words more wisely in the future. When I mentioned that your post was admirable, I meant that there was slight admiration for you when I thought that you had had some backbone and left University, after saying how unhappy you were. I state NOT for the sheer amount of waffle you posted (or should I say preached?), that gave the impression of someone quite unhinged and brainwashed.

    Monday, December 3, 2007 at 23:25 #
  256. mike wrote::

    Yelir,

    I totally understand your point of view, and it makes alot of sense. I too want and will have a top notch lifestyle, whether I pursue a University degree or not and I’m glad you want the same thing and I hope you get it all and more. The truth is, I guess it cannot be described unless to those who can intuitively understand it…it is something that goes beyond material wealth and physical health. I respect that. Although, for the record, I must disagree with your statement that it is a “Lost Cause”. Challenging and would take unimaginable effort and work yes, lost cause, no. That is what you have been led to believe (I think). I am aware that it’s not “the system” that is wrong with “my world” since my perception of reality is that it is merely a reflection of what’s going on inside me. But to ignore the sad state things are in is foolish, and to do nothing about it except enjoy your material acquisitions for the time being is in MY OPINION purposeless.

    MBS, I don’t really care whether you disagree with me or not. You obviously don’t have all the answers to life, or else you wouldn’t be here wining about how much you hate the institution but still accept it no matter how much it torments you (because you don’t have the balls to leave) and just attack people who are suggesting things outside of your set of beliefs that keep you safe in your little world. Although I’m always open to argument, you seem to be more keen on attacking those with different opinions. Just because you do not understand my point of view, it does not mean I am brainwashed and you are “sane”. I’m probably more successful (in terms of the way you measure it anyways) than you are right now, and I know what brainwash is. I think it is you who are brain washed, as it is obvious you are suffering and are very narrow minded, and can’t see a way out of something you hate. I won’t even get started on that because then you’ll have to read another 1000 post of which importance does not outweigh what you have to read for tomorrow’s class anyways. And do not call me a preacher as it was totally uncalled for and I clearly stated that I express personal opinions and points of view open to discussion and argument, as I don’t believe that I have all the answers or “know it all”. Besides, what do you think your teachers are doing every lecture? Just because it is wide spread and commonly accepted, does not mean it is not preaching. But that might be too “deep” for your limited understanding anyways so this conversation ends here.

    Tuesday, December 4, 2007 at 07:06 #
  257. MBS wrote::

    Mike, get a life. You have labelled me with such stereotypes, for you to claim to be open minded is beggar’s belief. This is an internet forum discussing University life, I will not venture in anything or than this on here. You have no understanding as you have very obviously misinterpreted my posts on every level and have just come to your own conclusions. Which is fair enough, but will get you no where in life, only where you are now, a sad and bitter being.

    Good Day.

    Wednesday, December 5, 2007 at 11:37 #
  258. JeNNifer wrote::

    Oh my gosh! I think someone oughta call a Doctor for mike over there.

    Wednesday, December 5, 2007 at 11:41 #
  259. Dom wrote::

    yer mike man, calm down its only a forum blud. uni is da shizzle i ain’t got no beef with ma lecturers innit. reppin’ Manchester Met! wuh wuh.

    Wednesday, December 5, 2007 at 11:44 #
  260. Chris wrote::

    I wish I could have gone to university! The turmoil is a small price to pay as we forget that we have perhaps gone through worse. Remember GCSEs where we had to AT ANY COST get good grades. Remembering how you survived and how you made it through university will make you so much stronger a person for adulthood.

    By the way Mike, you really need to calm down. I know because I was once where you are now. I drove myself to the brink of insanity in trying to find a purpose in life and in existence. Then it became obvious that there was NO purpose in life, society has been built on people who made a purpose for themselves, who chose to make a purpose. No purpose or a purpose, both are very strong choices and they are both entirely your call. Mike, if you’re really serious, then you need to think rationally and carefully on what you’re doing. Don’t save humanity by destroying society, save humanity by helping society. You’ll end up killing someone if you don’t slow down.

    On another note, I would suggest you stick with university, no matter how bad it is. Remember, its just 3-5 years of your life, a small price to pay if it helps you later and helps you become totally independent and confident of your strengths. But also remember that you need strength to walk away if you really need to.

    As for me, when I can finally sort out my poor E grades from A-Level I will try my hand at university and hopefully have a less tragic time than you poor folks. My sympathies for all you have all been through.

    Thursday, December 6, 2007 at 05:17 #
  261. Chlo wrote::

    Blimey, this thread’s been going for 3 and a half years..

    Yeah I hate uni too. I’m in my 4th year and I’ve gradually become an exhausted hunchback recluse.
    I was irresponsible in the first couple of years (money, skipping lectures etc), arguably because I felt so shit I was constantly looking for short-term ways to feel better (‘I’ll just miss this lecture cos then I won’t have to talk to anyone….’). Anyway, I’m paying for it now. I’m totally the source of my own problems, not uni, and I really want to deal with it and become a person that I like. It’s just uni makes it pretty much impossible to do anything about it:

    How can you keep up decent relationships when you are too exhausted to string a sentence together? How can you become less exhausted when you have a shitty diet and hardly get any sleep? How can you eat when you’ve maxed out your overdraft? How can you earn any money when you don’t have any free time? How can you feel good about yourself when you have to sponge off your parents? How can you do any decent work when you’re trying to scrape your way out of all these other situations?

    5 months to go.

    Thursday, December 6, 2007 at 06:20 #
  262. MBS wrote::

    Ok, then mike, I think you’ve proved just what kind of unhinged and brainwashed being you are now.

    Anyway… I know the feeling chio, it’s the same way I feel. I keep skipping lectures but I know it’s just going to back fire and come back on me in the end…

    Thursday, December 6, 2007 at 06:50 #
  263. Lee wrote::

    Hmm it seems mikes’ posts have set this discourse away on a tangent far removed from the original objective of grumbling about UNi in its pure and simple form. Delusional, half-baked overly theoretical, conspiracy theory crap.

    Anyway, I posted a year ago now I think and my original bitter cynicism of University (History Degree in the UK) has subsided considerably after I’ve rethought everything and got myself a girlfriend (enormous morale boost).

    However, a lot still remains about University that I still cannot grasp:
    I pay 1000 pounds a term for my course and I only recieve for that money 2 hours of contact time (a seminar) per week. PER WEEK! Effectively therefore I’m paying for a 3 grand library card a year. Furthermore, these seminars seem to be a forum in which all the arrogant, conceited, pretentious, soulless robots get to blather on about what THEY think on whatever tangent THEY want to go on whilst I need to learn how to answer my exam essay questions next term! I don’t want to discuss in a group! I want to be taught precisely what to do! I think sometimes the facade of independent learning is a cop out excuse for not instructing us more thoroughly. It doesn’t make sense to me that we grow up through school under the culture of being assigned homework and then doing it within a pretty rigid set of constraints relative to what I’m doing now, and yet once you arrive at Uni, and get given an essay title and nothing else, it’s like throwing you to the lions! You haven’t been educated to produce amazing degree standard stuff on your own, you’ve been educated to jump through hoops on cue. Anyway, it doesn’t matter. I just need to do what needs to be done and that’s that. Plenty of time to muse about the unjustness of it when my degree is long gone.

    More silly introverted musings from me later I’m sure. Disgruntled students of the world, rebels/lazy bohemians/stressed/friendless/ overworked, all of you students alike, keep the faith.

    Lee

    Thursday, December 6, 2007 at 09:31 #
  264. Rob wrote::

    I’m going to ignore the recent tangent, as I got excited by the posts at the top and wanted to comment.

    I’m coming up to xmas hols after 12 weeks at uni, and the fact that I, like all the above, typed in “I hate Uni” on google should give you a clue as to what I feel like.

    I had a brilliant time in sixth form -had a great set of friends, enjoyed the work, and really liked the person I felt I was becoming. Now it seems like all of that has been cut off, and that I am turning into a shell of who I used to be.

    I was never the best person at making friends, but I never thought in my worst nightmares that I would find myself utterly friendless, and yet here I sit. Although I have forced myself to be friendly, I really have nothing in common with most of my classmates, whose main interests seem to be getting pissed. As the main subject of conversation between them is how pissed they got at whichever club, I am increasingly feeling like an outsider, to the extent of dreading to go in at all. Even worse is that people I initially made a connection with, and thought were becoming my friends, are acting like the more popular people in order to fit in, and not trying to form a relationship with the boring loner.

    Anyone who tells me to “make an effort to fit in” is essentially telling me to not be myself, though I should stress that I’m not nearly as much of an arsehole as my way of writing would suggest. It’s just that getting smashed out of my head every weekend is not what I want to do with my time (and money), and because i’m not willing to pretend otherwise, I’m on my own.

    All this is really grueling because at my old school, I was fairly popular. Perhaps it was just a case of being a big fish in a small pond, because my personality definitely hasn’t carried over to my new life. But it is heart rending to meet my old friends and be treated like I was still the great person I used to be, knowing full well that the next day I’d go right back to being a nobody.

    Even more troubling is that, although my work is being marked as very good, I feel deep down that it is of poor quality. Although I want to do well, I find it difficult to derive any satisfaction from praise for work that I think doesn’t deserve it. It seems like I’m not learning anything other than how to pander to what my teachers expect.

    Worst of all, I’m terrified that my new misery-guts personality will effect the relationships that I already have, particularly with my girlfriend. I am finding it harder to talk to my old friends, and feel like I am boring them. My constant stress and tiredness is starting to seep through into the time spent with my girlfriend, and I can sense it becoming less enjoyable for her to be with me. I can only hope that xmas will give me the opportunity to get back to the happy state of mind I was once in.

    Sorry to bore you with all that crap, I just had to get it off my chest. I don’t dare tell my family that I’m not liking it, and it felt so good (in a dark sort of way) to see that so many people feel exactly like me. Let’s all of us meet up and solve the problem of friendlessness.

    p.s. After reading through my post, I thought I should make it clear that I am not an arsehole in real life. Please beleive me.

    Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 07:21 #
  265. Some Person wrote::

    Chalk me into the group that hates university (which is majority of the people here). Highschool was 10 times better than this shit. Not only do I need to throw away my social life to get decent marks, I’m getting pressured by my parents to do well, and most of the shit I’m learning has nothing to do with the program I applied for. Not to mention that engineering is a total sausage fest and most of the profs don’t have any clue how to teach undergraduate students.

    Sunday, December 16, 2007 at 09:09 #
  266. edyh wrote::

    So you hate uni? This is how to beat the system. I went to Birmingham university for the total wrong reasons, didnt want to get left behind, retake my shoddy alevels, or disappoint my family. So off i went. I HATED IT. it was everything uni life should not have been. I was stuck with the biggest dickhead students in my flat, and uni life was dull and uninspiring. So after month i decided to appy to other higher institions whilst continuing on at birmingham uni temperoraly. I have recieved two offers already. Its now xmas holidays and im about to leave shitty birmingham and work to go travelling knowing that i have the option of going to better uni’s when i return. Things are looking up! Just dont get stuck, its not worth it seriously these are the best years of your life. I know it sounds hard to stand up to your parents. But heck if i can tell my parents i changed my degree course and now am changing uni’s anyone can. Its not that bad. Take control. Get mad and do it. Hope ive been of help. TH.

    Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 05:34 #
  267. Michelle Howe wrote::

    Some guy earlier on said that no matter how much you work your ass of it just doesn’t count. You’ve got to document your research. Research, research ad nauseum, no ideas or opinions of your own. Uni is a self perpetuating mediocracy.

    Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 05:08 #
  268. kill me please wrote::

    i hate university so much and want to leave. i am studying acturial sciences and its so strssful. i just feel like packing my bags and leaving everyday, but am afraid that society will see me as a failure. i have attempted to commit suicide 4 times and have failed. i really dont know what to do. please someone help me.i am so glad i found this site, where people understand me.

    Monday, December 24, 2007 at 11:01 #
  269. h wrote::

    Some one should start a forum.
    I am computer illeterate really so don’t know how to.

    If any one hdoes or there already is post it here.

    Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 00:10 #
  270. mary bird wrote::

    I am at University but I do not understand the referencing and how you are supposed to argue in an assignment. You are too apprehensive to write anything in case you get caught plagiarism-it is a load of nonsence bu I will stick to it as I am sick of being in a dead end job.

    Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 11:59 #
  271. h wrote::

    While I can’t say that my lecturers are bad, on the contrary, they’re very good and we’re having about 30 hours of lectures every week + tutorials, it’s too much of “the good stuff”, i.e. we don’t get any personal space to pursuit friends or other areas of the program; streamlined and standardized is good when it comes to churning out books in a press, food from a machine, advertising for hollywood-movies, but I came to university thinking it would be a life altering experience, really in a lot more ways than it’s been, with departmental cooperation and knowledge sharing aiming to broaden perspective and mind!

    Friday, January 4, 2008 at 11:20 #
  272. anon wrote::

    not to be repetative but i completely agree with what everyone is saying, it’s like u all read my mind!!! i’ve always had friends before but when i came to uni it felt like i was some kind of lepper. My course is completely uninspiring and the subject i once loved leaves me cold. I miss my boyfriend constantly, but when i tell him i want to leave and go abroad he even tells me not to. I feel trapped, doomed to live the next 4 years miserable in order to make others happy. Every sisngle person in my year at school went to uni, the idea of not going was laughable. It’s hard to break free from that. Insane or what….

    Monday, January 7, 2008 at 02:52 #
  273. Josh Benford wrote::

    Thank Christ for this thread, I was starting to feel like I was the only one who hated university. I used to watch history shows on TV and talk to my friends about history all the time but uni’s just killed that. I hate history now. College was so good, I had a close-knit group of friends, time to myself and didn’t have to work every second of my life. Uni’s changed that completely. What fuckwit decided to tell the world that uni was the best time of your life where all you had to do was dick around for 3 years and earn money at the end of it? It’s not fucking true.

    I cried every day during my first term and I can’t see it getting any better. My Mum started off being very understanding, but now I’m suddenly in the wrong whenever I say I don’t want to be there – she just says ‘it can’t be that bad, belt up’. My girlfriend can’t stand seeing me sad but I just can’t pick myself up no matter how hard I try. I now work 50-hour weeks, have exactly zero friends and miss my girlfriend constantly. The work is pointless and stupidly difficult. How am I meant to learn with ONE contact hour a week which does nothing but tell me why I was ‘incorrect in my assumptions’ in my last essay and give me the title for the next pile of uninspired regurgitated drivel I’m expected to punch-out like some clapping cymbal-monkey?

    And no, I can’t leave. My family and girlfriend would disown me if I did. This is one-chance Oxford, where supposedly dreams are made through a perfect education. Fuck that shit, I don’t want to spend my days hearing about how rich the kid next to me’s daddy is or why Oxford is the best fucking city in the world. I’ve never met such small-minded and elitist twats. I just hope I never turn into one of them. Speaking to employers also brings up the soul-crushing fact that an Oxford degree is worth fuck-all more than a degree from KCL or LSE. So why the fuck am I here? My own mistake I guess – I got sucked in by all the bullshit remarks pumped out at me like “Yeah, there’s some work to do, but you’ll totally have time to do other really fun stuff!”. I should have gone to London but hindsight’s fucking 20/20 isn’t it.

    I don’t want to do this anymore. Nothing makes me happy. I’ve got this constant burning feeling in my chest. I’ve lost everything that made my life perfect to have it replaced with everything I hate. No degree can be worth this.

    Monday, January 7, 2008 at 17:37 #
  274. Andy wrote::

    Weyyheyy!!! A fuckload of people who share my sentiments!

    No fucking wonder Prince Harry’s girlfriend left this pisshole of a city. Depressing weather, depressing people, and the fake facade of an up-and-coming vibrant cosmopolitan hub. BULLSHIT. Fucking find myself sat more and more in my room poring over internet pages trying to kill time between handing in essays and being woken up at 3am by the droning monotonous sound of my one-dimensional blockmates.

    Bring on the end of a chorish 3 years.

    Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 07:25 #
  275. anon wrote::

    wow I wish I could find someone at my uni who felt this way too! I’m so unhappy here but stick with it because it’s a good uni and my parents put me through public schooling to get me far in life. But honestly I’m looking for accommodation off-campus for next year and can barely find people to share with…anyone been in this situation and what the hell did you do if so, because I feel totally screwed right now.

    Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 22:24 #
  276. jojo wrote::

    i hate uni too! its so good to see some people are in the same boat as me. I don’t see the whole point of lectures if they bloody give us reading lists and expects us to read them all rather than to rely on the lecture notes. What is the whole point of lecturing why can’t they just give us what we suppose to read rather than telling us to ‘discover’ what we are suppose to learn. They stupid lectures only want us to suffer, probably cuz they had a low, sad and depressing life themself and want us to go through it too! another theing if education is about discovery then we should be allowed all the time in the world to do an essay, but, hey presto we have deadlines to fufil – so what the heck forget about personal opinion or let alone discovery, plagerise instead. i hope a uni lecturer reads this blog and learn a few lesson from it, whereby if they really want there students to learn they should be more wiling to share information rather than conceal it and if they want to conceal the info then the should give us the whole time to discover it! the paradox lies in where you have to discover info but in a restricted time!! Hence the system needs to get there priorities sorted.

    Friday, January 11, 2008 at 07:07 #
  277. Prison Break wrote::

    Hey everybody, listen to this ,,” i was so happy after finishing high school . oh God I’m gonna be going to University soon !!!”
    It’s just a dream when you’re 18 years old …
    well ..then i apply .. and now i’m a university student . i started feeling frustrated ever since i took my first steps into the registration unit . hey fish !!!, ( a fuckin’ employee would call you) .., how can i help you ? …they never do their job well !!!

    Nowadays , I’m a senior student .. and guess what ? that first feeling has always kept my company !!!
    all i’m thinking about right now is how to get that ugly fat ass professor to believe me when i say … sorry .. i was late because i was sick !!! …….. while trying to hide the real reason which is all about me getting laid the night before !!!! LOL

    Saturday, January 12, 2008 at 02:45 #
  278. Matt wrote::

    Nothing in life seems to have any intrinsic meaning anymore; everything is just in your face, shallow and meaningless. The relationships I have with people are shallow, the people are shallow, I just can’t relate to them, I can’t feel what they feel because from my perception they don’t feel anything worth feeling. They feel instant gratification, excess, avarice, gluttony, physical pleasure, sweet short term euphoria, and the desire to perpetuate all of this, they see no end to it. I see that pathway as being devoid of true happiness and that is why I reject it. I want to see an end to something, I want to know what happens, I want peace, serenity, freedom from desire, freedom from excess, genuine relationships with people based on mutual and most importantly unconditional trust. Except for the last point, all of the aforementioned seems to stand in stark opposition to what other people generally value and that is something that I can’t deal with, I am just not compatible with those people because we differ in values. I don’t like our culture of over consumption, it makes me sick and disgusted in a non-self righteous way, it’s just something that I keep to myself, but the rejection of these cultural values, in the form of abstinence, frugality, simple living leaves me feeling marginalized, powerless, alienated, and different, from other people and ultimately in a psychological mess. Probably one of the major reasons I abstain from excess is not so much because of the real meaninglessness of consuming desires, but more so to do with the fact that such a lavish lifestyle comes at a ridiculous high price and when I weigh out the advantages and disadvantages I realize it is a price I am very unwilling to pay. The most obvious price is money, but I spend little money because I have little money. The reason I don’t have so much money in my bank is because I don’t work a lot, the reason I don’t work a lot is because I think it is soul destroying, it degrades me on a spiritual level. Any job a person my age does is almost always a drudge, a meaningless waste of time spent tending to the desires (not the needs) of ungrateful, gluttonous pigs. I can’t do it, it’s just when I think about the state of the world right now there seems to be more important matters that need attention rather than serving some fat ass another beer.

    Well, what does this have to do with university? Well university is the context in which this is all taking place, university is the time in my life that I realized things were not as they seem, people were not as they seemed, values were not as they seemed, life is not as it seemed and now I am broken, I am bitter and lethargic about it all. I can carry on in the hopes that this will end, I hope to emigrate, well maybe delusional but it keeps me hanging on and hopeful. If anyone feels this way too please make yourself known, if anyone has advice then I would love to hear it because I need it. Well thanks for reading yet another post on how much life sucks.

    Friday, January 18, 2008 at 19:37 #
  279. Daniel wrote::

    I think pretty much everyone here feels that way ;) We all typed “I hate university”.
    My only advice is get some sort of hobby that you enjoy – preferably one that could earn money, for when you finish uni.

    Saturday, January 19, 2008 at 07:45 #
  280. Daniel wrote::

    …and it goes without saying that if you hate university – the so called Best Days of Your Life (like all parts of the education system seem to be labelled) – then you’re against all that other soul destroying stuff mentioned.

    Abstaining from those things sadly seems to require abstaining from people. Most people anyway. I wish I knew some people at my Uni who also hated it (and the general uni culture).

    Saturday, January 19, 2008 at 07:59 #
  281. Hugh wrote::

    University has finally defeated me, yeah I’m dropping out, but let’s have none of this ‘oh you’ll end up a failure’ crap. My parents are completely ok with this, and are looking at alternatives for me, such as other colleges, where I can expand my interests into organics or permaculture. Screw this capital ideal of ‘the business world’, let’s not become slaves to this grinding mill and do something meaningful to help others, or at least yourself.
    I’m so sick of the self serving culture nowadays, it’s shite, all these cretins who can afford to come to university WITHOUT having to take out a loan, funded by ‘mummy’ and ‘paparrr’, but who lack the most basic understandings of everyday life, then are plonked into some chairman position at BigCorp, having done fuck-all work to get there can all spin on it until it bored through their shallow little brains! WAAAAAAGH!

    Aaaah rant over. That feels pretty good.

    Friday, January 25, 2008 at 06:50 #
  282. ari wrote::

    I hope everyone who hates their universities gets through their program safely and ends up having a degree. Trust me, without the degree 95% of people end up doing slave labor among stupid lowlifes for the rest of their life. If you’re a gifted businessperson and can start your own company or if you have a real talent for art, you might not need a university–but otherwise… you better try to like it.

    I hated universities all my life (let’s just say my parents were university profs and I hate them too). I hate universities now. All of them. However, at the age of mid-30s, I had to go back and right now trying to complete my BS in computer science.

    Yes, universities are, primarily, instruments of social control, oppression, conformism, abuse such as sexual and racial harassment–and, like someone had said above, of class stratification. They are the tools used by society and governments to package plastic people who will be ready to become corporate units, rivets in the machine of consumer society. Most of the professors at universities are snotty, abusive idiots, who belong in community service facilities.
    As much as I hate schools, however, after I had endured long years of slave work doing hourly jobs, in conditions harmful for my health, sometimes, I feel like completing my degree and seeking professional employment.

    Saturday, January 26, 2008 at 14:34 #
  283. ari wrote::

    PS to my previous post.. in response to “Matt”–
    I agree with your thoughts.. I think you’re definitely on the way to serenity and peace already :) I find that Oriental philosophies have a lot of answers to questions like you’ve asked. We often lack the spiritual component in lives: that makes everything appear empty.

    I feel you shouldn’t worry about shallowness of your relations, or stupidity of your customers, or consumer ways of the modern society—because human nature is primitive and life will always be flawed and tainted by mundane stuff. I think that the enlightened person will always be alone, in a sense. (I’m Goth, and feel alone even in Goth community–but still happy) Yes, being free from desires is very liberating–for me, that included being free from desire or need for relationships as well, because I came to believe that all relationships are shallow in nature. If one is to meet a true friend, this happens rarely and by the will of fate, we can’t force it.

    I think that true art, which is set apart from consumption culture can be an answer to a lot of things. Giving good part of my time to art, I am free from worries about the society’s ways, even though I have to endure the daily drudgery.

    I am not sure why the life of abstinence makes you feel marginalized and powerless… It should make you feel powerful as you’re not a slave to the desires most people are slaves to. Feeling different shouldn’t be a bad feeling as well… (ok, may be as a Goth I’m used to feeling different and as I also am a part of Goth community I don’t feel that isolated.. but it’s better be isolated than be the way the majority of people are, I find the way they live and their interests to be sickening)

    Our soul is killed by material things, by the need to fight for survival and make money… It’s a curse upon a human being, we just have to find a way to endure it in the best way we can, because, there’re no way out of it. A lot of money will not give anyone freedom or empowerment. I knew people whose parents were multi-millionaires but these people were empty, depressed and suicidal all the time. The only way out of a mentally messed-up state is within ourselves… I agree with all those who said that work destroys something within us, but I guess, again, it’s a curse upon humankind, just like the time–every day–destroys something in us, etc–if you really hate your job, just keep changing jobs until you find one where you’re more comfortable and less miserable and devote your spare time to something you love, that excites you, be it a go-go dancing at a fetish club or volunteer work with the needy or praying at a Buddhist temple!

    I

    Saturday, January 26, 2008 at 15:16 #
  284. cheetahss wrote::

    i agree with the person above overconsumption greedy selfish and fake. i hate uni life,the people are rude fake and shallow,for instance i walk by this fake blonde bitch in the hallway while she’s outside someone ’s door saying ‘awww how are you x ,heard u were poorly,feel better!’ then turns to me and gives me this sour dirty look,like wtf?? would it not be easier to say hi!!?? i couldn’t care less whether these kind of people like me or not,it’s when u are on the outside like i am at uni,that u see what people are really like,how fake it all is,i’d rather be on my own than talk to a bunch of fake wannab’s .

    Sunday, January 27, 2008 at 10:07 #
  285. Pete wrote::

    I never knew there were so many.. “unhappy” undergraduates in the UK. That’s one big load off my mind. I thought I was the only one that had “issues”. I’ve been here for 5 years (as undergrad) and covered two degree courses in HOPE of getting some form of higher education. The learning is TOTALLY different to that of GCSE or A’ level. I don’t like this style. I liked it when I got 8A*’s and 2A’s for GCSE, not now when I get 38% for assignments (3rd year) and by-the-skin-of-my-teeth pass for 2nd year in Computer Science.
    Would I go so far as to say I “hate” university? I know this much – it isn’t for everyone. And for these people that DO go, they really will find it torture. During my years here, I found one word described this place pretty well: “Incarseration”. A prison for the quasi-intelligent.
    Pretty much everything you guys have already mentioned I have been through here and have observed. The people are very accurately portrayed. Students are indeed, as a whole, a binge-drinking, loud, immature fake-in-your-face species. Only a few are actually genuine.
    Depression, insecurity, loneliness. Some of these factors are still with me today. I’m in my last year and have 4 months 20 days 9 hours to go before I can wave goodbye to this place. It’s safe to say I CAN’T WAIT to get out.
    What has kept me going? I joined an archery club at my uni in my 2nd year. It has kept me sane. It has given me proper friends – not some of these single-dimensional false ones that think it’s cool to speak posh even though they’re a chav from Bolton (nothing against people from Bolton.. I’m a brummy myself). As a result of hard work, I have earnt myself 4th place ranking, teetering close to 3rd, in the UK for all university leagues and hold the league record. I found something I was good at! The only thing is after winning a big match I have to go back to the thing I’m not so good at. OK, “not so good” is an exaggeration. I am TERRIBLE at my degree. I’ve been through half of one before and I was TERRIBLE at that. I have come to realise there is no point in worrying or getting upset over how WELL you do at university. You will inevitably make yourself ill mentally and physically (I lost 3 stone in the first few months when I started uni for the first time). Just get THROUGH it. Do stuff you enjoy, work a little bit to keep lecturers borderline happy.. job done. You walk out of uni with some sort of degree, but you’re sane because you’ve done something else while you were there. I don’t know how you guys can cope with a degree without something positive to distract you. I would, quite simply, be in a world of shit if I didn’t have archery.
    I took the time to do a coaching course and I can make £20 an hour teaching archery to beginners. I have the ability to talk to large groups of people. I can help organise and run a club. These are the kind of properties that an interviewer is looking for, not just a big fat juicy “BSc First Hons” on your CV. Life’s too short to live life unhappily. To those who have contributed to this (enormous) thread, I wish you all the best of luck, I really do mean that. You are certainly not alone, and yes, given the chance I would love to blow up my university too. I am proud that you can have the courage to stand out from the crowd and state, what is, the obvious to most who stay at uni (but who are far too scared themselves to even think it).
    NEVER worry about what other people think. You have control over your own life. And these few years are only a fraction of what is to come. You’re at uni because you know it’s the right thing to do, even though it’s ridiculus and you have no friends. Screw them all. Screw them all to hell. Live life alone, you don’t need these bastards. Concentrate on making ONE true close friend. That is all you need.
    Make an effort with work, because a degree isn’t served to you on a plate: even though at THE PRICE WE’RE PAYING IT SHOULD BE!
    And just think, every day you are that bit closer to freedom. That little bit closer to being released into the real world, where.. GUESS WHAT? You’re gonna have the time of your life.

    Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 23:23 #
  286. ANNOYED wrote::

    I am extremely annoyed at University. I have been here for 1 semester and it is way too dragging. I live at home still and have a ton of non-uni mates who I see 4 or 5 times a week. The problem for me is that I have found 4 good people to sit and chat to during my lessons but they are simply never in and skive a lot. I would love it if these people showed up everyday so I would have someone to talk to. It is awkward to come into a room, see nobody you really can sit with and end up either sitting by yourself or sitting with people who you never usually talk to.

    People seem to have made friends so quickly and love uni. I just hate the akwardness of not being able to talk to someone. The most awkward times are during breaks which can range from 20mins to 2hr 30min. Usually I can go home for the long ones or meet up with my non-uni mates for lunch. But sometimes when there is nobody to go to lunch with it is quite depressing to say the least.

    Now my second semester has started and I am just hoping the few people I enjoy sitting with come back and improve their attendance!

    I guess I am extremely lucky to be able to still have a large group of non-uni friends who I can see nearly everyday of the week. No matter how shit some of Uni can be, I usually always have something to look forward to, wether it is lunch with a few pals or heading down to the pub on a Friday night with the usuals.

    I can safely say that I would NOT have survived in halls.

    Good luck to all of you at uni!

    Thursday, January 31, 2008 at 08:04 #
  287. Anonymouse wrote::

    I had high hopes about university. i loved my degree course, loved the thought of what lay ahead for me here .. freedom, like minded people, etc. i got what i wanted regards to an interesting course but the ppl I’ve meet have been absolute fucking retards. I’ve never had to deal with so much shit in my whole fucking life & because of it Im leaving. I dont want to go but I have no choice. Back to my crappy small town, but at least I’ll be away from stupid pretentious student FUCKERS.

    Thursday, January 31, 2008 at 10:53 #
  288. Matt wrote::

    Right on Anonymouse, that is exactly how I feel. You can really enjoy something but when you are surrounded by superficial pretentious douche bags, it’s hard to stand alone and it’s only a matter of time before the tearing and wearing breaks you down. I am approaching that stage sooner than I thought. Well, all the best. I am sure it is at least a relief to be away from all the crap you come across at a typical uni these days, it shouldn’t be an American teen flick but unfortunately it is.

    Thursday, January 31, 2008 at 15:49 #
  289. cheetahs wrote::

    SO do u give up your dream of becoming a zoologist because of these idiot students who make u feel like shit and an alien? i sit in my room everyday and cry,it’s so depressing i feel so excluded,i HATE my housemates SO much,how can they make someone feel like this,feel so alone and excluded,I passed my idiot housemates last night on the hall,they were on their way out to a club,i had tears in my eyes,and all they did was give me a dirty look,they would never ask are you ok?,no,i just feel so alone and want to cry,i sit in my room all day ,i may be shy and quiet,but is that a crime? i hate it here,i feel like such a loser,people from my home(ireland) say i’m a really funny person,but knowone hear will even give me a chance to talk,they give you these filthy looks,i’m thinking,why would you do that,how can you make someone feel like that without feeeling any guilt? whats SO wrong with me?

    Friday, February 1, 2008 at 01:00 #
  290. Matt wrote::

    Most likely nothing is wrong with you, you have probably heard this before but in this case I think I can see that the problem lies with your house mates, they got problems. I am not so different to you in that I don’t go clubbing, I am quiet and shy, I sometimes spend days on end in my room completely alone and of course I hate it, but I have completely given up on other people because in general I find uni students are pretentious, narcissistic, anti-social, superficial, boring, over confident douche bags, and the ones that have the most pride always seem to be the ones who are least able to justify it and that is probably their biggest problem. But really, don’t get caught up in that crap, don’t even think about it, just let it be, let them rot in their own avarice and conceit. If becoming a zoologist is your dream, then don’t forget that dream and stay with it, it can be hard being alone but personally I find that if I acknowledge that genuine people are a rare blessing then I also realize that what other people are doing or saying just becomes immaterial. If you are so lonely, try joining a club, maybe you won’t make instant friends, but it will definitely ease the pain of alienation. I joined Judo, and there is no one there that I have become really close friends with, but they are friendly, and they are there, they offer some degree of association so I don’t feel that lonely, I feel that at least these are people out there on the horizon that I know. So I don’t know you, but that is just my general advice to you. I said I have given up completely on people, but maybe not, I have a small margin for that rare person I occasionally come across that is genuine, and they exist and are worth holding out for.

    Friday, February 1, 2008 at 11:26 #
  291. amedjones wrote::

    you guys are nuts, i dont hate university cuz of the people. i hate it cuz of the endless bullshit courses we’re forced to take which wont benefit us in the real world. Uni is just an institute with false hope. lyin to students making us believe that there’s no future if u dont have that piece of paper that says “Degree”. So being stuck in this inevitable rip off, they make us pay high tuition fees, buy expensive books that will only used in 4 months, then staked up in the shelve to collect dust.
    I know enough people graduated from Uni only to be working at a shitty cubical job making shitty wages barely enough to pay the bills. coming home to a small apartment with no life cuz they gotta wake up at 5 am the next mornin only to repeat the small bullshit all over again
    Ya University sucks, profs dont give a shit about ur success, they’re just there to collect their paycheck and fuck off just like every other being in the world.

    bottom line. If you really want a future, Fuck Uni, go out there and make ur own
    peace

    Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 04:39 #
  292. cheetahss wrote::

    I really don’t like the english *sheep* students who treat me as a second class citizen because I’m Irish… racists

    Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 03:12 #
  293. Katherine wrote::

    YAY!!! I fucking hate uni too – final year French and German student and the work this year is killing me, not to mention that I am living in halls with a bunch of fuckwits who think it is funny to run around hammering on people’s doors. 4 months till i leave!!!!! Cannot bloody wait!!!

    Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 04:17 #
  294. Katherine wrote::

    The annoying thing is that I changed universities after my first year because I thought i was going somewhere better. Nope, its worse. Bastards.

    Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 04:19 #
  295. Kent wrote::

    The worst thing about uni is how the lectures go through so much information in such a little time and expect us to somehow fully understand it straight away. I am doing a very respectable course, and I am about to start my 2nd year. I don’t understand what is the point of them teaching us all of this information, but because they rush it, we only understand the bare minimum as to pass the final exam. High School was so much better as we could study more slowly, absorbing more information, and the fact that we did not have to do assignments/study every single waking moment.

    Friday, February 15, 2008 at 14:00 #
  296. Alex wrote::

    hate university too.. It is a hard problem to drag me there and stay in the bus 40 mins or more. I had enough. I hate it , it isn`t for me but I wanna become an architect , now ca coalworker…… or worst. I hate listening teachers Anyway fuck university

    Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 14:58 #
  297. Chris wrote::

    I’m glad now I didn’t go to university, as I soul searched and found that I was only wanted to go for the social life, not the actual course. I think a lot of people are the same.

    As my university dreams have been shot down again and again and the Peak Oil theory is really getting me down I’m going travelling around the world soon. I’m alone but I’m happy for company. So if anyone who has dropped out of university and wants to come with me then just say it. I think a trip would do you good as you must feel pretty crummy if your dreams have fallen apart.

    But if you can hang in there, then do. Three years is a relatively short time when you could live for another 40-50 years. So do you best and I’ll be thinking for you all. Make us too-dumb-for-uni lot proud!

    Chris

    Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 07:22 #
  298. Sam wrote::

    I’m really not liking uni right now, my course sucks as they lied on their website about what I got to study, so now I’m learning stuff I’m really not interested in. I also hate the way everyone here seems to have gone off in little groups, I tried to make friends here and I have a few, but not best friends for life. My flatmates annoy me and some nutter lives upstairs and trys to break into the flat at night, fucking scary.

    Friday, February 22, 2008 at 01:56 #
  299. Dee wrote::

    Finally people who understand me!
    I am a 2nd yr student at Melbourne University and I despise it.
    The people there are absolutely horrid and it has been nearly impossible for me to be very socially involved. I currently have no friends and very few acquaintances.
    I would love to make friends whom I could bitch and moan with :p
    I must say its lovely to see that there are people out there that hate uni as much as me!!! :)

    Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 12:35 #
  300. Jess wrote::

    I’m in my final year now, a little less then 4 months left, although this seems like forever when I think about the amount of work and exams to get through before I finish. I hated uni from the very start, but decided to stick with it because I had worked so hard to get there, and I kept saying to myself it would get better next year… but it never did, if anything it got worse! There has been many times when I have been extremely close to dropping out… but I was too scared of making the wrong decision and regretting it… in a way I wished I had dropped out during the first year then at least I wouldn’t have wasted much time and energy, but I have to carry on otherwise I would of wasted nearly 3 years!

    I feel I am now half the person I used to be, before uni I had a good group of close friends, I had a decent social life and was generally happy. Now, I have no friends at uni, I hate the people I have to live with at uni, I don’t have a social life, I have little money, and I spend my days trying to do uni work which makes me stresses me out like hell. In a way I feel ashamed that I have not enjoyed my time at uni… to me it is a prison sentence. I know I put myself through it no one forced me to go, but I thought it was the best thing to do was to stick at it…. but now I feel what’s more important is being happy.

    I agree with Chris go travel the world instead of uni, or at least go travelling before you decide to go to uni. It’s a real eye opener and it will put things in perspective. xxx

    Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 02:19 #
  301. Jessi wrote::

    I just had my first week of uni and already I HATE it. It is so hard to get to know people here. Why? Despite what many automatically think, it’s definitely not because I’m someone who is anti-social, weird or anything along those lines. I’m a nice, funny and friendly person, someone easy to talk to when you first meet. It’s just that the uni environment seems to make it exceptionally difficult to make friends. For instance, except for 2 lessons in a week, none of the people I already know or have met are in my classes. Also, in each lecture so far I have ended up seated next to a different person because the class numbers are so huge and so I can never really see any of the people I met last time. It means it’s difficult to actually become friends with any of them – since I most likely won’t see them again. I guess all I can do is laugh at my own bad luck – which undoubtedly, has something to do with it. Such as: my timetable (hardly any classes or breaks at the same time with people I know), who ends up sitting next to me (they either happen to not be in any other common classes as me or I don

    Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 05:27 #
  302. John wrote::

    I am in my second year of sciences in a canadian university and I agree with alot of you…I hate it! You cannot say that I’m not in the right program because I have tried taking courses from many other programs and they all were boring and shitty, and sciences is the least shitty one. I don’t know what to do anymore, I want to get into medicine, but because of all the stupid professors I keep screwing up marks and I just feel like I’m being fucked everyday of my life…I love the idea of medicine, I want to do it, and I have been through lots of experiences in my life that made me realize that I want to be a doctor, but it’s not that simple when you study stupid ass chemistry courses about industrial reactions, and biology courses about plants and all that crap. I wouldn’t wanna go into the health science faculty or the biological medicine program because I know that the courses there suck too…any advise?

    Tuesday, March 11, 2008 at 13:46 #
  303. Michael Phake DukemanN wrote::

    I am taking this semester off university and already I am noticing some significant positive differences in my mentality, attitude, and general spiritual well being. Maybe some of you guys should try it, because it is such a nice feeling not having to go back to that place for a while. I hated it so much. I have always been studious, but I just can

    Wednesday, March 12, 2008 at 11:20 #
  304. Christopher-George wrote::

    You guys are the BEST! I thought I was the only fucking person who thinks university is a joke! I want to be a musician or own my own business. However, my Dad is pushing for CEO of some ridiculous bank. He’s been on my case since I was about 7 and I unfortunately did very well in my final school exams and landed in a laws double degree by default. Arhghhh somebody get me the rope. I’m already looking forward to my escape and it’s only week 4.

    Saturday, March 15, 2008 at 13:16 #
  305. Hungry George wrote::

    Anybody who is really really fucked up because of Uni and needs somebody to talk to, email me… frankie_mansfield@hotmail.com Especially if you’re in Australia. Fuck, man. I HATE the arrogance of the Law students I have to study with. They are so fucking pretentious and uncultured. There is no way I associate with that shit – if I make friends, it’s with the Arts people. I can’t stand the majority of Law students: they all whine and whinge about this and that, they are all upper class bastards who have lived in a city their whole lives. My god. Who gives a shit that you hate Tort Law or you have to get up so early on a Friday morning? You didn’t move from a small town more than 2,000 km away to study, you didn’t move for more than 6 months without family, you didn’t have to spend more than 3 hours a day on public transport to study. I am miserable being surrounded by all these cliquey city people. Pub crawls can seriously fuck off.

    Friday, March 21, 2008 at 20:18 #
  306. MANKY MAN wrote::

    I totally agree with the UNI idea, why should it take soo long to get anywhere? and then finding you could have done better doing something else or you have to go back, because what you really want to do requires more life years spent reading too many words that no normal person will ever understand again. Next time I will learn the dictionary.

    Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 14:12 #
  307. Xenophon wrote::

    I am very disillusioned and go about my life in a mechanical schizoid way. The courses are quite engaging, but my fellow students are lacking in quality. Everyday for them is the same dull facsimile of the day before. “Are you drinking tonight?” How many unwanted conversations about the sex lives of boors have I been made awkward witness to? Alcohol, marijuana, and other vices occupy the minds of my so called peers without reprise. Simply put, the extreme majority of students I have met have no imagination or sense of creativity. Nightly they piss their money away, make loud noises, and irritate me. I really don

    Friday, March 28, 2008 at 05:25 #
  308. Tired wrote::

    Ive been at uni since sep07 and i absolutley detested it at first. Im nt sure what happened but i think i was just shell shocked by the whole experience and kind of just had a bit of a breakdown. It was NOTHING like what i expected it to be. Never had i been surrounded by sooo many ppl but still felt like the loneliest person in the world. It was strange and id always been fine at home. I suppose i just expected to click with people staright away just like i had in high school and that wed spend time together and hang out all the time. But as time went on and i realised i didnt click with my flatmates i just gave up and stayed in my room since i thought it was pointless spending time with ppl i dont even like or know. I know that thats not the right attitude and doing that just made me feel more reclusive and depressed but i couldnt help it. Luckily my boyf lived in the same city as my uni so i could see him whenever i felt low but that still wasnt enough. I think ive now come to the point of not detesting uni anymore cos i realised that theres nothing wrong with not having the ’stereotypical’ uni experience. I have a couple of mates i can hang out with now and even though its not my ‘dream’ scenario since i know theyre not my best mates in the world (like id hoped id make) i still have fun with them and it doesnt matter. Ive learned not to take things too seriously. After all itll all be over in a couple of years. Its not worth dwelling on. I mean we only actually spend around 6months there at a time. The only thing i do dread about uni is the constant noise. It can really take its toll if your living in halls as well as the constant fire alarms

    Tuesday, April 1, 2008 at 22:36 #
  309. anthony wrote::

    university is a fucking BITCH

    Wednesday, April 2, 2008 at 11:11 #
  310. MIkey wrote::

    FUCK UNIVERSITY, it’s a RIP off. So depressing and sad.

    Thursday, April 3, 2008 at 20:15 #
  311. Jessi wrote::

    What the FUCK is with the random posts above? Isn’t this supposed to be a place where we vent about uni, not advertise ‘women wrestlers naked’ and all that other crap up there?? Wtf happened?

    Saturday, April 5, 2008 at 08:08 #
  312. hopeful wrote::

    i am starting uni this september, all of you have really crushed my dreams and expectations of what uni will be like, i dont want to loose my creativity and passion but from listening to all of you, it seems inevitable.

    Sunday, April 6, 2008 at 22:10 #
  313. Joel Pan wrote::

    @Jessi: That’s what happens when I forget to check on the site for a few days. I’ve removed the spam. Now you see why I need people to help maintain the site :) (Especially since I’m no longer in university myself and I’m kinda out of the loop now.)

    Monday, April 7, 2008 at 20:22 #
  314. AB wrote::

    “I Hate University” is what I typed in my Google search…by the look of it so have half the students in the world. It’s weird that this feeling is so common, when students discuss it so little face to face, maybe it’s pride, or people feel they have to keep their heads held high. I am at uni in Australia studying a BEng and am in my 4th year. I am a mature age student (29) and even though I am so close to the end of my course (November) I am very disheartened, despite being one of the top students. Uni has taken my creativity, what happened to my dreams of being a writer? Why can’t I find time to finish my book? Where is the desire to be different…fucking sheep is what uni turns out. If you talks up against the system and stand up to the cock sucking lecturers they hold it against you forever by giving you shit grades. Fuck, I just want to get half these useless fuck lecturers in the boxing ring and smash fuck out of them. It’s all I can do to not walk in that place and knock half of them out. CUNTS. As for my course it’s wicked, engineering is cool (for me anyway), it’s just the uni system that fucks me off, and most of the students are alright. The cockheads will learn the hard way when the get into the real world…trust me, I’ve seen it happen many times before. They’ll still be crying to mummy and daddy when they’re 30. I feel much better guys, thanks for the opportunity to post. Oh well, only 11 hours and I’ll be back at uni again ha ha ha Be strong everyone and be lucky

    Sunday, April 13, 2008 at 21:21 #
  315. sam wrote::

    omg it is amazing what you come across when you are trying to run away from the guilt of not studying. i typed in “i hate uni” in google and have come across the greatest thread in history!! I HATE UNI with a PASSION!! coming on the 5th and final year of study and ive just had enough. im burnt out. toast. finished. im going to be venting here from now on. whoever created this site – BRAVO!

    Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 15:38 #
  316. rox wrote::

    hey im towards the end of my second yr of my psychology degree it seem like im doing everything wrong and that im the only fucking stupid bitch in my uni thats failing near enough everything just dont know what the fuck im doing i have a feeling im gona fail my degree with flying colours and wont get a decent job and be working in asda for the minimum wage then again you need fuckinh experience to be working in asda these days{ which i dont have} any one else in the same boat. rox. xxx

    Thursday, April 17, 2008 at 00:37 #
  317. Sandy wrote::

    i too typed in ” i hate university” and this came up! i have an essay for Civil Liberties, a subject in my first year law course, due in for tomorrow at 12, and have written absolutely nothing. I can’t stand the course, i thought i’d find law interesting, i should have gone and done an artistic degree like i originally wanted but my parents wanted me to do a “proper” degree first and now won’t let me leave. I failed half of my courses last term as i can’t find enthusiasm for any of the content. As others have said there’s so many people who go out almost every night, get wasted, set fire alarms off and run around halls, and i feel like i can’t join in with that because it just isn’t me. I have a few friends up here but most of them are from my part time job, or used to go to the same school as me. it’s so so depressing and now i totally realise why so many people commit suicide at university, and why the government doesn’t give a damn or do anything to change it. i want to be a film maker, but how can you be one without a top american film school degree, or enough money to buy professional camera equipment? university is like a whirlpool that you get drowned into.

    Thursday, April 17, 2008 at 05:01 #
  318. RnF wrote::

    i think that teachers should just stop nagging us and let us be,stupid bitch ms kelly keeps pestering me in physics and i honestly felt like smacking her. might move to london such a nice place RnF

    Saturday, April 19, 2008 at 00:40 #
  319. Hannah wrote::

    Hi guys. This is just a quick one, I found this site through typing in ‘ i hate university’ as I have felt for quite some time now, that I might be the only one that hates this pile of crap. I am finishing my second year of media in Liverpool, I done really well in the first year, although I have social anxiety disorder and it meant I made no friends. The second year has been a fucking nightmare though, my attendance has been awful and the students are all pretentious shitty faced pricks, that I hate. They think the world is their oyster and that the most important thing in the world is where their next weed is coming from. I am on anti depressants and seeing a councillor, but I hate this. GRRRRRR. Please someone, anyone, save me!!! Love Hannahx

    Saturday, April 19, 2008 at 05:37 #
  320. Dreamer wrote::

    Hey Hannah, (and everyone else for that matter), sorry to hear you’re having a shitty time at uni. My advice to you would be if you’re really not happy and it’s affecting your attendance and performance to take a break or ‘temporary withdrawal’ as it’s known after your second year. If you’re on anti depressants and seeing a councillor, that’s more than a valid reason so there shouldn’t be any problem. The advantage of doing this is, you get a break from Uni, but still have the option of returning next year should you wish. In the same breathe, if you find during your year off, you really don

    Saturday, April 19, 2008 at 22:08 #
  321. No 7 wrote::

    Hi Hannah, your post sounds exactly the same as me. Also in 2nd year at uni, have SAD, on antidepressents, hate university etc. I think having SAD is probably the worst possible thing to have at university, completely socially disabling and I hate it more than anything (yes more than university!)

    Monday, April 21, 2008 at 20:54 #
  322. bitter wrote::

    I HATE UNI SO DAMN MUCH. I am now ready to throw in the towel. i am in my 3rd year of primary teaching and have transferred from monash (great uni) to deakin (shit uni), i did not have a choice in subjects at deakin due to crediting what i had already done, and i only have one subject that is actually about teaching! 2 x 1500 word essays due on monday and im trying to decide NOW whether to quit the course, so that i dont do those waste of time essays for nothing. A bitch of a teacher gave me a pass, first pass i have ever gotten! she wrote the most sarcastic rude comments on my essay, bitch whore slut! i walked into uni today to have a go at her, only to find another bitch whore slut had taken her spot for the day. so i went to see the course counsellor, and suprised myself because i burst into tears in front of this complete stranger! the stress makes me sleep all the time to avoid thinking about what essays i should be doing. oh but everyone will think im a quitter, a loser. do i even want to be a teacher anymore with the crap wage, is it just a glorified babysitting job. it is a 24/7 job, the amount of planning u have to do when u come home! ahhhhhh im so bitter!!! what am i going to do? p.s. meanwhile i have my fiance telling me i can manage and teach at his acting studio he is buying in two weeks. the thought of never having to write a pointless essay again is BLLLLISS

    Thursday, April 24, 2008 at 16:18 #
  323. Bel wrote::

    I am sitting at Uni right now on a public holidayy, typing “I hate Uni” into Google, and I am so enlightened by what I find in these forums. I am in my last year of a B.Sc. at UQ in Brisbane and people ask me all the time what I want to do when I finish. I’ve no freaking idea but I know I definitely could not hack doing an Honours in the immediate future, I don’t want to do research and I don’t want to work in a lab. What is there for me? I spend ten hours a day at least at Uni working my arse off in an attempt for good marks but the work never stops, it’s one assignment after the other or hour after hour in the lab doing pracs. When does this shit ever end? It is going to get me nowhere in the end and then I’ll have wasted three years of my life being a broke, stressed, unhappy student. Where was the advice before we started Uni about the kinds of hell you would go through just for a ridiculous piece of paper at the end of it? It would have made me think twice about entering this shithouse-lifestyle and putting myself into massive debt. University is all about making money, they are businesses not educators. The lecturers are mostly untrained in how to actually teach and are most unmotivating. University is a glorified highschool where once you finish nothing actually matters, all they want is your money. I don’t know how I will manage to get through this last year but I can’t quit now. When this shit is all over no-one will know me as a Botanist, I will still be me but now I might have a chance at getting a job that will pay off some of my student debt and help me get the hell out of here. I dream of travelling – not of being a scientist. I want the life I had before I had to sacrifice my soul to Uni. To all of you, I am so pleased to know I am not alone in my thoughts or bitterness, nor in the urges to quit Uni and stomp all over their prestigiuos reputations. Good luck!

    Friday, April 25, 2008 at 12:48 #
  324. LB756 wrote::

    I bit the bullet today and packed it in. I said to myself if they wouldn’t let me transfer course, I’d quit. I hated my course and I hated the people I lived with, what was the point of staying? I would have done well, but there’s no way I was going through another 3 soul-crushing years like the one I’d gone through. I can honestly say that I haven’t felt so happy in a very, very long time. I’m going to teach myself German over the summer and move to Munich in the autumn, and do what I want to do and not what society expects of me.

    Tuesday, April 29, 2008 at 07:02 #
  325. acce wrote::

    man this website has helped me see that I’m not alone. I have all ways been able to make friends very easily which I did when I moved in to halls on the first day. I studied a lot in the first semester but started to lose intrest in the second because I couldn’t see why we were learnin this utter bullshit. I’m nearing at the end of my second year and I am feeling quite depressed because I dont want to let my family and especially my dad down but I think I’m gonna drop out. My dad came from a shitty council estate and is well off now, but has worked his bollocks off to get where he is. I dont want to be stuck in a job I dont like but Now a degree mite aswell be a bit of fucking shit roll cos it really aint worth shit. Fuck uni. I just dont want to let my dad down and if I being honest I dont want to let myself down. I dont know what to do.

    Thursday, May 1, 2008 at 10:08 #
  326. sophie wrote::

    uni has turned me MENTAL! I should be doing a two week project in one night tonight for tommorow instead googling ‘i hate uni’..i’ve decided i’m not going to go in tommorow..buying me the weekend to finish my work..though i know i’ll leave it to the last minute again. my teacher has completley erroded my self esteem and creativity. now i don’t even know where to start with new projects. i have no motivation. i feel scared and overwhelmed to even start projects…even something like ‘design a leaflet!’ i just feel like i don’t know where to start and feel as though i can’t do it. i know i was a bloody good graphic designer :( and i got three distinctions for my btec…but now i hate it! but everywhere i go…i see graphic design everywhere! and it just guilt trips me from doing my work! uni has really changed me as a person. i can’t really explain how i feel..it’s really strange.. i kind of feel as though I have nothing to say anymore. when i ring friends or family..i’m so unhappy that.. i just have no conversation and i find it really hard to talk to people now. i’m really self concious and judge everything i say/do and compare myself to other people in social situations, thinking i’m not as good as them. even though i know that i wouldn’t like to be like them and i’m probably a nicer person and i’m quite pretty and should probably be confident with myself. i feel constantly ill and tired and miserable :( i get periods when i’m like ‘pull yourself together! be happy. everythings fine!’ and go to uni feeling positive, but i walk home feeling negative again. i’m really lonely :( i have a few close friends but i hate the nights when they’re out and i’m just stuck at home by myself. i have accquantances and i want to get closer to them. but it’s hard to pass the line of becoming friends and hanging out and stuff and just saying hi and having a quick chat. the highlight of my life when i think ‘i love uni life!’ is the drunken nights out but i hardly have time to do that anymore with the workload. i’ve been single my whole time at uni. i recently started seeing someone that I’ve loved my whole time at uni,but i think ruined by being clingy, because i’m lonely here:( i just feel like a want someone to look after me and make me less lonely! i felt like i couldn’t show them my true self cos i’m so unhappy. but i know that until i’m happy with myself and my life i won’t have a relationship. i miss college and my btec so much! i was a million times happier then. my course inspired me and i loved graphic design. i have no idea what to do with my life after uni though! this course has completley turned me against graphic design and i hate it now :( i’d quite to be a hairdresser lol! but again that’s a few years at college that i won’t be able to afford. i wanted to design for a fashion magazine after uni…but i think i’ve ruined my chances of that :( cos i can’t do the work anymore so i won’t have a good portfolio to get me the job. i’m missing my family and feel guilty that i never see my grandparents and things like that :( and i toss and turn at nights when i’m trying to sleep, loads of thoughts of money, work i haven’t done…going through my head. i wake up in the morning with a knot in my stomach :( arrrgghhhhh.i don’t see myself getting through next year :( but i have to. i’ve come this far and i’m half way through. x

    Friday, May 2, 2008 at 04:34 #
  327. adlow wrote::

    the most fucking experience that influenced my life i did not get it until the end and i’m feeling suck about it shit university when you are inside it’s a probleme and when you leave it it’s a probleme holy shit i become nerveous about not being complete my studies mamamamama i wanna cry shit. sorry this is how university make you

    Saturday, May 3, 2008 at 07:00 #
  328. Pete wrote::

    Sory to hear this Sophie. The torture will never end unfortunately. It’s a shame you’re half way through because giving up will become harder and harder to do as you get closer to finishing. I have 26 days left until my degree is offically over. I have nothing left to do but revise for just two exams then I am done completely. University can go fuck itself up its arse. :) OH GOD that felt good saying that. I’m usually quite a polite person, but that needed to be said. As quite a lonely person, you tend to notice other students’ behaviour around you better. Tell me guys whether you think this is true of all students (especially in collegiate universities): 1) You are guaranteed to find them in clusters between 2 and 15 people. 2) You will never find a student on their own and if you do.. well, that’s me! 3) EVERY SINGLE student will put on some kind of posh fucking accent to ‘blend in’ 4) When they’re in their little cluster they talk VERY LOUUUDLY – as if they’re trying to grab attention to other clusters, to make them look very cool. 5) Clusters will always fucking walk in ONE BIG LINE.. EVERYWHERE! Single file is a big no-no here; to be part of the cluster you must be seen at all times by taking up the entire hall, forcing to to be pushed into the fucking wall. 6) Students LOVE to draw attention to themselves subconsciously – They will walk wearing ridiculous shoes that flip and flop very loudly, or scrape their feet along the ground on purpose to make noise. 7) The more “drunk they got last night” the more “popular” they are. 8) Are vain, self-centred, careless and don’t give a shit about disrupting other people unless it’s someone from their “cluster”. 9) ALL WEAR THEIR COLLARS UP.. what the fuck is that all about? I was born in the 1980’s.. I’m not that out of fashion am I?! I think that’s it for now. I’m vented and feel much better. Thanks to the person who made this page. I salute you.

    Sunday, May 4, 2008 at 04:05 #
  329. Nate wrote::

    I see a lot of people enjoying their time at uni, but not me! I think its because I feel like im getting ripped off big time; everything we do we have to do on our own and yet we’re paying massive amounts just to do this (when we can do it for free outside of uni). For example, making friends/meeting new people, reading and learning off a freaking textbook, buying overpriced food, using shitty ass computers… god dammit, i dont need to go to uni to do these things. ARGHH I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU! Lies.. it was all lies… Hffffhfh. Tomorrow I will talk to someone in my lectures and spread my hatred. I no longer care what comes out of my mouth – it doesnt mean anything to anyone anyway.

    Monday, May 5, 2008 at 12:19 #
  330. Pete wrote::

    Yes, I thought this Nate. The only thing that made me think paying over

    Tuesday, May 6, 2008 at 02:27 #
  331. sam wrote::

    i fuckin hate uni! and me, like a dumb ass… i decide to go for a double degree! i finisihed physio and this is my last year of ergonomics… let me tell u this was honsetly the dumbest decision of my LIFE! i am working 4 days a week doin physio, and 1 fucked up day of uni, and i still get depressed! it doesnt matter about how many contact hours, or what course your doing… its the fact that u have to do assignments. its the fact that u have to study for fucked up exams. its the fact that you are paying a shitload out of ur ass and u get a big FUCK YOU in return, especially when u start working and realise uni taught u jack!

    Wednesday, May 7, 2008 at 13:44 #
  332. relieved wrote::

    My 4 years of hell ends next thursday, three exams to get through before then, but it’s okay this time because the end is in sight.I just wanted to say good luck to everyone and thanks for sharing here, this thread has been a godsend to me since my 2nd year. Keep it going for the sanity of future students!

    Wednesday, May 7, 2008 at 19:17 #
  333. jen wrote::

    yes. FUCK UNIVERSITY. i feel the same way. i’m getting good grades but have no life. last week i was recovering from insomnia and loss of appetite due to the stress of handing in 3 consecutive fucking major assignments. i can’t even sleep properly anymore because i keep having nightmares about uni. i like my new friends but we never have the time to get close seeing as i see them only in my classes. i have lots of my old school buddies from high school and we’re still v. v. close but i don’t have time to see them because of fucking uni. people judge me on my course too coz i’m doing arts even tho i got a very high ENTER score. it’s coz i thought i’d really like arts. but i HATE it and sometimes i can’t even blame everyone for all the “arts students are dumb” jokes (which i’m so fucking sick of too) because in a way it’s true…i mean how am i going to make money after i graduate. i have no idea, but i don’t think i’m good at anything else either. while i hate the whole fucking course… i cant change coz i think i’d hate everything else more. i have this subject called behavioural studies which is totally fucked up and makes me feel very depressed about the world. it pretty much tells us that we’re bad people destroying the world with all our consumer powers and there’s no way to fix it. what’s the point of teaching us this fucked up crap when they could be figuring a way to try and fix the problem? my other courses are also dry uninteresting crap, i have to read booklets of shit that don’t make sense and won’t help me find a job in 2 and a half years time when i graduate. i find myself getting more and more depressed and hating life and constantly feeling guilty even when i relax…and i’m becoming a loner. the only guy i was interested in and semily friends with has been taken away by some whorebag while i skipped 2 lectures to finish assignments on time. to top this all off i am paying a shitload of money to make myself more unhappy. and when you think about it uni won’t even gurantee that we’ll get jobs. it just notches your chances slightly. FUCKING UNIVERSITY. sorry for all the swearing guys ^^;; i’m usually a very quiet, polite person. i’m just so angry and passionately supportive of you guys and ur uni hatred. don’t give up tho. we have to keep trying. it’s just one period of our lives and then we can move out from this hell like “relived” (message above mine)…anyway thanks for starting this thread and letting me vent alongside you guys i feel better now after a particularly bad day at uni :D bye good luck guys..hope you have it better than me atm

    Monday, May 12, 2008 at 17:58 #
  334. Vicky wrote::

    I quit Uni today and it FEELS SO GOOD! Its aload of crap and i was sick of being miserable every day. Life is for living so if your not happy leave + do something worthwhile. You only get one life, dont waste it xXx

    Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 23:13 #
  335. Brian wrote::

    You all sound like 13 year old kids disillusioned with the world. Have none of you grown up at all. All you need to learn is that life is hard. You all sound lazy to me, you cant even be arsed to hand in reports.

    Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 01:43 #
  336. JJ4EVA wrote::

    I agree with Brian….university is not meant to be a stroll in the park. If it didn’t challenge you then it wouldn’t prepare you for the real world. Anyone who says that uni isn’t fun at the same time as being challenging must have a social deficiet disorder. Get out there join a society, make some friends, get laid (you dont need to have alcohol to have a good time) stop wollowing in your own self pity and get off these blogs!!!!

    Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 01:53 #
  337. Go away wrote::

    You don’t know us. Stop pretending you do. I’m glad you’ve had an easy life through uni – you’re lucky. This is for people who HATE university and have had rough times. Go away.

    Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 02:36 #
  338. Blank wrote::

    Shh. You’ve had a great time at uni. Good for you. We haven’t. Leave us to rant it makes us feel better.

    Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 02:38 #
  339. What a facade wrote::

    I love how these people like brian and JJ4EVA have actually bothered to come onto this page and comment, when to get here you have to search for something along the lines of “I hate university”. You’re just as miserable as us, but to make yourselves feel better you’d rather try to make us feel worse. Oh, and I personally have no problems getting laid, I just fucking hate university. Why do you assume the two correlate?

    Monday, May 19, 2008 at 02:52 #
  340. I hate Uni wrote::

    University can go FUCK itself up its FUCKING ass.

    Tuesday, May 20, 2008 at 04:07 #
  341. Louis wrote::

    I too googled I hate uni! Im in my final week of assignments and afterwards I am free of this regime of university! I cannot wait to leave uni and I too feel like all of you who have posted here. I had dreams and aspirations of uni, meeting new people, enjoying my course. Instead I meet fake arrogant people, have a shit course and count the hours until I can sit in my room eating or fucking about on the internet. One thing uni has taught me is to open my eyes…bigger. I cant drop out either, or my parents would kill me. Im taking a film course and all I’ve been doing is writing essays on ” It could be this…or it could be that” we can’t form our own opinions, we have to follow stupid lecturers who are fucking bias and I spend half of time helping others do work!??!! Sure I might be naive, I used to help people do there work and when Id ask for help back I get sweet fuck all. Ive become so cynical now that all people do in life is fuck people over so they can get higher than you. What really pisses me off is when you work your arse off doing work and get a shitty grade while someone does it hours before hand in and get a better mark!? Wheres the justice in that??!?!! three more days and then Im free of this shit. I just hope I can graduate so I never have to go back again. Good luck to those who are in their first or 2nd years…try and find the simple things in life that make you happy…uni is NOT one of them

    Tuesday, May 20, 2008 at 17:52 #
  342. Matthew wrote::

    Right on! Earlier this semester university was really getting to me again, I was coming home worn out and spent, I was always tired and feeling really depressed. I would get irritated at silly little things and I was going nowhere. It was doing me no good so I thought long and hard and at first it seemed outlandish, but then and there while studying I decided to take this semester off. It has been one of the best decisions I have ever made in the last 3 years since being there, everything felt so much better. I could breathe again, the stress eased, I really felt like I was 21 and not some lethargic, hopeless drone. Since then I even lost weight, I was never overweight to begin with but now that I was feeling so much better, I was eating better, sleeping better and exercising regularly. It feels like colour has returned to my life. Well of course I got negative feedback from my

    Wednesday, May 21, 2008 at 10:53 #
  343. Unbelievable wrote::

    Matthew – This is exactly what has happened to me, I mean *exactly*! Except I have gone back to uni after my break expecting things to be better now that I have “colour” back in me: Only takes a few weeks and BAM! Back where I started. I can guarantee you will see no improvement or won’t see it in a different light when you return. Good luck man, and keep us posted.

    Wednesday, May 21, 2008 at 16:38 #
  344. FINISHED wrote::

    Have you ever considered that if you spent less time bitching in chat rooms that you would have a better time at university. I would like to agree with Brian and JJ4VR and say that i love university and would like to carry on to post grad. There is a correlation between getting laid and having fun. YOUR ALLL COCKS I AM GREAT.

    Friday, May 23, 2008 at 23:21 #
  345. Yeh.. wrote::

    How dare you, you peice of shit. Fuck off you smelly derranged cunt. You are just like the students depicted by everyone on here – arrogant, self-centred, obnoxious fuck-holes. Go play with yourself infront of your lecturers if you like uni that much. Enjoy post-grad :)

    Friday, May 23, 2008 at 23:53 #
  346. haha wrote::

    Well said ^^^^Yeh.., Another shithead who claims to love uni, yet typed in “I hate uni” to get here. Fucking imbecile. Doubt you’re even capable of post-grad studies you stupid fuckwit.

    Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 00:38 #
  347. FINISHED wrote::

    In response to haha, i’m on-line for a first in anatomical science from Bristol. So fuck you.

    Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 00:46 #
  348. Yeh wrote::

    So, you’ll know where your anus is located so you can shove your fat head through it. Enjoy post-grad.

    Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 00:49 #
  349. Brian wrote::

    FINISHED your a legend. a first in antomical science is amazing. Thanks for backing me in thinking the guys on here are just a waste of space. They cant even hack university, so how are they gonna hack the real world???????????

    Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 03:12 #
  350. haha wrote::

    Calling it first – ‘Finished’ and ‘Brian’ are the same person. What an utter cunt, you have to resort to making another persona up to praise yourself on a message board. “Finished your a legend” (it’s spelled “you’re” by the way idiot). Some life you’ve got there, why aren’t you out getting laid, Brian? Too busy checking on the ‘I hate uni’ message boards when you supposedly love uni. You fucking waste of oxygen.

    Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 03:33 #
  351. Yeh.. wrote::

    I’m fucking around on this forum because Uni is utter shit and have nothing better to do. If you’re living up life so much Brian and FINISHED (if you are indeed separate people) what’s your excuse? This blog is designed for people with serious FUCKED UP problems with Uni that you will never understand. It doesn’t mean we’re not going to cope with the real world. Uni is not the real world. There are loads of people on here who’ve left Uni and made great progress – turned out Uni was holding them back. Don’t post comments on here when you haven’t spent the time reading what people have to say or understanding how people feel. So I say this: Never reply on here again and we’ll respect you in thinking you have some form of life and let us live ours on here. That goes for duplicates. Yes, just because we hate Uni doesn’t mean we’re stupid. Now fuck the fucking fuck off, fuckers. Have a great day :)

    Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 07:00 #
  352. Brian wrote::

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

    Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 23:34 #
  353. katie wrote::

    Hey I am so glad I found this I hate uni so much all I do is study or work and feel like getting knewhere. Having a problrm with motivation doesnt help I find uni hard and sometimes it makes me feel like im useless. Repeating my second year well 2 modules and its still hard but i am trying I shouldnt worry what ppl think I knoW just glad 2 see im not alone

    Monday, May 26, 2008 at 08:12 #
  354. Vlad the Mad wrote::

    I too suffer the same university driven issues that the vast majority of this forum share (excluding of course our friend Brian/Finished). Whilst I am of the opinion that university is greatly beneficial, it is also a very wide world out there full of opportunity for education and advancement! (Incidentally, I happen to be in my final year at the highest ranked university in New Zealand). I sometimes (frequently) have to remind myself that just making it to a university is a fantastic achievement, and that I AM a success in what I choose to do. And so are you! Yet there is much to be said for alternatives to ‘the beast’ of tertiary education – electricians, plumbers/gasfitters, builders, the list goes on and on… However they never told us that at school, oh no, its all “go to university and you will be a success” and “you’ll be fine” (I HATE that saying, its not comforting at all!!) Dont turn your nose up at the idea of trade apprenticeships, for example currently NEWLY qualified builders in NZ can very easily earn a yearly wage of $60,000 – $100,000 for a 40-60 hour week! (and not taking your work home with you to). When you take into account that they do not have the dreaded student loan, dont live in shitty flats because they can afford not to, and actually have a life outside of their work (several of my friends are apprentices in a variety of trades), it all starts to really stack against that humdrum pit of stupid ass kids and useless lecturers. So to all that are in the ‘beast’ which threatens to drain your soul, we are all in the same damm leaky boat; some take the plunge off to try their luck elsewhere, a select few climb the mast to better only themselves, and the rest of us row the best we can to keep the whole thing afloat! And if you are thinking about what to do, both before coming and after leaving university, consider a trade, its much much better than working in the likely insurance call-centre!!! And to the fuckwit playing the very loud, same-song-again-16-bloody-times, I’m getting the taser out…. die mutha!

    Thursday, May 29, 2008 at 15:42 #
  355. Pete wrote::

    I have just finished my last exam. I am free. I am finally free after 5 years of hell. I was expecting myself to be really excited and happy. Actualy I’m so tired from Uni that I don’t have the strength right now. I hope I do though once the idea that I never have to take another lecture or exam ever again comes to me. Good luck everyone, it’s going to be tough, agonising and to the point of shear mental pain. But when it’s over, it’s OVER! :)

    Friday, May 30, 2008 at 02:01 #
  356. Alex wrote::

    Only 2 weeks left for me :) :) :) I can’t wait. Perhaps the most stressful 3 years of my life.

    Friday, May 30, 2008 at 06:04 #
  357. claire wrote::

    i chose to add a fourth year to my degree and write a thesis, a decision which has haunted me since feb and i can’t wait til it’s all over in 4 months. i have had little support from my supervisor who decided half way through the year that I was going to research a different topic and regularly misses meetings that she schedules. the first 3 years of my degree were ok, good even, but this year has left me very pissed off and bitter about the whole process. Fuck you, UTAS

    Monday, June 9, 2008 at 16:33 #
  358. Adam wrote::

    Uni is fuckin bent. People tell you that you have to go to uni otherwise you won’t get a good job. So pressure makes you go to university. You pay out shit loads of money and kill yourself trying to do well and there is no guarantee you will even succeed. I worked my ass off for these end of year exams and luck wasn’t on my side. I was either just not feeling in the right mood to do an exam or the questions didnt turn out right for me. And because of this i must retake the year and pay out another truck load of money. Fuck you uni, you can suck my dick. Is it really worth all this hassle? Can’t leave because i won’t get paid as much, can’t stay because i mite kill myself. You only get one life, make sure you enjoy every minute of it. Fuck the system

    Friday, June 13, 2008 at 04:13 #
  359. iltomee wrote::

    hell yeah!!! you guys are great!!! I love computers, i love programming and stuff, and i have a great job, where i can be creative and love what i do. At the same time, im stuck at university, and it feels like shit. No creativity AT ALL. I mean the whole concept is this: “sit down, and learn the book, after that tell me whats in the book”. Is this really the definition of intelligence? FUCK YOU!!!

    Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 18:27 #
  360. Crack Hour wrote::

    Uni is full of pretentious frat boys and up tight shallow bitches. Sometimes you just wish someone would drop a depleted uranium tipped GBU onto the campus, that would teach them all a lesson.

    Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 07:37 #
  361. Crack Hour wrote::

    Uni is full of pretentious frat boys and up tight shallow bitches. Sometimes you just wish someone would drop a depleted uranium tipped GBU onto the campus, that would teach them all a lesson.

    Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 07:37 #
  362. Sarah wrote::

    I hate uni, so today, I quit! I’ve been studying Nursing for one and a half years, and they have been the worst years of my life. Society tells us that we need to attend uni to suceed in life, so from the age of 15, I had to make the decisions of courses in high school that would allow me to continue into uni. At 15, how can anyone know what they want to do? I just did it for lack of anything better, but now I’m miserable. I dont like the person I have turned into because of uni, I cant see it getting better in the remainder of the course, and I cannot even see it becoming a career in any shape or form! My parents have been, generally, great, say they will support me etc, but are dissapointed that I dont know what I want to do instead. I’m still only 19, and to be honest, I would rather be a ‘drop out’ and be happy, than in uni and desperately miserable. Wish me luck!!!

    Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 09:46 #
  363. Scott wrote::

    I thought I was the only one, well this makes me a little happier. I hate uni so much :( the people are pretentious horrible snobs who look down their nose at anyone that wasn’t privately educated. “Your dad’s really a POSTMAN” – yes he is, so what? FUCK OFF! I am tired of being miserable all the time. I feel utterly trapped and powerless. Everyday I wake up hoping that the uni has exploded or flooded or burned down (any would be good lol) Anyone got any advice for me on what to do with this rubbish life I now lead??

    Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 06:28 #
  364. la haine wrote::

    I got a 2:1, not the best mark but yay anyway! It was worth the hell, stick with it everyone, you will feel very satisfied when you pass

    Wednesday, July 2, 2008 at 04:41 #
  365. Azzaelea wrote::

    I’m so glad I found this forum. I don’t know if any of you have this problem, but I come from a very academic family. My dad was a professor (retired). My sister is about to enter medical school at Columbia. Both have resumes a mile long. It’s like, if you opt not to go to Uni, you’re somehow less rounded of a person. If you hate Uni, something is fundamentally wrong with you. How many of you have parents and siblings like mine?

    Friday, July 11, 2008 at 16:26 #
  366. hev wrote::

    i have finally finished uni for good, thank god!! they were the worst years of my life, ive been so down and depressed the whole time but now im free to get on with my life! i got a 2:2 which im pleased with, considering the little effort i put in! at least i got something for the massive debt i’m now in!

    Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 05:44 #
  367. Fuck That Shit wrote::

    Fuck Uni, now I want to join the Army because being surrounded by pretentious frat boys and superficial bitches for the last 3 years has removed all the moral boundaries I had with the idea of killing. I don’t care anymore, I am sick of being depressed and wearing out because I just can’t fit in with all those inebriated douche bags, why would I want to anyway? I just hate the idea that I would be defending those idiots if I was in the military. I want to go out into the wild and learn all the stuff they teach you in the Army, I want that physical intimacy with nature. As for the killing part, who gives a fuck? FUCK UNI, FUCK UNI, FUCK UNI. Universities are just not what they used to be, I am sure once upon a time they were nice places to be where people would be united with a common appreciation for knowledge and the beauty of free thinking but maybe I am just being naive. I hope most of them end up with their degrees and I hope that leads them to a boring job with boring wives, huge debts, traffic jams, prozac by the kilograms, ungrateful spoiled, indifferent, ‘individual’ children, boring lives where football is the highlight, no time for hobbies, yes I can see it now it’s happening so fast and it could just as easily happen to me but god damn it I hope not. Fuck them all, Fuck them very much And also, last but not least: FUCK the pop culture like Sex and the City, OC, Lagoona Beach, MTV, 21, and all that other shit that promotes those fucking decadent values that is fucking everyone up and turning them into artificial, materialistic, indifferent, anti social scum while saying a huge ‘FUCK YOU’ to the sacred institution of the Family. FUCK THEM TO HELL.

    Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 09:17 #
  368. Natalie wrote::

    Uni is about as much fun as having sex with a broken glass bottle.

    Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 21:32 #
  369. Univeristy Bloows wrote::

    Yes like most other people who have previously posted I typed in “I hate University” onto Google and indeed I do hate this soul and wealth draining institution with a blood thirsty passion. I have just finished my first year of a Chemistry degree and it has been a truly horrible experience. 60 to 70% of the people who attend my course are shallow assholes who belong to the stereotypical exclusive cliques. Luckily I live quite close to my university which means I can walk there, albeit after an hours walk. Though from the horror stories I have heard about student accommodation that hours walk is definitely worth it. My lecturers are about as inspiring as watching paint dry for 6 hours on a Sunday afternoon. The reason for this is obvious. Their main job is not teaching it is conducting research at our expense which they would rather do than pass the torch to the next generation of degree holders. The one friend true friend I did make at this university and probably the best friend I ever made decided to leave the course because she could not stand it so off to another country she went. I have tried to make other friends but people usually look at me as if I just farted when I try to speak to them

    Friday, July 25, 2008 at 19:53 #
  370. Univeristy Bloows wrote::

    After reading all these posts I have come to the conclusion that people like us are collectively a voice unheard. This my friends needs to change. Most university lectures have Email addresses and what I prose is that from dummy email accounts (after which would be deleted) we email the influential lecturers and authority figures at our respective institutions with a link to this page so they can hear what we have to say and what we have to think but are unable to do so face to face with these people due to the stigma that no doubt would be associated with it. I would love to hear what others have to say on my proposed idea? Thank you all for listening

    Friday, July 25, 2008 at 20:22 #
  371. Oxford_Hater wrote::

    I studied at Oxford University between 1992 and 1996. Even today there’s no words which sum up my hatred of the damn place. I

    Tuesday, July 29, 2008 at 06:20 #
  372. Not gonna say lol wrote::

    I finished a month ago with a 2.1, my god i’ve fucking hated the past two yrs, yr1 was okay but it was when u moved out of halls. There are so many backstabbing bastards, i live at home now looking for a job. i’m so pleased i stayed really good friends with my mates at home, what a bunch of pretentious wankers ive had to live with. lol, maybe we should all go out for a drink and share our sorrows

    Thursday, August 14, 2008 at 06:29 #
  373. sio wrote::

    Has anyone actually left their course? I hear a lot of people ranting about uni but being hypocritical and continuing with it, despite their sheer unhappiness.

    Monday, August 18, 2008 at 19:49 #
  374. UWS HATER wrote::

    I was sitting there going stir crazy and decided to voice my frustration at my assignment by typing i hate uni in the search engine and boy am i glad to have found you all. I dont think i have ever had so much in common with so many people. I am in my third year of a Bachelor of Arts Degree…its has been the biggest load of shit i have ever experienced. I was going to go onto my masters of teaching…the last three years have been completely irrelevant!!!! But to answer the question above as to has anyone left..after 2 and half years i have dropped from 4 subjects to 2, close to quitting but do i really want to have wasted the last few years and hard earned dollars to give that place the satisfaction of me quitting??? mmm not yet anyway. I have so many similar experiences to you all, again 3 year still no friends, i cant even talk in tutorials i blush and have like anxiety attacks (which im seeking counselling for now) the assessments are just a bunch of bullshit, the staff are not helpful…honestly its the worst place. Its a status thing, oh i go to uni, or my daughter goes to uni. I went straight from school, and im starting to realise there is so much more to life. Driving to the dreaded institution i was stopped at lights and i was watching this guy on the side of the road collecting rubbish. I thought i wonder how happy he is? Why am i so unhappy? So much more to life. This venting has been unreal, not sure if anyone can see my email but feel free to contact me for a chat with someone that understands. thanks all

    Tuesday, August 19, 2008 at 14:18 #
  375. sio wrote::

    Hi UWS, I’d really like to chat to you about Uni Hell! but can’t see your email address?

    Wednesday, August 20, 2008 at 01:07 #
  376. Matt wrote::

    Hey Guys, let’s start a facebook group! My email is clawz_n_jawz@hotmail.com, I have posted here under the names of ‘Fuck that Shit’, ‘Matthew’and ‘Morning Crack’, if you can relate to me then add me and we’ll start a group.

    Wednesday, August 20, 2008 at 11:15 #
  377. UWS Hater wrote::

    Heya Sio, sorry just realised it didnt appear, my email is ultimate_chaos59@hotmail.com drop me an email whenever you need a chat. Hey Matt, Facebook group is an awsome idea,my email is up to, id be happy to help start something aswell. Thanks guys, you have no idea how much better i felt after i found you all yesterday!

    Wednesday, August 20, 2008 at 11:39 #
  378. sio wrote::

    Hey UWS. Thanks for your email, I will email you soon :) Facebook group sounds great! Let’s bring those uni’s down! hehe.

    Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 18:18 #
  379. CB wrote::

    The only thing that has kept me going at university is the 1 society I joined that has proved to be of any interest at all. And frankly, I don’t mind the uni, I hate the fucking course. http://www.smmp.salford.ac.uk/about/staff/profile.php?id=uali I hate this guy most of all. Some head of course, won’t even take calls in his office, actively avoids speaking to me… grah…

    Tuesday, August 26, 2008 at 10:13 #
  380. one wrote::

    Fuck, this is soo boring my lecturer is such a loser This is her http://www.deakin.edu.au/buslaw/infosys/members/profile.php?userid=lubat

    Wednesday, September 3, 2008 at 09:32 #
  381. Richie wrote::

    I typed ‘I hate University’ and got this page back in 2006! Wow it’s grown. Okay, here’s my shit: Year 1 05/06 – Started in 2005. What a fucking joke – the good natured, popular guy I had once been was reduced to a pseudo-alcoholic recluse. Stuck it and did my exams. Year 2 06/07 – ‘Deferred a year’. Went traveling on my own, none of this pre-booked tour bullshit. Amazing, very very at ease with my own company, which I wasn’t before. Year 3 – Joined back to continue Uni. Live with some great guys, tho’ all on different levels (quite reserved types). Yet, my CHARACTER STILL HASN’T RECOVERED from my first year of depressive bullshit. I’m more content, but BEFORE I Joined I was – Happy, thought I could add something to the world. Spoke my mind. Since: – Lack of enthusiasm, find myself conforming (what the fuck?!) and I’ve got SHYER WITH AGE. Anyone else? Meh, because of travelling I now have the ability to go to a pub on my own, due to lack of true mates. Infact, i’d say I only ever had 2, 1 has since graduated compared to home. Rant over. Main focus: Uni is a fucking money-making institution which doesn’t promote diversity at all, it’s a breeding ground for the arrogant (not all though). So, suck my fat dick Uni. No doubt you’ll be having the last laugh when i’m diagnosed with liver and lung disease as a result of self-medication – you destroyed my dreams.

    Monday, September 8, 2008 at 22:54 #
  382. Richie wrote::

    I think there’s a definite relationship with our anger and our expectations of University. Perhaps we were just all to enthusiastic? I’ve learn that I can be happier just by living in the city, I spend as little time there as I feel no association with the majority of people there. Yes i’ve been let down, I imagine this will have a huge knock-on effect for the rest of my life, but I suppose it’s just life.

    Monday, September 8, 2008 at 23:18 #
  383. opus wrote::

    I used to go to massey in New Zealand. It’s a shithole full of stuck up sluts and their shitless rugbyhead boyfriends. The lecturers are arrogant bastards and I hated it.

    Tuesday, September 9, 2008 at 15:36 #
  384. UWS Hater wrote::

    Hey all, I just like to reply to your comment Ritchie. I was reading over my high school reports, you know what they all say that i always contribute to class discussion. In my three years at uni i havent said boo. So i agree i to have got shyer with age. What shits me more than anything is im to scared to express my opinion. Everytime i bring myself to say something i stop myself because of what everyone else will think. I blush right..i had a teacher for a whole semester pay out on my personal insecurity. Tutorial discussion is apart of my assessment mark right, this is what she would say “everyone look away or close your eyes you will make her blush but today she needs to introduce the reading” Bitch who is she to do that!!!! Anyway i agree with you Ritchie!!! Take Care all.

    Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 13:32 #
  385. Richie wrote::

    To UWS Hater – Exactly the same here! Back in high school I was a confident guy who always spoke up, about my own opinion or in defense of others. Hell even got elected class representative. Now I don’t. What’s worse is that the habit of keeping my thoughts in is affecting every other aspect of my life. I.e Sometimes around my frickin friends I don’t say what I feel. I’m beginning to become more concious and it’s irritating. Infact I rarely ever say my opinion these days, it feels like it’s wrong for some reason. I’d love to know why this is? Your tutor sounds like an arse, it’s pathetic that a grown educated adult should act that way. I have a similar thing with one of my old course leaders. For some reason, I always tell myself I’ll go into the next seminar with a “i don’t give a fuck attitude” but never do. It’s always, “next time”. Thanks for the reply!

    Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 21:24 #
  386. Clayton wrote::

    I’m a week into a Canadian university and I hate it. My classes are full of idiots, apparently don’t exist, and this morning I got locked out of the one class I enjoy. To top it off: I can’t find anyone in Administration to help me and the “dining hall” never has any food when I go to eat. Fuck you. I’m going back West where there aren’t any fucking preps (who’ll succeed in life because of their parents connections regardless) railing against the “uneducated”. Take your pseudo-intellectualism and shove it up your ass you worthless shits. This was my life goal and its all over now. Fuck it.

    Friday, September 12, 2008 at 23:10 #
  387. a wrote::

    i have to go back for my second year tomorrow. kill me. kill me now.

    Saturday, September 13, 2008 at 22:33 #
  388. ellie wrote::

    agh UWS hater I feel exactly the same way. I was always a little bit shy but I could cover it up and at school no one even noticed but now that I’m at uni I have virtually no confidence socially and academically. I sit in tut’s, which are marked and compulsory, and I barely say a word unless I’m asked. I’m in my second sem of first year and managed to get trhough first sem with good grades and feeling ok about myself but now I can’t stand it. I’ve missed out on so many tut’s and classes because I see no reason for being there. I really wanted to drop out at the beginning of this semester but my family told me to “just get trough it” but why do I have to get trhough it? Why can’t I do something I enjoy instead of wasting time and money feeling absolutely crap about myself. I thought I was so alone in feeling this so finally I can rant to people who feel the same. It just seems that everyone else is enjoying it and doing fine and I just freak out. I have a massive essay due tommorow and I’ve almost finished but I know it’s not my best. I used to be so passionate about doing my work at high school and put in alot of effort but now I just wanna get it done and pass it. I wdon’t even keep in contact with people from high school or elsewhere much anymore because I’ve lost all my confidence. I know it’s no ones fault but mine but I just don’t fit in. I hate it, I worked so hard to get here and now I can’t see the point!!

    Sunday, September 14, 2008 at 11:03 #
  389. Andrew E wrote::

    Hi ppl, I have just finished filling in my withdrawal form and I honestly, eventhough I hated uni I had mixed emotions. I feel like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders. I did feel a little dissapointed i myself but then i remembered how much i hate uni! I have found a training acadamy near my home. It has cost me two grand to get the course i wanted. I know this sounds like alot but its nothing compared to uni fees. Im going to be training for around 4-6 weeks to become a fully qualified domestic electrician.Then I will work to get the money together to become a fully qualified electrician earning uround 45 grand a year working for someone! I always wanted to be a spark n not got 2 crappy uni but if i didnt i wouldnt have meet my girlfriend and mates; and wouldnt have the great memories. I know it is hard for ppl to make friends especially if their not into the drinking and clubbing scene. My advice would be to try to go to the student bar in the day time with someone you know from your course. This way you could try and make friends with ppl they know. If you really want to leave just do it. I thought my dad was going to kill me but he said he would support me in anyway he can just so long as i was happy. and said get a trade cos your earn more than most and will always have a job. Im glad ive got out cos a bit of paper saying your good enough cant get you ready for the real world. Peace

    Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 00:17 #
  390. Jeremy Smith wrote::

    I don’t know if my university experience is different from you guys because of your univercity, your course or culture but I have found people at university quite supportive. I am doing a bacofsci in mining at curtin uni in western australia and people are just so friendly and helpful here. I join this course in its second year (got exsemption) and even though I started off being an outsider I was quickly inclued by being friendly but not weak or submissive because people take advantage of that. As for the work it is shit and I do thing at the last minute and i cram but those thing work for me i am passing everything (though i will never be an honours student). And remember alcohol is social lubricant so buy a round.

    Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 21:47 #
  391. Richie wrote::

    I AM into drinking and clubbing. It’s just that I have very little in common with the people i’ve met at University. I’ve always been the leader so I’m not adept in changing my interests to suit others. For example, I’m meeting 21 year olds that still act immature/shelltered i.e being worried about what parents think, (dad won’t let me get a job etc etc). I’m simply not middle-class in my ethic. For the first time I’m having to force myself to PRETEND TO LIKE something, instead of naturally enjoying it. I’m going to complete the course, but I can’t help feeling that I have near enough wasted 3 precious years of my youth on a piece of paper I could create in a day on Adobe Photoshop! *sigh* I’m not even young…22 now and i’m in the same boat as I was when I was 18! Wears me down it really does….what a pitiful joke to rope people into getting into debt. A big “Fuck you” middle class institution is all I can say! However I DO LOVE living in a city – which is it’s saving grace.

    Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 23:03 #
  392. Tom wrote::

    I recently started university in Wales. I am from London and have lived there all my life. I though I would be able to cope without my family, friends, and my wonderful city. As soon as I spend my first few days in my halls I knew it wasn’t the place for me, the people were small kids who drunk every night. Don’t get me wrong I love going out but not every single night, also after going to a few of the local clubs i found they were not what im used to in London. Anyway I decided after just my first month to drop out and go home. My parents weren’t happy but I just couldn’t stand being away from my home any longer. At the moment I am applying to go to uni next year through UCAS, but this time I will staying at home and going to a uni in London, back with my friends and family, and where I feel I belong. I am also applying for a different course this time around as I made a mistake last time. Like many people here I was so unhappy and the day my parents picked me up to go home was one of the best days of my life. Im currently looking for a job in what has now become my unscheduled “gap year”. I would like to say to anyone thats not happy at uni that just because you give up does not make you a failure. Just keep in your minds that we only live once, and we should all be happy and not struggle through uni if we hate it. You can be whatever you want to be regardless of a degree or not. God bless you all and good luck for the future. Knowing that im not the only one nice to know. Peace.

    Tuesday, September 23, 2008 at 22:22 #
  393. iHATE uni wrote::

    Ive only been in uni for 2 years now, and its fuckin hell!….sometimes i think university might get u a degree but for me its about money,what the point of a degree if it makes u earn jack shit….. i am a taxi driver and i earn a good

    Wednesday, September 24, 2008 at 07:05 #
  394. Ben Hughes wrote::

    Im 22 and jst started university in Manchester. When I finished my A levels I went to work for a few year but I always look at university as an exciting, social and great thing to do. However now im here I absolutely hate it!!!!! Its not as exciting or friendly as I thought. In fact ,my freshers weeks was really shit and I hated it. It seems everyone has so much fun but me. But dont get me wrong….. I still feel university is a good thing to do. Im just feeling that I made a poor choice of university and have been unlucky enough to be stuck in a bad flatt with no life. Because im a bit older than everyone else though I feel I would be a failure and a loser to drp out as I dont have the time to waste like the rest of the 1st years. Im sooo confused.

    Monday, September 29, 2008 at 22:07 #
  395. leila wrote::

    Oh shit. I just started uni in London and think it’s a fucking pointless venture. Boring lectures, boring people. But i’m all working class and stuff so my family will probably die if i ever dropped out. Does it get better or is it bollocks from beginning to end?

    Tuesday, September 30, 2008 at 01:48 #
  396. Kate wrote::

    Its so the goverment can say they have improved schools as more people go into higher education than before. Its so colleges can make lots of money and its so loan company’s can make a profit. Its all a massive con.

    Tuesday, September 30, 2008 at 02:35 #
  397. maria wrote::

    mmm i HATE IT.. i JUST CANT STAND ANYTHING.. i mean the teachers.. the people.. the boring lectures.. for gods sake i am in design.!!!! we should be creating things.. not sitting in stupid classes listening to pointless discussions.. and it scares the hell out of me, bc i feel i am wasting my life.. I am 21!!! and i JUST FEEL sooo unhappy!!!! they only time that i feel good about my life, is when i AM AT HOME.. I already went to community college.. and finished my diploma.. and I LOVED IT.. everything the people, the course, the teachers.. amazing… but for some stupid reason I decided to go to uni and get my degree in design.. why.. bc I believed all the b.s about uni.. .

    Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 23:50 #
  398. Jonny Tight Lips wrote::

    I’m so bored and lonely at the moment. Can’t find anyone on my coridoor that I can relate to. They all seem to have done 10 years worth of bonding in no time, already reminiscing about the fond memories they’ve had together. They don’t appear to have a sense of humour that extends beyond creative use of curse words, so if I crack a joke I just get blank stares. Freshers’ week sucked, all clubbing with strangers which is absolutely pointless because you can’t meet friends this way. Seems like a product of unimaginative planning and a money making scheme by the uni. I’ve joined clubs and societies as well but can’t seem to connect with anyone there either. I do the activities set out by the societies but I didn’t need to come to uni to do that. Also starting to have doubts about my course as to whether it will really make a difference to my career path after 3 years, if not I don’t enjoy it enough for it to be worthwhile. I hope it get better, but if I am still in this position by Christmas I can’t see how it would improve or how I could cope with 3 years of the same. Really disappointed in uni so far.

    Friday, October 3, 2008 at 10:58 #
  399. neversad wrote::

    before i start this, dont get me wrong, i have ALWAYS been a sociable person with more friends than time. and there have been very few times in my life where ive felt low or sad for longer than a day. but then i came to uni…. i think the problem starts with my flatmates. i have been put in the party flat. dont get me wrong, i do like going out, but maybe once a week? these guys go out every night and come in at 3 and slam the doors and talk and wake me up…so now im so tired so i still havent a good nights sleep since ive been here.. so taht doesnt help! i also have boyfriend back home that i miss like hell. he is the love of my life weve been togther for nearly 3 years and its been harder than ever imagined. i thought id be able to dea with it, even consider ending it if it wasnt working but all that i learnt from being away from him is tht hes the one for me. so im jsut focusing on the weekend next week i can go home, which so isnt healthy. people keep telling me ill meet people on ym course and omg i hope i do! i also hope my housemates run out of money so they cannot go clubbing every day of the week. im sticking with til christmas but if i still feel like this by then, its bye bye uni…

    Friday, October 3, 2008 at 23:06 #
  400. a wrote::

    the work load has started, i’ve been ill the past week and i am dreading catching up and attempting to begin all these essays :S ugh i haaaate this

    Monday, October 6, 2008 at 03:33 #
  401. Rach wrote::

    At this precise moment in time i am trying to decide whether to go to a uni lecture (6pm til 9pm-WHAT THE F*CK!?!) or to go to a meeting at work.. Not very hard though..i love work and passionatly hate uni! The only thing thats tempting me to go uni is getting a Subway on the way! It just pisses me off that if i leave i will be considered socially retarded! If someone offered me a decent full time post at my current job i wouldn’t thin twice about uni. It is full of dickheads! The lecturers and students! I’m still living at home thank god..or i think i would hate it even more! I totally agree with you all..uni is a waste of time & money! It stops my social life,me making money cus of the shit hours they give you for lectures! I think i might just go on the dole, after all i can’t afford the dentist or doctors at the moment becuz students have to pay..as if paying

    Monday, October 6, 2008 at 23:47 #
  402. Elle wrote::

    I hate uni so much that it’s destroying me. The lecturers just expect so much. I study literature and for each course I have to read approximatly one and a half novels a week. I’m doing two classes now so that’s 3 novels per week as well as essays, presentations, exams- impossible unless you live with your mum, have your washing and cooking done for you and you have no friends or job. I just don’t understand why they expect so much. Surely they’re aware that virtually no one can read that much as well as complete essays and presentations and live. It’s as if the lecturers are trying to hurt us, leave us damaged, by setting virtually impossible tasks. It’s just so pointless. I want to leave so much but I doubt I’ll ever get a job I can live with without a degree. When will it end. I feel so trapped and powerless.I feel like I’m being crushed.

    Wednesday, October 8, 2008 at 04:48 #
  403. sonofthedestroyer wrote::

    Wow! Amazing place. Even more comments than the ‘University sucks’ blog on Warwick which has now closed comments i think. Well i dropped out of uni in 2007. I dedicated the free time to researching government conspiracies etc and learnt more in that free year than i ever did at any point in my life. But incessant nagging from my family and extended family has forced me back to university to complete my degree. The very first day back and the aura was disgusting. I wanted to drop out again the very next day. I have decided that i will just continue to do my own things and if i fail the year, then fine, ill drop out again, leave home and find my own way somehow. Important thing i learnt when i returned to university was: It wasnt me who was not focused or happy, the system really is a bitch. I advice NOBODY to go to university. At least prostitutes get money to sell their bodies. In uni we sell our soul and lose our money also

    Sunday, October 12, 2008 at 00:57 #
  404. Jackinthe box wrote::

    Hey well if uni is so bad then i’m glad im not going lol(well i might be soon but only if education hasn’t eaten me alive).Lets face it once we leave school everything is shit and when i mean everything i mean ‘education’.I’m at college and nothing ever exciting happens and i have to put up with 2 hour lunch breaks where i have nothing to do and nowhere to go.I hate education right now its shit

    Monday, October 13, 2008 at 04:12 #
  405. Jack wrote::

    Wow this really is an amazing forum! All this time I thought I was the only lonely fucker out there banging his damn head against the wall at the very thought of university. For me university was always something that just had to be done, not because I wanted to, but unfortunately we now live in a society where it is considered odd if one does not attend university. Despite all my efforts (arranging to meet with people in prominent positions in business) I decided that I would have to go, if I ever wanted to get a job worth more than 30k a year that is. I am at university now and I hate it! I am not stupid; I got good A-level results and now attend a respectable University. What I hate is the way in this country (UK) as soon as you tell anybody that

    Monday, October 13, 2008 at 07:15 #
  406. Mikey wrote::

    I feel the same about University. You have to go through this bullshit just to be accepted by society. The society has made everybody think that University has become a necessity in life. Thats when they start taking advantages of us. IN ADDITION the lectures don’t even teach properly. Why the fuck should i pay 3 grand just to tech myself LOLL. This is to all the others out there that feels the same way. Don’t let the University break you. Have the strenght to carry on. WISH ALL OF YOU THE BEST. peace out

    Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 01:58 #
  407. matt wrote::

    University is just a shallow pool of mediocrity in this day and age. It’s all about quantity, never quality despite the institution’s eager, rhetorical bullshit to the contrary. Somehow as a society we’ve gotten it in your heads that if you attend a university for 3 or 4 years, waste your time, learn absolutely nothing, appreciate nothing deep, just get drunk and obnoxiously narcissistic then somehow when you’re done and get some magic piece of paper you have completed some sacred rite of passage that makes you a fulfilled and complete human being. If not, then you are worse than scum. It’s this attitude which universities embrace and preach at every opportunity (that’s when they’re not too caught up bragging about themselves). What is the point though? Just for some piece of paper, because we naively think that it’s exclusively the result that matters, not the procedure, not the path of learning and thinking? Just a very expensive piece of paper with Bachelor of Bullshits (Passing degree) written on it. Universities are inundated with people who really don’t want to be there, and why should they? Unfortunately people are forced to be there, it’s social pressure, it’s wasting the young years of our lives. There are so many fulfilling, fun, challenging, thrills out there that don’t require a university education (e.g. Navy SEALs), but I don’t have the guts to diverge from the herd, doing meaningful and fun things with my body and life is just a distant fantasy. Keep active, eat well, feel well, go above and beyond and finish that bitch off!

    Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 14:26 #
  408. jonathan wrote::

    I hate university and the d